2┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[spare ruin]

so stash tab from poe 1 carryover

[ember mica]

yeah, as long as they have a place in poe 2. Like if you have a stash tab for a mechanic that isn't in poe 2, it won't transfer, but everything else will

[noble spade]

For me i just dont like going to a player hub and seeing everyone with some insane glowing store armor

having people with that on minute one is weird

but its f2p so..

[spare ruin]

is there any classes in poe 2 that have the same vibe as magic swordsman

[ember mica]

Taking a step back, every class in poe can use every skill, every weapon, and ever armour in the game. So ultimately it would come down to what you want to build yourself.
That said though, swords and sword-related skills aren't in poe 2 yet, and will be coming most likely with the Duelist class. We've only seen a literal split second of duelist in poe 2, and in that clip he was using a fiery sword attack. So I'd say that, down the line, you'll be be able to do that.

https://youtu.be/Go4ykizk_Uo?si=_CtgfMLBpj0FYf4z&t=30

Here's that duelist clip I was mentioning.

[spare ruin]

oh they look cool

[tacit knot]

Whats temporal rict

[hearty walrus]

temporal rift let's you rewind time to the state your character was in like 10 seconds ago

[tacit knot]

Could i stack bleeding damage by just going after physical damave in the tree?

Also i read somewhere there may be a way to make bleeding do the same damage always as it would do when tbe enemies running

I get it serenity its scaled from ur hit but yea

%

[hearty walrus]

are you asking about poe1 or 2?

[tacit knot]

How does temporal rift look? Juwt instant 4s back same location?

This is about loe 2

2

[hearty walrus]

it resets your character to how it was few seconds ago

including location

[hearty walrus]

in poe1, there's a thing called aggravated bleeds

[tacit knot]

Sorry for questions serenity. Do you think itll be hard to get armour in the north end of the tree in poe 2?

Like do they rely on other defencez?

Becauee in poe 1 you could just armour up

Aura up Sorry

Etc

[vivid totem]

are the league mechanics also available if you create a private league?

[hearty walrus]

yes afaik

[hearty walrus]

idk how defenses will be balanced in poe2

[tacit knot]

Is this low to attach bleeding to? 28% of base damave

[hearty walrus]

probably

[lofty wren]

the initial hit that inflicts bleeding will have an impact on the damage of your bleeds, so scaling "physical damage" isn't wrong, but ultimately you'll also want some source of "increased damage over time", or "increased physical damage over time"

[exotic pine]

can we send info abt act 1 or nah

[hearty walrus]

what kind of info

[exotic pine]

like the fextralife act 1 walkthrough

or is that considered spoilers

[hearty walrus]

that'd be spoilers

and, afaik, guides are still under nda

[exotic pine]

well they are available so im not gonna hold back

but since its spoilers im not sending

[hearty walrus]

i'm not seeing any walkthrough. all i'm seeing is the fextralife wiki vandalized lol

[exotic pine]

all u have to do is go on revisions

and find one before it got rekt

i have the act 1 walkthrough i think ascendencies skills one

and im checking the other ones

[ashen garnet]

Apparently Fextralife posted walkthrough of act 1 and 2 with all bosses names and all their moves explained and even more stuff on their wiki + some pinnacle content names and stuff but now it got vandalised

[exotic pine]

i dont think they have act 2

i only have act 1

[hearty walrus]

well, don't post anything here

[exotic pine]

yeah dw

[ashen garnet]

No idea, just reading Twitter about the stuff as I want to go into PoE2 fresh and make my own build

[exotic pine]

yeah its literally the WHOLE act 1

[hearty walrus]

they were given a review copy which is why they have info for their wiki. but i heard they're not supposed to put out guides until the 6th

[exotic pine]

yeah miscommunication stuff but people be overreacting lol

ive seen people act as if they are dying irl

[hearty walrus]

tbf, fextralife already has bad rep

[exotic pine]

truuee ive seen people talk abt it but uk if GGG didnt say themselves that it was their fault i would find the reactions a lil bit more understandable

but if the mistake is in GGG the reaction is crazy lol

[hearty walrus]

people are also starved for poe2 content

[exotic pine]

i am too we all hyped but like the reaction are sooo weird

its a video game at the end of the day

[hearty walrus]

that people are excited and passionate for

[exotic pine]

yeah i am the same but when all is done its a video game

[modest tree]

just looked at PoE 2's requirements, hope it'll run fine in end game maps 😭

[hearty walrus]

wrong channel

#1┃new-player-in-campaign-help

[mellow echo]

sorry

[ember mica]

I haven't really seen much of the reaction outside of a couple of people here talk about it. But I think outside of viewbotting drama, I think the core issue is that fextra is notorious for making a ton of blank wikis the second a game is announced so they get early SEO, then try to keep it afloat by filling pages with bunk info and pumping out quarter-baked "builds" to keep pages updated.

In and of itself not the worst thing, but if a ton of new players or people who are considering buying the game think that this is the main source of info, they're likely gonna get a ton of bad stuff. It was an issue for a long time in the souls and elden ring build maker spaces

[hearty walrus]

also something about embedding that made people hate them more

[exotic pine]

ive seen poe twitter community is in SHAMBLES

😹

but i do understand the fextralife hate

[ember mica]

eh people are passionate, i dont blame em

[exotic pine]

i got jebaited by their elden ring info too

[cedar skiff]

modern gamers
cant play without guides

[exotic pine]

[whole silo]

[stark lynx]

Essentially viewbotting.

[hearty walrus]

yeah, just saw lily explain it

[stark lynx]

They've also broken NDAs on numerous occasions across plethora of games

but they just keep getting away with it

[midnight vessel]

Hey guys, new to this series, obviously poe2 isnt out yet but how does the the series play in 4 player co-op? Do enemies and difficulty scale or will it be braindead easy?

[wispy knoll]

Anyone want to play poe 2 with me

[hearty walrus]

#2┃looking-for-group

[hearty walrus]

devs said the game is balanced with solo and party play so neither has an advantage

[onyx pasture]

i'd assume it scales similarly to the way PoE1 handles it, which is described here https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Partying

tldr: yes, it scales

[hearty walrus]

it is gonna scale a bit differently

[onyx pasture]

obviously not exactly the same. but I would assume the same things will scale, just with different values

[tropic elk]

Ok so guys, having not played Poe before do you think for a player like me, Poe 2 will have a good onboarding experience and will it be playable and complete enough to be worth it on early access

[hearty walrus]

poe2 will be a lot more accessible for new players

complete enough is up to you. to start, we'll only have half the classes and 33% of the subclasses

and half the campaign

we will have the end game tho

but jonathan said the game is like 80% there

[tropic elk]

Will there be just a continuous season during the early access?

[hearty walrus]

i personally don't know. they might've said something about that

[tropic elk]

Most people say the minute to minute gameplay alone should be worth it. Guess I’ll see how it goes the first few days/weeks. always liked the idea of playing Poe but watching and reading guides made me feel like I would have decision paralysis or would just be overwhelmed with all the systems, external tools etc.

[hearty walrus]

i'd suggest just going in blind

[tacit knot]

Very interesting. No more stun or freeze treshhold.

Anyone have any idea how this build up will work?

I didnt likw freeze but now maybe

For how long will bosses be immune after freeze?

(i am going through your changes link)

[hearty walrus]

all enemies have a stun metre (you can see it under their health bar) that builds up

i think freeze works the same way

[tacit knot]

Yea ir says bosses , not mobs have a n immunity period

After

Very cool chamge though.

Seeing the boss turn to a block of ice will be funny

I dont know their capacity to buildup though. But i was kinda shocked seeing a boss get stunned by someone last week in poe 2. Cant recall that from poe 1 but the animation may have changed aswell

[hearty walrus]

stunning bosses isn't much of a thing in 1

[tacit knot]

Ah then i was right about that one

I dont think this is updated though. Logging out or disconnecting gives you the option to return as it was left in or return to town when reconnecting.

Pretty sure heard jonathan say, logging oit returns yoj where you are

Enemy skills no longer have a distinction between attacks and spells. To ensure visual clarity, players won't have to guess what is a spell and what is an attack. As a result, all monster skills are affected by evasion and accuracy, and spell suppression no longer exists.

Whar does this mean for DOT? Sorry still dont really understand

If the hit misses you cant apply DOT, ground effect can't be evaded. Is that right?

[hearty walrus]

in poe 1, damage can be dealt as and attack, spell, dot, or secondary

in 2, they're combining the first 2 (no idea about secondary)

[tacit knot]

Okay. Am i right in what I said above?:

[hearty walrus]

ground effects can't be evaded or blocked

[tacit knot]

Oh and does it only count for monsters or both ways

[hearty walrus]

only for monsters. players still have spells and attacks

[tacit knot]

So you have no idea yet how to survive secondary

I suppose secondary is like poison, bleeding or maybe not even bleeding?

[hearty walrus]

secondary still deals one of the damage types

bleeding and poison are dots

i don't think enemies have secondary damage source

just players

[tacit knot]

Ah yea poison= chaos res bleeding = armour

Right?

Defenses

[hearty walrus]

armour only affects physical hits

[tacit knot]

And chaos res doesnt affect poison?

[hearty walrus]

it does

poison deals chaos damage

[tacit knot]

How to handle a strong bleed then

[hearty walrus]

in poe1, bleed immunity on flask mostly

in 2, i think there's charms for bleed

[tacit knot]

Yes ans try not to move right?

Or something

Sorry writing it all down trying to learn

[hearty walrus]

that's a bad way to deal with bleed. better to just get rid of it with a flask

it is affected by physical damage reduction

[tacit knot]

Yes the piety lesson :p

And Ignite is just fire res

[ember mica]

in poe 2, you can't be bled unless you take damage directly to your life. So if you have ES, you won't be bled

[hearty walrus]

oh yeah, and bleed bypasses es

[ember mica]

in reference to CI, viper said CI is a defacto bleed immune since you're basically expected to have a ton of ES

[plucky chasm]

Hey guys
Does anyone know why I can't continue?
This is the second time I try labyrinth and I get stuck

I did the switch puzzle and the secret room

not sure if there's anything more I need to do

[grizzled isle]

I'll point out that you should be asking this in #1┃new-player-in-campaign-help , not poe2, but have you found and fought Izaro at all yet?

[plucky chasm]

Oh shit I'm in poe2 sorry mb i thought I was in poe1

[grizzled isle]

No stress. This channel's empty til the end of the week anyway 🙂

[fast kraken]

Do you guys think a 3060 TI will be good enough to run POE2 on high settings at 144 fps

[fresh reef]

Some dev said their 2080 super was fine running the game at home, dunno what FPS values but

[flat mist]

on 1080p, probably close to that yeah

[fast kraken]

Any idea how important the CPU is

[flat mist]

suna (ggg dev) mentioned the game is less cpu intensive than poe1, so that's a good sign

[rose galleon]

I'm curious, did any of the interviews or dev talk confirm if you could do ascendencies as a party, and all ascend at the same time?

[worthy isle]

doubt it lol

[heady flax]

i was wondering if someone might be able to explain to me how the interaction with minions works regarding support gems and the damage they do, for instance would something like this be damage that the minion is causing (gets more damage from minion passives) or my own character and the passives i have

Like would this actually even interact with the above

If it is based on the players passives im guessing it could have its crit increased

[ember mica]

I believe controlled destruction wouldn't work with minion instability, as their explosion isn't a spell

minion instability would only deal more damage with life to minions

[heady flax]

ok interesting, would it technically be somthing the minion is doing?

i guess its too early to say

really just confused about if passives apply

[ember mica]

a common misconception with minions is that they're related to spells. But you should picture minions almost like a 3rd type of damage besides attacks and spells

[heady flax]

thats the strange overlap though, like if a minion is its own entity, and this support causes the minion to do damage,would minion damage passives add to it

[flat mist]

i think i remember it being mentioned you can ascend together, but idk if it was clarified what happens if someone dies

i think everyone who lives gets to ascend

[ember mica]

instability will only do more damage the more life a minion has, as instability is itself a support. So you can't really support a support gem, ya know?

[heady flax]

i guess but like if i had a spell that caused me to do an aoe spell and i added like a elemental modifer and i had a elemental damage modifer passive surely that would increase its damage

[ember mica]

yeah any spells that you yourself cast can be supported with controlled destruction

but for minion stuff, you generally need minion-focused supports for them

[heady flax]

yeah like say i took a 10 percent minion damage increase

passive

on the passive tree

technically that should increase any minion damage

[ember mica]

Right yeah. stuff that effects minions needs to directly say that it either says minions, or in some cases "allies near you"

[heady flax]

so in your eyes would somthing like minion instablility increase the damage caused by 10 percent ?

if i had that minion damage passive

[ember mica]

No

[heady flax]

because its specifically a value of its life

[ember mica]

So minion instability is a support in itself that does specifically what it says

[ember mica]

correct yeah

but while the minion is alive, it the passive will affect it

[heady flax]

i guess a secondary question would be, would that damage cause life leech,

probably not hey because its the minion

minions are confusing

[ember mica]

I'm not 100% sure, but I would very heavily lean on no in most scenarios, unless there is something that specifically says life leech from minions to you

Yeah they are haha

[heady flax]

copy that, ill plan for them being entirely seperate

cheers for the help

[fast kraken]

I wonder how good Acolyte Monk will be with the mana leech tank build, lowkey seems bait seeing how everything is set up so perfect...

[ember mica]

Just easiest to remember that minions are not you, you can almost think of them as NPC players around you. So like if I was in a map with you and I did damage while you had leech, you wouldn't get the life

[heady flax]

yeah cool that does make things a little easier thinking of it like that

[rose galleon]

thanks for the follow up - hope so, got people coming over for the launch - hoping we can do this together 😄

[ember mica]

Yeah you're basically making little npcs around you, and the supports that are attached to each minion determine their power. After that, they're just their own little guys

[maiden ledge]

What time and zone is POE2 gonna be released Friday?

[lament stone]

faq has the exact time for your timezone

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3587981

[heady flax]

Has anyone seen how much health zombie minions have or any minions for that matter?

[whole silo]

🤷‍♀️

[floral yoke]

https://www.pathofexile.com/

[ember mica]

it all scales with gem level, passives, and gear

there's no like, universal number

[heady flax]

Oh fantastic that's great to know

[fast kraken]

Does anyone know how GPU intensive POE2 will be? I know it'll def be heavy on the CPU but curious regarding if I need a good GPU too

[ember mica]

Here are minimum and recommended specs

Although might still get choppy on high intensity stuff in endgame with recommended. But we don't really know for now

[fast kraken]

Yeah cause I remember a dev saying it was running ok on their home setup that uses a 2080 super. I'm mainly just wondering if it is worth for me to upgrade from a RTX 3060ti to a AMD 7800xt for POE2 if I'm going to be playing in 1080p/1440p. I want to be able to play in high graphics with 144 fps+ but don't really have anything else to go off of. I already bought a AMD 7 5700x for a cyber monday deal so I wanted to pair a good GPU with it but I'm not sure if its worth upgrading my GPU as well

[ember mica]

I mentioned it to someone else. But I wouldn't go spending a bunch of money for a theoretical potential upgrade for a single game. The only time I would upgrade parts is if it's like, actually really needed. If you're playing games or rendering stuff and it's noticeably choppy or slow, then consider it. But at the very least I would say wait and see if it performs well enough for what you have

poe 2, while it looks incredible imo, isn't some like mega release that tests the limit of hardware. It should run fine with what you have

If you're already in the market for something new and have a ton of cash to blow, then sure go for it. But I wouldn't rush it for poe

[little moth]

oh... poe 2 is just a single game for you?! Blasphemy

jk ofc

[wild hedge]

I've checked the tree (not all of it is out yet) and i'm curious why half of the melee nodes are about stun...

Stun is confusing to me

Stun treshhold. If i have 100%, does that mean that i will stun enemies with a 100% chance?

[hearty walrus]

stun in poe 2 is something that builds up

stun threshold is how long it takes you to get stunned

[ripe cape]

Add x elemental dmg support gems won't change Spell/attack tags right?
like adding Fire dmg to Unearth won't turn it into a fire spell, right?

[hearty walrus]

right

[ripe cape]

damn, there goes the dream of unearth into raging spirits 😄

[heady flax]

does anyone know how this works, i saw a similar skill that allowed you to actually socket the abilitys into the skill as if they were supports reckon this is the same ?

[hearty walrus]

that should be a meta skill, yeah

[heady flax]

awesome

Just so im not being an idiot every class can use 9 skills?

[hearty walrus]

did they say the skill limit?

[hardy vigil]

9 skill gems. You can additionally use skills from gear and ascendancies.

[heady flax]

awesome good stuff

[hearty walrus]

gemling legionnaire also can get 3 extra

[tacit knot]

Evasion cannot dodge area of effect/unlockable skills, unless the Acrobatics keystone is allocated.

What are "unlockable skills"

[grizzled isle]

pretty sure that's supposed to be "unblockable"

as in cannot be blocked

[austere quarry]

Does anyone know by any chance know what skill this was or if it was in PoE 1? Someone said a skill gem but is there no faint idea of what it's called? I time stamped it here, it's that red slam. he did it a few times https://youtu.be/ZpIbaTXJD4g?t=4704

[vivid scaffold]

i believe thats fist of war support on earthquake

[austere quarry]

ty! someone earlier said it was in PoE 1, i hope it comes to 2 it just looked visually really cool. Like some phantom slamming for u

[tacit knot]

Are wands still a thing? As sorcsress specifies "staves"

[hardy vigil]

They are. Where does it specify that?

[ripe cape]

weapons are usable by every archetype

[gleaming sun]

https://i.imgur.com/BwJNwZK.png shoutout to this random legend gifting me heaps of currency to get me started as a newb

hope he sees this somehow

[hearty walrus]

he might not even be in this discord

this is also the poe2 channel

[gleaming sun]

haha oops

i hope he plays poe 2

[spare ruin]

how many flasks are there

[hearty walrus]

2

life and mana

[spare ruin]

Oh okay thanks

[hearty walrus]

charms have replaced utility flasks

[spare ruin]

Is charms the same as talisman as in elden ring

or its diff

[grizzled isle]

more like automated flasks

they trigger in response to certain conditions, and can have extra effects crafted on

[hearty walrus]

they gain charges like flasks

like a freeze immune charm that activates when you get frozen

[spare ruin]

Oh

Lol there so much things to learn

[forest pier]

I have extra keys from the big supporter pack, when I give them away does that player also need to get a Steam key from somewhere? Or will that key work for the steam client download and EA access?

[grizzled isle]

once a person has an EA key, their account can access a steam and/or epic key from their profile on the website

[forest pier]

Where does that person enter in that key I gave them to access the steam / epic key?

[hearty walrus]

https://www.pathofexile.com/shop/redeem-key

[forest pier]

Perfect, thank you!

[spare ruin]

if i bought the EA on steam can i still play using the standalone client?

[lament stone]

you should be able to

[white bluff]

I have a few question:

• 1: How many skills can I bind in game at the same time? I saw 5 + right click + middle mouse.
• 2: If you play WASD, do you get left click as a bonus skill bind?
• 3: Do ascendancy skills needs to be in the 9 skills gems slots to be used?
• 4: For example, can I have 9 skills slots with support gems on them, plus temporal rift/time freeze (binded to two keys), but with no support gem on them and still use all of it?

[lost kayak]

You get left click as well if you're using wasd. Additionally you can also get more skills by "shift+e" , "shift+q" etc.

Yes, left click should be a skill with wasd

Yes probably

Yes? Don't see why not

[visual hound]

Hi, about attributes. What do INT STR DEX scale ? I only found poe1 stuff

[ripe cape]

Ascendencies should not count against the 9 gem Skills

because you could fill the gem slots before ascending

[white bluff]

So you mean, ascendencies skill get their own gem skill slot?
Or They're still usable outside of the 9 skills gem slot, but can be slotted in for support gems?

[ripe cape]

they are direct skills. I doubt you will be able to support them

[hearty walrus]

you can support ascendancy skills

[ripe cape]

but at least I can't confirm that

Oh

is that shown somewhere?

[white bluff]

you can but you don't need to. Is that the nuance?

[hearty walrus]

"Skills do not have to come from a skill gem in order to have support gems socketed. Default Attack and skills granted by items or Ascendancy passives can be socketed with support gems. "

[white bluff]

Where can I see that information?

[hearty walrus]

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Path_of_Exile_2

[white bluff]

but they say "ascendancy passives" "not Ascendancy skills"?

[hearty walrus]

skills granted by ascendancy passives

[white bluff]

Hmmm! Thank you!

[final geyser]

Last time it was answered (to my knowledge), these were the stats:

[spare ruin]

i just got the 3rd party key code for steam at poe site

do i enter the code at steam activation product

[dapper oriole]

yes

[spare ruin]

so i just activate it what did it even do?

just to clear up i bought the EA from steam

[fathom herald]

EA access is unlock from the website only cus its tied to your account

the extra key they give you for steam or epic is to unlock the client to be able to login

standalone dont need that but if you playing on those 2 stores you do need them

[spare ruin]

oh ok thanks

is the standalone client available to be dowload now

[fathom herald]

nah

maybe couple of hours before launch for preloading

that's how they usually do it for poe1 leagues idk for poe2

[spare ruin]

perfect thanks

[tacit knot]

Are there any "throwable" melee weapons?

Aside from javelin

Spear i meam

[fathom herald]

its base on skills

not weapons

so if there is a skill that throw your weapons then it'll work on all weapons that fits its tags

[tacit knot]

Oh. Is there like a tag that you can easily find em all?

[fathom herald]

idk have to wait until the game is out first

and they will still add more skills into the game so

[lament stone]

on ea launch i doubt there will be any melee throwing skills

the only melee weapons will be quarterstaff and maces

i guess you can throw a hammer

[tacit knot]

Is it projectile / melee

[hearty walrus]

hammer of the gods?

[hardy vigil]

it drops from above

[ember mica]

Worth mentioning that the marauder, a class that isn't out yet but is coming, is supposed to be focused a bit around throwing axes. Whether that's his entire class identity is yet to be seen

[tacit knot]

https://poedb.tw/us/Skill_Gems?query=Projectile+melee

Are these all of them in poe 1?

Yea i was looking for throwing ....

[ember mica]

marauder throwing axes is a new thing to poe 2. I would expect he's likely going to get a ton of brand new skills

[ripe cape]

yay for viking

[tacit knot]

What tags should i search for cimex

Projectile, melee

When the time is there?

[ember mica]

He doesn't have any skills out yet. All we know about marauder and axe throwing is that it was mentioned at exilecon once, and there's a 1 second clip of it haha

[lament stone]

melee is for gems that hit their target with a melee hit, so not throwing it

[hardy vigil]

Ice Spear and Storm Spear are probably the only weapon throwing skills shown so far. Obviously tied to a weapon that isn't in for EA launch. Your searches are just going to find other melee skills that shoot projectiles.

[tacit knot]

Okay so how do i seaech for it

Oh okay!

[lament stone]

projectile, attack, -bow, -melee

then just look at the green gems

[ember mica]

https://youtu.be/Go4ykizk_Uo?si=z7t7mz0f_3Rys77f&t=35

Here's the clip of the marauder if you want to see it. And it was mentioned in, I think, the item design talk at exilecon it was hrishi who was like "oh, and axes? you can throw them now" lol

[tacit knot]

Thanks rhat was good

U too calulrme

Yea that would be cool. Also wanted javazon but also not yet

Impatience. Haha. Nah joking. Would be coll though

[ember mica]

Yeah something tells me we're all gonna have our hands full for the first month or two of the game anyway haha. sooooo much to explore

[analog meadow]

guys i am new to poe ,is minion build viable all the way to endgame only worry is boss aoe wiping out minions ,haha 🙂

any suggestions

can i mix match and play "not minion" builds for bossing ?

[hard spruce]

Minions ressurrect automatically now so if they die they will get summoned again after a short cooldown

[analog meadow]

hmmm i do know that

so one imp question would be

lets say i wanna go blood witch

do i still get alternative builds thats not minions ?

that are better and more viable given the content i do

[ripe cape]

as you have weapon swap with separate skill sets, you can make one Minion and one Chaos for example

but minions should be viable all game

[hearty walrus]

we don't know the viability of any build, but i'm sure pure minions will be viable

[analog meadow]

coool

i am i only concern about viability

i am not gonna be pity on other aspects as we can try so many builds but minions is true fanatasy i have been waiting for long time

so far i have seen the ability for you direct minions and group them up where u want is so good

[hearty walrus]

also open chests and doors

[tacit knot]

Why are rhere no traps yet?

[analog meadow]

really haha

thats so cool

[ripe cape]

shadow not in yet

[analog meadow]

its all about living the fanstasy man

i was sold when i saw you can reanimate minions of yourd choice at end game

thats so cool i dont care if its not great and all ,thats real fun 😇

[tacit knot]

Is there a way to lay out 1 corpse?

For detonate dead for example

[ripe cape]

not yet

[analog meadow]

is the denote corpse a thing in poe too??

[tacit knot]

Yep and it was very op last poe

[ripe cape]

detonate corpse yes, but not Desecrate

[tacit knot]

And you as a minion build especially cool 🙂

[vocal kraken]

hello

[ripe cape]

yo

[analog meadow]

cant wait haha

[hearty walrus]

pretty sure it won't be as broken as it used to be in 1. might not even function the same way

[analog meadow]

blood mage with giga million hp and horadrim of minions to serve - FANTASY TO FULLEST

in poe 1 is it really that broken as ppl say

[hearty walrus]

used to be

[analog meadow]

i was referring to my frd who play poe about d4 builds

he said i had to try in poe minion builds

[tacit knot]

Could you actually freeze opponents with a chaos build using chaotic freeze? Dont you need like a high % od cold damage

[vocal kraken]

new player diving face first into the game. thinking of going monk for first play through. anything tips to maximize fun time? 👀

[hearty walrus]

can't say i know of any since game isn't out yet

[ripe cape]

take it slow, explore, read your skills and passive 😄

[hardy vigil]

Monks had highest satisfaction ratings in some test survey. But also most deaths. Pay attention to defenses while you hit with stick.

[vocal kraken]

might have to order extra vyvanse

[vocal kraken]

ooohh there's a test survey?

[hardy vigil]

Not public. Just something they mentioned in an interview.

[vocal kraken]

aaaaah that's cool to know.

I shall keep that in mind. thank you

[tacit knot]

Guys what is "bombard"

Why doesnt is say x damage or something

[ripe cape]

not fully detailed.

will be there on launch

[tacit knot]

Thanks

[lofty wren]

It's a verb that references the dropping of bombs onto a certain point

Bombarding something =

[hard spruce]

a Bombard is a large caliber Old school Mortar

[hearty walrus]

it's an enemy in warframe

[hardy vigil]

I have discovered that poe1 patch notes for version 2.0.2 mention that the Torchoak Grove "will target an area and his minions will bombard that area." Coincidence? I don't think so!

hints from 2015

[tacit knot]

Hhahaa all I say is I love that they keep updating poe 1 aswell 🙂

Anyone has any idea what this will probably look like?

[ember mica]

It's in a bunch of sorc gameplay. Looks pretty much as described haha

the "explosion" looks to send out little fire bolts surrounding the orb as well

[white bluff]

Can you put "temporal chains" + "freezing mark" in gem socket of "hand of Chaluya"?

[ember mica]

Yup. Chayula is a "meta" gem, which means that instead of only supports going in the support sockets, you can also put active abilities. In this case, curses and marks

[white bluff]

thank you!

Does that means you need this support gem on the skill that's going to freeze the enemy?
Or you can slot it in another skill. Whenever you freeze someone, you use this skill with this support gem, and it converts the freeze into brittle?

Also would this work with a cast on freeze build? 🤔
Or would it not activate cast on freeze, and just put brittle?

[half mist]

It would not activate cast on freeze

[white bluff]

👍

[tacit knot]

Am i seeing it right that ignite and poison work the same now?

Besides that poison max can be raised and can be stackable

Both 25% of hit damage

Do you guys think itd be unwise to try and make a poisoning sorceress? On that spot in the tree

[hardy vigil]

they don't work same at all wdym...

[left harness]

Im a new player going in blind... anything i should look out for in the sense that if i F it up ill brick my character type of things?

[sullen parcel]

Nah, feel free to explore and try new things. PoE2 will be a lot more forgiving then PoE1 was

[ripe cape]

take it slow, read your skills and passives.
there is not too much you can mess up.
only ascendancies

[sullen parcel]

Yes that is true, you cannot change ascendancies

[craggy gyro]

I think their will change this in the next weeks or months ^^

[left harness]

so you can only choose 1 ascendancy? and once you do there is no going back?

[hearty walrus]

you can't change your subclass

[ripe cape]

from the 2 available to the class you choose onle one can be choosen, yes. and currently can_'t be changed.
not sure if they will add that later

[tacit knot]

Does shock affect DOT damage you do?

If enemy is shocked

[ember mica]

But do note that you can change the passives within your ascendancy

[tacit knot]

Im kinda happy they didnt release all at once. Lol. This is already a lot

[craggy gyro]

More content as Diablo 4 with 5 addons can do .. xD

[spare ruin]

does cosmetic in poe 1 work in poe 2

[queen forge]

i can choose 2 classes right?

[ember mica]

Not sure what you mean exactly.

But you can only be one class per character

[queen forge]

like i can be a mage and warrior

like mix and match

is that a thing?

[ember mica]

In a very roundabout way, yes. Every character can use any skill, weapon, armour in the game. But you choose a class at the start. Classes determine your starting position on the passive tree and their ascendancy

[queen forge]

gotcha gotcha

[ember mica]

So you can choose the sorceress and still wield melee weapons. but you'd still be locked into choosing one of the (currently) two ascendancies available to the sorceress

[queen forge]

ahh i see ty

[analog meadow]

what are these gamemodes on poe2 i get whats hard core ? what is self found etc

what should i choose if i wanna involve in trade with others?

i am talking about poe1 i guess its gonna be same in poe2

[ember mica]

Solo self found is essentially a single player experience. You can still use the global chat, but you are locked from trading with other players

[analog meadow]

alright

whats the cons in that ??

dont we really wanna engage with other players in game

we can still do that in ssf ?

except you are trade locked ?

[ember mica]

No, no grouping up in SSF either

[analog meadow]

then i never wanna play that

on flipside do i get better fps and less lag from playing solo ??

[ember mica]

the "cons" are moreso an individual challenge. You don't get to trade for the items that you need, you have to know where to get them, and how to farm them yourself

It should be noted that even the vast majority of poe players play "solo". They just engage in player-to-player trades

[analog meadow]

yaaa

i just wanna have the option to trade and play with others

i might ask same question once we actually have poe2 earlyaccess kinda confused on poe1

[ember mica]

Right yeah then I would just play the current league, softcore, no checking SSF or ruthless (in poe 1)

[analog meadow]

leagues how they work ? is it completley new mech or map i had to explore ??

can i not take my old characters there ?

[ember mica]

Leagues are basically the seasonal content of the game. Every new league, everyone starts from a completely clean slate and starts from scratch. Leagues also have fun new mechanics to explore. Like in poe 1, the current league is Settlers of Kalguur, which has basically a whole city-builder mechanic

New leagues happen every 3-4 months, but settlers has been extended for a while due to all the poe 2 stuff happening

[analog meadow]

yaa thats cool, so whats the benefit of having lets say day 1 character vs league new character

to avoid confusion

dont we ever play one charcter and infintely farm for upgardes ??

[lost kayak]

With the league new character you get to experience the new league and new features added

[analog meadow]

i get it with league its a seasonal mech we explore new stuff that much is clear

let me put it this way the uber pinnacle bosses they take long time to beat right so does atlas

[lost kayak]

You won't "lose" it,
It will just go into a separate EA league

[lost kayak]

You can still continue playing your old character in standard league

[analog meadow]

is stash shared across characters ??

[ember mica]

Nah not really. People enjoy the clean slate, it's not like an MMO like wow where there is higher and higher tiers of content every new league with more and more powerful gear. Sure there is a general upward curve of power growth, but it's not like you need to go through years of content to get to the newer stuff. The longer a league goes on, the more stale and bloated the economy gets. People generally set goals they want to achieve in a league and can usually complete them before the league ends or they quit for the league. It's a pretty fast paced game once you get the hang of it

[lost kayak]

Of course

[analog meadow]

so the release itself is a new league ??

[stark lynx]

within same league, yes

[analog meadow]

i see

[lament stone]

fresh starts give new players an opportunity to get into the game easier

[analog meadow]

i am still not clear how the longevity features like housing,atlas and pinnacle bossing like long long term content makes sense with 3 months league

[tacit knot]

How is this a thing? Wasnt it 100% chance to ignite is guarantee?

[lament stone]

its a lot harder to catch up if you have to catch up to players who have a literal decade worth of currency saved up

[analog meadow]

just to make sure are stash and all the new goodies i find i leagu can be used by my other new charatcers ?

[ember mica]

It's kinda hard to put into words why everyone likes seasonal content vs standard, the permanent realm. I was skeptical of it myself when I first started playing, as I was coming from an MMO background. But it makes sense once you play it. Given time and experience, you can easily complete all the atlas and bossing stuff you want within a league

[lofty wren]

it takes your current chance to ignite, and slaps a 100% more modifier to it

[queen bay]

How does this league thing work? Is it like Diablo? When a league starts you restart, so to speak, with your characters and have to create new ones? Or can you continue with your usual character?

[ember mica]

And hideouts do stay between leagues

[lament stone]

yea, like diablo

your hideout gets saved so its the same design across any leagues you play

[ember mica]

Within a league, yes, your stash is shared between all characters. But if you're in a league, your softcore stash won't be shared with a hardcore stash

[analog meadow]

i am definietly all down to play leagues and resets, its better that way, i was just wondering what makes longterm features work well " ARE ITEMS AND GEAR IN YOUR STASH SHARED or no ??

sorry i am just confused a bit haha

😇

[ember mica]

What a lot of people do on a new league is start with a "league starter" which is basically a character who's damage can come online with no investment. They get to the endgame and do a bunch of content, and stack up a bunch of powerful gear and currencies. And then start a new character that can far exceed their league starter, but requires a bunch of expensive and powerful gear to come online

[stark lynx]

Progression speed, at least in poe1 for experienced players, is measured in days if not in hours

[lofty wren]

as for the "housing" part you mentionned, hideouts unlocked should carry over to your entire account like in PoE 1

[stark lynx]

not weeks

[lament stone]

items in standard stashes are not shared with items in league stashes

[analog meadow]

@ember mica oh oh now it makes sense haha

well put

so we basically have much better gear and powers to defeat old content

[stark lynx]

no, not really

[analog meadow]

in the famr of league to put it roughly

[ember mica]

The thing is, "old" content is still relevant content

[stark lynx]

same items, barring patch changes

[lofty wren]

all the characters you create in the same league share the same stash

[analog meadow]

okay now thats great

[lament stone]

essences are very old, but they are still a very strong way to craft gear when combined with a few other methods

[ember mica]

Nothing in poe is like, legacy stuff that people ignore. Stuff from 10 years ago is still relevant today.

[analog meadow]

i can farm for my warrior as mage then

[stark lynx]

for example yeah

[lofty wren]

so your standard stash is shared by all standard characters
and your league stash is shared by all your league characters

[analog meadow]

oh yeah

thats makes sense

[stark lynx]

Not uncommon for ppl to do 1-3 builds per patch and just call it a league and take a vacation from poe

[lofty wren]

yes, 100%

[stark lynx]

and have played like a month + some out of the 3month cycle

[analog meadow]

cool

now i am more clear than ever 🫡

one last question

[lofty wren]

I have this nasty habit of playing 20 builds a league
not being able to swap ascendancies in EA is gonna be painful >:|

[stark lynx]

Ofc PoE2 will be entirely new in all aspects, so this turnover rate is going to be slower.

[analog meadow]

can we see ppl in town and build if we can inspect them ?

[stark lynx]

I play like 1 build a league, lately I've gotten bored faster and faster.

[lofty wren]

I don't think you can inspect them, but you can definitely see their character

[analog meadow]

alright

i dont wanna bother you bunch

thanks you all for answering

[stark lynx]

thats what the help channels are for.

[analog meadow]

have a great day guys cant wait 😭

[ember mica]

What a lot of people do for poe 1 is check out poe.ninja, which aggregates a ton of characters over a certain level threshold, their gear, passives, etc. It's usually reserved for more experienced players, but it's kind of the easy way to "inspect" a bunch of different builds and get ideas

[lofty wren]

in poe1 there is the /whois command that basically gives you the character name's class, level and league, but nothing more than that, only useful to see what a guy in chat is playing, basically
idk if this command will carry over to the 2nd game

[analog meadow]

as long as i am playing as group its cool we are going for wombo combos baby

[lofty wren]

as Anti Cimex said, there are external websites using ggg API to export character builds onto public listing

[analog meadow]

infernal witch with poison cloud rogue my frd

or better 4 necro minion mages with all 4 stacking septre auras if its even viable

[lament stone]

youre going to ignite all their gas clouds so idk how well that might work in practice

how many poisons theyll actually apply

[lofty wren]

bomber combo

that's like taking merc and splitting into two roles

[analog meadow]

we will figure out on the go ,i really dont know much either but i was excited to hear there are some combo potential with diff classes

[ripe cape]

no you still see other players in town. just can't interact much

[lofty wren]

that's the best thing about this new release
everybody will be on their own to figure stuff out for the first couple weeks

[ember mica]

Yeah that's the way to go, especially as a new player, trying to overload on info before actually playing is tough enough as it is

[lofty wren]

we get to dive into the unkown, again

[spare ruin]

wait you got promoted?

[ember mica]

seems so haha

[spare ruin]

congrats

[analog meadow]

or contrary overimformation is my fuel actually it gets me going you probably know by know i am a sweat ,but for poe 2 i am just gonna stick to my slowcooked fantasy of building gazillion hp bloodmage with an army of loyal horadrim

i actually missed the train of poe1 this time i am in it for longterm baby 😇 🫡

[lofty wren]

I thought I wanted to play blood mage, but I'm waiting to see what the other nodes are
I didn't see any minion related stuff in that ascendancy from what they teased, so I'm on the fence

[analog meadow]

yaa

[oak iris]

Is there a group finder text channel ?

[analog meadow]

for infernal its better for minion route

i am guessing minions are their own thing

i hope we get ascendency on day

[lofty wren]

we'll see what the 3rd ascendancy is like after EA

[ember mica]

for poe 2 theres #2┃looking-for-group

[analog meadow]

if its ever necro i am never switching builds ever haha

[oak iris]

Omg nvm I see it now thanks

[ember mica]

I wouldn't expect a standard necromancer ascendancy like we have in poe 1. They said they wanted specifically to avoid there being a single class or ascendancy that is the "minion ascendancy"

[lofty wren]

I do expect BM to have some minion stuff, but they didn't tease it :/

witch is almost all about minions

[ripe cape]

Sceptres are about minions

as John mentioned Infernalist seems to be more minion focussed

[analog meadow]

i was wondering what clasee is going to be most popular ??

[lofty wren]

merc

[analog meadow]

among all the 6 we have

which class ppl play most ?

in poe 1 ?

[lofty wren]

there's a huge fangirl bus full of merc wannabes

[analog meadow]

haha makes sense

isnt it new one ?

[lofty wren]

it does look interesting

[inland sentinel]

you can go check out poe.ninja for that one

[lofty wren]

for poe1, yeah 👆

[analog meadow]

ohh lemmme take a look

[lofty wren]

it varies from league to league

depends on which content creator hypes which build

[inland sentinel]

yeah there's no single best or popular class of all time

each patch introduces new skills/builds/variety

so some things become meta for a bit, then some disappear into obscurity

[lofty wren]

deadeye was pretty popular for several leagues until they shot an arrow to Tornado Shot's knee

[inland sentinel]

well that's because tshot is the build you go if you want to blast maps fast

[analog meadow]

according to this most pop is trickster now ?

[inland sentinel]

well in kalguur yeah

[analog meadow]

followed by slayer

[lofty wren]

is it the flicker thing?

[inland sentinel]

trickster ls

lightning strike

[lofty wren]

I haven't opened poe in months

[inland sentinel]

both slayer and trickster

[ripe cape]

poe.ninja

[inland sentinel]

yeah this is the longest league ever

[ember mica]

also note that we're REALLY late into a league. Numbers skew a bunch over the course of a league

[analog meadow]

slayer goes in warrior and trickster is rogue i am guessing ?

[lofty wren]

got 40/40 1.5 months in then dipped out

[inland sentinel]

trickster is kind of the rogue class

[ripe cape]

Slayer is Duelist, the counter to Merc

[inland sentinel]

warrior and marauder are pairs

duelist and mercenary are pairs

in poe 2

[stark lynx]

Shadow and Monk

[inland sentinel]

dang that's one heck of a flip coin

[lofty wren]

mana-stacking monk = mank

[ripe cape]

well guess we don't know if they will be back

[inland sentinel]

imagine if shadow never became a thief/assassin for hire

[stark lynx]

then we have the shadow monk, chalupa monk

[lofty wren]

edgy mank

[inland sentinel]

evil avatar

[analog meadow]

so regarding classes and defences how well the so called squishy classes like rogue,sorc fair against endgame bosses in poe1 do they have dodge everything or can they take hit or two like bulky classes like warrior /?

[stark lynx]

we don't know

[analog meadow]

poe 1 i mean

[inland sentinel]

we have no concrete evidence

[lofty wren]

I'll give you advice based on my fighting game experience
don't get hit

[hardy vigil]

survivability is mostly a feature of builds, not classes. Ascendancies give access to some exclusive stuff.

[inland sentinel]

survivability depends how you build yeah

[analog meadow]

so

[stark lynx]

With latest patch in poe1, most of the best defenses heavily leaned into south side of the passive tree

[lofty wren]

the only parameter your class affects is your starting life pool

you get a set amount of life as you level up

[analog meadow]

can sorc be tanky ?

but does less damage ?

[stark lynx]

presumably yes

[inland sentinel]

each class wants a balance of good defense, and even if you're a squishier class, you still should invest a little into basics like elemental resistances, high hp pool, layers of defenses

but it's probably not to the same degree as poe 1

[analog meadow]

ohh they got all these then

[lofty wren]

then all you gotta do to further incraese it is either get a lot of strength, or get the best life mods on your gear, or both

[stark lynx]

The "tankyness" comes in 2 forms:

• Max hit
• how many small hits you can statistically tank

[hardy vigil]

Use wand and shield instead of staff, certainly takes you towards less damage and better defense. I'm not sure you even need any passive block when active block is so nice.

[inland sentinel]

if you have shield and weapon it would bolster your defenses more than wielding 2 weapons

[analog meadow]

wand and shield can be played as sorc ??

[inland sentinel]

yeah

[stark lynx]

There have been numerous caster builds that have had excellent ehp vs many hits, but have been worse in max hit department.

[hardy vigil]

anyone can

[analog meadow]

coooool

[inland sentinel]

all classes can wield any weapon or shield

[stark lynx]

Class doesnt tie you into any weapon type

[inland sentinel]

the only problem would be tree pathing

because you no longer have pass through passives in the middle

cause no scion class

[stark lynx]

Game allows you to play 2h mace Chronomancer if you so choose, but results may vary

[analog meadow]

thats funny bc someone actually mentioned it to me

A MAGE WITH A MACE

[stark lynx]

vs going with the marketed elemental spells on chronomancer

[analog meadow]

i thought he was trolling

[stark lynx]

the latter is probably more straight forward to get going.

[hardy vigil]

You could play that but you'll need to figure out how to make it good. Because mace doesn't buff your spells like caster weapons can. Usually I'd expect you had caster weapon in 1 set and mace in other set, to do that.

[analog meadow]

bw bg3/poe1 and diablos they cooked the best part of them all 😇 🫡

[lament stone]

can also be played on warrior

[stark lynx]

The location on passive tree dictates your, early game, bonuses

[inland sentinel]

well historically poe lets you play however you want, however, it is not without consequences

decisions matter, essentially

[stark lynx]

Going first 30levels without good dmg bonuses probably equals to having bad time

(unless this is Blight patch winions)

[analog meadow]

was it really that bad

[inland sentinel]

I think I want to go fireball/firewall/cremation route

[analog meadow]

ppl actually constantly mentions it how they used to be so broken and they had to patch it later

[slate summit]

Can I play a pacifist diplomat who resolves conflicts with high persuasion rolls?

[stark lynx]

Lets just say MInions got 3 or 4 patches of nerfs in a row

[inland sentinel]

you cannot choose to not fight

just postpone the fight till later

[analog meadow]

till your weekends at best

😅

[stark lynx]

Like you were essentially one shotting everything with just 6L, no passive tree, no other dmg items

[inland sentinel]

maybe one league we'll have a crpg lol

wait can you have 8 6 link skills?

[stark lynx]

I think so

[ripe cape]

9 even

[ember mica]

12 even if you're bold with the gemling

[stark lynx]

unless there is global capacity for sockets

[ripe cape]

possibly plus ascendancy skills

[stark lynx]

idk how it works, it wasnt really explained on ggg stream

[inland sentinel]

I don't even know 36 unique support gems lol

how to make each skill unique while having a coherent build that does decent damage

[ember mica]

new support sockets seem to come in versions of jewelers orbs. Like an "imperfect jewelers orb" might give your skill gem a 3rd socket. And a "perfect jewelers orb" gives up to 6 sockets

They didn't talk about it, but there's a super short clip somewhere in the big livestream that showed it

[hardy vigil]

we know all poe2 support gems that were available in an event maybe 2 weeks ago. If you want to spoil yourself.

[lament stone]

blasphemy is definitely going to be nerfed

[inland sentinel]

but like how to make a build that is coherent and does decent damage while making every skill unique

[lament stone]

only 30 spirit per curse and whispers of doom is a no brainer

[uneven dew]

guys i preorderd poe2 on xbox but didn't receive my mtx yet on poe1, idk if that's normal or no

[vapid forge]

is there a poe 2 client?

[grizzled isle]

There will be a standalone client for the EA, but it hasn't been made available yet. We're expecting downloading to start a day or two before launch

[distant root]

Will I be able to play the campaign entirely with a friend even if it's not couch co op? (like can I invite them) or is it solo

[solar vigil]

Yes you will be able to play with them.

[distant root]

ty

[tacit knot]

I suppose you start at +?

I mewn the north one

With ur ascendancy points i meam

[grizzled isle]

Yes, that looks correct, since it's the same point the regular passive tree originates for that class

[tacit knot]

Thanks

[wild hedge]

I don't understand this

Why would i want pay twice for a skill?

Both mana and life

[ripe cape]

instead i think

[wild hedge]

The wording is super weird..

[grizzled isle]

You're right, that is a downside. But it gets you access to the Life Remnants skill, and to the rest of the ascendancy.
There may also be mechanisms at play with things like gaining damage based on the life spent for a skill, but i don't know the details

[grizzled isle]

No, it's both

[dawn dagger]

So i'm a totally clueless on PoE stuff, but im not getting the whole weapon tied skill system. If anyone can go any weapon what's the point if a warrior can just use any spell a mage can? Is there not a reason for classes outside base stats or am i naive

[grizzled isle]

Have a look at the Bloodmagic node for the wording of something that replaces the mana cost with life costs

[ember mica]

It was mentioned in an interview that they messed up and forgot to mention that you can also gain up to double your max life through the life remnants

[lost kayak]

Classes decide the starting point on the passive tree

That decides which kind of passive skills you get first

[grizzled isle]

Class choice gets you a different starting point on the skill tree, and access to different ascendancy classes

[lunar cosmos]

This is generally how Poe works, 1 and 2. Ascendancy subclasses are also unique

[ember mica]

Life remnants being little orbs you can pick up that heal you when you attack

[ripe cape]

classes just set the starting point of the skill tree and basically starting skills. and Ascendancies of course
but it is free after that

[lunar cosmos]

Ascendancy is a pretty major component of a build

[grizzled isle]

(congrats on modship btw)

[ember mica]

haha thanks!!

[dawn dagger]

Yea cuz like if i wanna do titan warrior for the slam effects, but 2h axes can't do any slam skills then I can't really do that can I? just as an example

[ripe cape]

Also spells don't require a specific weapon

[lost kayak]

Correct.
Axe will have their own skills

[dawn dagger]

well that's unfortunate

[ripe cape]

Axe and Mace used to have the same slam skills.

[grizzled isle]

But you'll still be able to make a titan that uses axes, it'll just be built differently from a titan that uses maces

[dawn dagger]

so im guessing "marauder" is literally just the axe version for warrior whenever he comes out? kinda weird they're seperate

[lost kayak]

You can still go titan
Because I'm sure while the ascendacy focuses on slams
It surely also has general points as well which help your build even using axe

Ye
Marauder - axes
Duelist/gladiator - sword

[dawn dagger]

Ah i see. Not sure why they're splitting the marauder and warrior just weird to me but i never played PoE 1 so i cant make much of an opinion

[lost kayak]

Probably allows them to have greater variety of ascendancies

[ripe cape]

Well marauder is not confirmed anyway. it used to be the "totem warrior"

[dawn dagger]

there was a video of the other classes not out yet tho, a small segment

[distant root]

Just curious, I'm new to PoE and I plan on doing PoE2 and I wanted to know if it was possible to do like a magic swordsman build with sorc? I know that a lot of skills are tied to weapons, but would I still be able to do magic spells while using a sword or a 2h sword, like are any skills class based outside of ascendancy or are they all tied to the weps?

[ember mica]

Axes are being reworked to be "throwable" now. Whether or not that's gonna be their whole thing we don't know. But we do know axe throwing is a thing. And axes overall are the marauder theme

[ripe cape]

swords currently not in

[dawn dagger]

yea in the segment it showed marauder throwing dual axes

[ember mica]

unfortunately we are gonna have to wait for duelist to get swords. So it'll be a while

[grizzled isle]

You can still cast spells while using any melee weapon

[ember mica]

But you can be a hybrid spellcaster/melee if you want

[lost kayak]

Currently , waiting on swords

But yes, you can absolutely do it

[distant root]

ah, alright thanks for the info homies

[lost kayak]

The weapon swapping makes it so much easier to do as well

[distant root]

no swords though is kinda

[ember mica]

exiles forgot the art of bladed weapons it seems

no swords, axes, daggers lol

we've almost got spears figured out at least haha

[lost kayak]

I'm very excited for their skills to come out though

[distant root]

is there a post yet saying what exactly made it into EA and what's not in?

I figured they were just not showing them off, had no idea they didn't make it in

[lost kayak]

If you mean classes then yeah we know the remaining 6 classes

[ripe cape]

the early access FAQ i guess

[ember mica]

Hard to fit it all in one post. But basically what we're still waiting on is 6 classes, 24 ascendancies, 3 acts, and some endgame goodies that we don't even know yet

[distant root]

yeah I'm familiar with the classes, just assumed all the classes/weps we saw in some of those EA vids were all in

[ember mica]

Huntress - Spears
Duelist - Swords/2h swords
Templar - Flails
Marauder - Axes / 2h Axes
Shadow - Traps/Daggers/Claws(?)
Druid - shapeshifting

That's basically what we're waiting for class-wise

[dawn dagger]

i cant find the video that had the short clip duelist/templar/marauder/shadow/druid lmao i saw it yesterday

[distant root]

ahhh I gotcha

[dawn dagger]

i was originally gonna do druid

[ember mica]

"trailer three" is what you're looking for

[lost kayak]

It's in the exilecon video yeah

[distant root]

yeah i knew about the 6 and 2 ascendancies per, just not that the weps were tied directly to those classes that didn't make it in

but that's fine just gotta do some diff planning

[dawn dagger]

ah yea it is trailer 3 yea

[ember mica]

Yeah each class will come with their thematically-tied weapons and skills

[dawn dagger]

do we have any idea how long it'll take before they add those classes?

[ember mica]

Huntress and druid are coming soon for sure

[ripe cape]

months

[ember mica]

They said they wanna get a big batch of stuff out every 2 months or so

But who's to say at this point

[dawn dagger]

the duelist 2h sword looks tiny lol

[ember mica]

Definitely got a ton of stuff on our plate for now, I'm sure we'll have more info on upcoming classes before we're even ready for them haha

[distant root]

yeah I was even thinking of doing merc with crossbow ofc and then swapping to dagger, but I can wait on that as well

[ember mica]

I'm definitely stoked on whatever they've got cooking for shadow.

[dawn dagger]

tbh they all look cool. Need to see how this weapon tied skill stuff works cuz im too used to class systems

[ember mica]

Traps being their own base weapons is already pretty great. But I feel like they've got something cool in store regarding dagger gameplay

[lost kayak]

Shadow should have a lot of omoe wa shinderu gameplay

[ember mica]

It kinda becomes second nature once you get the hang of it. It's pretty freeing if anything haha. From a more experienced player standpoint, you just kinda work backwards from what you'd normally do. You first pick the kinda gameplay/skills you want to use, then figure out what passives and ascendancies best suit it, then build from there

[dawn dagger]

is it like, u equip skills to the weapon so when u swap out you'll have all the skills of the other?

[ember mica]

In poe 2, you just have a menu that you socket the skills into

[lost kayak]

You basically assign skills to weapon sets
Either both
Or one of them

But yeah you don't necessarily change skills because skills aren't slotted into weapons anymore

[dawn dagger]

I think that's what im trying to say. Like for 2h axe i equip skill gems to that weapon class as a whole, and same for 2h sword. so if i switch between them the skills change

[ember mica]

Yeah so you have two sets of weapon slots you can use. You could theoretically put a quarterstaff in one set, and a sword and shield in the other. Then you go to your skill menu and say "I want to use x skill with the staff and y skill with the sword and shield"

[lost kayak]

The skills won't change.
But you can make it so that
When you use the sword skill, you weapon swap automatically to the sword and attack
When you use the axe skill, you swap to the axe and attack.
Skills don't change because you have a static number of them

[dawn dagger]

oh ok

hmm

[ember mica]

For a first character, especially as a new player, I would recommend just kinda sticking with the themes that are tied to the class and go super straight forward with it. Like just use a big mace as a warrior and pick some cool mace skills whenever you get a new skill gem

[lost kayak]

Yeah I agree

[ember mica]

Poe is a game about making a ton of characters and trying out new builds all the time. So it's not like whatever you choose first is what you're gonna be stuck with forever

I've been playing since like 2018 and I haven't made the same build twice haha.

[dawn dagger]

PoE 1 seemed too daunting to me when i looked into it so i just skipped out

[ember mica]

It has that effect on people haha. Luckily GGG has made major steps in improving the new player experience

[lost kayak]

You just gotta focus on the small stuff.
Instead of looking at the entire tree, you just look at what's your options nearby for next passive points.
Instead of looking at all the endgame features, you just play and choose to interact with what interests you

[ripe cape]

or pick a dmg type and build towards

[dawn dagger]

is respeccing that big ass tree easy?

[ember mica]

easier than it used to be in poe 1 haha

[ripe cape]

Gold as currency

in every town

[dawn dagger]

yea i heard alot of how poe 1 made u kinda locked into whatever build u were doing so i was worried originally

i like being able to just, in that moment try something new if it looks cool without having to go through leaps and bounds

[ember mica]

Yeah they took steps to improve it with the most recent league. But now enemies drop gold, and you can just use the gold to respec your tree

[lost kayak]

You could respec in poe1 as well, just required a currency item that dropped

But yes they made it much more convenient with gold

[simple salmon]

How do you get skill gems with more sockets? Like when a skill gem is dropped as loot, or bought from an npc (is this still in the game?) how can you get more sockets on them?

[grizzled isle]

You use jewellers orbs

[simple salmon]

Wait did they mention at all about the rarity of jewllers orbs? If they're as common as poe 1 or purchaseable in shops then everyone's going to have plenty of 6Ls right?

[grizzled isle]

Nah, very different use so they're gonna be much rarer. And there's multiple different kinds, to give different amounts of support sockets

So the high tier ones are probably gonna be pretty rare

[simple salmon]

I see. Hope we get a 5L jewellers orb from act 3 cruel questline or something

[haughty ibex]

can anyone explain the witch orb thing where you can summon a monster you have killed? is there a limit and can you have multiple

[lost kayak]

It's called raise spectre and it's in poe1 too
At least in poe 1, at the higher gem level it's possible to do multiple spectres. So possibly yeah, with a higher spirit cost

[haughty ibex]

so Ash Ketchum build confirmed 🙂

[simple salmon]

I wonder if they'll have +1 max spectres prefix in poe 2

[grizzled isle]

No, because spectre count is determined by your spirit

If you can afford them, you can have them

[haughty ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ash-showoff-gif-21667961

[thorny galleon]

I am entirely new to POE2 so I was wondering if anyone has like a link or guide towards the game that they recommend?
Wanted to know if there's something I should be exceptionally aware of.

And about the early access pack- Is there a big difference between the 30$ and 60$ pack? I see that you get pets on the 60$ pack. Do they auto loot for you? Is there any free pet that the basic early access pack could have in the game?

[grizzled isle]

The game hasn't even entered early access yet, so any guide you could find is either too basic to be helpful, or actively lying to you. There will be guides aplenty next week, though.

[lost kayak]

The mtx you get from the packs are purely cosmetic.
Pets just follow you around

[grizzled isle]

As for packs, the $30 contains no extra mtx just the points. You can have a look at the shop at pathofexile.com to see what pets can be purchased with 300 points, but honestly you'd be better served saving the points for some additional stash tabs. Those can be pretty handy once you're full of loot in the endgame.

[thorny galleon]

Noted- Thank you!

[marsh oxide]

I am based in NA but I will be staying in Taiwan/east asia for the coming year for work related reasons. What should I do? Pretty sure Steam is not banned in the regions I am in, should I just install POE on there and choose the JP/Singapore servers? I don't want to have to play on Garena and have all my progress removed once I return.
Can I transfer my progress between different servers?

[undone sleet]

Can you just VPN and deal with some latency? That's what I would try

Assuming that's better latency than just playing on a further server

[marsh oxide]

Where do I see if my region is supported? Like what about Hong Kong? I'd be staying there for a bit too

also will there be a dedicated necromancer ascendency? Seems like that's what the witch is doing, but none of her ascendancies seem to have anything to do with plagues and raising the undead.

[lost kayak]

Don't think so, they seem to not want an obvious ascendacy for minions that's the always go to pick

[undone sleet]

I'm sure there will be a necromancer - though not in EA. Gemling and Infernalist have some synergies in the meantime

[grizzled isle]

There will be lots of ways to play minions, not one specific "necromancer" ascendancy

[marsh oxide]

huh, I mean that's mainly what I am here for lol rip, not many games let you summon heaps of undeads
tbf the rest of cast looks fun too, especially merc
guess I'd wait for shadow

[undone sleet]

I mean, every class can use every gem and every item

I don't think you need to wait for the game to call something a necromancer for you to have fun

[marsh oxide]

yeah I just want a class that specializes in dot and undeads

[undone sleet]

Check out the infernalist

[marsh oxide]

seen that, kinda

[undone sleet]

Whoops wrong image

[marsh oxide]

turning into a demon seems cool

[gilded gate]

Tbh you can make any class do that, but as for ascendancies, not sure if any nodes have been shown buffing those

[undone sleet]

Lots of support for dot, minions, and even - you guessed it - dot minions

[gilded gate]

Hmm, actually yeah, infernalist does seem good for it, looking at the minion + minion ignite

[marsh oxide]

I remember back in POE1, there's this fire skull summon thingy that's busted

kinda got reminded of that

[undone sleet]

Got you covered

[marsh oxide]

she also has a demon form right

[marsh oxide]

ty

[gilded gate]

That is something she can do ye

but unless you spec into that, she cant

[marsh oxide]

does that have anything to do with summons? or is that it's own thng

[undone sleet]

Check out the screenshot I posted

It shows what we know so far about it

[gilded gate]

yeah just grants a form

i know she casts faster but takes more dmg

[marsh oxide]

oh that's it, ic

[gilded gate]

not sure about anything minion related tho for that form

thats all that was told about it

dec 6th, we can get all the specfic details

[undone sleet]

You'll have to wait a few days to find out for yourself

[marsh oxide]

what bout bloodmage? Does she have anything to do with minions?

or is she all about HP management

[marsh oxide]

ah

[lost kayak]

Gore spike is real nice

[marsh oxide]

was chronomancer in poe1?

she seems interesting

[undone sleet]

No

[marsh oxide]

we know she has a time stop, reverse and plays w cool downs prob

[gilded gate]

iirc bloodmage is using health to gain health.
can go over the max hp cap & then use that to buff herself, like with gore spike

[marsh oxide]

ah

sounds cool but the game play doesnt interest me that much

apparently the devs have said

that inferno is THE minion ascendency rip

[gilded gate]

No idea

[lost kayak]

Tbf the witch is the minion class.
The ascendancy doesn't matter
Ascendancy is the flavor of your witch
Witch already supports minion plenty

[marsh oxide]

I mean the base flavor is necromancy with plagues and stuff

[grizzled isle]

That is not what they've said. They've said there is no THE minion ascendancy, they want there to be variety in the options available for minion builds

[marsh oxide]

https://youtu.be/dq0IsomEJkw?feature=shared

[gilded gate]

a blood mage minion would be good, if we can transfer our crit chance to minions

[marsh oxide]

I heard it from this guy

he said he spoke to the devs

and that's what he was told

apparently

[undone sleet]

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[lost kayak]

The amulet keystone does help a lot in giving a huge boost to minions

[gilded gate]

Maybe, i havent seen any of the leaked stuff (supports or passive tree nodes)

just what they have shown on the stream

[marsh oxide]

ic ty

[undone sleet]

I would just play the game and see what's cool

I'm sure people will cook up lots of fun shit

[gilded gate]

Pretty much, i wanna try a full chaos witch build, like i did in my first blind playthrough of poe1

[marsh oxide]

there's prob still a necromancer
but its not going to be entirely minion focused and has its own tradeoffs

[undone sleet]

There certainly isn't one in EA

[marsh oxide]

yeah fs

[marsh oxide]

druid's the only additional class that might be coming to EA right?

[lost kayak]

All classes will come to ea

Just will take time

[gilded gate]

Druids & hunteress is the 2 classes which wil be coming first to EA iirc

[marsh oxide]

I see, do we know what the unrevealed classes are?

[lost kayak]

Druid, huntress, shadow , duelist , marauder, templar

[marsh oxide]

also how does shadow work in POE, arent they basically assassins? They have tones of AOE I suppose?

've always under the impression it sneaks around and one shot stuff but in POE your AOEs one shot anyways

[undone sleet]

It's a mix of rogue and mage

[tulip urchin]

necromancer will be in poe3

[marsh oxide]

arent u allowed to select multiple classes in poe2?

[undone sleet]

You can create many characters, but a character is a single class

[marsh oxide]

didnt they say u can multiclass?

[undone sleet]

That's not how poe works

Class simply determines your starting location on the passive tree, and the ascendancies you have access to

[marsh oxide]

ik any class can use any skills

on the skill tree

[lost kayak]

You select one class

But then you can use any weapon you want
Any skill you want
And you build a accordingly

[undone sleet]

So you couldn't be multiple classes, fundamentally

[marsh oxide]

I see

no I thought u can switch between 2 different loadouts

heard it from somewhere

[undone sleet]

That's not two different classes

[marsh oxide]

in poe2

like u can swap between a shadow and a monk

[grizzled isle]

You can weapon swap, and have part of your passive tree switch to match your other weapon set

[marsh oxide]

something like that

[undone sleet]

No

[grizzled isle]

No

[undone sleet]

Again, you are a single class

[marsh oxide]

ic, so that's just misinformation

[grizzled isle]

Yeah, someone has misunderstood something

[undone sleet]

The intent is to allow a monk to swap back and forth between say fire damage and frost damage

Not to swap off of being a monk

[lost kayak]

You can swap between a dagger weapon set and a quarterstaff weapon set.

[marsh oxide]

yeah this ik, I just heard u can have different loadouts per character and swap between them

like ascendency loadouts

[marsh oxide]

prob this ^^

[gilded gate]

Ah nah, they are hard locked atm.
talks of having respec was mentioned, but not in the game

so once you pick, your locked in.

[marsh oxide]

ic ty

[hearty walrus]

you do get weapon swap passive points to slightly change your tree for each weapon swap. not nearly enough for 2 completely different builds

[rancid root]

Ok dumb question. Is everyone able to play POE2 on Friday for open beta or no?

[stark lynx]

If you got a key, yes you can

[rancid root]

How do you get keys?

[undone sleet]

It's a 💳 beta

[stark lynx]

Buy or get from someone who got extras

[hearty walrus]

you can buy a pack on the website or launcher/console of choice

[stark lynx]

Or 480€ lifetime purchases

[hearty walrus]

steam/epic launchers

[half ingot]

It's funny how the same questions get asked, all the time

[rancid root]

How would I check how much I've spent over the years?

[hearty walrus]

if you've spent enough, you'll get a key before ea launches

[gilded gate]

best guess is using the transcations page.
but dont think they have a actual method
https://www.pathofexile.com/my-account/transactions

[hearty walrus]

there is a third party tool that calculates it

[rancid root]

Ah gotcha. Yeah I'm way short of the $480 then lol

Appreciate the help everyone

[heady flax]

Anyone know how critical strike chance works? I see some spells have an inherit value, say I got like 50% critical strike chance from the passive tree, is that 50 percent of the value of the spell or it adds it to the value of the spell

[stark lynx]

How it worked in poe1:
(base crit + added crit) * sum of Inc crit * product of more crit

So if gem has 8% base crit, and you allocate a new 50%inc crit chance. Your effective crit chance will be 8+. 5*8 = 12% chance

I dont see why this would have changed going into poe2

[heady flax]

Awesome thank you

Trigger Doom Blast when Curses from Supported Skills expire

Is an enemy dieing considered to cause the curse to expire or does it need to expire before it dies?

[open copper]

Hey all!
I'm a casual player and really debating which class to main, wondering what level is enough to tell if the class clicks to me or not..

[hearty walrus]

if you're gonna play to a theme, then the first few areas might be indicative enough

[open copper]

wdym?

[hearty walrus]

like if you pick warrior and only use maces and slams instead of minions and spells

[tacit knot]

Whats rhe difference between magnitude and effect of ignite

[hearty walrus]

that idk

it's new in poe2

[open copper]

What level you think is enough to get enough mechanics for the class skills to tell if it's fun enough or not?

[hearty walrus]

maybe 10 or so?

[open copper]

Gotcha

[keen shuttle]

HArd to say tbh

More supports = smoother gameplay loop essentially

A lot of skills will feel like ass till they're uniq'd and 6'ld

[open copper]

Yeah but i don't feel like progressing the campaign with a class i later on will not enjoy playing, so i kinda plan on grinding and level up in early stages to get a feeling

[keen shuttle]

Well, maybe not feel like ass, but in comparison to full filled out

That's fair

I think you're better off identifying what archetypes you like more than what class

You wanna melee? cast? shoot?

[open copper]

melee

probably

lol

[keen shuttle]

You want slow hard melee, or fast weak melee?

[hearty walrus]

monk for fast paced. warrior for slow, heavy

[open copper]

that's the part i'm having trouble answering

[keen shuttle]

You wanna go fast or hit hard, that's the real question

Apparently, johnathan is saying melee is legit strong

So, either is a good choice

monk seems to have a lot more micromanagement with charges/stacks etc

[open copper]

Tending to go with "go fast" but would still like to at least try the slow hard of warrior

[keen shuttle]

As to where warrior is "How hard can i make this hit"

[open copper]

So I'll mess around with each class until level 10 and see how it goes i guess

[tepid glacier]

Are POE/2 cosmetics limited time only or are they available permanently?
Not talking about the EA supporter packs.

Also, what's the difference between the Witch and Sorceress besides Ascendancy?

[hearty walrus]

differnce is subclasses

and starting passive nodes

[gilded gate]

Starting nodes, they change depending on character iirc.
witch has spell/minion, sorc doesnt have the minion bit

but yeah that + ascendancy

[tepid glacier]

Thank you

[hearty walrus]

mtx in the shop are there permanently

battle pass, challenges, and supporter packs are temp

[ripe cape]

You think the tree changes?
I doubt that.

[grizzled isle]

Well the devs would disagree with you. The starting area will change depending on which class you pick.

[gilded gate]

i did them mention it.