2┃build-planning

[still rock]

Ah, yeah most likely. F

[zinc cipher]

i thought More/Less is the same

[north talon]

Just gotta wait for more I guess. Quality in general seems VERY powerful though looking at skills

[trim forge]

More and less are multiplicative amounts

[quaint wasp]

You will have to test it.

Sunder will heavy stun with crushing blow, breaking the armor, but sunder probably wont consume that break armor in that same hit b/c the target wasnt broken armor when sunder initially hit.

So it's a matter of in what order are these things calculated in the engine, info we don't have so gotta test it.

[rapid star]

I've been trying to find a decent passive tree and made This monk invoker passive tree please make sure to check the url before clicking! stay safe people
Any thoughts? I do use mostly lightning skills, but the extra could damage nodes (and the weapon set passives i'll be making) help with cc

[next monolith]

does 2 handed nodes buff grenade damage?

[errant niche]

is there any source of maximum block chance?

[static plinth]

The Anvil amulet

[still rock]

Do you have any other sources of more/increased/decreased/less Area from passive tree?

[static plinth]

+3% to 5%

[feral halo]

any ignite titans in chat? let's say I have leech to hp from physical damage but i have activated the node fire avatar which converts all damage to fire... will I be leeching any life from the physical in any case?

[zinc cipher]

no, none. im pretty confused

[errant niche]

ty

[zinc cipher]

lemme show ya

[static plinth]

I also think there's a smidge on the tree

[thin basin]

anyone played around with electrocute? how is it?

[zinc cipher]

see?

[feral halo]

any ignite titans in chat? let's say I have leech to hp from physical damage but i have activated the node fire avatar which converts all damage to fire... will I be leeching any life from the physical in any case?

[dusky rivet]

Question regarding the 'new' ignite.

I know penetration still doesn't affect ignite damage - but from what I understand of the ailment threshold, the hit will determine the chance to ignite.

Therefore does penetration help in improving chance to ignite?

[languid kestrel]

ok so lightning arrow doesnt chain AT ALL right? because why is the game recommending chain as a support then?

[still rock]

AoE mostly affects the width of Sunder in PoE1, can you use the ability to see the width differences? The length is affected as well but by a smaller margin for whatever reason

[zinc cipher]

Ah i see, thank you!

[quaint wasp]

there are 1000s of videos on youtube. but in general you get enough skill gems to try everything, can do w/e with passives, most paths are good enough.

The biggest factor of power by FAR is gear. So if u wanna research anything I'd look into gearing, how to get gear, crafting, vendor, etc.

[zinc cipher]

yh the lenght increase is super tiny

[still rock]

I think there is a dampening on length increase vs length decrease to keep it "Melee" feel but the width should technically go up if it interacts with area % the same as PoE1

[zinc cipher]

the width dont change much either, but the shockwaves are a bit bigger

[hoary plover]

hey would you mind sharing your passive tree for this?

[still rock]

Well that's a plus

I think you're probably better off taking the dmg increase

Unless the less aoe is too much for the total mob clear

[zinc cipher]

Dude i was jus reading absolutely everything on sunder and look what i stumbled on!

[zinc cipher]

!!!!

thats why it wasnt working

they thought about the broken combos

[north talon]

Payoffs can never do the thing they payoff, regardless of the source

[zinc cipher]

was worth a shot i guess

[still rock]

They've been through this before a handful of times in similar situations

[north talon]

Now there are psuedo payoff effects though you can use like armor explosion which I highly recommend for pack clearing with armor break

[still rock]

You used to be able to affect the same mob with multiple hits from the same skill so people would place ice frost wall behind a boss and spam explosive shot into it

Like

5 years ago at the least

[oblique adder]

Are there any chaos witch builds?

[zinc cipher]

yhhh i been thinkin of switchin to 15% phys dmg as armor break + armour explosion

[still rock]

Armor explosions sounds nuts

Thematically lol

[north talon]

I am playing warbringer with armor break stuff and rolling slam + armor explosion is my main clear. It feels VERY good, so much fun and so many explosions

[still rock]

Mf get hit so hard his armor explodes

[zinc cipher]

i wouldve went warbringer too in hindspec but i locked in Titan

[vagrant wedge]

Any tips on how to increase spirit? Trying to run the archmage gem

[quaint wasp]

it's called reactive armor 🤓

😆

[twin coral]

any ideas on how to break shockburst rounds from mercenary

[north talon]

I started Titan, realised I didn't actually like Titan very much and rerolled a warbringer... REALLY wish we could just repec ascendcies though instead of wasting hours but oh well

[cerulean girder]

Break?

[twin coral]

make it good i suppose

what skill should i combo with it

turns out lightning rod doesnt work with it, only galvanic shards

[still rock]

@static plinth Can you dm or thread me your tree? I'm mostly just curious since we're like one of 5 people playing edc

[zinc cipher]

true! I felt the same until i got Hulking Form. Feels so great now, running around with a 2h mace + shield at the same time. Really feel like a Titan

[north talon]

I am doing 2 hander + shield on my warbringer, though keeping up with the requirments is a challenge. My weapon is currently 20 levels out of date, but I still kill bosses in like 2 super charged slams so it isn't a huge issue

[vivid dome]

as a merc, is iron reflexes worth it?

[pale iron]

Finished uploading my vid deep diving into hexblast and everything surrounding it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8Kv5aYlhT8 my TL;DR is that it can carry you though act3 and cruel very well way into maps and has insane potential later on with blood mage's crit notable. Blood mage itself I also think is bad early, but should be amazing in late game.

[zinc cipher]

yhhhh was havin that issue till i picked hulking form, i can use uptodate 2handers. But i guess maybe in the late late game u can use uptodate too if u get a bunch of strenght on your gear

[north talon]

I looked at requirements, it is going to be.., intresting to get it. Realisticly I am going to need a reduced attribute requirements weapon roll to scale up the highest bases I think

[arctic crypt]

um help

[zinc cipher]

btw your build wouldnt work with sunder im guessing? since it cant break armour, even with stuff that give it armour break

[north talon]

It would not work with sunder as the trigger, should work as a payoff but I am not using it. I am finding just keeping things in negative armor is very strong itself and I don't really NEED an armor break payoff

But yeah I am in Act 2 Cruel and still using this lol. I need to update but getting a workable weapon is a bit of a struggle

[feral halo]

any ignite titans in chat? let's say I have leech to hp from physical damage but i have activated the node fire avatar which converts all damage to fire... will I be leeching any life from the physical in any case?

[zinc cipher]

only reason why id wanna use it is for rares and bosses, but i think its best to jus build another skill up for it like perfect stricke and that big slam u can charge up

[ashen copper]

can anyone explain to me how weapon damage gets calculated into a skill? specifically, i'm using an "attack" skill that uses 150% of my "attack damage", and also converts 60% of physical damage into lightning damage. how does the physical damage value of my weapon, along with other damage values such as lightning or fire damage, work with this skill?

[mystic shoal]

does ranger scale with dex or int?

[cosmic jackal]

Which ascendancy for ranger?

[zinc cipher]

how on earth did u get the 40% phys increase dmg? (in white)

[north talon]

Iron Runes

[zinc cipher]

my iron rune only gives 20%

[pulsar garden]

What’s the best ammunition for mobs?

[north talon]

You can put 2 runes into a 2 hander

[zinc cipher]

...

RIGHT!

[zinc cipher]

Thanks!

[north talon]

Good physical mod, the other mods are... less impresive. Slam some exalts and pray

[thick pagoda]

I have rationalized out my issue.

So the meta skills have two components, the trigger and the spell.

I had the spell set to only work with weapon set 1, which gives the not enough spirit warning instead. Elemental Invocation was working properly cause its a manual cast to then trigger the spell. Where as Cast on Ignite and Cast on Freeze are automatic triggers.

So the only bug is that it says not enough spirit rather than the actual issue.

[zinc cipher]

yeahhh i feel the same, but for now this is one shotting rares with perfect strike and one shotting packs with sunder. I suspect im gonna gonna have a new juicy base to play with in a couple levels

[warm delta]

Can someone explain why "withered effect" doesnt seem to affect the "withering presence" skill?

[pulsar garden]

Do times not work on uniques? Put 2 physical dmg 20% on my unique xbow but doesn’t show anywhere…

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher do you do any special set up for sunder? Or just run around and press it? Prolly some warcry's here and there?

[north talon]

Keeping up with strength has been an interesting thing. But I still kill things so it is working I suppose. When I get my 3rd Acendacy I should hit 75% block immediatly though which is exciting.

[worldly flame]

How much does cold resistance this item has? 37 or 25 total?

[plain osprey]

could someone explain why i have negative resistances...

[zinc cipher]

nah no warcry or anything like that. I slap heavy swing + Brutality on it which give 70% increased dmg

[reef viper]

each acts = -10% res

[zinc cipher]

without heavy swing + brutality

[plain osprey]

oh that's fucked

[zinc cipher]

with

[mystic shoal]

ranger electric bow- does it scale with dex or int?

[cosmic jackal]

You can’t change ascendancy right? This seems like a major choice

[zinc cipher]

u could add concentrated effect to and it absolutely smashed,but i like the extra aoe

[wild crane]

As the game goes on, it's meant to be harder and so at some point your resistances start dropping so you're incentivized to start building resistances

[cosmic jackal]

Every act reduces your resistances. It says it at the bottom of the screen when you start

[warm delta]

Implicit vs explicit modifiers. Theyre additive AFAIK, so +37% to your cold resistance
If your cold resistance is 100, you get 137.

[north talon]

Conc Effect always make me sad, it is REALLY good but big circle give me happy brain chemicals

[plain osprey]

idk why but ever since i reached utzaal i just die to everything again

[wild crane]

Correct.

[plain osprey]

they put poison on me and i just lose 80% hp

[worldly flame]

@warm delta ty

[cosmic jackal]

I’m stuck between pathfinder or deadeye. It sucks because builds can just get nerfed

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher so you literally only need to use sunder on packs? Then on big mobs/bosses you use war cry+perfect strike? Prob with fire infusion and the smaller zone gem?

[zinc cipher]

but i do plan to use Aftershocks with it (u can get up to 70ish% chance for aftershock with passive and support)

[hasty vault]

No runes for casting weapons?

[warm delta]

Can someone explain why "withered effect" doesnt seem to affect the "withering presence" skill?

[feral halo]

any ignite titans in chat? let's say I have leech to hp from physical damage but i have activated the node fire avatar which converts all damage to fire... will I be leeching any life from the physical in any case?

[marsh elm]

Do we know what %damage is = to a spell level? Like is it better to take a %50 spell damage buff or a +2 to all spells?

[zinc cipher]

naaah no warcry haha Sunder Strike on its own + window of opportunity + fire infusion + smaller zone and more dmg one shots

if u can time the perfect strike

[compact wren]

has anyone found a unique use of chronomancer yet? i fee like all the builds are just a budget version of something else

[zinc cipher]

but most of the time i just sunder them, if they in a pack, the shockwaves one shot the rare too even with sunder

same lvl as me

i use perfect strike for the big boys, the bosses

[hasty nexus]

I have not tried to test that but my reading comprehension would make me think no there's not leech anymore tbh

[loud summit]

@feral halo pretty sure leech doesn’t work with converted damage.

@zinc cipher I really look forward to sunder so I can use 1 skill for clear. Leveling at like 18ish right now and damn. I have to use heavy strike + boneshatter and some other crap lol

[hasty nexus]

guess they don't want lifesteal sorcs running around lol

[trim nexus]

about to switch from merc to monk. what are the main stats i should be looking for on weapons and gear?

[wild crane]

I'd buy this. Generally item level means better rolled stats. Seeing as how it's a gold purchase as well, it's a cheap investment.

[void barn]

Whats the best skills to run with blood witch right now

[zinc cipher]

tbh i was using rolling slam + bone shatter (clears packs easily) and perfect strike for single target and it went really fine. Its when i decided to stop tryna make some combo with cries and stuff and just stacked damage on damage that i really started breezin thru the game

[hasty nexus]

something about rolling slam never felt right to me, but even as an ignite war I love using boneshatter, so crunchy

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher which as we know isn’t really an option until you get sunder haha. Cause the other skills suck unless you combo them

[zinc cipher]

u better be ready to come up with soem attack speed when u get sunder , cos at the start, its slow as hell

[loud summit]

Hah

Fair enough I’ll figure attack speed out

[graceful dirge]

Anyone got a strictly melee build for monk ?

[zinc cipher]

btw does anyone know if More Area of Effect DMG applies to the strike itself?

the dps flies up when i socket it

i think it does?

[severe maple]

Anyone have a turret build going for mercenary?

[loud summit]

I want to go big boy ignite titan. But I’m not sure what skill I would use for clearing. Obviously hammer of the gods or perfect strike would be best for single target.

[still rock]

Aaaaaah, word. Interesting that it saves that value of which weapon set to use when you socket it inside the meta gem

Sounds unintended tbh

So I'd still report that function

[reef viper]

sunder kinda sucks if you dont combo on bosses or rares

[zinc cipher]

but the wave of fire is the strike itself when u release at the right time

[reef viper]

but thats only if you want the 100% crit chance

[loud summit]

Yeah I don’t wanna sunder bosses at all. Hammer of gods or perfect strike is my end goal single target plan with ignite

[feral halo]

would this buff my damage as an Ignite Titan? any titans in chat?

[loud summit]

Just need to figure out clearing skill

[mossy tulip]

Question, Is there a way to reset your characters skill gems to expirament with other builds?

[zinc cipher]

@loud summit dude u cooked

u mentioned

[twin coral]

best shockburst rounds support gems?

[zinc cipher]

this skill with perfect strike

look how much dmg it goes up to

[thick pagoda]

yep, already posted it https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3611260

[feral halo]

would this buff my ignite damage any titans in chat?

[spring jackal]

is a one handed weapon big damage loss for warrior?

[rugged kestrel]

Orb of storms would proc and fire bolts off of tempest flurry right? I can’t tell if/when it is, would it be each hit of the combo, finisher, or each ‘cast’?

[feral halo]

yes

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher holy crap. I gotta socket conc with my perfect strike then instead of fire infusion.

[zinc cipher]

use both!

[loud summit]

Well atm I only have 2 socket

[spring jackal]

damn I wanted to use block

[loud summit]

Spaces

[reef viper]

not rly, since you get more attack speed

kinda depends on what skill

[zinc cipher]

oh yeah. use the Window of opportunity with either fire inf or conc until u can all 3

[spring jackal]

intresting

[cedar charm]

When do lvl 5 skill gems start dropping?

[reef viper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315185365958660096/1315855527703482368/2024-12-10_00-26-49.mp4?ex=6758ed75&is=67579bf5&hm=7209f3eedc22c4641a1939b5f5fe762ac600ea11de84a3ea6f014deaa37a4714& i like to 2 hand cause i like to do this on bosses

[twin coral]

for a lightning mercenary build is it better to go 40% phys damage or 2-40 lightning damage enchantment? since their lightning skills scale off of phys

[spring jackal]

I suppose it would be good with supercharged slam right?

[reef viper]

no

[spring jackal]

why

[reef viper]

one handed is combo oriented

mostly

[spring jackal]

oh

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher did u build for ignite at all in perfect strike in passive tree? Or just pure phys damage?

[spring jackal]

I'll stick with two hand then

[feral halo]

would this buff my ignite damage any titans in chat?

[zinc cipher]

pure phys, because

but u can go into ignite too if u want

i rather just CHUNK them in one hit

[loud summit]

What converts 80%

[halcyon shale]

hey guys, do multiple sources of ignite stack? like if i flame wall and incinerate, will the enemy have 2 instances of ignite on it?

[zinc cipher]

thats if u perfect strike

the second tab is where u see info on the perfect strike (if u time i right)

so that + this

does tons of dmg without needing to invest into anything fire

[versed tundra]

Does increased minion damage affect the explosion or ignite caused by minion instability?

[zinc cipher]

guess itll do even more dmg if u invest fire

but then id have to find a way to make sunder work with fire too and i cba for that

[north talon]

You can opt into scaling the ignite as well, but I have not done the math on what the optimal scaling path is. Scaling ignite though shouldn't be terrible at the least though

[loud summit]

@zinc cipher would be cool tho if sunder was igniting everything all the time? Maybe fire avatar?

[zinc cipher]

up to u brother, as long as u make sure all the interactions work, u can make some really strong builds

[loud summit]

Yeah. I would hate to loose all phys leech tho

[zinc cipher]

I am just super happy rn that i have a build that does crazy aoe, crazy single target, is super mobile and has super high defensives

[loud summit]

I love having life leech

[twin coral]

how do we calculate an actual items dps on the trade site? does not include magic damage

[zinc cipher]

i did too until i found out about life regen

[loud summit]

Haha

How high is ur life regen per sec?

[zinc cipher]

AH! btw prepare a way to fix mana issues, sunder eats mana

[zinc cipher]

i havent started investing in it yet, but rn my life is at 1305 so 1% is 13 a second, i can get a ton, way over 15% once i start investing some

[loud summit]

Ah so u kinda need phys mana leech for sunder? Sounds like full fire ignite sunder might not work for mana probs

[pseudo condor]

Despair + Decaying Hex w/ Contagion is amazing

[zinc cipher]

I would use Life instead of Mana for skills, but having useless mana flasks feels bad so instead i go this route

[loud summit]

Ah

[zinc cipher]

makes the skill much cheaper. and my life regen is more than enough to keep up

[loud summit]

Yeah I think I might try to go full fire. With almost ur setup. But scale ignite with sunder for clear and huge ignite with perfect strike for bosses

[zinc cipher]

these 4 nodes reduce mana costs of skill by 60%

[loud summit]

And grab early flame avatar

[twin coral]

which one is better for electric mercenary?

[zinc cipher]

that sounds like a blast! im sure there is some kinda unique that works perfectly with it

[loud summit]

Hopefully I

🤞

[zinc cipher]

u gonna warbringer or titna?

titan?

[loud summit]

Well I think titan is superior cause of the 2h str

Probably

[dusky rivet]

Question regarding the 'new' ignite.

I know penetration still doesn't affect ignite damage - but from what I understand of the ailment threshold, the hit will determine the chance to ignite.

Therefore does penetration help in improving chance to ignite?

[zinc cipher]

yh i am just str stacking as hell rn

im at 305 at lvl44 rn

this passive is godly

[trim forge]

To put it simply;
fire dmg = chance to ignite. Penetration is indirectly more fire dmg, so you ignite more often

[loud summit]

Yeah I think titan is better. Warbringsr breaking armor sounds cool, but if I’m scaling all fire ignites who cares about armor haha

[dusky rivet]

Yeah this is what I suspected, just struggled to find a solid answer. Thanks

[trim forge]

[honest storm]

any witch hunter grenade builds for merc? Most of what I seen have been gemling

[main jetty]

does "less dmg" from meat shield applies to minion instability and infernal legion dmg?

[placid sundial]

I have my build totally built around Gas Grenade, Whats the next best or closest changes I can make to attempt to recover my dumpster fire of a character after a nerf that's pretty much rendered my character useless.

[main jetty]

u sure ur nor overreacting? just because you cant oneshot pinnacle bosses anymore doesnt mean ur character is useless...

[placid sundial]

Well I wasnt one shotting pinnacle bosses. But okay, thanks for being a jerk

[main jetty]

im not trying to be a jerk, im serious: nerf doesnt mean its suddenly useless

[pseudo condor]

I mean.. bringing it in line with other abilities means its just balanced now not OP.

so if you were only doing okay, than secretly, your build wasnt really working

What act are you in?

[placid sundial]

Well thats why I am asking for help,, Im in A3

[sage lynx]

anyone know if Herald of thunder procs, if supported with Conduction, can shock enemies itself?

[pseudo condor]

There has been a few spots where I suddenly was not doing well, it came down to sometimes just needing a new skill swap out, level up, or crafting a new item to cover a flaw. Act 3 is definitely just way harder than 2 as well. I'm in early act 3 as well

[placid sundial]

Im not early act A3, I think im about mid way, I am on Gor-Gor Mog

[main jetty]

it does

[north talon]

305 is nuts at that level, do you have strength gear?

[placid sundial]

And what was possible before, is essentially impossible now

[midnight oasis]

what is this effect when i shock enemies they explode like this

[zinc cipher]

i have from gear 19 on helm 16 on shield and 10 on a ring

thats all

[sacred aspen]

Can you guys help me make my build better? I'm trying to make a warrior focused around breaking armour and stunning enemies, i'm dual wielding maces and i'm using armour breaker and boneshatter a lot, however i feel i'm not dealing any meaningful damage outside of fully charged perfect strike

[zinc cipher]

i need 264 to wield my 88str mace

even with hulking form and all nearby STR nodes, i need STR gear

[sacred aspen]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/vyyi0hq2

[zinc cipher]

to wield a 2h

[sacred aspen]

here is what i got going on in the tree

[brittle crow]

do raging spirits scale well with minion crit?

[zinc cipher]

so do beware, u gonna spend a ton tryna get enough STR to wield 2h without Hulking Form

[north talon]

Doesn't hulking form not even work on travel nodes though?

[young meteor]

QUESTION: Is recouped dmg considered as leech? or is on kill mana considered leech? I am conserned as my build is currently based around mana leech for defense and currently that is only available on a rune or weapons.

[north talon]

so you shouldn't be that much higher than a non hulking form

[zinc cipher]

it doesnt, but it works with these

and these

[tender oasis]

yea it works with the nodes in those

[zinc cipher]

they are strenght nodes

[tender oasis]

the enes sthat glow when you hit the main node

[zinc cipher]

also gives u 8% more STR

inc*

[wild dirge]

anyone have any advice for an artillery ballista warbringer build? I just got to the cruel version of act 1 and feel like im starting to fall off. I have a crossbow with +3 to all projectile skills, and I went for the extra totems in passive tree so I have 4 total ballistas. I also took some attack speed stuff. I am insanely tanky I feel like, but I dont deal nearly enough damage. should I be trying to get more fire damage? lean into ignite? do I need more projectile damage?

I have ~60 % fire pen when I oil grenade

[sage light]

is innervate with attacks gain 35% of damage as lightning damage for 3 seconds or 30% lightning pen more dps? Wish we had PoB2

[reef escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/звон-колокольныйзвон-монахзвонит-колокол-монах-gif-25305116

tempest bell go

[plain osprey]

for tempest flurry, is +physical damage or +elemental/lightning damage better?

[north talon]

Apparently they nerfed supercharged lsame from 100% more per stage to 20% more per stage and I can't imagine how broken it was at 100%. It feels strong at 20% right now O.O

[midnight oasis]

for weapon full physical

[plain osprey]

i see, so i did do good with my staff i believe
wasn't sure if i should've been using one with more elemental damage

[midnight oasis]

very good for a 28 lvl

[plain osprey]

haven't gotten anything better yet and regal orbs are rare af... level 46 now still rolling with that one

[midnight oasis]

just use flury bell and charged staff

no more than 10 sec for each boss

[keen viper]

Is there a way to pick up passive energy shield regen when using CI other than pathing to zealot’s?

[reef escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/pingu-school-school-bell-ringing-the-bell-gif-22150054

[plain osprey]

oh, bosses are no problem

but the mobs in utzaal... i gave up after my 7th attempt to get out of the initial area

[timber plover]

do runes in shields give you the armor or weapon stat on the rune?

[reef escarp]

the only problem im having with monk are mobs that do aoe dot damage, like poison pools, after death

[plucky hare]

Any one have any good recommendations for Arctic Armor and Support Gems for it?

[plain osprey]

yeah any dot just deletes my hp

0% chaos resis though...

[reef escarp]

oof

[wheat marlin]

Is anyone able to decipher what Jungroan means in this levelling guide where the setups are "in order"? In what order? I thought in terms of progression but you can do the second one earlier than the first, since you don't get SRS until later?
https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/jungroan-cast-on-ignite-comet

[trim nexus]

just started monk which is better

[plain osprey]

left one

actually nvm right one mb

[static plinth]

Was there something that let you dodge roll AoEs?

[trim forge]

Nopege

[placid sundial]

For my 2nd merc Persistent buff, which one is stronger, scavenger or the exposure ?

[trim forge]

Acrobatics is too much of a downside for its upside atm imho

[north talon]

Does this not apply to the evasion from dodge rolls?

[alpine sky]

how to you get skill gems? I used a level 5 skill gem on a skill I now realize isn't that good and without a separate tier 5 skill I'm kinda stuck. Is there anyway to farm for tier 5 skill gems in act 1?

[wild dirge]

prob wont see another 5 skill gem in act 1, youll see them plenty in act 2

[pure valley]

does strip away give exposure, or does it only work for things that already have exposure, cuz i keep seeing it being able to be put on things that doesnt do exposure

[crimson oar]

Does anyone know if Lingering Illusion draws aggro?

[zinc cipher]

Woah

[plain osprey]

i'm in act 3 atm, and i need to fix my gear
what map should i farm for drops or what would y'all recommend i do either for gear drops/regal farming/money farming?

[hardy agate]

I don't understand how lightning arrow will interact with pierce or chain from the tree. Beams emit on hit, so in theory for every hit including piercing. But will the beams not chain if they pierce an enemy? Can the beams even pierce?

[north talon]

I was very unimpressed. The Consecrated ground is tiny

[zinc cipher]

yh its super small damn

[deft mirage]

how do i buy for 0.3ex?

[pseudo condor]

get an exacto knife and carefully shave your exalted orb down a bit

[royal badge]

Does ele equilibrium work on a three-element hit to apply 3x exposures?

[thick pecan]

Where are people getting extra projectile on deadeye? Aside from ascendency

[royal badge]

some bow has implicit chain chance

and another bow has extra arrow

[tender cargo]

are there any good acolyte of chayula builds so far?

not really many chaos skills for monk

[vivid ferry]

Just to confirm, reduced attribute here means if I have a weapon with 300 str -> reduced to 255 str? (300x0.85)

[tender cargo]

no, its a local mod

[static plinth]

Can you reserve Darkness like you can spirit?

[tender cargo]

applies to the item itself

[vivid ferry]

ah ok thanks

[wanton hill]

For meta gems, when one is used does that consume all my energy and resets all other meta gems?

[half iron]

any merc dudes can recommend some sustain nodes for endgame? how much do you actually need?

[fresh epoch]

Can someone help me get my cast on freeze together? im watching ppl just throw the skills on and do it but i cant replicate. plz help

[mellow yoke]

Where to get chaos res? I can barely find any anywhere

[north talon]

Amathyst rings, mod on armor. In general it is hard to come by

[pseudo condor]

how do you get the info like R4 and "of the worthy" to show up?

[cosmic basin]

there's a socketable with it too

[lament oxide]

As a rule of thumb, is it better to build around a single ailment rather than two?

[royal badge]

People of the poe discord, I have done something insane to solve my mana problems: I have gotten my flask down to 3 charges per use, with the 30% instant recovery too. plus some charges per second from the tree

[light sphinx]

why did my sunder unequip from hotkey bar, and when I go back to re equip it doesn’t give me the option????

[vivid ferry]

using this link, and holding alt while hovering over the stat https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2/search/poe2/Standard/065QXrwcg

[north talon]

If a warcry both grants and consumes rage, does it consume the rage it granted or does it need to have rage before hand to consume?

[mellow yoke]

Any good?

[pseudo condor]

oh duh, thats from the trade, not in game, thats right...

[trim nexus]

is scattershot good on falling thunder? (monk)

[young meteor]

BUMP, does anyone know? If recouped dmg is considered leech

[north talon]

spending your last exhault to slam on light radius... that is just how it is

[mellow yoke]

I see its worth 11-13 ex on market so what build is it used in?

[loud zephyr]

is blood mage really that bad right now? people are saying its complete dogshit. i really dont feel like making a new character.....

[cosmic jackal]

I can’t tell if I want more shock or more electrocute

[mellow yoke]

compared to infernalist its super dog

[loud zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[spring jackal]

Is earthquake good for clearing in maps?

[lucid marsh]

should i go bloodmage or infernalist

[mellow yoke]

Infernalist

[pearl orbit]

CI MoM DB int stack monk will be broken mark my words

[rich pine]

I just cant decide on Titan vs Warbringer..
I want to go Corrupting Cry strength stacker but I am just not certain which one will give me more in the end.
Warbringer will defenitely be better in the early game with its 0 warcry cooldown, but Titan has that insane +50% node which works for strength, war-cry cdr, warcry cast speed etc etc, so I think its better lategame? Just making sure, Titan DOES work on the attribute travel-nodes, right?

[river vessel]

After running out of mana pots on one boss I would like to ask, what's the most op build atm? Just wanna get through campaign as painlessly as possible and maybe return to my original character later

[mellow yoke]

What stats should I be looking for on my wand on my infernalist witch?

I was thinking level of all fire skills+spell damage+max mana at least

[rancid haven]

is there any way to stop ES recharged interruption?

[orchid current]

any invoker players want to share how they're sustaining power charges for charge staff

[feral halo]

Look what I just did, this is on cruel mode and the boss is the same lvl as me https://www.twitch.tv/undraz/clip/GlamorousSuccessfulPonyShazBotstix-XargAv94daVgjFbQ

[rigid socket]

So what are warriors using on bosses? I'm cleaning up on everything else with leap slam plus bone shatter but I wind up killing bosses mostly with mace strike

[rich pine]

That seems to be about it atm..

[feral halo]

that's what warriors are using on bosses https://www.twitch.tv/undraz/clip/GlamorousSuccessfulPonyShazBotstix-XargAv94daVgjFbQ

[rich pine]

Warrior feels quite lacking early-game so far.

[feral halo]

Warrior is the hardest class to play early game

but I'm now mid-endgame and 1 shotting everything

[paper vine]

Anyone know if Chronomancer is any fun? Doesn't seem to be too popular

[rigid socket]

Yeah I can get to Giants blood but I have half the strength I need when it triples the requirements

[north talon]

Warrior isn't really weak early, but it is not intuative how to play the early game with the skills you have

[rigid socket]

I basically try to set up heavy stun and then heavy stun is there more to it

[trim forge]

Milkybk solved this iirc

[fast gyro]

Can a Sorceress do this too?

[trim forge]

Not automated but it's at least a one button easy cast

[tender oasis]

Rolling slam downtime is too long

[north talon]

Rolling slam is mostly a clear skill and eventually a utility stun builder. It is never a DPS tool. Early on your best damage tool is basic attack which is not intuative.

[rigid socket]

Yeah I just look at the DPS numbers on the skills and I use mace strike because the numbers are bigger

[north talon]

Those numbers are generally quite misleading with how contextual a lot of damage is in PoE2

but basic attack is just a dumb damage skill if that is what you need

[rich gull]

Slap in faster attack + bleed, and you good to go

the boss fight is just throw in totem, and mace attack while dodging mechanics

[rigid socket]

Well against most of the bosses in the game that seems to be exactly what you need

[north talon]

There are better anti boss tools, but you do not get them in early gem tiers

[novel estuary]

Sooo adding Fire Infusion and Ignition to Gas Grenade won't do anything new right?

[tropic pine]

How this affects posion?

[azure saffron]

does anyone know if mind over matter works with infernal flame?

[frozen knot]

does poe planner work with poe2?

[trim forge]

Poison isnt an elemental ailment

[rigid socket]

Is bleed good I haven't been using it I've been using ignition instead

[frozen knot]

its just elemental ailments

[tropic pine]

Gotcha, thanks!

[lyric plank]

charms need a rework

[tropic pine]

I think we need just more slots

Dunno how to unlock secomnd

[lyric plank]

they are legit useless

[golden wing]

bleed is very good. i play warrior totem bleed build. just bleed and roll until win

[haughty wadi]

what's the difference between increased physical damage, and increased global physicald damage

[tropic pine]

nah, saved my ass plenty times

[lyric plank]

I dont get hit enough for them to matter

[rich gull]

yeah bleed is nice extra damage, it scales with physical dmg

[strange hill]

why does magnetic salvo not work with concentrated effect

any knowers? or is tooltip bugged

[orchid current]

is it that cast on shock profane ritual nonsense

[trim forge]

Reaper somethinf

[orchid current]

ah

reaper's invocation

i guess that would push me to get the meta skills generate 35% more energy node? but then what other nodes do i want...

[radiant yarrow]

does critical do more elemental ailments because of damage bonus? if that's how it works, is it better to focus crits or elemental damage (lightning monk)

[orchid current]

i do want the full pen on crit node and maybe elemental expression, but the spirit and the phys reduction with evasion node also seem good...

[heavy cipher]

Hey guys. So if I understand main vs weapon 1,2 right "main" is used to cross long distances on the passive tree? Then I can just use the weapon 1 skill points on select nodes. So you should just use them on the big stat nodes..? Like if wep1 is lightning only get big stat lightning nodes to save on pts and on wep2 get ice for example. And main applies to all weapons?

[golden sky]

What's the odds of this interaction being altered: Last grasp letting you explode minions over and over again until last grasp timer expires

[tropic river]

Hey @sacred sail just curious did you like the skill tree changes I reccomended? Did it feel better?

[native widget]

guys, does anyone know if chained hits crit?

[haughty wadi]

ya ofc

[native widget]

👍 ty

[native widget]

my main question is if it counts towards CoC tho]

thats why i was asking

[haughty wadi]

it would

unless coc has an internal cd, which it doesn't as far as i know

[native widget]

yeah pretty sure it doesnt

[lusty yoke]

should lightning rod be given scattershot do you think?

[lavish fulcrum]

Is Poison ranger just not viable? seems really weak atm

[north talon]

Just to highlight you should try out armor explosion if you haven't already

[torn root]

What the hell

That was crazy

[north talon]

easy to do on stun builds and damage shotguns whole packs quite well. Also it looks amazing, also sounds great but I forgot to record audio

[tender oasis]

it looka like teh explsoion procks other armor

[north talon]

It does in this case because I am a warbringer.

[naive pagoda]

Y'all think the demon form on witch isnt worth running? Ive been having fun with it but feel like it'll suck at 100 because the stat loss from not getting your weapon stats

[north talon]

so all damage just breaks armor

Fun node honestly

but the armor break support could acomplish the same thing I expect

[minor coyote]

Would the blueflame bracers converting 100% of fire dmg to cold be viable for a cold infernalist?

[rich pine]

Just making sure, the Titan 50% node DOES work on the attribute travel-nodes, right?

[north talon]

not travel nodes

it does work on fixed attribute nodes like those around Beef though

[tender oasis]

it works on nodes leading up to the big passives

[rich pine]

Oh? That is VERY GOOD to hear!
Because that just made my choice way easier :D

Warbringer it is!

[north talon]

woo more Warbringer players. I feel like Titan had all the hype from Warrior on release

[wintry oracle]

does anyone know what this item does?

[rich pine]

It means that you only need strenght for melee gems and support gems that support melee skills.

[wintry oracle]

ohhh ok

[north talon]

Here now complete with sound AND lagspike on explosion xD

[native widget]

i swear to fucking god, whoevers idea it is to put mana draining mob with mach 5 speed in the game is an actual *******

[teal sluice]

i heard u can get chaos res from acts, like a reward from killing a thing?

[fast cloud]

Coming over from diablo 4, need warrior build advice, any build guides yet

[orchid current]

that is immaculate drip, what's the armor + cape?

[marsh seal]

So how is flicker monk? Is it worth investing in rn? Or is it just not great

[north talon]

Just the Lord of Ogham set from the $60 Early Access pack

[orchid current]

damn

already spent a lot this month but i might upgrade

[north talon]

it looks very good in game, AND if you play WASD you can cape spin

[last patio]

hrmmm, how do I determine for myself whether I wanna slot my gear with energy shield/life/ele resist runes?

aiming to go into poe 2 never needing a guide for anything lol

[orchid current]

chat am i about to make a 4th build in 5 days

[trim nexus]

is "rarity of items found" important?

[orchid current]

i really want to play jung's eye of winter coc comet

[native widget]

what class are you

[orchid current]

but i'm still campaigning with a cast on freeze stormweaver and a tempest strike invoker that i'm enjoying

[storm palm]

howcome bloodmage lightning dps is way too low.. should i just go ice?

[native widget]

not gonna work as stormweaver fyi

not until super late atleast

[orchid current]

i know which is why i'm probably going to roll another monk

[rapid current]

Are mercenary grenades considered projectiles I.E if I put passives into projectile damage does it increase my grenade damage?

[vivid laurel]

are there reall yno belts that have more than 1 charm slot? i cant find any.

[vivid laurel]

if look at the skill tags. if your see projectiles there then yes

[rapid current]

Skill tags?

[still rock]

whats your highest lvl lmao

[rapid current]

Ah ty sir B)

[orchid current]

like 45 or something

[still rock]

no doubt

[orchid current]

it's my merc that just started cruel

[still rock]

Is merc cool is xbow fun

i was gunna do a melee merc maybe to be a hipster

[orchid current]

i felt like it was getting a tad monotonous but the xbow is def strong

explosive bolt is literally the cornerstone of this weapon type

[still rock]

witchhunter sounds so much stronger as melee to me but maybe im wrong

[orchid current]

i never really got that impression?

seemed kinda agnostic

melee ranged spells all gud

[still rock]

youre right i just want to play it melee but i want swords

[viscid sail]

how do i "plan" playing the witch?

[trim nexus]

is "increased rarity of items found" important?

[still rock]

need more info on what you want to do

"witch" can be played any way

[still rock]

It's most likely thematic because I'm imagining in my head as witchhunter being like Blade

[pearl sluice]

Anyone selling any good Two Handed weapons?

[still rock]

But yeah mechanically it's fairly neutral in terms of playstyle, just good stuff all around

[main jetty]

do vendors reset over time or do i have to lvl up?

[white timber]

Can someone explain what 2 meters is on this screen? Trying to see if my momentum works on bonestorm

[north talon]

Main issue to me is imo big slow mace hits don't rally benifit as much from some of the effects like culling strike

[shrewd hazel]

I know they reset on level up. Not sure if there is a timer as well

[north talon]

When we get swords/axes I think melee witchhunter will be a very compelling option

[viscid sail]

@still rock i want to spam summons of all kinds and to do most of the work for me 💀

if possible. the AFK as i call it.

[eternal pine]

can anyone recommend a good warrior act 2 build

[still rock]

Here's a pic of PoE1 with reference to the old units (10=1meter)

This may be slightly different, since new game etc etc but probably helpful for a general idea

[still rock]

I'm not sure if afk summoner is a thing in this game tbh

From what I understand it's fairly active

[north talon]

That does not look like meters O.o

[still rock]

10 = 1 meter

it's the old system pre-2023

[midnight obsidian]

back in the old days we measured them in wetas

[viscid sail]

not litterly afk. 😂 no but i want to summon alot, and strong stuff if possible

like...less work for me but put it on the summons to fight for me

[midnight obsidian]

many of the skeleton minions are self-reviving on a timer

[still rock]

It's so oceanic to idolize a giant bug

[north talon]

Back in the old days we scaled area of effect radius instead of area of effect area :)

[midnight obsidian]

the mtx screen tells me I have 100 pets and none of them are wetas

[vestal storm]

anyone playing stormweaver in endgame? i currently do 0 damage and im wondering if its just me or if its just tha tbad

[west iron]

which is better?

[slender wolf]

can some1 explain how this works? how do u sell .2?

and would this sell good? +6

[neat laurel]

I raise you this

[still rock]

So unfortunately there isn't an ascendancy that fills the old "Necromancer" niche as of now in EA, but you can still play minions rather effectively with going into Raging Spirits with Infernalist ascendancy (from what I understand from other players, I haven't done it yet).

[slender wolf]

lol

[still rock]

They have a wolf! 😄

As for how to build it, I can't give you any advice at all because I don't play minion builds pretty much ever lol

But there's a breadcrumb for you at least

[viscid sail]

wait so what else can you do with witch then if minions isnt in the menu?

(if i dont respond.. i read the messege probably but knocked out) 😂

[white timber]

Thanks, but found out Nova spells has radius mentioned in details pretty useful

[torn lark]

do totems snapshot your weapon sets' stats? trying to plan out the rest of my tree and wondering if I gotta do set skills or not. For instance, if I use a totem with weapon set A with +8 melee levels then swap to set B with +4, will my totems' dps decrease?

[still rock]

Does it display on the actual game screen?

😮

[west iron]

which is better??????????????

[cunning creek]

There is a node on the tree that says
"Recover 3% of Mana when you Invoke a Spell
Triggered Spells deal 45% increased Spell Damage"

Is the recovery based on spent mana or maximum mana pool ?
I'm guessing spent mana but it's not explicitly said and could be written as reduced cost of triggered spells if it's the first

[graceful nymph]

Hey guys. Can anyone point me to information on Daze mechanic ? I can see some nodes in the tree raising Daze build up, some skill consuming Daze, but I see nothing to trigger Daze on mobs. Any hints ?

[still rock]

Blood Mage which is like a life-focused spell caster type theme, and Infernalist which is a fire damage minion flair, and then there's also Gemli which seems to be just generally useful

[sly leaf]

What are the best supports for Incinerate besides Controlled Destruction and Magnified Effect?

It recs Eternal Flame, but, does that actually raise the damage or just keep things burning when they leave your damage?

I also don't understand what Bringer of Flames does, like at all

If I already have 100% chance to Ignite something, like from Flame Wall or Incinerate or Solar Orb, the "minions contribute to Ignite chance" part does nothing, right?

[feral halo]

hey guys! any ignite titans know if these are good for the build?

[sly leaf]

I don't really understand the Magnitude part of the skill either, I get what Magnitude of Ignite is, but I don't get what it means to let your minions contribute to it? What does that actually do?

Does this whole thing just mean Raging Spirits can inflict Ignite at x magnitude without support gems?

[cold lantern]

I wonder if my build can kill this boss

[sly leaf]

Or like, any minion with 20% added Fire Damage can inflict Ignite at magnitude proportional to the 20% added Fire Damage?

It is such a vaguely worded thing @_@

Also I'm guessing, Flame Wall and Incinerate overwrite each other, whichever has higher Ignite dmg will be the only one actually doing any damage?

Last question, for anyone bothering to answer these: Is there a difference between Exposure from Incinerate and reduced Fire Resist from Flammability?

[wicked raft]

flamewall has a higher ignite ceiling dps.

fire expore and flammability stacks

exposure*

[junior anvil]

Can anyone tell me an example of a good "cast on crit" skill that I would maybe want to trigger?

[sly leaf]

Someone said you can only reduce enemy res to -15%, is that surpassed by Exposure? Like if you curse down to -15% then Expose for -50% does it actually reach -65%?

[wicked raft]

that should be how it works

but typical monster has an inherent resist

dependent on level and monster type

[unique pecan]

is there a way to make comet do lightning damage with cast on shock, at least somewhat

[wicked raft]

fyi, in poe 1, bringing resist down to below zero will make them take even more damage

[chilly mist]

how can you target improve various resistances?

[wicked raft]

items

[sly leaf]

So assuming they have 25% resist and you go -40% with Flammability to -15%, then another 50% Exposure, that monster still goes down to -65%?

[wicked raft]

if the enemy has 80% fire resist, it drops to 15%

if enemy has 40%, it drops to -25%, means it takes 25% more fire damage

[chilly mist]

lol. i mean, how can you target farm a given resistance you're low on in this?

[wicked raft]

are you still in acts or endgame mapping?

[sly leaf]

@chilly mist use runes to shore up low resists is the only thing I can think of

[chilly mist]

acts

[midnight obsidian]

runes can add specific res once you find some gear with sockets

[wicked raft]

you can still run acts on low resist, just be smart with dodging etc

[sly leaf]

you won't need max res until maps is my understanding

[wicked raft]

when ure in endgame, you can start crafting gears using essences

[sly leaf]

so you're sure it can go to -25%? Not just -15%?

[grizzled geyser]

does lightning scale with int or dex

[wicked raft]

in poe1 there are some items that reverses the resistance on enemies, 80% becomes -80% and they take even more damage

[sly leaf]

neither, stats don't contribute to direct damage in PoE 2

[grizzled geyser]

oh thats right ok. i know int gives mana but what does dex do?

[sly leaf]

I understand how PoE 1 works, but in 2 I saw someone mention you can't reduce monsters below -15% in this

[wicked raft]

i dont know poe2's calculation - im going off based on poe1

[sly leaf]

dex gives melee / ranged accuracy and lets you wear evasion armor (and equip dex based gems)

[wicked raft]

poe 1, you get extra reduced elemental resistances after clearing act 5 and 10, means if you dont cap you will take more damage

so in a way poe2 it isnt THAT bad

[sly leaf]

plus it gives us free permanent +resists from quests / unique monster kills

[wicked raft]

wikia has no calculation on negative resist yet

only way is to test it on bosses

stack flammability and exposure and see if they take more damage or less

[atomic horizon]

Does the "reoccur" also do support gem effects?

[wicked raft]

also a quick tip - i realized +% damage's damage increase is nothing compared to increased gem level

[sly leaf]

Oh wow @wicked raft I just checked PoE Wiki and ->

Negative resistance causes the defender to take more damage from that damage type. For characters, the completion of each act permanently reduces all resistances by -10%, to a total of -60% when a player reaches endgame.

[wicked raft]

that's poe 1

[sly leaf]

So yeah we still lose 60% by maps 😢

No this is PoE 2 Wiki, we lose 10% per act

[wicked raft]

nowonder i got negative resist lol

[sly leaf]

it doesn't say anything about a -15% limit though on enemies

[exotic mantle]

We get 20% all res for free tho

[wicked raft]

nope

[exotic mantle]

• Chaos doesn't get reduced

[wicked raft]

gotta wait LocalIdentity to do his thing

dont tag him lol

[trim crystal]

Hi. With bleed and poison bypassing ES, a what happens with a CI char when bleeding?

[exotic mantle]

Bleed bypasses ES?

[wicked raft]

Bleed shouldnt bypass ES

[exotic mantle]

Poison is chaos damage also

[formal geode]

Looking for thoughts on my maxroll build plan. Am I investing too much in minions?

[exotic mantle]

So you just don't take poison damage

[wicked raft]

im doing minion myself - do you plan to explode ur SRS?

[formal geode]

no just instability for when they die

[sly leaf]

I think, Incinerate is going to be a really fun play style in 2 since you can move while casting, and Ghazi was talking about how he eventually moved away from Instability on Raging Spirits

[wicked raft]

then you can take out a bit of minion HP

too much minion HP means they dont pop in time their duration ends

[formal geode]

true but more hp means more dmg when they do die

[sly leaf]

Infernal does % dmg to minions not fixed

[spring jackal]

Is there a way to convert the fire damage from perfect strike back to physical?

[trim crystal]

I get the poison part, but on poe2wiki keywords bleeding states it bypasses ES. So If a char is CI it would mean it dies to a papercut.

[exotic mantle]

I think that's a mistake

[wicked raft]

i want to trigger this, but too much hp on minions means they wont pop and they die from duration

[exotic mantle]

That would make no sense

[trim crystal]

Yeah

[wicked raft]

based on HP of minion

[formal geode]

what do you mean wont pop?

[sly leaf]

Yes, so it will take more HP per second from them as their Max HP increases

[wicked raft]

i want them to explode.

[unborn quest]

If I'm running lightning deadeye, is the [Painter's Servant Torn Gloves] unique i dropped worth it at all?

[sly leaf]

They will, because the damage isn't a fixed number, it scales with their hp

[exotic mantle]

I'm personally not going CI anyway despite being an ES build

[formal geode]

oh i dont i just want them to do some revenge if they do die

[exotic mantle]

It feels like minimal gain now that regular chaos damage doesn't bypass

[wicked raft]

ideally you want srs to pop cause its good splash damage

[vague kelp]

how do i check crit chance

[wicked raft]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgEBeB5xmi5FWkesTBoilrPAtjQSg0mdBtuj7cfwVypZJQ7v60beZ-FuhQrn8LUWeQOuvSn24KIFmYgYega9qB8YW1bDuLhAktojF4NMnQjxkoHYOXgPGn4CTLwJzNT5Vn2zPeWlM_sPNu_r9NW12rqPveMQr_WnylVdg-gh5tUQLIO6EnXBuYa9Q03_ML21cdxUZoNfPg3efFj_RF3TFHgA1WiOmwouqWZPpBE3IKWkB-5imDxvKld5Bac6YYY_mH2fT1QkO_6s36Oxb53olTjUDXP4OdeMuDND8r_AbAo05lijRjXi6r6GrQuU2Rd26PQMqgAA

this is ghazzytv's minion build, HP based. do this and u shud be golden.

[atomic horizon]

Does each projectile have its own crit chance, or does the spell itself crit (meaning all or none of projectiles)?

Thanks for the help 🙏

[wicked raft]

spell itself, all projectile

[trim nexus]

do i go for the left one with phy dmg or the one on the right? im mainly using lightning skills

[atomic horizon]

Does each projectile trigger on hit crit, or only once for the spell critting?

[wicked raft]

on it

hit

[wicked raft]

depends u wanna go spell or attack still

[formal geode]

like his holy relic build, surprised hes managed to get one up already

ill have to look into it and see how much his and mine differ

[trim nexus]

im early game mainly using 2 lightning skills to clear with monk

[wicked raft]

im still in acts, i followed his build and its been a breeze

[trim nexus]

idk if phy dmg also affects lightning dmg

[atomic horizon]

So more projectiles and pierce will scale with on crit well, correct?

I can assume that one Spark that crits can trigger an on hit affect MANY times?

[wicked raft]

yeah is the lightning skill attack or spell based?

[trim nexus]

how do i check

[formal geode]

just finished act 1 at lvl 15, been doing my own thing but overall pretty easy aside from some bosses but thats normal haha

act 1 boss took a few tries due to less than stellar gear and fighting him drunk lol

[lost rapids]

Am I missig an obvious reason Profance Ritual isn't working with Sacrifice?

[wicked raft]

thats an attack skill. see the attack tag in the interface?

[split rampart]

Anyone has some good sorc lightning build?

[wicked raft]

see the spell tag?

[trim nexus]

so phy dmg affects it?

[lost rapids]

Sacrice says "skills"

[wicked raft]

it converts a portion of phys attack to lightning damage.

60%% to be exact

[radiant yarrow]

what gems are best used with hand of chayula for some better lightning invoker stuff

[wicked raft]

the one on the right is better because of lightning but later on you wanna upgrade

[trim nexus]

wait but the one on the top says lightning

aoe.melee.slam.proj/lightning

[wicked raft]

the lightning damage is addition

[teal sluice]

gathering storm feels so damn powerful its nuts

[trim nexus]

meanwile this is phy

[trim nexus]

o

[wicked raft]

that means the lightning damage will be added to killing palm as well

the 1-13 damage

[trim nexus]

so for now i use the one on the right?

[wicked raft]

yeah

[trim nexus]

alr

[wicked raft]

remember

lightning damage causes shock, makes enemies takes even more damage

shock = more dmg
ignite = fire dot burn
chill = slowed action speed

[lost rapids]

Sacrifice also works with Detonate Dead which also has the spell tag.

[last patio]

how do I determine for myself whether I wanna slot my gear with energy shield/life/ele resist runes?

[exotic mantle]

Anyone else feeling like penetration is kinda useless if you're already using flammability?

[wicked raft]

i wont use that cause minion builds does not scale spell power which increases damage for detonate dead

[exotic mantle]

Like it's cool not having to curse mobs

But then again am I not just onehitting normal mobs anyway

[wicked raft]

some bosses have 80-90% resistances

moreover fire resistant mobs

[lost rapids]

What?
No, I mean the game won't let me cast profane ritual on my skeletons when I have sacrifice activated.

[wicked raft]

skeletons are not corpses.

[exotic mantle]

Just from tree you get 57% fire pen

My main issue is imagine this

Enemy is on 90% res

Flammability takes it to 45%

Exposure to ~20%

[haughty wadi]

what does turtle charm warbringer ascendancy do

[exotic mantle]

And now only 20% of your 57% pen number applies

[lost rapids]

...Ok, nvm you didn't actually read my question then.
Read what sacrifice does

[rough quartz]

is attack damage / projectile damage added on to poison attacks or is that an entire different part of the attack
like is projectile the part of the hit on the enemy then the poison that it lands does a different type of damage?

ranger class

[wicked raft]

the latter

[atomic horizon]

If you are casting and holding a movement key, is that ALWAYS considered moving, event if I am super slow due to fast cast speed?

[wicked raft]

moving

[exotic mantle]

Is anyone getting good ignites?

[timid cipher]

what options do i have to increase the dmg the explosion does? just stack fire dmg?

[exotic mantle]

I'm almost done picking up ignite passives and it's still kinda disappointing

[silent prawn]

minion dmg

[timid cipher]

yeah sorry i meant other than minion dmg

[silent prawn]

nothing else really. some supports for the minion maybe

[wicked raft]

fyi the explosion is nerfed already

too OP

[timid cipher]

its still doing more dmg than anything else in my kit atm

or do you mean its nerfed in an upcoming patch?

[unkempt nexus]

can i have some explanation or math behind what this means, so i can accurately help my gf?

[wicked raft]

nerfed recently, not upcoming

[fading ether]

You dont need a good build you just need +3 gem level and ur rolling everything

[unkempt nexus]

errr, where are you at exactly in the game?

[tender oasis]

yea that get silly

[neat laurel]

uhh is blink a wand spell ?

[fading ether]

if you have 100 evasion rating you have 30 evasion raiting.

[fading ether]

act 2 start

[unkempt nexus]

then yeah , that'll fall off quick if you dont build into the right nodes and support your stuff properly. but +3 to stuff does help a fk load.

[timid cipher]

ok i see in the patch notes its 100%-312% now, is the tooltip just outdated?

[hollow turret]

Anyone tried this? does smaller aoe make the aoe skill overlap each other easier? or harder?

[unkempt nexus]

so is it 70% off of the total, or does it work against other multipliers.

[summer needle]

anybody know if any flicker strike builds hv been made?🥲

[hollow turret]

reddit made one, let me find you the link

[north talon]

70% off the total, it is Less modifer. More/Less multiply against everything. Increased/Reduced add with other Increased/Reduced into one modifier

[summer needle]

tysm ily🖤😭

[hollow turret]

Here https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/J2x7TWDq1J

[radiant yarrow]

what are good supports for tempest flurry, I got martial tempo + primal armament + maim, what others should I use or switch out?

[fading ether]

total i would guess

[solemn roost]

does it make sense to switch temporary to another elemental weapon damage type when i am stuck at a act2 boss ||(balbala/frost)|| to do more damage, even if most of my skills (warrior) are based on fire damage and some of my specs already amplify that ? Because of mace skills in general are mostly fire, i actually wanted to build a fire warrior dude

[unkempt nexus]

that nodes seems ass then...at least rn

[hollow turret]

Anyone use Spell Cascade here?

[north talon]

It has a very steep drawback, not sure if there is a way to make it good atm but I have not sat down and looked at the math so maybe there is something I haven't seen. I do think it iworks with dodge rolls though since those essentialyl give you 100% evasion so I think it would let you dodge roll through slams

[neat dew]

Isn't it auto evade physical hits but be more vulnerable to spells?

[unkempt nexus]

not from what it says at least

[unkempt nexus]

tyvm for the info, never been super huge on the knowledge of how the terms are weighed.

[neat laurel]

how do you blink

I remember someone tralking about it some time ago

cant seem to find it under gems

[neat dew]

I mean it says evade hits at the cost of a reduction to evasion

[silent prawn]

Unique effect

[graceful drum]

just to confirm, aoe damage from a skill like Lightning Rod or the Beam damage from Lightning Shot wouldnt benefit from Projectile Damage passives, right?

[unkempt nexus]

no, it says CAN evade all hits. it doesnt mean it does.

[neat dew]

Or does evade all hits mean that you can now evade things you normally couldn't. Because with the 70% reduction you wont evade anything anyway lol

[modern socket]

Hey hivemind. What yall think about my tree for ignite Crossbow (Eplosive Shot) Titan?
https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/oz1lv03n

[spare marsh]

Frag rounds + fire infusion + eternal flame
Good combo?

[unkempt nexus]

yeah thats why it's a bad node (for now) until someone cracks the code (figures out some weird combo i guess)

[neat laurel]

you mean as in it is a unique item ?

[neat dew]

Okay then yeah it's bad

[summer needle]

side note does anybody know if the witch infernalist dog can solo?like idc for a full minion army i just want the puppy.was thinking if i go full buffing it can maybe work?

[boreal pollen]

Are ascendancy points locked or just what ascendancy you chose?

[oblique adder]

For SRS does every fire spell have its own set limit of spirits or is the maximum you can have overall 10?

[mellow shale]

Is the player's ailment threshold also based on HP pool? That would mean that Chaos Innoculation causes you to take an ailment from every single hit

[boreal pollen]

Is your pfp Chaewon?

[oblique adder]

…

Yeah

[boreal pollen]

Nicee

I like kpop also haha

[mellow shale]

I think Raging Spirits tool tip says it can get at most 6 spirits per cast, I tried a lot of different things to get past that limit of 6 and nothing worked

[silent prawn]

well it will die potentially, but if you have a full minionsetup it can likely solo too

[silent prawn]

max is 10. each firespell will summon different ammounts up to the max

[north talon]

also just FYI from testing, Negative armor from Warbringer seems to about double the physical damage dealt. Not sure what the actual math is here but it is quite good

[neat dew]

You can't run multiple of the same support gems right? Neither on the same skill nor on different skills

[north talon]

Not unless you are a Gemling Legionnaire

[neat dew]

Damn, I wanted the aoe increase on multiple skills

[north talon]

That would be nice, I just took 96% increased AoE size on the tree instead though

[shrewd raptor]

what do you do with your mana flask if you take infernal flame?

[neat dew]

I mean yeah there are plenty of options, I just figured maybe there was one that I didn't know about yet. I suppose the gemling one with aoe grenades is cool

[warped jackal]

Any tips to really increase physical damage as monk who goes for chaos/curse? Much appreciate it

[cursive shoal]

Is the consesus that the Invoker Monk ascendency is stronger than Acolyte? This is my first time playing POE and don't want to mess up my character by picking the wrong ascendenacy

[silent prawn]

they do different things
consensus is not yet gathered

[scenic goblet]

can any witch palyer tell me when is it a good time to abandon SRS and start investing on actual minions

I want to play a minion build, SRS is just a palceholder for it

[warped jackal]

but i think overall people go for invoker more often

[scenic goblet]

Im using infernalist ascendancy btw

[silent prawn]

after 3rd ascendancy I would switch.
basically after you get the Health to spirit node

[scenic goblet]

saw the spirit bump

[scenic goblet]

that aint gonna happen for 6 months 😂

[silent prawn]

well you can already work with lots of arsonists for the dmg and some frontline.

[scenic goblet]

i tried arsonists, attack speed support gem and the triple projectiles support gem

pretty good but its active skill isnt as useful as I thouht?

and i only ahve 130 spirits to work with now sadly

[silent prawn]

won't use active.

[scenic goblet]

like, just straight up dont use it?

[trim nexus]

which one is better for monk?

[silent prawn]

without like minions actively getting low for it to trigger
there is no real use

[silent prawn]

you are Act 2-3?

[lime stratus]

can someone pls let me know how to get more than 3 charges on arc invoker i saw travic with 7 charges

[cinder river]

How good is bleed on hit for the merc? Using the bolts

[mossy robin]

Hello guys, i want to ask some witch player who maybe already reached mid or end game
Is minion build any good?

[scenic goblet]

just got to act 3

[formal geode]

im early game but from what ive heard its very viable

[heavy cipher]

I'm really confused... does 1 skill pt equal 1 weapon skill pt?

[silent prawn]

watch GazzyTV for minion in endgame

[wicked raft]

im just walking around casting flamewall to trigger srs

watch everything die

[mossy robin]

Ah okay i will look into it

Thanks guys

[formal geode]

yeah i had difficulty until i got rising sprits and swapped to fire/chaos

[mossy robin]

I'm having trouble since my minion do a little damage but mob are getting stronger and faster

[pale silo]

yes it is but generally i think fire minions

[twilit fox]

Whete to get spirit? My sorc has 0.

[formal geode]

where in game are you?

[mossy robin]

Got it, thanks

[wicked raft]

reddit has another minion build using reapers, worth checking it out

[warm chasm]

For monk HC, should I be grabbing the eva/es nodes at start or the skill speed/damage?

[mossy robin]

A little in opening act 2

I think around traitor passage iirc

[silent prawn]

Reapers or Reavers?

[formal geode]

ah i just finished act 1, ive been using rising spirits/flamewall, contagion. and choas bolt mainly

honestly most of the game is pretty easy so far

[mossy robin]

Act 1 pretty doable, but for me not that easy

I think mainly the problem is my minion can't live long enough, and i need to rely on dps for bosses

[wispy raft]

Anyone have any unique spare poison armor or accessories that they don’t mind donating? My build is really struggling right now and I can’t afford to respec

[wicked raft]

reavers

[formal geode]

make sure you have a good rattle scepter and maybe a good wand as well

[pale silo]

people will find more builds yeah

[mossy robin]

My scepter currently gave skeleton warrior skill at level 5

[silent prawn]

Early Minions are really squishy and not designed to be the only source of dmg
it is suggested you are active to kill stuff
like with Cold spells to freeze stuff

[mossy robin]

My wand i think is chaos bolt, dps damage

[formal geode]

yeah just got a good yellow one with level 5, preferably with increased spirit

[mossy robin]

Indeed, that was exactly i thought

[languid epoch]

can anyone explain to me why these nodes are glowing for this streamer, but not for me? https://i.gyazo.com/bea71957423d58ef811b265c720a6432.png

[formal geode]

yeah so is mine, its a delicate balance

[exotic mantle]

https://maxroll.gg/poe2/passive-tree/#qm1mi03w
How does this look to y'all? Flameblast sorc

[mossy robin]

I'm thinking switching to elemental playstyle, but let's see if i could keep this playstyle

[formal geode]

i personally like chaos/fire, good minions and choas isnt heavily resisted so far

[mossy robin]

What is your passive tree so far?

I'm heavily invested to minion one

[wicked raft]

you can look at trigger builds

[solemn roost]

does anyone know if resonating shield works with magma barrier ?

[formal geode]

dont have a screenshot since im not in game but im have my maxroll plan

mostly minion based

I'm roughly here atm

[mortal thunder]

does strip away work with oil grenade? or does the interaction fail because it's the oil that applies exposure and not the grenade itself. the exposure effect doesn't seem to change in the details.

[languid epoch]

how can i annoit stuff to my amulet?

[warm delta]

Which types of jewels are there than can be socketed in the level up tree?

I wanna trade my baby for some jewels

[mossy robin]

Trigger build? What is that?

[mossy robin]

Okay thanks bro, appreciate it

[silent prawn]

Cast on x,
spirit gems

[formal geode]

np, no idea if that optimal but the road im goin, apparently ghazzytv put out a minion build so could look into that as well

[grizzled geyser]

should i use or save gemcutter's prisms? are they common enough to use on spells that might not be in my final build?

[dreamy oracle]

Swap rings ?

[glacial gust]

Im using oppenheimer build, everythin works phenomenal but...

i swapped staff from;

to

The problem from 'shocking' enemies im slowing them.. which is useless cause im converting dmg into lightning (from cold) and spamming 40 comets in 10s

Any ideas how can i use new staff WITHOUT slowing enemies?

[main jetty]

if you have blood magic, do you count as Low Mana?

[warm delta]

Sorry i need jewels. Other ppl have had the best luck on drops, ive only ever seen one

[dreamy oracle]

What Jewl u need I'm not on for 5hrs or so till home but I need ice dmg as I'm fill cold monk build

[warm delta]

Im a witch, i dont need physical
I need jewels that help with chaos, lightning, spell damage

Unfortunately the all-resist ring rolled as a physical cold BEAST and i need jewels 😭

[graceful drum]

Okay, am I crazy or are there no skills that inherently cause Electrocute buildup?

[warm delta]

"Increased chance to shock"

[north talon]

iirc it is mostly a bow mechanic?

[graceful drum]

But Shock is distinct from Electrocute

[warm delta]

Ahh i see you want the stun electrocute

[dreamy oracle]

Jewls (jewelry) or the gem for passive tree ?

[warm delta]

You want this then

[warm delta]

Gem for passive tree

[dreamy oracle]

Ah dam nothing else u want that ring I got is god tier for lightning

[warm delta]

Also this

Theres quite a few on the tree @graceful drum

[graceful drum]

Shock: Shock is an ailment that causes enemies to take 20% increased damage. Lightning damage from Hits Contributes to chance to Shock Enemies.
Electrocute: Electrocution is an ailment that interrupts a target's actions. Only Lightning damage from Hits with specific skills or effects Contributes to Elecrocution Buildup on enemies until they become Electrocuted. Other sources of Lightning damage will not build up towards Electrocution.

[trim nexus]

which one is better

[warm delta]

My main source of damage are chaos spells though, DoT w/+40% dmg & shorter duration, so i can spam and do a ton of hit + DoT

I need chaos gem

[glacial gust]

I need some1 with more then 30 iq, help

[warm delta]

Literally look at the pics i took for you man. It says electrocute buildup.

[dreamy oracle]

I need ur ring 😂😭

[graceful drum]

Yes, but that's increased buildup. If your buildup is 0%, 0% x 1.4 = 0%

[warm delta]

Tru. Youre SOL

Idk what McGuyver setup you have where you do electric dmg with NO base electrocute buildup 🤣

[graceful drum]

As far as I can tell, outside of maybe specific ascendancies, the only source of Electrocute buildup is the Electrocute support

[shrewd raptor]

chaos isnt an elemental ailment right?

[warm delta]

Correct, chaos isnt an ailment

[native widget]

im pretty certain they changed how eye of winter crit works just now

[glacial gust]

Imagine im slowing monsters with my new staff, and shocking with old staff

By any chance can i use this both "slow/shock" the same time or just only shock?

[shrewd raptor]

tyty

[native widget]

now its either all crit or all dont crit

and it fucking sucks

my whole build is rekted

[nova zephyr]

jesus christ. should I just switch from life to energy shields? I cant tell if this is good or bad.

[graceful drum]

Literally no lightning damage skills in the entire game as it currently exists inherently cause Electrocution buildup.

[nova zephyr]

Cause on one hand energy shields could stack uber high but you cant use flasks to regen...

[warm delta]

When i Arc an enemy, i see the white bar fill up under the screen, for stunning (which should be electrocute?)

[graceful drum]

No, that's Stun.

Not electrocute.

[warm delta]

Dm me

[glacial gust]

.

[silent prawn]

Extra dmg was on top of normal dmg right?
would the 5% form the Monk starting area be added to Chaos dots?

[warm delta]

Yes to the former, idk about monk tho

[timid cipher]

do i use this on a skill or an item?

[warm delta]

Is there an electrocute bar? Have you ever seen electrocute proc?
Its all server side code AFAIK, no way to datamine 😭

[silent prawn]

item

[glacial gust]

Imagine im slowing monsters with my new staff, and shocking with old staff

By any chance can i use this both "slow/shock" the same time or just only shock?

[small crystal]

does cast on shock ignore cooldowns on spells?

[graceful drum]

No, that's my point. Electrocute exists and there are passive nodes to boost it, but so far as I can tell there is only one way to add Electrocution Buildup to any skill, and that's the Electrocute support

[glacial gust]

yes and no

[small crystal]

so im running cast on shock with my lightning monk build, and before I go to comet, I can only really use arc. but I'm trying to see what support gems I should rock with Arc to maximize and I was thinking hourglass

[graceful drum]

Scratch that, there is exactly one skill

Electrocuting Arrow

[warm delta]

Your best bet are skills or items that explicitly state electrocute then

[small crystal]

but if I run hourglass im trying to figure out if that will prevent me from casting arc as quickly as I could be

[graceful drum]

seems so, yeah :(

[warm delta]

I hope they address this soon!

[plain osprey]

somebody help me understand something - i feel like there is much less flexibility in terms of what weapons (and therefore skills) to use with a certain class, especially something that would seemingly correlate with their ascendancy.
for example, the ranger obv. focuses on projectiles, dots and crits.
yet there is a bow that deals exclusively(?) chaos damage, which makes you think "huh. chaos ranger would be sick" yet most chaos attributes are WAY further in the upper parts of the attribute tree, so far that it doesn't seem feasible until the very late stages of the game
Monk has lots of chaos-related attributes with acolyte ascendancy, hinting at him using chaos-spells but any spell attributes are again further away, much further than the level at which you get your initial ascendancy points...

am i missing something here? are we supposed to pick our ascendancy just so we can make use of it at like level 60+?

[graceful drum]

Feels extremely odd to have a number of passive nodes that boost an ailment that has only extremely specific ways of being applied

[lime tinsel]

does support gems affect the linked spell in the permanent On shock/on Freeze and so on skills?

[warm delta]

Yeah i have the same issue with chaos. Its spread out all over the friggin tree

[crisp latch]

not sure if this is the right channel, but I'm trying to figure out why I suddenly can't inflict subsequent freezes on some mobs after they've been frozen and then unfrozen with coldsnap. anyone able to potentially help me troubleshoot?

[graceful drum]

generally ailments build up much slower for a bit after they have fully procced. is that what's happening?

[crisp latch]

nope, it's not building up at all. no progress bar

[graceful drum]

interesting...

[lime tinsel]

the mroe you freeze a enemy the harder it gets to freeze them again.
not sure if cold snap has a hidden modifier for that.

havent payed attention to snap specifically, but the second freeze is noticably harder then the first.

[lethal olive]

do leveling cast on freeze matter?

[crisp latch]

yeah there's noticeably harder, but then there's "no freeze buildup progress bar at all" which is what I have

[warm delta]

Im a level 40 infernalist maining chaos dmg. Look st the skill tree i posted. Its do-able, but there are more efficient (and arguably upfront more damaging) setups

We dont run chaos for fun, we do it for the game

[graceful drum]

what skill are you using to apply freeze?

[crisp latch]

freezing shards linked to chain, arcane tempo, and glaciation

just started having this issue an hour or two ago, I think

[plain osprey]

yeah but that's a witch, no?

[warm delta]

Same skill tree except ascendancy unless im mistaken

[graceful drum]

The Ice Shards crossbow skill?

[crisp latch]

staff skill. spell that fires 7 projectiles and has 50% more freeze buildup

[plain osprey]

yes but way easier access compared to other classes that have chaos-incentives, which is what my trouble lies in

[crisp latch]

the only thing I've changed is putting cold snap on cast on freeze instead of manual casting, but I've since tested it by turning off cast on freeze and it's still messed up

[warm delta]

Can you take a pic of your skill tree & we can swap notes?

If passive trees differ radically between classes, then meta for chaos builds will be a thing 😭

[graceful drum]

Glacial Cascade?

[ornate bluff]

Does anyone know if there is any information at all about what level of minions you're actually summoning? It seems like it's related to the gem level, but it's hard to reverse engineer what level they are

[glossy oriole]

Is there an Internal Timer for Cast on Minion Death? Is there a way to reduce it via cooldown reduction?

[candid hollow]

does accuracy matter for grenades

[crisp latch]

it's a spell, you get it from using a gelid staff base

[warm delta]

Its either gem lv or stated on the equipment

[graceful drum]

ohhh okay

[warm delta]

Only if you care about your toes

[graceful drum]

can you send a picture of the skill's description?

[crisp latch]

it was working perfectly fine yesterday

[ornate bluff]

but that only tells you the level of the skill gem right? I'm pretty sure (almost certain) that is not the level of the minions you summon

[crisp latch]

even if I had inflicted tons of freezes on a tanky mob recently, I could still get buildup

[plain osprey]

yeah gimme a minute

[graceful drum]

seems like it's just bugged, i cant find anything in the descriptions to indicate that it would stop being able to apply freeze altogether

[warm delta]

Theres global modifiers, yes, but that only shows when you do the "additional information" for a skill

It says it on the tin.

[crisp latch]

that's what I'm thinking, ty for confirmation. Unless suddenly random white and blue mobs were able to ignore any freeze buildup whatsoever, but it's not that. If I freeze something and consume the freeze, I can't freeze them again no matter how long I wait

[ornate bluff]

I think you're misunderstanding my question or you don't know that monsters can have different levels asscioated with them. I'm using a level 12 (including global gem modifiers from equipment), but if I'm looking on poe2db, level 12 skeleton arsonists have way way lower hp than I woudl expect, even after calculating for % increased life. Therefore, minions are summoned at a higher level than just gem level

[crisp latch]

it's not all of them, it's pretty random but it seems like every rare and unique at the very least, along with a random but noticeable handful of white and blue mobs

[peak leaf]

any autobomber srs pros here? got a question

[small crystal]

does anyone know if hourglass's 10 sec cooldown will still effect an ability that is being used in Cast on Shock?

[ornate bluff]

probably better off just asking the question, i do srs but not autobombing but might be able to help

[peak leaf]

my autobomber srs was working fine until i applied more gem slots in flame wall. now when my cast on minion death procs flame wall, said flame wall doesn't summon srs

[warm delta]

• Theres no datamining for this game (all server side), poe2db can be wrong
• yes. I showed you the gem states level modifiers. What it wont show is whether you have passives or items that modify winion stats, just the base stat.

[silent prawn]

you should use CoMD with the energy gain support and Flamewall
anything else is not necessary

[warm delta]

And you can doublecheck in "additional info" under the skill.

[ornate bluff]

There was definitely datamining. That information is wrong sorry

[native widget]

lmao

[warm delta]

Thats fine, we're debating facts not each other. Poedb has been wrong in the past, for long technical reasons. Datamining doesnt actually exist. The lore:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3206104/page/2

If you know what a hexeditor is, then we can skip most of this and say much of the data is server side. So no file to load into your hexeditor.

I prefer xxd or wxedit, which hex editor do you prefer?

[chrome stone]

Is anyone trying out the acolyte monk? All I see is invokers

[ornate bluff]

Oh I believe that poedb can be wrong, I'm just saying there was definitely datamining

HxD

[quartz narwhal]

Checking in

[warm delta]

Sweet. So how do you hexedit a file you dont have access to, or that was put in a preload for testing and didnt make it into release on prod?

[silent prawn]

I started one recently 😄
chaos spells

[ornate bluff]

If we didn't datamine, explain how we had access to the entire skilltree (not just a mockup of compiled nodes they've revealed) that was proven to be accurate several hours before the game released?

[gilded cairn]

how does pathfinder feel in maps?

[chrome stone]

Is it any fun those who played it? Im getting close to my ascendency and I thought about going acolyte but no one is posting stuff about it haha

[warm delta]

All im saying, is to have the accurate files to datamine, means accessing game servers on prod, not deployed to dev, both are still inside their network and not on your PC

[daring grotto]

Isn’t there a way to pick up a passive node across the tree without traveling all the way over there? Like a one off thing

[quartz narwhal]

I think it's a little undercooked right now but I do really like into the breach for self sustain during boss fights

[warm delta]

Preloads exist. They get updated. Before deploying on prod you deploy on dev and have a preload for ppl to download. Sometimes they want them encrypted (think cyberpunk2077s gaffe), other times not

[quartz narwhal]

I'm just running generic spells until I figure out my mapping plan

[quartz narwhal]

Not until they add blight back

[modern basin]

what's the best anoint for grenade merc?

[plain osprey]

okay finally, so here's a visualization of my issue -

in the first image, i tagged attributes that boost Chaos spells/damage
in the second image, i tagged attributes that boost spells

now, since you (mostly?) need spells to do chaos damage except in niche circumstances, you would think that with an ascendancy that relies on chaos, and with a good amount of chaos attributes, you would have attributes that boost those very spells which deal chaos damage.

yet as you can see in the 2nd image, there are very little spell-benefitting attributes in the general region where those chaos-attributes are. which means you have a lot of attribute-travelling to do which means either a) you run a "conventional" levelling build and then spend a fuckton of gold on respeccing, or b) you bite the bullet and run a lot of +5 to any attribute nodes until you deal mediocre chaos-spell damage since there are not a lot of spell-boosting attributes

in essence, it seems very counter intuitive to have chaos-attributes but very little spell-attributes for an ascendancy that is entirely based around chaos

[warm delta]

This is how stale datamining works, bc when they change to prod different files will be used. If you had client-side for winion health the entire time, you could just lie and say your winion had over 9000 hp and 100% resistance, right?
Thats how CoD wallhacks used to work back in my day, never trust client side code

[warm delta]

Thank GOD the skilltrees are the same for all the classes lol

[plain osprey]

honestly yeah but it just doesn'T seem to make sense, unless i'm missing out some crucial information how acolyte monk is supposed to compete with chaos abilities

[quartz narwhal]

This has always been a problem with chaos dot builds

It's even worse since they removed generic dot scaling

[ornate bluff]

In that case, how do clients and servers get desynced? If the client is simply recieving information and not acting upon it (other than to display an image) then how can the game possible become desynced from what the server is calculating? The answer is that it would not be able to, and that there IS some calculations done on your pc. Therefore, the data has to exist with which to make that calculation.

[plain osprey]

not really since Witch for example has much easier access to chaos AND spell attributes making her a very reasonable user of chaos abilities, without chaos-focused ascendancies where as the monk with his acolyte ascendancy which is entirely around chaos has very little of such attributes to access, does that make sense?

[hallow laurel]

So attacks with any crossbow ammo are tied to the same keybind, do socketed support gems for the crossbow shot stack with other gems on the ammo?

[silent prawn]

except for the Starting nodes

[warm delta]

I agree 100! If you saw my skill tree from earlier, its all over the place!

I do notice most of the chaos dmg skills are between 11 and 4 o'clock...except for dark entriees (+1 to all chaos skills) 😭

[deep swift]

What’s the best support gems for a sorceress lightning build for the skills arc (4 slots), spark (5 slots), and mana tempest (5 slots) ?

[quartz narwhal]

Witch has one extra cluster of chaos damage on her start and otherwise you still have the exact same travel problem

[ornate bluff]

If you don't believe me, feel free to look up information on how this actually works, there is absolutely data sent to you that is essentially 'what actually happened' to prevent you from just doing whatever you wanted, but the game is also running it's own calculations on your pc, it's just that the server doesn't just blindly act on the data that you send back.

[silent prawn]

just wondering, do the 5% cold /lightning from the start effect the Dot?

[whole yew]

Do meta skills gain anything from level?

[brazen hatch]

does anyone know if attack speed shortens the time of charging up snipe?

[plain osprey]

witch has a decent bit more chaos attributes in her "natural" skilltree path compared to the monk regarding spells

[warm delta]

Position and action taken, but the math isnt on your end. If youre genuinely curious, theres a whole Defcon talk about this, also youtube videos.

[cloud path]

anybody gotta good socr build that shreds ? ive tried ice and its ass xDD

[quartz narwhal]

I agree regarding spells. Nothing about monk is spell based at all

But it's not supposed to be

[plain osprey]

it seems completely backwards, unless a LOT of chaos abilities are not in game yet

[quartz narwhal]

I assume we will get more

[warm delta]

No thanks. I already necro'd a thread from dataminers explaining why poedb is stale/inaccurate. i just tried to do the curteosy to explain to you what they said 🤷

[quartz narwhal]

But imo chayula monk works best as a poison class not a chaos spell class

You just have a side benefit of generic damage additive on anything you do

[silent prawn]

just to add my 2 cents. branching out of the general class gamplay always comes with the cost of long travel.
I planned on PoE2DB and was able to get 334% chaos dmg from the tree and I think 134% Spelldmg
aftert that still had some points to spare