2┃after-acts-help

[icy pecan]

I'm looking for Anoint for my amulet but I can't see them through the passive tree when I use ALT T,T i duno what i change on setings... T,T

[junior hornet]

dunno about ingame but this is what pob says

[icy pecan]

yeah i know pob have it but for fast check inside of game... is very usefull too

[solid abyss]

I'm level 72. What level should I make sure the monsters are in maps?

[long sonnet]

you don't even get any map xp penalty until like 75

pob has this feature btw if you hover over the level

[rotund trench]

I would just keep trying higher waystones until you need to fix something.

That's whay I'm doing anyway.

[viral stratus]

I try to be within 3 levels for optimal xp gain

[solid abyss]

Thanks everyone

[rotund trench]

If a waystone curses you with enfeeble, how much is your damage reduced?

Oh, it shows when you start the map (-20% dmg dealt).

[spiral imp]

Which non trial boss is comparable to trial master?

[novel crow]

hrm lots of phys damage with windups, maybe silverfist?

or whatever the atlas version of him is called in riverside I think

the attacks are obviously different but similar damage

[rotund trench]

what is 'place explosives' called in the options>input menu?

[rotund trench]

I was messing with my keybinds and it unset 'skill 1'. It just says 'NOT SET' and won't let me change it. Any suggestions?

[sturdy thorn]

reset to standard?

[warm gorge]

what kind of damage is tempest bell? Physical or something else?

[idle hazel]

Should just be your weapon's damage, plus the converted damage from any ailments applied to it.

[rustic canyon]

do you gain/loose xp in area from opening breachstone in realmgate?

I seem to be wasting omens or amelioration

[idle hazel]

I believe most of those encounters no longer grant experience, and you don't lose experience from them either.

[placid fern]

anyone have any opinions about running all the corrupted map nodes first and nexus last or vice versa?

[rustic canyon]

how do I get atlas ritual points?

[thorn rose]

I went through the campaign as rake zon. Is LS that good that it’d be worth speccing into?

[ripe pumice]

Find an "audience with the king" in a rituals window and kill the boss

[rustic canyon]

does it give all the points, or just 2?

I had chance to buy that one in ritual rewards, was checking price later, looked cheap, but no idea where to put it in

[bleak urchin]

just 2 i thinks

[thorny widget]

guys do totems snapshot only the weapon sets or passives too? idk how to use deepest tower correctly with them (i summon totems on set2 with 2 maces)

[ripe pumice]

You need to put it in the realmgate near the start of your atlas
https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/The_Realmgate

2 points per encounter, you just need to allocate the points for +1 difficulty before starting the next audience

[proven spoke]

did my lush isle spawn with 0 hoards?

[fathom vigil]

anyone have a good expedition atlas setup?

[naive parrot]

Hi, can someone help me, I dont fucking know how I should go kill those last rare monster.... Cant enter where I put red circle, its close ..

[queen cloak]

If i attempt the 4th Sanctum boss, can i pause/exit?

[vast prism]

there are switches on the pillars right on the other side of the entrance

[amber helm]

no

[queen cloak]

So in HC

He's dangerous as fuck

I'm worried about my damage.. I'm Essence Drain

[naive parrot]

okay ty, I managed to kill them throut the wall xDD

[dull charm]

which map stats should i have in order to make runs easier for xp ?

i keep getting killed and reset my xp to 0%

[placid fern]

well if you're dying the affixes that help with xp farming are probably only going to make you die more. there is a straight increased XP gained affix but also increases to monster pack size and the number of rare monsters will increase the amount of xp you get. if you're dying a lot there is a passive tree/gearing problem to solve

[dull charm]

well, the defenses are low and i need the next level to fix that

to give me 60% more shields

[edgy solstice]

I have a few towers juiced for XP if you want an xp boost

[quick panther]

how do I get doriyani to keep selling me way stones?

[scenic torrent]

Level up

[quick panther]

is that really the only way? Im 87, Im not levelling up for a while

[scenic torrent]

Its just like any other vendor

Afaik at least

[dull charm]

ssure. sry for the late reply

[edgy solstice]

No worries, IGN: Bonkerizer

[placid fern]

i think he refreshes daily or something

[dull charm]

sent

[rustic canyon]

I was trying to find some guide how to get essence atlas points and how to farm them efficiently, but wasn't lucky

[placid fern]

essence nodes are on the main tree

all those blue nodes to the bottom right

[rustic canyon]

yes, just was checking it

so atlas tree points are from nexuses?

[placid fern]

as well as unique maps

[rustic canyon]

are there any tricks, like corrupting essence while mapping?

30d for socket essence sounds crazy

[placid fern]

i always carry a full stack of vaal orbs to corrupt them

[quick panther]

thanks, ill check tomorrow, but it doesnt seem like he is. I am on T9 Maps and would like to advance to higher T. I was buying the waystones from doriyani to fuse into higher T, is there another way? Or do I just need to hope more than one drops in a map

[rustic canyon]

thanks

[rustic canyon]

are there tablets for essences?

[placid fern]

i went back through patch notes to try and confirm but all they said was "Doryani now has up to 10 Waystones available to purchase, either at Tier 1, or one Tier below your highest-completed Tier." in the change to his shop

[placid fern]

yes there is a tablet affix on irradiated tablets that can give %chance to finding essence

[rustic canyon]

what are azmeri spirits?

[placid fern]

the best way to sustain waystones is completing map nodes with bosses since they are guaranteed to drop, as you progress from tier 1 up the chances for waystone drops diminishes and you need to supplement with both nodes on the atlas tree and juicing your maps with waystone drop chance

[placid fern]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Azmerian_wisp

if you travel to the grelwood in act one i believe there is a static encounter with Delwyn, the NPC that teaches you about the spirits

[rustic canyon]

thanks was thinking so

[rustic canyon]

oh, I was only following spirit to kill monsters, didn't read what he wrote or listen to him

[placid fern]

yeah that's them

[quick panther]

I see. Thank you for the help

[rotund trench]

If you do a boss map with T9 it should give you T10.

[quick panther]

how can you tell its a boss map?

[open cobalt]

stupid-ish question about running maps/the atlas.

[placid fern]

https://i.imgur.com/y5X3Bk8.png

symbol on the left

[open cobalt]

Should I just choose a random direction to go and spam run the maps as fast as I can, then put the tablets in the tower (not getting into the specifics of tower combinations) clear those and repeat or should work out in a spiral from the start, or any other suggestions

[placid fern]

i look for towers that are near each other

you can just beeline it in whatever direction you want really

[open cobalt]

okay thanks, I am already slow enough running the maps, trying to get mo better

[rotund trench]

Does that mean at higher tiers, the boss isn't guaranteed to drop a tier higher or do you mean that random drops are less likely?

[placid fern]

the boss drop is always guaranteed, the drops from the last rare of each map that is increased at lower tiers diminishes

these two affixes are what to target at higher tiers along with some nodes on your atlas

i think i get at least 2-3 extra waystones per map on nodes like this, half of which end up being sold to doryani because temporal chains

[rotund trench]

I did a temporal chains yesterday. It made me slower, but didn't seem that bad.

But I still haven't reached a tier that is very hard for me.

[quick panther]

I killed a boss and it did not drop a waystone

[rotund trench]

The final boss?

[placid fern]

temp chains by itself isnt that scary but when i also have -max res and other bs im just like nah no ty

[rotund trench]

According to https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Waystone version history 0.2.0d: Final Map Bosses and the final naturally-occurring Rare Monsters in Tier 1 maps have a 100% chance to drop a waystone.

So maybe not 100% if > tier 1

Unless that means "an extra waystone" for the boss.

[open cobalt]

what is generally considered easier to get third ascenday the tiral or of sek, or chaos?

[rotund trench]

Not sure, but I used all my two floor sekemas to practice and get familiar with setting up relics and choosing rooms and then bought a lvl 66 to do it. The practice made it pretty easy.

[open cobalt]

I just gotta remember to watch my honour.. lol

[rotund trench]

Yeah, don't get hit. Have max honour resistance. Choose rooms/paths wisely.

[sage wave]

Looking for help/support in 3rd ascendancy please🙏

[amber helm]

#2┃looking-for-group

[quick panther]

Do maps ever NOT drop a waystone? at all?

[quick panther]

ive made it to 11

[open cobalt]

welp, failed at that twice, gotta do some house work now.. lol

[queen cloak]

Is this the 4th boss?

[civic kernel]

It's the last trial, with the boss at the end

[queen cloak]

Wait, so there are still rooms before the boss?

I need the movement speed boom or i'm out

[civic kernel]

No, just the loot room, if you don't dfie

[queen cloak]

Uh

I shouldn't enter then, i'm HC, i need the MS affliction

Otherwise it's too risky

[charred totem]

Playing hardcore in poe2 dawn of nerfs? Xd

[queen cloak]

Yeah, my second character ever ni HC, level 86

By some miracle......

[charred totem]

How many times u did quick logout pause? Xd

[heavy kayak]

Has it ever been confirmed what all the things in Ventor’s trove are

[queen cloak]

1 time, almost died to Volatlie plants, so i don't count that as weakness

They will be nerfed next patch, they are unfair

[queen cloak]

[charred totem]

Only players will be nerfed, monsters buffed

[violet adder]

can someone help me to lvling end game im 64 now

[sour pine]

Is there a complete detailed guide out there on how to craft well in this game ? I don't know what I'm doing really, just slamming orbs left and right and hoping for the best, but doesn't give results

[somber stump]

hi. is completing towers with a t16 map worthy? it's true that this will increase the tablets stats once completed?

[amber lava]

just spent 50d trying to craft a mirror tier quarter staff, ended up with a 2 line staff with fractured +7 melee skills and thats all.. rip

-50d

theres goes my life savings

[amber helm]

isnt the concept of 50d for a mirror tier item already impossible

[placid fern]

lol this guy belongs on wsb

[scenic torrent]

They exist. The best thing to do and what im currently trying to do is learn the best bases. Then to know what your looking for, then when to stop slamming. Time will be the best teacher. I couldve made 2 div earlier doing this but risked a Vaal and bricked it. Im not going to claim to be super knowledgeable. As i said im just starting to get into it. I can try and help however i can

Ive been trying to stop once I get a Bad roll on something.

[oblique holly]

I am level 88 as a Smith of Kitava Warrior in abject poverty awaiting 2.1 to drop.

How can I grind currency reasonably while working a full time job and having responsibilities outside of work?

[small rune]

is the asinia fight bugged

I noticed draven never says anything when summoned

but going into cruel he said "yes my beloved"

never heard it ever

[scenic torrent]

Depends how much currency?

[rotund trench]

On the trade site is there a way to search for items that have a specific number of affixes?

[scenic torrent]

No

[oblique holly]

Enough to get some of the better uniques and rares to make powerful build

[scenic torrent]

Divs? Ex?

[oblique holly]

Lets say at least 1 div an hour

[scenic torrent]

If you can do Trials of Chaos the 10 room ones are pretty lucrative

[oblique holly]

My current build is slow, and physically squishy with not enough damage

Elementally I can eat hits tho

[scenic torrent]

Sukma-ass is also alright

Um.

Investing Rituals could be profitable but profit isnt guaranteed

Imo your Best bet is Either Chaos trials or trying to learn crafting

[oblique holly]

If it helps, most of my skills at L18 with only HOTG & Earthshatter at max links

Using an older cArn build from Maxroll

[oblique holly]

I would love to craft, but I need a startup fund first

[scenic torrent]

Its not all that expensive. Run maps get good bases Slam them if you get bad stuff on it stasg and recomb.

I cant gauge the power of your build brother. Thats something youll have to decide. Whats easy for me may not be for you etc.

Chaos trials are basically free and in the longer-term are very profitable

[placid fern]

nooo i lost a div in a ritual cause im bad

[scenic torrent]

I lost 3 afew days ago. I didnt have enough to defer them all.

[placid fern]

this one dropped and then i died to the blood wave lmao

[scenic torrent]

Oh no

Seeing div drop on death screen make me cry

If I was to see a mirror id just uninstall

[placid fern]

im at level 90 and starting to hit a ceiling with difficulty so im just running cracked maps but occasionally i get overwhelmed

[scenic torrent]

Liek game to easy?

[placid fern]

for running maps yeah

getting consistent t16s to push higher monsters levels is still not soemthing i've solved, i just remapped into more waystone chance in hopes i can get more to corrupt

[scenic torrent]

Yea My buddy whos 95 is struggling keeping 16s

[placid fern]

im doing good with pinnacles so far, beat t3 xesht and t2 king of the mists/olroth so far

t3 xesht was super hard though i have like no resitance to chill or freeze and it was hairy

[scenic torrent]

I just had my friend 2 ahot him

[placid fern]

found a second citadel while trying to juice the stone one i've been working around all day

[rustic canyon]

any tips how to find corrupted nexus on map?

[placid fern]

look for the red glow in the fog

[rustic canyon]

like this?

[placid fern]

that's a citadel

requires t15 or t16 waystone to open

[rotund trench]

If there is a tower it will have vines like this:

It's clearer on the map. that image is poor

[rustic canyon]

found the red smoke on map like twice, but it's really far away

[rotund trench]

Sounds like a nice destination to head for.

oh no, now I got to think about this

[rustic canyon]

are they going to do something about freezes/crashes? It's quite annoying if you go to boss and die without chance to do anything.

it happens like once per hour, regardless what you are doing

[rotund trench]

I've only had one crash/freeze.

Must depend on system

[rustic canyon]

well it happened to me when I had trade with other player as well at high intensity battle, it really doesn't matter what I am doing

[placid fern]

i get this abhorrent cpu stuttering i can't figure out

updated my bios, turned off shit in bios

[rotund trench]

yeah, me too, but for some reason it hasn't been an issue today. first day since I started.

[placid fern]

every 10-15 seconds cpu speed jumps to 100-200 ms and the game stutters briefly

[rotund trench]

I did increase shader storage yesterday in nvidia control panel. that may have done it, but I didn't notice it right after I did it.

[placid fern]

restarting the game fixes it temporarily

ill give that a shot when i finish this map

[rotund trench]

mine usually stutters seriously, all the time, especially when loading new map or monsters spawn. I've been playing in slow motion.

[placid fern]

mine is mostly smooth, im not really able to tell what sets it off

[rotund trench]

yesterday my shader thing was maxed all the time. now it seems ok

if you change shader storage might be worth restarting, jik

i mean game, not computer

[junior hornet]

weird take but can you check if it happens when somebody send a message on global chat? My cpu spikes when it happens but not to the point of lagging, but people have been reporting same issue

[rotund trench]

I heard about that I changed my global/trade channels to 2112 and it didn't help.

[placid fern]

dude

my literally opening the chat window causes it

wtf

as well whenever a message comes through

ggg please

[junior hornet]

/global 4537 to switch to an empty channel

or any random number

[rotund trench]

2112 was a random number

[placid fern]

[rotund trench]

I have heard about this, but my problem was much more serious, like nearly constant severe stutter.

[placid fern]

what are your specs?

is it a 🥔

[rotund trench]

I was going to play this character until it got too hard or something then go to poe because of it, but now I might stick 🙂

Well my comp is about 5-6 years old, but i7 12 logical cpu, 32 gig ram

1080 TI, which is a good older gpu and haven't had similar issues in other games.

There are pages and pages of uncut lvl 3 support gems for 1 exalt. Why did I almost immediately have someone want to buy and ask for as many as I have?

[placid fern]

the stuttering happens when my npc talks 💀

[rotund trench]

I'm still getting it when a bunch of monsters spawn like strongbox etc, but it's much better than it was.

I might actually be able to play 1440 full screen instead of 1080 window

[placid fern]

i wonder if the game is storing chat logs and they are getting too big

literally everything related to chat i am noticing causes the stutter

[rotund trench]

I'm guessing it's a bug with how they are using shaders. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a hot fix that is making the difference for me. But for me although it's shader related, it's cpu bound.

worth anything?

[placid fern]

1 regal shard or a couple thousand gold

its ok

maybe worth something to a crafter

[rotund trench]

yeah, crafters seem like main target. If you get the right normal item it's an easy exalt.

Only one similar to this for 1 divine, 5 days ago.

[placid fern]

i have a lot of stuff that fits that description that hasn't sold

not saying yours

[rotund trench]

I'm new to selling and don't have a very good sense of value. Just experimenting.

[placid fern]

the economy is pretty diluted now

its a stinky time tbh

[rotund trench]

you mean too much sell, not enough buy?

[placid fern]

more or less yeah

the stuff people are looking for are high end chase uniques or the juiciest of rares

so mid-range gear is plentiful and generally not too expensive

but actually selling stuff is a slog lately

i hit a 10 div amulet earlier in the week that let me seriously upgrade the monkazon

[rotund trench]

That's good as I will do a gear upgrade soon. As soon as I run into a map that seems slightly hard. At T11 and still super easy

[night zinc]

lagalicious

[rotund trench]

Within a map are ritual tributes carried within the map so you can come back and use them later? I assume they are gone when you finish the map?

So I just did the first one with 580 tribute. Can I do another one and keep that 580? And can I come back to this one to check rewards?

[novel crow]

that's the chat message bug

[night zinc]

the who what now?

[rotund trench]

dang, these rituals are hard

[night zinc]

yeah, they can be a bit much

[rotund trench]

When I clicked on the last ritual, it didn't do anything, it just turned black.

[novel crow]

global and trade chat messages cause a CPU spike even if you have them silenced. Switch to some random high number channel for both that doesn't have anyone in it

You can see it happening here with the 2 messages on global chat on this video I used for the bug report: https://youtu.be/iTPySB7o48A

[loud fable]

hey guys whats the main difference between corrupted and cleansed zones

i read that cleansed drops fracturing orbs but what does corrupted do?

[hot peak]

drops more uniqes

[loud fable]

ty

[hot peak]

They have some different modifiers to if i dont remember incorrectly, however most people usually just cleanses then runs those maps.

[novel crow]

gotta sift through gear if you do them as corrupted, whereas cleansed drop currency

there's always the potential for a god tier drop in corrupted, but you have to sift through everything and it virtually never happens, whereas currency is clean loot rewards unless you're doing SSF

[loud fable]

yea defs sounds like cleansed is the go

[novel crow]

I try to juice up nearby towers and make a beeline for the corrupted nexus through the shortest route possible to keep as many cleansed maps intact as possible

[nova kernel]

Note that clearing the nexus will reroll the atlas node mods, which is especially relevant if the corrupted biome has a node that rolled a +1 level mod

[rotund trench]

Whoa, just sold a random jewel that I would normally trash for 1 divine.

[placid fern]

there is a unique jewel that doubles the effectiveness of corrupted magic jewels, they are probably doing something with that

[dapper nest]

someone want to help me with a trade?

[placid fern]

what's up?

[dapper nest]

may i dm you?

[placid fern]

do you have a question? just ask

[dapper nest]

i think someone blocked me and now i can't buy a item i want. first he pumped the price and i was not happy with it and messaged him . and now he has lowered the price but still no response

[placid fern]

welcome to the friction of trading in poe2

i dont think there's anything to be done unfortunately if they aren't interested in doing business

[dapper nest]

yeah. i was hoping if someone could to try bought it for me

[placid fern]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/535499266316304386

they are kinda strict about trading on here

[sour pine]

What are weapon tiers and affixes tiers ? Is that a different thing ? For example I see uniddentified Gemini bow tier 5, is that the max tier ? Does it mean that when I identify the item, I will get tier 5 affixes ? Please explain this, as someone who never played poe1 it's just very unclear

Sometimes I see affixes like a tier 4 prefix next to a tier 8 affix, what is that, and how do you change tiers but keep the affixes ?

[placid fern]

the tiered items you see as i understand them means that they have less of the bad or shitty affixes in the drop pool. it doesn't mean they are guaranteed to have those tier rolls on the affixes

the tier of the item is meaningless outside of being able to identify it as likely to be better than an item of lower or no tier

im not 100% tho as it's not super clear like you said

[floral haven]

will this buff apply if i dont use a shield but take block chance nodes ?

[placid fern]

as long as you are getting base block chance from somewhere it will work, if you take block chance nodes on the tree but have no base (shield, quarterstaff w/ implicit or focus w/ unique amulet) it won't work

[floral haven]

https://mobalytics.gg/poe-2/builds/ronarray-speed-leveling-build?weaponSet=set1&widgets-state=eyJmN2Q4MjEwMi03ZTc3LTRhNDQtYWQyNC0zM2I2N2U4YWU3YmYiOnsiZmlsdGVycyI6eyJhY3RpdmVWYXJpYW50SWQiOiI2MzNiNzBlMi04OGMxLTQ3NjktODYxNS01ZGRhZDhkZWZiZDgifSwidHlwZW5hbWUiOiJOZ2ZEb2N1bWVudENtV2lkZ2V0Q29udGVudFZhcmlhbnRzVjEifX0
I thought i could follow this method and got lay siege instilled

do you think it would be fine to use a shield instead of an omen sceptre ?

im leveling on warrior ofc

[placid fern]

yes

[trail yoke]

If I run a waystone with delerious on it, the delirum mirror wont show at start of the map? Is it used on non delierum mirror maps?

[placid fern]

thats correct there wont be a mirror. use them on whatever nodes you want. if you have a citadel with delirium mirror its probably better to sacrifice the mirror and juice the waystone

[trail yoke]

but I feel like with mirror it gives me way more delirium so I dont get it

[placid fern]

when you say delirium you mean the different emotions?

[trail yoke]

for gathering splinters

[placid fern]

it's up to you how to utilize the mechanics, if you're targeting splinters and getting more from mirrors that's what you should do. i was just giving a use case for when you might want to sacrifice a mirror to instill a waystone. most of the time if the node has a mirror you probably would not also instill the waystone

[trail yoke]

Thnx! It's just a way to give us a way to farm more splinters from none mirror maps

[novel crow]

it also depends on how much delirium you put on there, you can get over 100% delirium at a serious cost or with a deli infused drop and there'll be a shitton more splinters there than a map with a mirror

[raven ingot]

Does anyone know how to hide armour bases in filterblade? I'm trying to hide all armour bases (exp. gloves, body armour, boots) from my filter but I can't seem to make it work

[somber stump]

any ETA for the 0.2.1 patch?

[idle hazel]

This week.

[sour pine]

Oh ok, so item tiers is meaningless basically. What about the base damage of the item, is that linked to tiers ? Or to "item level" ? What's item level then ? Higher item level = higher tier affixes and higher base damage ? Is there somewhere where everything is explained clearly ?

It's not that their game is too complex, it's just that nothing is explained, you just have to figure it out on the fly ?

[idle hazel]

Base damage is dependent on the base type only, it doesn't scale with item level. The only thing item level affects is the tier of affixes that can roll. Unidentified item tiers determine the minimum tier of affixes on that item, so the higher it is, the better the item will be on average (assuming it rolls good affixes, of course).

[sour pine]

What's the highest item tier ? If I find a unidentified bow tier 8, does that mean it can only roll tier 8 + affixes on it ? Even when I slam exalts on it ?

Doesn't guarantee the type of affixes, but guarantees affixes tier ?

Or if you just have a link to a site that explains everything clearly, or even a YouTube video, I will stop asking dumb questions like this

[idle hazel]

There's the wiki, let me grab the link for you.

[sour pine]

Ok, the wiki explains all of this ?

[idle hazel]

Specific numbers are outdated, but it outlines how this system works: https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Rarity#Item_rarity_tier_system

[sour pine]

Ok thanks

It indeed says outdated info. There are still 10 tiers ?

[idle hazel]

In terms of internal tiers, yes. In terms of the numbers you see, it's still 2-5

The numbers that are outdated is when these start dropping. Tiered Unidentified items have started dropping at lower levels with a 0.2.* patch.

[flat linden]

the hell is this i found leveling, i seems to not being able to kill it, it respawns
there is 2+ rares around it...

[long sonnet]

it's the minion summoned by those rares

[nova kernel]

Hare-touched will respawn potentially a bunch of times

[flat linden]

yea actual rare was incredibly dangerous so i couldnt take screen, i had to kill it like 5 times or maybe more, it dropped mostly rare body armors
in total like 30 rares so i teleported back and forth for few mins 😄

[naive parrot]

How do I retry chaos trial after dying, can't open a new one and cant enter the last one ...

Even logout and login let the door open

[storm forge]

if its the quest coin go to alter click close then re open if its not the quest item farmanother entry coin

[naive parrot]

Its not the quest one, but I cant use another one to open xD

[storm forge]

report it as a bug

[naive parrot]

first when I try to enter the last area when I died, and second when I want to open a new one ^^

[placid fern]

If you’re on pc control click when choosing destinations on the world map to open a new instance

Do that with temple of chaos and it will clear the bugged instance

[flint spade]

guys i´m playing a blood mage build and something reserves 25 of my spirit
i have no auras active and absolutly no idea what it could be
did someone have a similar problem before or know what it could be?

[plain lion]

Support gem or ascendacy passive maybe?

[queen cloak]

Could anyone please tell me how a Essence Drain build like this deals with bleed damage?

[proven spoke]

say there's only 1 tower in range of a citadel, it's not worth slapping tablets in it right? especially not the rerun tablet?

[naive parrot]

what am I supposed to do ? I died after him I dont know how ><

cant revive

broo fuck that shit ...

I've to do it all again cause of freaking bug U_u

[scenic torrent]

Is it better to leave the corruption nexus or cleanse it?

[rotund trench]

I guess cleansing adds modifiers to maps so that seems more valuable than corruption?

[idle hazel]

Both Corrupted and Cleansed Maps have a random modifier applied, so the question is more of which one is better.

Cleansed Maps can also drop Fracturing Orbs, they may still be valuable.

[rotund trench]

But don't cleansed maps have a chance to get an extra modifier?

Like expedition etc?

[idle hazel]

Not that I know of, but perhaps I just missed it every time it happened.

[rotund trench]

This is what the popup says:

[idle hazel]

I believe it's referring to these

[rotund trench]

So you are saying the cleansed and corrupted have the same chance of getting one from that list?

[idle hazel]

They have different lists

But both usually have a modifier from their respective list, yes.

[scenic torrent]

Interesting

So it depends on the modifier im looking for?

[idle hazel]

Or if you're looking for Fracturing Orbs, but yes.

[rotund trench]

Does 'players have x% less recovery rate of life and ES' apply to leech?

Leech is a kind of recovery, but isn't it instant?

[amber helm]

yes

[amber helm]

no

leech recovers over 1 second

by default

[rotund trench]

I see, so if say you have a leech of 100 HP and 50% less recovery rate does that mean 50HP over 1 sec or 100HP over 1.5-ish seconds?

[amber helm]

i think it means you recover 50 life for 2 seconds

(100 over 2 seconds)

[rotund trench]

From map, if you return to hideout and pause game, does the map also pause and not reset after 15 minutes?

[rotund trench]

In-game a tower says 'completing this tower with higher tier waystones will increase the number of maps affected by tablets'. I don't see anything like that in the wiki, but the wiki version history says 'Using higher tier waystones in towers also now increases the number of mechanics applied by Tablets.' Which is right and how does tier affect towers?

[lavish seal]

is there any way as a smith of kitava warrior to actually clear ultimatum or sanctum for 4th ascendancy? i m already several divs invested in the build and can clear t15 maps with little effort but 4th ascendancy seems just obtusely designed for a "tanky" melee dude. or is it skill issue?

[karmic zinc]

4th Sekhemas trial boss will not get harder the longer you take. If my damage was low I'd go for this since it's all about survival. Or if you're already several divines into the build use 1 divine and pay for someone to clear it for you.

edit: to clarify I don't believe chaos final boss gets harder either, but there's just more random things that can happen in ultimatum imo

[lavish seal]

is the price for a carry only 1 div? i d really love to just clear it myself tbh tho. damage is fine until after the third boss in sanctum, then stuff becomes spongy af

[karmic zinc]

I'm not entirely sure. If you have that much invested you should be fine. There could be an error in your skill or support gems

yes 1 div for carry

People in trade are constantly spamming it

[lavish seal]

and regardless of me having literally only honor resistance relics i feel like i'm still struggling to get close to the end with a decend reserve of honor. feels like rng is skrewing me there. same-ish for ultimatum. almost any curse can snowball into a bad situation. literally just died to the cursed blood laser thingie literally preventing me from healing. too bad im a warrior and have to go melee anyway so no way to not get hit

[karmic zinc]

ultimatum is more likely to get a bad combo but overall it's quicker than sanctum. If you're struggling to get to the end with enough honor it is (not being rude here) a skill issue as you said. You might consider watching a well reviewed/viewed video on how to choose rooms and what to avoid and pick to make your way to the end safely. You really shouldn't be getting hit on bosses much at all even as melee. You just have to be more patient than ranged

You could respec into totems as well. I don't know the build but my friend did smith with totems and cleared their ascendency solo self found

Best of luck. I hope that helps

[lavish seal]

i see. no offense taken in the skill issue thingie. i literally said it myself, if it's a skill issue i just need to get better at it. this is clearly not the kind of game i usually play so, i only got stuff to learn. thanks for the heads up btw. i also took the liberty to post in the smith of kitava thread here, maybe they ll help with eventual troubleshooting of build related problems.

[karmic zinc]

I'd wager you're being too reckless or have a bad gem setup

[lavish seal]

i do realized that i just try to avoid bad curses in sanctum, try to maximize sacred water but often i get stuck in terrible gauntlet trials or chalice trials, those are the two that probably drain my honour the most.

[karmic zinc]

also be aware your honour resist does cap out at 75%. Anymore is wasted

[lavish seal]

damn fr?

[karmic zinc]

you'll want move speed and +defenses

yep

[lavish seal]

didnt know that

i might actually have room for useful mods then like more damage to bosses and stuff to make it more manageable

[karmic zinc]

or extra keys, water, merchant stuff. I think move speed and defenses are the most useful if you're still trying to clear it

there you go

[placid fern]

Sacred water is the GOAT

[lavish seal]

weird question at this stage but well: was this thing about honor res being capped at 75% written anywhere in game?

[karmic zinc]

It is a sleeper affix. You can do a lot with it provided you're going through the rooms correctly

I'm not sure if it is stated explicity somewhere. But like all resists it caps at 75

[placid fern]

If it is it’s under a tooltip and not anywhere obvious but I don’t think so

[karmic zinc]

you should be avoiding gauntlets by the way. The ones with the locked doors you need to dodge traps on. Especially in area 3+

[placid fern]

I would avoid chalice rooms too as a smith, some rares can have dumb affixes that are hard to see and dodge

[karmic zinc]

That's fair. If you don't have screen clear that's a good point

but the trap ones will drain your honour the most due to silly things (imo)

[placid fern]

Yeah gauntlets definitely avoid at all costs

[lavish seal]

yeah i noticed alaready gauntlets shoudl be avoided. other than being the opposite of fun, it's just so easy to get clipped by a random trap or bodyblocked by a pack of trash and hit by a stray thingie

[karmic zinc]

you should be going for large fountains. also if you have a room where u can choose to accept a negative for a boon remember you don't have to

but the fountains + merchant will get you really strong. sometimes even breaking the game in your favor

[placid fern]

Yeah so many good things in the merchant shop

[lavish seal]

and yes, as i said as a war i literally have troubles with traps cause slow ass and chalice cause some elites are just obnoxious with their effects

but that has been my strat tbh, go for sacred water, rob the merchant blind and jsut try to profit

[karmic zinc]

You'd likely benefit from being able to see one room further i think

[lavish seal]

regardless it hasnt been fruitful so far

[karmic zinc]

because it sounds like you know what to do. you just need to execute it

chaos could work too. I think you'll run into "well #$&^" moments more as a warrior though due to how annoying the curses are

[lavish seal]

well with the thing you told me about honor res cap i surely know what imma change next time i attempt this thing

the "well shit" moment is literally me at almost any attempt in ultimatum. too bad cause i find it way more enjoyable and less of a slog than "be patronized by an old lady smoking a pack a day: the minigame" sanctum

[karmic zinc]

I haven't played enough warrior to give you specific advice but there are definitely warriors that clear it frequently. There's gotta be a guide somewhere for you

[lavish seal]

it is what it is tho, gonna try to keep at it i guess. if that fails i'll just wait for when it'll inevitably be nerfed cause no way this is getting to release in this state ( i...hope? lmao )

[placid fern]

4th ascendancies aren’t meant to be trivial

[karmic zinc]

Mhmm. I struggled with my first (several) attempt(s) in league 1.
But after you learn it (like most things) it's just easier and easier

you said you don't normally play games like this? I wouldn't consider poe2 to be a hard game but it's certainly not holding your hand.

[lavish seal]

i can see it becoming easier with practice and preparation and knowledge. but i think i'm keeping my right to think it's designed in very lobsided kinda way

[karmic zinc]

did you play season 1?

the bosses in trials had 10x more hp accidentally 🤣

or something ridiculous like that

[lavish seal]

i did play season 1 yes but i gave up soon after i discovered there was no real way around using the trade website

[karmic zinc]

Ahh. Well I will say that is also incorrect but your progression will be much faster with it

[lavish seal]

i prolly got to t6-7 as an infernalist witch, i also felt like i was losing my eyesight

[karmic zinc]

incorrect is the wrong word. It's subjective. I just think it's doable without. More and more the more it gets patched

Hey! At least you're not just giving up and leaving a bad review for the game haha

[lavish seal]

i mean i see no reason to do that

[karmic zinc]

Yes. Because you're reasonable ;)
It's why I've kept talking to ya ^^

[rotund trench]

That may be the best boon.

[lavish seal]

was about to type ah wall of text but realized this is not the place nor the time for that lmao xD

again i feel like the honor res cap tip was massive, hopefully that's gonna work. if not i prolly wont pay for a carry

i'd rather go roll a witch instead and try to tackle it from a completely different perspective

so tldr thanks a lot for the time and the explanations @karmic zinc 🙏

warrior has a voiceline where he goes "science wont save you!" while killing the aztec looking mad doctors

imma do my best impression of him and yell "discord tips will unmake you lot!" next time i tackle sanctum with more or less the same energy

[rotund trench]

I just did my second tower with a tier 10 waystone with 6 affixes, so I can put 3 tablets. What should I be looking to put in there? Any suggestions on general guides or videos?

[karmic zinc]

Keep going in the same direction to find corrupted nexus and citadels for now. If you come across an area with 3 or 4 towers that over lap set a bookmark and come back to it later. I wouldn't worry about "juicing" your maps until you're running at least tier 13

Your goal at the moment is to get atlas tree points

[rotund trench]

Ok, so maybe just put 3 precuror's in this one?

[karmic zinc]

what do you have?

and what are you playing

[rotund trench]

I have 1 or more of each type of tablet. I am galvanic shards/shockburst

[karmic zinc]

Precursor and Delirium imo. If you clear bosses easy do that as well. That's an easy atlas sub tree to get done

breach works as well since you probably melt the screen (I think?)

[rotund trench]

yeah

[karmic zinc]

I would however only do breach and delirium with tier 13+ if you can help it. But you can always put the tablets in now. keep going in that direction. and come back

[rotund trench]

nah, I'll save them, prec, del, and boss sounds good. bosses are ok

what do you mean exactly about atlas subtree?

[karmic zinc]

the outer non connected trees in your atlas skill tree

those are all associated with the various endgame elements. Bosses, breach, delirium, ritual, etc

[rotund trench]

but how do you get points, for example, for the boss one?

[karmic zinc]

can I DM you some videos?

[rotund trench]

sure

[placid fern]

https://i.imgur.com/YnD3gYh.jpeg

so turns out being able to open strongbox twice is busted

everything here has 14% quality

[novel crow]

why is that busted? It was probably an affix on the strongbox

[placid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/come-over-its-free-real-estate-commercial-gif-13719638

all my strongboxes have been like this

the currency ones are even better cause if you get at least 1 chaos is like 75% margin

[fathom vigil]

I dont understand why my skills are harming me, I checked everything, gear, skills, passives, charms, flask...

[placid fern]

what ascendancy are you?

and what uniques if any are you wearing

[fathom vigil]

amazon, kitoko, tangletongue, ingenuity, beacon of azis and lycoside

[placid fern]

tangletongue

pretty sure that it converts some mana cost to life cost

[rotund trench]

why don't they say superior?

[placid fern]

thats a great question

im not sure

https://i.imgur.com/iEPzonv.png

maybe its not max quality?

[rotund trench]

how do you open twice?

[placid fern]

its an atlas node

[fathom vigil]

ohh yeah, I never noticed that before, i think because of cannibalism healing me

[placid fern]

https://i.imgur.com/qQrbq3A.png

strongboxes suprise the heck out of me tbh

rogue exiles have been a huge letdown

doesn't matter how much i try to juice my maps i just never encounter them

[rotund trench]

I've hit a few, just random

at least I think that's what they were

they say something right?

[placid fern]

yeah

quite a bit if they dont die immediately

when i was leveling they were actually fun fights

i died to a warrior leap slamming me from off screen it was epic

very strange

https://i.imgur.com/9lsrLSq.png

must have been a strongbox glitch

[heavy kayak]

sold my old TT for 6 div

[rotund trench]

I just did an essense and nothing dropped. Did I do something wrong?

I think I might have waited too long in hideout. Nothing dropped after that.

[long sonnet]

probably got filtered out by item filter

[rotund trench]

essence wouldn't get filtered. and I killed a rare or two after.

[karmic zinc]

GalaxyM82 — everything here has 14% quality
dxter — why don't they say superior?

Because they are identified already

[rotund trench]

Can't get a tier 13 waystone; been trying all day.

[lunar shard]

Reforge lower ones

[rotund trench]

Got it, but yeah, I need to look into the reforge thing.

[trail yoke]

Can we level up our companion somehow? I invested into damage and all but my gorilla does nothing to enemies 😦

using Tame beast that is

[arctic lake]

türk var mı yardıma ihtiyacım var

[zenith sigil]

english in here please

[cedar umbra]

I followed a wisp and every monster that was possessed dropped a map. I have never seen that before

[novel crow]

the map wisp

[thorn rose]

So I just got to mapping… where should I try to go? Corrupted area? Is that where I’ll get my skill points?

[idle hazel]

For the Atlas Passive Points, yes, you go to the Corrupted regions and complete the Corrupted Nexus in the middle of them. You also get more points from completing Unique maps.

[thorn rose]

What are unique maps? Like waystones?

[idle hazel]

No, some nodes on the atlas have the Unique Map marker, and have a specific layout and encounter. For instance, the Untainted Paradise map drops no loot, but gives significantly more experience. The Vaults of Kamasa have no enemies, but contain a large number of chests that can drop a lot of rewards.

They can be opened with regular Waystones, and can be affected by the modifiers on the waystone, though they cannot have any other mechanics or modifiers added on to the node itself.

[scenic torrent]

does qauntity of waystones dropped by map boses affect citidel bosses fragments?

[idle hazel]

Yes

[scenic torrent]

ty

[torpid wave]

for farming sekhemas, are there anything valueable besides carrying?

time lost jewels and rare relics?

[rustic canyon]

is increased amount leeched capped at 50%? have 52% and it doesn't increase in PoB

[cerulean sleet]

hey guys when im leveling bloodmage w/ rake, do i upgrade my rake skill gem? or just leave it at 3

[fading bloom]

hiii
I just finished both normal and cruel mode - how do i do maps now?

[zenith sigil]

talked with doriyani in the ziggurat refuge ?

[fading bloom]

yes, nothing happened and the quest wont progress - i assumed it doesnt progress from there?

i have refreshed the area and relogged so uhm,,, O_O

[zenith sigil]

so after you did cruel you should end up in a town thats inside the zigguarat

go to waypoint and look for ziggurat refuge

or something like that

[fading bloom]

the encampment?

[zenith sigil]

well your quest says to speak with him in the encampment, but i think you need to do that in the past instead of present

[fading bloom]

I believe my game may be borked

[fading bloom]

this worked 👍
he wasnt there in the past segment of that area the last few times

[zenith sigil]

yeah, timetravel is always tricky, maybe he got lost ..

[hoary walrus]

can uniques drop in the artifacts shop from expedition npcs?

I have too many expedition currency

idk what to do with it

[placid fern]

No

[terse raven]

so i just got hella lucky and got a divine orb from a cleanse boss, is it better to trade it for a decent armor, exchange it for hella exalted orbs and get a mid armor, or just sit on it and try to survive with my shitty armor for as long as possible

[sly kayak]

really depends on what you're running/need, and what level you are. if you're build has a BIS unique you can get for 1 div, it may be worth it. If you just love slamming stuff (other than waystones) then get some exalts

[terse raven]

im a level 69 lightning spear, just got to endgame, cleared my like 5th map

my resists are lookikng good, cold and lightning maxed, fire 59 chaos 43

[sly kayak]

if you don't have a tangletongue yet you might see what 1 div could get you

can you link your build?

[terse raven]

one sec

a PoB links?

or the builkd guide

[sly kayak]

https://poedb.tw/us/pob

if you're using POB, you can just create a code and slap it in there, then share the url

[terse raven]

saying error pob1 version

[sly kayak]

i'm not sure what the error means, maybe need to update POB?

[terse raven]

says latest verison

weird

[sly kayak]

or maybe i provide the right link

https://poe2db.tw/us/pob

lol i linked the POEdb and not POE2db

[terse raven]

ahh

kk one sec

https://poe2db.tw/pob/GxVUFsJQFN

[rotund trench]

So I'm in my first logbook expedition. I can place 26 explosives. My understanding is that the modifiers on each remnant thing stack as they go. If that's true then it will probably become too overwhelming. What are some general tips tricks for doing these?

[sly kayak]

i'd probably try for a tangletongue with the highest crit chance you can afford. POB dmg calc doesn't factor in TTs "Forks Critical Hits" but it essentially lets you double crit. I'm not sure any rare spear can beat out a 19+ crit chance tangletongue, it'd have to mirror tier rare

[terse raven]

is the crit bonus worth the lower damage on the front end

[sly kayak]

yea, the double crit basically roles for crit twice on each hit

[terse raven]

oo

[sly kayak]

your crit strike chance is very low, at the end end game you're gonna want close to 100% crit chance as you can get, and then work up your crit bonus

[terse raven]

so tt for now, next armor cause my suvivability rn is kinda bad, died a few times already, my evasion feels real low

[lunar shard]

I have many tangles. I can just give you a 1 socket or you can buy one from trade for probably a few ex

[sly kayak]

https://poe2db.tw/pob/85HxUBJpWM

i was gonna say the same, I have an old tangle with modest crit chance if you want it

[terse raven]

whats the lowest crit chance on a tt i should be alright going for?

ill take any freebioes if people are offering

[sly kayak]

19+ crit is ideal

[terse raven]

gotcha

[ivory blade]

How much is the max crit ? Max i find on poe 2 trade is 20 with 2 sockets but im sure i saw ones better

[terse raven]

whast the easiest way to counteract the health cost of skills with tt

[sly kayak]

20 is max

[ivory blade]

there isnt corrupted ones with more than 20 ??

[terse raven]

the most expensive one on trade is +24.38%

for 365 divines

[lunar shard]

Not with 2 sockets

[terse raven]

ahh

[ivory blade]

Oh ok, same for damage right, 1 socket goes to 44 and 2 sockets goes to 36 ?

[sly kayak]

oh dang, over 20%? is the extra crit from vaaling?

[lunar shard]

Ya

Only way to push stats over there cap

[ivory blade]

Better to have 2 sockets tho ?

[lunar shard]

For tangle, probably unless you hit high crit

[sly kayak]

depends on how much crit chance you're needing

[ivory blade]

im at 95% effective on main hand RN

[lunar shard]

Two acc runes are nice

[ivory blade]

with a 18.9 crit tangle with 2 sockets

[sly kayak]

i got my TT for two divines, i think it's plenty effective for the price, i'm at 98+ crit chance, could top it off if I needed to but prefer crit bonuses now

[terse raven]

offer still on the table?

[sly kayak]

for sure, I PMed you

you're using Lazys guide on Mobalytics?

i'd suggest dropping Dance with Death on the tree and getting a lycosidae for the accuracy bonuses, it should up your crit chance a lot

eventually i traded for a scepter with lots of spirit

[terse raven]

i was using lazys

but once i got past campaign i swapped to Fubgun

[sly kayak]

i started out with that too, evetually I just used poe2 ninja to see what other builds were using and what their trees looked like

but the lowest level on ninja is 84 atm

[terse raven]

PoB is saying with the tt my crit chance is 59.42%

crit multiplier of 503%

i can get some runes to see if i can get significantly higher

[sly kayak]

yea, a high base crit chance on weapon is what all other multipliers are based on, it's why you see a lot of Seaglass/Jagged spears being used if they're not running TT

high crit chance and setting up your skills to generate power charges with combat frenzy makes a big diff too

[terse raven]

im trying to see on PoB is i replaced the runes if my crit chance would go significantly higher, but im struggling lol

[sly kayak]

i'm no expert though, I had to get schooled on these things in the Church of Amazon not long ago

you may just have to create a new tangletongue in POB to do it, i'm not sure it lets you edit imported items

[terse raven]

ah i see

[sly kayak]

also, 1 div could probably buy you your 4th ascendancy when you get there

[terse raven]

tru

if i did the vision runes, my crit chance would go from the 59.42% to 62.1%

not too much of a difference

and the damage would go down from about 2000 average to like 1500

so i think im just gonna stick with the runes you had for njow

[sly kayak]

by all means, i ran that TT like that for a long while, it only cost me a few exalts at the time

[terse raven]

and i greatly appreciate the gift

[sly kayak]

i haven't even tested swapping out runs on my current TT, think imma do that

I think the accuracy might've given bigger results with a Lycosidae, can't remember when I swapped that out

[terse raven]

with a lycosidae my crit chance would go to 71% with the 2 vision runes

[sly kayak]

if you've got the spare runs, might test it out

[terse raven]

i have none, or a lucosidae, might just run with what i have untiul it stops working as easily

[sly kayak]

if I swap out my accuracy runes for phys right now I'll lose DPS and crit chance

i think it's an ascendancy thing

yea, this is why it's working for me

i'm basically getting an extra 50 phys dmg and bumping my crit chance with it, but I think this was probably my last ascendancy point

also worth noting that at some point down the line you'll start becoming a glass canon and bosses will one shot you if their AE grazes you. gearing towards energy shield and passives that improv ES was the only way I could handle hits

spectral ward is a must have when you start working up your ES

[terse raven]

gotcha

[warm gorge]

is global chat divided in standard and league or are both in one?

[terse raven]

the build guide suggests just a evasion armor, would it be worth it to go with a ev/es when i upgrade soon

[novel crow]

eva/es is a great combo

the best way to do it is to put eva on some items and es on others rather than find hybrid gear as there are passive nodes that amplify that combination

[terse raven]

interesting

[novel crow]

I use eva on body armour and es on everything else, and use passive nodes that amplify the combo

[terse raven]

thats pretty cool

[novel crow]

examples

[terse raven]

how high of an evasion rating would you say is minimum to considered not bad

[novel crow]

There's also this which is very specific for body armour

[novel crow]

impossible to say without knowing what level and the rest of the build, but pure evasion is very hard to pull off as it's a binary phenomenon of no damage or one shot near death

[terse raven]

sitting at 3106 ev rn, with like 100 es, havent really done much to boost es yet

[novel crow]

I have a mostly completed eva/es hybrid build and my eva is 14.3k

my es is 3k

[terse raven]

wowza

[edgy prawn]

Wow

[novel crow]

kek it's a finalised character, you shouldn't be that surprised

note that evasion is taking into account wind dancer, the base evasion is 9.6k

here: https://poe2.ninja/pob/8d35

[terse raven]

whats the benefit of the Rhoa, it has the same base speed as you, and if i get knocked off i basically isnta die, what am i missing

[heavy kayak]

does anyone here use Exile-UI

[placid fern]

No movement penalty when using abilities

[terse raven]

i didnt know that was a thing lol

omg i just got another divine orb

wowza batman

[forest tree]

what level trial do you need to do for the 3rd ascendancy unlock?

[placid fern]

i think 3 trial djinns start dropping at monster level 60 maybe 65

[forest tree]

i have a lvl 71 ultimatum and it doesnt say it will give me skill points...

[placid fern]

ultimatums are for trial of chaos

[forest tree]

right... what level gives the 3rd point

[placid fern]

https://i.imgur.com/13rXTXE.png

this is the only one i have but the significant part is number of trials

if i recall correctly if you do trial of chaos for ascendancy #2 you can't do it for #3 and have to do sekhema OR defeat the trialmaster and get 3rd and 4th in one go

for djinns: https://i.imgur.com/xWQ7q8e.png

[rotund trench]

75 for chaos, 60 for sek

[placid fern]

ultimatum: https://i.imgur.com/JmrIx35.png

[rotund trench]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Ascendancy_class

[placid fern]

ahhhh that's right it's the 10 trial one that gives you 3rd ascendancy

[rotund trench]

So I just got two tier 15 waystones from a boss. I would like to increase the number of 15s initially so I have a cushion of surplus. Any recomendations on the best way to do that?

[placid fern]

like these are your first t15s?

buying the 14s from doryani every time you level is another 3 after reforging

[rotund trench]

Yes, first. I haven't done one yet.

so 3 14s will make a 15?

[placid fern]

yup

[rotund trench]

ok cool. he won't update till I level up but that's fine

[placid fern]

ive been juicing towers with https://i.imgur.com/zX5E6Hx.png

i have another 16% from my atlas tree

[rotund trench]

nice. so even later you still need to do work to get waystones?

[placid fern]

yeah the base drop rate drops as you increase in waystone tier

[rotund trench]

I did a logbook expidition and it dropped a crap ton of waystones at current level.

[placid fern]

im sitting on 29 T15s right now

i just did the atlas change like two days ago so think i hit a sweet spot

[terse raven]

is it a bad idea to go all in on strongboxes, im a gambler at heart

[placid fern]

no i did

strongboxes are awesome

[terse raven]

i want my first ventors box, im excited for when it happens

i have found im using more regal orbs on regular boxes than im getting regals lol

[placid fern]

i can slam exalts into them most of the time and come out on top

especially the currency boxes

1 chaos drop and it's like 75% margin

gear boxes have been less successful but still fun, plus i got like 100 armourer scraps out of one box yesterday cause i hit the double open

i wonder if this node is useless now that im at t15+ https://i.imgur.com/VolSnGv.png

[rotund trench]

can tier 16 drop?

[placid fern]

no

only through corruption can you get t16s

you can push past monster level 79 a few other ways tho

[rotund trench]

Aren't most areas irradiated from tower?

[placid fern]

yeah

[rotund trench]

do you usually corrupt your 15s?

[placid fern]

most of the time

cause i also run https://i.imgur.com/fvENJLV.png most of the time

i take it off if i really like the waystone tho

like on this one

https://i.imgur.com/8PdD6ap.png

the corruption removed all the bad affixes and left me all the good shit

[rotund trench]

what does corrupting it twice do?

[placid fern]

allows for a 2nd chance at it becoming a t16

[rotund trench]

what is the base chance?

[rotund trench]

so in principle with 2 corruptions you could get a 16 with 10 modifiers?

[placid fern]

i think so. if you put a corrupted t16 in it can up again too

[rotund trench]

you mean to 17?

[placid fern]

yeah

it can also go back down tho

i get boned a lot where i put a t15 in and end up with t14

[rotund trench]

is the loot significantly better from 14>15>16?

[placid fern]

in my experience yes

the number of tiered items dropping alone in t16 seemed significantly higher

like almost every chest

https://i.imgur.com/S6ar3Di.png

[sly kayak]

It can also wipe all your prefixes and leave only suffixes.

[placid fern]

yeah

[sly kayak]

Oh I see the vice verse in the notes

Myb

[placid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/bonne-nuit-bisous-gif-23798629

all good

[sly kayak]

Does organized forces even work? The tool tip doesn't show that it does

[placid fern]

not sure im still missing some boss points

[sly kayak]

I threw it on the other day, went hunting for no irradiated boss maps, and it still showed level 79. I got rid of it, but it may work and it's just not updating the text right

[placid fern]

yeah might be a text thing.

https://i.imgur.com/mZydDHi.jpeg

for me?

[novel crow]

hard agree and mine looks very similar

How does ecological shift feel to you? I don't have that specced in

[placid fern]

i dont really notice the downside, i definitely run into a bucketload of strongboxes on each map

at least 3-4 average sometimes more

[novel crow]

hrm I usually get 3-4 without it anyway

[sly kayak]

are logbooks just severely undercooked? if Oloroth isn't in the map they're pretty much less rewarding than finding an expidition in maps

[novel crow]

40% more sounds good but it can be anything, and strongboxes only 1 of 5, so it's a 20% chance of 40% more strongboxes, so only 8% more strongboxes over all the maps

8% is only enough to trigger "just over threshold for one more strongox" at best

well though it's 40% so that's not fair

but anyway you get my drift, just for strongboxes I can't see it being very strong

[rotund trench]

I'm trying to calculate where my cross bow physical dmg comes from. Base is 27-109. Stats say 180-584. If I estimate the high end I get ( 109 + 47 + 8 ) * 1.67 * 1.45 * 1.2 = 476.5512. The +47 is from 'adds 21-47 phys' on xbow. The +8 is from 1-4 and 3-4 on ring. The 1.67 is from '167% increased phys' on xbow. The 1.45 is from physical runes. The 1.2 is from quality. So what might I be missing or mis-calculating to get 476 instead of 584?

[amber helm]

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[amber helm]

oh i see your issue

the inc from runes adds to the inc from the prefix

so it's not x1.67 x.1.45 it's x 3.12 (1+1.67+0.45)

and the ring part will not factor into your calculation

[amber helm]

and you did 1.67 for 167% increased when it should be 2.67

remember that 100% increased means double means 2x

[rotund trench]

ah, right

doh

thanks!

[amber helm]

np wep damage calc is my bread and butter

along with convert calcs

[rotund trench]

convert?

[amber helm]

conversion

it gets confusing when you throw in gain as, over 100% convert, different damage types, etc.

[rotund trench]

ah, you mean like physical converted to lightening?

[amber helm]

yeah

[nova kernel]

What does over 100% convert do? What would happen if I was going to do 100 physical damage but I had 150% physical conversion to fire and also gain 50% as fire? What about gain as physical?

[junior hornet]

can't convert over 100

[placid fern]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

https://i.imgur.com/xeXDB35.png

[junior hornet]

it just shows like that, the actual damage is still 100

[placid fern]

the damage sheet doesn't reflect that

[junior hornet]

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Conversion#:~:text=60 cold damage.-,Overconversion,-If conversion in

[placid fern]

lolwhat

i dont understand why all this half-baked bs made it into the game

[rotund trench]

unexpectedly got 2 boss tree skill points 🙂

[placid fern]

why is this stat even corruptible

[rotund trench]

if corruption hits a mod does it always increase?

[placid fern]

no

[rotund trench]

maybe that's why

[placid fern]

no i mean if it has no impact on the actual damage it should not be using a numerical modifier at all

it should just say fire damage converted to cold damage and be an unscaleable stat

it's needlessly confusing and nothing on the wiki is actually stated anywhere

in-game that is

[rotund trench]

but it could potentially drop it to say 90%, right?

[placid fern]

yeah

[rotund trench]

But to the general point, I think if you could convert more than 100%, in general, there would be ways to get a broken amount of dmg.

[placid fern]

i thought if you converted over 100% it would add to the damage so 100 fire damage would become 109 cold

yeah

https://tenor.com/view/not-gif-4797021

[rotund trench]

I realized that was the same as above.

So if you do an irradiated boss map does that mean the boss can drop a waystone +2 from the waystone used on the map? For example, 13 > 15?

[placid fern]

no i think its still dependent on the tier that went into it

not 100% tho

once i fail this breachstone i can test it

[rotund trench]

according to wiki 'Waystones dropped by final map bosses are always one tier higher than the map you are in.'

[rotund trench]

Do shrines expire after awhile if you don't use them?

[placid fern]

not that im aware of

[rotund trench]

I thought I left one near a boss area, but when I came back it was already used. I may have forgot though.

[sly kayak]

Nah, I’ve saved shrines for bosses before

[rotund trench]

I went into an irradiated boss map with tier 14 waystone. I have +1 level boss atlas and the boss was level 81. So 78 + 1(irradiated) + 1(boss) + 1(boss atlas). So I think you could farm lvl 15 waystones with lvl 13 or lower waystones.

[placid fern]

if its a boss map it would always be a 15 if you started with 14

i dont think the monster level has an impact

ill test now tho

[rotund trench]

I think the boss level determines the waystone level.

So bosses are normally +1 level, so they drop a +1 waystone.

[placid fern]

i threw a t12 into irradiated boss augury, we'll see if 14 drops

but the in-game tip: https://i.imgur.com/JOIvdsY.png

makes me think it will be a 13

[rotund trench]

higher doesn't necessarily mean one higher.

[placid fern]

i could be wrong

[rotund trench]

look at the level of gear the boss drops

I think the boss just gets +1 level of the map and that is why it drops a higher level waystone.

[placid fern]

he dropped t13s

[rotund trench]

hmmm. what level gear did he drop?

[placid fern]

item level 79

[rotund trench]

ok then

[lost cobalt]

Anyone want some help? Campaign... Maps, currency- anything.

Make sure to ping me so I get the notification

[vernal magnet]

Hello, is this good? And if yes, can yoy help me aproximate it's price. For the love of god i cannot figure it out.

[rotund trench]

The fire + increased fire seems good. I would just try high and lower if it doesn't sell.

[vernal magnet]

And how high should i go?

[rotund trench]

check the trade site

[vernal magnet]

Cannot find anything like that

[rotund trench]

try 1 div 🤷‍♂️

[vernal magnet]

Will do some more research.

[placid fern]

not having + to spell level hurts it a lot

staves don't really have a strong meta right now either

[vernal magnet]

Good to know that. Thank you for the help.

[placid fern]

looking at how long stuff has been listed for is a good indication of volume of movement

[vernal magnet]

Yeah, i have seen some. That s quite some long time

[rotund trench]

if you go back to sell stuff, it removes map markers. that's dumb

[cedar umbra]

What mods are the most desired ones on rubys?

[rotund trench]

completely build dependent

But if you mean for selling, I think you just got to check what people are listing for and try to estimate.

[trail yoke]

whats the difference between: main hand critical hit chance & Main hand effective chance for critical hit ?

[rotund trench]

Not sure, but maybe the second is taking into account chance of evasion?

[mental relic]

Is there a good guide on how to use filter blade? I just started playing around with it and want to customize some things for my smith of Kitava in maps, specifically how to make sure I see white chests and such

[sour pine]

How much dos do you need at minimum to clear t16 easily ?

How much dps

[amber helm]

???

what's half baked about it

it just works

[torn gorge]

People just think if they do not understand it its bad. Elemental conversion works just as it is expected to do. It normalizes to 100% if its over, thats all there is to it.

[placid fern]

The game doesn’t state this anywhere

Hence half-baked

[torn gorge]

Why should it need to state that a conversion is not equal to an increase? That is blatantly obvious.

[modern adder]

"...per enemy hit with attacks" means only once per enemy (assuming you hit them with an attack), not for every hit on every enemy, correct? So each enemy can proc that effect once at most, and never multiple times, right?

[tiny spoke]

it does matter if u have 100% conversion to cold and 200% conversion to fire ud end up with 33% cold and 66% fire dmg

[junior hornet]

it can still proc multiple times on one enemy if the skill does multiple hits I believe

[modern adder]

That's what I had originally thought, but it's only once "per enemy," not once "per hit," isn't it?

[junior hornet]

urgh wording in poe, but I had practical experience, that mod and lightning rods, it just goes brrrrr

means it can gain on multi hit

[modern adder]

Yeah, the language is unclear but could be clearer for either interpretation. I understand why "enemy" might be used as an adjective modifying "hit," because it isn't meant to apply to, say, hits on destructible vases or something. But it's unclear whether "enemy" might actually be a noun. Is it "per enemy" that is hit with an attack, or "per (enemy) hit with attacks"? An alternative for the first interpretation might be: "...per enemy that is hit with an attack," and an alternative for the second might be: "...per hit on an enemy with an attack."

But we're saying how it actually functions is the second interpretation, right? It activates "per hit on an enemy with an attack," once for each hit, rather than once for each enemy, I suppose.

[junior hornet]

yeah

[modern adder]

Well, that makes me grumpy.

[junior hornet]

huh why

[modern adder]

lol, just the ambiguity. It's a more beneficial effect, of course, so that part's good. I just wish it was represented more clearly.

[sour pine]

On poe2ninja, where do you see jewel placement on the passive tree ? It just says which jewels that build is using, not where they are placed

[junior hornet]

open in pob i guess

[loud fable]

does any1 know how much longer it takes from lvl97->98 rerlative to 96-97?

[rustic canyon]

are there any special conditions to obtain essence of horror besides chance when corrupting any essence monster?

I been trying to get it for like one day and still nothing

[copper raft]

No, there isn't. It's just very unlikely with current chances. Also you need to corrupt Greater essence into horror, not any.

[rustic canyon]

thanks, was thinking so that it should be greater

does CoC spell(arc) consume mana?

[copper raft]

Yes, you still need to be able to pay any cost of triggered spell.

[proud gorge]

When are you considered "affected by a Harold" from the perspective of the passive that increases your damage?

[amber helm]

when you have a herald skill active

i.e. reserving spirit

[proud gorge]

That's what I thought, but the tooltip wasn't showing any more damage. So I guess that's just part of the fact that the tooltip accuracy is terrable.

[modern adder]

What does "storm point" mean, anyway? It's something my Ranger keeps shouting.

[idle hazel]

It's just something the character calls out when you use Lightning Rod, most skills associated with the class have a line or two associated with them that the character can call out when they're used.

[modern adder]

Yeah. I'm especially fond of the Monk's comments about "the Dreamer."

[oblique holly]

Does anyone know what the random number in Heroic Tragedy Timeless Jewel does?

[idle hazel]

It's a seed that determines the way it affects the notables in its radius. Basically, if you had two Heroic Tragedies with the exact same seed, they would have the same effect on the surrounding notables.

It isn't inherently better or worse to have the number higher or lower, they're all just different.

[oblique holly]

If I am shooting for a specific notable how can I figure out what seed I need?

[idle hazel]

I don't believe there's a working calculator for PoE2 (I've even heard some say that it's different per character) so best you can do is just get one and test it out, and if it doesn't have what you need then you either Divine it or get another one.

[modern adder]

Someone remind me. At what point to deaths begin removing XP?

[oblique holly]

Hypothetically if a build guide is using seed 6336, and the trade site has seed 6332 ... is that a big enough gap to change what is available?

[idle hazel]

Every seed gives a different result, so yes.

[oblique holly]

Mainly angling for Black Scythe Training to turn STR from hp to increased energy shield

[dull plank]

After normal act 3 iirc

It increases after cruel a3

[copper raft]

It can be completely different. So the more notables you need - the harder to find the desired diamond.

The only thing that stays is keystone. Those are defined by the name of the clan.

[idle hazel]

That one is a Keystone, if I'm not mistaken, so that one is reliable.

[serene magnet]

Do you lose xp for dying in trials of chaos or sekhemas?

[rotund trench]

Yeah, but not if you are ejected from honour loss.

Does @last work for whispering? Can't get it working.

[rotund trench]

I'm using the default semi-strict filter. It is filtering this which seems worth showing. Why?

It also has a socket, which seem to usually show up.

[frail fox]

How much life leech do i need to make Essentia do something? I have 8% right now and 4k ES and honestly it doesnt even seens that I'm using Essentia?

[mental flax]

https://prnt.sc/b7KyATRmmwv8
It won't let me place a Recombinator in my hideout, even though it looks like I should. Not even switching to keyboard lets me use it.

[long sonnet]

you gotta talk to the expedition npc before it lets you until then they're hidden

[mental flax]

Thank you. It really should tell me that when I go to set it in the hideout so I know what's going on.

[placid fern]

Are you scaling physical damage

[frail fox]

yes

[placid fern]

What leech support do you have in your passive tree

I don’t think a single mod is really sustainable

[frail fox]

i took this one and kinda helped

but now im weaker

cant kill bosses

my mana is drained out before i can finish them

map bosses, not pinacles

[rotund trench]

What leech % do you have?

oh 8%. that should be enough

[solid abyss]

I'm a 76 Smith, new to maps and on Tier 5 maps - what tablets should I put into the towers. I've been doing the cartographer but what other mechanic is worth doing early

[rotund trench]

I don't know what's "worth", but adding bosses give you more boss maps to increase waystone levels.

[solid abyss]

for sure

[rotund trench]

I kind of like expeditions too. and the normal precursor is probably good

[solid abyss]

I guess I mean progression wise, so increasing my waystones with bosses sounds like a solid way. I guess I was also asking if there is one of the other atlas mechanic trees that are easier to get points in

[rotund trench]

I'm that that far yet, but I would just keep increasing waystones until you run into issues where you need to fix something.

As far as encounters, I would just focus on what you like doing and you will naturally accumulate points for that encounter.

[placid fern]

^

my rule of thumb is one irradiated tablet, one boss tablet and one content tablet

[frail fox]

How do i improve my LS dps?

Im stucked at 23k for a while

[mellow flint]

post maxroll or pob

[placid fern]

we'd need to see your gear and passive tree to really help

[frail fox]

i can do that

one sec

my build is kinda yolo, i was focusing on surviving

https://poe2.ninja/pob/90da

dunno why its 50k, prob counting crits

[mellow flint]

you have uber low flat rings

and no flat dmg gloves

they add a lot of dps

[frail fox]

The gloves are helping a lot with suvival, guess my focus are the rings then

[placid fern]

essentia was nice for a while but i found it underwhelming especially since chaos damage and bleeds will just bypass it anyway

[mellow flint]

the ppl you see with 200k LS tooltip are usually tri flat (light + phys + cold on one ring/fire on the other) + tri flat crit bonus gloves or astra + howa with jack of all trades

[amber helm]

they're CI

[placid fern]

ohhh yeah nevermind

[frail fox]

yeah, i cant play without CI anymore

it just feels too good to just tank the plants

[mellow flint]

just put cannibalism on

[placid fern]

just don't get hit 5head

[mellow flint]

2% life per kill you'll never die unless you get stun locked or overkilled lol

[frail fox]

does the cannibalism works with the asc passive?

it does right

[placid fern]

yeah

its just a 2% life per kill

[frail fox]

well, so i'd get rid of that then

and use the weak spot one

aight. I'll see what i can buy atm

havent seen a divine for a while

also, do yall think that "Trade for these items" in PoB is any good?

[placid fern]

ive never used it tbh

what's it suggesting?

[frail fox]

lemme try

this is the highest sum

oh fuck

name dropped the guy

[placid fern]

with lycosidae i question the accuracy roll

[frail fox]

yo also, i just noticed

im using CI

how would life per kill translate into ES?

from cannibalism

[solid abyss]

I like that

[frail fox]

is there a node for that?

[placid fern]

got me stumped actually

[amber helm]

no

[amber helm]

which one

[frail fox]

I meant the life leech one

[amber helm]

it doesnt

[amber helm]

... which is not leech

[frail fox]

aight

[placid fern]

i dont really get the cannibalism suggestion either

[rotund trench]

Is there any reason not to do a unique map (for points) with a low level waystone to make sure you don't waste it?

[placid fern]

your drops will be doo doo

i think you'd be better off getting carried and running a higher level tier

[rotund trench]

What do you mean by drops? Do you mean atlas point drops?

[novel crow]

you need at least t11 for the points but the loot dropped will suck

[placid fern]

i meant loot

good to know about t11 i didnt know that

[rotund trench]

Why would it matter about the loot? Do unique maps drop good loot?

[placid fern]

i guess it's up to you to decide if it matters

[rotund trench]

I mean, do unique maps drop special loot or something?

[placid fern]

the loot is dependent on the monster level in unique maps since you can't juice them

its not special loot its just going to be better the higher tier waystone you put in them

[rotund trench]

But that's true for any map. I guess I don't get why I should be concerned about the loot, if I'm mainly just getting atlas points. Do unique maps drop unique gear or something?

[placid fern]

fractured lake does have the special rings and amulets

[rotund trench]

Yeah, this is fractured lake.

[placid fern]

at the end of it you get a special ring or amulet that has special mods

[rotund trench]

I see. maybe I'll do a 14.

[placid fern]

i dont think there's anything wrong with throwing an easy waystone in to get the points

[warped niche]

should I be clearing corrupted nexus before towers? or towers before nexus?

[placid fern]

are you clearing nexus first and then cleansed nodes?

[warped niche]

no, I'm just focusing on finding corrupted nexus and ignoring cleansed nodes (I'm currently at T9)
I also clear towers that I find on my way, but I found a tower that is one or two maps between the nexus

[placid fern]

id do the tower before the nexus in that case to juice it.

unless you plan on returning to the cleansed nodes

they can have some wild rolls but i think they can overwrite node affixes

[warped niche]

I want to get the most atlas skills I can until I hit a wall, then I'll go back and farm some maps

[warped niche]

you mean nexus rolls?

[placid fern]

no the cleansed nodes can have wild stuff

https://i.imgur.com/qNZzqca.png

this is pretty tame tbh but 100% rarity to start out with is pretty cool. ive seen as high as 370%

sometimes the quantity of items will get reduced like crazy though, or in this case the experience takes a huge hit

[heavy kayak]

I can confirm they override the corruption affixes. I lost 2 +1 to level mods at one point 😭

[rotund trench]

+25% resistance charms don't go over your max resistance do they? For example, if you already have 75% fire the fire charm does nothing right?

[amber helm]

correct

(unless you're cursed with flammability, or have fire exposure, etc.)

so it's nice for overcap to be protected against those

but generally it's useless

[rotund trench]

If a gear has a local '% increase in evasion' etc that applies to the evasion of that gear. Then does the total evasion of that gear go into the global and then global modifiers applied? Like [ (e1 * local%) + (e2 * local%) + (...) ] * global%?

[zenith sigil]

yes

[torpid wave]

does rarity affect pinnacle boss drops?

[tall ocean]

Anyone able too run me through some Acts? Busy making a aura bot for the upcoming patch

[sour pine]

How much would you think this is worth ? It has 333 dps, and isn't socketed yet

[zenith sigil]

we dont do price checking here