They deleted spell mana leech in 3.8 but that's just spell mana leech
#2┃build-planning
frail jay
cinder rose
We're getting into diminishing returns territory on this dead horse. What was the original discussion for?
thick thunder
are there any good skills you can just plop on the ground to passively build freeze?
muted charm
they simplified since
frail jay
We're getting into diminishing returns territory on this dead horse. What was th...
They said that there would be no way to leech life with spells in poe2 besides blood mage because it was a rule from poe1 and all ways to leech life on spells in poe1 had been removed
And then I gave like 6 examples of sources
and they lied and said those had been removed
so I proved they were still in
proven quest
We're getting into diminishing returns territory on this dead horse. What was th...
I thought it was about mana leech on spells not being in poe2 because it wasn't in poe1 lmao
muted charm
@frail jay also lied and said leech hasn't been changes since 3.06
but you dont see me getting butt hurt over misremembering
fringe vale
Guys I just started looking at poe2 browsing poe2skills.com how do I determine how many slots i'll have?
frail jay
<@137603604105134080> also lied and said leech hasn't been changes since 3.06
what was changed after 3.6?
muted charm
except in this case
frail jay
like you can't actually explain what was changed
cinder rose
Yah it's highly unlikely there will ever be spell mana leech because it effectively makes archmage completely OP
cinder rose
But with something like a CoC setup and a duration spell benefitting from archmage, you might be able to cheat with attack mana leech
One of the strongest builds in PoE1 had a system like this
muted charm
But with something like a CoC setup and a duration spell benefitting from archma...
CHONK!!!!!
The issue there is you still need to invest enough into attacks/crits to tirgger it properly and than why not just go invoker.
cinder rose
I'm going to try to make some kinda archmage chonk as well
I might ignore crits if I can find a good spell
frail jay
archmage chonk is bad
muted charm
I think the chonk leech nodes are much weaker than people think.
unless the small nodes are spicy
a lot of the ascendancies seem to have spicy small nodes.
cinder rose
Historically GGG makes leech too good at the start
frail jay
I doubt it, instant leech is nuts, it's just a matter of when you get crazy gear
cinder rose
Then they tune it down later
muted charm
Yeah but leech is already 1 sec.
hallow violet
friendship ended with spectres, no spirit acolyte is my new best friend
muted charm
so instant leech isn't that valuable
frail jay
leech being 1sec is a nerf
unless they've completely reworked leech
and if they have I'd like to see a source
muted charm
Basically I imagine the node leading up to it gives a significant amount of leech.
It's mana leech though.
You want it fast
cinder rose
It's also es leech
frail jay
PoE1 leech lasts 4sec, if you changed PoE1 leech to be 1sec you would get the same leech per second but it would stop after 1 second.
round imp
Is it normal for ascendancies in 2 to give very little extra damage? I wanna try Bloodmage 1378 but it offers literally no bonus damage, just qol and life. Worried I'll be much weaker than my friends in maps
frail jay
That's how leech works mechanically
proven quest
and if they have I'd like to see a source
I’ll see if I can find it for you, but leech caps at one instance iirc
muted charm
yeah that's what im thinking is the draw of the node. It gives a signifgant amount of mana leech.
Which translates to a signifigant amount of es leech
and any other mana leech from t hen on
turns into es leech as well.
pearl sluice
Are there aurabots
frail jay
Are there aurabots
not really
there's like 2 auras
can put a lot of debuffs on stuff I guess
pearl sluice
dayum
muted charm
and it would be neat if like. "Oh i only take the first node to get mana leech and save passives" and than get another interesting small node as well.
woven otter
MoM + 0 ES + Darkness = profit (maybe, probably not yolo)
frail jay
no
muted charm
just as a "They're trying to encourage creativity."
frail jay
darkness is garbage
distant dome
People can wield a scepter each to bring an aura
muted charm
darkness is fine.
thin basin
frail jay
darkness is terrible
pastel forge
Is it normal for ascendancies in 2 to give very little extra damage? I wanna try...
the only dmg scaling from bloodmage is either bleed or crit
distant dome
but like not zdps aura bots
pastel forge
and you chose neither
frail jay
losing your spirit is a massive downside
woven otter
15-25% multiplicative is decent?
frail jay
and the upside sucks
cinder rose
We don't know what other things could help the value of darkness yet
muted charm
HoC
Killing Palm
Flicker
Siphon STrike
Shocking Stirke
Falling Thunder
Whirling Assault.
Power charge from corpse skill.
No room for heralds
that's what darkness is for
muted charm
monk is the opposite of merc
round imp
the only dmg scaling from bloodmage is either bleed or crit
Ok so Bloodmage minions probably isn't viable then. Cheers. I don't really want to play infernalist a ton but it seems like there's no real choice (for witch)
muted charm
extremely starving for skill slots
frail jay
HoC
Killing Palm
Flicker
Siphon STrike
Shocking Stirke
Falling Thunder
Whi...
"darkness is for using bad builds"
cinder rose
What if there's a unique that quadruples the upside of darknes
You keep assuming we have all the info, Kirvin
muted charm
"darkness is for using bad builds"
That's a good build?
frail jay
What if there's a unique that quadruples the upside of darknes
Point to any unique in PoE1 that has an interaction with an ascendancy-specific thing
muted charm
I don't know how you play a power charge stacker any ohter way.
falling thunder has ass single target
and flickers clear is doodoo
frail jay
I seriously doubt they will make any unique that can only be used by 1 ascendancy class
wise violet
any have a build guide for mercanary crossbow
proven quest
PoE1 leech lasts 4sec, if you changed PoE1 leech to be 1sec you would get the sa...
If the only thing you changed about leech in poe1 was the duration, you’d leech the same amount you would leech over 4 seconds, but over 1 second. So if that’s how poe2 works, then it’s still solid. And insta is even better with no stacking leech instances
muted charm
since hand of chayula is a "Every monk" thing
pastel forge
Ok so Bloodmage minions probably isn't viable then. Cheers. I don't really want ...
infernalist 1 3 4 10 ES build yea
frail jay
If the only thing you changed about leech in poe1 was the duration, you’d leech ...
No, because leech instances cap at 1/10 of max leech per second, and max leech per second caps at 20% of max life.
So you would still leech 20% of max life per second, but only for 1 second
round imp
infernalist 1 3 4 10 ES build yea
That's what I was thinking. I don't wanna deal with Flame and I don't want to lose my scepter to play demon
I'm just worried about losing so much life because Poe has historically been much easier to stack life than es. Could be different in 2
pastel forge
That's what I was thinking. I don't wanna deal with Flame and I don't want to lo...
man i hope they fix that unequip weapons shit for transform, i wanna build demon mommy caster
muted charm
You should not not use this
thin basin
Ok so Bloodmage minions probably isn't viable then. Cheers. I don't really want ...
u prob grab perma curse, progenesis, and the es as HP thing o bloodmage, almost all defensive, why do that when gemling get u like 2 set of full on minion with good gems and quality and lvl and max res w/e
trail rampart
Anyone got a link to the known crafting bases and implicits that come with them ?
im looking for the crossbows specifically
thin basin
or just run inferno for free dog and more energy
muted charm
this says "Hey fuck this guy in particular. and give you awesome curse and mark access at same time."
since marks aren't curses anymore
true gulch
cast on ignite + freskill + spellecho would work right?
thin basin
minion idk hwat u want for the 4th
muted charm
mana regen being free sounds nice
since you have a army to let you cool down whenever you want
thin basin
pastel forge
gemlin has poor access to spirit
wdym poor access
you just use a scepter
path to minion nodes
verbal totem
Meaning no ascendancy support, not really a deal breaker tho
vapid shadow
akimbo shields ice sorc 
pastel forge
you get stronger minions in return, its just a different tradeoff
vapid shadow
perma shield
muted charm
wdym poor access
You'll understand.
thin basin
chances are theres atleast 1 minion related wheel on bottom left side somewhere
muted charm
people are assuming easy campaign
0 punishment for doing cross class stuff
It's not poe1
verbal totem
I mean so build Xbow/melee and then respec when you get the relevant gear/gold?
sacred sparrow
So I'm basically brand new and the Ascendacy stuff, how do we purchase points in this ascendacy thing? Levels? How many of those in a Tree can we purchase?
thick thunder
how long is poison duration?
muted charm
I mean so build Xbow/melee and then respec when you get the relevant gear/gold?
it is a whole ass 27 points to make it to witch grabbing nothing but armor nodes
undone ingot
i feel like if you cant take advantage of quality on gems then whats even the point
muted charm
that's REALLY bad
rich dawn
So when building out skills what do we need as a base eg. Clear skill, boss skill, buffs, curses etc
frail jay
HoC
Killing Palm
Flicker
Siphon STrike
Shocking Stirke
Falling Thunder
Whi...
Basically Whirling Assault has no purpose here, you're going to be just doing Shocking Strike and then spamming Siphoning Strike. You have Flicker and Falling Thunder when you don't need 2 PC spenders. You also don't have a combo spender and should run mantra or bell. You probably don't need Killing Palm because if there are mobs that you can cull you can also just shock -> siphon them. You're also... selfcasting profane ritual for power charges? Really just take out Killing Palm, Whirling Assault, Falling Thunder, and Profane Ritual. Put in Freezing Wave, Cast on Shock (probably like EoW to apply crit vuln and exposure), cast on Freeze (Profane Ritual), and Mantra of Destruction (for flicker for ST).
muted charm
Basically Whirling Assault has no purpose here, you're going to be just doing Sh...
whiulring assault has a purpose dear
whirling assault is monks equivilant of blocking while attacking
frail jay
You're also forgetting that the darkness is in place of the breach nodes (70% added as chaos and life/mana recovery) or the mana/ES leech
muted charm
its likely to be in nearly every build without wave of frost
or some other equivilant
mark made a proper end game monk and it had both wave and a different monk move skill
thats a slam instead of a strike cause synergies
muted charm
when you need to fucking book it but dont want to stop doing damage
frail jay
Your downtime is all shock -> siphon
proven quest
No, because leech instances cap at 1/10 of max leech per second, and max leech p...
Man, I can’t find the source, I thought someone said that leech has no cap so that’s limit wouldn’t apply. There’s also a node that leeches life slower, so something pretty big had changed about leech
silver bone
So I'm basically brand new and the Ascendacy stuff, how do we purchase points in...
you complete trials, you find trials as you go through the campaign, there's 4 difficulties of trial, difficulty 1-3 can be found in campaign, difficulty 4 is in end game. Each trial completed give 2 ascendancy point, you cannot change ascendancy once chosen
do correct me if I'm wrong
muted charm
its full move speed
frail jay
and then you can mantra and flicker or falling thunder
muted charm
you cant sotp to dodge rol in packs
thin basin
i feel like if you cant take advantage of quality on gems then whats even the po...
do we even know what quality does on minions
muted charm
or you just fall over
thats why melee has so many move while attacking skills
and if you notice from streamers playing wariror
undone ingot
do we even know what quality does on minions
we do not
muted charm
pretty mcuh every melee toon uses one
sometimes you need an oh shit button that keeps the damage going as melee
frail jay
Ok then if you REALLY want whirling assaut (still bad IMO) just take out cast on shock or something
Doesn't change that darkness is bad and that build is bad
No mantra 2 spenders
selfcast profane ritual
muted charm
but why would you use cast on shock in that build
thin basin
maybe we can assume "revive faster" or something
frail jay
because you shock a bunch...
muted charm
your entirely centered around attack absed shock build up
thin basin
1% per %
muted charm
also
fun fact
i love how inovker doesn't actually make itself the defacto best ailment class
sacred sparrow
you complete trials, you find trials as you go through the campaign, there's 4 d...
Thanks!
muted charm
it simply rewards it in its own way
frail jay
I mean it's good but yeah other classes are also good?
muted charm
Yeah it's just neat
It makes sure not to step on chonk/third monks toes
since ailments are kinda monks things.
frail jay
Still, you should 100% have mantra in that build, and selfcasting profane ritual is painful
At least EI profane
sacred sparrow
How many points do we end up with to spend on the regular talent board?
muted charm
that's a good point
undone ingot
tbf you could probably put mantra in any build that has a long CD
frail jay
Remember that mantra can give an extra 20% more and cull from the empower supports
proven quest
Profane ritual on cast on melee kill seems solid. With flicker strike you need 4 kills and you sustain power charges
frail jay
I mean I would just take out falling thunder yeah and keep flicker for ST, I think siphoning strike should be fine for clear
it does AOE
shock a pack then spam siphoning
then flicker on the remaining
undone ingot
weirdos leaving corpses around to profane
frail jay
with mantra
then EI profane
flicker again, w/e
flicker should build combo for mantra
undone ingot
they will reset queue probably
native widget
damn
frail jay
@muted charm what are you taking darkness in place of btw? No ES leech? No double duration of breach buffs?
undone ingot
darkness is super booty
muted charm
<@1126817999345688606> what are you taking darkness in place of btw? No ES leech...
true I do suppose the other shit is just too good
woven otter
is breach even any good
frail jay
true I do suppose the other shit is just too good
yeah exactly, darkness is bad lol
YES
undone ingot
conversion is dog now
undone ingot
is breach even any good
on monk? extremely
woven otter
for the heals?
frail jay
I mean it's 140% damage added as chaos when you have full stacks
undone ingot
its a lot of dmg too
frail jay
you just have to walk into a purple thing once every 10sec
muted charm
no because flicker auto collects them for you
woven otter
no way its 140% added
upbeat birch
Bloodmage looks crazy with elemental bleed.
thin basin
weirdos leaving corpses around to profane
ikr, they should all be exploded
in a dead kinda way...
undone ingot
no way its 140% added
7x10x2
muted charm
do we have a visual of flickerstrike still
frail jay
it's 7% per stack, 10 stacks max, and the 2nd node doubles the effect so 14%
muted charm
or was it lost to time
frail jay
it's in the content reveal isn't it?
proven quest
no way its 140% added
It is. 7% per stack, ten stack total. Doubled with second ascendancy
muted charm
it's 7% per stack, 10 stacks max, and the 2nd node doubles the effect so 14%
it requires some movement but you want to dodge in bosses
woven otter
ya but i dont thinks its added like multiplicative the same way as the other nodes
its too high
muted charm
its also chaos damage
undone ingot
ya but i dont thinks its added like multiplicative the same way as the other nod...
thats fine, it is
muted charm
which means your elemnetal nodes Which you will be taking wont effect it
frail jay
I mean just scale attack damage
undone ingot
its not sustainable
muted charm
unless they added chaos monk skills while we werent looking
undone ingot
but you can absolutely have 7 stacks for a short period of time
frail jay
don't take elemental nodes unless they have special interactions with ailments
woven otter
its worded differently
frail jay
like the one where you shock enemies on chilled ground for power charges
Just get as much attack speed and generic attack damage as you can
the chaos damage is over double your base damage
muted charm
don't take elemental nodes unless they have special interactions with ailments
exaclty. 🙂
undone ingot
unless they added chaos monk skills while we werent looking
just use phys dmg attacks and go poison. makes mana leech easier too
distant dome
Y'know, Bonestorm doesn't make sense to be the Blood Mage iconic skill, unless Bonestorm becomes a good target for Bleed. Maybe there's going to be a way to stack bleed?
muted charm
just use phys dmg attacks and go poison. makes mana leech easier too
You'd need stun
......your kinda hard locked with qaurterstaffs
frail jay
just use phys dmg attacks and go poison. makes mana leech easier too
they wanna do siphoning strike flicker
frail jay
Yeah I've said if I did chonk I would do bow or crossbow mainly
undone ingot
you can stun with quarterstaffs
random nymph
does monk have flicker?
native widget
does monk have flicker?
yea
frail jay
much easier to get consistent phys attack damage with bow/crossbow
muted charm
just use phys dmg attacks and go poison. makes mana leech easier too
you do signifigantly less stun if your a poison buiild is the thing
frail jay
rain of arrows, rapid fire thing, etc
muted charm
since stun nodes are phys nodes mostly around chonks area
pastel forge
Y'know, Bonestorm doesn't make sense to be the Blood Mage iconic skill, unless B...
well bonestorm bloodmage can skip both base crit and bleed nodes and get gore/progenesis/crimsom power
proven quest
I mean just scale attack damage
I think I missed a lot of the convo, but I thought people were saying added is before all increase/ more calculations?
frail jay
I think I missed a lot of the convo, but I thought people were saying added is b...
it is yes
distant dome
well bonestorm bloodmage can skip both base crit and bleed nodes and get gore/pr...
yeah
That was my plan originally
frail jay
I think I missed a lot of the convo, but I thought people were saying added is b...
if I have 100 cold and get 140 chaos added, then 10% increased attack damage increases both 10%, while elemental/cold just scales the cold
native zinc
would the damage conversion from rapid fire and from avatar of fire stack? getting 100% fire damage?
thorny path
I think I missed a lot of the convo, but I thought people were saying added is b...
It is but people like to cope
frail jay
So you want attack damage and attaack speed, not elemental/cold
thorny path
especially when something they like is nerfed
Haven't you seen all these terrible flicker strike builds popping up
muted charm
Also important
shadows area of the tree
is fucking weird
shadow/monks
just a fair warning to all of you nice folks
frail jay
what's weird about it?
proven quest
So you want attack damage and attaack speed, not elemental/cold
Best case would be flat chaos and % increase chaos then? Idk how much there is in the tree though
empty halo
Hey guys, looking for clarity on the Flame of Chayula, 'Purple Flames of Chayula provide a stacking buff granting 7% of damage as Chaos damage for 5 seconds and stacks up to 10 times. - QUESTION: is this converting %x of damage to Chaos, or is this adding %x of damage as Chaos. Normally As extra Chaos Damage would be the terminology I would expect, but many people keep discussing this as its adding damage.
pastel forge
minion bros are gonna be big sad
muted charm
what's weird about it?
There are hybrid nodes. But they're designed as "Dopubly efficent attack node placed right next to doubly efficent spell node."
frail jay
Best case would be flat chaos and % increase chaos then? Idk how much there is i...
I mean it doesn't really matter what you base damage is if your increased scales it all, what will matter is the post mitigation mods so you'll probably use despair instead of like conductivity
frail jay
There are hybrid nodes. But they're designed as "Dopubly efficent attack node pl...
that's pretty nice for elemental expression builds
muted charm
Yeah
native widget
minion bros are gonna be big sad
ghazzy big sad
upbeat birch
Gemling could go full strength stack Flicker build.
proven quest
I mean it doesn't really matter what you base damage is if your increased scales...
Ya but if your base is chaos, then you get to use attack and chaos to scale, rather than just attack
muted charm
that's pretty nice for elemental expression builds
They very much used the middle of the tree is harder to path tooo than rim." to their advantage with some designs.
same for starting areas
frail jay
Ya but if your base is chaos, then you get to use attack and chaos to scale, rat...
well yeah but your base isn't gonna be chaos
muted charm
some starting areas are dank
and yuou'll take like
every node
stares at warrior
yeah that one
frail jay
Plan a build around echoforge sure 
fringe vale
Guys I'm a complete noob how do I determine how many gem slots to fill here: https://poe2skills.com to plan my build I want to start with Gemling?
proven quest
well yeah but your base isn't gonna be chaos
Why not?
thin basin
minion bros are gonna be big sad
they were syaing spectre was dd'able but i dont believe it
frail jay
Why not?
that's not how items work, I don't really wanna explain this lol
weapon = phys, skill = phys/lightning
You could do an ele wep I guess too
since you mostly care about the chaos added
still, not base chaos
proven quest
that's not how items work, I don't really wanna explain this lol
Sorry, by base I mean all flat damage before calculations
distant dome
hmmm... Do I leave my computer on overnight to stay in que
proven quest
Not just the base stats of a white item lol
frail jay
hmmm... Do I leave my computer on overnight to stay in que
queue will reset when they patch
undone ingot
its definitely going to be reset
muted charm
hmmm... Do I leave my computer on overnight to stay in que
don't get in queue
there will be small patch on launch
basically unencrypting it
frail jay
Not just the base stats of a white item lol
have you played poe1? I feel like you haven't?
Basically for a good weapon you're going to have high phys, or high fire/cold/lightning, you aren't going to have a bunch of flat chaos on a wep
unless it's a unique
woven otter
does "damage with hits" mean phys melee damage?
muted charm
There are lenty of ele weapons
undone ingot
does "damage with hits" mean phys melee damage?
physical melee damge is a type of hit damage
frail jay
Ok fair, I could see there being a chaos base just because chonk exists, but at the same time like... the explicits would still not be chaos
pastel forge
there are maces that are pure fire iirc
frail jay
maybe 1/3 prefix
pastel forge
base
muted charm
Ok fair, I could see there being a chaos base just because chonk exists, but at ...
they would
ele bases change the rules of the base
pastel forge
so pure chaos weap is possible
undone ingot
does "damage with hits" mean phys melee damage?
hits in this instance is basically anything that isnt a damage over time
frail jay
they would
oh wait that's actually pretty cool
ok sure maybe there'll be full chaos staves
woven otter
hits in this instance is basically anything that isnt a damage over time
ahh kk, if it doesnt say "hits" it means it includes DOT?
dire rivet
whats chaos? Is that a type of dmg like fire/cold etc?
frail jay
but it's like a theoretical thing GGG might do
native zinc
rapid shot wtih pierce + cast on crit seems like it could be good, specially if you could get it to 100% fire conversion
frail jay
whats chaos? Is that a type of dmg like fire/cold etc?
yeah basically
undone ingot
ahh kk, if it doesnt say "hits" it means it includes DOT?
it means it could include dots, do you have a specific thing youre wondering about?
dire rivet
what does it do? Like true dmg?
hoary bolt
just think of it as like dark energy damage
dire rivet
ah oke so nothing special right
woven otter
it means it could include dots, do you have a specific thing youre wondering abo...
chonk ascendancy nodes, one adds chaos to damage with hits, and the other adds chaos to damage
dire rivet
aaah well thats good to know
muted charm
what does it do? Like true dmg?
close enough
frail jay
generally the differences with chaos are: can't be reflected, much harder to get leech with, much harder to get penetration/resist reduction for, applies to poison magnitude, has a unique debuff called wither that increases the damage of chaos the more wither you have, enemies have less resistance to it
muted charm
very few things resist it
outside of large phys hits it's the equivilant of "True damage"
dire rivet
So it would be really good if I can get it for bosses?
frail jay
not really
proven quest
Basically for a good weapon you're going to have high phys, or high fire/cold/li...
I’ve played plenty lol. Why not? There’s poe builds that use flat chaos weapons
frail jay
You don't really look for specific damage types to have in your build
frail jay
I’ve played plenty lol. Why not? There’s poe builds that use flat chaos weapons
Yeah unique items and high end crafted bases for poison builds using like covenant...
undone ingot
chonk ascendancy nodes, one adds chaos to damage with hits, and the other adds c...
so even though Flame of Chayula doesnt specify hits, it does only apply to hits because you cant convert DoT damage
woven otter
so even though Flame of Chayula doesnt specify hits, it does only apply to hits ...
sry, im talking about Reality Rending and Grasp of the Void
undone ingot
sry, im talking about Reality Rending and Grasp of the Void
oh ok, same answer
frail jay
grasp of the void and reality rending are bad don't take them
muted charm
pretty much
woven otter
ima do chaos melee mana stacking
undone ingot
Gain is the same mechanic as conversion, you just keep the base damage intact
muted charm
every class should make a bee line to the end of their tree
there are some exceptions
undone ingot
ima do chaos melee mana stacking
this will probably be bad, but go nuts
muted charm
but ggg put exceptional effort into making sure skill tree is easier to use
vocal nova
Can we stun boss forever? Like 6 people doing full stunt build.
muted charm
and actually looks like a skill tree instead of a crab
frail jay
probablynot
woven otter
this will probably be bad, but go nuts
yea probably, but thats ok lol
frail jay
in poe1 enemies get stun immunity equal to stun duration when a stun ends
muted charm
Can we stun boss forever? Like 6 people doing full stunt build.
depends how fast you kill it
muted charm
in poe1 enemies get stun immunity equal to stun duration when a stun ends
stun threshold builds up more the more you stun it but decreases over time
but some assinine class like a titan building heavily into stun
frail jay
makes sense
muted charm
is a nuisance
undone ingot
ima have fun with hammer before its inevitable nerf
proven quest
Yeah unique items and high end crafted bases for poison builds using like covena...
I agree, so then why did you say that’s not how it works?
upbeat birch
Can you add elemental dmg to specific minions?
muted charm
makes sense
curious do you think its intentionally that it's pretty much impossible to put 4 points into damage on any ascencancy stormweaver being a "Technically" exception
undone ingot
Can you add elemental dmg to specific minions?
likely, this will probably be done primarily via uniques
frail jay
I agree, so then why did you say that’s not how it works?
Because one of those is a unique item giving a bunch of chaos, and the other is a unique item giving a bunch of chaos, so you definitely shouldn't plan a build around that. I mean yeah surely there will be a unique item that gives a bunch of chaos and you can do that, I just don't think it's a good idea to theorize with that.
undone ingot
curious do you think its intentionally that it's pretty much impossible to put 4...
you can put 4 points into warbringer dps wym
frail jay
curious do you think its intentionally that it's pretty much impossible to put 4...
I mean you can on invoker
frail jay
you can on gemling
muted charm
oh tureee
frail jay
you can on titan
muted charm
you can technically go unbound ailments winter/shock at same time, and take the first crit node
explain
undone ingot
titan barely even has dps
frail jay
I count colossal capacity as a damage node, it clearly does nothing to balance hulking form
frigid hill
hehe
muted charm
Hulkikng form
frail jay
hulking form is 4 points in damage
muted charm
also gives defense though
frail jay
That's a weird thing to care about
muted charm
Less than you'd think
frail jay
can basically go 4 points in offense on PF
muted charm
we had classes lik elemntalist and assasain in poe1
who wewre entirely defined by their damage output
poe2 classes don't really do that
frail jay
elementalist and assassin had defensive stuff though?
I don't think I ever played an elementalist without the shield
vocal nova
100% armour/200%crit /200% dmg , etc *50% ?
proven quest
Because one of those is a unique item giving a bunch of chaos, and the other is ...
I agree that you shouldn’t plan around uniques, I just brought it up because there’s an ascendancy that gives a bunch of chaos haha
undone ingot
im planning on going these on warbringer. defense is for people that get hit
frail jay
I agree that you shouldn’t plan around uniques, I just brought it up because the...
ok fair
what build are you playing with those?
something slams with seismic?
undone ingot
thats exactly right
solar drum
im thinking about titan or warbringer bear + warcries
frail jay
I feel like it's not worth the warcry nodes because cries exert multiple attacks and you can reduce CD with supports and passives, andthe gameplay is a lot slower so you should consume exerts slower too
undone ingot
well, youre wrong
frail jay
unless you're doing corrupted cry
undone ingot
double exert
frail jay
oh I guess that's fair, they both eat endurance
and then you don't have to solve endurance
proven quest
Yup, not having to deal with generating endurance charges does sound nice
frail jay
I wonder if corrupting cry or the curse one will be good
muted charm
Oh btw @frail jay Suggestion for skills to aid ball lightning
frail jay
Hand of Chayula Deadeye 
undone ingot
you can also double exert. 100% fire gained is quite a lot on hammer of the gods. and time it right to the the extra attack from seismic cry
muted charm
Haven't seen many that synergize with tis slightly...........specific wants as a skill
frail jay
Oh you're asking?
muted charm
yeah
frail jay
My backup invoker build has BL
proven quest
I wonder if corrupting cry or the curse one will be good
I was thinking the same thing, I’m assuming corrupted blood is 10 stacks still?
undone ingot
also you can slap inspiration on your primary warcry and it becomes a life/mana generator
muted charm
yea htis is a build around ball lightning only use ball lightning love ball lightning storm weaver
i was thinking of going crit which would open up options
proven quest
you can also double exert. 100% fire gained is quite a lot on hammer of the gods...
And with all the more multiplier supports
muted charm
but shock+archamge syenrgies make that investment really not worth it when it already has only 9% crit
pastel forge
best way to build crit ball lightning is bloodmage
stormweaver better avoiding crit imo
undone ingot
And with all the more multiplier supports
yeah thats what my hammer of gods looks like, so all the more hits both the fire and the phys
frail jay
@muted charm
pastel forge
unless the storms thing is really strong
frail jay
zombies should probably be something else I was just like fuck it I can generate power charges with a notable why not
raven sparrow
Anyone have an idea how to build the Chronomancer? If not, who cares. I’m going for it.
muted charm
oooh
i like that cast on shock idea
mauybe specifgically go out of my way to get spirit for it
undone ingot
zombies should probably be something else I was just like fuck it I can generate...
i kinda like them as mobile bombs for minion insta
presumably they have a shitload of life
muted charm
that use of inevitable critrical
really fucking funny btw
"I barely cast this skill anyways. Mines well"
proven quest
yeah thats what my hammer of gods looks like, so all the more hits both the fire...
That’s the links I was going to use, but replace reduced cooldown with hourglass 
thorny path
<@1126817999345688606>
You actually have only one damage support in that entire thing
frail jay
The idea is you spam BL, BL shocks a shitload, shock spam EoWs, EoW hits a bunch and triggers tons of expllosions from Elemental Discharge. You also crit a lot so you get defensive ice novas, and you get EI charge from ailments so you can frostbolt which will give more freeze from the ice novas and chilled ground
thorny path
How did you accomplish this
frail jay
You can also comet on EI but the mana might be really rough
frail jay
You actually have only one damage support in that entire thing
well wrong, but whatever
frigid hill
Looks mana intensive but sounds cool
frail jay
Yeah probably throw inspiration on whatever eats the most mana
thorny path
well wrong, but whatever
and Added Cold Damage supp is for attacks
frigid hill
yea hard to know at this point how to solve mana
frail jay
probably do volley or something
thorny path
You need damage supports
undone ingot
That’s the links I was going to use, but replace reduced cooldown with hourglass...
yeah, i dont love making the CDR longer. TBH ive been playing around with putting hourglass on Sunder and using that for AOE situations where you have some armour breaks out so you can get auto crit/auto crit shockwaves. should be good in aoe. Use something like Earthshatter as a generator and use this set up for totems to really crank the armour break
frail jay
or cold mastery
frail jay
You need damage supports
what supports would you change
thorny path
You literally only have Ele Focus on that entire thing
frail jay
spell echo is a damage support too
proven quest
yeah thats what my hammer of gods looks like, so all the more hits both the fire...
Oh ya, and I was going to replace exploit weakness with something because I’m a monk and I wanna mantra and bonk 
frail jay
so is more duration
thorny path
spell echo is a damage support too
two times zero equals zero
frail jay
so is faster casting
pastel forge
seems like non-archmage, interesting to see if the dmg is still decent
frail jay
two times zero equals zero
???
thorny path
so is faster casting
oh have you played poe1?
thorny path
Are you aware that you need to put the supports that have %more damage on them?
faster casting isn't adding damage
frail jay
it's more dps
frigid hill
I wanna do gemling 2xUnleash, can only think of frostbolt+ice nova. any other combos?
frail jay
sure buddy
undone ingot
Oh ya, and I was going to replace exploit weakness with something because I’m a ...
im trying to figure out how to fit in mantra to auto crit the hammer so i can ignore the stat completely
thorny path
I didn't think I'd have to explain the concept of doing no damage faster being bad
frail jay
well you have yet to actually say anything useful
pastel forge
oh didnt realize poe2 db got updated looks
frail jay
yeah...
thorny path
I'm not wasting my time fixing another doomed build I've seen 15 just today
You need to change everything about it, I'll say that much
undone ingot
THIS IS NOT A DRILL https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/
frail jay
Ah yes, conceding that I;m right, thanks
hoary bolt
wont load for me
thorny path
Lemme just ask this, and please answer
frail jay
Say build is bad, get asked what would be better, "Oh I'm not going to bother replying"
proven quest
<@1126817999345688606>
What are the raise zombies for?
frail jay
classic
thorny path
Have you played poe1?
frail jay
What are the raise zombies for?
because I thought fuck it why not, should probably be HoI or HoL
frail jay
Just read guides the whole time?
mostly make my own builds
thorny path
Doubt it
proven quest
because I thought fuck it why not, should probably be HoI or HoL
Minion pact could do something
frail jay
most successful character was actually an OG build I was the first person to make and became pretty meta for a bit
thorny path
ok buddy
frail jay
Flame Wall Spellslinger in Heist, the gem was bugged at leaguestart and gained EXP as if it was a level 20 gem so no one played it but I did fire trap and bought one someone dropped
that was 16
You still have yet to actually make any recommendation on what you would change
frail jay
Which ones
thorny path
You know what those are right, mr 5k hours?
native widget
<@1126817999345688606>
i dont think putting those on CoC is a good idea
thorny path
If you're gonna spam ball lightning, why the fuck is inevitable critical on it
frail jay
If you're gonna spam ball lightning, why the fuck is inevitable critical on it
more CoC energy
native widget
if that triggers freeze, it wont generate energy
frail jay
I assume the main damage is going to be the elemental discharges
kinda hard to tell because there's 6 different spells
thorny path
more CoC energy
wtf do you even mean by this, you're spamming it, the support is useless
frail jay
Can't really get more than 3 damage supports on elemental discharge, and it has 3 damage supports currently
what?
native widget
holy shit
frail jay
Have you read the support? It's not like it loses crit when you cast it
native widget
db already has all the new datamines
frail jay
the crit chance of BL might take a couple casts to crit
thorny path
Have you read the support? It's not like it loses crit when you cast it
LMAO
I'm done you actually can't read either
see ya
thorny path
<@137603604105134080>what is added cold damage doing on there tho
Don't bother he's a lost cause
frail jay
<@137603604105134080>what is added cold damage doing on there tho
Yeah I took that out already
that was the only thing he said that was actually helpful
frail jay
ok? Still does the same thing? BL is there to shock and crit for CoS and CoC
If it shocks it doesn't need more damage
it needs more crit
rich dawn
what acendancies are looking the best
keen dagger
You can't allocate CoS and CoC
copper falcon
im going stormweaver
keen dagger
Unless you're Invoker*
frail jay
You can't allocate CoS and CoC
???
native widget
DAMN WTF
keen dagger
You get 180 spirit and they both cost 100 spirit, and I don't see any other spirit gains in the mods
frail jay
You get 180 spirit and they both cost 100 spirit, and I don't see any other spir...
oh yeah, it is invoker
there's spirit runes too
but yeah invoker
frail jay
time to find out if I even have to play that build or if we're logging into EI comet
pastel forge
frigid hill
Nice, jewels can roll leech
pastel forge
time to play fire arch bloodmage
frail jay
are the metagems not uploaded?
keen dagger
That seems good for triggered spells
pastel forge
its good for arc that barely has useable supps
native widget
spicy new supports
already told yall that
frail jay
wow there's a lot of new stuff
frigid hill
eww the grenade supports are ass lmao
pastel forge
oh damn
native widget
🙂
pastel forge
archmage goes up to 6% mana costs
native widget
yep
frail jay
Incendiary Shot is dead 
frail jay
My main build RIP
native widget
frail jay
Yo this is sick
keen dagger
I wonder how viable hybrid will be, I was thinking of some sort of melee Invoker with CoS + Eye of Winter over the shocking ground + 5x Comet from the other support
frail jay
Reap is in 
frigid hill
lmao
thorny path
Ok the dataminers have won so I will be leaving now unlucky
frigid hill
ciao
static cipher
😢
thorny path
@frail jay it's not too late for you, put some damage on that shitty ass build
static cipher
hold me
frail jay
Comet not nerfed with triggers 
undone ingot
ur welcome
rich dawn
what accendancies are looking strong
frail jay
<@137603604105134080> it's not too late for you, put some damage on that shitty ...
Where? The thing I think is the main damage has 3 damage supports
frail jay
and it can only have 3
keen dagger
I wonder if the +1 cast time on Comet will impact the energy it needs to trigger?
pastel forge
casino mage
frail jay
I wonder if the +1 cast time on Comet will impact the energy it needs to trigger...
nope, the energy is base cast time, comet adds to total
Otherwise you could trigger faster by getting cast speed
frigid hill
oh its true random, thought it would be sequencial
pastel forge
archmage+conflux
keen dagger
Yeah, that's why I was thinking it could be strong to use ailment trigger to cast multiple Comets at once
pastel forge
seesh
native widget
bro how do I manage triple str attribute with fucking dex skills
play gem link
keen dagger
- the node with chance to retain half energy
frail jay
Wait dark effigy is sick
it fires an extra projectile per shot per chaos debuff on the enemy
pastel forge
ew
frail jay
you can get like 6 of those can't you?
native widget
What
frail jay
native widget
Ngl actually a buff
static cipher
play gem link <:kek:1045021806144262244>
wdym gem link
native widget
The 50less damage is gone
static cipher
im playing gemling and going double support gems / 10% quality
pastel forge
its a nerf for single target, buff for aoe
static cipher
oh
yea bro idk if thats gunna save me tho
💀
im doing it anyway
but MUCH tigher fit now
tighter*
native widget
Wait, can you guys log in rn?
static cipher
no
frail jay
bonestorm is going to be incredibly disgusting
native widget
Or is it only console able to log in
frail jay
with attacks
static cipher
console cant login either brubru
thin basin
Yo dd ignite bleed back on the menu wtf
frigid hill
omg negative armour is capped by base armour, that one chatter was right
i feel like it sucks now
static cipher
what does this mean for breaking armour below 0
frigid hill
if they had 1000 armour, they can only go -1000
static cipher
LOL
native widget
Chain support will bring it up to 12
thin basin
On the other hand, dark pact is back
static cipher
only good if you can get it past 4000
frigid hill
yea i think so
wintry condor
does Monk and Shadow h ave the same starting node?
native widget
Thats 180 more damage
frail jay
🦴
pastel forge
Chain support will bring it up to 12
you mean 14
frail jay
Essence Harvest 
frigid hill
Yes Vash, but no Shadow in EA yet
pastel forge
14x15 = 210% more
old version:
6x50 = 300% more
wintry condor
Yes Vash, but no Shadow in EA yet
awesome ty
pastel forge
its ST nerf
main jetty
is the tree on poe2db accurate? didnt they say they were going to change EB somehow? or does it still turn ES into mana?
native widget
Yeah but it also doesnt have 50% less damage
pastel forge
50% less doesnt matter in ST context
native widget
Huh?
upbeat birch
Druid and Templar is the north west part of the tree hmm.
pastel forge
single target
proven quest
Mantra of destruction got hit hard
frail jay
native widget
It has 50% less damage on arc before, you know that right?
static cipher
I'd imagine that's like a spoiler placeholder thing bro
frigid hill
placeholder quality i assume
native widget
like by default
undone ingot
omg negative armour is capped by base armour, that one chatter was right
whered you find that?
frigid hill
whered you find that?
PoeDb2
static cipher
If they cap negative armour at -1000 its garbage
frail jay
yo wtf this is sick
pastel forge
It has 50% less damage on arc before, you know that right?
isnt that just for each time it chains?
frail jay
Mana: solved
frigid hill
Chuan implemented tooltips, what a hero
native widget
isnt that just for each time it chains?
No, 50% less damage
frail jay
that's a wand implicit
wands
native widget
isnt that just for each time it chains?
Ohhh ok nvm. They moved it onto chain support
crisp summit
bro 💀
this only applies to weapons requirement not skill reqs...so for a mace you'll need a lot of strength but no dex. running anything non-str in weapon swap will be miserable though
pastel forge
No, 50% less damage
cant find the old version to verify so i take your word i guess
native widget
thin basin
If this does what i think it does
native widget
cant find the old version to verify so i take your word i guess
They moved 50% less damage onto chain support
frigid hill
i think they showed that one?
frigid hill
uniques i dont want to spoil for myself though
native widget
Its over
undone ingot
.... does this mean you cant break rare/unique monster armour?
short timber
They moved 50% less damage onto chain support
chain support is so ass
frail jay
the site keeps breaking lol
hoary bolt
.... does this mean you cant break rare/unique monster armour?
what? no
pastel forge
arc 5 chains base: 5x15 = 75% more on single target
arc+chain supp 6x2 = 12 chains, 50% less dmg
(12x15)/2 = 90% more on single target
frigid hill
I read that as 1x armour break vs rares/uniques
hoary bolt
theres just no bonus mult
undone ingot
same
frigid hill
sheesh
undone ingot
i mean hammer gets up to 32k%
pastel forge
sooo chain gives arc 8.5% more single target dmg, but weakens the aoe aspect by a lot
wintry condor
is the https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree datamined at this point? and if so, I don't see how EB has changed...
short timber
falling thunder is a 2840% damage skill btw
with power chagres though
undone ingot
... well yeah =p
frail jay
Holy fuck it's so good
keen dagger
There's a quarterstaff skill that gives +1 power charge by consuming shock and Invoker gets shocking ground on shock
Assuming you can consume the shock from ground
undone ingot
theres just no bonus mult
oh i didnt realize that's a multiplier?
fleet blaze
anyone see any Invoker build guides coming out after new info?
hoary bolt
hits every .4 seconds guaranteed
native widget
WAIT, i assume this adds to base right?
frail jay
I have 2 invoker builds
keen dagger
Shock is based on damage dealt though
pastel forge
is the https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree datamined at this point? and if s...
doesn't even load for me /shurg
hoary bolt
so?
frail jay
WAIT, i assume this adds to base right?
yes
fleet blaze
I have 2 invoker builds
mind sharing? skill tree included?
keen dagger
I doubt Lightning Storm will be able to shock unless you're building spell damage
hoary bolt
put shock supports on it
im 100% sure you can shock with it without building fully into spells
undone ingot
WAIT, i assume this adds to base right?
yah
frail jay
mind sharing? skill tree included?
I forget how much skill tree I have but sure
frigid hill
imagine tornado working with grenades
hoary bolt
there are like 3 shock chance supports
frail jay
mind sharing? skill tree included?
DM me I can't DM you
livid ridge
What spells are looking juicy for an archmage stormweaver now?
pearl sluice
Build anxiety build anxiety build anxiety titan or bloodmage titan or bloodmage titan or bloodmage
thin basin
REAP AND EXANG IS IN THE GAME???
crisp summit
yeah with 24 second cooldown
it has 0.6s attack speed, you need power charges and theres no way to dual wield 2H staves...hammer will still win out in raw damage for big hits for ailments
distant dome
this is actually pretty big for bloodmage - small node before blood barbs
pearl sluice
Guys am I right to feel that Titan is more of a 2nd leaguestarter type of deal
undone ingot
this is still kinda good. if a monster had 30% pdr then they will have 30% increased dmg taken. not terrible. not great, not terrible
woven sinew
this is actually pretty big for bloodmage - small node before blood barbs
Theres a node like that on the tree as well
distant dome
tender crane
is the passive tree on poe2db correct though?? if so, I dont see the mini aegis aurora passive anymore 😢
frigid hill
this is still kinda good. if a monster had 30% pdr then they will have 30% incre...
it's not great imo
thin basin
2 of them to be exaxt AHAHHAHA
wintry condor
i can't decide on what 8 nodes I want from Chayula XD
pearl sluice
Because small passive skills need to scale to endgame levels to get the most out of it so you'd want to pump it early with a smurf set
wintry condor
we will be able to change those around right? Just not the actual ascendancy?
distant dome
fuck
undone ingot
it's not great imo
its not, and it might be better to just take the spirits and use the thing that yoinks their life to give 40% more dmg
distant dome
i clicked a button and the website died
frigid hill
Correct, Vash
keen dagger
Ghost Dancer + Wind Dancer seems pretty great for Invoker too
short timber
oh god
frigid hill
its not, and it might be better to just take the spirits and use the thing that ...
Me go warbringer explode minions with Sacrifice 
rich dawn
so we get 8 accendancy point right
short timber
Falling Thunder LOGIN
native widget
are there any sites with datamined passive tree that you can actually save?
crisp summit
wtf the regen nodes got cut in half, 0.2% regen at warrior start are yikes
distant dome
uhhh
damn I accidently clicked on a link back to the homepage and now I can't reload this
FML
honest hawk
how do things like this work in poe 1 + CI? do you die from only having 1 life?
woven sinew
I was thinking armor/es anyway for chest anyway
hoary bolt
3% of 1 doesnt round down
keen dagger
The trigger notables looks really good
hoary bolt
lies
thin basin
Theres 200% minion life node on the tree
stable linden
So... Arc bad now? That was the only thing I wanted to start with T.T
thin basin
Do with rhat info as u will
gloomy ice
https://poe2db.tw/us/passive-skill-tree/
doesnt for me :/
frail jay
Bro why does a level 1 skeletal sniper cost 90 spirit how the fuck do you summon that at level 1 
hoary bolt
maybe we get more spirit now
distant dome
doesnt for me :/
keep trying? didn't work for me a bunch of times
hoary bolt
blasphemy is 60 per curse now too
distant dome
close/reopoen broer
pastel forge
keep trying? didn't work for me a bunch of times
which browser
frigid hill
blasphemy is 60 per curse now too
damn
pastel forge
oh it worked on chrome
distant dome
this looks giga nerfed
distant dome
maybe this is fixing somehting
small slate
Charged Staff confirmed a spell boys! Archmage of Chayula confirmed!
frail jay
Charged Staff confirmed a spell boys! Archmage of Chayula confirmed!
not how that works lol
small slate
frigid hill
idk about that one
native widget
Charged Staff confirmed a spell boys! Archmage of Chayula confirmed!
lol could be a mistake
crisp summit
blasphemy is 60 per curse now too
good, otherwise literally everyone would be running it. even now if enfeeble is unchanged its too good
pastel forge
oh damn
native widget
this looks giga nerfed
what site is this
pastel forge
more crit nodes
bronze crane
native widget
Elemental Invocation remains fucking broken let's go <:Kreygasm:3972253521178787...
did you find something?
short timber
Elemental Invocation remains fucking broken let's go <:Kreygasm:3972253521178787...
hhaha yeah it's crazy
pastel forge
ewww
hoary bolt
charged staff doesnt deal damage
pastel forge
mana blossom gone, replaced with es
hoary bolt
this literally wont work whatsoever
frail jay
did you find something?
They just didn't add the "once per skill use" thing to it still, CoC is the same
crisp summit
damn RIP jugg regen....changed to recoup
frail jay
so you can go crazy with ailment spam and energy generation
distant dome
no power charge?
native widget
They just didn't add the "once per skill use" thing to it still, CoC is the same
what skill are u using to trigger?
frail jay
gutted 
frail jay
what skill are u using to trigger?
probably BL shocks
native widget
no power charge?
wait holy shit
muted charm
@frail jay I looked to double check somenthing
native widget
this is actually so pog rn with storm weaver
muted charm
0/0 chaos skils are staves
frail jay
I'm still questioning Viper's "triggered skills can't generate energy" comment and this that might only apply to the "once per skill use" things but we'll see
small slate
this literally wont work whatsoever
It has it's own Lightning Damage listed so I don't see why not
keen dagger
In PoE1 projectile damage is snapshotted when the projectile is created right?
small slate
just like any other spell
muted charm
cast on x is going to be a lot less powerful if you dont make the original skil deal damage
but its still nice
hoary bolt
the shockwave is attached to your attacks
pastel forge
hoary bolt
even if it counted as dealing damage itself it would be attack damage
pastel forge
WAT
native widget
WAT
frail jay
cast on x is going to be a lot less powerful if you dont make the original skil ...
I mean there's also skills that make applying ailments easier, don't just need damage
native widget
holy fuck stormweaver is actually broken now
bronze crane
holy fuck stormweaver is actually broken now
yes
distant dome
holy fuck stormweaver is actually broken now
which kind of broken
native widget
reminder this will stack with the accendency node because its increaase
and the accendency node is more
😮
you gonna have like 400% arcane surge
hoary bolt
like you might be able to buff the shockwave
but thats not a spell
the buff itself is a spell
distant dome
is this tree accurate?
native widget
yo please
frigid hill
Ghost Dance looks absurd
native widget
what site is this
frail jay
frigid hill
xd
native widget
?????????????????????????
near acorn
what site is this
Poe2db has everything afaik
hoary bolt
how the fuck are you guys loading this shit
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Poe2db has everything afaik
its shit tho
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they removed all % maximum mana
this is so fucking troll
gloomy ice
how the fuck are you guys loading this shit
i know right
frail jay
Wait EB is still there
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might as well just delete MoM at this point
pastel forge
what site is this
poe2db tree opened on chrome
near acorn
Simply spam refresh, it'll help their servers
near acorn
Lol
sage sorrel
guys, can someone please tell me what would be good skill gems to do with the blood mage witch? please
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mana is saved
wait what is it now
frail jay
flameblast bleed
same thing
they probably just fixed the discipline infinite loop that was crashing servers
pastel forge
sorry, let me correct myself
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pastel forge
you get 1x 5% maximum mana node
muted charm
jesus christ fam
frail jay
pastel forge
muted charm
"Sorry pf just in case you didn't have perma life/mana flask sustain."
small slate
the buff itself is a spell
"1 to (2-22) added quaterstaff attack lightning damage per power"
It lists damage just like any other spell, so let's see tomorrow!
frail jay
"1 to (2-22) added quaterstaff attack lightning damage per power"
It lists dama...
that won't work with archmage no
hoary bolt
im telling you 100000% it will not work
frigid hill
gonna take me forever to internalize all these new names on support gems
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wait what does invoke mean exactly?
frail jay
it's not spell damage, it's a buff that gives extra attack damage
frail jay
wait what does invoke mean exactly?
probably when you use an invocation to cast a spell, so that means that my mana draining comets won't fuck my mana nearly as much
pastel forge
sooooo
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pastel forge
they replaced the max mana nodes
keen dagger
'If the Eye passes over an Elemental ground surface, it will take on that surface's effect, applying it to nearby enemies and causing shards to deal more damage of the corresponding type.' This sounds like it ignores ailment threshold?
pastel forge
with mana regen
keen dagger
Shocking Ground + Eye of Winter to feed Power Charges
frail jay
'If the Eye passes over an Elemental ground surface, it will take on that surfac...
I missed that
hmm
undone ingot
https://poe2db.tw/us/Skill_Gems heads up, if you are planning on usings gems in the t14 category just know that you will need to purchase them or probably kill a pinnacle boss
distant dome
30% bleed chance form these nodes
frail jay
flameblast bleed
pastel forge
ok so
distant dome
with nodes from Blood Mage, we can get 45% chance to bleed (15% is conditional on crit)
frail jay
They put glancing blows even further from warbringer wtf man
why is glancing blows over there
muted charm
magnified, slower porj, wildshard.
ball lightning is special cause it shares 0 supports with other skillls
azure vessel
guys i dont see life node
keen dagger
I thought there was a node that gave power charges on ailment, but I can't find it
midnight bolt
was passive tree datamined yet?
frigid hill
makes sense lmao
supple escarp
crit mage back in business
gl getting crit
cerulean oracle
with nodes from Blood Mage, we can get 45% chance to bleed (15% is conditional o...
frail jay
hoary plover
what tree planner is that
frail jay
poedb
pastel forge
gl getting crit
there's quite a bit actually
and bloodmage giving 15% base crit
bloodmage alone has 2x 12% crit for spells
opaque nacelle
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link to these tree plese?
azure vessel
supple escarp
i feel like crit is def gonna be more of a endgame thingy in poe 2
distant dome
wasn't this removed?
frail jay
supple escarp
u get an easier time getting it with blood mage tho thats true