2┃build-planning

[static plinth]

ES first

[dawn spire]

"Increased block chance" is additive, so you'd start with 0% chance and add 59%, at least in Poe1 terminology

[thick thunder]

wait so do slams use both your weapons if you are DW'ing?

[royal badge]

Ok ya we're onthe same page

[earnest sparrow]

can we queue before launch on steam? or only official client

[livid hamlet]

you can on official client

i think it's after patch now

i'm in queue

[static plinth]

Does anyone have ideas on how to maintain Charge Infusion?

[livid hamlet]

oh i misread sorry

[earnest sparrow]

yea but can we do queue on steam though lol

[static plinth]

Specifically the Power/Frenzy ones

[orchid talon]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/armour-breaker-warbringer

[lofty grotto]

https://strawpoll.com/ajnE187ljnW
Chat: Let the more popular win 🙏

[keen tartan]

Why go for the Blood Magic node that converts mana to life costs? You already get this on the blood mage ascendancy tree.

[dusty bear]

heralds lost their buffs?

[torpid sage]

Not sure if this is something people can answer, but is there a ratio of dmg - defensive nodes i should look at? I'm planning on playing witch hunter and embracing grenades/shotgun/machinegun as much as I can

[frigid hill]

yea

[dusty bear]

they don't do anything except the on kill effects anymore?

holy shit

[frigid hill]

they're like utility now

[snow sierra]

So he dont have to pay mana

[dusty bear]

feels weird

[dawn spire]

And the heralds only benefit attacks last time I checked

[lofty fox]

Playing witch, The three white dots going left give me 3 points of +5 any attribute, (I'm trying to get to those 4 yellow ones in the middle.) The 3 white dots on the right give me energy shield stuff. Which do you guys think is smarter to start with? New poe player not really sure. Also trying to go no-minion build. Thanks

[static plinth]

Wait, Plague Bearer Bleed Build?

[frigid hill]

u can grab Attrition if u want to get damage with hits

[raven violet]

last minute builds, whats everyone going lmao

[burnt cypress]

do you count as "not on low energy shield" if you have NO energy shield? hmmmmmmmmm

[dawn spire]

In general, at least in Poe1, it was ideal to maximize the number of notables (big nodes) and minimize the number of small nodes you take.

[keen dagger]

https://pastebin.com/raw/zfmgKZJh
Anyone have input on trigger monk

[keen tartan]

Blood mage ascendancy doesn't remove the mana cost?

[lofty fox]

Gonna try no minion crit blood mage haha, first time player I might fail HARD.

[static plinth]

It does not

[dusty bear]

either molten blast or cold ignite infernalist

[static plinth]

You need either Blood Magic or Lifetap Support

[snow sierra]

you have to pay mana and life as bloodmage

[dusty bear]

chat pick for me

[frigid hill]

i believe in u

[lofty fox]

Oh really? Regardless of what it is? Just take the fastest route possible?

[orchid talon]

there still a lot of Ascendancies that are not in the game plus skill gems so several build won't work until full release

[haughty root]

doubt it, just like having max 1 hp doesn't count for low hp

[burnt cypress]

but that still has 1 hp, with NO energy shield you have... none, its not even a stat present

[dawn spire]

Notables have the highest power, so pathing to as many notables as possible was generally the strongest approach, yes. If you can cut small nodes to get enough points to get another good notable, it's almost always an improvement

There are exceptions, but that's the rule of thumb in poe1

[dusty bear]

xdd

[bronze crane]

i think GGG is on fire

[lofty fox]

Okay thanks for the tip! Well more specifically that far left yellow dot in the middle is spell damage, the one going right is MORE energy shield lol, I'm thinking I want to get the damage first but probably gonna feel out what I need more at the time. (If the games as tough as people claim it to be.)

[lyric tulip]

I am ready 😈

[frigid hill]

pen doesnt go negative anymore

[native widget]

😭 i hope you are joking

[frigid hill]

sorry to say

[livid hamlet]

Do we know if there will be a Cast on Death Meta Gem :^) ?

[native widget]

Because all that is going to waste

[worldly wolf]

Would CI be worth it?

[orchid talon]

bosses are hard take a lot of extra gear a points

[warped jackal]

depends, what build do you want to do

[orchid talon]

if crit is in the Ascendancies then yes

[worldly wolf]

Havent decide yet. I would most likely be going for witch infernalist necromancer I am looking at all the notables and pathing my skill tree.

but i am not sure if infernalist is viable for minion

[thick pecan]

I just mapped out a tree with all the good minion stuff

[orchid talon]

unless you can get lots of spirit with gear minion is going to be so hard to level

[lofty fox]

I'm trying to see if witch with no minions can work, well I know it can work, more if I can make it work lmao

[thick pecan]

Sure it can

[warped jackal]

i think CI is good for chonk or infernalist, and what i have seen here and online is that infernalist is viable for minions

[thick pecan]

I’d just rather go storm weaver prob

[lyric tulip]

I have room to take off a little lightning pen, will see if needed

[dawn spire]

Yeah there are a lot of unknowns. I'm not banking on energy shield to be very useful at low levels. Recharging it is going to be way slower compared to poe1.

I don't know what the best approach will be, but I don't know if any of the routes are going to be immensely helpful for survival in the first few levels.

Depending on enemy life/defense, the best route might be damage to kill them before they kill you. If we somehow get lots of skills early and need attributes to use them, attribute rushing might be good. If we get lots of es on gear, then the es nodes might pay off.

[native widget]

you gonna need to take a LOT off

lmfao

[thick pecan]

Or blood mage. But if the pyro pact and demon form are good then that’s a path too

[mental mauve]

Does poison stack or is it like ignite only the higest dmg dealing one does the actual dmg?

[lofty fox]

Gonna be a lot of people failing today lol

[dawn spire]

Poison has a default stack size of one

But can get more with investment

[lofty fox]

Yeah I'm trying blood mage personally.

[torpid sage]

How do I build as van helsing?

[mental mauve]

from the tree or were there uniques in poe1 used for that?

[static plinth]

Is Dark Effigy the only spell totem we have so far?

[static plinth]

In 1, poison stacked infinitely

[thick pecan]

Here’s my tree map showing ONLY stuff that buffs minions, like life crit revive resist dmg

[orchid talon]

blood mage is strong monk is S+ tier

[static plinth]

In 2 its 1 stack, you can get more from the tree, supports, and unique items

[burnt cypress]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcBgq9HdoqE1jwwCM45SiWqAgWYfe5j4W4tmLhJu56hnBo7AHQheXzO2NOVwjW0FImgRV8BY9XZdHI4jDjQEjUI0Ti0TZOuQoCR_DWqfOngqSevEtxKZA3vYcKOG7XaxoD01dqLtAg1_y3YSNv5dyJ1bImNxdmcaRlxL5RW8xYc7RLyiq9c1BFoPQJ-lIUKEqg4G--a5_C1FnkDxPeXyFJZZJF8kperBgquveCiBZk9pogYeganSb2os16oHAjE0zNTnBNDrDJsGr3qkc-FyBDHtiShL-pt4bCEelWvK_CL91RAuzubHsptGRAB-vtlabxjn7JAFX2ZJBxOIqP9FZayZBIyUv-FAAA=

electric caster build w/ MoM

[lofty grotto]

frost bros where you at

[hoary plover]

you can drop 4 attrubute nodes in the top center

[thin basin]

ez (or something)

[mental mauve]

ahh ok

[static plinth]

Do y'all think i can get a power charge every 0.2 seconds

[burnt cypress]

flicker? lol

[royal badge]

Dumb q: When Molten Blast explodes on a target, it does 1 hit from the AoE right? It's not a projectile hit and then an aoe hit?

[frigid hill]

how many points?

[static plinth]

Potential Support

[orchid talon]

In PoE 2, the Spirit mechanic is now your resource for summoning Minions.

Spirit is a new resource that you reserve for effects such as auras or in the Witch’s case, summoning minions. As you level up, obtain better gear, do quests, and more, you’ll have a larger pool of Spirit to summon a larger army.

In the image above, you’ll see your Spirit bar just above the mana bar.

[warped jackal]

Its chonk time

[pearl sluice]

what does gemlings additional skill slots do?

[static plinth]

Exactly what it says, lets you use 3 more skills

Gems are no longer socketed in items

[pearl sluice]

whats the max?

[mental mauve]

poison took the L in poe2 I guess

[burnt cypress]

some1 check my MoM storm build https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgcBgq9HdoqE1jwwCM45SiWqAgWYfe5j4W4tmLhJu56hnBo7AHQheXzO2NOVwjW0FImgRV8BY9XZdHI4jDjQEjUI0Ti0TZOuQoCR_DWqfOngqSevEtxKZA3vYcKOG7XaxoD01dqLtAg1_y3YSNv5dyJ1bImNxdmcaRlxL5RW8xYc7RLyiq9c1BFoPQJ-lIUKEqg4G--a5_C1FnkDxPeXyFJZZJF8kperBgquveCiBZk9pogYeganSb2os16oHAjE0zNTnBNDrDJsGr3qkc-FyBDHtiShL-pt4bCEelWvK_CL91RAuzubHsptGRAB-vtlabxjn7JAFX2ZJBxOIqP9FZayZBIyUv-FAAA=

[worldly wolf]

Is life recoup worth it

[haughty root]

I'm under the impression all those energy shield nodes won't work with EB

[worldly wolf]

for witch

[pearl sluice]

whats the cap number of skills?

[burnt cypress]

noooooooooooooo

[north sorrel]

If you have CI and a skill is supported by lets say Extraction, sacrifice 10% of you maximum life on use, it doesn't kill you or am I mistaken 😄

[haughty root]

I would love to be wrong though

[keen dagger]

Do we know if skills like Invoker's Elemental Expression are affected by the supports in the skill that triggered it?

[burnt cypress]

same looks so busted if it does work tbf lol

[trim nexus]

for mercenary ascension do i go gemling legionnare/witchhunter? this is my first arpg ive only been playing fps games so what would yall recommend

[dawn spire]

They shouldn't be. They'll be able to have their own support gems tho

[burnt cypress]

mine has 390% increase to ES lol just nutty

[haughty root]

Yeah, energy shield regen turning into mana regen with MoM seems a bit too good

[dawn spire]

Regen or recharge?

[burnt cypress]

i figured that wouldnt work so i only took flat increase to ES for the conversion

[frigid hill]

if u want to play with a crossbow, witchhunter would be my suggestion

[static plinth]

Not sure, probably around 5 or 6

[thin basin]

GGG where spiritual aid

[haughty root]

Well both would be really good, the max increase ones as well.

[orchid talon]

i really want a minion build but with only 3 acts and quest give you extra spirit i don't see it working out

[thin basin]

make me feel less sad for specting these minion dmg nodes

[hidden siren]

what was more important in poe1, evasion or armor?

[static plinth]

Can i reduce the attack time of Plasma Blast below 2 seconds or is the +2 to total attack time after attack speed modifiers?

[burnt cypress]

indeed, fingers crossed

[frigid hill]

after

[crude fiber]

guys how the fak monks die'd most in poe2 test

[pallid knoll]

Frost bomb has rather high dmg... and it seems to work with spell echo. Thinking it could be something nice for a chronomancer? 33% chance to reset, 20% slow and recoup nodes. Should probably get some less duration to make it feel smooth.

[dawn spire]

Are we not getting more scaling from cruel difficulty? That's how it worked in earlier poe1 but I'm not sure

[static plinth]

Not really how it works. Both were good if you built into them or useless if you didnt

[haughty root]

I've been brewing based on the same premise https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1314607023211413515 just skipping most energy shield nodes

[velvet blade]

Seems like they removed all instances of guaranteed crits except for sunder :(

[modern tangle]

melee character that doesn't stack str for early life. And no shield with qstaff

[graceful stag]

yeah they dont they're not using poe 1 conversion rules it only applies to the final stuff now

so all the extra mana will just be ES from ur gear

[static plinth]

Snipe?

[velvet blade]

Oh yeah, snipe too.

[viscid spade]

Yeah, that’s my point. I’m planning on running eye of winter even on my bonestorm just because I imagine it procs crit debuff much faster then reap ever could

[burnt cypress]

sadge

[velvet blade]

Was just excited to use the freeze or mantra ones

Might have been too strong

[viscid spade]

But it’s going to be strong regardless

[frigid hill]

the guaranteed freeze crit is gone? dang

[thick pecan]

So what is base crit chance that gets scaled? I assume a 20% node doesn’t mean I have 20% crit

[pearl sluice]

Hello is only source of spell leech from Blood Mage? Ty.

[crude fiber]

@modern tangle but he is dex more and int hmm keeping distances not enouth?

[viscid spade]

20% is 20% more of the base crit

[sleek depot]

Is there a max on VD count in PoE 2?

[velvet blade]

No, base crit is on skills

[static plinth]

If Reap still gets Cascade overlaps it'll be pretty pog

Otherwise, its kinda dinky now

[viscid spade]

So if you have 15% base crit, and 100% crit chance, that’s 30% crit

[frigid hill]

im operating on not much sleep, not following u

[modern tangle]

int and dex don't help survivability by default. Remember the tests focused on early acts too.

[sleek depot]

No diamond flask tho :(

[royal badge]

Is this capped at 75% damage from 75% block chance? Or can I overcap block chance%?

[viscid spade]

Dexterity gives you evasion rating

[modern tangle]

[modern tangle]

not in poe2 it doesn't

[crude fiber]

@modern tangle still going for it i see just to must fun i bet fixable in midle game

[thick pecan]

Do minions have a base crit chance? I don’t see it on the gem tip

[frigid hill]

i might be wrong but i believe it would have said uncapped block, see Unnatural Resistance

[royal badge]

Thanks I'll take a look

[dawn spire]

Minion skills not having enough information? Some things never change

[viscid spade]

It’s just base accuracy now?

[royal badge]

Ok cool. So I just need 56.25% increased block chance from tree + Glancing Blows to hit 75% block chance. (24% block buckler)

[modern tangle]

Yeah. They're not entirely happy with that but they don't really like other options either.

[lofty fox]

in poe2 what exactly does int give?

[viscid spade]

Mana

[thick pecan]

Like if they have base 5% and 20% nodes are really just giving 1% crit chance, meh

[viscid spade]

Also know as life with MoM

[sage anchor]

Anyone considering Titan minions? Looking at small passives right now seems like they'll give +90% minion damage and +60% minion life (plus all the rest)

[viscid spade]

Makes sense since evasion is both spell and hits, would be far too busted

[frigid hill]

once again, block from tree is flat%, block on shield modifies the shield's base block

[haughty root]

"Intelligence is an Attribute required to use most equipment that grants Energy Shield, as well as various spell-aligned Weapons and Skills.

Every 1 Intelligence grants +2 Mana. Intelligence does not grant damage to Skills or any other benefits except where specifically stated."

[keen tartan]

Whats the interaction between Blood Mages Life Remnants overflow, and the Zealots Oath passive node look like? Will picking up a life orb prioritize overflowing life, or filling ES?

[crude fiber]

yep all % from ur base

[frigid hill]

so u dont need glancing (imo not a good keystone)

[paper raft]

Anyone have a helpful link to the classes? I don’t wanna watch a YouTube video, just want to read up on what we know. Still don’t know which class to go with

[wraith pasture]

guys, i'm trying to decide between stormweaver and airbender monk for aoe elemental gameplay... thoughts between the 2?

[lofty fox]

Ok thanks

[viscid spade]

What appeals to you the most

[calm kite]

Is this an okay acolyte archmage build ?
Ps its my first build so i might have missed some useful nodes, any advice will help 🙂
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgoDVUYDBUPDskmKuPAOxSh8zvStN9fsNGOFWHMnxSV_vWfmCZA5Qi_dfbegOa_UIDaTbsNMhrOjlWF-zPAfbf2fyh3h3fGK6JK7aDhu79tV4AyzKI4P22PV2XRyOOCpJ5PGQ0ub8xbKn9guQ2DSyHdbEGum8O0NCM45SiWqAgWYfeFu3meFCufwtRZ5A6694KJy-A_da2MFmT2mtiTqbeGwhHpVrwKYLfuzXnoGAAA=

[undone nexus]

mobalytics has a planner btw

[sage anchor]

with incorrect nodes

[paper raft]

Still could be any of them except warrior and ranger. All the others look amazing

[viscid spade]

Why don’t you take the top of the tree

%int as lighting

[north sorrel]

If you have CI and a skill is supported by lets say Extraction, sacrifice 10% of you maximum life on use, it doesn't kill you or?

[calm kite]

where exactly ?

[north sorrel]

And you still do get the bonus?

[viscid spade]

You can’t sacrifice

[exotic night]

What skills you playing with

[north sorrel]

tnx

[viscid spade]

The lighting nodes at the top of the tree

[thick pecan]

I think for all out caster you want archmage and if you want archmage you want stormweaver

[viscid spade]

Also what skill do you plan on using

[keen tartan]

Alright, roast me:

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgECgh3oIN91pefOW3jN372nZw-vR9uYJQ3tDabwByKYfeFuEWghqD0Chj-fT1Qk0teB5tdASrVsCjTm4uq-hn6UvrUVfVcStuNoOufiC9EUwnFR7-uzPfTVtdrai_LJtAg1_3021PlWfbhACczDuH_p7vtS_d9aFKToIV2DylWXTG87jDjZdGPVXmUXvygClN8NkN1AKJ6FCufwtRbE95fIwM19wm1ixX7afVgex2xYWDk-PTfjt7ifSBAa2HW9yiWEk_JSMK77K0T3d_D26RryNMHui-M6BHdz1MMSuztUQC3dmNsr8NQQleCgkYx-oS_ZLLIBCnD6FBd44vAQa-jT8s_fFgA0AAA=

[viscid spade]

I’m not telling you what to do, but if you do go archmage, I would go sorceress for the mana and shock effect

[silent prawn]

can't sacrifice or reserve health with CI

[viscid spade]

Arcane surge is going to be huge, especially if you want to go Mind of Matter

[livid hamlet]

Well with Archmage you can just proc Arcane surge easily from support

[haughty root]

Betting on it

[livid hamlet]

100% of mana every 8 seconds

probably won't be that hard to do

[viscid spade]

You aren’t hitting 100

So take of 10 points

[native widget]

i dont understand

[thick pecan]

Stormweaver you just get surge

[native widget]

why is lightning conduit not supported by spell echo?

[viscid spade]

Permanent uptime with 150% effect

[royal badge]

Did I cook? This is Molten Blast Deadeye that hits (24%*1.56)x2=75% block chance + tons of evasion.
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgIBdw-T8BWlsLcGLwEAHnSvFrk2BMIb7rLpBYyTdJO9EUwOJ0XEmHFANddIdFkLpx3YhexZbZJTIPmQjD0vWPQAhN9nQC4x1sjtP17fWY9yPojjT74UuQ1nqEoyWulcCWgaiIHdfK4RtkW-yZZJj8GJsn39U4tMd-cqnUBpgR0S7EU-LjLincZrvbhoojgEpQr-mEBktu5J62FatUJC3peeS1guzM5kUBjd5pFkxKYUa0YjhZl1v3i5Q6SdNKj_--y2YBCO-owPkVYpj8iFHJF8Nt2M5oQ4uj0lAHz34v3B-fgmbtIdzK6jyhcaIbIfUV8AAA==

[livid hamlet]

Oh i agree it's very strong

[viscid spade]

Yes

[keen tartan]

Not able to get to 100 in EA?

[livid hamlet]

BUT if you don't want to go Stormweaver

for example because like me you are an utter lunatic that wants to try archmage bleed blood mage

[bold raft]

You can
But it takes time.
Much better to plan for 90 points and then update as you level up

[viscid spade]

You can, but if you are new, no

[livid hamlet]

You should be able to sustain arcane surge through support

[undone nexus]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/profile/596f6285-89a6-40ae-981c-bf5f36749f4e/builds/2ac09ab7-57c9-4ec7-8327-e0d24bdb2425 my minion tree so far

[keen tartan]

Sure, fair enough. Just making sure the build makes sense though. Something to aim towards in any case?

[lofty fox]

If I'm playing a caster witch with no minions, why would I want increased physical damage? Anyone know?

[turbid sable]

Can you not change your ascendancy option in poe2 unlike poe1?

[viscid spade]

It’s not only sustaining, mom cutting your mana regen as well as taking damage you need really buff it and not be turned off the moment you get hit

[hexed shadow]

what ascendancies look good for minions besides infernalist

[static plinth]

For physical spells? That wouldnt affect minions anyway

[calm kite]

this ?

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgoDVUYDBUPDskmKuPAOxSh8zvStN9fsNGOFWHMnxSV_vWfmCZA5Qi_dfbegOa_UIDaTbsNMhrOjlWF-zPAfbf2fyh3h3fGK6JK7aDhu79tV4AyzKI4P22PV2XRyOOCpJ5PGQ0ub8xbKn9guQ2DSyHdbEGum8O0NCM45SiWqAgWYfeFu3meFCufwtRZ5A6694KJy-A_da2MFmT2mtiTqbeGwhHpVrwKYLfuzXnoGAAA=

[bold raft]

People have been saying gemling or titan

[livid hamlet]

I would also probably go shaper of winter rather that shock effect

for a more defensive setup

but that's just me

[hasty crystal]

hey guys opinions on bloodmage vs witch hunter dont know which one to go for

[lofty fox]

I'm not sure which spells will be physical, I definitely wanna focus on blood/bone and stuff if there's enough of them in the game. Not sure if those are physical though.

[orchid talon]

you can have two weapon type on weapons and with different elements on skill tree for weapon swap

[livid hamlet]

Or even the storm skill from Stormweaver

[static plinth]

They're all phys. Reap, Exsanguinate, Bone Cage, Bonestorm, Bone Blast, and Unearth are what we have rn i think

[lofty fox]

I see, okay good to know! Hell yeah

[lofty grotto]

oh https://poe2db.tw/ has all weapon skills, but they haven't updated their links, but if you manualy write adress, it will show you move itself

cheeky

[haughty root]

What does magnitude affect for shock? Just buffuing the 20% Increased damage?

[lofty grotto]

like https://poe2db.tw/Emergency_Reload

[calm kite]

Sent you the old link mb, i just picked that up and "Electric Amplification" is that fine ?

[hasty crystal]

hey guys opinions on bloodmage vs witch hunter dont know which one to go for

[livid hamlet]

Witch hunter feels safer tbh

it's a pretty boring ascendancy

[orchid talon]

The simple example GGG showcased is with the Sorceress. With the Dual Specialisation Tree, you can allocate points to both Lightning and Cold Damage. As you weapon swap, the tree fitting your Skill Gem will automatically be used.https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/guides/dual-specialisation

[livid hamlet]

that just gives you a lot of strength

[hasty crystal]

sounds good thank you

[livid hamlet]

What do you want to play ?

You should match the ascendancy to the playstyle rather then other way around

If you're new to this game

[hasty crystal]

very indecided haha equally both witch hunter seems a bit easier

[lofty grotto]

Mercenery/Crossbow will be clunky as fuck for the first ~30 levels

[livid hamlet]

Then you can even level as melee

[pallid knoll]

Do you guys think spell echo works with frost bomb?

[thick pecan]

Can use bow and lightning arrow with rod

[viscid spade]

Do you know what skill you wanna go?

[livid hamlet]

Or even maybe just bow if you want to go crossbows later

in fact Witchhunter just feels like a bit slower but overall stronger deadeye

and not even that much slower with the explosions

so i would probably go witch hunter even for bows

Hell it's pretty great for everything, even for spells

[lofty grotto]

you can use anything you want, you are just limited by str/dex/int requiements

[thick pecan]

Donno about that. Deadeye with grenades good too

Extra proj

[livid hamlet]

yeah that's true

[viscid spade]

You also might as well go all in on CI if you are doing MoM and ES

[livid hamlet]

But the explosions with cullting strike setup

sound extra juicy tbh

[thick pecan]

And tailwind for speed

[calm kite]

no and yes, i saw another archmage acolytes skills but haven't fully run through it yet

[livid hamlet]

We don't know of any other on death pops in the game right now

[merry temple]

Hi, what's the best POE2 Skill Planner?

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/planner/builds looks awesome but its a shitty little window

[signal sleet]

Does anyone have something cooked for Chayula Monk? I want to play but have zero Ideas in what direction i could go with it

[lofty grotto]

👀

[livid hamlet]

Biggest strength of Chayula monk honestly feels the instant mana and ES leech nodes

but we don't know how easy mana leech will be to get

so it's hard to say

[half ingot]

int stack, tempest, lightning dmg, gl, its gonna be op

[half ingot]

very easy, just get into breach asc

[livid hamlet]

Outside of that you can just go easter eggs and chaos damage and it will work decently with anything

[late osprey]

is eb gonna be in ea?

[livid hamlet]

yeah but that's not as reliable

as having leech from attacks

[half ingot]

have u seen the gameplay of into braech? there are flames verywhere

its not poe1 where u hop from mob to mob anyways, so it will work decently

[worldly wolf]

how long is the delay of curses for whispers of doom

[livid hamlet]

Yeah but in that case with 7%/14% per egg

[tall timber]

so i'm looking around for a skill with big cooldown that i could use with chronomancer, and is there anything better than hammer of the gods? would hammer chronomancer be a stupid idea?

[fiery pendant]

have we seen anything resembling spiritual aid?

[livid hamlet]

instant isn't as important

[half ingot]

I am also looking for a more reliable source of leeching mana/life with attack ele dmg

[livid hamlet]

yeah if we have that

Then instant ES leech

will be pretty great

[half ingot]

if we dont I will have to rethink my whole build

[half ingot]

I am going gem leg

[half ingot]

thats very potent

50% more life

[olive veldt]

Anyone got a good monk build?

[native widget]

seems to be anti synergy with bloodmage

i dont know who else would want this tho

[livid hamlet]

that's pretty brave

That feels like starting ascendant

as your first ever char

[calm kite]

I'm making my own monk build but i don't think its good

[lusty oasis]

Guys, do I go glacial cascade invoker or ice strike + shattering palm invoker?

[tender frost]

do we know how pen / exposure / curses works with invoker res ignore? does the res 'reductions' applied by those 3 apply before or after invoker ignores the positive res?

[real hornet]

from what I can tell, you're basically forced to use eldritch battery to use mind over matter...

[livid hamlet]

unarmed is not well supported right now

per GGG

[static plinth]

Before

[lusty oasis]

ooooh ok so def not shattering palm lol

[livid hamlet]

it may still work as a clear skill

but probably stave skills are more tested and worked on

[lusty oasis]

GC it is

I'm gonna try single stat build too. I don't think I want to mess with weapon swap stuff.

[fathom inlet]

I want to play a pretty strong, accurate bowman that has some hitback when he hits his enemies. only 2-3 projectiles fired each shot . I also want a slow effect, but I also want them to be ignited and begin to burn.

When I swap off my bow, Id like to focus on freezing all my enemise around me with another attack, but not one that goes too far. A limited-range AOE ice attack that's pretty strong.

can some1 help me with my idea?

[heavy pagoda]

Can contagion trigger withering touch?

[half ingot]

titan, warbringer. Blood mage could definitely use it if she goes with more defensive nodes

[woven otter]

Are all of the skills known right now?

[real hornet]

meanwhile all the blood mages are gonna rush for the blood magic node lol

[tall timber]

okay i guess there's also barrage chronomancer, besides that and hammer i didn't find any big cooldown skills. am i missing something good with a cooldown?

[native widget]

yea

[real hornet]

which is like waaaaaaaay over to the left

[hidden siren]

am i the only one that thinks flask ranger is a pretty lame ascendancy

[half ingot]

Probably lol. Its either gonna be busted or its gonna be bricked since we dont know what ggg has in store.

[real hornet]

bloodmage just seems really tanky ngl with the overflow and the chestplate

[half ingot]

depends on unique items

[frail jay]

Flask Ranger is a design from PoE1 that works in PoE1 because falsks are cool and strong in PoE1

[real hornet]

and the built in progenesis

[static plinth]

It seems mid as hell, besides the double attribute bonuses which seems practically broken

[native widget]

ok, so theres spirit mods on both amulet and body armor

[livid hamlet]

I think poison conconction will be pretty good

[static plinth]

Quality is about as strong as it was in 1

[livid hamlet]

but it remains to see

[serene lotus]

Which class shows the potential, witch or merc?

[native widget]

seems like it would give enough even without spectre

[serene lotus]

Most

[half ingot]

its actually the most overloaded ascendancy in the game

[frail jay]

double support gems is VERY good too, there are some insane support gems like spell echo, increase limit, second wind

[lofty fox]

Is it possible to go over 100% crit?

[keen dagger]

Do we have anything like Inevitable Crit in PoE1?

[frail jay]

romira's banquet

[native widget]

yo do you know why lightning conduit is not supported by spell echo?

[woven otter]

Debating going something super simple until first cool unique then build around that

[static plinth]

True

[fiery pendant]

how are we feeling for crit/accuracy on minions?

[real hornet]

blood mage and witchhunter seem the strongest classes at first look imo

[fathom inlet]

Would there be any build for an archer/ranger that spends most of his time precise aiming at targets, but also has zombies he can let wear stuff away?

[keen dagger]

Do projectile skills consume the crit increase on cast, or on hit?

[royal badge]

Ok I made a 72 point version of my Glancing Blows Molten Blast Deadeye:
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgIBUA-T8BWlsLcGLwEAHnSvFrk2BMIb7rLpBYyTvRFMDidFxJhxQFkLpx3YhexZbZJTIPmQjD30AITfLjHWyO0_WY9yPojjT75FvtfrMlrpXAloGoiB3XyuEbZJj8GJsn39UyqdQGm9uGiiOASlCkBktu5J62FaQt6XnktYLszOZFAY3eaFmXW_VimPyIUckXzi_cH5-CZu0h3MrqPKFxohsh8AAA==

[keen dagger]

e.g. could I stack it up and then do a bunch of slow projectiles or does the crit not snapshot

[eternal meadow]

Anyone knows if "skill speed" includes ammo reload speed and weapon swap speed?

[real hornet]

poe2 coming out and me realizing how useful cluster jewels were in adding variety to a game

[frail jay]

?

[fathom inlet]

POE has always been ahead of its time in game design D

[half ingot]

hover over it in game, it will say. I think its atatck, cast and maybe 1 more type of speed

[native widget]

yeah i cant find spell echo in lightning conduit's supported sup gem on poe2db

[left grail]

I wonder if plague bearer nova can be scaled with %inc phys damage or if it's unmodifiable damage like the current one.

[native widget]

a mistake?

[real hornet]

even if I personally disliked clusters with how annoying they could be, it was still nice for them to exist

[hardy anchor]

is coc still in the game?

[real hornet]

what if since deli is still in the game, those jewel nodes give cluster trees, I would laugh

[half ingot]

having 90% res for every bossfight is broken as hell, it doesnt look like its gonan be easy to get it in poe2

[frail jay]

that does seem weird, there's no reason it shouldn't support it

[real hornet]

lightning conduit never worked with spell echo

[half ingot]

then theres gem quallity which can probably break few skill gems I feel like

[frail jay]

It's 90% res on one node right? (12 * 5)/4?

[eternal meadow]

It says, according to poe2db, "attack speed, cast speed, warcry speed and SIMILAR STATS". That last part I find bit ambiguous

[woven otter]

Is dual wield a node or everyone can?

[frail jay]

or wait 15% max res total

so 80%

[half ingot]

yes, but guess what, u can just change ur gems before bossifght

[errant hinge]

Hi there. Im new to POE overall and plan to play Bloodmage. Is there any preferance in my Weapon-Type besides the skills I can get access to?

[real hornet]

uniques

[hazy oasis]

Anyone doing Ball Lighting Archmage?

[half ingot]

so if u r informed on dmg types he do, u will just not take any dmg from him during the fight

[slender fern]

Bloodmage is like necromancer?

or infernalist

[half ingot]

I see

[warped jackal]

I have this so far: https://poe2skills.com/share?data=N4IgdghgtgpiBcIByMDuACAQgVwJYBsATEAGhACM8iEBtUAZwGsD8ERCIAnR9GAMz64A5gE9SIetgAOUgPacALvVogIhQjELoAxgAsIs+ug5QIQuGT6dDC9GBgAPbMoC6AXxINm+Von1gtWT4dfRFsfAhxSRl5JRVteWt6XFkwEHdPCW9fEAUYKCkYeltyGB8o6TlFZXgaMHD8DK8WNgSwBTMUtLJoqrjakFwCmADcMCFjWVkodI9m8sRyCPopXXyxHsrYmpomrJbEDRWIXE4KmOqVNYd0JamZvaYDkGuliGLzvp32GG0IETGE2us0yTwWIAAbuF7JwIOQCLgFBsJFtLrVHtk2KhdKd8ID0O96BBwgpPtsVKZIOh8DBfrpxGoNFoEkRjNAzBYQFASbgpDT0HJcPRUuJKJxivi+WZsHB3O4gA

But idk if its good. my first time playing poe

[real hornet]

well blood can do necro things

[dawn belfry]

do we know how to gain charges, and if so how do we do it?

[real hornet]

but infernalist gives that spirit increase at a 25% life reserve thing

[half ingot]

inferlanist is probably cooler I think

[half ingot]

I wouldnt even take that

infernal hound is by far the most broken abillity in the game

[frail jay]

why not?

[errant hinge]

I plan to go burn build. / Dot

[slender fern]

infernalist demon form looks cool

[fiery pendant]

demon form unequips your weapons

[frail jay]

Works in poe1

[crude fiber]

handle regen and u ok

[slender fern]

Im going infernalist first

[dense pivot]

anyone cooked something for Invoker monk ?

[frail jay]

ya

[crude fiber]

i just made till lvl 31 tree will see latter on

[rapid marlin]

I want to play flicker invoker, anyone know how to get power charge?

[frail jay]

dm me if you want my BL trigger invoker build

[lusty topaz]

What happend with "Online version 2" ? It was working few hours ago before i want for a nap lol https://poe2db.tw/us/Passive_Skill_Tree

[half ingot]

I am waiting for skyforths to drop XD

[rapid marlin]

so u get power charge by item?

[left grail]

Do I understand correctly that ailments now effectively get calculated as "base damage" * "modifiers to base damage" * "modifiers to ailment magnitude"?

So 100% more chaos damage on a pure chaos hit would give me 100% more poison damage, 100% more poison magnitude would do the same, and 50% more chaos + 50% more poison would be 125% more total?

[worldly wolf]

how does minion attacks work? for e.g I equipped Skeletal Storm Mage. Without command, what would be the damage of my minion mages?

[native zinc]

ian sounds right

i think pioson is 25% of the hit though

[half ingot]

there surely will be some items that do that, u can do it via skills, 2

[left grail]

yeah, was talking about non-inherent modifiers, sorry

[rapid marlin]

which skill btw?

[maiden karma]

Rage's attack damage should increase the damage of ailments now, right?

[half ingot]

first palm skill u get

then shocking palm skill u get, that consumes shock on enemy and gives u a power charge

there are options

[rapid marlin]

I see

[livid cradle]

do we know if ignites dmg is calculated on the final hit pre mitigation or post mitigation? (aka is fire pen a good link for ignite dmg)

[half ingot]

does sorc use power charges?

[half ingot]

idk sht about that, but what I do know is that enemy can only be ignited with 1 ignite at a time, so the most damaging ignite will be applied.

[left grail]

The thought process was that if Plague Bearer can be given enough damage multipliers, it might just generate more stored poison than what needs to be spend to generate that poison.

[real hornet]

everything is post mitigation unless said with pre, this is basic stuff for any game

[livid cradle]

basic stuff for any game? come on lmao

[real hornet]

yes, when in any game does anything work pre mitigation and not tell you

[trail lynx]

the ascendancies dont, but if the tree is similar to poe1 all caster builds would be encouraged to use power charges

[livid cradle]

bro theres no game like poe. it doesn't matter what other games do

[frail jay]

ailments are calculated from pre-mitigation damage

[half ingot]

I meant as in does she have skilsl that generate and consume pwoer charges? what are her generators?

[real hornet]

that is the most low effort response I've ever seen

[livid cradle]

ty

[hazy oasis]

Anyone doing Ball Lighting Archmage?

[livid cradle]

I mean you post some nonsense statement without anything to back it up. I didn't make a grand claim about gaming as a whole, you did

[frail jay]

no one is doing archmage

[trail lynx]

idk, we will see. i have only seen power charges on the monk in the trailers

[frail jay]

you have to kill pinnacle bosses to get archmage

it's a t14 gem

[real hornet]

and it will tell you this because of how resistance is factored after, to prevent double dipping

[pearl scroll]

The skill tree is so sick so many good options GGG did a fantastic job

[royal badge]

People, I have a crazy idea. What if I reduced projectile speed so much that Molten Blast + Fork created 3 overlapping AoE explosions. See example video on wiki. See how it explodes on ground impact?
https://poe2db.tw/us/Molten_Blast

[hazy oasis]

seriously

fucking stupid

[livid cradle]

yeah thats what made me doubt firepen would work. thx for the help kirvin & zevus

[pearl scroll]

you can literally make multiple variations of the same build just based on skill tree and skill gems even on same weapon type

its fucking sick

and have it still be good

so much better than poe1

[half ingot]

options are vast indeed

[real hornet]

and there is potential that clusters get added oddly enough

considering the jewel sockets are where clusters would be

[pearl scroll]

yeah of course they will later

[hazy oasis]

source

[real hornet]

ye they would have mentioned if it was now, but the capability to is already set in groundwork

[silk rapids]

any idea if it will be easy to reset points this game

[real hornet]

yes, gold

[native widget]

very

[trail lynx]

its going to be similar to kalguur

but supposedly u cant respec an ascendancy into another

[pearl scroll]

yep just gold but not infinitely there is a compounding cost

[native widget]

compounding cost?

[pearl scroll]

yes gold cost

[keen dagger]

Oh Falling Thunder was actually nerfed to shit, I didn't notice

[real hornet]

imagine respeccing into an unfinished ascend by accident haha

[silk rapids]

im trying to help my friend, she wants to be a minion witch, but no guides yet obvisouly

[frail jay]

idk lol, people were talking about it earlier. Apparently T13 gems are in maps and T14 gems are from pinnacle bosses

[lofty grotto]

ffs, game kicked me from the queue after hour

😐

[frail jay]

you have to drop the uncut gem of that tier to make it

[static plinth]

Thats cursed

[cedar river]

Anyone think that the Tailwind + Rapid Shot interaction will get nerfed?

[maiden karma]

@frail jay do you think rage's attack damage will increase ailment damage as well?

[real hornet]

minion witch should probably go bloodmage since it gives a lot to do, and if you want to be more useful yourself, you can. inferno girl is pretty glass cannon with the pyro thing and honestly looks like a class you wouldn't want to first try

[static plinth]

Trypanon? Is that you buddy?

[lofty grotto]

why do you assume it requires a nerf?

[worldly wolf]

i have read that the base spirit at the beginning is 100, am I right?

Or did I remmber wrongly

[maiden karma]

But if you close your eyes

[silent prawn]

Wonder if fork with grenades could produce cluster

[cedar river]

You can get a full stack in nearly 1 second, Jonathan has confirmed it works and that the designers are not happy about it.

[silk rapids]

what do you think is going to be better for witch minions. infernalist or blood

[static plinth]

Oh my god it is

[frail jay]

if it works the same as poe1 rage yes

[static plinth]

Same(ish) flavor text

[pearl scroll]

Its not glass cannon at all she has 20%dr + 16% dr from cold, lightning and phys

[cedar river]

With a bow it will take around 6 seconds to get a full stack

[pearl scroll]

just dont take glass cannon nodes

[static plinth]

If Pillar of The Caged God still works the same, maybe Gemling Legionnaire tri-stack cooks

[rancid frost]

Can make any of them tanky

[frail jay]

Inferno Witch Glass Cannon 🤡

definitely not 20% DR minion and a ton of ES stacking

[primal bloom]

Anyone got a poisonous concoction build?

[rancid frost]

Anything glass is gonna have a rough time

[heady sandal]

anyone know the base shock chance?

[frail jay]

and yknow, minions

[frail jay]

1% chance per 4% ailment threshold

[static plinth]

Have we seen damage conversion away from Chaos?

[frail jay]

yes

well damage gained, not converted from chaos

[slender fern]

nah im going bloodmage now

[lofty grotto]

working as intented /s
they'll propably just slap ICD on it

[static plinth]

Oh i guess Avatar of Fire is away from chaos isnt it

[real hornet]

yeah and then using 2 spells makes you take 100% ehp damage that can be reduced but sure I guess that's not gonna be a problem at all, and of course demon form requires half your ascendancy points to still be taking some DoT that probably isn't low, yes totally not a problem

[frail jay]

oh yeah AoF is

[tranquil hearth]

Where my fellow titans at

[heady sandal]

where does ailment threshold come from? the target's life?

[pearl scroll]

might be uniques

[cedar river]

So that the Tailwind can't be procced too often, or something like that?

[frail jay]

why would you go pyroflame on minions and why would you overflow it if you did, overflowing it is for manadump builds that will stack mitifation so it isn't a problem.

And demon form is bait and not for minions

[lofty grotto]

more like internal cooldown at stack gain
simple, global change

[static plinth]

yall wtf is this

Oh its like Rain of Arrows okay

[real hornet]

yes, they are both bait, that's what I was saying

[static plinth]

I thought this shit was like Forbidden Rite i was gonna cry

[frail jay]

minions get the dog and the spirit/ES

[dawn spire]

In Poe1 threshold is based on life, but could be different for enemies like bosses. Bosses in Poe1 had so much health that basing ailments on the same % of their health as other mobs made it very difficult to inflict those ailments, so they introduced ailment threshold. That way they could have ailment builds not get completely wrecked by bosses

[heady sandal]

Gotcha.

[frail jay]

Nodes that are bad for minion builds compared to other nodes are bait it's like when people talk about minion infernalist they are talking about the good minion infernalist nodes or something

[cedar river]

Maybe they planned to make Tailwind + Quill Rain to be an interesting combo

[static plinth]

Does Ancestral Bond Dark Effigy cook

[frail jay]

It shoots an extra proj per chaos debuff on the enemy, I think there's like 5 chaos debuffs, maybe more if each curse applies a separate decay

[static plinth]

Yeah so its 100 max i guess

[frail jay]

Dark Effigy Ancestral Bond Chaos DoT Spammer

[fleet blaze]

WEN STEAM GONNA LET US LOGIN

[hazy oasis]

never :)

[frail jay]

Not downloading standalone client

[static plinth]

What ascendancy though

Infernalist? I guess?

Or Warbringer maybe

[deft wigeon]

I havent been keeping up with the addon news for POE2. Is path of building community fork updated for POE2?

[lofty grotto]

Quill Rain is pretty much made for Lightning Deadeye, so it's safe to assume that was their intent

[static plinth]

Not remotely

[random summit]

guys any thoughts on DP bloodmage

[frail jay]

Warbringer or Infernalist

[deft wigeon]

Where are people going to plan builds?

[rancid frost]

Laughs in Xbox

[static plinth]

poe2db.tw

[static plinth]

I think im gonna go infernalist since its closer to the actual chaos damage nodes

[abstract nimbus]

is anyone of u using the stormwaver build from the buld help thread?

[lofty grotto]

I'm still salty that bow lost it's chaos skills

[static plinth]

Oh my god. Contagion is ALL other chaos DoTs now

Login

[hushed flame]

I just want to summon monkeys with Warbringer but I have no idea how you make it work

[static plinth]

I can also go Beidat node for +Spirit

[deft wigeon]

sweet ty

[frail jay]

yeah that's fair, I think you go dog (and give it like meatshield) and then beidat stuff just like a minion build so you get +200 spirit for +2 more dark effigies and then you put on a sceptre and you have like 5-6 spammy totems

[lofty grotto]

dogmeat

[static plinth]

+4 spell levels is pretty appealing ngl

Id have to go Mastered Darkness though

I dont think its 4 ascendancy nodes good

[frail jay]

Actually I wonder if Infernalist is the ascendancy for melee totems too

you could get like 8 melee totems

[static plinth]

ITs a shame Soulrend lasts all of 1 second

[frail jay]

What ones are there? ED, Contagion, Decay, Soulrend

[static plinth]

Profane Ritual

[frail jay]

idk if that one counts

[static plinth]

It counts for Effigy but ont Contagion, i think

[quasi spire]

can anyone tell me if ignite dots themselves can crit in poe2 ?

[frail jay]

I don't think it counts for effigy

[dawn spire]

No. Only hits can crit

[static plinth]

Its a Chaos DoT, isnt it?

[frail jay]

it's a DoT area, not a debuff

Effigy/Contagion is specifically debuffs

[static plinth]

Its a debuffing area, though

Hm

[frail jay]

no that's not how that works

They don't put a debuff on the enemy, they deal damage to enemies in the area

[static plinth]

Well either way, EDC + Soulrend seems sufficient

+Decay

[calm kite]

Any good ideas no what skills/gems will be good with this build
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgoDaUYDBUPDsi37AphJirjwDsUofM70rTfX7DRjhVhzJ8Ulf71n5gmQOUIv3X23oDmv1CA2k27DTIazo5VhfszwH239n8od4d3xiuiSu2g4bu_bVeAMsyiOD9tj1dl0cjjgqSeTtdrGQ0ub8xb01S3YSNv5dyJ1bImNxWkZcS_Kn9guQ2DSyHdbEGum8O0NCM45SiWqAgWYfeFu3meFCufwtRZ5A6694KJy-A_da2MFmT2megazXrYk6m3hsIR6Va_ZnDWqkfxCgDUI0BKMOJOutE3ROAAA

[static plinth]

Soulrend seems the most annoying to make work

[frail jay]

Ailments are a family of common Debuffs

Poison works

[dawn spire]

Does decay count as a debuff?

[static plinth]

Decompose, then?

[frail jay]

idk if that's a debuff

[static plinth]

I cant wait to play piano

[frail jay]

oh it poisons

nice

[static plinth]

Yeah

[frail jay]

can also probably just put poison chance on the dog

or something

[static plinth]

Ideally id automate Decompose, Soulrend, and decay, and manually do EDC

[frail jay]

yeah

and manual effigies

[half ingot]

its giga bait, but.. its giga cool

[static plinth]

Hopefully i can just do EDC for clear?

Seems reasonable

[frail jay]

Holy fuck

the quality for dark effigy is wither chance

that build will actually be cracked I think

[static plinth]

Oh hol yshit

Login

[half ingot]

has anybody made a list of all skills that generate different type of charges?

[hidden siren]

would bonuses that apply on full life enemies work when u proc decimating strike

[frail jay]

Gonna have 6 totems spamming 5x projectiles on everything with wither

[half ingot]

that would be very cool to have

[static plinth]

What automation can we do. Cast on Dodge?

[slender fern]

i guess i will do this

[static plinth]

Mmm no that takes a bunch of rolls

Omg wait. I can weapon swap. So I have an EDC setup and a Totem setup

[frail jay]

[pearl scroll]

I NEED MORE SKILL POINTS THERE IS TOO MANY GOOD NODES

[frail jay]

I mean they both do chaos that seems unnecessary

[fiery pendant]

do we know anything about the gold cost of respec? how viable will it be do do a few full respecs?

[static plinth]

Depends on if there's Totem specific nodes

[frail jay]

makes more sense to have a quarterstaff curse swap setup with hand of chayula

to apply despair and enfeeble or something

and take whispers

[static plinth]

Hrm automating the spells seems, annoying

[abstract nimbus]

is there any stuff that points me into the right direciton build wise? no idea what im gonna do with this passive tree

[neon tinsel]

take stuff that you think is good

[pearl scroll]

figure out what scales your damage and what scales your defences

[hidden siren]

pick as you go u can respec when guides come out

[pearl scroll]

dont listen to those 2 guys

[abstract nimbus]

lol

[pearl scroll]

just learn how you scale then it comes naturally

[abstract nimbus]

oikay

[static plinth]

So whats the deal with this. Witch gets extra benefits on nodes near her start?

[rapid marlin]

my flicker lightning invoker monk

[frail jay]

the first one is what sorc gets

[static plinth]

Ahh

Sick

[hidden siren]

its a passive tree u dont need to 100% analyze whats the absolute best for your build yet gold is not going to be an issue

ascendancies are prob the only thing u need to take your time choosing since its perm

[static plinth]

Nuclear bomb

[tender oasis]

the ascendency pick is unchangeable but not thepassives

[wanton dawn]

what yall think about eternal youth keystone on a monkey

[languid oasis]

Who's got an invoker tree

[frail jay]

I have an invoker build

[wanton dawn]

send it

[swift aspen]

when skills "fire an additional projectile" is it like echo or does it become more like a multishot fan?

[pearl sluice]

is queue down?

[rapid marlin]

I have one but for flicker

[static plinth]

God, what if each stack of poison counts for Dark Effigy

If so we could instantly cut this down to just EDCDE

[frail jay]

or if decay stacks and counts, yeah that would be nuts

[calm kite]

going something similar but acolyte archmage

can't wait

[velvet condor]

Anyone have a Stormweaver build?

[static plinth]

Man, the Chaos nodes are distributed really weirdly

[frail jay]

Archmage is from pinnacle bosses dont plan on starting it

[calm kite]

yep

[deft wigeon]

Is re-rolling more affordable in POE2? Was thinking of going in blind and trying to make my own build for my frist time

[frail jay]

remember generic spell damage works too

[native widget]

👀

[static plinth]

Fair

[velvet condor]

Thats small

[static plinth]

I think i might level with EDC and only add DE later on

[native widget]

real

[static plinth]

Ill at least wait til i get the +Placement Speed support

[frail jay]

DE is a T9 gem anywyas

[calm kite]

what might you recommend for the start ?

[frail jay]

idk cold spells

[swift aspen]

damn i shouldn't have installed on external lol

[hidden siren]

why would u even do that

[orchid sundial]

is this for infernal ?

[slender fern]

yea

some youtuber made it and Im not a experienced poe player so Im gonna just copy

[orchid sundial]

i'm looking for one for a bloodmage hmmge

[slender fern]

i was looking for that first

but found infernalist one

[static plinth]

There's absolutely no way the Font of X supports are per totem...right?

[orchid sundial]

is infernatlist good without the minions tho ?

[static plinth]

Oh wait they probably work on Ice Crystals so definitely not

[swift aspen]

anyone know how "additional projectile" works? Is it like an echo or more like a fan of projectiles

[static plinth]

Fan

[slender fern]

idk im gonna keep looking for blood mage build if someone made

[swift aspen]

but can a close-up mob be hit by multiple hits

[humble kernel]

just finished my skill build for infernal necro D: hope its not shit

[orchid sundial]

that or monk, i would love to play

[calm bane]

deadeye go br hi

[static plinth]

ASTRAL PROJECTION IS A SUPPORT NOW i have to resist the call

[half ingot]

does one with storm make flicker permanent?

if it doesnt it doesnt do anything for flicker

cuz flicker is binary

[prime raft]

why did steam have a 2gb patch, but standalone didnt have any patch ?????????????????

[lofty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[half ingot]

10 more mins, huh

[proven rapids]

tf ?

[lofty grotto]

queue is dead

[orchid sundial]

steam unpacks from what i can see

[rapid marlin]

It will just increase the amount of strikes.

[half ingot]

it wont

[prime raft]

whens the new patch coming

[slender fern]

almost done

[half ingot]

it doesnt add to the amount per power charges

[native widget]

yo why is my steam client crashing

[half ingot]

its a binary skill

[rapid marlin]

why not? if my max is 4 power charge, it just count as 5

[uncut sonnet]

Honestly guys, the best thing you can do for your build right now is to air out your room so you're at peak O2 at launch

[orchid sundial]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/tri-ailment-blood-mage do you saw this?

[half ingot]

cuz u wont be conusming 4 power charges with 1 click

one click = 3 hits total = -1 power charge

u can still use flicker without power charges, its just gonna be 3 times slower

[slender fern]

who will be more powerfull as a necro bloodmage or infernalist?

[orchid sundial]

infernalist

bloodmage is like a solo caster

[slender fern]

so im going infernalist

[rapid marlin]

where do you get this information? from what i read, you are strike once at default. every power charge increase 3 strikes

[rapid marlin]

that outdated?

[slender fern]

cuz i want to be pure necro

[humble kernel]

my issue is what skills to use

active skills, anyways

[orchid sundial]

found this build for bloodmage on pohx/ rf father

[half ingot]

what? thats from poe2 db

[humble kernel]

for infernal necro

[half ingot]

literally datamined today

and this was never changed from the very start btw

idk what u saw

[rapid marlin]

oh just from 3 going to 2

[half ingot]

one click is -1 power charge

[rapid marlin]

still this

[half ingot]

nah u r actually right, mb

it works as u said it would

[rapid marlin]

thanks too for updated one

[humble kernel]

i just can't wait for the hell puppers

[slender fern]

found these 2 for infernal necro

[humble kernel]

owrd ty ty

[rapid marlin]

GOOD LUCK EXILE

[humble kernel]

MY STUPID COMPUTER IS STILL UNPACKING

[native widget]

Yo wtf

Why is servers still down

[slender fern]

why the hell its not logging in

[native widget]

😭

Wtffff

[weak marlin]

is there a lootfilter already?

[rough folio]

looking for good Witch/Minion build

[real hornet]

pog

[slender fern]

i dont think so

[slender fern]

same

[tranquil field]

does anyone know whether the dodge roll (petition to rename it to doge roll!) counts as moving?

[weak marlin]

am i the only one whos disk speed is at 40mb/s on steam?

[celest sedge]

Where did you find these?

[shrewd olive]

looks like the servers are down T_T

[half ingot]

I do wonder, will that node let u perma flicker as if u have 1 power charge while u actually have 0

[static plinth]

Is anyone willing to run this with Chaos Innoculation without MoM and with 0 energy shield

[half ingot]

no

[celest sedge]

50/50, i like those odds

[real hornet]

yes

I will 100% make a build around dance with death

[rapid marlin]

I think you can spam flicker IF the skill have no cooldown because you don't require power charge to use it.

power charge is just for additional strike

[slender fern]

on youtube

[half ingot]

yes but will u also get to perma use "1 power charge" with that node

[humble kernel]

i dont even have a queue just el contacto server

[half ingot]

cuz if u will thats gonna be crazy

basically making poe1 flicker strike with multistrike work exactly the same

[rapid marlin]

hmm so you mean it will be set to minimum 1 power charge use?

[silk rapids]

anyone else get this error

[half ingot]

I am asking if that will be the case, cuz idk

[rapid marlin]

no one know eksdee

[half ingot]

kekw

we will see

[slender fern]

same shit happening

[rapid marlin]

everyone get it. you can see streamer if not sure

[slender fern]

watching asmongold

[maiden karma]

Bruh where poison chance at

[static plinth]

@frail jay
Soul Mantle is back. Might be better than Ancestral Bond

[maiden karma]

Watch it be just bond

[static plinth]

Honestly? Id take that

Pathing over there is annoying

[indigo radish]

is anyone even in the game yet? lol

[static plinth]

Some guy's already at maps

[maiden karma]

Ben at it again

[timber kettle]

anyone who's in isn't wasting their time reading this chat

[native widget]

Yo guys wtf,

My steam client is crashing, and standalone cant login

😭😭😭😭

[maiden karma]

Ok so are we 100% certain that generic chance to apply ailments applies to poison?

Cause there is only around 64% poison chance on the tree

[native widget]

Fuck this

[static plinth]

Oh hey, i could use this to automate Decompose

[stuck peak]

outdated gpu driver noooo

[little glacier]

wow bro, did you read the tooltip and figure that out yourself?

[limber marsh]

hmm still dunno what to play. Flicker strike still a thing? I see a build but guessing it plays differently?

[real hornet]

monk is flicker boy

[broken yoke]

can anyone send a build to follow for monk

[drifting cedar]

flicker is staff only and power charges now instead of frenzy

also you get repeats for free

[real hornet]

it's more of a murder the entire screen skill now

[real hornet]

poe 2 flicker might as well be vaal flicker ngl

[slender fern]

I guess we not gonna play today

[real hornet]

indeed

[limber marsh]

it good tho?

sounds like it

[real hornet]

for sure, since you can hit a single target with all those hits as well

[static plinth]

Position 1000000 in queue

[slender fern]

I cant even log in man

[native widget]

HOW ARE YOU GUYS GETTING IN QUEUE

[ancient bane]

So just checking, is there any class/ascendancy that's better for minions at this point?

[lofty grotto]

current PoE page
It's dead

we've been scammed, deal with it

[slender fern]

only poe client installed ones are in queue

[willow remnant]

I've never played PoE without a build guide. What do i do now?

[limber marsh]

was a post at 1:15 or so saying theres a slight delay as they upgrade the database.

[slender fern]

steam ones are not in queue

[native widget]

you mean stand alone?

[slender fern]

yea i guess

[limber marsh]

Same. Get to wing it a bit

[native widget]

my standalone isnt logging in either

[slender fern]

then its a problem for everyone

[real hornet]

for hours

[static plinth]

Infernalist by a very short margin.

[native widget]

u gotta be kidding me

[real hornet]

ye only because of that spirit node, and that's literally it

[static plinth]

Hound too

[faint basin]

ima go Monk

or Witch

xD

[slender fern]

almost million viewers on twich

[faint basin]

asmon has 140k viewers daaamn

[autumn coral]

So witch loses summons when they ascend apart from the bloodhound?

[static plinth]

What?

[slender fern]

I watch him all the time not surprised at all

[faint basin]

I watch him sometimes too, i meant like he usually has like 40k people max

or 25k

on normal streams

[slender fern]

yea I mostly watch his youtube or past streams

[faint basin]

🔥

[faint basin]

mine is still unpacking 😭

[chilly radish]

where did all the life nodes go in the tree

[static plinth]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[real hornet]

and mana

this is why eldritch battery is de wey

[thin basin]

30 flat 30 flat with 50% increased is 90% right?

quickmaths

[static plinth]

Its 90 not 90% but yes

Its 150% assuming from 0

[frozen plinth]

sheeeet bois. i have no idea what to play yet, should maybe make some plans.

[pastel forge]

play bloodmage, you can get 3% x3 nodes there

for hp

[frozen plinth]

inquis coc, gemling minions, blood mage boomboom big ele bleeds, stormboi archmage all look tasty

[stray kiln]

hey, whats the game plan for bloodmage? I was thinking about either going infernalist or bloodmage but for bloodmage i have no clue what i would do. Minions? or what?

[celest oxide]

Start Warrior or Ranger I can't decide

[pastel forge]

yo got a link for that site?

[thin basin]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/planner/builds

[idle wyvern]

Anyone got any info on Templar?

[pastel forge]

tyty

[thin basin]

yw

[subtle orbit]

Nobody would, they just announced it, no info on it yet as it isn't avaialble at start

[thin basin]

one set for curse/effect other one for dmg

[idle wyvern]

Oh I thought it was going to be available on start, thats sad.

[odd rain]

Anyone got a blood mage build?

[orchid current]

chat why isn't my server build working

[subtle orbit]

Yeah 😦 Only classes available at start are Mercenary
Monk
Ranger
Sorceress
Warrior
Witch

[celest oxide]

Shockchain Deadeye sounds kinda cool, as a turbo noob

so does Hammer of Gods Titan tho

One of those two I'm starting for sure

[thin basin]

pick a spell, pick a scaling option and go

[slender fern]

who is more of a necro bloodmage or inferno?

[gentle summit]

Hey guys is there a website with the tree already?

[livid hamlet]

That's what happens when you build your servers to maximize PoB number and not real usecase

[orchid current]

i swear i'm going to spend the first hour and a half just looking at the skill tree

[slender fern]

half hour more

[rocky flint]

I’m going chaos blood mage persaonlky

[thin basin]

dark pact life stack 👍

[gentle flare]

what base class is that?

[wide plank]

Witch

[visual forge]

Barbarian Summoner will be the meta

[patent quiver]

Whats the best class for like a begginer and that would last for end game and stuff? i thought about Ranger cuz it has so much DPS

[light narwhal]

I can do such things? 😮

[subtle orbit]

Im having the hardest time of picking Infernal Witch or Chronomancer

[visual forge]

totem + spirit + balista

[placid moth]

Whats the difference in blood witch & infernalist specifically?

[quaint python]

invoker will be my first

[wise bluff]

Blood witch uses blood to cast spells. Infernalist turns into a demon

Ezpz

[light narwhal]

If only I know what does that mean)) first time, so need to learn a lot

[slender fern]

but who is more of necro?

[gray venture]

Do they both still summon hordes of minions?

[quaint python]

best to go in blind

[subtle orbit]

Blood is tanky and wants to be low health or high health and get more life from killing things and infernalist is fire damage and demon form to do more damage, and get a perm inernal doggy

[subtle orbit]

they both could if they wanted to

[wise bluff]

Neither summons hordes of anything by default lol read the words

[hasty prism]

can u become a bear in EA? or is that specifically tied to druid asc?

[inland osprey]

If my fave arpg build was multishot + turrets in D3, is there something similar here? An ascendancy that can get me close? I like the tight kiting.

[subtle orbit]

deadeye

[visual forge]

mee too ... or suc the minion and pick totems and balistas xD

[slender fern]

im gonna do blood mage minion first

[pearl sluice]

Gemling dark pact

[gray venture]

So if i want to play as a typical necromancer with alot of minions, what should i play as? Infernalist or Blood mage?
I'm a PoE first timer, so i'm clueless af

[static plinth]

Dark Effigy Infernalist

[placid moth]

same boat -
**Blood is tanky and wants to be low health or high health and get more life from killing things and infernalist is fire damage and demon form to do more damage, and get a perm inernal doggy

@Caffeine
Do they both still summon hordes of minions?
**

[static plinth]

Probably Infernalist

[placid moth]

Whoops copy pasted too much

[static plinth]

Blood never wants to be low health

[placid moth]

Infernalist seems more glass cannon with pet doggo

Blood seems more tanky vampire style

[static plinth]

Infernalist gets +Spirit and the hellhound so its at least somewhat geared for it

[gentle flare]

You've convinced me to go witch

[placid moth]

Right? Dog gang ftw

[slender fern]

so i m doin infernalist

[gray venture]

I still can't decide...

[idle wyvern]

IS warrior with 1 handed wep and shield viable? Or is it specifcially tailored to 2 handed weps?

[orchid current]

anyone have an interactive tree link?

[static plinth]

Everyone can run anything. Warrior isnt even particularly geared to Maces, just melee

[gentle flare]

if anyone wants to team up and play with me on my stream let me know

[drifting cedar]

although I believe maces are the only thing in this playtest that are tuned for warrior. at least so far

No swords, axes, flails yet right?

[gentle flare]

maybe we can make a full team of witches xD

[thin basin]

is there any skill with guaranteed ailment inflict? i want to put on trigger

[slender fern]

Ok more people suggest infernalist is better for minion builds so im gonna just do that

[gray venture]

Wait rlly?

[slender fern]

yea

[calm kite]

https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/AAAABgIAAAAA

[visual forge]

all want be a minion master? xD

[gray venture]

Yeah, it's not every game u get to play as an actual necromancer

[plucky fern]

I have this same question i think you all are talking about i want to be a summoner necro so i want witch right? which ascendency is appropriate for this?

[gray venture]

It's what sold me to try PoE2

[slender fern]

exactly

having army of dead is cool af

[broken yoke]

can anyone send build for monk

[slender fern]

overlord kinda feeling

[visual forge]

i dont like the ascendents of the witch for a minion master

[fiery pendant]

so far infernalist seems generically good for minions, once we have more info maybe gemling or more niche builds will pop up

[static plinth]

So...Whats the deal with traits?

[white robin]

merc or witch what to dooooo

[plucky fern]

So is witch not the class to run for minions? What gets me closest to summoner necro? 😭

[neon kindle]

All the fishing references in the tree data for unreleased classes 💀

[slender fern]

wtf is gender thing

[fiery pendant]

ye just go witch for a starter

[inland osprey]

If my fave arpg build was multishot + turrets & pets in D3, is there something similar here? An ascendancy that can get me close? I like the tight kiting. Assuming deadeye ascendancy? But what skills?

[rocky flint]

U can play minions on any class u want

Nothing is stopping u

[slender fern]

huh fr?

[visual forge]

mercenary

[celest oxide]

Are there like, Pet style of Minion skills actually?

Or is it more of like

the undead/demon variety

[fiery pendant]

*if you know what you are doing

[visual forge]

yep, but scle with int

[celest oxide]

Like I would love to have like, 1 strong animal companion style minion

But like an army of skeletons or demons doesn't really appeal to me

I'm a poe noob so I don't know, has anything like that ever really been a thing?

[visual forge]

same, but looks really intresting

[inland osprey]

over deadeye?

[celest oxide]

Would be cool if there were like a Beast Master type ascendency on Ranger eventually

I want a war bear

[visual forge]

its growing down, you can pick the balistas and totems are near

[fiery pendant]

we have had a variety of minions, for example an animated armor (you feed items to the minion and it equips it)

[high meadow]

Likely to come soon with Druid

[static plinth]

Hold out for Druid

[high meadow]

We’ve seen wolf summons for them, sure there will be more

[celest oxide]

Like a Ranger with a trusty pet Grizzly Bear or something

would be cool

Cool I'll keep my eye out for Druid

[static plinth]

Most of the minions are undead/animated objects/golems/ghosts

[celest oxide]

hopefully it'll be near all the Ranger stuff too lol

[visual forge]

to day its the druid and the 3º ascension too?

[orchid current]

i just remembered that ballistas are a thing, now i really don't know if i want to play witch hunter or invoker

[high meadow]

Assuming that skill gem would come out with Druid, you could the. Start as Druid and use bows or start as ranger and use the bear/animal

[celest oxide]

As for now, I'm trying to decide between starting with a Ranger (Some type of Lightning Arrow build) or Warrior with that cool big Hammer from the sky skill

[celest oxide]

ty for the insight

[bold mist]

Any suggestions for starter builds?

[celest oxide]

What you think looks coolest

[lunar valley]

At what level would you be able to cut a Tier7 skill? Are gem tiers related to player level?

[celest oxide]

By the time the meta has evolved I bet you'll be wanting to try new stuff anyways

[bold mist]

Storm brand?

RF?

Uhhh fireeeee

[fair basalt]

Does "Blink" or "Flicker Strike" also Teleport my minions with me?

[teal chasm]

Who's a good creator that's playing witchhunter merc?

[orchid current]

empy is starting witch hutner

[celest oxide]

Merc seems really cool too ngl

[formal night]

does anyone have website of archmage sorc skill tree?

[celest oxide]

pew pew

[stone marten]

anyone starting deadeyee xD

[teal chasm]

What's the difference between witch hunter and ranger? Both seem like a bow ranged build.

[static plinth]

Ignoring all the minutia, Mercenary is Crossbows, not bows

[orchid current]

starts on different sections of the tree, witch hunter technically doesn't really care about projectiles, its just advertised with the crossbow

[celest karma]

palsteron, but hes playing some weird totem version

[static plinth]

I wonder if my build would be better with Gemling rather than Infernalist

[teal chasm]

Ah, I see aeroplane is playing withhunter and so is ziggy games

[orchid current]

crossbow plays more like a top down shooter with magazines and reloading, deadeye uses bows

tbh i need the ascendancy art drip on my character

[teal chasm]

Ooh man, they are both frigging amazing.

[inland osprey]

im still struggling between deadeye and monk

[teal chasm]

Who's better to follow, aer0plane or ziggy games?

[peak lark]

what class can be a necro?

[modern tangle]

every class can summon undead

spells aren't even bound to a weapon but sceptres let you summon more

[royal trench]

what are some good ways to generate power charges?

[whole estuary]

i'd really like to play a decent witch hunter build, does anyone have any to share?

[gentle flare]

me