2┃after-acts-help

[pulsar hollow]

guess im gonna grab a 1 div belt and a stun charm for now
and go from there
then im gonna get a pillar with an AS corrupt instead of a 3rd slot
and then save up for some really expensive rings to transition into ingenuity

[tropic mulch]

anyone know how to fix the "can't interact with anything in map" bug? it's not my interact key

[pulsar hollow]

is it even worth to try to go for 5 delirium drops?
i always run out near the end of 4
should i just end delirium early for less risk?
or keep it going?

[plain raven]

you might aswell go for 5 its not like its getting harder

[pulsar hollow]

doesnt difficulty increase?
and so far i never got to 5

is there any other advantage to keeping it on besides potentially getting to 5?

[vague pike]

Move and kill the Delerium stuff faster

Better loot at the end of it

[storm sonnet]

why doesnt this work for atziri disdain circlet?

[vague pike]

It might be an implicit

[plain raven]

search for the enchant version

[vague pike]

or enchant

[plain raven]

implicit doesnt work

[storm sonnet]

ah ty

damn they were 1 div yesterday for 20 spirit

now its 3 div

[plain raven]

theres not a lot of ppl on right now, probably can get a better price in the evening

[storm sonnet]

spent the whole day to trade for 1 div lol happy to wait if i get it for 1

[plain raven]

self corrupting is also an option

if you have the patience to buy up the bases

[storm sonnet]

arent them like 1 ex?

[dusky star]

also, for the build you're playing, it's perfectly fine to use an amulet with spirit instead of atziri corrupt, can be cheaper

and lets you use your currency elsewhere

[plain raven]

it depends 50 spirit is the breakpoint for a lot of builds

[dusky star]

he's not getting 50 spirit

he's getting 20 spirit to run combat frenzy double herald grim feast (120)

and if he got an amulet instead he would be able to get 30-40+ to run precision/clarity on top, for cheaper

[storm sonnet]

is there a setting to search for non corrupted items?

[dusky star]

yes, you should not try to self-corrupt atziris

you are literally wasting currency

[plain raven]

idk what build hes running

[dusky star]

gemling stacker on a budget

[plain raven]

but 50 spirit being the breakpoint for a lot of builds, spirit on helm helps a lot, otherwise you need perfect roll spirit on your amulet which is 20x more expensive

[near walrus]

What does leeching do on maps?

[dusky star]

he doesn't need 50 spirit

[plain raven]

or split with your chest which is also bad

[dusky star]

jesus

[plain raven]

im just saying

[storm sonnet]

well i just finished campaign , got the pillar , howa , morrior and 270 ex left think thats enough to get the rest of the build going?

[dusky star]

buy a regular atziri with 2 sockets, don't buy a spirit corrupt, use your currency to get better attribute gear in the rest of your slots

such as breach rings/etc.

and get an amulet with some spirit + attributes + res

can probably make a decent deal on pre-catalyst'd breach rings, since attribute catalysts are so expensive now

[fickle field]

qhy does it say missing socket skill it wont let me use skill? is anyone can help

[dusky star]

put a skill in it

for it to use

[storm sonnet]

is it alright if i send a pic of what i wanna buy before actually buying it and sending it to the gemling chat?

[near walrus]

need to slot a skill in it

[dusky star]

sure roy, just most people won't bother to reply (and I probably won't either)

it's not against any rules

[near walrus]

what does leeching on maps do, only played solo so not sure. Im assuming its for xp?

[bleak urchin]

can be loot too i guess

[dusky star]

"leeching" is for people to get free exp in high tier maps
it benefits the ones running the map because they get more loot

it's generally not very useful for the leechers, all they get is some decent/mediocre exp

[storm sonnet]

ah understood

[dusky star]

you're better off farming currency/playing the game yourself and improving your character, instead of leeching in maps

[near walrus]

appreciate the info

[bleak urchin]

idk, i got my third toon from 68 to 80 very quickly leeching D:

[dusky star]

basically, the ones offering it are not doing anyone a service, they're just farming more loot

[storm sonnet]

how do i search for non corrupted items btw?

[storm sonnet]

oh didnt see it thanks

[storm sonnet]

if there arent any non corrupted 2 sockets do i just look for something with res/attributes?

[dusky star]

2 socket = corrupt outcome

if you're talking about atziri

[storm sonnet]

yep so i suppose by regular you meant no spirit

[dusky star]

yep

[storm sonnet]

ah got it now thanks

[mental pendant]

Gain 16% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage
30% increased Spell Damage

or

Gain 25% of Damage as Extra Cold Damage
Gain 24% of Damage as Extra Lightning Damage

what you guys prefer? ... i'm playing spark main

[junior hornet]

gain I guess

[normal plume]

why is armor bad?

[junior hornet]

short answer: it's weak against big hits and oneshots

[novel crow]

I'm lv94 and still want to leech off someone :|

[hidden helm]

is this gonna be another citadel with geonor

[plain raven]

thats the biryani one

[pale totem]

I am running blink, without temporalis
And I am using only 2 supports on it:

**Ingenuity: **30% cooldown rate
Arcane Tempo: 25% cast speed

Is there any other usefull support for it? (I have 31 spirit left)

[plain raven]

i dont think cast speed does anything?

theres another support that gives it an extra charge at the cost of cd, imho its pretty good

you get double blink basically

[hidden helm]

bro these biomes are all ezomyte city

[storm sonnet]

how bad is this for start of endgame as gemling?

[terse quail]

terrible

[storm sonnet]

what should i change?

[terse quail]

lol nah its fine

more es wouldnt hurt though

[storm sonnet]

actually got scared didnt know what to change

[terse quail]

you going pillar?

[storm sonnet]

yep

dont know if i should lower int for str

[dusky star]

the ingame tooltip is fairly reliable - note your DPS, then maybe respec 5-6 int nodes to str, see how your DPS looks after

the fubgun guide you're following also specifically says to keep even your lowest stat within 20% of your second lowest

you want them fairly balanced generally

[subtle hamlet]

Howa enjoyer?

[storm sonnet]

5 points raised my dps by 3k

[dusky star]

you also have the node that gives %dmg per lowest attribute

all the more reason to balance them

[storm sonnet]

then ill get more int into str

[grizzled grotto]

The only things the ingame tooltip doesn't account for are the buffs of or debuffs to enemies, just anything local and easy to calculate. But you should be able to intuit that the debuffs you're doing are gonna make the enemies take more damage than what your local damage says.

[obtuse zenith]

Hey everyone!
I'm Nordic Ghoul. I have played PoE1 & 2 for a decade with thousands of hours of experience. I freaking love to see all the new players and I really enjoy helping out and explaining stuff. You can usually find me in one of the voice channels for PoE2, if you have any questions about anything then feel free to ask me for help, feedback etc! You can also send me a PM and I'll answer ASAP.

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[dusky star]

that is the most hilarious message ever

[dusky star]

would have been even more funny if the idiot actually had pinged

[upper warren]

People tend to help without the self fellating here, hope this helps

[vague pike]

8 messages in 1 year of being on the server.

That's alot of helping

[grizzled grotto]

8 messages total on the server, all from this year, and he expects to get a pin

[vague pike]

3 of those messages was that ad 😄

[upper warren]

I can give some advice on cultivating a better self image

For free

[vague pike]

I had to leave my map in fear of dying cause I was laughing so hard

[upper warren]

Don't even need a pin!

[olive pasture]

what determines map level

i did a lvl 13 map

and on one hand i had lvl 79 and on the other i had lvl 77 monsters

not irradiated

[vague pike]

Corruption can also add a level

[upper warren]

Map you put in, corruption and irradiation

[olive pasture]

corruption, got it

so i completed a lvl 79 monster map

[vague pike]

Thats a T15

[olive pasture]

i need to boost next one with irradiated and corruption to get lvl 80 and get 2 points from boss if its on?

[grizzled grotto]

the waystone sets the base area level, then corruption and irradiation increase that by +1 each

[vague pike]

79 = T15
80 = T16
81 = T17
82 = T18

[olive pasture]

79 was a t14 one

[vague pike]

no

I mean the waystone might have been T14 but something modified it

to a T15

[grizzled grotto]

for lv 80 you can do:

• t14 +2 (irradiated + corrupted)
• t15 +1 (irradiated or corrupted)
• t16

[olive pasture]

so a t13 with irradiated and corruption is basically t15?

[upper warren]

Yes

[vague pike]

But its silly wasting nodes with Irre/Corruption on T13 maps

[grizzled grotto]

you only need one

[vague pike]

Get a T15-16 map with high Quant/Rarity etc

[grizzled grotto]

if that's how you wanna go then go for it

[olive pasture]

i need to upgrade bosses to help map ssutain, i am at lvl 13, got bunch of 14 maps but i must save them for next quest

[frigid lantern]

does it matter for me to keep getting more evasion ?

[vague pike]

Doing a T15 map will also clear T14 quest

Its T14+

[upper warren]

Going past 90% is very hard since you need mor and more evasion

[mental pendant]

bro i cant finish iron citadel... how to fix ...i killed all of em

[olive pasture]

is there a t15 quest?

[upper warren]

Might be worth speccing into acrobatics

[olive pasture]

because i dont have enough to finish them all

[upper warren]

You keep looking

[grizzled grotto]

that much evasion without "and protect me from harm" ☹️

[upper warren]

Oh true you'd just pick protect me from harm without acro

Since it also means better ghost dance

[queen sun]

Hi guys, i am trying to understand damage scaling, and it only says its converting %phys damage. Does that mean it does not scale off my flat cold damage on my bow?

[upper warren]

It does

It just means if you have phys, it'd convert it

[frigid lantern]

i dont have my 4th ascendancy

[grizzled grotto]

ah ok, well I went for that for my 3rd

[queen sun]

ah okay ty. and generally, is fork or more projectiles better for ice shot? @upper warren

[frigid lantern]

i went for unbound and now going there

[upper warren]

Definitely worth taking it instead of unbound

[grizzled grotto]

just saying, it's really powerful and well worth it. I'm CI with 2.8k es and I have to play kinda dumb to die.

[upper warren]

Both are kinda good

Play around with either and see what works better for you

[grizzled grotto]

tho I play kinda dumb alot and don't die

[frigid lantern]

i'm doing crit i think

[queen sun]

i guess i should use 2x 20% increased phys dmg runes, since the converted dmg is higher than flat cold dmg from runes, if my math adds up

[grizzled grotto]

I'm also crit, tho I need more crit chance

[upper warren]

Depends on the bow

[upper warren]

I'd say drop unbound and pick up protect me from harm

It's so good

[frigid lantern]

78% evasion now

[grizzled grotto]

more than enough

[grizzled grotto]

you should have about 70-72% phys reduction on your character sheet with that much evasion

[frigid lantern]

74

[grizzled grotto]

then you're 4% safer than me

[frigid lantern]

i'm at 36% crit rn in 2 lvls i can put this on, should be close to 50 and also fix mana issues

[leaden cargo]

Guys on the wiki its written that skill gem 20 drops in 82 83 84 area level but i cant get higher than 82 do u know how i can get 83 84 area level ?

[grizzled grotto]

ye, I need to pick up a staff with more crit chance. but leveling a spark build.

[upper warren]

definitely phys

[tropic mulch]

which staff base is the best btw?

[upper warren]

Corrupted and irradiated

[upper warren]

Not a question anyone can answer really

All of them have their uses

[leaden cargo]

yes with a corrupted and irradiated 16 map im at 82 but how do i get 83 and 84 area level ?

[queen sun]

ty!

[tropic mulch]

does corrupt and iradiate increase ilvl of items dropped?

[grizzled grotto]

Rare monsters drop +1 over the area level
Bosses and uniques drop +2 over the area level
83 is a t15 +2 rare, t16 +1 boss, or t16 +2 rare
84 is a t16 +2 boss

[leaden cargo]

ah ok ty

[grizzled grotto]

tho I think there's supposed to be a small chance at 81 or 82

[leaden cargo]

so basically i just need to kill bosses in 82 to get higher chance

yes 82 has a very small chance

[grizzled grotto]

for the best chance ye probly

I'm not sure if there are any unique enemies that can spawn in maps currently aside from bosses

[drowsy slate]

how u use this item ?

[grizzled grotto]

put them in your inv and read the tooltip

[tropic mulch]

do we know how much better the loot is on a magic compared to a white mob? and rare compared to blue? like how many white mobs an average rare mob is equal to in loot?

[grizzled grotto]

alot

[tropic mulch]

it's mostly the blue mobs I have a hard time assessing

[grizzled grotto]

it can be hard to quantify since you aren't gonna run into the exact same magic or rare monster mods consistently and they would each have different bonuses, but it's guaranteed that magic mobs will have better loot than normal ones, rares will have better loot than both, and uniques/bosses will have better loot than the previous three

and adding more mods (like with that atlas keystone) can buff their loot even more

[drowsy slate]

i do read , but doesnt understand since i didnt play POE 🤣

[tropic mulch]

oh so like each effect on them have its own inc loot %?

[scenic scaffold]

if your running CI can you get 1 shot to hungry fangs in the trial of sekhemas

[grizzled grotto]

they work differently from poe1. they work like oils now but the anoint interface is opened by right clicking them, as it says in their tooltip.

[grizzled grotto]

what's hungry fangs?

[tropic mulch]

5% life mana and ES max lost on getting hit

[grizzled grotto]

then no

[scenic scaffold]

yea its the 5% thing

i dont want to do trial and get 1 shot lol

[grizzled grotto]

any % below 100% rounds down to 0

[tropic mulch]

that effect is VERY dangerous in some aoes though

[scenic scaffold]

im on the boss fight so im sketched to start it

was my last minor aff

[plain raven]

the only thing that is worrysome are those vase mobs that shoot like 20 proj per second

[tropic mulch]

shouldn't make or break your boss fight don't worry

[tropic mulch]

yes!

[scenic scaffold]

doing hc ssf i died last time forgetting to switch my helmet when i went ci the unique one where converts 30% dmg to life instead of energy shield

[grizzled grotto]

you can't take less than 100% of 1 life. any % damage rounds down. it would only hurt your es and mana.

[scenic scaffold]

reason im sketched

[plain raven]

unfortunately you still get the mob hit on top so you still die

[grizzled grotto]

tho make sure you read mana flasks carefully cause the mana taken from life prefix can kill you, since it's essentially flat life damage.

[tropic mulch]

yeah well don't get hit duh

[grizzled grotto]

if you have no es

then sure

[tropic mulch]

is the affliction that makes you take X damage on finishing a room really dangerous btw?

[plain raven]

im not sure what are you trying to say, if you get the 5% debuff and get the volley from the vase mob to the face you are dead <1 sec

es or not

it zeros you

[grizzled grotto]

it would take from your es first, like any other phys

[upper warren]

What Tech is saying is that it won't instakill you if you're CI

You can still die normally

[tropic mulch]

yeah it kills you because you take 5% your ES 20 times, it doesn't one tap your 1hp though

[grizzled grotto]

that's just you getting overwhelmed, not getting oneshot by an affliction

[drowsy slate]

i understand ald after watching youtube

but wgats the best 1 for merc ?

[upper warren]

I mean the pot skill is very much bugged

[plain raven]

you still die with CI cause theres a normal attack with it too, its not like you only get the 5% removal

[grizzled grotto]

that's a very subjective question

based on build and preference

[upper warren]

He is saying if you're CI, you don't get instakilled by fangs

[last cobalt]

there is a affliction that would 100 to 0 your es and makes it so u only have 1 life in the trial 😄 and than your playing a no hit run basically

[upper warren]

He's specifically talking about the CI and fangs interaction

[drowsy slate]

if glavinic sshard ?

[plain raven]

well yea sure your ES depletes 1st

but if you take the full volley, you die

[tropic mulch]

yeah the "you have no ES" is not CI friendly lmao

[upper warren]

Not the point of the conversation

[grizzled grotto]

not sure, does your build have an anoint on the amulet?

[scenic scaffold]

i didnt get hit at all so i will never know unless test later on main

[grizzled grotto]

there are ALOT of nodes on the tree that can be anointed and I haven't played that build

[drowsy slate]

anoint?

[grizzled grotto]

you're asking about anointing

[tropic mulch]

does chaos res really helps against the purple orbs?

[drowsy slate]

o wes

ahah

[upper warren]

yes

[grizzled grotto]

yes

[upper warren]

They're pure chaos damage

[tropic mulch]

pure? awh

need to find that purple res

[grizzled grotto]

purple = chaos
green = poison (also chaos)

[tropic mulch]

I'm trying to make items myself but it's not going great

[drowsy slate]

eerm , +40% 2 hand weapon dmg is bigger than +40% projectile dmg ?

[tropic mulch]

same

ok going back to grinding my atlas

[grizzled grotto]

any increases that can apply to the tags on your skill and your weapon type count the same. so for galvanic, any lightning, projectile, and 2h damage increases would all add the same amount to your damage.

[silk schooner]

why am i unable to socket any support on the built in skeletons from rattling sceptre?

[drowsy slate]

but do they stack ?

[grizzled grotto]

it's even recommended 🤔

[tropic mulch]

they stack additively

[grizzled grotto]

yes. 40% inc lightning damage would add onto 40% inc projectile damage for 80% inc damage

[drowsy slate]

i see

[copper raft]

Can you show your gems menu? Full screenshot.

[drowsy slate]

sorry my english is horrinle >< , still googling what does additively mean

[tropic mulch]

your english is good don't worry ^^

[silk schooner]

ah its because its a corrupted sceptre... thats lame rip 4div

[grizzled grotto]

it can be a bit complex, but increases all add onto eachother. then "more" bonuses add with eachother then multiply after the "increases"

[copper raft]

No, it's not supposed to work like that. There must be something wrong.

[silk schooner]

well i bought a random sceptre from npc and it just works

[drowsy slate]

but it wont show at here ?

[copper raft]

Can you put there some random int gem? Just for the sake of the experiment.

[olive pasture]

do expedition monsters have some kind of on death attack? i just died to an expedition monster wave off screen

i have no idea what killed me saw no blast animation and no dot on me

[grizzled grotto]

they might have alot of different ones

did you take a remnant that deals damage to you?

[olive pasture]

i mean the remnants i did was all +get more this that and increaes size

[grizzled grotto]

or makes you take more damage?

[olive pasture]

no

logbooks

[grizzled grotto]

they have 2 lines

[olive pasture]

and poison damage more was the only damage one

but i was not poisoned

[grizzled grotto]

one buffs the monster, one buffs the loot

[olive pasture]

all the buffs to monsters were buffs to health and resits

[silk schooner]

im holding feeding freezing but skeles is just grayed out cant socket anything =[ its because sceptre is corrupted

[grizzled grotto]

ok then it could have been any number of magic or rare modifiers

[olive pasture]

i literally died off screen, like in dota

with no monsters near me

[grizzled grotto]

were you degening?

[olive pasture]

and im a 80% block chance build that has turtle

degen?

[grizzled grotto]

bleeds cause more damage when you move. if you aren't ci then chaos dot or poison can get you.

if it was one shot then something could have been chasing you

[copper raft]

Wow. I didn't know it works like that. Cause when you unslot the scepter, all the gems are put into your invenory...

[grizzled grotto]

it's hard to tell what killed you without a clip

[silk schooner]

seems like bug but thats how it is for now

[olive pasture]

i have no idea, i kep watching the screen after i died they were all mostly ofcused on the expedition npc and some of them were really far away

something similiar happened when i started a breach

i usuually start a breach then jump leap in palce to stun prep

but mid air i just froze

and i was frozen for 5 seconds, died slowly to mass of hits

i kept watching the screen none of the enemies had freeze

whene i say frozen i mean completely in game frozen (not ice)

[grizzled grotto]

I've seen a clip where a warrior got frozen mid leap

hows your connection? do you have the data graphs up? (F1)

[olive pasture]

considering i died 5 times in so far its super annoying

[wanton dawn]

too much cold blood made him freeze

[olive pasture]

good con, ms never above 30, fps always 110+

[grizzled grotto]

if it's freezes, get a thawing charm

[wanton dawn]

can u tell me what map wwhat is it

[grizzled grotto]

I like to use one with inc duration + charges per second

[olive pasture]

ill just accept it as a part of ea and move on

[wanton dawn]

the breach u did

[olive pasture]

forest

big open forest with hills

but no trees

[wanton dawn]

forest with no trees u say

[grizzled grotto]

do you remember the mods? anything rippy?

[wanton dawn]

hmmmm

[olive pasture]

so mb not forest kind of bushy area

[olive pasture]

nah

[olive pasture]

most open map i have seen surrounded by hills, and small patches of medium sized trees all over, and map is full oh hills

and i got a rare stuck outside map range, the screenshot i posted a day or two ago

map is very brown, if it helps

but yeah, click on breach jump, stuck mid air, die to waves incoming after 5 seconds

it does not hurt me that i died ( i died 5 times on maps so far anyway, and im on t13) but the fact that i ALWAYS die on the most best setup of a map. The exepediton one had a boss + corruption. fuck me...

[vague valve]

GGG sent their assassins to end you

[olive pasture]

fuck my life i mainly do ritual becasuse i want that invitation, and i never have troubles face tanking ,but these damn expedition mobs just slap

[olive pasture]

i think just ea being ea

[wanton dawn]

wait by frozen u mean

by a mob

or ur pc crash type thing

i didnt read all that

[median vector]

what map level do simulacrum splinters start dropping?

[grizzled grotto]

75

[median vector]

which map tier is that though?

[wanton dawn]

and the map was probably steppe

im right

[grizzled grotto]

t11

[olive pasture]

think of it like you see your character time stopped mid air, that kind of thing

[grizzled grotto]

you could do t9 +2 or t10 +1 for the minimum, but not worth it with how many you'd need to do

[olive pasture]

i dont read the map names but probably

[wanton dawn]

steppe is a huge map,when u do a breach on that map theres like a gorilion mobs coming at you

[vague valve]

this was happening to me a lot a week ago while i was playing through act 1 cruel, random time-stop but not a crash or freeze, and id get either killed by something or sent back to the log in screen

[olive pasture]

i've never ever died to a breach on any map, even if the whole screen is in breach mobs

[olive pasture]

sadness

[vague valve]

no clue what it was but after force quitting it would stop for a while and after a few instances it just went away

[olive pasture]

last week i had huge number of game crashes like internet failure, character just start doing robot dance then game drops

and i actually prefer screen of enemies, leap into boneshatter defeats all

[wanton dawn]

what im tryna say i crash during breaches too sometimes,like 1 in 20 i get a crash,when theres generally liek a shitton of mobs,im talking like steppe map with increased pack sizes etcetc

[olive pasture]

ah well crap if that hpapened nothing i can do about it, sad

[idle sapphire]

this guy gave me the wrong chest piece and kicked me and ignored me after i realized it .

is there anything i can do to get my currency back or am i done

[grizzled grotto]

and?

just finish the report and move on

[tropic mulch]

guys am I not understanding chaos orbs? I use it on a 6affix rare item and no line changes?

[idle sapphire]

and he took my 15 div , theres nothing i can do about it ?????

[tropic mulch]

you got scammed :x

[grizzled grotto]

then you should have checked in the trade window

[wanton dawn]

wait what happen lol

[tropic mulch]

ALWAYS check that it's the right item

[idle sapphire]

no shit moron , it's a simple yes or no question

[wanton dawn]

did u just got scammed

[idle sapphire]

usless mf

[grizzled grotto]

back to farming

[vague valve]

boils down to having to be more careful when trading honestly

happens to the best of us

[grizzled grotto]

nothing we can do about it

[olive pasture]

dont rage on other people because of what happened to you, if you trade yo should always dobule check what you are trading for no rush it. Eitoher way report and hope its solved

[wanton dawn]

that 15 div gone asap

[olive pasture]

scammers are very common in any game that has people with people trades

[idle sapphire]

dont be smooth brain , it's because he saying the obvious just like you , when im asking a question , not what i could've done different

dumb mfs

[olive pasture]

bro in that case lfmao stupid noob get rekt by trade learn better next time

[wanton dawn]

lmaooo

[grizzled grotto]

the only one to be mad at is yourself for not checking. they force you to hover the item to complete the trade

go take a breather

[idle sapphire]

and you don't know english

low iq ^

[olive pasture]

sweet divines enjoyer smacking his lips somehwere out there

you will learn in time our sweet child

[plain raven]

10/10 skill issue

[idle sapphire]

the question was if there's anything i can do about it , not what i could've done different . you should read more too

low iq mfs over here

[grizzled grotto]

Sanjin, step away and cool off

[olive pasture]

with that attitude, there is aboslutely nothing you can do

[vague valve]

you asked what could be done about your inability to read an items stats before accepting the trade (i wonder why you have to hover over an item before accepting the trade) and you were given an answer that satisfied the question parameters, dont get upset at others for your own mistake

[tropic mulch]

anyone know why my item don't change when I chaos orb it? :x

[vague valve]

nobody here scammed you dont be so heated over it

[idle sapphire]

smooth brain mfs over here ^

[plain raven]

well you either misclick, try to chaos a corrupted item, or you are incredibly gifted and rerolled the same stats

[olive pasture]

they way he acts, that scam is a lesson that should be well learned

[grizzled grotto]

and everyone else can stop egging him on

[tropic mulch]

like 4 times in a row? f me

[opal badge]

happened to me before, i chaosed a pair of gloves and it apparently rerolled the exact same stat

[idle sapphire]

they just low iq

[plain raven]

are you sure you are using chaos orb lol

[olive pasture]

after the way i just died on the map with expedition? I want him here, stress relief

[grizzled grotto]

shush

[idle sapphire]

and you also didn't reply , you just commented about being smarter

so do better

[opal badge]

did i walk into drama

[olive pasture]

sure takes a lot of iq not to look at item before you buy it

[vague valve]

someone's on their way to mute city

[olive pasture]

nah you walked in a queen

[idle sapphire]

ok buzz lightyear

[olive pasture]

the one and only

[idle sapphire]

this mf smooth brain and got the maturity of a 10 year old ggs

[olive pasture]

if i am 10 years old then you are 5

[idle sapphire]

can't read english and can't answer questions

sheeeeesh

[upper warren]

Alright enough spamming the chat with irrelevant crying

[silk schooner]

leaving this here: on weapons with built in skills with the affix reduced stat requires, you might be able to equip the item but at the same time unable to socket gems into the built in skills if dont need stats

[upper warren]

This is the help channel and people gave you advice, move on

[olive pasture]

ok we done her it was fun, long story short, pay more attention so you don't get scammed in the future. Reproting can help, but probably GGG won't do squat atm, too many tickets

[junior star]

Hey guys, can someone explain to me in the simplest way how i obtain a stronger version of my current crossbow/weapon - is there a way i can obtain a stronger version of my current weapon (item level 79) - is the only means of me actually making the damage stronger by either finding one that has better stats (150%+ physical and 90%+ elemental dmg) - because i feel like my damage has plateaued and not sure how i go about upgrading or obtaining a better one - yes i know theres traders but im asking outside of traders how would i try and get a better weapon - can i obtain from random drops in hopes of finding one with the better stats or do i just use orbs til it hits just right ?

Thanks in advance

[idle sapphire]

lil girl decided to answer

thats how you answer

low iq mfs

all you dumb asf

[vague valve]

if im spending 15 divs on an item and dont read carefully before accepting the trade thats my own fault, stop taking your anger out on others and learn from the mistake and move on

[idle sapphire]

go back to ur virgin convos

fat mfs

[olive pasture]

oh i answered before, but you ignored it, i am just repeating myself,

[upper warren]

@silent nebula Can we get rid of this guy spamming up the chat ?Thanks

[idle sapphire]

u never said none of that dumb fat boy

[olive pasture]

bro you are on your way to ban pit

just a matter of time

[leaden cargo]

guys what does the (tier x) mean on item dropped ?

x is for a number

max i had is 5

[idle sapphire]

cry about it baby girl , go find something to do

[cerulean jasper]

nvm

[upper warren]

If you are on trade, the best option is trading. You can ID expert bases and hope for an upgrade but you'll definitely get one faster with just trade. You could try to essence craft one but that'll get expensive quick

Thanks

[junior star]

cheers, so basically save up - buy a stronger version - save up - buy a stronger version and then hope to find a good drop to recover the money spent

[upper warren]

Basically

[junior star]

poo

next best one is 2-10 divs

so im stuck on this dmg until then

[olive pasture]

sweet silence thanks mods

[plain raven]

look into your jewels theres lots of dps to be had there, probably the rest of your gear too - idk what build you are running

[median vector]

does a hideout node on the map have to be done with a specific tier of waystone? What happens if you fail that hideout node?

[plain raven]

nothing you just redo it afaik but they are ez. not much science to it

[median vector]

just making sure because i finally found one lol, im only on like t10 maps atm

[copper raft]

No. It's a special kind of map, but can be done by any.

[grizzled grotto]

I think I did my first one with t4 or t5, it doesn't matter

and it's a tiny area so it doesn't take long

[craggy glade]

does anyone have a low lvl spirit gem i could buy? like lv 5ish?

[green spire]

How do you deal with those bastard enemy with the blue circle shield circle thing around them that move really fast and drain your life and mana? They get me every time

[grizzled grotto]

we don't do trades here, you can check the trade site https://www.pathofexile.com/trade2

[leaden cargo]

I HAVE A LV 6

caps

[plain raven]

I have one 5 & 6 /w me @Toby_Cleer

[grizzled grotto]

or people can offer anyway lol

[leaden cargo]

mb didnt know we dont trade

[hollow parcel]

Hello,

Yesterday, I made several changes to my Passive Skill Tree. However, when I logged in today, my Passive Skill Tree had reverted to its previous state, and the gold I spent was missing.

[grizzled grotto]

they shouldn't be draining life

[plain raven]

maybe you specced your weapon swap by misstake?

[grizzled grotto]

https://discord.com/channels/174993814845521922/1308714168576249887

[green spire]

Maybe the attack is draining life but I can’t attack them cause they move too fast for me to get distance and they deplete my mana

[hollow parcel]

no 😦

[grizzled grotto]

someone said only the outer ring drains your mana? I haven't found another yet to confirm that tho

[hollow parcel]

i have 24/24 so no

[leaden cargo]

guys is it just me or 16 are reaaaaaally rare ?

just vaal 15 t15 got 2

[plain raven]

yea thats true if you go inside the circle you dont get drained

[dawn sleet]

it's 1 in 8

[median vector]

whats an easy way to search for specific tier of waystone in your stash? I tried numbers but it gets filled with random ones anyways 😮

[grizzled grotto]

you're rolling a 25% chance for it to go +/- 1 tier then supposedly a 50% chance for +1. it's ~1/8 chance

[green spire]

Really? So it’s just the ring itself that drains mana? Will try again next time I see one cheers

[dawn sleet]

Should be tier:15

[plain raven]

yea, i suppose because it would just literally brick every melee build

[clever cliff]

exalt exalt vaal repeat, the cycle of t16 continues

[grizzled grotto]

"tier: X"

[leaden cargo]

So im complaining for nothing im in the stats

[median vector]

thanks!

[plain raven]

i do it like this: 14)

shortest way

[grizzled grotto]

ooh the regex site is updated
https://poe2.re/

[plain raven]

i dont get it though the site seems wrong

you cant get 50+ quant on waystone

[grizzled grotto]

they're also missing some bad mods, but I can add those in myself

and you can lower the numbers manually when you paste it, they maybe just didn't realise the quant can't go that high, unless poedb is missing a non-hybrid quant mod

[subtle hamlet]

Rng be rng

[subtle hamlet]

Kill em before they touch ya

[grizzled grotto]

can't

[pliant trench]

Why did it force me to defer this?

[grizzled grotto]

unless you're super optimized to be able to oneshot rares or have stun, freeze, or electricute, it's really easy for them to get in your face

[pliant trench]

And also at what point can u grab it?

[grizzled grotto]

when you have enough favour

[subtle hamlet]

When you can get enough or keep deferring

[subtle hamlet]

You're using only physical?

[olive pasture]

keep defering that until you grab it it is super rare

[subtle hamlet]

Almost 2k exalts

[grizzled grotto]

my monk freezes, my sorc electrocutes (for now) but enemies can still run up in my face. it's not as simple as "just kill shit"

[subtle hamlet]

Time to run away then

[cloud hawk]

y wont trial of seklhemas show up on any of my acts i skipped past it an it keeps bringin me back to the cave

[subtle hamlet]

Act 2 normal?

[cloud hawk]

ye both normal and cruel

[grizzled grotto]

did you find the trial area in a2 normal?

cause it's the exact same area

[cloud hawk]

it wont let me go to the locatoin i think its a bug

[grizzled grotto]

is it light blue or dark blue?

[cloud hawk]

doesnt even show on the map or anything complete gone

[grizzled grotto]

this isn't on your map?

[grizzled grotto]

did you kill balbala in a2 normal?

[cloud hawk]

yea

[grizzled grotto]

did you kill him in a2 cruel?

[cloud hawk]

yup

[grizzled grotto]

I think it should still be there even if you didn't but not sure why it would be hidden now

and you went to the trial entrance to get the waypoint in a2 normal?

[cloud hawk]

ill beat them both again but i spent about 4hs last night messin around with it

[grizzled grotto]

show your a2 normal map

[median vector]

what are these red orbs?

[grizzled grotto]

beyond markers, from coalesced corruption. if you kill more things near them they have a chance to spawn beyond monsters.

[grizzled grotto]

looks like you skipped some quests

what's that quest marked one in the middle?

[tropic mulch]

traitor passage?

[cloud hawk]

ascent to power it says them on both

[grizzled grotto]

try going there

ascent to power is the quest line to get into the trial of the sekhemas

[cloud hawk]

i did but on both acts it keeps takin me back to the boss cave

this a new build i got to 92 on my monk

[grizzled grotto]

the cave balbala is in?

[cloud hawk]

but im doin ranger now

[grizzled grotto]

did you not pick up the quest barya?

[cloud hawk]

i did when i did it both times then i put it in my stach after i got it

[grizzled grotto]

you can't put the quest one in your stash

it shows green on the ground

[cloud hawk]

maybe i droped it?

[grizzled grotto]

maybe, but I haven't heard of anyone being completely locked out of sekhema. I assume you dropped the quest barya and carried on with the campaign without going for the sekhema waypoint.

[cloud hawk]

might have

[grizzled grotto]

did you do trial of chaos?

[cloud hawk]

yea thats the only one i can do

[grizzled grotto]

then you can do all 4 with that

4 > 7 > 10 > trialmaster

you can buy the keys to get into the trialmaster fight on a 10

[cloud hawk]

the game makin me acsend legitly lol i can pay 1 div to get out of it

[grizzled grotto]

if you think you can handle it

I'd reccomend trying to go thru the quest again in a2 normal

the quest isn't supposed to show in a2 cruel, it's bugged there. but it should work in normal.

make sure you talk to the parson on the caravan after killing balbala, you may have missed talking to an npc or taking a quest reward.

if all else fails, message support and make a bug report on the forums. you may have found a particularly uncommon one and it would be good to make the devs aware so they can fix it.

[raven ingot]

what kind of biome is ezomyte city?

[grizzled grotto]

read the info on the node, it should say

[raven ingot]

that's literally what's on the node, "biome: ezomyte city"

[spiral olive]

is it better for loot to do pinnacle solo or in a group?

[dusky star]

probably a unique biome related to the citadels?

[raven ingot]

right make sense since it's neaby a citadel thanks

[ebon cargo]

how high do you need to overcap on resists to not have to worry about elemental weakness?

[upper warren]

15%

[ebon cargo]

sweet

something I learned yesterday, never put your tier 16 'bricked' waystones on a public trade tab for 5 exalts each... lol

one man's "brick" is every other man's treasure

[dusky star]

any T16 is worth something, basically

no matter how brick

[ebon cargo]

yea, I know, I shoulda researched the bulk exchanges for them, I just got so much spam so fast

[bronze raft]

guys, so i completed the 4th trial.. and before i take the chest ill teleport back to city.. how do i get in again?

yea. but the door is closed🥲 thanks for answer<3

[grizzled grotto]

if you portal out you might be able to go back in, but I haven't tested it. in sekhema there's a stash at the end of each floor, they really need to add one to chaos

tho I know you can portal out of chaos in the middle, just not sure about at the end

sekhema is safe, I believe it would be the same for chaos but can't confirm

[plain raven]

you do lose xp yes

losing to honour loss doesnt kill you

but if you die you get -10%

yes ofc

[ebon cargo]

I think it's any death

[grizzled grotto]

honour death is safe

it even says as much on the wiki

[ebon cargo]

do you actually 'die' when you get an honor loss? never had it happen to me

meaning, I've never failed because of that

not that I've lost due to running out of honor and didn't 'die'

[grizzled grotto]

honour doesn't stop you from dying to zeroing out

it's the same as it was with sanctums resolve, but sekhema is alot more forgiving

[ebon cargo]

oh question about breaches - if I have let's say 3 in a map, can I chain them together or is it better to just wait until they expire before starting another?

had a sulfuric caverns map last night that had like 5 in it

lol

[grizzled grotto]

they will each spawn their own monsters if they work the same as poe1

[ebon cargo]

gotcha

[wanton dawn]

if u have a potato pc

chaining them might explode ur pc

ngl

[ebon cargo]

oh, yea not a problem here

[scenic torrent]

Even kn my pretty good ring 3s my limit

I start playing a slide show

After 3

[wanton dawn]

🤣

[ebon cargo]

usually for me the issue is the particle effects on my skills hitting them so fast

causes frame loss

lol

shatter effect is really pretty until you shatter 75 mobs on the screen at once

[scenic torrent]

Ive got a 13700k and 7900gre with 64gb of ram

[scenic torrent]

Me with shock fr

[ebon cargo]

13900k, 4070TI and 64 gb here

[keen valve]

turn off sound in config to get more stable fps

[ebon cargo]

so similiar rigs

[scenic torrent]

Also if I do D4 Mist King with my friend and he hosts do I get all 4 books?

[ebon cargo]

but how will I know when good stuff drops if I can't hear my filter sounds

[keen valve]

you can turn off everything except filter sounds

[ebon cargo]

ooo

[keen valve]

just don't turn off this property in the config item_filter_sound_volume2

[ebon cargo]

oh so you mean opening the actual .config file (.ini?) not just doing it in the in-game settings

[keen valve]

and this if you want to hear trade requests chat_alert_sound_volume

[ebon cargo]

is that in the same folder as your loot filters?

[grizzled grotto]

it only counts if you open it

[keen valve]

yes, and it's important to set the values to false not 0

[ebon cargo]

I also found that right now vulkan is outperforming dx12 and doesn't crash at all for me, think they are aware of the dx12 issues though

that's an nvidia problem though iirc

[keen valve]

[SOUND]
master_volume2=16
sound_effects_volume2=false
ambient_sound_volume2=false
music_volume2=false
dialogue_sound_volume2=false
item_filter_sound_volume2=100
reverb_enabled2=false
mute_in_background=false
channel_count=high
chat_alert_sound_volume=100
cinematic_sound_volume=false
disable_char_events=true

[ebon cargo]

got it

will just copy paste that, thanks man

[keen valve]

you're welcome

[ebon cargo]

do I need to keep mix_setting=headphones audio_device_id=

bleh guessing if I got rid of them, game would just write them back in

[keen valve]

mh, I don't have those but I would just leave them like they are

or remove and see if there is any difference

[ebon cargo]

I tried changing the networking_type to lockstep

cause always heard that was better in POE1

but don't think it made a diff

[keen valve]

it doesn't make a difference because at the moment there is only lockstep if I recall correctly

[ebon cargo]

yea

good

[keen valve]

In the last interview they said that they need to fix the other one of which I forgot the name

[grizzled grotto]

predictive

they'll get it back in later

[ebon cargo]

never used that one, but imagine it's good for playing w/ ppl in other regions

[grizzled grotto]

they work differently depending on your connection

[ebon cargo]

notice if I go into someone's hideout in like the asia region, gets mega latency

[grizzled grotto]

but the basic principle is that lockstep doesn't move you til the server lets you move while predictive lets you move then verifies where you're going with the server

[scenic torrent]

is headland a good breach map?

[cloud hawk]

now when i do maps if the boss has balbala it tries droping a coin and goes invinsible lol

[amber bough]

with exalt value plummeting massively every day… is something else gonna replace it as the staple currency below divine?

[ebon cargo]

usually chaos orb does

[amber bough]

ah

[wintry aspen]

do you guys recommend shield or focus on archmage spark build?

[grizzled grotto]

chaos orb function is different from poe1, that's why the exalt took over as the primary currency

and why chaos is more valuable than exalt

[stray geyser]

QQ i want to instil my amulet and the big question i have rn is if i can have a passive on the amulet and also in the skilltree? so i can just double the effect?

[grizzled grotto]

no

[ebon cargo]

nope, they do not stack

[scenic torrent]

Also if I do D4 Mist King with my friend and he hosts do I get all 4 books?

[uneven heath]

wtf is going on with the ex to div ratio??? is this the bitcoin from 2025 or???

[mossy loom]

if he host, youre not doing diff4 king

[grizzled grotto]

again, it only counts if you open it

[mossy loom]

and if you host it, he will not get books at all

[scenic torrent]

Oh I see

[olive pasture]

lol im stuck in a lvl 15 map with a mage that has modifier that makes him shoot like a lvl 90 ranger. pure machine. no idea how to approarch this.

[grizzled grotto]

all the pinnacle bosses need to be done on your map device with your atlas passives

to be able to get more points

[rotund plaza]

any way to force maps to have corruption league mechanic on them? (not irradiated)

[keen valve]

nope

[tropic mulch]

guys what's the point of annuls? is there special shenanigans to pull with them instead of just using a chaos?

[ebon cargo]

if you use the omens when crafting

can target specific affixes using them

[tropic mulch]

ah I haven't read all of those yet

ty

[ebon cargo]

I mean it's expensive to craft that way lol

probably cheaper to just buy something that has wuw on it for currency

but, I personally enjoy crafting, even if POE2s hasn't caught up to the first one yet.

kinda glad in a way, so many options in POE for crafting that it feels overwhelming sometimes.

[grizzled grotto]

I hope we get scours back

it's rough with getting the wrong mods and either having to destroy or reforge the item to try again

[ebon cargo]

yea, scours were the ones that turned it back into a white item right?

removed all of the affixes

[grizzled grotto]

ye

[ebon cargo]

yea, I miss those

[velvet ruin]

Yea I agree with that. I also like it I had a near perfect mods roll. I could just like re roll my fire resistance higher

[ebon cargo]

yea crafting bench was definitely MVP

lol

[grizzled grotto]

I just wanna be able to try again without being forced to buy a new base

idk how ssf is supposed to do gear with the current crafting system. at least in poe1 they could keep trying.

[ebon cargo]

Yea, crafting definitely feels less skill related right now and more luck related

[storm sonnet]

are there unlimited maps?

[grizzled grotto]

yes

[keen valve]

interesting topic. what's the point of being able to craft the perfect item? it sounds like it would make the game boring very fast and also little reason to grind

[grizzled grotto]

the whole point of the game is grinding for perfect items

[ebon cargo]

hell naw, mirror service

[grizzled grotto]

once that's done you move onto the next game til the next league

or mirror that item for profit

[keen valve]

exactly but why enable that through crafting?

[ebon cargo]

it's the whole foundation of why we play ARPGs

lol

[grizzled grotto]

cause it's fun to have stronger items

[ebon cargo]

they are min-max grind games

[grizzled grotto]

why would you NOT want a perfect item?

[keen valve]

you probably missed it but I asked why enable perfect items through crafting? dropping them and praying to RNGesus should be the way

ARPGs foundation is RNG. why change that?

[grizzled grotto]

I never see good items from drops. if we had to rely on that as the only source of upgrades then I would have quit years ago

crafting is still rng

you need alot of luck to get perfect items even with poe1s systems

[ebon cargo]

crafting also adds another layer of optional complexity to the game

[mossy loom]

my sanity.. after trying to get specific synth implicits in poe1, for whole 2 weeks, spending multiple mirrors

and not getting it xd

still huge rng

[keen valve]

the system that we have right now yes. but when I scroll through reddit people want to get some base throw couple of currency on it and have the perfect item

sounds boring af

[ebon cargo]

I have like 2.5k hours in POE1 and still have no idea how beast crafting works without following a guide.

[arctic crag]

Has there been any discussion about crafting bench? Like did they talk about it in any video or Q&A?

[mossy loom]

this way of crafting? yeah its boring. but crafting in poe (excluding some league wierd mechanics) is still huge rng

[ebon cargo]

I think they are focused on finishing campaign / end game / rest of the classes right now

[arctic crag]

I liked the simple benchcrafts

[ebon cargo]

also the RNG is what makes the currency have any value

[arctic crag]

I think someone was talking about it the other day but a div's value shouldnt be so high if it were solely based on crafting

[ebon cargo]

and anyone on reddit who says 'i bought a base item and threw an alch + 3 exalts and got this perfect item' is full of $*##

or they don't truly know what a perfect item is lol

[arctic crag]

There aren't many options now besides omens right?

[grizzled grotto]

clearly the perfect item has the most things

[arctic crag]

yes, those things

[pulsar hollow]

wait
do i have to do the trialmaster shit 3 times
so i can actually fight him once
to get my last ascendancy???

[arctic crag]

more things = better

[grizzled grotto]

at least 3, or buy the pieces

[pulsar hollow]

man

[arctic crag]

you can do sekhema for 4th, I personally thought it was easier.

[tropic quarry]

Last fight was pretty fun too imo

[ebon cargo]

the number of 6 great affix items corrupted without any quality on the auction house I see, or GG vaal'd uniques w/ no quality is too damn high still 😄

[grizzled grotto]

sekhema is loads easier as long as you cap honour res

[arctic crag]

And I used to hate it, but it seems like its not as bad as I thought and you can set up good relics for it.

[pulsar hollow]

sekhema fucking sucks cause of honor

[grizzled grotto]

skill issue

[arctic crag]

I have now even done a few of those for currency.

[pulsar hollow]

you try moving precisely with a statstacker gemling

its annoying at best

[arctic crag]

dw about that, have max honor res and take hits

[tropic quarry]

I didn't realize statstacker gemling had different movement mechanics

Just curious, what makes them so different?

[keen valve]

you just run through with a statstacker

no reason to stop lol

[grizzled grotto]

how can you not move? 🤨

[pulsar hollow]

i dont have movespeed on my boots
because i move using my attack

[arctic crag]

yea switch to movespeed boots, its big for sanctum and tbh for everything

[tropic quarry]

Dang, sounds like quite the build limitation to take on (not being able to move freely, and instead relying on moving to enemies or targetable objects)

[ebon cargo]

[tropic quarry]

Personally I'm not sure I could take a build with that restriction.

[arctic crag]

Wait is it a flicker strike build?

[pulsar hollow]

gotta say, the escort mission in the trial is annoying af
cause i kept moving out of range by attacking

[keen valve]

tempest flurry is used for going around. no locked target needed

[pulsar hollow]

tempest flurry with high aspd

[keen valve]

it's way faster but also you can get stuck on a lof ot things

[tropic quarry]

Even then, not having free and reliable movement seems like a poor build choice in this game (imo)

Considering how big of a part movement and mechanics plays in poe2

[pulsar hollow]

well
the tradeoff is big dmg and you can clear maps REALLY fast

[arctic crag]

But yea tl;dr I was saying the same exact things you are saying, even as of a few weeks ago, but I find it easier now. Just look into your relic setup and find out about good boons/easy afflictions etc.

[grizzled grotto]

the whole game is designed for you to move out of the way of the mechanics so you don't die, that's why we got a dodge roll

[worldly grail]

They should have a trading app so i don't have to log in

[tropic quarry]

Right, if we've made the decision to make this sacrifice then perhaps it's not such a bad thing that this build has trouble with sekhema then?

[worldly grail]

half the time i don't want to play, I just want my items to sell so i can buy more stuff

[pulsar hollow]

i still have just a few old relics from act 3 questing
so i prolly need to buy some better relics
any recommendations?

[arctic crag]

Tell them!

[grizzled grotto]

stack up 75% honor res and a bunch of max honor/life/defences and you'll have a much easier time

[tropic quarry]

Like we make concessions in our build, certainly areas that require the things we gave up probably aren't the target for our build.

[arctic crag]

poe1 on consoles had a trade market (similar flow to currency market), granted it was meh for searching, it was

so I do see the possibility of something like that being added for poe2 in the future

[pulsar hollow]

yeah
of course
but i still think honor is a stupid mechanic that punishes melee characters, especially those with forced movement
and completely negates builds that sustain by killing
which poe2 endgame seems kinda built around otherwise

[tropic quarry]

That's the entire point of the trial though.

It punishes builds that rely on simply tanking damage.

You have to do the mechanics to proceed, and you have to have a character that is capable of it.

[grizzled grotto]

melee characters get a free 35% less honour damage taken lol

[arctic crag]

just cap honor res and try a few trials to get a better feel for what boons work well with your char, you'll see how easy it is.

[wintry aspen]

hey, is there atlas tree guide ?

[ebon cargo]

thousands of them lol 😄

[grizzled grotto]

if anything the trial is way too easy for melee now

[ebon cargo]

I just use maxroll's meta currency farming one

[grizzled grotto]

if you are struggling then you need to address your defences

[pulsar hollow]

do they?
thats news to me

[grizzled grotto]

yes

they added that in a while ago

[ebon cargo]

yea they patched that in like week 2 or 3

[tropic quarry]

For exactly the reason you're discussing, I imagine lol

Like this isn't a melee problem, this is "my character is not designed to move freely" problem 😦

[pulsar hollow]

i havent dont the trials for quite a while
but now that im at t15 maps i think i should finally get my ascendancy

[grizzled grotto]

yes you should

[arctic crag]

yea and dont just jump in, pause and set up for it with whatever relics you have

[ebon cargo]

also running blink helps on flurry for sanctum trial

[grizzled grotto]

get honour res and max honor/life/defences depending on your build

[ebon cargo]

^ that helps more

[grizzled grotto]

you'll go in there with like 10k honour and be unkillable

[pulsar hollow]

time to go shopping for relics then

[wintry aspen]

what is mahu

[pulsar hollow]

which relics should i be looking for? which have the good stats?

[tropic quarry]

You're looking to get to 75% honour res.

Whatever relics you can fit in your current slots that do that.

[tropic quarry]

I did a couple of urns or seals and one amphora, iirc

[wintry aspen]

this one or focus better

[ebon cargo]

no clue, don't play shield classes

[wintry aspen]

it is spark mage

[ebon cargo]

I play monk.

lol

[bold mortar]

can you swap out runes on a corrupted item?

[ebon cargo]

yes

[bold mortar]

okay dope ty

[viral blaze]

can anyone tell me how much its max possible spirit u can have with morior armor on monk with lead me trough grace passive ty

[arctic valve]

Additional merchant choices also helps sekhemas a ton

[arctic crag]

I have 7k ES and even with my current "farming" setup I go in with 11k honor

[grizzled grotto]

mahu would be better cause you can get alot of mana from it due to the scaling of runes it gives

[keen valve]

just do the math?

[ebon cargo]

oh are you trying to finish ascending or just farming?

[arctic crag]

just farming

[ebon cargo]

yea, I wish I could give any advice on that, I don't farm the trials cause I hated doing them in the first place

[arctic crag]

And I am not even that good at this, I cant do no hit runs etc.

[ebon cargo]

lol

I think Tech gave you some great advice though, maxing out the res and bonus honor is prolly what you gotta do

[arctic crag]

I never got to endgame in any char as I was searching for a build that hit just right and I finally found one. I wanted currency and decided to farm sanctum, it was very decent.

[tropic quarry]

Big fan of the honour res then merchant options myself, just as an option.

[arctic crag]

I also made the mistake of choosing expedition on my first char

[tropic quarry]

Some of the boon choices can make a run breeze through.

[arctic crag]

Hare foot for example trivializes the entire run

[tropic quarry]

Especially for 3rd boss and Zarokh lol

[ebon cargo]

see I like farming the atlas more, find a nice area with like 3 or 4 towers and a bunch of maps in the middle of em

and just grind xv/xvi corrupted waystones

still need to get my magic find a bit higher, only on 77% at the moment

but that's the beauty of POE in general

can play the game you want to play inside the game you want to play

game gives you so much player agency, I don't know if anything else can compare

[wraith creek]

Guys I'm clearing maps for a couple of days now, I've just completed the T12 quest but I still have to get some decent loot. I'm sitting on 30ex and they are not even close to the amount I need to upgrade my gear. Am I doing something wrong or I just need to do t15 maps?

[arctic crag]

yes this was just a temporary stopgap as I wasnt there yet. The unique relic was like 3-4 div for example. The irony was that I never got the 4th ascendancy on my first char (Deadeye)

[arctic crag]

If you are able to clear higher, you definitely should

[hidden heath]

Go straight to t15

[tropic quarry]

To be completely honest, that should be enough for most builds at that point. You shouldn't be needing to get into more expensive (hundreds of ex, or div) upgrades for a bit.

[ebon cargo]

just focus on finishing the quests to fill your atlas, also create a 'dump' public tab for 2 exalts or w/e and dump anything in there that has more than 1 or 2 decent affixes on it, to start building up your currency. crafting currency > gold.

[tropic quarry]

Just keep going, keep upgrading your maps, do your towers and map around them

[ebon cargo]

yea, don't forget to enhance your maps with alchemy orbs or at least trans/aug them

[arctic crag]

And you could also find cheap upgrades, I spent my first div like 3-4 days ago

Before that I've only ever bought ~10ex things

What build are you playing btw?

[viral blaze]

where can i see whats best possible evasion and es for that armor?

[tropic quarry]

poe2db would be a great resource for this, pob/craft of exile are other options that could do some of the math for you.

Given the base, and the best mods including qual, could easily calculate the eva/es

[ebon cargo]

maxroll also has a crafting simulator that would probably work

if you know the afffixes well enough

[arctic crag]

interesting, I'll take a look

[tropic quarry]

Main reason I recommended the above, all of the affixes are listed on these 😅

Instead of just knowing them.

[ebon cargo]

well I mean it has dynamic search

just like the trade site

so you can do ~evasion and see them all

[manic bobcat]

Does item level affect the pool of possible items when using "Orb of Chance"?

[tropic quarry]

Of course, bit of extra work even if not much.

[ebon cargo]

No, item level doesn't matter

[manic bobcat]

Okay

[ebon cargo]

has to be the same base type though, IE sapphire amulet won't upgrade to astramentis

or w/e its called

[tropic quarry]

Would have to check, I believe there are already some uniques that share bases with different minimum ilvl

[manic bobcat]

It would be kind weird if it did, because
Dream Fragments has ilvl 71, while Polcirkeln has ilvl 82. This would have meant deliberately needing to avoid chancing ilvl >= 82 sapphire rings

[ebon cargo]

nah, orb of chance on a standard item has the same pool as it does on an expert level item

unless they changed it in poe2

don't think I've seen anywhere that indicates they did

[tropic quarry]

The alternative would be chancing* a sapphire ring and getting a 72 polcirkeln 😅

[manic bobcat]

I wonder if the ilvl indicates the unique tier though

[tropic quarry]

Both are weird to me

[grizzled grotto]

I've been hearing that you can't get uniques on advanced or expert items

[manic bobcat]

The context here is that I'm playing ssf and I'd rather just not bother trying to chance some super high tier uniques if they have like 1/2000 success rate

[ebon cargo]

hmm interesting, wonder if there is a dataset to support the theory or if people are just going off of confirmation bias

[summer robin]

@manic bobcat

Hello, anyone needed 4th ascendancy?

ign: RobinJudaz. Add me. Last boss ready, will only take 1 min to end

[ebon cargo]

super high tier uniques probably have a lower success rate than that.

[tropic quarry]

Looks good btw, I'm seeing polcirkeln as low as ilvl 60
So I expect it will be fine

[grizzled grotto]

that's probly why all uniques are really low level currently aside from the caster weapons

[manic bobcat]

Though I wouldn't mind that ring at all

[grizzled grotto]

and queen of the forest

[manic bobcat]

Chill into shatter would really help with my herald of ice. I'm lacking damage in breaches

[grizzled grotto]

which I think is drop only in a lv 40+ area

[ebon cargo]

if you weren't playing SSF I'd give you one of my extra ones Wnbeser lol

[tropic quarry]

Was worried as this orb of chance is new, and I know we had that split in poe between chance/ancient on whether ilvl mattered or not.

Good to check though

[grizzled grotto]

some are going herald of ice + herald of lightning til they get polcirkeln

[manic bobcat]

Haha, I prefer the journey of transmuting 10k for next upgrade instead ;)

[viral blaze]

any idea if anything from passive tree affects armor for more spirit?

[grizzled grotto]

no, only goes off the base stats

[tropic quarry]

Are you trying to get spirit bonus per armor, or asking if the armor increases from passive give you more spirit from the armor->spirit conversion?

[viral blaze]

trying to get bonus spirit on chest piece from tree passive for monk

[tropic quarry]

Then no, goes off stats of the item.

[manic bobcat]

And this thing is my current bow:

[ebon cargo]

Lead Me Through Grace

[tropic quarry]

Passive bonuses are given to you later rather than modifying the base stats of the item.

[ebon cargo]

the ascendency notable

[grizzled grotto]

pretty good for ssf

[manic bobcat]

Be bit careful with poe2db though. It has some bizarre data mined stuff in there, some of which are unavailable in real game. Most of the alternative notables in skill tree are poe1 notables IIRC

That are unlockable by non-existing time-lost-jewels

[manic bobcat]

It's fine. The base type is annoying though. Atleast it's very chaosable/vaalable if I find another bow near in power level

[prime flame]

is it worth it to overcap chaos res?

[tropic quarry]

You know, good question.

[manic bobcat]

Why would it be? Is there some unique that affects it or are you afraid of monster penetration? Isn't the monster pen only for Elemental Damage?

I mean the map mod

[tropic quarry]

I don't know of any max chaos res reduction in the same way we have elemental reduction

I know monsters also can apply curses, but I've only seen elemental exposures and enfeeble iirc

So no despair to worry about

[manic bobcat]

There's a waystone suffix that gives enemies pen:

But that's for non-chaos

[tropic quarry]

Right, that's what I'm getting at.

Don't know of any way monsters will dig into chaos res.

[ebon cargo]

what about the - to maximum resists? is that one also elemental? can't remember

oh nope, that one is all resists

[grizzled grotto]

ele weakness is ele yea

[manic bobcat]

There's expedition mod that gives monsters chaos pen that definitely exists, but I can't find anything else

[grizzled grotto]

there's nothing that reduces chaos res I don't think

[ebon cargo]

yea, I know that one, there is also

[tropic quarry]

Ah, expedition. That would be about it.

[grizzled grotto]

pen is a bit different, overcapping won't help with that

[ebon cargo]

yea overcapping also doesn't help w/ the one I showed

cause

[tropic quarry]

Good point. Exposure->cap->pen

[ebon cargo]

well

[prime flame]

thanks

[tropic quarry]

Interesting that mod isn't listed among waystone modifiers though, I know I've definitely seen it.

Wonder what the +drop chance is associated with that one.

I assume that's a suffix.

[viral blaze]

damn looks like mine isnt tht high of an item lvl which decreased in basic stats

spirit per socket prob doesnt work as well with lead me trough grace...

wait nvm idk wht im saying anymore

[ebon cargo]

I've said the same thing for ~2.5k hours in POE1

you get used to it

[grizzled grotto]

equipment bonuses to spirit don't count with lead me through grace, so no the spirit per socket wouldn't help

[tropic quarry]

Actually, never mind. Was able to do the math.

-x% maximum player res gives +125% drop chance.

So about what you expect for the heavier suffixes

[ebon cargo]

yea, I generally avoid that one though, force of habit

[tropic quarry]

That's the highest individual mod you can get afaik, tied with the combo movement/attack/cast speed.

[viral blaze]

lmfao

need 30 more spirits fk

[ebon cargo]

yea combo movement/attack/cast speed is fine, they rarely live long enough to do any of that unless I pair it with the increased impairment resist thing

[tropic quarry]

Just good to know for people trying to max drop chance before going into citadel lol

[viral blaze]

would need like 210 total

[willow ruin]

for citadel you want waystone drop chance high

like around 600

[ebon cargo]

man I bet my 600+% drop chance 15/16s are worth more than I thought they were lol

been holding on to them

[median vector]

is there a way to default portal to my hideout?

[viral blaze]

can u get more than 3 frags?

[willow ruin]

i've heard of 4 but only seen 3 myself

[tropic quarry]

Highest you would be able to get pre-corruption then would be

• max player res reduced (125)
• movement/attack/cast speed (125)
• increased monster damage (125)
  = 375% pre-corruption

Big number, but one heck of a waystone lol

[viral blaze]

u get 3 most of the time with 600+?

[tropic quarry]

You could drop just 5 and swap one of those out for elemental res pen or reduced flask charges (120)

[manic bobcat]

Umm why?

[vague pike]

Extra fragments

[manic bobcat]

What do you gain inside citadel? I'm very near one now

[vague pike]

They drop based on waystone drop chance

[manic bobcat]

Does this apply for all fragments like breach too?

[willow ruin]

i've ran it once and got 3 lol

[manic bobcat]

Because if so, I've been overvaluing 0 suffix maps like crazy

[vague pike]

Naah full suffix maps are only really good for citadels

Otherwise you want high Quant/Rarity/mobs etc

[tropic quarry]

Or running dry on waystones lol

Since all your waystone drop chance is in your suffixes.

[viral blaze]

ah i see xD

[ebon cargo]

yea, 'alch and go' is called that for a reason 😄

[manic bobcat]

Well yeah, but there's the 1/8 vaal outcome that removes all suffixes. I've been overvaluing those

[vague pike]

With correct atlas you wont run out of them

[vague valve]

would there be any benefit to using a vaal orb on my spark? its +20% quality with 4 skill gem slots and lvl 16 (21 with wand) so idk if there is a real benefit to slapping a vaal on it

[vague pike]

I have a quad stash tab full of T15s

[viral blaze]

inflation kinda crazy

[tropic quarry]

As it turns out, players do not have a "correct atlas" for the entirety of their journey.

[viral blaze]

selling xD?

[ebon cargo]

can't wait for them to release the damn map tab

[tropic quarry]

We should offer advice for all levels, not just max atlas lol

[vague pike]

Getting to the waystone sustain is pretty easy

they are close to the centre

[manic bobcat]

Because I need breach fragments badly to increase my catalyst drop rates (by making breaches better)

[viral blaze]

t16 feels impossible to sustain too D:

using only for t18 and im at like 1 now 😦

[vague pike]

A T15 map onto an Irradiated note/corrupted node is also T16

[ebon cargo]

does irradiated/corrupted stack to give +2 levels to the mobs?

never paid close enough attention to it

lol

[viral blaze]

i mean t16 + this 2

soo t18

[tropic quarry]

"Pretty easy" as in "After you've already done in the area of 30-50 maps" depending on what you consider enough waystone sustain for people to get started 😉

[manic bobcat]

sustaining t16's means you need on average 8 t15 map drops per map

[tropic quarry]

Unless you think every player gets enough sustain off crossroads alone.

[viral blaze]

yeh no way

[manic bobcat]

Then you must substract unrunable maps

[vague pike]

All maps are runnable :< Skill issue ❤️

[viral blaze]

mind ss ur atlas btw?

[vague pike]

*hides

[viral blaze]

chopper vibes fr

[manic bobcat]

I guess so now with nonsense like reflect gone

[ebon cargo]

omfg

I forgot about reflect

[tropic quarry]

Meh, I won't bother with -75% curse reduction personally.

But yeah, just about anything else lol

[ebon cargo]

you just gave my tshot self ptsd