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[dense agate]

thats barely into act 3

[obtuse moon]

thats fair i guess

[dense agate]

its fortifying cry technically

[winged geyser]

It replaced enduring???

[austere mango]

I always go for the more damage less attack speed nodes, fat aoe hits are the best

[dense agate]

there was no enduring

[obtuse moon]

but still like for act 3 max 170 guard feels kinda not that good

[dense agate]

at least not in 2

[winged geyser]

Wonder how strong the shockwaves are

[austere mango]

Any news on corrupting cry or nodes that increase dots?

[dense agate]

warbringer warcry is better now

the 2 warcry nodes are now one passive

[terse saffron]

Enduring is in poe 1 not 2

[austere mango]

Ohhh noce

[gilded sonnet]

Still damage mitigation

[dense agate]

ignore warcry CD in act 2 big pog

[sly comet]

nova make it ranged warcry with astra proj

[austere mango]

Mana sustain for my corrupting cry builds will still be hard, but more points is nice, I can go into block earlier

[dense agate]

level 31 characters only have 388 base life btw

before strength scaling

assuming 100 strength or so at that point youve only got 588 life

so 170 is not bad at all

[obtuse moon]

also if the shockwave scales in any decent capacity im ready for the nastiest shield charge nukes known to man. infernal cry + fortifying cry + max distance charge to scale up the dmg

[dense agate]

POP

be sure to use herald of ash for extra flavor

also shield charge not having a CD is nice

basically sprint without the chance of getting stunned

[broken dagger]

where did you read that?

i think i read more cd

[dense agate]

its no longer on the gem

[gilded sonnet]

The translation on the article is imperfect

[dense agate]

the damage is way less than before

[gilded sonnet]

The tooltips for the gems are more reliable.

[broken dagger]

seems like yes 😄

[dense agate]

so I assume it balances out for the lack of CD

[inner wedge]

Loud noise!

[broken dagger]

i mean if you can combo with that new shout

[austere mango]

Did it always scalenwith sgield armour

[dense agate]

yes

pretty heavily actually

[broken dagger]

all shield skills did

[loud walrus]

the scaling is less sure but this line is absolutely insane

[dense agate]

it used to be 6 to 8

now its 3 to 5

[austere mango]

Awooooo

[broken dagger]

maybe molten barrier works with it now? while charging

[inner wedge]

MIAUUUU

[broken dagger]

because they changed molten barrier

[gilded sonnet]

Scales more with distance travelled, though

[obtuse moon]

that was one of its main ways to scale it up

[dense agate]

magma barrier now takes 8 seconds to charge

[broken dagger]

and you block while traveling.. so maybe you can hit enemies with molten barrier while charging

[austere mango]

Never went with shield charge as a skill for damage

[dense agate]

but is passive

[gilded sonnet]

You still need to raise the Shield to trigger it

[loud walrus]

its all i played in 0.2

10/10 skill

[obtuse moon]

its amazing

[austere mango]

I mostly did thorns and reflect builds

[whole nebula]

For monk?

[austere mango]

Hoping for a better skill to deliver thorns damage

Howl sounds like a wolf form druid

[broken dagger]

if you never raise your shield you would stay with 25% increased block chance i presume?

probably

[gilded sonnet]

That's a skill on the Wolf minions.

[obtuse moon]

honestly i feel like w the new skills, gems, distance scalar etc shield charge will overall be doing more dmg on avg despite nerfs

[dense agate]

should be yes

[obtuse moon]

thats just my opinion though

[wispy hull]

actual synergy with block nice

[dense agate]

raising your shield gives 100% block anyway

at least from the front

[whole nebula]

Ye i understand 🤣 😉

[dense agate]

so yeah it should be passive block

[broken dagger]

yes but its a nice passive way to increase your block chance 😄

[dense agate]

ye

[inner wedge]

nah, Sorc /s

[dense agate]

im also assuming it hits like a truck

[broken dagger]

why are they doing this to me.. i will play my 4. warrior

[dense agate]

considering its got an 8 second charge time now

also no timing needed

[obtuse moon]

itll be nice for warbringers who dont wanna use svalinn for whatever reason

[inner wedge]

who needs shield charge when you can sprint thru the whole area

i do wanna see actual gameplay of this tho

[dense agate]

the numbers on shield wall also look insane

[obtuse moon]

is shield wall no longer a meme outside of the trampletoes nuke im p sure they patched out

[dense agate]

it had great numbers already it was just bugged

the aoe was super inconsistent and like didnt scale

with passives or gems

[obtuse moon]

icic

[dense agate]

wider with new visuals too it seems

[obtuse moon]

is it actually useful for cordoning enemies in maps or purely for nuking the wall

[dense agate]

both

[obtuse moon]

and/or blocking projectiles i guess

[dense agate]

its like 3x wider than before

[obtuse moon]

icic

wonder how itll look with fortress

[dense agate]

hopefully it makes it around you this time

rather than in front

[obtuse moon]

how's the new mjolnir skill look numbers wise

do we know

[dense agate]

we know the base damage for the given level

but not the explosion/fissures

[obtuse moon]

icic

[sly comet]

100+ new mobs is 100+ new spectres , all i needed to know

[dense agate]

they buffed spectres too

btw

[obtuse moon]

that dmg actually looks really good for the level

[dense agate]

yeah 337% for the impact is sweet

the explosion probably deals 1000%+ (at least collectively)

considering the 8 second cooldown

[sly comet]

yeah read that , the 10 to 16% cost reduction is awesome, we'll see about the buffed damage, hoping they fixed the ones they disabled and bring them back but i don't think they will yet

[broken dagger]

ngl this skill is so cool

[terse saffron]

I wonder what are the sorc and ranger changes

[dense agate]

we got some of the ranger ones already

[terse saffron]

Did we?

[sly comet]

they haven't fixed the gemling " buff per color support " node not affecting totems nor minions yet have they ? went on a long break cause of the spectre whisp form bug ( which apparently is fixed now i know ) but didn't read anything about that

[terse saffron]

I thought we only got witch, warrior and merc

[dense agate]

let me post the pdf

got it

[sly comet]

new ranger ice skills i read

[fleet rain]

mirage archer as a spirit skill too

[sly comet]

you got the pdfs for everything he posted ? if so i'm interested , but prob in PMs to not spam files here

[dense agate]

i got warrior, witch, mercenary, and ranger

[terse saffron]

Nothing about the existing skills?

I only see new ones

[dense agate]

thats all the clases that were posted

before the site got shut down

[sly comet]

i'll take anything you can give me, it's a good read

[autumn scroll]

I really hope the way Sprint actually works is:

• Pressing the key starts the roll animation (first 200ms of it or so, before you actually start rolling).
• Releasing the key in that time actually performs the roll.
• Keeping it held instead transitions directly into sprint without ever rolling.

I think this approach is the only one that will make it feel nice. Having to roll before sprinting is ridiculously jank. Making the roll trigger on key release could feel sluggish.

[terse saffron]

I'm sure there is more

We see tonight

[dense agate]

oh def

[broken dagger]

dunno what to think about the part where we are not locked out of multiple support gems anymore

with the amount of 6 links you can have

[terse saffron]

That's the best part

[terse saffron]

Ya no druid

[broken dagger]

that guy will not stop leaking hahaha

[dense agate]

im not too upset tbh

[broken dagger]

unreal 😄

[sly comet]

well we're getting used to druid being " next " every patch now

[dense agate]

a little disappointed, but theres enough already to get me excited

[loud walrus]

same

personally i wasnt too excited for druid

[wise grotto]

I like it. It means that you can have more decent skills to solve problems instead of relying on something else.

[loud walrus]

and the leaks we have seen seem amazing

[dense agate]

i was gonna play warrior anyway

BONK

[loud walrus]

ye warbringer is prob my favourite ascendancy, and titan is just nice for the simple reason of being good at absolutely everything

[broken dagger]

armour is probably going to be very very strong

[autumn scroll]

I like that lifting the support gem limitation comes at the same time as the lineage supports. It's a way of preserving the spirit of it, but only for a handful of super powerful supports

[broken dagger]

my warrior was almost unkillable last season

[autumn scroll]

So not every active skill ends up with Rakiata's flow or whatever

[dense agate]

yeah rakiatas is ridonk

[loud walrus]

i like being able to reach 91% block chance pretty easily

[sly comet]

same , if nothing i enjoy class wise and i feel frisky about spectres (' since whisp bug had me ragequit 0.2) i'd prob go chronomancer or demon form since it's better now

Xanth can you share the other pdfs please ?

[dense agate]

ive posted most of them

let me link to my own posts one sec

[sly comet]

oh sorry saw only ranger mb then

[dense agate]

let me just repost them whatever

[sly comet]

found warrior but it's a long way back

[dense agate]

images are broken in merc one

someone has a screenshot one sec

[sly comet]

it's fine , only missing witch i think ?

thanks for sharing

[sly comet]

only image missing on your warrior pdf for me is the armor elemental dmg conversion so it's fine

nice thanks

[whole nebula]

Dont like druid at all but i know its the only way to get some friends back to the game they want that class 🤣

[quiet glen]

its armour applies to elemental dmg, not elemental conversion

[sly comet]

i don't actually care about druid all that much i just want the summon wolf skill cause ew skellies

[whole nebula]

Hehe

[sly comet]

you got what i meant

[quiet glen]

[sly comet]

ahaha would be fun if brutes killed your frozen minions

[dense agate]

umm ackshually

[quiet glen]

its at the bottom of the pdf

there have also been soul cores added in 0.2.1 that apply 20% of armour to a specific element

[sly comet]

funny thing is they actually removed the frost mage wannabe caster build

wonder why people aren't talking about that

[quiet glen]

cause minions bad

[sly comet]

stahp

[elder geyser]

this did get looked into IIRC and there was no bug, it was working fine

[sly comet]

so it was a display bug ? cause definitely didn't show and pretty sure no speed gained from all green supports as i tested it back then

[inner wedge]

what are GGG employees doing in that channel

not gonna hate, but Im more curious actually

[sand brook]

a small obj and u get stunned

[quiet glen]

viper must be happy seeing the reactions and even more frustrated that he cant say anything

[elder geyser]

hey I saw a thing I can actually reply to so I did

don't mind me

[inner wedge]

what was the thing

[elder geyser]

I could definitely believe that the display is bugged, sure

[inner wedge]

Oh I see, mb

[sly comet]

But we do like when you pop in though

[inner wedge]

You´re welcome here

[quiet glen]

in viper we trust

[inner wedge]

magnificient

[sly comet]

If I go gemling again and it does nothing i'm gonna cry but i'll try and trust you

curious to see if there are passive tree changes aswell , since gemling used to have minion nodes south but they got removed in 0.2 for banner ones

[inner wedge]

on a more serious note tho

[sly comet]

Zwei being serious , funny

[wispy hull]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-well-actually-as-a-matter-of-fact-gif-27665011

[strong pond]

I'm OOTL, don't most sources of generic "increased damage" not work with minions? What makes this an exception?

[quiet glen]

the node says to the skill specifically, not global

[sly comet]

increased damage is super hard to check anyway , but increased action speed should be visible. Also node clearly stats it buffs skills , which minions are

skill speed * action speed is poe1 i think

[inner wedge]

@elder geyser I am quite sure you and probably some more GGG employees saw the leak spread from the French Journalist (Kaim), what where your reactions like? As for my part, I am really really excited for the sprinting mechanic and we have speculated this like a few months ago, when we saw an graphic desinger working on an warrior animation while the warrior was running fast.
Are you as an employee, happy about the reactions from some (tbh quite alot) of players here seeing the leaks? We all are excited for the new items, skill gems, class changes etc.

[quiet glen]

"no comment"

[inner wedge]

(if you wanna comment on that )

[smoky moat]

Imagine you sprint, you get sniped off the map by a mob, you get stunned, then one shot by a white mob, thank you GGG very fun

[inner wedge]

I mean, cmon give us something what makes you happy

[autumn scroll]

@elder geyser since you're here and listening, if you're still on time, please please don't make sprint require actually rolling before it starts. Make holding go directly into sprint. Unless the leak translation was wrong, of course, which it could be.

I'm one of those MUH IMMERSION people and I hate the idea that I need to roll just to start running fast. Makes no in-universe sense.

[strong pond]

xd

[inner wedge]

read the part again, you hold the dodge roll key and then you can infinitely sprint

[sly comet]

doubt a single dev can make them all change sprint mechanics in time for tonight's stream though

[elder geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-catfallingandhiding-gif-20388336

[quiet glen]

you do roll first

[inner wedge]

one press - dodgeroll
hold - run

[terse saffron]

CAT

[autumn scroll]

What I read is that you roll first, then sprint

[quiet glen]

adding a trigger to check if the roll is held long or short would add a delay to dodge rolls

wich i think would just feel incredibly bad

[sly comet]

we'll have to test if and when it's true and in game

after all it's early access muahaha

[autumn scroll]

Not necessarily, they can take a page off fighting games and make the first 200ms of the animation be identical. You can start leaning forward as when you're about to roll, then if it's held at the end of that window you just launch into a sprint. If it's not held, you roll

[loud walrus]

as long as we can change keybinds for them seperately

[strong pond]

viper, since you clearly care deeply about leaks because we've seen you once here, could you please upload a reaction video to youtube

[autumn scroll]

There's enough startup on the current roll animation before you actually start rolling that they could make it work just branching off that point of the animation

[inner wedge]

We wont tell anyone

[terse saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/spank-fly-off-punish-gif-24897142

[quiet glen]

i bet viper cant wait for reveal night so he can actually talk

[inner wedge]

yea i think too

aight folks, you can talk about the stuff when we did the livestream

otherwise, meet our lawers

[smoky moat]

The current sprint is going to go down like a lead balloon, anyone who’s played WoW and knows aspect of the cheetah will understand

[inner wedge]

aspect of the cheetah is straight ass

[smoky moat]

Yeah, now look at the current iteration of sprint, it’s the same thing

You get hit, you get stunned

[queen musk]

evasion go brrrrrr

[inner wedge]

there needs to be some kind of downside tho

[smoky moat]

No there doesn’t

[inner wedge]

there does

[smoky moat]

The downside is people won’t play your game

Since it’s slow

[inner wedge]

that´s straight bullshit

[smoky moat]

Wym

[inner wedge]

[gilded sonnet]

Yes there does, it's an out of combat thing, if you can sprint in combat then all the balance around player movement speed is out of the window.

[queen musk]

i kinda hate the amount of buffs warrior got

like wtf no cd shield charge

[inner wedge]

exactly what fair is saying

[queen musk]

thats better than sprinting

lemao

[inner wedge]

lemao

[strong pond]

What exactly is it about a roll that makes you run faster

[loud walrus]

french kitty says what

[inner wedge]

what

[loud walrus]

ah i set it up wrong

[inner wedge]

oh

[loud walrus]

le mao

[smoky moat]

Just get slower when you’re in combat, at least then you can react

[inner wedge]

im a french kitty now

[inner wedge]

you can react, which is using an offensive skill

[valid shadow]

GGG adds sprint because ppl complains the game is slow... Then ppl still complains about it... sigh

[smoky moat]

The sprint is a bad iteration

[gilded sonnet]

Why?

[strong pond]

Almost as if there's more than 1 people

[queen musk]

theyve not even played it

[smoky moat]

Aspect of the cheetah from wow

[queen musk]

and they complain

classic

[loud walrus]

how are people even making judgement calls yet

[gilded sonnet]

Don't just reference a random skill, tell me why it's bad on its own

[inner wedge]

I mean, POE2 isnt turning into an competetive game where reaction time is important. But like, I am still saying, if the sprint doesnt have an downside, people would sprint thru the whole map and nothing will happen

[gilded sonnet]

What exactly about it is bad?

[smoky moat]

Mob off screen, snipes you, get stunned, die

Pretty simple

[autumn scroll]

I kind of like the risk-reward idea of having sprint be usable (but risky) in combat. If it ends up working like I'd like (press to start the animation, branch off into dodge if lifted before ~200ms, branch off into dash if still held), then it could have value in combat if you want to dash out of an attack with much fewer iframes and move faster after it, with the risk of being hit and long-stunned if you get clipped.

[loud walrus]

[inner wedge]

Shield Charge as example, you can charge for a few seconds until you either hit an enemy, or the animation is finished

[lime python]

Sounds like a gigantic skill issue

[gilded sonnet]

If you get close to an enemy and have a projectile coming your way, stop sprinting. Simple

[inner wedge]

bumping into enemies is indeed quite frustrating when you just wanna get out of combat, but still

[valid shadow]

@smoky moat sprint is optional, you don't have to use it. Problem solved.

[smoky moat]

Ah yes

The cope

[autumn scroll]

Could allow for skill expression at high level, using sprint in combat if you trust yourself to avoid the hitboxes

[smoky moat]

I could be wrong but that’s where my mind is headed.

[inner wedge]

back paddle in 3...2...1

[smoky moat]

Nope

I still think that if it goes through it’ll be awful

[gilded sonnet]

You can still use it in combat, you just roll first. Against bosses with long phases like Arbiter, it would make all those meteors and flame corridors easier to navigate.

[smoky moat]

I just know I could be wrong

[loud walrus]

give sprint a turn rate

[strong pond]

Seriously, does the sprint happen before the roll or after? Do you use the momentum that was used to make the roll, or do you somehow use the post-roll slow for sprinting?

[quiet glen]

after

[smoky moat]

Bosses I can see the benefit. That is fair

[autumn scroll]

I will still probably enjoy the risk/reward thing even if it requires rolling first. I just think it's silly that you need to roll first for non-combat situations. Like... Alright, time to sprint out of town: BARREL ROLL.

[smoky moat]

Maps, not so much

[inner wedge]

an different downside I could imagine off, would be an cooldown of like idk 2 seconds But then ppl still complain about having an cooldown

[quiet glen]

you can prolly also just use blink to go into sprint right away btw

[autumn scroll]

I hated forced movement skills in PoE1 because of how much they break immersion (who leap slams to travel?) and I was happy PoE2 was moving away from that. Forcing a roll before sprint is a step back in immersion IMO, but I rest my case

[strong pond]

https://tenor.com/view/that-does-not-make-sense-johnnie-cochran-south-park-s2e14-chef-aid-gif-21655993

[dapper quarry]

draven propic = complain, why am I not surprised

[smoky moat]

Nothing wrong with giving your opinion, whether it’s negative or not

[autumn scroll]

Legit if they require dodge before sprint I will have blink on every character's swap 😆

[strong pond]

Why are you calling me multiple sheep

That's very hurtful

[strong pond]

I still don't understand the physical nature of it xd maybe that doesnt matter for once

[loud walrus]

you trip

faceplant

[quiet glen]

its a video game, there is no physical nature

[autumn scroll]

Tbh they would solve this fully for me if they just tweak the animation. Functionally 100% identical to the normal roll, but if you held the button a bit longer than usual through the startup, you just sort of hunch-dash instead of rolling

[strong pond]

Something tells me Jonny-boy wouldnt agree

[autumn scroll]

More variety on dodges as well, visually

[quiet glen]

why can you not jump? why cant you just climb to skip areas?

[strong pond]

It's EA

It's coming

[quiet glen]

[sly comet]

just realised the leaks might contain another hidden leak

rn level 7 volcanic fissure requires 52 str

[quiet glen]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-gif-10673976111485284091

[autumn scroll]

Like, my enjoyment of Elden Ring shot up when I started playing with a mod (ERR) where you dash instead of rolling. I think rolling looks ridiculous 😆

Speaking of which: I wonder how sprint will work then with the keystone that disables roll

I used that keystone a lot last season because Disengage made it a lot less necessary to roll

[strong pond]

You should post that on their reddit

[inner wedge]

41 str

but close

oh nvm

you mean rn

oh

[quiet glen]

zwei moment

[sly comet]

screen is from the leaks, bvaincells not enough indeed

[quiet glen]

you still wonder why you got the illiterate roll

[sly comet]

i mean if it's correct it's insane

it's a 20% reduction rounded down

[inner wedge]

[sly comet]

which would make level 20 gems require 164 stats instead of current 205

[inner wedge]

205 is indeed quite high

[quiet glen]

same

[sly comet]

yeah , tough to get both spectres and companion at 205 hehe

but 164 is much easier

also high end armors are like 157 stat max, so would even all gear to 165 and you're good

while buffing life cause people could get more str

i like this if it's true

[inner wedge]

[autumn scroll]

So, according to leaks Spectre got massively buffed damage. Wonder if that will make them viable

So many synergistic and cool spectre comps I was thinking about in 0.2 and it was never worth it

[summer sand]

I know the leaks mentioned you could Unearth your skeleton's corpses (huge for boss battles)

But what I wanna know is if you can also profane ritual and raise zombie them too

[autumn scroll]

Never was much of a summoner but I wonder: How much of a gain is this compared to just using Sacrifice?

I guess it's a good way to get corpses on boss fights

where you mostly still want your skeletons to be doing damage

[terse saffron]

Being able to use support gems multiple times will be so fun

[inner wedge]

Linage supports will be fun

[terse saffron]

I don't even know what that is

I haven't looked into all the leaks

Saving some for tonight

[pallid oriole]

unique gems that you can only loot, not craft

[terse saffron]

Sounds fun

[reef pike]

something like awakened gems

[terse saffron]

Ah like poe 1 awakened gems

[reef pike]

not exactly

but yea

[terse saffron]

Not exactly as they are not an upgrade to existing gems

Just a different new gem

[reef pike]

some are

and there are completely different ones

and broken

[terse saffron]

Dropping them sounds more fun than doing labs for mf gems

[hazy quarry]

the new gem type is not upgrades though

[inner wedge]

multi tier support gems seem to be quite interesting too tho

[hazy quarry]

yeah they are for sure

[reef pike]

they are, they have tiers now

[hazy quarry]

generally the gem system got a lot wider design space

[hazy quarry]

yes but that is not for the new unique gem type

[terse saffron]

Good because it was so simple and boring

[hazy quarry]

but for gems in general

you now have 5 tiers total, and they can have named level within that.

[reef pike]

yeye i said the same thing

the thing is what did they do about the towers

if its the same as last season its gonna be meh

[hazy quarry]

they do not really need to do anything about towers imho

the whole tower things is totally overblown

[reef pike]

they need to patch it until they change it

we cant have the same dogshit as 0.2

sorry

not playing htat shit again

[winged geyser]

What dogshit?

0.2 towers wasnt the biggest issue

[hazy quarry]

It was not even a major issue let alone the biggest

[reef pike]

burning maps just to travel is not a big issue?

[winged geyser]

No not really

[reef pike]

having to spent 1-2 hours until a good setup is not a issue?

[winged geyser]

Usually by the time i was t15 i had multiple already unlocked eareas for tower setups ready

[pallid oriole]

skill issue if you have to spend 1-2 hours to have a good setup honestly

[reef pike]

rolling the dogshit tablets or going in trade to buy them with noone responding is not a big issue ?

[winged geyser]

0.2 was a disaster but towers imo not

[winged geyser]

Bro thats skill issue

[hazy quarry]

their defintion of a good setup is that they assume they must run double or triple overlaps

which you do not

[wise grotto]

Don't let gigajuicers party farmers mislead you from playing the game the way you enjoy. That't pretty much it. There is a bunch of farming strategies that don't involve towers or at least don't rely on many overlaps.

[terse saffron]

Thinking about it, imagine if we could roll tablets like how we roll maps in poe 1

[reef pike]

if u dont run good setups and good maps u dont get loot

[hazy quarry]

If you wanna gigainvest you can already anul off tablet mods

its expensive but doable

[reef pike]

its boring to do and its not worth

anyway

lets hope for good changes

and additions

[pallid oriole]

that's just not true

[reef pike]

and we will be happy

[reef pike]

cool

[wise grotto]

I don't farm currency, I go straight for items. For that the only 3 things I need is level 80 maps, boss nodes and maxed boss tree.

I do not care about div drop.

[reef pike]

so the game should be just boss rushing?

[wise grotto]

You can't do anything with divs after a month, they are useless.

[winged geyser]

Thats poe2 actually

[reef pike]

but they are adding new cool stuff that u can drop

gems and so

[terse saffron]

Towers are boring I agree

But let's see if they are gonna change something about it

[wise grotto]

Yeah, but the ting is that divs depreciate with the time, but items dont.

[elfin jasper]

huh?

[winged geyser]

Prob 0.4

[reef pike]

what are we talking about guys 😄

[terse saffron]

We don't know

[elfin jasper]

items get cheaper over time

[terse saffron]

tonight we see

[reef pike]

if the item is not only good tiers its useless

after week 1

[terse saffron]

That's not how it works

[elfin jasper]

huh?

[terse saffron]

Witha good economy at least

[inner wedge]

i think with the loot buff we have gotten in 0.2.1, unique items in general shouldnt be that expensive. Remember Chernobog being like 70d

[waxen salmon]

Make tablets and towers be even rarer, and let maps be rerunnable. Explore for a 2 tower over lap? Or Farm your 1 tower?

[wise grotto]

Items got cheaper when they fixed uniques drop. That is a coincidence.

[elfin jasper]

maybe

but yeah in 0.1 uniques were getting cheaper over time too

[hazy quarry]

the vast majority of the market is not uniques though

[reef pike]

make it so towers can be ran without being connected to your maps.

so we can travel through maps and explore

[inner wedge]

astramentis isnt even that special, hopefully pleps wont be pricing it so high

[reef pike]

and run the maps where we want

[terse saffron]

It's trash

[wise grotto]

Also this yeah. There is a lot of garbage for 1 div.

[summer sand]

I imagine being able to bypass the Minions revive more slowly on Sacrifice is a huge boon with the change

[inner wedge]

headhunter

[reef pike]

isnt headhunter now 60 seconds ?

[terse saffron]

headhunter is gud now

[wise grotto]

Yeah, but they also fixed items drop so...

[terse saffron]

headhunter is cheap anyway same as poe 1

[inner wedge]

still missing the Deal X% increased damage to unique and rare enemies line to be the fully headhunter we know

[terse saffron]

Uniques shouldn't be expensive

[reef pike]

tbh only thing i miss is the containment scarab. If they add that i will beh appy

[terse saffron]

They should add something like scarabs ya

To juice the maps until we reach the towers

Then the towers should be the giga juice

[reef pike]

towers should be selectable without being connected to u

fuck that shit otherwise

[wise grotto]

Unfortunately we are not in poe1 so you can't really spend a lot of divs. Which means that people hoard a lot of them.

[inner wedge]

i mean

[naive furnace]

Druid bros, hold the line

[inner wedge]

there are 4 slots for a reason on the map device

[naive furnace]

[reef pike]

Who's gonna tell him

[inner wedge]

i hope we dont get the clusterfuck with scarbabs in poe1 where you need all 5 slots to be filled in order to make a decent div/hr

[gilded sonnet]

They were there in PoE1 long before fragments were added.

[inner wedge]

[terse saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-tongue-cat-licking-white-cat-cursed-cat-gif-27575167

[gilded sonnet]

If any are rare - which some are - or if they're especially good with certain Corruption outcomes, they will necessarily be expensive.

[terse saffron]

Yee I mean corruption outcomes are rare af

Like mageblood with corruption shit in poe 1

[wise grotto]

Corruption is a ponzi scheme.

[naive furnace]

I win either way, either they add druid or they don't and I have one less option to clutter my pool of league start options.

[inner wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/punt-kick-baby-grandma-gif-14603429

[languid raven]

Nothing about manifest weapon yet

[terse saffron]

mageblood to have the charms perma active when

[languid raven]

Still don't understand what they did with bloodmage

[terse saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-screaming-cat-scream-meme-red-eyes-gif-499949615984831120

[inner wedge]

What would you rather want?

The same game we have now, with a new act and a new class.

OR

the same game we have now, with a new act, rebalanced classes but no new class

and obviously much more to come

[languid raven]

New class

[inner wedge]

[languid raven]

Get all the new stuff out of the way then go back and edit

[reef pike]

no new classes no new act all development on endgame was my dream

[languid raven]

Lel

[inner wedge]

[gilded sonnet]

Any additions to campaign are also additions to endgame, also they can't just not release the acts, they'll have to do them at some point.

[inner wedge]

act 1, act 2, act 3, act 4, transition act, map

Much better, no?

[reef pike]

i understand but the endgame should be the most important thing

the game gone past early access now

[terse saffron]

No just make act 4 give more XP till end game

[reef pike]

and they understand it

[terse saffron]

[reef pike]

give us fun or dont realese a league

[pallid oriole]

but new act + interludes IS fun

[gilded sonnet]

And class rebalance stuff is part of the fun

All of that impacts endgame in the end

[inner wedge]

the fun is your possibilites you can do in the game

[lilac python]

what does this mean?
we dont have to replay campaign?

[autumn scroll]

They just made the first node a freebie right? That's great, but I suppose it will have to come with compensatory nerfs because otherwise BM will be extremely busted (it was already a great ascendancy even with its odd negative first node)

[pallid oriole]

we don't

[inner wedge]

I cant wait to get all the atlas points again and do simulacrum again

[reef pike]

new act 4 and 2 more mini acts

[languid raven]

Fair I guess ... I just think the faster you get stuff out the faster you can actually look at the picture as a whole

[gilded sonnet]

3 interludes, not 2

[lilac python]

Is it like D4 now? U just lvl1 with campaign done?

[inner wedge]

@gilded sonnet pin this

[inner wedge]

pats fairshadow

[gilded sonnet]

If the stuff you put out if half-done and horribly unbalanced, you're not getting much of a cohesive picture.

[inner wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[reef pike]

no

[autumn scroll]

I wish GGG's ninjas didn't get to the leaker before the Monk leaks 😢 I want to know what happened to Chayula

[gilded sonnet]

It needs to be good enough first, that's exactly what Viper is pointing out.

[uneven lion]

wait... whats this from? im curious now

[candid badge]

It's allowed to discuss frnech website leaks?

[gilded sonnet]

It's the leaks channel, of course it is

[lilac python]

its in one of the leaks pages

[languid raven]

True

[gilded sonnet]

All the people coming in asking if leaks are allowed in the leaks channel xd

[uneven lion]

what leak pages?

[grim nebula]

chonk nerfed, too op

[reef pike]

btw why did they gave this guy leaks?

i dont understand

[candid badge]

Do you compelte all 3 mini acts, or one? cuz i didnt understand that part from leak

[lilac python]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1mtnry0/preemptive_030_leaks_megathread/

Its all over there

[gilded sonnet]

It was a press event, he just didn't bother withholding them until the embargo ended

[grim nebula]

same reason info is shared with any press

[reef pike]

we will know everything in 10 hours

[grim nebula]

so they can write articles before hand, then release them on day embargo is lifted

[reef pike]

leaking 1 day before the reveal is just lame

[lilac python]

Then how exactly is it? hahah it seems like it

[reef pike]

u have 4 acts and 3 mini acts to complete before endgame

[pallid oriole]

the same way as before, campaign for each character

[candid badge]

I think its described in that leak, but my brain can not process it, so i ask

[hazy quarry]

They were on this discord even (the leaker) claiming the embargo was ambiguous, and someone from GGG rather firmly told them no the embargo was not ambiguous

[gilded sonnet]

I pinned it just now, every character still does campaign, just instead of Cruel, you get 3 interludes to bring you to level 65

[inner wedge]

no more act 1, act 2, act 3 cruel

[lilac python]

Ohhhhh so you only do the 3 interludes

Well that's an interesting shift

[reef pike]

u do the 4 acts then u do the 3 interlude

[inner wedge]

i think its 3 interludes yea

[reef pike]

and then its endgame

[hazy quarry]

honestly the fact that cruel is gone is already making 0.3 a win regardless what else happens

[uneven lion]

Eh wait... not even a single class this time around, based on leaks? or just nothing about classes in the leaks?

[pallid oriole]

just the fact of not having to do act 3 cruel

[lilac python]

The leaks weren't complete

[pallid oriole]

i would not mind doing act 1 again

[reef pike]

the leak is just no druid

[quiet glen]

all we know is no druid

[reef pike]

there are some shadow hopes

[candid badge]

if we need complete all 3 mini acts i think the french guy must mixed something, how we level from 60-65 on taht, i mean, 20+ zones and just 5 levels?

[pallid oriole]

we don't know how long they are

[lilac python]

Where is it confirmed no druid? The leaks by the french guy only had like 50% of the announcement supposedly

[inner wedge]

there is the speculation of marauder tho, since Karui - Marauder

[quiet glen]

the interludes are prolly just like 1 quest each

[gilded sonnet]

That French guy was the one to say it.

[reef pike]

pretty sure he said no druid

[fleet rain]

the 3 interludes temporarily take the place of act 5 and 6

[hazy quarry]

You are already >50 when you finish act 3

[pallid oriole]

he said there was no druid

[uneven lion]

OK OK, MAYBE JUST MAYBE, A FUCKING MELEE CLASS FINALLY! And not a bloody flimsy spear

[hazy quarry]

So assuming act 4 is on the longer side seeing it take us to 60 seems reasonable

[quiet glen]

marauder could happen

[hazy quarry]

then 5 levels for the three interludes seems reasonable as well

I would not expect any class

[inner wedge]

Berserker Flickerstrike going brrrrr

[uneven lion]

fuck act 4, if i get marauder im playing

[calm widget]

each act is now 15 levels so they should all roughly be the same

[pallid oriole]

yeah but when we get act 5-6 it'll only grant us 5 levels ?

seems short

[lilac python]

Thought the stuff he leaked didn't have druid, but didn't see where he said 'theres no druid'.
Big difference between leaks not having anything about druid and him saying its not coming

[quiet glen]

axes have had the most ammount of unused skills in the files and act 4 is at the karuis

[uneven lion]

or at least the duelist. i need swords or axes

[reef pike]

pretty sure he said no druid mate but we will see in 10 hours

[pallid oriole]

he said there was no druid, he had made a link saying "possible druid" but later said it was wrong

[lilac python]

Aw 🙁

So no new class?

[hazy quarry]

The last zone iirc is literally level 45 or so

[uneven lion]

warrior has been the most boring melee class so far so im hoping a melee dual wielder will pump some big dick dps

[lilac python]

Damn

[hazy quarry]

in act 3 non cruel

so yeah it maps

[uneven lion]

only no druid

[reef pike]

swords are the hope for melee i guess

[lilac python]

Im inferring no new class since they said the only 2 that were close were huntress and druid

[inner wedge]

when do chinese testers share gameplay

[hazy quarry]

after the reveal most likely

when the actual embargo is gone

[fleet rain]

the wait is killing meeee

[uneven lion]

the only definitive info was no druid and not no new class...
but if they really do a blunder and seriously add no new class...

[inner wedge]

Karui btw - marooder /s

[hazy quarry]

nah from the leaks 0.3 is the "we are so back" update

[inner wedge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/1hgggmr/act_iv_artbook_information_spoiler/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[lilac python]

holy... he actually said no new class...?
if no new class it's gonna be bad :/
gonna go stress eat for the next 10h

[inner wedge]

leave no crumbs!

[quiet glen]

read that again

slowly

[uneven lion]

no no, i said no druid and NOT no new class. the lack of new class is unknown... YET

[sly comet]

i mean druid has been pushed 2 patches already , pretty sure people can survive on an unanounced class no coming in a week

[inner wedge]

reading is hard, i can understand him

[lilac python]

ahhhh ok, the crumbs shall survive

[pallid oriole]

why are people so pressed over a new class. I'm sure everyone hasn't played everything yet

[quiet glen]

the chinese leaks a couple days ago also had confirmation on no druid but did mention another class coming

[calm widget]

they're literally changing every skill gem and every support gem to the point where it's an entirely different game to what we've played up to this point and we haven't even seen anything related to passive tree or the itemization changes or the atlas tree or currency or the new league mechanic a new class makes no difference

[pallid oriole]

like i can understand wanting them but saying "it's joever if no new class" is just braindead

[uneven lion]

because new class = new weapon type
a lot of missing weapons have the playstyle people want but still cant pursue

[reef pike]

guys just pick the class that has movement speed and be happy

[quiet glen]

the funny part is, we already have the same ammount of classes that poe1 had

[rare thorn]

anyone got the full pdf of the leak for mercenary with images

[reef pike]

if they remove movement speed notes on the other hand, its joever

[lilac python]

i mean, more or less. no new class means no new weapon type. and even if we think about ea as a whole when johnathan said 6m-1y it's kinda... off

[pallid oriole]

oh shoot

it doesn't have images

[uneven lion]

uhuh dont care. theres still no swords or axes

[reef pike]

everything shifted after his statement. The game is now treated pretty much as a released game

it doesnt matter ea or not anymore

just give us fun

[sly comet]

given how bad they are at screenshotting the text is enough

[rare thorn]

yeah sadge i download the warrior and raanger one with image but forgot abt the merc one

[quiet glen]

imma tell viper to pospone swords and axes as much as possible just for you ❤️

[fleet rain]

as a warrior enjoyer I've been a bit frustrated by the lack of stuff from other classes that I can borrow. so I'd be really happy to see new additions that help with that, but to be fair if they do something like reducing attribute requirements that's already new possibilities opened

[uneven lion]

ive been making this point since day one since they decided on leagues. this is entirely on GGG

[reef pike]

but thats good

[pallid oriole]

He HOPED to release within that time. And 1.0 will only be a normal league for EA players, maybe a tiny bigger league but still

[inner wedge]

lets be honest, druid may be getting an rework or still causes some serious techical issues. Yes, there is gameplay from a year ago - but I think GGG is actually taking their time with Druid, because the class is the true shapeshifter class, and we saw in D4 how much trouble an druid can cause
No neck, missing textures, fully naked (possible!), uhh idk shapeshift being misrendered, etc.

[lilac python]

tbh im fine with fun. the #1 thing i really hope they don't do is make poe2 so damn convoluted and bloated as 1. Especially since only a really low % of the playerbase in 1 actually gets to enjoy the coolest hbuilds due to the catastrophic economy

[uneven lion]

not sure why a game thats not even done, being treated as full release is good

[inner wedge]

zwei being honest, oh wow

[sly comet]

it's fine , don't release druid but gimme my wolves

[inner wedge]

[lilac python]

not sure he said it with that intent the first time, he emphasized a lot the timeframe

[quiet glen]

rare good zwei take

[inner wedge]

you have them, in act 1

[uneven lion]

if the leaks are nything to go by, i think the system rework for the gems may have delayed druid

[inner wedge]

appreciate the praise

[reef pike]

i dont think a game with 7 classes can be treated as undone

its enough

as long as the endgame is great

they can then start adding new classes

[quiet glen]

dont get used to it

[hazy quarry]

Yeah a lot of unknowns still, the leak had 0 coverage of endgame because it was shut down before that

[uneven lion]

no offense, but if you want to gobble up whatever BS youre fed then cool. but i dont just eat up any shit

[hazy quarry]

So that is what I am most curious about, the new ascendencies, the endgame changes, and the league

[inner wedge]

or even that, yea - which sounds actually more reasonable. Especially with no support gem restriction (godly change!) and with the addition of the Linage Supports, balance wise, GGG should take another look on that

[reef pike]

it should be complex. The better the player the better the gear eventually. Poe is a learning game

[inner wedge]

we just dont know, maybe druid is too shy to go out

[lilac python]

Blind monk pls

[reef pike]

do u want new classes and trash endgame, or no new classes and great endgame?

[lilac python]

yeah but to an extent. if only 5% of players ever get to 10+d then you have a big problem which im pretty sure is actually a very nice number compared to reality

[inner wedge]

i didnt expect it anyway

[pallid oriole]

that's just skill issue ngl

[uneven lion]

if i wont want to reach endgame because i dont have the playstyle i seek, i would rather get new classes and shit endgame. at least then, i can even reach the endgame

[reef pike]

the game should be a endless grind otherwise we end up with d4 and last epoch

[sly comet]

not untrue maybe with the buff to spectres they're good now

[lilac python]

im ok with endless grind but not for functional builds. even a-b tier builds cost hundreds and hundreds of divines in 1. its unjustifiable

[reef pike]

thats what we love brother

u want a good build u have to grind it

[inner wedge]

never fw spectres not even in poe1 yet

[uneven lion]

endless grind should be to make a functional build even better, not to reach the point of a functional build ⏫

[candid badge]

If there is no new class, i think i might go play crossbow dedeye again, now with defelction insted of stacking ES

[reef pike]

with the additional arrow runes i saw im going deadeye bow

[hazy quarry]

We know from poe 1 that only 15.6% of players ever opened a map

[reef pike]

movement speed is king for me

[lilac python]

we, yes, the very low % who actually get it. What about the rest? i cant get any friend into the game because they just dont have any sense of progression.
also from a business perspective it makes no sense

[inner wedge]

oh speaking as of currency farming - there is trials which are pretty profitable - there is delirium juicing - there is crafting, gambling, etc. I think we have a decent portion of how to get some divines

I hope Sanctum doesnt get nerfed in POE2 otherwise I might need to be angwy

uh I mean Ultimatum, whoops

[reef pike]

thats why we love ggg man. They didnt go the easy way which destroyed so many games for the grinders

[inner wedge]

its an document, you donut

[uneven lion]

i think this is due to the players being unable to find a playstyle they like or would like. Forcing people to play a limited choice that lacks what they want will not help them reach the endgame

[candid badge]

well, unless beast mastery huntres is real, and it look good, cuz companions was f trash last patch, i might be sold on that also 😄

[hazy quarry]

I would bet money that the numbers are a lot higher in poe 2

[lilac python]

again, im not disagreeing with you. im saying there are thresholds, and if realistically 99% of the people aren't even able to make it to tier b or c, then you're doing smth wrong

[hazy quarry]

that is my whole point

[winged geyser]

Samenproblem here. Games not for new plauers

[hazy quarry]

GGG never inteded poe 2 to be significantly harder. Meaningful combat != dark souls lite

[dense agate]

cant believe that dude isnt perma'd by now

[reef pike]

0.1 had a crazy player retention and new players loved it

[dense agate]

he just baits nonstop lol

[lilac python]

this. and i just hope poe2 doesnt go down the same road.
but considering the simple fact 99% wont be able to use a whittling orb, seems like it will

[uneven lion]

it could be.
I think with how limiting poe1 is in terms of builds early on and then the weird -30% res stuff, people just dont like the huge hassle carried with it

[lilac python]

yeah and you could have 10x the players if you made it more accessible without compromising the toughness of end-endgame

[reef pike]

omens are dognshit, on that we can agree

[reef pike]

if game easy, league over 1 day

look at last epoch and d4

[hazy quarry]

then you just said poe 1 metacrafting is dogshit

because omens are a form of metacrafting

[inner wedge]

there is alot of ppl that I cant believe they arent perma banned, but it is what it is

[uneven lion]

tbf, while i would love for GGG to focus on acts and all the classes, endgame is also important... but frankly only 1 class per update is tad bit ridiculously low considering the classes come with weapons

[lilac python]

Bro. No one's saying make the game easy lol.
You can make the game as is without sticking it to 95% of the playerbase lmao.
Things like making crafting accessible, improving raw drops, increasing drop rates, auction house and the list goes on

[candid badge]

they need giga buff hp, for bosses i think around 10x with how much power they add, and how easy to oneshoot them was even before

[opaque shale]

if 70% of players never get to endgame then its not really that important

[uneven lion]

dont think there is any point arguing about it, ppl will be stubborn anyway

[lilac python]

guess so

[opaque shale]

there is potential that this patch might actually fix a lot of the issues so thats good

[dense agate]

not the solution

[uneven lion]

ok and poe1 still has that 15% issue even though the endgame is its main point, and?

[waxen salmon]

Meanwhile the best retention in poe leagues is the ones that print currency and items, and the lowest retention are the 'harder' ones

[lilac python]

^^^^^^^^

[reef pike]

what do u want to happen? The game to become for casuals? Do u want to have eerything in the game by day 2?

there will always be good players and bad players

u cant fix that

[candid badge]

they can also nerf players damage by 90% 😄

[hazy quarry]

poe 2 needs to shed the chris wilson school of game design that focuses too much on friction

[opaque shale]

poe2 is specifically made for a broader audience

[hazy quarry]

And its doing so with 0.3 by the sound of it

[dense agate]

how about nerfing outliers instead

[quiet glen]

how about reflect as a random enemy mod

[candid badge]

thats a separate part of nerfs

[winged geyser]

Deflect boutta be insane btw

[uneven lion]

oh great, another idiotic argument. I talk about one thing and immediately it devolved to "Do U wAnT EvEryTHInG dAY 2"
if thats all you have as your counter even though im not arguing about it, im not interested wasting my time

[reef pike]

Do u prefer to play last epoch or poe. I dont get u brother

[glad yoke]

deflect feels like suppression, but for all dmg types

[opaque shale]

they need to add an equivalent to armour break for evasion and ES based classes where your whol defense gets completely negated so you get oneshot

[hazy quarry]

because it is. It is poe 1 spell supression but for all attacks

[uneven lion]

yes i know that, thats why acts and classes should be first. broader audience play for the acts and classes first, and if they like the acts they will stick for the endgame

[quiet glen]

they tried to balance it by being only 40% reduction, but deflect is gonna go nuts

[gaunt scaffold]

Someone's grumpy, might be time for a snack lil' buddy

[hazy quarry]

and I fully expect GGG to also have it on waystones the other way around btw

[uneven lion]

i dont play last epoch, not sure what your argument is here

[waxen salmon]

can you 100% chance to deflect or is it capped like block?

[winged geyser]

How are they changing block? It will block normal aoes too right?

[hazy quarry]

aka you can roll a line that says enemies get x deflect rating

[quiet glen]

the change is to active block

not passive

[hazy quarry]

You can 100% deflect if you heavily invest in it

[winged geyser]

Guccc

Fucccx

[hazy quarry]

but that means you have to invest heavily into the tree and lines on gear

[winged geyser]

Fuck block im going deflect warrior

[loud walrus]

just play warbringer

[hazy quarry]

so its not trivial

[waxen salmon]

Sick. I like having more layers to possibly grab

[quiet glen]

i will deflect your statement

[hazy quarry]

thats exactly what it is, its one more defensive layer

[inner wedge]

nono, how about reflect - Enemies reflect X% of Players Elemental and Physical Damage

[quiet glen]

that is what reflect is

yes

[hazy quarry]

and it was necessary because for ranger and merc it was unreasonably expensive points wise to get to ES nodes

[loud walrus]

nono, how about reflect - Enemies reflect X% of Players Elemental and Physical Damage

[quiet glen]

That is what reflect is

yes

[dense agate]

nono

[inner wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-haha-laugh-sad-serious-gif-1439798908224208167

[reef pike]

how about enemy is immortal and leave a cold wall and runs away ?

[inner wedge]

even better

[uneven lion]

we already have that in maps... if youre unlucky

[dense agate]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-paul-laugh-nba-rockets-laughing-gif-10852041

[opaque shale]

reflect should also be a hidden modifier

[inner wedge]

btw, im gonna have more than enough time to play poe2

[dense agate]

ayy

[quiet glen]

poe3 will fix it

[waxen salmon]

We need "enemies prevent players from pausing, logging, or portaling'

[dense agate]

Player Dies IRL

[quiet glen]

its called pinnacles

[waxen salmon]

Yeah, new map/rare mod

[loud walrus]

void as another hidden modifier would be cool

[reef pike]

we also need monsters reflect ailments

u freeze u got frozen

love that idea

[inner wedge]

[dense agate]

i like how this channel is now just #2┃general 2

[quiet glen]

i need that

[dense agate]

we aint even talking about leaks anymore

[waxen salmon]

General 2 but we talk about deflect

[inner wedge]

there is this vr goggle i know of, which does this but its offtopic so

[dense agate]

true deflect is technically leaked info

[quiet glen]

well, tonight we can talk in general 2

[uneven lion]

i think its kinda stupid you cant pause in pinnacles, but its like... whatever anyway 😂
at least until i know whether the right class for me will change that fact

[opaque shale]

some people are still coping that there might be a new class like marauder, what do you guys think

[loud walrus]

nah

but no point speculating this close to content reveal

[dense agate]

you mean from our favorite psychopath youtube engineer

[waxen salmon]

2025 Huntress
2026 Druid*
2027 Duelist and swords

*will be delayed by 1-2 years

[quiet glen]

we getting all classes but druid

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[cloud lion]

so its confirmed no new class?

[winged geyser]

Probavly more like 2028

[desert raptor]

there's no confirmation to anything

[candid badge]

possible, but i would bet my moneys that they spend to much time fixing current classes and left any new one

[quiet glen]

only confirmation is no druid

[opaque shale]

stop leaking the roadmap

[cloud lion]

okay thanks!

[uneven lion]

only leaked confirmation we might have is no druid

[reef pike]

Druid is scrapped out. Doesnt fit in poe world

[dense agate]

wdym were in the leaks channel

only place to leak that ayy lmao

[opaque shale]

i dont think its confirmed, it just wasnt in the leakss

[dense agate]

nah the french guy later said no druid

he leaked again

[opaque shale]

[dense agate]

it will come later he said

which I mean, obviously

[candid badge]

other leaks from china testers said 'new class is not what evryone expect", it didnt said there is no new class

[dense agate]

imagine they just bombshell marauder on us

i doubt it

but imagine

[loud walrus]

id be happy about that

[opaque shale]

i dont care if its druid tbh, but i would be happy if they add a new class or weapon

[winged geyser]

No class, it wouldve been leaked

[uneven lion]

hopefully JUST no druid
hopefully marauder or maybe duelist... though i fear it will be templar and i fear it cuz you cant dual wield flails 💀

[dense agate]

not necessarily

[candid badge]

would be leaked if ggg didnt stop french guy, he said he elaked only 40%

[broken dagger]

there is no new class this season. just live with it

[dense agate]

the leakers only have what GGG gives them

what if they kept it under covers for the reveal

[uneven lion]

well if there is no new class im not playing the league 😂

[opaque shale]

jonathan never explicitly denied that there wont be shadow, duelist, marauder and templar releasing in 0.3 so its basically confirmed

[quiet glen]

thank god

[broken dagger]

see ya

[desert raptor]

based on lore:
Kulemak is connected to katarina - "Staff of Kulemak" drops from her and giving her immortality - and he is sealed in Abyss (teaser of teaser looks like abyss and is called "kulemak"
so abyss - at some sort from lore perspective is confirmed
Act 4 happening after Atziri and beast doing stuffie - Eddicts are "Cataclysms" - We know Atziri sacrifaces entire Vaal civilizaton and get stuck in breach universe. Freeing breach lords from learm.

so i guess.. act 4 boss is Atziri before the cataclysm (eddict) happened
kulemak is free from abyss - being pinnacle boss
katarina and syndicate survived in help of kulemak that stoles powers from others and providing immortality. Abyss+ syndicate return = new abyss and new syndicate afixes.

my guess based on lore.

[winged geyser]

Yea but like, ok you get all those leaks and you leak, why on earth would you first leak all the useless shit before leaking the new class

Makes no sense

[waxen salmon]

I can't wait to meme about 1 class/weapon a year if there's no class in 0.3

[winged geyser]

There has to be no new class

[cloud lion]

GGG overdelivers guys! there is gonna be 2 new classes!

[dense agate]

act 4 boss is most likely hoko

not atiziri

he has multiple pages in the art book

[candid badge]

all classes, expect druid

[dense agate]

my guess is he's going to be like a resident evil 'stalker' enemy, like Nemesis in RE3

and he gets progressively more corrupted in each encounter

[hazy quarry]

that makes no sense whatsoever. They inform the press so they can put up articles after the embargo lifts. So withholding that from them would mean their big ticket item is not reported on

its pure copium

[candid badge]

i would say templar, shadow and maraudr is possible, duelist no

[desert raptor]

templar files are data mined. Sound files.

[dense agate]

not reported on instantly =/= not reported on

[hazy quarry]

yes there also were the DNT tags removed from druid which means that the druid text is finalized

which was also a supposed "leak" that druid is coming

and look where that got us

[snow gull]

Druid files were also data mined, doesn't mean anything

[desert raptor]

but i think we can be sure only of what i said from lore perspective.

[candid badge]

thery added some dagger, flail and axe skills in last patch, but didnt add any sword skills, mean swords are in lowest development

[desert raptor]

ye, sure. You are right.

[steep thistle]

got to love the mind games from ggg

[loud walrus]

so are duelist

[hazy quarry]

its not mind games its just them doing development stuff things like that happen as you develop things

[uneven lion]

oh if thats the case then probably act 6

[waxen salmon]

🙏 Please stop making every skill weapon-locked 🙏

[quiet glen]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212

[broken dagger]

i am just happy that cruel is gone 😄

[uneven lion]

tbh, leap being a mace skill is stupid. axes would work as well like in poe1

[candid badge]

axe have his own leap, it is (or was) in poe2db

[opaque shale]

depends how good the new acts will be.. since they are just placeholders i cant see them be extremely good

[dense agate]

cooleen this is the 3rd time youve posted cat pissing.gif today

[opaque shale]

but its at least new for the first run

[hazy quarry]

well the interludes are also considerably shorter experiences

because act 4 is a bit longer

[reef pike]

they prob added them to put the new bosses they created there.Thats how i see it

[broken dagger]

i dont think they will be bad. and the main thing is i do not need to repeat act 1 - 3 so soon. its a bit annoying

[quiet glen]

i thought this channel was for taking leaks

[dense agate]

god im still so pumped to set enemies on fire and then Kaom all over the place

[broken dagger]

i dont care repeating the acts.. but cruel just does not click for me

[snow gull]

I don't get the point of spending time & energy for 5 levels... They could have increased temporarily exp gained in act4 and worked on new mechanics

[candid badge]

they needed to put missing skill points and other permanet buffs somwhere, the ones you will get in act 5 and 6

[broken dagger]

its not they throw them away dude

this is just somthing that will be put somewhere else

[hazy quarry]

because they can later also be used as endgame maps and so do their bosses

it gives endgame variety on top of servering as a way to remove cruel

[waxen salmon]

I imagine there was a huge falloff of new players when they beat act 3, saw they were back at the beach, and didn't realize there was still more game post-cruel

[karmic gulch]

Campaign is fun 1-2 time

[snow gull]

You got a point here. Wait & see 🙂

[broken dagger]

its fun multiple times i dont care. but its not fun to repeat it imediately

[karmic gulch]

is Vaal civilization not extinct ?

[hazy quarry]

Yeah the main issue is the instant repetition

its not the repetion per se, but that you have to do it back to back

[uneven lion]

campaign can be fun infinite times if you have a class you like. Those that play for the best build will always get burned out fast

[candid badge]

bro, i would rather beat poe 2 campaing 10x in row, than another single ebat of LE campaign, it is so bad

[broken dagger]

this

and poe1 campaign is something i hate too xD

[waxen salmon]

but the LE campaign is like 90 minutes

[uneven lion]

cant comment on LE. never played it

[broken dagger]

its still bad

[reef pike]

the whole game is like 90 minutes

[waxen salmon]

Whatever gets me to maps the fastest is bis

[dense agate]

COPIUM

[reef pike]

but there are 7 right now ? or am i stupid

[quiet glen]

larger, for the people in the back

[waxen salmon]

I'd never do either poe campaign again if I could green map 1-65, even if it took like 3x longer

[candid badge]

it is 7 now

[dense agate]

im aware

[uneven lion]

as in new class or we get no new class?
could also mean nothing cuz they might not know what good builds there are on a new class so they wont include it

[dense agate]

no class

[uneven lion]

especially if they are prebuilds

[waxen salmon]

8.5 hours until GGG leaks 0.3

[candid badge]

it is from?

[dense agate]

Ranger, Warrior, Mercenary, Huntress, Witch, Sorceress, Monk

7

[dense agate]

gamescom boss rush event

[candid badge]

lol, why would they spoil new class there 😄

[dense agate]

COPIUM

[uneven lion]

also looking at the boss rush thing, i dont think a prebuilt for a new class would make way anyway. That is not how you show off a class usually so makes no sense.
im just going by logic here not copium

[tribal vortex]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3816430

[candid badge]

i would bet a new class is like 20% possible, but thats still not 0%

[cloud lion]

mercenaries in 0.4 would be so dope

[uneven lion]

i would legit just ignore the boss rush thing as a sign or lack of signs of a new class. just makes no sense to have a prebuilt for a new class.
new or no new class, they wouldnt have it in an event

[modern phoenix]

no not doryani league again

[loud walrus]

never mercs again thanks

[lime python]

what the, mercs are awesome

[candid badge]

you think ggg is stupid? if they would put new class on gamescom it would be same thing as public announcment of what is new class

[uneven lion]

mercs are awesome but their balance is idiotically bad

[cloud lion]

didn't ggg say they will release 1.0 even if not all the classes are in?

[dense agate]

We already have Mercenary, just not ...Mercenaries

[uneven lion]

i bet they will. its easy way to milk money

[candid badge]

one intervies Jonathan said it is possible

[karmic gulch]

what if it Totally new class that do not exist anywhere yet

[crimson sage]

I've missed my boy, Jonathan. Soon.

[uneven lion]

what, like a scion 2.0? doubt it

[lime python]

i think they shifted the definition for a 1.0 release, and its getting all of the acts in the game with a solid end game

[karmic gulch]

The class that start at the middle of the Skill tree like in poe1 kekw

[crimson sage]

Templar would be cool though

that 1 littel glimpse way back of templar+flail looked sick and the sound of the flail, flailing

[candid badge]

new class is Wizard, a 3rd int class

[uneven lion]

also going back to this... is the marauder thing a leaked image?

[karmic gulch]

that the girl class that start at the middle of skill tree right ? yes yes

[crimson sage]

Wizzkid

[opaque shale]

i really hate the fact that they are spoiling the new bosses like that,i always thought ggg doesnt like spoiling stuff like bosses

[uneven lion]

well, they can make her even hotter now with better graphics 😂

[karmic gulch]

True she the hottest in poe1

[dense agate]

poe 2 china event ranger cosplay though

[candid badge]

i think how hard it will be to get 100% defelction, and if you will even know when you are at 100% if its based on enemy accuracy?

[dense agate]

its raw chance for all hits

accuracy doesnt factor in at all

[hazy quarry]

that is wrong

[reef pike]

it should be based on enemy accuracy

for sure

[candid badge]

description of deflection ahve soemthing about enemy accuracy for sure

[dense agate]

how could it possibly be based on accuracy if it affects all hits

[candid badge]

the odds of deflection are based on enemy accuracy

[autumn scroll]

I wish deflection just outright replaced evasion

[hazy quarry]

the accuracy value of the enemy not yours

[autumn scroll]

Evasion is stupid

[candid badge]

so blind might be very good,

[reef pike]

evasion is great for me

[dense agate]

imma be honest, I forgot that enemy damage is uncategorized in 2 for a second

[waxen salmon]

uncategorized?

[dense agate]

there are no spells/attacks in 2

[short turtle]

Is there an NDA for the Gamescom Boss Rush event? Any updates?

[dense agate]

for enemy damage at least

they are the same

[waxen salmon]

Isn't the new armour thing only for attacks?

[candid badge]

they are, but there is no defense that take that to account

[dense agate]

im aware

[keen cave]

🤔

[uneven lion]

the marauder image... is that from the leak or some old stuff?

[dense agate]

i literally just said I forgot theyre the same in 2

[opaque shale]

wdym by NDA ? its a live event where people can watch

[uneven lion]

but like... newest leaks or old footage?

[dense agate]

dont listen its bait

[uneven lion]

sigh yeah, i figured out its bait when he said yes >.>

[cloud lion]

is it gonna be streamed?

[pallid oriole]

"live"

[dense agate]

i dont know if ggg has a presentation for gamescom or not

[opaque shale]

i would assume so

[dense agate]

or if its just the booths

[pallid oriole]

i would assume it is yeah

[dense agate]

its hard to find the actual schedule for the presentations