#EggWars suggest changes

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modern gate
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Feedback

fossil basin
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I think the new update has removed rushing as a whole, prices are different but can be changed. The whole gameplay has changed from what’s everyone is used to and the community didn’t have a big say. There wasn’t much wrong with the old eggwars.

modern gate
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What prices would you suggest to help balance?

lusty portal
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Maybe implementing all the changes in the old system rather than a complete change in the whole gamemode

fossil basin
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I understand that you need to keep gameplay fresh and exciting but I feel like the whole “eggwars” has been changed.

winged meteor
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Old mangrove pls
And make armour stronger

pine sorrel
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wool 100% needs to be removed, just more annoying in the shop and doesnt surve any purpose. I also think prot 2 would make more sense then prot 1

fossil basin
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Op feels like a mix of old normal and hardcore and not op.

silver egret
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I completely agree, the big changes that are inflicted upon the community aren’t normally actually used based on what the community wants? It doesn’t feel like there’s much inclusion into the thought process or progress of the major updates, and this new eggwars OP update is really different. OP was so much easier before but with all of these differences, prices, options, it’s insanely different and completely unlike what every has been used to for so long

pine sorrel
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also considering the gen speeds, mega maps such as crystals need more iron generators because atm having 3 generators all low levels is very unbearable for 10 players

winged meteor
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Yes pls give crystals more gens

modern gate
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Mega maps with more gens is an easy fix I’ll sort that tomorrow

fossil basin
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Op isn’t op anymore, it’s a different version of op which feels like a mix of normal and hardcore. Iron armour being 10iron eliminates rushing

sullen stream
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Would it be possible to re-add redstone?

winged meteor
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I tjink the main thing is make armour a bit stronger than it is, maybe prot 1 or 2 to start when bought from the shop.
And slightly lower block prices

pine sorrel
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also pickaxes need to be buffed because the e5 wooden pickaxe u get from miner kit is way better then most of the pickaxes

fossil basin
pine sorrel
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the price of ladders needs to go back to what it was, 4 iron for 1 ladder is way to expensive and buying each ladder one by one is a pain

sullen stream
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I say remove the whole update

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And start from scratch again

pine sorrel
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tnt prices should be halfed because 16gold per tnt seems way to expensive

sullen stream
pine sorrel
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bows need to be more expensive imo because theyre very cheap rn

fossil basin
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Old op should be added back and slight changes should be made to keep it fresh.

knotty flare
pine sorrel
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idk if i should be saying all this here or not sorry if i shouldnt x_hide

winged meteor
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Yes please make it so @inner mango can't bowspam

silver egret
pine sorrel
knotty flare
lusty portal
sullen stream
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There’s a lot of problems with the new update, I feel like it needs to be removed, and whatever idea the community liked in the beta, would be imported

knotty flare
pine sorrel
sullen stream
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OP just isn’t fun anymore, it feels like a waste of money now

fossil basin
# modern gate Mega maps with more gens is an easy fix I’ll sort that tomorrow

Add old op back so the community has the option to have what they want. Keep the new update and change as required. That way people who don’t like the new update at-least have a gameplay they can choose. 5/6years of a gameplay to be changed overnight and forced without community “approval” is what’s happened and a lot of people don’t like it. Understandably the devs have worked hard and that should be appreciated but it’s gone in the wrong way.

sullen stream
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^

solemn ivy
chilly wraith
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Prices more akin to those in the old version would be alot better especially since it's one of the main contributors to the gameplay switches

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(nothing major, since discounts with emeralds exist, but making it easier to rush and start games without dying of hunger /lh)

chilly wraith
merry sandal
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agree with all of the suggesions especially decreasing gapple price & increasing gen speed in OP. Ladders should be cheaper and available in bulk like previously. Tridents are way too OP. bring back glass, it had unique properties (impervious to ladders and spleefing), lose the crossbows and bring back bow varieties

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lower the price of TNT in OP, it's crazily expensive. Increas the speed of ladd/wall/tower builders back to what they used to be

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and make the stackable like they used to be

nimble hazel
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im chill with it as long as old mangrove comes back and the gens spawn at their original rates

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if i were to be more critiquey:
-decrease block prices
-change back to the old kb
-decrease food prices
-bring back leather armor and increase iron armor price

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i think everyone is in favor of anything that would bring the game speed back to how it originally was

inner mango
heady fulcrum
flat quiver
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i'd say just roll it back, that was the eggwars we all know and I don't know why you would fix something that wasn't broken

silver egret
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^^

frosty bridge
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#ROLLBACK

hasty robin
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The suggested changes at the top of the post are all good but I have a few suggestions:

  • To keep things consistent with layers of defense, replace wool with end stone. Wool doesn’t need a pickaxe to mine while end stone does
  • If Prot 1 is being added to enchanting shop, adding sharp 1 and power 1 also is a good idea
  • Maybe increase the price by double for mid tier armor (iron in normal/UHC and diamond in op) from 21 gold to 42 gold
maiden flame
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just give us the old shop back and implement netherite and a trident where you have to purchase emeralds with it

clever solar
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-wool should be changed to glass because ladders cant be placed on glass - making it more worth the price - and wool just feels too close to bedwars

-ladders should be cheaper

tiny cedar
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blocks are too expensive, it's hard to speedrun now, maybe op 20 iron for 40? or just 64?

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and there should be sharpness, for aspect maybe knockback, power, flame from enchantment tables

hasty robin
tiny cedar
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oh then it's fine

nimble hazel
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after playing it today my suggestion is to just completly revert back the gameplay back to how it originally was

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i geniunely dont think cubecraft could ever recover from this update even if they kept in some of the changes

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everyone loves eggwars for how it was

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it didnt need to change

desert agate
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The only thing i like about the update is the discounts u can buy with the emeralds, other than that, they should revert back to the way eggwars was prior to the update

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The new enchantments are utterly useless.

median gust
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Simple answer go back to how it was before the update the players can have fun again all the players come back to cubecraft - everyone wins

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W

tidal tapir
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Enchants

Previously, the Op mode was characterized by having enchantments on the armor, and since a new mechanic has been implemented with the enchantment tables, why not take advantage of it and add at least one protection in this mode? It would be very useful, especially with the new damage.

Generators

The beginning of the games is slow, this is mainly caused by the slow speed of the generators, especially the gold one. Why not increase its speed by at least 25%? In the rest of the game there is no problem with this, since the discount system speeds it up.

I hope these recommendations are useful to the cubecraft team!

silver egret
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^^^^ rushers and ppl that use OP have come accustomed to everything how it was before, this update is completely different and makes it impossible to finish a game in “normal” rusher time, a usual game could be 2-5 min rushing and now it’s around 12-__, it’s not enjoyable and could cause many people to leave eggwars altogether, possibly even the server

median gust
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All big W’s

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Revert back

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Simple

silver egret
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Also, when putting a completely new update (with new blocks), as mentioned prior, it would be better to incorporate those blocks with new maps, rather than changing the actual game modes, changing up lobbies or adding some new maps or Easter eggs would have such a better reception. The exploration of something new doesn’t need to be as upsetting if you keep in mind of how the community will perceive having to get used to a completely new system for a game mode that was amazing before. Many people haven’t been very keen on this update and finding a different way to include the new additions (map changes) would go by much smoother

median gust
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For real 👏

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You don’t miss đŸ€ŻđŸ«Ą

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I haven’t seen one positive response to the update from anyone at what point to the people at the top realise they’ve killed their biggest game with one update

silver egret
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They mentioned in the bedrock channel they can’t completely revert and get rid of the update, but drastically toning it down and fixing the shop would be such a god send

median gust
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Agreed but surely they can just re add what was good simply by looking at the number of players before and after the update

silver egret
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Yes 😭, I’m really hoping they listen to the players about this. Not only is it bad for the eggwars community but it’s bad for the server, so many ppl are disheartened by these changes and the drop in players will definitely do a number

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I saw on the cube forums that they ran some practice tests of the update with 50-150 players but that’s really not enough people to completely change a gamemode

median gust
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It’s not hard to hold your hands up when you know you’ve messed up cubecraft just simply have to admit that and change things back based on the feedback

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Within the limits

silver egret
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No malice or unappreciation is intended by the feedback of the people here, I know it can seem that way. This update is massive and I’m sure it took the designers/staff, etc a very long time to create and think of, but when changing something so many people find so dear to their heart and completely transforming it, it’s very hard to reply to it with acceptance and gratitude as a majority of these updates werent asked for by the vast majority of the eggwars community, most definitely not the rushers

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^^^

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Enchant should also rly be put back for OP at the very least, I understand their rare use in normal but for OP why do you need to pay for them 😭😭 and the enchantment table thing to get them seems a bit too much? It’s rly tedious to go to mid to get a table and enchant things just to rush smoothly

sharp hinge
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Its just hard to suggest stuff for this since its basically an entirely different "respawner defense" game now thar just happens to be called eggwars

silver egret
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Tbh im not quite entirely sure, I could barely play as an Xbox player bc the lag from the new lobbies as well as the overwhelming change I barely explored any maps

sweet obsidian
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Damnnnnn big W

sharp hinge
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Seems pointless to suggest stuff to try to make it more similar to how it used to be when people really just want it to be exactly how it used to be largely lol

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I think they were on to something with their ideas for emeralds

silver egret
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😭😭😭, i really don’t understand the pickaxe price change either, I understand they might need to be more expensive if you’re able to keep them throughout the entire game but 10 diamonds for a Diamond pickaxe is 7 more diamonds than needed to just craft one 😭, might as well play expensive survival atp

sharp hinge
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But really I just dont even know what to say as for the rest of the game

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Its really just a different game now lol

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Also i know this is a bit of a jab but i feel like it really speaks to the amount of care that actually went into this update by them added possibly every enchantment except the useful ones

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Like howd they even get sweeping edge on bedrock?

silver egret
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Yeah but it’s rly confusing how iron armor is less expensive than a Diamond pickaxe considering how common obi is

sharp hinge
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Impressive

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Lmaooo fr

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Tbh

silver egret
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LOL

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The issue is this isnt even the only time cube has almost lost a complete player base when it comes to a certain game mode. There have been other updates for other things (such as CTF in blockwars) where they wanted to completely revamp and change a game mode people have come to love and enjoy as it’s simple and easy current state. Enforcing something so large and different isn’t desired, especially when getting rid of the things people loved most about the game mode (as mentioned prior)

limber oasis
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Prot 2 will be better than 1 or made it so prot you get from buying armour from shop and you can upgrade to prot2 with Xemralds(op mode)

sharp hinge
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I was kinds worried that theres really a huge disconnect in how thr cube team sees bedrock eggwars and how the players do. If you look at eggwars season 1 you realize that all the stuff they added like redstone and gen downgraders was entirely useless in the fast passed game that bedrock eggwars was. Alsl if you look at the emerald update from years ago, again, all the items werent of any practical use to anyone who wasnt just goofing around. For both of these updates they pretty much just copied what they added to java and put it into bedrock. Well now were dealing with the ultimate culmination of this where cube tries to do a big update for eggwars bedrock where they seem to fundamentally completely misunderstand what actually made the game what it is, except this time instead of what their adding just not being useful, their actually "ruined" the game how it was lol

sharp hinge
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Yea

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I just really think cube dosent understand bedrock very eell unfortunately

silver egret
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As well as something my friend suggested, incorporate these updates gradually 😭😭😭, that way it’s not like “scrap the whole thing” it’s just “this wasn’t perceived well,” etc

limber oasis
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Overall update is cool and it was due

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Yeh

sharp hinge
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Lol

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Just like

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Heres a secret

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It was literally just pasted from java

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There was no test for bedrock

silver egret
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Yes

sharp hinge
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THATS WHAT I SAID

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Why are yall trying to get ideas from your desd server

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Clearly thats the one where you did something wrong

silver egret
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Past Java players are getting ptsd 😭

sharp hinge
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Makes sense the only people who play java cube now are the most diehard ogs

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Lol

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Microsoft dosent like them for some reason loo

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Im still kinda awestruck how someone added aqua affinity to eggwars and everyone was just ok with that

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How they managed to add sweeping edge to bedrock

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Like

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That just hurts my brain so much

silver egret
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Wait till eggwars season 3

knotty flare
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Aquatic has water

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Granted it is one map

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You can just not buy it

knotty flare
sharp hinge
knotty flare
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I'm part of the QA team

sharp hinge
knotty flare
sharp hinge
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I dont think there was any goal post change

knotty flare
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"There was no bedrock test"
there was
"nothing changed"

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Vastly different, but fair enough semantics

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Luke will probably go through the entire thread

sharp hinge
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Anywahs

limber oasis
knotty flare
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We're still missing all Skyblock players, and 20k is peak, 8k is the down. I don't think this is a fair comparison. Either way, I do think that the first few days after (any big) release our player count will be lower since games were crashing / some major bugs are still be fixed.

sharp hinge
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We'll see

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I doubt eggwars alone can make or break cube lol

limber oasis
sharp hinge
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Hopefully the bugs get fixed in a timely way

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Ill give cube a chance for this

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Even tho bugs arent always their strongest point lol

knotty flare
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We're going to tweak and change EggWars a bunch in the following days/weeks based on community feedback. So be sure to keep an eye out here and maybe also #đŸ„šïž±eggwars and give your own idea's so we can game to suit more types of players

sharp hinge
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Hey this could all just be seasonal

knotty flare
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Anyway, back to bugs :D

sharp hinge
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💯

knotty flare
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You too!

limber oasis
sharp hinge
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Yk now that he mentions it

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It IS wierd thst there was an open beta and nothing changed from the beta to the release??

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It rlly was just a pre release ig

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Testing is used loosely apparently

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People did play it

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People had the same complains they have now

robust canopy
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Bruh

sharp hinge
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Literally nothing changed tho

robust canopy
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I typed for so long and now it says contemt block by the server

sharp hinge
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There was a beta testing server you could join from the discord lol

robust canopy
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I cant resend it nor copy it

robust canopy
limber oasis
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Asap

robust canopy
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Then it just becomes a classic old eggwars with those tweaks(just we will be little weak)

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Riptide one dosent let you travel more then 12-15 blocks or less and there should be a cooldown

robust canopy
# modern gate Feedback

Also

  • Remove the 1iron for 2 blocks from shop and make the top 3 options of block as
  • 10 blocks for 5iron
  • 32 blocks for 16 iron
  • 64 blocks for 32 iron
    For mobile players the shop is not as fast as pc and clicking them again and again is a pain
    Similarly for the food (baked potatoes and steak)
    Give
    3 baked potatoes for 6 iron and similarly for steak
    3 steaks for (idk the iron price for steak) but the respective amount
tiny cedar
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I think op should have more items with base enchants, and some expensive items could have sharp 5 or sharp 8 or eff 10, and enchantment table should further enchant it

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or else op isn't even fun

silver egret
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The pics having better efficiency and the swords having sharpness in op was what differentiated the value of playing op rather than normal

verbal cobalt
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+1

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quasi dragon
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Ngl they should just add old OP back but keep Ultra Hardcore

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Because Hardcore is actually fun now

modern gate
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Thanks everyone for feedback so far

We will be making some changes today

verbal cobalt
verbal cobalt
modern gate
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After we've made changes to shop prices, emeralds and other mechanic changes to OP

We'll want people to play several games over weekend, and see if it feels better - and we will continue to do more tweaks if needed

sick charm
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well said

verbal cobalt
sick charm
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i miss the old eggwars mate

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it used to be fun tho

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i hope they made some changes to make the community satisfied

verbal cobalt
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we don't play

verbal cobalt
verbal cobalt
inner mango
limber oasis
fluid dew
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But where is the new shop ui go? :)

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W team btw

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Here are some of my suggestion

  • turn wall builder price to iron
  • make wall builder, ladder builder, tower builder instantly build
  • fix iron gen just need 20 iron
  • starter iron gen should have lvl 3 and iron gen broken/lvl1
  • max capacity for gold gen is 5/10/20/30
  • return base defend
  • reduce tnt price to 10 gold each
  • diamond gen from 3.75 (lvl3) > 2.5 (lvl3)
  • 1.5x price for netherite set, netherite sword and trident
  • normal should return to 5 gold
  • replace buy 1/4/32 concrete for 2/8/64
  • add damage boost if you get base killed
  • make food nutrition higher because food after updates is heal less (even with gapple)
  • if ppl is camping on top of map too long, they will slowly get damage
  • add something to return to base instantly, but it limit for 2 per game and in return it take you 1/2 health bar
  • leather set from 10 > 7 iron
  • wood sword to 6 iron
gusty quiver
somber locust
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Old gameplay

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I’m done with tridents and nether Ute but old gameplay

tiny cedar
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it is going to change soon they just say

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at least the prices

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I just hope blocks will be cheaper and let it easier to speedrun since stuff are too expensive now in op

flat quiver
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i'd say just rollback the update, this is a prime example of "don't fix something that isn't broken"

median gust
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Exactly

cedar tapir
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bring back the old eggwars

verbal cobalt
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bring back the old eggwars

somber locust
verbal cobalt
modern gate
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currently testing changes I posted in thread
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/1-20-beta-on-bedrock.347933/page-3

Might go out around 11PM UK time today - we're pushing hard on it so you get play the changes over weekend

CubeCraft Games
1.20 beta on Bedrock

Hello!

So it's out... finally.

With so many changes to our internal systems, there have been several stability issues being investigated by our developer team.

We understand once we've fixed the stability issues, it should give you a truer...

tidal tapir
verbal cobalt
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+1

verbal cobalt
tidal tapir
verbal cobalt
tidal tapir
fossil basin
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They are updating prices not really listening to most the community

maiden flame
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Please just put back the old shop like more than 50% of the people want it back

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like idk what your tryna do here

gusty quiver
maiden flame
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Old shop back = happy players and thriving community

median gust
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100%

maiden flame
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New shop = Less players more complaining and more quitters

median gust
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Spot on

maiden flame
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Its simple as that cubecraft

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dont do all these weird ass changes so many of us want it back

pastel anvil
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-Armor changes that I would like to see, with reasoning. Feel free to reply.

The old bridge from leather-chain-iron armor no longer exists, which was necessary to even the huge defense gap between iron and leather. Without that chain armor bridge, and supplemental items to assist (weakness arrows), fighting iron is now impossible in leather armor. Your best bet is to run away with slowness arrows constantly, which is fun for neither player. My suggestion is to add back chain armor in some capacity, possibly as the old gold-bought armor set, or replacing the leather armor in OP mode.

Netherrite armor should cost emeralds (or an insane amount of diamonds), as KB resistance is inherently powerful in a gamemode where you can fall and die (especially with how bedrock PVP works, combos are harder to escape). As KB resistnace acts like an enchantment, and is a straight upgrade to diamond armor, it should have a price that requires the meaningful sacrifice of other resource gathering to obtain it. It should serve as a reward for rushing, while forgoing other resources that players may be gathering in the meantime. This facilitates fast gameplay, while rewarding rushing for the best gear in the game, and rewarding defense for having more numerous options to counteract the benefits netherrite gives you.

Based on how most of the maps are designed, players are funneled onto branches of or from the middle island, which houses diamonds (and sometimes iron/gold). This makes the middle set of armor for each mode too easy to obtain, and facilitates earlygame rushing with almost no counter (since whoever can reach the gold generators first can cash out on the middle armor set and rush with a massive advantage). This problem also bleeds into map design, where certain strategies are better, or sometimes are not possible due to the constraints of what the map gives you. This makes balancing maps harder than it needs to be. Ill talk about map design later, and how it affects balance.

silver egret
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Why is a stack still 32 in all, the cost should lessen/increase per gamemode or whatever like it was before 😭 31 iron was my OP rush I can’t sit around for 41 iron just to go mid and sit around again for another 8 diamonds (a completely outrageous price)

full sun
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Revert back to before the update

silver egret
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Idm compromising but a cheap dismond pic and cheap blocks are literally essential for rusher player types, this isn’t a compromise for them

silver egret
# pastel anvil -Armor changes that I would like to see, with reasoning. Feel free to reply. Th...

^^ the chain armor bridge was useful, especially in maps like food/beach due to their mid-gold gens. You shouldn’t be stuck having to fight as leather with everyone else in iron/diam/etc. also I do agree netherite should be worth some ems as prior Diamond armor i believe was still 128 diamonds in op? I might be wrong, but taking into consideration how much better netherite is and that it costs less than the previous Diamond armor amount ? It doesn’t seem sensible

full sun
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old eggwars was perfect because every playstyle had its advantages and counters

silver egret
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Yess, every style before had their own unique branches within the shop, nothing was too expensive or unreasonable and they could do their own things throughout the game. Now, it’s more catered towards ppl that like to camp (possibly), which completely destroys the joy rusher types got from the old prices and shop

pastel anvil
silver egret
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Sometimes the risk is all the more fun Imo, having to sit around just to get a timely win isn’t really ideal for me, although I can’t speak on behalf of all rusher types, I do find my friends and I prefer rushing at the start. You get a timely win (2-5 min), you can see which better armored ppl you can win against, and if you struggle you can save up for some things before attempting to rush again. The ideal for me isn’t waiting ti get the newest coolest items, I just like doing simple things and rushing asap, which now would be at like the 10 minute mark

pastel anvil
silver egret
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The speed of a win is what ppl enjoy most, ofc some kids are upset when ppl beat them, especially in a speedy manner, but not all games are like that regardless. And if they don’t enjoy that they could try playing other modes like duos, or other games like minerware. Cube is for fun, not for tearing kids down, it’s not the intent to hurt kids feelings or belittle their enjoyment on building a massive wall around their base, but I shouldn’t have my normal play style demolished in support of promoting ems. Regardless there are still good players who could get timely wins here, that will still play despite the update and still do what they always do. Even with the em buff it wont entirely even out

pastel anvil
# silver egret The speed of a win is what ppl enjoy most, ofc some kids are upset when ppl beat...

Cube is for fun yes, but the speedy wins didn't allow new players to acclimate to the pace of the game. Maybe they want to play eggwars instead of being forced into a different game because of game speed. The fundamental design of the game favored rushing and legacy skill over any other option. Being paired with faster gens allowed rushers a constant supply of resources that defending players couldn't keep up with. Plus, your playstyle isn't demolished; you just need to approach it with more than 2 steps of thought, You never want to be fighting a fair fight, so figure out how to use the terrain and your items to your advantage, Finally, maybe the game wants to incentivize you to gather other resources instead of just gold and iron, especially with the change of emerald-costing items being moved to diamond-costing.

silver egret
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Within the time it takes to rush the new players of the game could ask their team what to do, how to play, etc. most games aren’t intended to be 10+ minutes, which is probably around the time it would take to be able to get a somewhat concrete understanding of what to do and when. They could do solos which with all the other teams there they could figure out shops, tokens, Gen speeds, etc. but there are going to be rusher types in probably all game modes, there will never be a guaranteed learning moment for the new players while in a live game, that’s unfortunately not how online playing works if there’s not a tutorial for them to learn from. With all of the available options in the shop (at least before) everyone could do their own thing, blocks were cheap so people could make giant base defenses, armor wasn’t too expensive but enough so not everyone to be rushing in iron the whole time and for the game to be annoying, defending players often go mid and accumulate the other resources, getting diam to upgrade their diam Gen and they could move from there. Rushing players could get their egg while they do that but they can still play defensive if they want to go back to their base and just put a bunch of towers to survive or something. That is already a tactic used, taking into consideration of map, void spots, etc, those are already used to players advantages that are used to the maps, which isn’t necessarily ideal to new players either. With the rusher style people still do get diamonds when needed, a better pic, better armor, etc. it’s not completely ignored or thrown aside, but it shouldn’t be necessary for every single game

gusty quiver
silver egret
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That’d be perfect for new players or ppl that like to camp, it gives them time to learn and play, there a bunch other player types that vary on a spectrum, some ppl can play a match for 30-40 minutes and other could play for 2-5. If depends on the ppl there and everyone could be happy in their own respective styles. Not all rusher games are 2-5 min, im sure not all defender wins are like 20-40 min or so, everyone has their own preferences and have to adapt between which types of players are in their games

pastel anvil
# silver egret Within the time it takes to rush the new players of the game could ask their tea...

I agree there should be a tutorial mode, would really help new players. Its just a lack of modes implemented means that players are funneled into the meat chute to be grinded up for speedy wins. No real solution except for giving accessibility features to bridge the gap between new and old players. I still believe rushing is intact, it just meshes differently with the new mechanics. People say rushing is dead because they cant sustain on dead base gens anymore but fail to see all the new OP items diamonds give you.

silver egret
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Maybe we should suggest a tutorial mode lol, it could do a lot tbh. I do agree, it’s unfair how new players are being rushed with old ones. I did think there was an option in the settings where players were assigned games based off of their level but apparently not, which could also be a really cool idea. With rushing the point is to just not have to wait around to get OP Diamond items unfortunately, sitting around to get the 25 pic or even over 45 diamonds for harder matches sometimes feels like a pain but it’s not an issue. It’s just feeling required to tweak up a playing style and collect diamonds in order to successfully rush isnt ideal nor really fun for certain playing types, it can feel tedious or lackluster

tiny cedar
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mow I just want leather armor back or maybe further reduce block price in op, before you just need 27 iron then you can already speedrun but now it's 34 or even more because blocks are expensive

untold jewel
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I fully just want the old version of eggwars for me it's completely ruined the experience that I've been playing with for 2 years and overall just a bit overwhelming all at once.

silver egret
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^^^

untold jewel
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We have the beta test npc for tests and it hasn't been used. Even tho this is eggwars I believe the same for skywars too all this new stuff is too much as well as the fact I accidently killed my teammate with TNT earlier which has never been possible

forest geode
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have the enchant shop in the regular shops

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and revert the prices

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and get rid of the emerald system

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like hypixel

tiny cedar
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I really like the new emeralds system tho, there needs to be reward for killing people, breaking the egg, and not just by camping at the centre

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plus do you know emeralds still spawn in the middle now? if you can't eliminate people or break the egg, then you can repair generators, or else it's your skill issue

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or you have other thoughts?

silver egret
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Do all game modes have to enchant in order to have enchants on their items? Like OP, normal

forest geode
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i dont like the emerald and enchant system bc i cant get anything useful; i can only buy more useless stuff

median gust
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The game is still awful

forest geode
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facts

quasi dragon
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I think they should move the new eggwars to beta games first

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And bring back the old one

median gust
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Or maybe ask the players before releasing an update that has killed their biggest game

quasi dragon
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Nobody was asking for this update

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That is the biggest issue here

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They fixed something that wasn't broken

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And now they actually broke it

median gust
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I’ve said it for years cubecraft don’t listen to us and just release updates that aren’t needed or nobody wants

quasi dragon
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We already have a dedicated lobby for betas

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It's called beta games

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Anyways I think the best change to suggest here is to move the new eggwars to beta games while keeping the old eggwars

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All these changes just seem like damage control

median gust
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I don’t get how cubecraft can have a successful fun game with thousands of players and then kill it in one update. it’s embarrassing

quasi dragon
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The thing is that these players don't want an "improved" version of the new eggwars, they just want the old eggwars back. Maybe the better strategy here is to list the things we like about this update (like crossbows and getting emeralds from kills) then keep those while reverting everything back to the old eggwars.

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For example, I like the changes to hardcore such as adding healing potions.

median gust
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The only positive for me in this update is you now get the elimination when you break an egg and the bot kills himself

cedar tapir
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bring back eggwars

limber oasis
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Eggwars is still on cubecraft?

median gust
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Old egg wars

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Since cubecraft have killed it

cedar tapir
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bring back old eggwars

heady fulcrum
heady fulcrum
fossil basin
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No removed tridents, all people use now is tridents and bows. They have completely killed op eggwars

fossil basin
# modern gate Feedback

Egg-wars was fine. If you wanted to update it you could add a game mode - (the new update) rather than completely changing the gameplay of egg-wars and forcing everyone to play it (if they want to play CubeCraft) or do vise-versa and add a “rush mode”(the old op) so the majority of the community has what it wants. About 90% of people who say the update is good are staff/partners/non-eggwars players.

Rushing has been removed completely basically. Op feels like hardcore, if you can’t/won’t do a revert then the above is my suggestion

silver egret
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I completely agree. It’s been stated by multiple ppl that actual eggwars players/ppl of certain playing styles weren’t exactly thought of when this new update came. And forcing a complete different gamemode onto an entire eggwars community isn’t fair. I do think they should’ve put this in beta games first, making new changes and removing items/prices everyone was used to is too much to inflict upon everyone without proper data. Despite having a “player test” for the update having a beta version (as seen with an old eggwars update that could’ve been released) allows for more player types, and overall players, to express how they feel with the new POSSIBLE changes before they’re forced upon everyone, seeing how ppl would react and whether they would like certain things (new hardcore mode) or dislike things (new OP mode)

sharp hinge
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ig it pretty much is a different game mode

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not like its impossible to rush in

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just harder now

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as a suggestion it would be nice if they considered adding sharpness

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bc tbh even tho all the other enchants technically have uses, theyre incredibly situation with the excpetion of prot and maybeee efficiency

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im kinda torn

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in a way it increases the skill floor for rushing, but that might not necessarily be a good thing considering the state the eggwars community ended up being lol

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i think it would be nice if more of the gens started on bc i noticed that some of them that started on previously got turned off?

fossil basin
sharp hinge
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makes it work a lot better especially in teams or mega because multiple people sitting on one gen is incredibly inefficient especially now

sharp hinge
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like on palace it used to be both the iron gens inside started as on

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now just one of them does for some reason

cedar tapir
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bring back old eggwars the new eggwars is so trash also you randomdly glitch inside walls and than u get killed by the enemy also its somewhat laggy on the new eggwars

median gust
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Bring back old egg wars

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Simple

clever solar
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wooden pickaxe in op should be 1 iron

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it would make rushes more similar to og rushing where you only get blocks and a pickaxe

merry sandal
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Make ladders available in 32 or 64

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Bare minimum fix bridging and block placement. A minecraft featured server should never have a block placement bug

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fighths are too short, it's now MUCH harder to 1v2... armour needs to be better. One of the great things about Cubecraft was that armour durabliity and eating which were, imho, the key differentiator between this server and other servers. Now it's just tap tap die.. not much skill involved. Now it's all about just avoiding fights and hoping you live long enough to get better gear

median gust
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Bring back old egg wars

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Simple

merry sandal
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they won't do that tho

tiny cedar
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leather armor 4 iron too in op

clever solar
inner mango
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and i would like to see the new op mode changed to reflect more of the old op mode, where it was just normal but everything is more powerful and cheaper. I would also prefer prot 4 leather armor over iron as the base since it negated most fall damage and, as said before, increases fight duration, brings durability back in the game, and food becomes a strategic item.

merry sandal
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Even ladders don't work properly.. some basic testing with laddering up something will show that sometimes ladders just don't place.. basic stuff tbh for a block game server

inner mango
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^the update was released a week too early

merry sandal
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a month too early given the enormous amout of bugs

inner mango
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after preaching that it was taking a long time because they wanted a perfect release, they probably should have waited a month

merry sandal
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Cube should also probably employ people to advise them on what people actually want in games, eg people that actually play the game on a regular basis

inner mango
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i dont think thatd work since itd be too small of a sample size

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i think they should have in-game surveys for new features however

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like every game ever has after an update

merry sandal
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They had an eggwars focus group previously.. lots of regualr eggwars players in it.. then just shut it down without warning

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TBH it's just basic AB testing.. add something, if people like it keep it otherwise remove it.. repeat. over time you get a product (game) that people actually like.

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and thats not my idea, it's very widely accepted practice now in building stuff that people want

clever solar
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you cant satisfy everyone

merry sandal
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Who said you could?

clever solar
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people are gonna complain if the update is reverted and people are gonna complain if the update isnt reverted

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its also really hard to find out what the average player wants cuz cubecraft hasnt done any ingame polls

sharp hinge
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Fall damage being a non issue made it very fun and unique

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It does feel like eggwars is a very basic version of this sort of gamemode now

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Especially with the fight lengths being how they are lol

quasi dragon
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Anyways can I suggest that golden carrots be added back and a bulk purchase option for ladders be added

clever solar
quasi dragon
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I mean for eggwars. Not the change to 1.19

quasi dragon
clever solar
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the update put it in good direction

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they just need to rebalance it

clever solar
sharp hinge
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Better then spending 11 months making it worse

median gust
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Bring back old egg wars

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Simple

quasi dragon
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Anyways can I suggest that golden carrots be added back and a bulk purchase option for ladders be added

quasi dragon
robust canopy
fossil basin
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Oh, you mean rushing? I was talking more of mega. Rushing 4’s 2’s solo’s is still easy in party’s

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If that’s what you meant

robust canopy
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Yh

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Idk I don't play mega

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But this is the game I just played without a party

robust canopy
fossil basin
robust canopy
fossil basin
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Party of 3/4. Depends on the game and who I play with etc

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Solo games are 10min +

robust canopy
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I mean I have played it after the update and I got a 8-10 mins game with 4-5 PPL in party

fossil basin
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Yeh

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Solo mega games are 10min +

robust canopy
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So if u get a full party it should be ez

fossil basin
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Yeh but the community dead now tbh

robust canopy
fossil basin
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My point was more the fact of solo mega games times have risen. A full 10man party is easy under 5min but it’s more what you play I guess

carmine lantern
clever solar
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still better than nothing

carmine lantern
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enchant

cedar tapir
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bring back old eggwars the new egg wars is so trash like why would u destroy it what where yall thinking BIG L

clever solar
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literally the reason seasons were made

tender agate
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add golden carrots!

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healing is super slow even in over powered if someone had a pickaxe then you would be easily get killed espically with more members

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in the team

merry sandal
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if you are keeping Tridents in the game Cubecraft, please make them NOT open the shop or generators

inner mango
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^also blocks although they always opened the shop

quasi dragon
clever solar
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seasons were made over a year ago if you didnt like it you shouldve complained about it then

quasi dragon
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The problem isn't seasons

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It's the unnecessary eggwars changes

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Seasons don't necessitate changes nobody asked for

limber oasis
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Make gens start before match cuz it's hard to get good amount of blocks at starting

hexed estuary
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Why dont you do when you buy armor then you die you will get the armor so no need to buy again everytime

open karma
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Get the old prices back + the old EggWars op

hexed estuary
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And when you kill someone you get the ores he had like diamond and gold and emerlads and iron like this

robust canopy
robust canopy
hexed estuary
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Bedwars

clever solar
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if you want to play bedwars go to a server that has bedwars

sharp hinge
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Gens starting before the match could be nice

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Would just speed up the slow start some people are complaining about and wouldnt effect the rest of the game

clever solar
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dont gens already do that

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when i land on the iron gen it has like 13 iron already there

sharp hinge
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Hm

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Tbh they might

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Kinda annoying tho that they disabled so many gens ig is all

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Would be nice to at least be able to quickly get a sword now that armor has protection built in

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Dosent matter much tho

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Just that i might have to change the rush strat again if its too annoying to kill an iron armor guy eith a wood pic

hexed estuary
clever solar
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have you heard of nethergames before

inner mango
clever solar
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lifeboat not doing too great is it

carmine lantern
hexed estuary
inner mango
hexed estuary
inner mango
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emeralds are your kill rewards

hexed estuary
carmine lantern
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only on elimination

inner mango
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more kill rewards will only make the best players stronger

hexed estuary
inner mango
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kill*

cedar tapir
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is there a way to get a refund from cubecraft eggwars so trash

clever solar
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no

cedar tapir
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damn tuff

robust canopy
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Eggwars suggestions V2

  • Make miner kit to have unbreaking 2 or 3 (Reason: when you just rush with blocks its difficult to team wipe because the pickaxe breaks.) ||Alternate solution: Make kit to have a stone pickaxe but with efficiency 2 to match the mining speed with the present one.||
  • Revert back the change of being able to left click to open the shop or add an option for it. (Reason: I don't want to open shop again and again while first fighting someone one my 1st rush especially when the WOODEN pickaxe breaks.)
  • Make ladders to be purchaseable in stacks like 8 or 16. (Reason: We buy ladders when someone is skybasing or building high up like 32-64 blocks and I don't want to buy ladder one by one and click 64 times or more.)
  • Add some benefits for pushing and rushing. (Reason: I read it on update board but I don't see it now. Wonder what you were planning for. Also this would make game campers to actually rush and not wait until they get netherite armour.)
  • Add weather options as an vote system (Reason: Riptide trident enchantment. Please don't get rid that enchantment I love it but u just need to be able to make it rain so you don't have to change every single map to have water. Add trident cooldown, use height limit to avoid getting over advantage.)
  • Favorites menu: Well with this new 1.20 update we have to play with different strategies for every single map to have fast games but the favourites menu is limited with 8-10 items not exactly sure but u have to scroll a lot when you have more things set in your favourites menu which sometimes leads to accidental purchases especially on mobile. So let players add more favorites items AND make the favorites menu UI so that we can see more options in one page itself instead of scrolling. THE BETA SHOP UI will be pretty good but just for the favorites menu because most of the players didn't like it it seems so it never made out to the main network.)
    To be continued see down, being rate limited
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CONTINUATION

  • Undo purchases: idk if this feature is still there or it got removed but if it is make it so that it's on top of the favourite menu so in case of accidental purchases we don't have to search for it. (Reason: Its also an alternative thing you can do instead of favorites menu UI.) If this doesn't exist then bring it back.

Something new???
||- I have been thinking to add purchaseable mystery boxes 🎁 in eggwars especially for megas to speed it up but it can also be added to all eggwars gamemodes. Basically this will be giving you random vanilla items which can be anything op or complete trash it's based on luck. This is so that players will think how can they use the items to win the game which will add more FUN into the games.
For example: I purchased a mystery box for 2 gold, I open it and I got a fishing rod and I try to kill players with that.

  • Give extra rewards if egg is broken under one minute or 1.5 mins(food blocks swords or something like that upon eggbreak).
  • Random crazy idea - Add creeper spawn eggs XD.||
    || @modern gate ik you won't miss this but still in case. Also tell me your opinions about this plssss :D||

~ O1t24277

carmine lantern
inner mango
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revert to previous eggwars state

full sun
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Revert the generator prices the current ones make no sense

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And remove netherite and tridents

quasi dragon
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Add golden carrots and add a bulk purchase option for ladders

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Also activate all broken generators. This won't be OP, it'll just speed up the game

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And maybe make them 50% faster

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Again, if this is for everyone, it'll make the game faster

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Maybe only do this if it's OP

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If normal or UHC, maybe not

knotty flare
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Keep in mind that faster gens also means faster more expensive stuff. If diamonds are faster, people will have the best stuff faster as well

limber oasis
knotty flare
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Is that too little as a start? Do you also think the gens are too slow throughout the game? Because if you think it's fine, but should have more on start we can just have them start earlier so all gens are on max capcity on start instead

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And with you, I mean everyone ofc 🙂

limber oasis
limber oasis
limber oasis
robust canopy
quasi dragon
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They made resources much scarcer while making things more expensive

carmine lantern
limber oasis
nova hawk
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remove cake inflation

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should be 10 iron

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and can chests actually break properly (they dont drop the item anymore)

cedar tapir
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bring back old eggwars

modern gate
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Thoughts?

Eff 3 pickaxes in OP
Eff 1 pickaxe in normal

inner mango
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eff 3 seems a little much

modern gate
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it used to be 2 in normal and 8 in OP to my knowledge

Goal is to help speed current game up a bit

robust canopy
inner mango
modern gate
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shop ones

inner mango
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I would rather the prices be dropped so it's easier to get a better pickaxe than buff all pickaxes

robust canopy
# modern gate shop ones

It was eff 2 for wood, stone and iron and diamonds one hadd 5, 7or8 12 with diamonds and emerald(if I'm correct)

But adding efficiency 3 to shop pickaxes make no difference with the miner kit ones!

inner mango
inner mango
robust canopy
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In my opinion
Eff 2 in op mode (eff 3 with enchantment)
Eff 1 in normal mode (eff 2 with enchantment)

robust canopy
robust canopy
inner mango
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I think the worst pickaxe should only be 1 iron

clever solar
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wood pickaxe no eff 1 iron

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means you always spawn with a weapon

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and rushes are faster

inner mango
carmine lantern
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except hardcore

carmine lantern
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pov you try to break a block with wood pick

clever solar
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its faster than hand

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and deals more damage

carmine lantern
clever solar
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i shortened my rush down to just blocks so a pickaxe would make it a little better at least

carmine lantern
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same but i was already doing it before update with a real pick

inner mango
carmine lantern
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I understand why it got nerfed

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thats real eggwars

inner mango
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5 gold pick was the best

clever solar
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they should bring back the 0 iron ghost block rush it made the game intense

carmine lantern
inner mango
carmine lantern
clever solar
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i cant find the video it was deleted i think

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but it was pretty much builder kit, bridge into a generator, and use the ghost block to go anywhere

carmine lantern
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I hate deleted things (eve)

carmine lantern
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that bug abuse

clever solar
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yes it was

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but only if youre caught

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(it was over 2 years ago)

carmine lantern
inner mango
hasty robin
tender agate
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emeralds are useless in duels eggwars!

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you could only get 4

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i meant 3 since the last one would end the game

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so you are forbidden to use the emerald upgrades

clever solar
inner mango
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you could also get swift sneak^

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although idek if that does anything

limber oasis
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Bcz the shop pick needs efficiency

limber oasis
# modern gate shop ones

Eff 2 was balanced before not to op or not to slow but bcz concrete takes longer to break(as what I have noticed)yes eff 3 is good

hasty robin
round granite
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maybe make a different gamemode around the old eggwars stuffs. prolly wont work though.

inner mango
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not enough players

limber oasis
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Make the pickaxe cheaper please

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Like 5 iron for stone

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Wood one is bad

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2 iron wof

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Wood*

vast nebula
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bring back the old kb, prices and generators. dont change the base game imo just add the new features if you want but goddamn yall changed everything about the game.

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I think thats where the criticism comes from, aside from the bugs afcourse. The new features are great but need nerfing like the netherite armor. New emerald use is 5/5 and i doubt anyone cares about that one since emeralds were practically useless before the update imo.

mighty reef
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Blocks should become cheaper and netherite shouldn't exist. Those are the main two things I dislike and I think more of the community would return if those changes happened

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There aren't enough players (on Java) to split off eggwars into a legacy version so that is just not possible

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I like discounts and some enchantments are a great addition. Although many are useless

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Before netherite was a thing you still had a pretty large chance to win if you were in a bad position by the end of the game. By playing it smart and attempting to trap or combo/push the other player into the void. But with netherite comes 0 kb, making that very difficult

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Blastballs are a thing, yes. But they are really not that useful in my experience unless the player on the recieving end is very stupid

mighty reef
hasty robin
unreal pond
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it's 8 dia, just learn to use it

unreal pond
round granite
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weird

mighty reef
mighty reef
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You should try crying a little less when argumenting and maybe you'd be taken more seriously

unreal pond
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bridge fighting has nothing to do with having a lot of blocks

unreal pond
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you couldn't kill people with bad loot lol, there wasn't bad loot

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prot 4 leather and gaps, and you couldn't die unless someone had sharp 5

unreal pond
unreal pond
mighty reef
mighty reef
mighty reef
inner mango
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nether rite armor is broken

unreal pond
unreal pond
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but you still can

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idk

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it's fun

unreal pond
mighty reef
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The challenge is the fun part. You got a lot of adrenaline from overcoming those odds and managing to either grind down the other player with good loot or by outsmarting them

unreal pond
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diamonds

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it's too good for just what it is now

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oh

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nether sword gone for hardcore and OP

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pls

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it can be like sharp 5 in OP before

mighty reef
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It is more important to remove it from normal where there is leather armor

unreal pond
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extra one there

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oh

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yh

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I meant normal

mighty reef
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You can take two sorties to middle and get one

unreal pond
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remove from hardcore and normal

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and cost more in OP

mighty reef
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👍

full sun
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Make obsidian to cost gold again and add back enchanted picks and bows to the regular shop

clever solar
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there are bows

prisma sequoia
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One suggestion I have is for cube to bring something like a ranked mode with old eggwars so that rushers can enjoy fast games while also making it more challenging, and keep the current eggwars for people who enjoy it

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Just an idea

hasty robin
full sun
hasty robin
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I didn’t check the price in a while

somber locust
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Just make a beta version

carmine lantern
hasty robin
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Yeah it is

hasty robin
carmine lantern
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anyway pick still cost 8 iron

hasty robin
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It’s why I start the game with miner

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Decent pickaxe at the start, better one later on if someone decides to get debris or obby

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Efficiency 2 wood in Normal and 5 in OP

carmine lantern
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its making block kit useless

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you have to choose bewtween gap and pick

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i will always use block kit

hasty robin
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Gaps got “nerfed” with the 1.19 update. They don’t feel as strong as they used to

carmine lantern
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they feel better for me

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I mean more op not better

hasty robin
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Ok

sharp hinge
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All you need is one that can break concrete and one that can break obsidian in a reasonable time

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8 iron for a pic when it used to be 1 is pretty big tho yk

silver egret
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These prices are absolutely ridiculous omg

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There is no way a genuine person that plays eggwars, of any playing style okayed these

inner mango
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yeah I do think some of the prices need to be rebalanced

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and I think there must be a 4th armor option

mighty reef
inner mango
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yeah but no one plays java anyway

sharp hinge
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Java cant even get a full game of eggwars lol

inner mango
mighty reef
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And Java is pretty dead sadly. Besides optimisation I believe it is better than bedrock, but I know there are a lot of people who will disagree with that.

silver egret
# inner mango yeah I do think some of the prices need to be rebalanced

I Can understand wanting to make things more expensive but a stone pickaxe going from 1 iron to 18 iron in OP is insane dude 😭. I like before when the prices of items differed within the game modes (gradually less expensive from Hardcore, normal to OP) bc It made more sense. And why would you want a wooden pickaxe???? 32 for blocks in OVERPOWERED is so dumb. Like idk I feel like a lot of these prices are rly unreasonable

inner mango
knotty flare
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bedrock has better optimization than java
That's what they said yes

knotty flare
mighty reef
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Yeah you can still get full games fs

sharp hinge
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Must have unlucky time

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When i play java randomly all the teams have 2 people max and thwres 2-3 teams only

carmine lantern
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people just play bedwars on java (other server)

silver egret
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Are they going to do anything abt bugging into blocks ?

round granite
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dude fr

silver egret
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I literally lost an egg match bc I got stuck in the new mangrove and got killed by a whole team while rushing as a final 😭

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And I’ve experienced it in ctf too, with map blocks and blocks placed by players (like bridges)

lusty portal
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Its pretty annoying tbh

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Dying and keeping the pickaxes i think its a broken mechanic, someone that you killed and have a diam pickaxe to hit you as soon as they spawn and you cannot have enough time to heal and cover yourself to get the egg bc they already have a pickaxe

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My idea would be to downgrade the pickaxe every time you get killed e.g. Someone with a diam pickaxe dies and goes to iron, and if they die they go to stone, stone to wood and then wood to nothing

hasty robin
carmine lantern
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Just reduce pick price and don't respawn with it

knotty flare
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I think either idea has something nice to it. But I wouldn't know how we could explain it to a player. The kit idea we could just put it in chat but then you'll have two messages each time which is a bit odd I think. The downgrading is massively complicated to explain well. Honestly, at this point I might just suggest removing keeping them alltogether, token count went up. Should be fine

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But idk, by the time I die my egg is gone so idk how much is was actually liked

sharp hinge
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I always just instinctively end up buying a new pic anyways lol

carmine lantern
pastel anvil
lusty portal
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The saturation and healing its a little odd too, i was in a game yesterday full food bar and 1 1/2 healt down, not healing at all

lusty portal
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Plus it makes the pickaxe kit useless at this point, the main point of the kit is to always have it, and there is a cooldown too, having a pickaxe everytime you die is way to op imo

pastel anvil
lusty portal
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Why it has to be like other servers? Ig something that was a nice characteristic of cube was the terracota and dying and if you die you have to buy stuff again

pastel anvil
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i suppose they did it to cater to new players to make it easier for them to regain their composure after death, sure, copying some game mechanic from another server isn't original, but it still has roots in improving the game design for new players.

pastel anvil
lusty portal
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Its also okay to die in that gamemode, not bc you die you are gonna get rewards all the time, when you die in a survival you instantly get the keep inventory true to dont feel demotivated after dying?

pastel anvil
lusty portal
silver egret
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You’re not going to gain certain survival skills under worse circumstances if you’re given an automatic leg up the entire time, what happens when you do other game modes and you can’t manage to stay alive bc you don’t know how to survive without certain things ?

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Player types have learned how to adapt to the old gamemode just fine, new ppl cant do that?

lusty portal
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If not make it like ctf, everytime you die you get exactly all the things to fight again

pastel anvil
# silver egret You’re not going to gain certain survival skills under worse circumstances if yo...

If you put yourself at a disadvantage to an "automatic leg up" a 10th of the size of the leg up you have on them already, you deserve to lose that fight. Also, what do other gamemodes have to do with this gamemode's balance? Learning Eggwars survival skills depends on this game only, and what the game has designed to give the player on respawn. If the player can't learn what to do on respawn when they are being rushed, then it is on them. The game is clear enough on how respawning works and what you are given on respawn (except telling you that your pickaxes are saved on respawn), so the developers don't need to "teach" the player more then they are already doing. This game is designed around facilitating aggressive play, so I believe that giving a defensive benefit is beneficial for the overall gameplay experience, as to not favor rushing too much.

pastel anvil
# silver egret Player types have learned how to adapt to the old gamemode just fine, new ppl ca...

I dont think its an issue of new players unable to adapt to the fast pace of the old gamemode. I attribute it to the lack of viability of other play styles, when compared to rushing. Plus, the speed at which people could rush at took on almost no risk. This was due to a combination of generator speed and capacity, along with cheap shop prices. The speed of a game got to a point where on occasion, a game could finish before a new player has even learned the basic mechanics of the game. This was detrimental to the new player experience, and I believe that the changes they are making to the gamemode are beneficial for the longevity of the game.

mighty reef
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Pickaxes are fine as they are

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You rush multiple players or build yourself in with ancient debris. And you will get the egg anyways

lusty portal
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I dont share you guys opinion but i respect it

sharp hinge
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Because frankly the average person on eggwars or cube in general just dosent work as efficiently and skillfully as players from say hive or galaxite or a lot of non featured servers

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Besides, eggwars isnt some kind of unique game in concept, the games with shops and generators and a thing to defend are essentially as known and common among minecraft players as skywars is

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And for what its worth, the pickaxes staying when you die are a lot more helpful for rushing then they are being defensive

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Either way it hardly makes a difference tho honestly

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The game is so anti camp after the update now for it to even matter

carmine lantern
silver egret
# pastel anvil If you put yourself at a disadvantage to an "automatic leg up" a 10th of the siz...

Ig you’re speaking in reference to the pic update which i don’t mind tbh, I do agree that it can be annoying but if you die everytime it’s definitely a you problem. Some ppl prefer to branch out to actually learn how to play skillfully, granted different tactics are used for different gamemodes but it could help with pvp, learning to save yourself in certain situations etc. ofc not everyone does this but from personal experience learning how to play with a harder challenge (ex rushers) you can learn to stop them or defend better over time the more you experience it. That’s how many experienced ppl nowadays learned before. That’s called adapting 😭, so idk it feels contradictory to your other msg. Ofc it takes a bit to learn a skill but if you take the time or thought to learn then it won’t be as frustrating to be rushed. I’m not saying the developers but I kinda mean the players themselves ? I’m not rly sure how to word it lol, but learning thru experience is the best way to learn how to adapt to certain circumstances (hard players, being rushed, etc). I think the pickaxe thing is fine but maybe downgrading it as mentioned before could be better bc it feels like it makes more sense to me but idk, the main issue I have is with the shop change, idm if things need to be more expensive for a slightly longer start but needing to get 68 iron to rush seems like overkill

silver egret
# pastel anvil I dont think its an issue of new players unable to adapt to the fast pace of the...

I dont necessarily agree but I do get your point. But during this time they could go mid and get obi to give them some more time to learn? Ofc some ppl rush with Diam picks (before) but eggwars isn’t too complex (as stated by someone below) and it shouldn’t take you like 46 hrs in egg to Learn Imo. I could see the issue for some players for a like 2 minute game but a 10 minute game average isn’t rly fun, these prices are ridiculous in comparison to the gens, especially 30 to start a broken one? I can’t rly see that being fun for any player types, even new ones

pastel anvil
# silver egret Ig you’re speaking in reference to the pic update which i don’t mind tbh, I do a...

Adaptation is a learning factor that can be affected by a game’s age. When a game comes out, it isn’t common place to have figured out the most optimal strategies. Some people have the ability to figure out such knowledge quickly, but for most players, they don’t know or don’t care. As the game becomes older, established strategies become more common place, even though cube craft has always had a large number of new players. These strategies became common place enough, where it was affecting new players. Sure, people could always use these strategies, but it wasn’t so often you found someone employing them.

People also get better as time moves on, so the average skill of a player increased, as establish strategies and legacy skill were rewarded with fast games and a win. Even as one of those skilled players, it could be tough to defend a rusher almost every single game.

Yet, many players don’t want to get better, up to the point where these strategies becomes instinct to them. And having to adjust to a pace which might be impossible for some players to keep up at, I see as a failure of the game’s design. Some players being locked out of a chance to win, due to the inability to adapt, reduces the new player counts. I’m not even sure if I would want to play old cube craft if I was a new player.

I think the shop prices are fine, as they now impose a risk onto the player if they want to rush. They have to forgo potentially valuable tools if they want to break eggs early. As opposed to before, where they could break an egg, get a final, and snowball with the old, buffed generators, getting leagues more resources on offense than you would get defending.

I do think that repairing generators is a bit expensive, but I believe it’s fair in the long term advantage it gives you, especially on Maps without every resource in mid. Its a question of whether you are anticipating to defend a rusher if you decide to upgrade your generators. Otherwise, I never see it as worth.

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Its great to have a proper discussion without arguments, so thanks.

inner mango
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tldr?

pastel anvil
# inner mango tldr?

none. this isn’t a novel where you can flip to the back of the book. every point listed is important to the discussion.

inner mango
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i see what it is

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players shouldnt be given loot on respawn other than kit

clever solar
pastel anvil
# silver egret I dont necessarily agree but I do get your point. But during this time they coul...

I find that nobody wants to rush now, or does not feel like they are incentivized to. This could be due to playstyle, or input device, or other such factors. I am the one who keeps the games ending, I found. Games would last half an hour otherwise, since people just camp at their base because they don’t know any better or can’t compete. This is why I want a ranked mode, or challenge queue fixed, to have a more even playing field for everybody.

inner mango
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contrary, i havent found a game where others arent trying to get kills

pastel anvil
silver egret
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I do think a ranked mode with the old eggwars could be a viable and satisfactory option for rusher types or ppl that miss the old eggwars, or possibly even just making like the options to vote for old op, new op, etc (although it might be too much tbh) but Idrk. I do think the prices and gens need to be tinkered with again but who knows

pastel anvil
silver egret
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Yeah it could be cool for cube to make additional things, something that worries me tho is the lag/bugs with all these things they’re doing tho. With this new 1.20 update I’ve crashed at least once everytime I’ve played cube, and the block glitch thing is awful 😭

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Idk if anyone else has ever felt like they add more before fixing common bugs/weird lag I mean I’ve always been laggy on cube (wifi issues as well as being an Xbox player). Ofc they want to keep their server interesting and somethings are cool/fun to update with but idrk

pastel anvil
sharp hinge
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Certainly a unique take for a pvp game

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And i dont mean just for cube or bedrock or even minecraft lmao

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Everyone has the same exact opportunites every single game, theres no leveling up stats or anything like that

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If you dont wanna learn a game against other players that might be better then you then thats totally fine, dosent mean the developers should baby new players for this reason

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But again either way tbh the pic staying or not is so insignificant it rlly dosent matter either way lol

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Thinking about it now ig it makes the miner kit basically useless so theres that reason to get rid of that feature maybe

pastel anvil
# sharp hinge If you dont wanna learn a game against other players that might be better then y...

I do agree with this. However, most people I find who play this game are children and teens who would be more susceptible to being emotionally driven about people better than them. I just think its an unfortunate circumstance for the more mature player base to take a back seat to the less mature audience. This is a pretty "casual" game compared to many others I have played over the years so I see why they are taking the game in this direction.

sharp hinge
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Eh

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Some kids got pretty damn good at fortnite lmao

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But ig i get what you mean

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Being hosted on such a casual platform like minecraft it kinda is a big jump when people who arent used to people taking minecraft pvp games seriously join in

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But this isnt really a problem exclusive to eggwars

pastel anvil
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they need to find a good balance with both parties, casual and hardcore fans. more polls/communication would do the trick

carmine lantern
silver egret
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Yes

sharp hinge
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They should make the regen like how it used to

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💯

lusty portal
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Yes 👏

inner mango
sharp hinge
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I notice it way more then the kb being different tbh

clever solar
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i only saw gapples take longer to eat

sharp hinge
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That too

knotty flare
sharp hinge
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Yea

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They should make the regen like how it used to

frosty bridge
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Rollback everything

carmine lantern
somber locust
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Beta version

carmine lantern
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its perfect

carmine lantern
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but well 11 months

somber locust
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Beta version!!!

tender agate
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make the prices more different from a gamemode to another just like in the past

sharp hinge
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people need to die faster

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or idk

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i think netherite is just a bit op

silver egret
sharp hinge
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and things like tnt and picaxes are way too expensive

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on op

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and armor

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im just really having a hard time giving eggwars a chance anymore

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team modes are overall just really bad now

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netherite fights and 30 minute games just arent fun

mighty reef
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Diamond gens shouldn't drop two diamonds per cycle

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It is too strong

inner mango
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a few things

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obsidian is only slightly better than ancient debris at a huge price increase

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without the prot 2 enchant, netherite armor provides less protection than diamond at a huge price increase

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netherite only reduces knockback with full netherite

tender agate
inner mango
tender agate
inner mango
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???

rocky storm
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.

clever solar
somber locust
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Beta version!!!!!

honest yarrow
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Please get rid of spawning with the pick axe

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Ruins the flow of the game

blazing dew
mighty reef
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Downgrading pickaxes upon death would be better

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It is not really difficult to get enough ancient debris to cover yourself if you have upgraded gens

carmine lantern
mighty reef
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In normal it might take a little while but most 4s maps have 2 gold gens on the island and if you max those it will spawn gold very fast

carmine lantern
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another idea would be that you cant use your pickaxe for your 10 second of invincibility

carmine lantern
mighty reef
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But on a controller it could be a different experience for sure

carmine lantern
mighty reef
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The reason why I think they added respawning with pickaxes is so people can't block players in and stop them from escaping which I think is a good change.

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So you are not screwed if someone pulls up in netherite and you have nothing cause you just died

carmine lantern
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but wat if you dont buy pickaxe

carmine lantern
mighty reef
honest yarrow
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so if a pickaxe is so cheap, why not just not spawn back with it then?

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whats the point of saying its not a grind then cutting out part of the grind

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makes no sense to me

mighty reef
honest yarrow
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I have never and have never been blocked in when I’ve spawned

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Plus what if you didn’t buy a pickaxe before? Still stuck so


inner mango
mighty reef
mighty reef
honest yarrow
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So instead of rushing someone, you’d rather block them in than just get the egg? Why slow the game so much?

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I’ve never seen someone blocked in on their own island from spawn before, so you must be the only one with this methodđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

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Personally I’d just get the egg and kill them after

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Egg rushing is way more prominent now aswell due to getting 3 emeralds when the eggs broke

mighty reef
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It is for when you rush more than one person mainly

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I play quick games

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And obviously when they have ancient debris or more

honest yarrow
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But why block them in, could just get the egg and then kill them after, no respawn? Much easier and 5 emeralds just for doing it

mighty reef
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It depends on a lot of different things of course

carmine lantern
round granite
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they’re fixing their k/d ratio

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they stall the game till you either leave or they get bored

limber oasis
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I was just watching some eggwars duos gameplay.
Something that the guy was doing was rushing with the miner kit pickaxe and I have seen many people do first rush with miner kit,I too used to rush with miner kit pickaxe but before it was a stone pickaxe which don't break in the first rush even if they have a bit of armour and there are multiple people but the wood pick has very less durability and it breaks if you use it to rush .
So i was thinking of it and I got a decent idea which can fix the problem with pickaxe breaking.
I wonder if you can do it so miner kit gives a efficiency 4 stone pickaxe instead of wood pick. It would make so pickaxe is not too overpowered and it dosent break even if you use it as weapon for first rush

clever solar
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what if it just had unbreaking

limber oasis
carmine lantern
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Remember efficiency 10 wood pick?

mighty reef
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Redstone should come back sometime each year. I want to make flying machines

fluid dew
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Gold base gen will be disable until they go to mid

inner mango
fluid dew
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Nah so u want camper to be rifch?

inner mango
fluid dew
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Rush mid 💀

inner mango
carmine lantern
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atleast on magic

fluid dew
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U having same idea with me

carmine lantern
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people sleeping on gen for iron swrd while you rush with litteraly 10 block

fluid dew
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True

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And when u rush last base, they had iron + iron sword + ancient debris defend

carmine lantern
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and respawn with pick

mighty reef
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remove netherite already

merry sandal
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pleeeeease fix bridging... you' ve had bug report. it's just such an annoying bug

silver egret
inner mango
knotty flare
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Don't look straight down, and one other thing and you should be fine

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It is logged, and being worked on

clever solar
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its when you quick swap right when you ran out of blocks in the original slot

knotty flare
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Yeah that's the one

merry sandal
# inner mango whats wrong with it

While looking down, Jump, Place, Sprint... normally u god bridge.. but since the update it way too often cuts out, especially over water

sharp hinge
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Ive never had it cut out recently

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Idk

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Only like one time

silver egret
rich flame
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When a franchise raises the costs of their products and then puts a discount to make the customer think they’re getting something for a lower price, that’s basically what this update is, making us use the discounts on criminal shop prices is insane

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If the admins actually play the game and realize how many bugs there are how it was before, it would be like the Efcluke person playing duels and changing the floor to make it possible to use the flint n steel, it would be the same with admins playing and seeing the bugs and actually doing something about them

rich flame
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Raising the prices is such a weird solution without studying the game or the enviroment, or asking what the ppl wants, its an unilateral decision, and the ppl who suffer are the players, ofc there can be an increase in "numbers" but the ppl who complain arent listen and those "numbers" are neither ask nor listened, why raisiong the prices and adding a fake sensation of discount }

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At the end of the day, the ppl who is actually playing the game is speaking that this update was a lot and unnecessary, if the admins or moderators or whatever acually play the game, why sky rocket the prices was to begin with a "solution" or an "update" if this changes fit into the definition

clever solar
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the prices changed to make it a slower start and a faster finish, they didnt skyrocket

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especially since on op tokens are doubled for no reason

mighty reef
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Either double tokens or cheaper prices

carmine lantern
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every other thing is cheaper

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it should be contrary

silver egret
carmine lantern
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op armor now

silver egret
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And everything else-? Blocks, food, pickaxes, weapons

carmine lantern
carmine lantern
silver egret
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40 gold for 8 gaps

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Which is how it would’ve been before but 5 for 25 is sm better

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But they completely changed everything from before for no apparent reason

carmine lantern
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there a time it was 10 gold 5 gap

silver egret
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I dont remember that at all but 40 for 8 gaps is stupid they should have it the way it was before

carmine lantern
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it make gap kit better

silver egret
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Not really bc you can still buy gaps for cheap and the discount makes it even easier to buy a lot but it’s impractical to have to save up for 40 gold just to not die especially if you’re getting rushed

carmine lantern
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kit only useful at start of the game you can get everything by buying them

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so its kinda better for gap kit

carmine lantern
silver egret
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Yes the gap kit is helpful but I’m referring to long term 😭 and with this new kb and the stamina (idk what it’s called but the rate in which food goes down is sm faster now). It’d just be better if they made the bundle gap trade thing the same as before

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Ofc the gap kit is useful and if you can survive the whole game solely on those three gaps good for you but it’s still better to have extra

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For a normal price

carmine lantern
pastel anvil
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With saturation being harder to increase and maintain in general, golden apples are much more valuable now. They are one of the only foods that can be eaten when full on food. This way, you can "stockpile" saturation in a way you can't with other foods. Since the food bar only drains when the saturation value reaches 0 (max is 20, just like food), you can reach 20 saturation by eating 3 gapples. You can't do the same with steak unless you are at 0 food and hunger, and why would you ever want to be in that position in the first place? You can keep sprinting and regenerate health for longer, and it would be a nightmare to deal with if they have better armor than you. I think the higher prices are fine on gapples, as they are a result of the game's changing design on pvp. No more protection 4 exists, and fights are decided more on who dies first, not whoever stockpiled more gapples/armor. Losing to the dude who "wasted" more time gathering resources than playing the game isn't fun. Putting the onus of winning based on player skills feels much more satisfying than playing gold/diamond tycoon.

knotty flare
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You need two steak to do it. Steaks gives 12, I think gaps give 9.8 or some nonsense. You can just eat a steak and one gap. This had always been the case, before you just had ages to gap in fight; now you have less and think a bit about it.

Also, I feel like fights have always been decided by who dies first tbh 😓

silver egret
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Just put the gaps as they were before for the larger bundle, they’re literally the exact same price as before I think except now it’s 40 for 8 instead of 25 for 5 like why was that even changed 😭

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The larger bundle doesn’t stop ppl from buy gaps it just makes it more tedious, it’s annoying to have to save up to get a bundle when you could buy it sm faster before as 25 and 40 gold are v different, especially with the new gold gens. It doesn’t rly make sense

knotty flare
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As in; sell them per 5 again? So you can buy the bigger batch quicker?

mighty reef
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You can get gaps really easily in OP. So I don't see why the price should become less

knotty flare
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That's not what they're asking

silver egret
carmine lantern
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Fr

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5 gap not 8

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Idk why 8

sharp hinge
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Not sure i agree on that part

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But the fact you die so much quicker with iron makes gaps a lot more important then ever now

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So

pastel anvil
# sharp hinge I kinda noticed that if your a bit hungrry and eat a gap instead of a steak you ...

Thats because steaks restore 12.8 saturation, while gapples restore 9.6 saturation. This makes steak have 20.8 "saturation" units worth of use, while gapples only give 13.6 "saturation" units worth. This means that steak is better at restoring hunger in theory, but you can never reach above 12.8 saturation with steak unless you eat 2 in a row. This is what makes gapples powerful, you can stack the 9.6 saturation from 1 gapple to get 20 sat, while it takes longer and is much riskier to eat steak late. I had to look at the wiki to make sure I was getting this info correct but thats how it works. Plus, in bedrock edition, you get extra regen benefits from hunger.

merry sandal
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Is the ladder placing bug a known bug or should I report? (place ladders while going up and it will not place occasionally)

knotty flare
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Please report

carmine lantern
clever solar
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double the price of diamond armor
double the price of trident

hasty robin
hasty robin
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Suggestion:

  • Make all pickaxes have efficiency 1 in Normal mode
  • Change efficiency 1 to efficiency 2 in Enchantment Shop in Normal mode
flat quiver
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make the iron pickaxe be able to break netherack, it makes sense because they both cost gold anyways

sharp hinge
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they can break netherite

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💯

cedar tapir
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just fix the whole game egg wars used to actually be fun not anymore

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bring leather armor back

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if u die make sure you loose all loot why let players keep pickaxe

hasty robin
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Suggestion:
Change the amount of steak from 16 to 8 in Normal mode

mighty reef
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Bring back redstone for a limited time each season

inner mango
mighty reef
cedar tapir
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can yall just add the old version off egg wars in seperate portal or something

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why does the trident do so much damage to netherite armor and why arent swords enchanted like before

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sad how they really messed up egg wars and golden apples dont even help anymore this game is so unbalence

median gust
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It’s horrible

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It wasn’t broken there was no need to change it

cedar tapir
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it still is horrible if u controll the middle its like if you already won

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is there a way to get a refund from egg wars

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this version of egg wars is really trash

median gust
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Ancient Debris as egg cover is horrible

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People should spawn in with pickaxes it’s literally impossible to break their egg cover

cedar tapir
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whats the point off ancient debris and having obsidian on shop for sale if they both take a bit long to break

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why do we even have a pickaxe when we respawn after we die

median gust
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Cubecraft shouldn’t have targeted an update at bad players and ruin it for the good players. The bad players should just get good it’s not hard

cedar tapir
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they really ruined one off there fun games i used to always want to play egg wars but now i dont even want to play it most of the times

carmine lantern
carmine lantern
mighty reef
hasty robin
mighty reef
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Yeah exactly

cedar tapir
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whats the point off a sword if a trident does much more damage to diamond armor

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as well to netherite armor

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@carmine lantern 11 months off work for that trash ass update to egg wars is sad

silver egret
# median gust Cubecraft shouldn’t have targeted an update at bad players and ruin it for the g...

I do strongly believe the argument/preface of this update being for new players is so stupid bc all the good players had to learn to get to where they are-? If there was an issue with new players they could’ve made a tutorial mode for egg or made a practice thing or something. Egg isn’t a complex game by any mean and completely changing a gamemode for ppl that get mad bc they don’t want to put the effort in to get better is so backwards

mighty reef
merry sandal
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Can we get TNT to go back to how it was before.. it was way more fun

forest geode
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make eggwars like hypixel bedwars

median gust
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That would be awful

silver egret
carmine lantern
merry sandal
frosty bridge
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Bring back the old shop items and prices

carmine lantern
forest geode
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armor should be permanent

carmine lantern
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did you ever try to break an ancient debris from camping team?

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that respawn with pickaxe?

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what the point of killing them then?

cedar tapir
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just bring back the old egg wars and also the sword are so useless in the game that u dont need them anymore all u need is a trident

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bring back leather armor as well and and bring back the old shop prices from the old egg wars and take out the trident

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bring back the emarold generator

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take out the enchanted table

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take out ancient debris

hasty robin
cedar tapir
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i havent played normal mode but im going to have to give that a try

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yall should have not messed up egg wars instead yall should have focused on making good maps

hasty robin
cedar tapir
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i been waiting for better maps in general like most of the maps on teams of 4 are trash

merry sandal
clever solar
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^

forest geode
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They wont have swords

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I just want some permanent stuff so that if u die fighting someone, it’s not that hard to come back

silver egret
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It’s not hard if you just like get the materials needed to buy everything you had before

inner mango
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i think the point is to make it hard to come back

silver egret
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You already have the permanent pickaxe armor would be way too much especially netherite

rich flame
carmine lantern
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i bet egg update dev fav map is celebration

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||me about to get muted for telling the truth||

limber oasis
forest geode
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then whats the pt of the egg

clever solar
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if youre trying to play bedwars go to another server for that

clever solar
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double the price of diamond armor
double the price of trident
this would balance the price of end game

cedar tapir
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just bring back the old prices and old armer and take out the new armor and the trident

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bring back the emerald generator and take out the enchanting table

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take away pickaxe when players die

clever solar
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not happening

mighty reef
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I like the new system for emeralds a lot more, but some prices can be tweaked

carmine lantern
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||devs are non||

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||please don't mute||

carmine lantern
mighty reef
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Strength should be more expensive

stark locust
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i think the additions of rockets would be very fun and cool but make them like 3 rockets for 5 diamonds and put in misc. or in archery it would buff the elytra, i just dont see anyone using the elytra its kinda uselless for its price and you could also put it in crossbows. I think eggwars is suposed to be fun game but still competitive and balanced and this would be a fun item but still balanced if you make the rockets a bit expensive

mighty reef
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Elytra with rockets? Nah dude

clever solar
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would need to be very expensive rockets

stark locust
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yea but still if you landed one time with the elytra in the ground you would lose it

knotty flare
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No please, I don't need elly leap again

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You just can't die anymore, since you can just elytra firework out of the void

stark locust
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bro its not like you are going to have 30 elytras

mighty reef
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It happened before

stark locust
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i mean if you let the game go on for 1 hour i guess so

merry sandal
carmine lantern
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i used elytra once and never seen someone use it again

carmine lantern
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here we go again

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this update is good would be better with all the armor and maybe redstone if someone used it

clever solar
blazing dew
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Ancient ores are too strong so theres 2 things u can do 1- remove them 2-make it that when u buy a pickaxe and die u dont keep it because atleast before with obsidian u could box in and break but now if u do that they just keep respawning and breaking the blocks 😕

hasty robin
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Things I’d like to see in the future:

  • Bring back Leather armor in OP mode (and rebalance armor prices for OP mode, leather armor should cost 4 iron, iron armor should cost 40 gold, and diamond armor should cost 64 diamonds)
  • Remove Netherite armor in OP
  • Bring back 5 gold diamond pickaxe, and add efficiency to the 12 diamond pickaxe. It doesn’t make sense having to go to mid just to buy a pickaxe that can mine ancient debris or obsidian.
  • Bring back power and punch bows, especially in OP since bows are underpowered in that game mode
  • Nerf pickaxes on death, either by putting it on cooldown the same way as kit items if you die within the cooldown timer, or lower the pickaxe tier by 1
limber oasis
tiny cedar
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pickaxe on death is too op, I just buy the most expensive one

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and then just buy iron armour and keep rushing to others base

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I'll succeed eventually

blazing dew
mighty reef
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Make it so you can add bots to your team if you are not in a full party that can just stand still and do nothing

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So if you are two players in a party and play a To4 map you can add two bots to fill the slots

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that just stand still

sharp hinge
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Pickaxes on death is annoying

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Also because if you accidentally buy another pic your stuck with it forever

limber oasis
sharp hinge
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Ye you still gotta throw it every time you respawn