🥚︱eggwars

[raw coral]

Nah to far to far

[fallow grotto]

Waiting patiently for my duo to say eggwars is fixed to hop back on

[raw coral]

Eggwars is fine

[wise cloud]

Need one to play eggwars

[wanton robin]

#🎉︱looking・for・party

[faint stratus]

Okay ran the experiment again I did something wrong in the calculations in the earlier but now I did it I got 100 blocks instead of 120 which I'm promised in the shop menu to get from 60 iron.

[raw nexus]

Do you have a video of this? So I can try and replicate

[fallow grotto]

I'm guessing the server takes back the block thats supposed to stay in the shop, so you only get 4 blocks

[faint stratus]

I have

But basically it can be replicated by taking 60 iron and and trading them to blocks for 5×10

[delicate osprey]

bring old eggwars back

[ruby geyser]

no

[languid pumice]

they tried to make it easier for newer players but all they ended up doing is making it harder for them

while upsetting the leaderboard grinders at the same time

its funny

[winged rock]

Bring old eggwars back like 1.8 eggwars

the maps suck, OP is not op its just cheaper items its horrible, starting a generator is way to expensief, you should be able to dissable the texture pack, everything is bad, looks bad. And there told us that there removed 1.8 so there could make more updates and get more new player, there are less players and there are not coming new players, idk what the mods are doing but there are stupid and all the builders should find a new job. The old maps where perfect, at this point all the maps look like bedwars (like all 4v4v4v4 or 2) and there are is map with water in the middle, like w.tf. There was a map with lava but that was small this is a hol ocean. It sucks. Builder should be fired.

[warm reef]

Chilll!!
Why don't you make a map and send to the team? You map may be added

[winged rock]

Chill cubecraft already destroyed it self the better players that are good leave and there are no player coming back, its pointless

[ruby geyser]

cubecraft has not lost eggwars players

[fallow grotto]

hive skywars isnt even real skywars

[modern solstice]

atleast the server dosent crash

[rigid dune]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-dunk-lakers-labron-gif-19985360

[modern solstice]

yes it has theyre just being replaced by new players who will quit in under a week anyway

[rigid dune]

One life, islands in the sky, rng, middle, mid chests, base chests

delulu CC fan

[ruby geyser]

it doesnt matter if its new players

[modern solstice]

yes it does

[ruby geyser]

also if clans are leaving cubecraft thats a good thing

[modern solstice]

the people quiting were the people who played regularly

and bought ranks

these new players might not play regularly

[ruby geyser]

it doesnt matter if its regular players

[fallow grotto]

lucky blocks

[modern solstice]

yes it does

if they play less = lower player counts

[modern solstice]

why?

[ruby geyser]

cuz if 10 reg players leave its the same as 100 new not reg players cuz the concurrent player count hasnt changed

[modern solstice]

yea but the new players are way more likely to quit

[ruby geyser]

clans split the community which was a bad thing

[ruby geyser]

they would be replaced by more new players

[modern solstice]

most of these new players arent sweats theyre just kids who saw that cube got updated

[ruby geyser]

it happens a lot

[modern solstice]

noones moving from hive to cc

its the opposite

[rigid dune]

it brought competitiveness and drive to play the server

[modern solstice]

no the high player count is bcz the update just came out

[ruby geyser]

as i pointed out yesterday eggwars is still signficantly more popular than treasure wars

[modern solstice]

hype will wear off

less new players will come

[rigid dune]

no, it doesn't, existing clients are 10x more valuable than new clients

[modern solstice]

old players are long gone

[modern solstice]

not when the na players are on

[ruby geyser]

it made the community more toxic

less unified

[ruby geyser]

the player count didnt change

[modern solstice]

yea my point was , old players quit , new ones came and made up the difference but those new players will leave in under a week

[rigid dune]

it heavily decreased when the update first came out and I have yet to see the playercount break 20k

[ruby geyser]

but also if more sweats are leaving new players will be more inclined to play because they will have a higher chance of winning

[modern solstice]

so i expect a drop overall

[ruby geyser]

it hasnt hit 20k in a while

[tough helm]

Days ago I gotten 3 stacks of iron tokens lol

[ruby geyser]

the player count is increased because people are interested in the update but the player count has also decreased because of bugs and crashes

[modern solstice]

exactly because they cant bug test the update properly

i can walk through blocks in ew

[ruby geyser]

i predict the player count wont change a month from now

[modern solstice]

the comp community will die

[ruby geyser]

they released it too early

[raw nexus]

🤔

[modern solstice]

yea they didnt

[rigid dune]

Existing clients are 10x more valuable. Good players generally invest more time and money into the server. Consistency is the key to having a returning playerbase. Returning players makes the playercount less volatile and it results in a drive to make more purchases. It's more healthy and profitable. Please never speak again.

[raw nexus]

A lot of bugs only arise if more players are online

[fallow grotto]

.

[modern solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-lebron-dunk-lakers-labron-gif-19985360

[languid pumice]

yea like falling through blocks in ew

[raw nexus]

I have yet to see a bug report on that

[rigid dune]

Playertester btw, 0 reason for them to cover the update and its issues^

[languid pumice]

and being frozen if u send a message while respawning

[raw nexus]

I don't know what this means

[ruby geyser]

once someone buys the eggwars rank they cant buy it again while a new player can buy it

[languid pumice]

y wasnt it caught during the bug testing phase

[raw nexus]

This is being looked into yes

It didn't happen for me, or anyone else during test or on the staging network

[ruby geyser]

a new comp community will be created for the new gameplay

[fallow grotto]

Idk bro the amount of low level vip 30s I've seen...

[rigid dune]

Bundles release every season, good players make alt accs w rank, gifting is more prominent in returning players

[rigid dune]

@modern solstice himself has 3 alt accs w egg rank

[raw nexus]

I don't think any of us here can make any real claims on which kinds of players are the most profitable. It's all speculation anyway

[rigid dune]

I have gifted 10 ranks/bundles

[languid pumice]

exactly

[fallow grotto]

^plenty of unranked high levels and ranked low levels

[languid pumice]

whos an unranked high level

[fallow grotto]

haven't had any issues queuing

[rigid dune]

It's literal business theory that returning clients are 10x more profiatble, Ziax needs proper knowledge

[languid pumice]

never seen one in my life

[raw nexus]

I doubt the studies were done on Minecraft servers

[fallow grotto]

that sounds like a client issue

[languid pumice]

dosent have to be

[rigid dune]

Business is business

[raw nexus]

It's really not

[languid pumice]

applies to businesses in geneal

[raw nexus]

I can keep selling food to a person, as long as they don't move houses they'll probably stay, I can't keep selling EggWars ranks to a player, and players stop playing when they grow older

Considering there are a lot more non sweats, I'd guess non sweats have it more

The actual % of the player base that falls within the "community" is very low

[fallow grotto]

you don't see the nons, you don't know how many sweats have it compared to nons

[raw nexus]

But again, neither of can know. We're all just guessing, I don't really see the point in us guessing about it

[fallow grotto]

can someone tell me

[ruby geyser]

id assume its more likely for a 9 yr old to see a cosmetic they like and buy it regardless of their playtime than for an older more experienced player to buy a cosmetic

[fallow grotto]

why is iron armor

iron

what is happening

[ruby geyser]

shouldnt you have level vs vip level data

[raw nexus]

That's not how it works

[fallow grotto]

and theres no sharpness

why

[raw nexus]

I assume we can make that data/graph, but I don't have it no

[fallow grotto]

Hu

Hu

Hi

didn't they say there's like 250,000 unique players every day

[raw coral]

Vanilla is a bad flavour

Coconut is literally the worst tasting thing ever

[raw nexus]

I would have no clue, but yes. The amount of unique joins is substantially higher than concurrent player count

[raw coral]

I like apples and bananas

[ruby geyser]

pumpkin 🤢🤢

[wanton robin]

samee

[raw coral]

I don’t eat it I own it

[wanton robin]

🙄

[raw coral]

Tf is a kenzo

Clown

[wanton robin]

wowwww

it is a

[raw coral]

🤡

[wanton robin]

lmaooo

[fallow grotto]

can you make it

[raw nexus]

I personally can't, would have to ask an admin or dev

[raw coral]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-thicc-omniman-thicc-bussy-invincible-gif-25227149

[wanton robin]

my G

[frosty sierra]

you already die fast enought and trident

[fallow grotto]

is that why i got 3 tapped in skywars 💀

[frosty sierra]

idk 3 tapped is insane

[fallow grotto]

why are there tridents anyway

what happned to regular

[undone flint]

Hello, does anyone know where the channel to ban is?

[lavish gulch]

Where

Yeah I had to kill people by bowspamming with punch

[frosty sierra]

on forum

[frosty sierra]

https://www.cubecraft.net/categories/player-reports.150/

[undone flint]

ty

[frosty sierra]

I should become a mod fr

[ruby geyser]

fr

if i wasnt toxic i would apply

[fallow grotto]

BLm

[spice star]

yo someone wanna play egg wars with me join vc english #1

[fallow grotto]

u still up to?

[remote flame]

Anyone know when this beta will end?

[fallow grotto]

when it's stable

[woeful bolt]

anyone on java

[paper isle]

Technically correct… the best kind of correct 😂

[hollow flax]

please someone help me

[fallow grotto]

with what

[hollow flax]

there is a problem with the game

[fallow grotto]

what problem

[south nymph]

Yea the new update is the problem

[near pasture]

Another day, another dub.

Back at it again!

ooo I almost forgot about my gold bronze color

anyways, IM ANDREW ELECTRIC!

[cinder belfry]

Me personally, I like the map changes

So far anyway

And also

Welcome back, Magic

[near pasture]

Yeah, revival kinda.

I'm not sure how I feel about the new major changes, but give it a week– give it a month

I'll find something for you to chew on soon enough.

[cinder belfry]

I mean I like the 4 nations update to Ruins

So that's pretty cool...

Still not sure what in Corneria is going on with these prices, though

Glad they finally listened to me about Mangrove

Now it has the much more deserving name of "Swamp"

Much more fitting

[flint compass]

Just had the best game of my life

Well

I can’t even type their name cause it gets moderated on here

[pine shadow]

How are you people still playing eggwars, it's so trash now

[flint compass]

Hm

[cinder belfry]

I only just came back...

[flint compass]

I like either one, op on old version and new version is still pretty decent

Just gotta get used to it

[cinder belfry]

Let a lizard form his own take

[near pasture]

Ah, so nice to see complaints again.

Hello again, cubies!

[wise hatch]

Hello

[near pasture]

Hello to you too, Vel! I refer to my comeback video.

[viscid forum]

new features is nice like the new use of emeralds. Prices should be reverted back to normal, dont make iron armor the norm for op

tons of bugs everygame. like not loading chunks and the one i posted earlier.

also i clipped to alot of structures and because of that i ended up losing.

the chance of not having a bugged game is 50%

new kb is trash . i also land crits without even doing it for some reason

[near pasture]

wooo i has the 50% win rate in my mr electric game!

Me and wolf showed the other teams THE HERTZ!

..get it?

as in a unit of electrical frequency?

[ruby geyser]

thats only for you

[ruby geyser]

cuz thinking eggwars is trash is an unpopular opinion

[pine shadow]

Yeah, I'm sure the fact that CC has lost thousands of players over the last week has nothing to do with the update

[ruby geyser]

the fact that cc lost no players has nothing to do with the update

the fact that eggwars is significantly more popular than LB bedwars and hive treasure wars has nothing to do with the update either

[flint compass]

I love the bug where you walk through blocks

You either fall to your death sometimes or watch people suffocate

[near pasture]

where where where where?

[pine shadow]

Keep shining CC's boots Coconut, I'm sure you will be mod soon!

[near pasture]

.

[fallow grotto]

that's not glorifying cc in the slightest, only correcting your misinformation

[pine shadow]

Misinformation? CC used to easily have the highest player count among all the servers, the Hive constantly has more players now

[fallow grotto]

remember mineplex? most of those players went to the hive since their games are more similar

and yes, that was a while ago, hive has had slightly more players than cc since that long

[ruby geyser]

not tryna be a mod

[pine shadow]

That was ages ago

Miner kit is now useless, enchants are useless since they barely give you an advantage and they are so hard to get, games take 2-3x as long now. Nothing about this update is good

Not to mention that they completely removed redstone

[sly wasp]

I like that you get emeralds from breaking eggs/getting finals

[pine shadow]

That's fine, but they are still useless

[sly wasp]

discounts help with buying stuff

[fallow grotto]

sorry but sounds like you're just playing wrong

[ruby geyser]

if your games are 2-3 times longer then youre doing something very wrong

[pine shadow]

How?

[ruby geyser]

enchants are very easy to get and prot 2 is very useful

[ruby geyser]

cuz my games and many others have not increased in length

miner kit is so useful now too

[pine shadow]

When you can get full diamond without even leaving the main island, enchants are useless

Miner kit is worthless, since you respawn with your pick anyway

[sly wasp]

I believe games are taking longer due to the update, but not a crazy amount longer

[pine shadow]

may aswell use another kit and just buy a pickaxe

[ruby geyser]

my games are still 2-3 mins in duos

miner kit is very useful for the first rush

gets the snowball effect going sooner

[sly wasp]

my games have increased by like 10-30 seconds in duos, and by a decent amount in squads

[pine shadow]

mega games take easily take way longer

[ruby geyser]

you have to use a different strat the old strats dont work as well anymore

[sly wasp]

yea, its easier to die now which helps but also makes it more difficult to wipe teams

[pine shadow]

How can you defend the diamond armour cost? games are now full of braindead morons just camping the gold gens now

[ruby geyser]

i cant defend the diamond armor cost cuz its too cheap

[idle sequoia]

use debris to cover the entire thing

[ruby geyser]

should be 40 gold

[pine shadow]

Was there something wrong with the TTK on the old update or something?

[fallow grotto]

you can't, I think armor needs to be rebalanced

[idle sequoia]

its the only way lo

[sly wasp]

its just that you die faster and crits do more damage so you might die while attempting to wipe

[pine shadow]

you shouldnt be able to get diamond armour without leaving your island, that's just dumb

[ruby geyser]

you could get chain prot 4 without leaving your island

[pine shadow]

Chain prot 4 was a good upgrade from leather, but it was balanced enough that it was worth the cost to get the gold

it would give you a reasonable advantage over a normal leather guy, but you could still die easily in a 2v1

A person in diamond now can 2-3 hit someone in iron, which wasnt the case before

[ruby geyser]

last i checked diamond armor didnt deal more damage

[pine shadow]

good one

[languid pumice]

its not at all

most people i asked in vc dislike the update

[ruby geyser]

did you ask the people currently playing eggwars

(more than tw and bw)

[languid pumice]

so true

[pine shadow]

Most people can't even type in games

and the people that do chat in eggwars all say they hate this update

[ruby geyser]

then why are they playing it

[pine shadow]

But I'm not going to ask the braindead players for their thoughts on balance

[languid pumice]

they dont

they moved on to sw or hive

[ruby geyser]

so eggwars is still the most popular out of ew tw and bw yet people who dont play eggwars think the update is bad

[languid pumice]

thats just because of update hype

ive played quite a bit on the new update

[pine shadow]

Eggwars was balanced well before this update, they should have just added new items/ maps. The upgrade shop is a neat idea, but its not at all balanced

[languid pumice]

ive yet to run into a single good player that i used to run into before the update

all of them are nons

[ruby geyser]

so basically theres a tag on it "beta"

[languid pumice]

exactly

if its in beta they shouldnt push it out yet

put it in beta games or keep it in the public test server for longer

[ruby geyser]

how would they get opinions on the update if the majority of players, the ones we call nons, dont play it

[languid pumice]

beta games

public test server

they didnt have to suddenly delete the old gamemodes and replace them with this

[ruby geyser]

again not for the majority

[languid pumice]

im sure theres a better way than deleting the gamemodes we already had and replacing them with a raw poorly tested beta version of the 1.19 update

[ruby geyser]

well what they really should do is an in game poll but thats never gonna happen

[languid pumice]

for example

the update that came out in late 2021

that changed gen speeds for bedrock

[ruby geyser]

2022

[languid pumice]

2021

changed emerald prices

added cyber city

that update was executed almost perfectly

wanna know why

they brought around 20-50 popular players from java and bedrock to vote on changes

the result was a good update that most ppl were happy with

[ruby geyser]

in 2021 the gen speeds were the same as now in 2022 there was a bug that made gens start before the game started then when it was fixed people wanted it back so they doubled gen speeds

[languid pumice]

thats besides the point

[fallow grotto]

you clearly don't remember what happened when emeralds were released

[ruby geyser]

there was also another eggwars update at a point where wood was added to the game and everyone hated it so it was removed and the changes left after that update were ladders and gaps price doubled

[languid pumice]

not when emeralds were released

that was a diff update

im talking abt the late 2021 update

not the mid 2020 update

read the convo

[fallow grotto]

emeralds came in 2021

[languid pumice]

thats incorrect

[fallow grotto]

nope

that's correct

[languid pumice]

https://youtu.be/Yf2bi4iwnBM

mid 2020

[fallow grotto]

regardless, you're talking about a small update that fixed what sucked about the original update

[languid pumice]

regardless if it was small

the consulted members of the community

and they got it right

[ruby geyser]

if they got it right related wouldnt have made a video complaining about it

[languid pumice]

he was complaining abt the 2020 update

[fallow grotto]

no, players complained about it until they got it right

[languid pumice]

they got the late 2021 update right

[ruby geyser]

theyre working on getting this update right, hence https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1131738866030739588

[pine shadow]

let's be real, the chance of them reverting this update is next to zero

[languid pumice]

there was a private server with like 30-50 ppl where certain things were voted on

[pine shadow]

they don't really care

[languid pumice]

and thats how the changes were made

[ruby geyser]

they arent reverting the update

[ruby geyser]

eggwars focus group

[pine shadow]

And nobody worth a damn actually likes this update

[languid pumice]

yea

[flint compass]

Woah

[languid pumice]

i feel like if they did the same thing rn it would be effective

[flint compass]

Ngl but the damage has changed on the armour

[flint compass]

Someone in full diamond now is basically similar to full iron before

Or soemthing

Idk but people are easier to kill in diamond then before

[sly wasp]

prot changed

[near pasture]

cause it isn't enchanted I suppose.

[fallow grotto]

yeah, I was in that server

[ruby geyser]

armor is prot 1 instead of prot 4 in op

[fallow grotto]

that was for the season 1 update

[flint compass]

I was not paying attention, I didn’t even realise it used to be prot 4

[fallow grotto]

that's why this was like the only update where the intended changes stayed

ofc there were other things wrong with the update though

[pastel coyote]

I would delete that, mini mods are snitching probably

[pastel coyote]

They don’t

It’s just another excuse to say “we are connecting with our community”

[fallow grotto]

whats wrong with that message?

[pine shadow]

Nothing at all, but god forbid anyone actually criticise CC

CC is full of wimps that cry at the most minor inconvenience, they think that they will get in the good books of the mods if they report people

[flint compass]

Are people bothered about doing that?

And either way, is there anything wrong with doing that?

[pine shadow]

lmfao you did not just say that

[flint compass]

I’m just asking

[sly wasp]

I do not believe the mods will take in consideration their defense of the server when looking at their report

[pine shadow]

Cube Craft could bomb people like Mira and Coconut's house and they would still praise them

[flint compass]

I mean considering I don’t know how the mods see things as I’m rarely on the discord

You’re attacking me for a question

[pine shadow]

I'm only calling you a pvssy

[flint compass]

Okay

Can you answer the question now?

[pine shadow]

I said that CC is full of pvssies, and you asked if that's okay

Takes all sorts to make a world I guess

[flint compass]

Ah

[pine shadow]

Does that answer your question?

[flint compass]

Not really

Get over it I guess

[slender dagger]

quien pa jugar ahorita?

[fallow grotto]

CC is full of wimps that cry at the most minor inconvenience

[pine shadow]

Good one

[ocean nacelle]

Fr

[near pasture]

Man, I miss the old days of cubecraft eggwars. Not like today's era is bad, but it was just better back then. Everyone was mostly content where they were, getting to see your name on the leader board for a couple days wasn't the peak of everyone's career, and the gameplay was somewhat simplistic. Then, y'know.. emerald update, game got REALLY clunky, in terms of items you didn't even know existed. So honestly, this update is a good step in the right direction at first glance. I'm speaking with one game's worth of experience with this update, so my opinion may change.

But there is and will always a crybaby. No matter how good an update is, or how interesting CC tries to be with it's updates, there will always be that one sweat, camper, VIP, "non" that has something bad to say.

[sly wasp]

thats cool

[near pasture]

THATS ME

YOU SAY THATS COOL TO ME

Cause thats ME in there

I'm ANDREW ELECTRIC

Excuse my caps.

[last stream]

Nice to see the quality of discussion hasn't improved at all around here-

It's almost like we didn't miss a beat!

But yeah, I can respectfully say I don't share my colleges optimistic first impressions for the update after just the 1 game.
It's not all bad, I'm glad to see egg wars finally getting new maps and a return of the Best map to ever grace to4 eggwars
||cough cough magic-||
But the prices in the shops, and some of the revamps for the older maps I'm not so sure on.
Ruins doesn't exactly look like it qualifies for the title of "ruins" anymore to say the least.

But, I'm willing to give all things things a chance. And you can trust Good ol #TeamStarWolf™ will always be open minded, but never bias. If something is bad, we won't go out of our way to shoe shine Cube crafts boots
And if something is good, we have no problem giving ol cc their deserved props for a good job.

Anywho. See you crafters on the cube.

[ruby geyser]

its at a really low point rn so must be a good thing

[viscid forum]

these loli pfps doing all they can to lower everyone criticizing the new update

[ruby geyser]

im not stopping their criticism im just disproving their claims

[fallow grotto]

not true

[viscid forum]

well now we know what went wrong

last time i read about focus groups it was weezer with EWBAITE. Everyone liked it because they asked many people per tour.

Only 30-50 people voting and youve got a product ment for a certain group of people only. They instead shouldve just did polls ingame like oldschool-runescape does.

[fallow grotto]

you misread something

[viscid forum]

looks like it

[remote flame]

I noticed that arguing whether the update is good or bad here is too inefficient Please tag someone with an improvement idea

[deft sparrow]

キューブクラフト運営へ
エッグウォーズのcelebrationマップを戻してください

[remote flame]

東方アイコンニキおっすおっす

[deft sparrow]

おっすおっす

[umbral carbon]

Guys
Im builded village in egg wars XD

[somber sleet]

Haha

[frosty sierra]

eggwars suport rule breaking

you have to buy ladder 1 by 1

good for skybase non

[raw nexus]

We've had ladders for a long time

[fallow grotto]

Is it asking anyone to buy eggwars rank again?

Ive had it for over a year but now its not letting me vote and redirects me to marketplace

I don't want to buy a pack I already own because the update is preventing me from using features I already have.

[last stream]

Hi, I was actually a member of said focus group, and I can say that we didn't have as much say in things as some may think.
Ultimately the ideas were proposed by CubeCraft staff and we were then asked to debate them amongst ourselves.

Eventually, it was myself, Andrew, and a couple java players who pitched the idea of seasons where things would be added in rotation to allow for mass player feedback rather than having us few select players be the final say on what should and shouldn't be added.

After seasons were made official, our job then became to decide simply on what should be added in the upcoming season and what should wait. Season 1 and the first few bits of season 2 were the only ones we had any discussion over before the focus group was disbanded by the higher staff for undisclosed reasons.

But yeah, it was never simply a matter of voting
There were rigorous sometimes day long discussions and debates before we were given the okay to vote.
And by the end, it was always going to be up to the player public based on the widespread opinion on what things in updates should stay and what shouldn't.

[ruby geyser]

they were in stacks of 16

[last stream]

Hope that clears up any misconceptions about the focus group.
We decided very early on the final say shouldn't be left up to the opinion of the few selected officials (though some did argue otherwise)
And what we actually had a say in was basically what would get a pass for the season and what would have to wait, trying to keep updates in a balance and not overwhelm people with two many new concepts at once to the point we couldn't get any good feedback to form an opinion on.

This new update looks like it did away with that in favor of just getting out as many new things as possible without much care for how drastic the change up would be for most veteran players. Not the smartest move, but I'm sure that was the reason the focus group was disbanded to begin with.

There will always be a divide between what the staff and players view as a priority.
And there was a very heavy narrative of simply trying to get player numbers higher while we were trying to improve the game for it's current player base while giving enough insensitive to draw in new players.

But that wasn't their focus, so eventually we simply became a hindrance for what was ultimately CubeCrafts wishes for the server.

I think it's safe to say that if there still was a focus group, this update likely wouldn't have been as divisive as it is, certainly not as drastic, but the simple fact is currently, CC doesn't really want anything like that slowing down. Their new marketable changes.
For them, It seems it will always be
1.Bringing in more players
2. Literally anything else
3.Optimizing for existing player base

[near pasture]

As one of the pre-approved, hand selected focus group members, I agree with that.

[last stream]

Yeah dude when was the last time you played-
Ladders are used for building traps, more easily traversable multilayered bases people build on their islands,
Defense around the egg
For building structures higher up to attack an enemy base
So on and so forth.

Since ladders have been out I've seen like...no sky bases-
So no need to worry about this non existent problem you came up with.

[frosty sierra]

hi no

[last stream]

cough

[frosty sierra]

yes it dont exist anymore

[proven yew]

Don't listen to him puma. It should be possible to buy few more ladders at same time

Cube need to change it

@fallow grotto my rank is still working, try to report your bug

[cinder belfry]

I don't get it..

[lavish gulch]

true

but some maps are still unfair

for example at fairytale if you chose red, you are closer to the dia gen than team blue, or yellow

[raw nexus]

I don't see any ladders

[raw nexus]

And further away from the gold gen, it's not that simple

[ruby geyser]

hes saying when people skybase its much harder to get up there cuz ladders are sold individually

[raw nexus]

Arguably, gold is more important my first time going mid

[raw nexus]

Ooh

That was not very clearly worded, we are planning to make them buyable in bigger quantities again cause 1 by 1 is a bit pointless indeed

[last stream]

I said no one uses ladders for sky bases dude-

[frosty sierra]

ladder still fastest way to get rid of them

[last stream]

If your problem is that they can no longer be used to counter sky bases, then that's a different point

Ah

I see so that was your point okay

[frosty sierra]

cause you have to buy 1 by 1

[last stream]

I misunderstood your original complaint.
The way you worded it sounded more like you were complaining about people using ladders for sky bases

Honestly, having a ladder doesn't do much against sky bases since most people who do build them leave no trace to the floor

So you'd have to build up either way on average

Unless you mean ladder builders are gone

But saying CC supports rule breaking because you have to buy ladders individually is... Well that's an Olympic level leap in logic-

[cinder belfry]

I mean to be fair, back in my days of CC eggwars we used to have to buy hay 1 by 1

[raw nexus]

🙏

[last stream]

Now that's a real loss...

[raw nexus]

I cannot but agree on that one

[frosty sierra]

no my logic perfect

less ladder more camping

skybase but same

[fallen sentinel]

fr

[last stream]

Saying cube craft supports rule breaking is still a Luffy gumgum pistol level reach-

Honestly you're lucky they even kept ladders at all

Did you see what happened to hay?

[lean sluice]

bros angry over ladders and hay

thats insane

[last stream]

Less angry, more... whatever that feeling is when you drop a whole plate of food after just having spent all afternoon cooking it-

Like...you're not angry... Just... Disappointed with life-

[lean sluice]

the update does in fact suck so thats how almost everyone feels

[last stream]

I still haven't had enough time with the update to come to a co conclusion just yet, but so far, if even voley is trashing it.. my hopes aren't high-

I don't count example though, cube craft could spit onto their servers and they'd defend it like it was the Mona Lisa

[frosty sierra]

rip sad fr

even if i never used

[lean sluice]

real

[last stream]

Indeed

[frosty sierra]

nice art

[cinder belfry]

Dont remind me

[last stream]

Man that's an old old goodie

The hey castle was truly a masterpiece-

[cinder belfry]

Yeah, so was Squidward's house

[hollow harbor]

hey

can someone help me

someone is building me in with obsidian blocks

[plucky finch]

Guys, I want someone to play egg wars with me, who is playing this?

[fallow grotto]

🙏

[frosty sierra]

that cant be real

[frosty sierra]

you said it was better then say this??

as non, camper egg defender, sweat ,vip my opinion matter

[cinder belfry]

Proof:

[sly wasp]

everyones opinion matters

[frosty sierra]

no

not hacker and rule breaker

[raw nexus]

this is amazing!

[cinder belfry]

Yes

[sly wasp]

how long did it take?

[frosty sierra]

squidward

[cinder belfry]

..uh, 20, 25 minutes give or take

[frosty sierra]

should have done it on ocean map in duo

[sly wasp]

thats impresssive

[last stream]

Well there was 4 of us, so duos wouldn't have worked

[lavish gulch]

yes it is, you can set all islands to a corner

this way everyone has the same distance to mid

[last stream]

I think what she means is some islands are closer to dia with the trade off being that they're further away from the gold compared to the other bases.

[raw nexus]

That, and no one wants to build sideways to mid. I would genuinely hate that map

In the end, I'm not a big fan of the 4 teams with one big connected middle layout anyway. I enjoy palace, Olympus a lot more than fairytale. I like being able to hide and have to search for enemies on mid

And having to jump around mid a bit as well

[last stream]

I like the cut of your jib

[raw nexus]

You like what

[last stream]

...like as in I dig what your layin down

I vibe with that?

[raw nexus]

I don't think I have any idea what you mean haha

[last stream]

...I think my lingo is officially outdated

[raw nexus]

But I'm going to go sleep again anyway ;)

[copper girder]

Olympus will always be the best map

[tall scaffold]

im sorry but the new ruin map sucks

you guys turned a beautiful map into a contrasting chaotic blob

[silver chasm]

H

[errant burrow]

The miner kit needs to be disabled after some time

[ruby geyser]

y

[errant burrow]

When 2 or more teammates abuse it it's literally impossible to break ancient debris

Happened to me twice and it was so goddamn annoying

I killed them like 15 times no joke

And the kit never stops

[ruby geyser]

kits have a cooldown

[errant burrow]

So maybe it was bugged

[ruby geyser]

you respawn with your pickaxe

its a season 2 thing

[errant burrow]

But after like 2 kills it should stop spawnning

Or there needs to be a solution about this ancient debris spam

[ocean nacelle]

Pickaxe stays forever

[errant burrow]

In season 1 you could just cover and break obi

But now it's broken

[errant burrow]

It doesn't have to NOT be permanent

Just revert to s1 cooldowns where its stops after a while then returns

Or else its physically impossible to destroy ancient debris

[ruby geyser]

its not a miner kit thing

[errant burrow]

Ik

Kit abuse

I'm not sure how it's allowed

[ruby geyser]

when you buy a pickaxe it stays forever

[errant burrow]

Wait

I just realized

OMG

So I wasn't drunk when I saw them spawn nonstop with netherite pick

Bruh what the hell

[fallow grotto]

miner kit is the only pick that doesnt stay forever

[errant burrow]

Yeah I get it now

[ruby geyser]

i think the problem is you need better teammates

[errant burrow]

Not my problem I'm solo queueing with useless campers man

[ruby geyser]

kind of is your problem

[errant burrow]

Is that really how you wanna do this?

Being rude and disrespectful

[fallow grotto]

no that really just souds like your problem

[errant burrow]

I'm not even complaining anymore, I realized its not the kit, you two are just being toxic now

[fallow grotto]

this is toxic?

[errant burrow]

Are you like 5

[ruby geyser]

being rude and disrespectful would be pointing out that ive never had an issue with team wiping

[fallow grotto]

are you a snowflake

[errant burrow]

I literally have like 1.2k wins

[ruby geyser]

not telling you to get a team

[errant burrow]

But you 2 are just useless

Bye, I'm not staying here with idiots

[fallow grotto]

me too gotta say

[errant burrow]

ok yall still trash anyway

[ruby geyser]

with stats like that i wouldnt be talking

[fallow grotto]

^

[errant burrow]

Wth is this even supposed to mean? Plus anime pfp + you're garbage

[ocean nacelle]

This pickaxe convo still running after 12 hoirs

[errant burrow]

It wouldn't if that coconut dude wasn't a toxic pos 😴

Bro took it personally

[ocean nacelle]

Cool

[fallow grotto]

bro thinks identifying the problem is toxic ☠️ ☠️

thats a whole other problem 💀

[near pasture]

Omg, quality assurance member approves of our squidy house!! tytyty! ❤️

[near pasture]

wat

[vague hill]

omg

2k wins

you are the goat

[ruby geyser]

no

just better than him

[vague hill]

wins=skill

you are amazing

[ruby geyser]

no

[fossil marlin]

yes wins=skill

thats why I'm the 3rd best pvper on cc

clearly

[golden depot]

if your pick stays forever, wouldn't that just make miner kit useless

[fallow grotto]

yes except for the first rush

[golden depot]

is efficency in mid 1 em?

[raw nexus]

Yh

[raw nexus]

It has much higher eff thought

[golden depot]

yeah but like its wood. The previous one could break obby as quickly as the diamond efficeny 2 pick

maybe even slightly quicker

[fallow grotto]

only eff 3

which all will have soon anyway

[raw nexus]

Oh yh idk how much better it is on mco. On java we got gold eff 4. It's probably chance if we add eff back to the shop so it isn't useless

change

It'll probably change*

It's too early to type and auto correct isn't helping me enough 😭😭

[golden depot]

im kinda just hoping once the bugs are finished and there are signficantly less issues it can be focused on changing the game and continuing the beta testing as people don't seem to know its an open beta

[golden depot]

fair enough

my brain wasn't processing it and its 4pm

[raw nexus]

EggWars as already gotten 2 "updates" since the beta release

With the new gameframe work we're able to do both at the same time!

Well "new"

But now everything is on it

[golden depot]

they have defintiety been improvements, but if you ask majority of the playerbase on a survey (similar to when testing happened for that one thing that i can't remmeber in beta games) they still would want more balance

[golden depot]

amazing for future updates and everything

[raw nexus]

With the new shop layout?

[golden depot]

i don't remember

[raw nexus]

Ideally we would have an ingame question thing

[golden depot]

ah yes it was

i remember

also with the shop my muscle memory is going to suffer

i sometimes still go through the wrong portal when trying to play duos

[raw nexus]

Ahw, yeah we moved duels and now moved it back haha

[golden depot]

also i don't know if this was fixed because i haven't played today but on whale theres still an emerald block in mid and it seems like too little to make a bug report

[raw nexus]

I fixed that

Was the old emerald gen

[golden depot]

yeah

[golden depot]

ty :)

[raw nexus]

Should have an enchantment shop now

[golden depot]

so was the enchantment shop moved from the top to there?

[raw nexus]

Oh no no, I added it somewhere in the middle

Wait? Did I forget the remove the emerald block?

I'll go double check one sec

[golden depot]

there was one in the middle of the whale

where the dia gens are

[raw nexus]

Ohh 😯

[golden depot]

also the clay fell in that small staircase when i place a block under it

[raw nexus]

Wait what does that mean?

[golden depot]

il try to explain it in a sec when i get on

[raw nexus]

Okey, whale fixed. I forgot to remove the second ems gen oopsie

[golden depot]

oopsie no one saw that

what em gen?

totally doesn't exist

[raw nexus]

Fr

[inner lark]

Is there any chance we’re bringing back the old eggwars or is it time to delete the game from my phone?

[golden depot]

scroll up in this conv

@raw nexus

This is the clay bug I referred to

also i see in that clip the emerald is still there

[raw nexus]

It'll be fixed on new servers, can take 3 hours

Wil logged the falling stuff

Also how did you walk inside the wall lol

[golden depot]

honestly i don't know, my game sometimes just does that

[raw nexus]

It's us pretty sure

As in a bug

[golden depot]

yeah

[raw nexus]

I'm just confused what triggers it 😭

[golden depot]

i think its my postioning might be slightly different on my end as compared to the servers end??

no idea

but it happened when the update came out and i would be on the edge of the block and i would fall

my aim is just to not get to close to the wall lol

[fallow grotto]

does anybody want to join call 2 and play egg wars? we need 1 person

[raw nexus]

If I don't have to talk

@fallow grotto Can you inv Lyraga

[fallow grotto]

yes u can talk to

yk

[raw nexus]

I'm too shy :v

aah

[warm reef]

Die a few times in void and it will do that you can walk to half blocks (or the blocks which are not refered as full block)

[mossy hazel]

anny 1 bedwars im dutch

[warm reef]

Lemme make a bug report on this

[golden depot]

I will replicate it with you soon

Maube

Maybe*

[warm reef]

I already made it

I mean reproduced it

[golden depot]

Yeah but I want try. What are the steps?

@warm reef cause I forgot to reply

[warm reef]

Just die in void

https://youtu.be/u_giWNwIlcg

[lavish gulch]

did cube nerf fireballs?

it doesn't destroy blocks

[ruby lily]

theres fireballs in eggwars?

dem

[wanton cargo]

Who is here

[ocean nacelle]

No one

[ruby lily]

^

[raw nexus]

Since 2 or 3 updates ago 😄

[raw nexus]

Not recently, it should destroy concrete only

[ruby lily]

damnnn

[lavish gulch]

can you get on cube right now

people have a few questions about ranks and when I told them ranks wouldn't be permanent anymore when you purchases one in the future

they wouldn't believe me

[raw nexus]

Lol

Euh no sorry, I'm busy switching rooms with my sister so everything is still a bit of a mess

You can link the notion page

[lavish gulch]

dw

[mild geode]

Sucks for the people who didnt buy the ranks when they were permanent tbh

[vague hill]

aint no way

[warm sparrow]

Really not a big fan of the update tbh

I like buying my punch 1 bow off the rip

[mild geode]

Probably arent too many people wanting to buy cube java ranks anymore anyways

[tight path]

anyone down to play some eggwars?

[vague hill]

it’s already $10 per rank

it not being permanent is crazy

[mild geode]

Cube java needs money ig

I thought the obsidian rank and stuff costed more then 10$ too

Idk tho

Lol

If java stops sustaining itself theyre gonna close it probably

Its definitely on the threshold

Fr

[raw nexus]

Obby costed 160

[raw nexus]

Very many players are asking about it ingame

[mild geode]

It has been gone for a long time ig

Also makes sense since at this point a majority of people playing cube java are longer time players

[raw nexus]

I'm not too sure about that

Most players I see are stone, and fairly low level

[mild geode]

Its possible to do that and still be a long time player if your casual and dont try to grind stats

Not everyone wants to pay for a free game lol which is fair

Or sink lots of hours in one sitting

Cube is still famous enough being an og server to get new players tho ig

[main folio]

Ngl ultra hardcore doesnt really feel hardcore

[lapis wind]

160?

holy sheet

[ruby geyser]

wasnt the java store closed

[warm reef]

I hate the half dead state bug and phasing through blocks sooooo muchhhhhh

[last snow]

Well done guys, you've ruined eggwars. I'm just gonna play treasure wars on the hive from now on. Is there any way I can get a refund on my eggwars rank?

[last stream]

Bro wut-

[cinder belfry]

I'm sorry 😦

[last snow]

Sorry I don't speak gif.

[cinder belfry]

But that's a selfie...

[last stream]

I'm just confused-

Someone actively making the choice to play the hive just baffles me

Like choosing to drink dasani-

[last snow]

Have you recently played eggwars?

[last stream]

Yea

[last snow]

I didn't make the choice to switch. It was forced onto me by the horrific update.

[last stream]

I mean, I understand if you feel like cube craft went from Fiji to tap water, but tap water is still better than Dasani-

[cinder belfry]

Aquafina*

[last snow]

No, it went from tap water to sewage. To make it clear again, all that has to be done is to press control and z.

[last stream]

Pretty sure that's not how coding works-

[last snow]

You're telling me that the devs don't have a copy of the previous code?

[last stream]

And what if they already saved their progress? Then control z doesn't work at all

[last snow]

I find that very hard to believe.

[near pasture]

finally time to make the switch, i've been tired of having this pfp.

[last stream]

I mean, cube craft has had a history of "Don't look back, only forward" mentality

[near pasture]

see you guys soon!

[last stream]

See ya soon Andrew!

[last snow]

Scorched earth is not a good policy.

[cinder belfry]

Considering the Gingerbread map keeps being brought back, I agree with the blue guy on this one

[last stream]

But it's the cube craft way-

Well...ya got me there Leon

[cinder belfry]

I also find it very hard to believe

[last stream]

We don't know of ginger bread is still around tho

So only time will tell

[cinder belfry]

I think the fact that it's even survived 2 years is telling enough

[last snow]

And directly ahead is the bottom of the Atlantic. They should change course before it is too late.

[last stream]

Wait so we're already going down?

[last snow]

We've already hit the iceberg.

[cinder belfry]

Sheesh, what happened before this update?

[last stream]

...then there's not much course correcting to be done-

[cinder belfry]

Must've been pretty bad to be..

[last snow]

There is still time to lower the lifeboats and save whoever is left.

[last stream]

Right?

[cinder belfry]

Iceberg level...

[ruby geyser]

no refunds

[last stream]

...you mean whoever is left...right

[last snow]

Well that's a shame.

[last snow]

Yes. I've amended my message.

[cinder belfry]

Okay good

[gentle yoke]

Working?

Okay, neat.

[cinder belfry]

Because I'd want to save all the drowning civilians instead of a couple whine glasses

[last snow]

Have the devs said anything about a possible reversal of the update?

[gentle yoke]

Why would they?

[last stream]

Not that I've seen

[cinder belfry]

I've heard of tweaks of the update

[last stream]

Aaaaye

The boy andrewwww

[cinder belfry]

From a very credible source...

[last snow]

Why wouldn't they? They must have seen the amount of backlash to their update, if you can call it that.

[last stream]

I believe it was said that this is still the open beta

So bug fixes and price tweaks are likely to happen

But as a whole, I'm not sure what else may change

[cinder belfry]

That and pride

Lotsa pride...

[gentle yoke]

Well, from my perspective, the calamity mod for terraria used to have overpowered weapons. To the point where you would grind 8 hours for a really cool sword to beat a hard boss, only for that boss to drop a way better sword with little to no effort put in.

They nerfed the swords.

Backlash.

But eventually, it was fine.

No more half measures, Darragh.

[fleet whale]

no need to guinea pig whole server on an update this buggy tho

[cinder belfry]

Aaand, he's talking about Calamity

Sleeping

[cinder belfry]

Doubt

Well actually

Maybe not

[last snow]

Was that mod forced onto the entire player base?

[cinder belfry]

We'll just have to wait till the next winter update

[gentle yoke]

For those who wanted to play calamity, yes.

[last stream]

Hey, I'm not vanilla and blank
I'm not licking CC's boots, I'm just answering the guys question-

[cinder belfry]

Because gingerbread is a half measuring CUP

[last stream]

I agree that they shouldn't have released the update in such a state, but it is an open beta

It's likely to be buggy since they didn't care to fix or adjust
They'll fix and adjust as players find them

Do I agree with this strategy? No

But it's just how every dev studio does things now.
Did you see Jedi survivor?

[gentle yoke]

Okay listen.. In short, what i'm trying to say is that you need to give it time. A big change that seems bad, could be just what for the game to go in a much better direction than it was headed. The calamity mod weapon nerf was an amazing choice, because while it did make some weapons not worth getting, it allowed for more expansion and quality to be put in to future updates.

Is this one of those updates?

Don't know yet. Just give it time..

[cinder belfry]

You could've said Security Breach

[gentle yoke]

I know most people hate change, but it might be for the better.

[cinder belfry]

Cyber punk

[last stream]

Bro the Freddy Fazbear game was like 100 gigs

With that much space, Freddy Fazbear himself better manifest out of my computer screen

[cinder belfry]

He didn't

A bunch of bugs did, though

[last stream]

He should've-

[last snow]

Losing a third of your playerbase is for the better?

[gentle yoke]

😐

Am i on mute?

[last snow]

No.

[gentle yoke]

Did half of what i said not go through?

[cinder belfry]

Why does everyone keep talking about this player stuff

You're gonna make that purple person come back again

[gentle yoke]

Is eyesight going extinct?

Well, i'll excuse the misplacement of your pupils and counteract your "losing half the player base" with this..

[cinder belfry]

Watch, they'll be here any moment now to reply to that message

[gentle yoke]

Show me the proof.

Show me the data.

[cinder belfry]

Aaaany moment now...

[last snow]

Because it is the most important statistic that a minecraft server should have.

[last snow]

*third.

[gentle yoke]

wat?

a third of the playerbase?

[last snow]

Yes?

[gentle yoke]

Numbers.

[cinder belfry]

Give it a minute...

[gentle yoke]

Where are you getting this info?

[fallen sentinel]

Wenomechainsama

[cinder belfry]

...

You're not the purple one

[gentle yoke]

You have a couple sweats and a few people right in this server saying "Maaan im so done with this new update brooo its just laame" where is the actual data of the playerbase count going down?

[cinder belfry]

You're blue

Light blue

[last snow]

Im going off my memory here as the statistics only record the last day. Today, cubecrafts highest player count was about 19500. A week and a half ago, this was around 28 to 30 thousand.

[fleet whale]

i dont think anyone’s spent time making data graphs etc bro but as u join the server it does keep going down

[gentle yoke]

Before i respond to that, i'll clarify i just transfered accounts

Making a whole move over thingy, for the better

[cinder belfry]

This is taking longer than I thought it would..

Maybe they're busy

[gentle yoke]

Anyways. So going off of that, you're sure it isn't just a day of the week type thing?

[last snow]

https://stats.cubecraft.net/

[gentle yoke]

Here we are! One second.

[last snow]

It's Sunday, the day that would have the highest amount of traffic.

[last stream]

Are we accounting for people just having lives outside Minecraft?

[gentle yoke]

Is this a 24 hour format of stats? How do i see the past years?

[last snow]

As I said, it is Sunday.

[fleet whale]

sounds like an anomaly to me

[last snow]

I couldn't find any graphs that go back further than 24 hours.

[gentle yoke]

Well i can't go off of your word, so tell you what. I'll guarantee there was more players than there is now back in 2020, but i think that's just due to fall off principle.

So for now, give it a week? give it a month? Keep track of the charts, see what the overall average is, and then you got yourself some real evidence.

For now, i think we've hit a dead end in this discussion.

[last snow]

If player count reaches 30 thousand tomorrow, I'll rest my case.

[gentle yoke]

Well i'm not sure how credible that is in terms of stats, im used to having more to go on, but we shall see!

[fallow grotto]

the player base has decreased crazy amounts

[gentle yoke]

..

[fallow grotto]

i’m kinda shocked you’ve not noticed

[gentle yoke]

Get in line pal.

Anyways, i was just about to talk about something

[last snow]

It definitely has gone down, there's no denying that.

[gentle yoke]

Again, no stats. No facts.

[ruby grove]

it’s gone down

[gentle yoke]

Firey..

I don't believe we've met.

I'm ANDREW ELECTRIC!

[cinder belfry]

You know what

Here's what Im going to do

I'm going to put on my Lizard reading glasses

Now who is going to show me an image of the players dropping post update?

I didn't put these on for nothing!

These are state-of-the-art reading glasses

[last snow]

3 different people have confirmed my statement. Is there evidence, maybe not, but there are witnesses to the decrease.

[gentle yoke]

What makes any of them credible?

Did they view the secret stat board i can't see for some reason??

[last stream]

With data, the only thing that matters for a whiteness for a mass player decrease is that they all saw a chart-

Hesring it word of mouth from friends that they're leaving isn't evidence of a massive drop off

[last snow]

Nothing does.

[gentle yoke]

Thanks.

[last stream]

I'm not saying there hasn't been, but there's nothing to show definitively that the player base is "at an all time low"

[last snow]

Bedrock clearly displays the current player count.

[last stream]

People made all the same claims about "I'm leaving the game" on mass when the emerald update dropped

And yet here we are

[last snow]

Emerald update?

[gentle yoke]

The current player count, not the past ones.

[last stream]

With data, actual facts matter, so unless those witnesses saw a chart, the witnesses don't matter

[gentle yoke]

Yes yes, i was just about to mention that!

[last stream]

The update that included the emeralds for the first time

Everyone on here was up in arms

[gentle yoke]

Same thing happened on the big emerald update. Every sweat, VIP, camper, etc. From every nation just fired off the canons.. "Bad update. Baaaaad. Baaad." Oh the horror!

[last snow]

The one that allowed elytras to be bought and all?

[gentle yoke]

About a month into the update, they all shut up.

And now people are mad about the changes again, awwee

[last snow]

I don't remember that update changing essentially the entire game.

[gentle yoke]

Well, it was basically on par with this update.

Gen speed boost, elytras, wall builders, KDA and Hitbox changes, the whole 9 yards.

[last snow]

Generators are slower, prices are much higher meaning the game is now slower. Leather armour doesn't exist anymore and knock back is different.

[gentle yoke]

Leather armour doesn't exist..?

[ruby geyser]

theyve said its not happening

[gentle yoke]

Like I said, get used to the update, or go home. No half measures.

[last snow]

Also my favourites were deleted.

[gentle yoke]

Maps?

Yeah, tends to happen.

[ruby geyser]

most of the backlash is because of bugs that will be fixed and because people dont like change

[last snow]

Oh look, the entire game is much different and slower but don't worry, there are 3 new maps.

[ruby grove]

did u get the stats in the end

[last snow]

That wasn't change, that was an entirely new game. Everything has changed in it.

[gentle yoke]

Which stats? The hidden starboard of the ancients?

[ruby grove]

player counts

[last stream]

The sacred texts-

[gentle yoke]

Emerald update. Emerald update.

[ruby geyser]

for me the game isnt slower but id say if its a problem that generators are back to normal then they shouldnt have made them double speed last year

[gentle yoke]

Someone needs to show me the hidden player count starboard, I can't find it.

[ruby grove]

ok i’ll dm it you

[last stream]

All were saying is that there was a loooot more complaining on massive scale when the emerald update came out, much more than were seeing here

[gentle yoke]

Let's gooo!

[ruby grove]

it goes up to 30day i think

[gentle yoke]

When did the update come out?

[last snow]

10 days ago.

[gentle yoke]

Good.

[last stream]

If it only goes up to 30 days then there's no way to compare it to passed years or other big updates

[last snow]

Or around that.

[gentle yoke]

Show me the stats!!

[last snow]

Post it here so we can all see.

If the generators were back to the previous speed and prices were fixed to what they were, the update wouldn't be as bad as it is.

[gentle yoke]

So it's a sweat issue.

This whole thing is just a sweat issue.

[last snow]

It's a speed issue.

[gentle yoke]

Right. So you're mad because the update is anti sweat..?

[last stream]

Skill issue*

[gentle yoke]

Same diff.

That explains alot. It's only game changing because it affects your playstyle in a negative way, whilst the emerald update was on the same scale, only it sped up the gens.

[last stream]

No offense but an inability to adapt sounds like a personal issue.
My main issue is honestly less the speed so far and more so just...odd changes-

Like ruins. That looks..not like ruins-

[ruby geyser]

the update was intended to make early rushing harder so you have to do rushes with the bare minimum amount of loot again

[last snow]

It's anti fun. All games run much slower and, well, that's not enjoyable.

[gentle yoke]

Ahahah!

[last stream]

Anti fun?

[gentle yoke]

Alright, I can rest comfortably now.

[last snow]

Have you found the mythical stats?

[ruby geyser]

however the update encourages people to take out other teams because of emeralds

[gentle yoke]

It was all a big misunderstanding.

[last stream]

What about the large percentage of players who are casual and don't care about speed?
Does this change to speed affect them?

[fallow grotto]

Update has made rushing pretty awful. The balancing leaves much to be desired.

[cinder belfry]

You mean me?

[last snow]

Do you enjoy waiting?

[fallow grotto]

Omg there's this thing called challenge queue, maybe itd be cool if it actually worked.

[last stream]

I don't have to wait if I'm playing my cards right

[cinder belfry]

I mean

I do

[last stream]

I didn't bring that up-

[cinder belfry]

I do it all the time

I'm the defender!

[fallow grotto]

But it'd fix your "problem"

[last stream]

Yeah, perhaps it's because I'm a to4 main

...my problem is the design of ruins

I don't that fixes it-

[ruby geyser]

challenge queue is for putting mobile players in pc games, but its doesnt do anything because input based matchmaking doesnt work

[cinder belfry]

You want to be Powalsksis so bad

[gentle yoke]

There we go, there's the confirmation! So basically, its a split update. If what people are saying about the player count is true, half of the CC eggwars players are Sweats/Grinders/Rushers who stopped playing because the game's slowed down. The other half, the Casual/Camper/Non side of the game could actually care less!

[fallow grotto]

Casual players play casual games. Challenge queue should be for us rushers.

[gentle yoke]

Let's GOOOO!

Goodnight, everyone! Case closed. I enjoyed this discussion very much!

[last stream]

Well he said the update was "Anti fun" but it seems it's only anti fun if you're idea of fun is specifically quick games and grinding stats

[gentle yoke]

Mwah! Mwah!

[fallow grotto]

There needs to be better challenge queue so we get proper matchmaking instead of whiny babies that think rushing is the devil.

[last snow]

Then there's the issue of longer queue times (I'm looking at you automatic region change).

[cinder belfry]

But you guys think strategy is the devil..

[ruby geyser]

the player count didnt change

[cinder belfry]

So doesnt it kind of even out

[gentle yoke]

LETS GOO+

[fleet whale]

of course it’s true, @ruby grove dmed everyone the stats

[fallow grotto]

You can strategize and rush.

[gentle yoke]

then I can lucid dream!

I can DREAM!

[last stream]

And let's get real. Rushers don't like playing other rushers or high level players-
From what I've seen, the moment any game delivers any form of challenge for any vip player, they either leave the game or cross team. There is no in between-

[cinder belfry]

That's not what every rusher ever has told me

[ruby geyser]

send me it

[cinder belfry]

I'll tell you what they did tell me, hang on I wrote it down

[last stream]

And if it's different for you, congratulations, youre the exception, not the rule.

[fallow grotto]

I would love to play against other rushers and sweats. It doesnt queue me with them though, I get players who cant even turn or people who are still crouching while bridging.

We've made scrims to combat the lack of competent players.

[gentle yoke]

Pudding! Pudding! Pudding! 🚶

[last stream]

The heck is a scrim?

[fallow grotto]

If you knew sweats, you'd know what a scrim is. End of.

[last stream]

Lady I don't talk to sweats-

I'm speaking from experience of playing against them

And what is with people being passive aggressive when someone asks for information-

[fallow grotto]

You're probably just the demographic I'm talking about them. Ever care to think you're getting matched with above average players?

[ruby geyser]

so the player count didnt drop

[last stream]

What are we talking about???

[ruby geyser]

and the eggwars player count specifically also didnt drop

[fallow grotto]

Genuinely though, challenge queue needs to be tweaked so sweats don't get into games with casuals.

[ruby geyser]

conclusion: the update was neither bad nor good

[last stream]

So from what the stats have shown me, the update was Mid

[fallow grotto]

The casuals end up complaining about rushing and make things kinda awful for everyone who likes thay style of gameplay. Instead of having overpowered for rushing, they've driven it into the ground. Play normal or hardcore if you don't like rushing.

[last stream]

In terms of bringing in new players and alienating others

But I'd still say the emerald update caused far more complaining

Even ol example was cleaning out the tissue box after elytras were introduced

[ruby geyser]

the update with wood got a lot of backlash

[last stream]

I missed a wood update???

Dang it I pitched wood!!! How did I miss it!