🪓︱skyblock

[bitter oak]

im making this, doess it fit all mobs?

ight

wym☠️

[compact lark]

Spiders, cave spiders, slimes

Those dont work

[wise forge]

@bitter oak I have played 3 game days) Having gained access to the optimizer, I will be unstoppable and will begin to build my evil empire😈😈😈

[bitter oak]

who has a good farm design for wll mobs

[compact lark]

Dead knows~

[bitter oak]

real.

[compact lark]

There isnt one that fits those 3 mobs in

You need dedicated farms for them

[bitter oak]

i need cowns, checkins,zombies, maybe spiders

[compact lark]

Chickens wont work too

[bitter oak]

im noob

[compact lark]

Nor ocelots

[bitter oak]

why

[compact lark]

Chickens dont take fall damage.

Nor do ocelots

[bitter oak]

i put a campfire at the end of the fall

[wise forge]

@bitter oak Shredder Reborn dude 😈😈

[wide flare]

can fly

[compact lark]

Plus you really dont want all mobs at once

[wide flare]

cats land on feet

[compact lark]

It'll only lag ur game out

[bitter oak]

idk man

[compact lark]

You want to remove unneeded spawners asap

[bitter oak]

like what

[compact lark]

Like cows, you need a double chest of cooked beef and you're set for life

[compact lark]

For money: everything but creepers and pigs

For xp, only undead mobs

[bitter oak]

yea i kinds need xp rn

maybe ill make it just zombies

[compact lark]

Makes it so smite works and no need to account for weird mob pathing

[bitter oak]

wdym

[wise forge]

Piglin don't spawning it's overworld?

[compact lark]

I never said they didnt?

They do

[compact lark]

I mean different mobs have different pathfinding which can cause some to slip out of the farm if not accounted for

[wide flare]

whoooo 2 pillars done

[wise forge]

I collected spawners and placed my room=don't kill piglins... so strange 🤔

[compact lark]

What?

[wise forge]

I Placed spawners to Overworld

[compact lark]

It doesnt count towards nether quests if thats what you mean

Since the quests specifically say in the nether

[wise forge]

Holy shields... Replaced time...

[compact lark]

Reading does wonders.

[bitter oak]

hm ok ty

[bitter oak]

do u have a yt channel?

[wise forge]

I thinking to working for overworld

[compact lark]

Like 2 nether quests works in the overwirld

Gather magma cream, and craft bottles

[wide flare]

nope

[bitter oak]

how long should i make the fall for zombies

[bitter oak]

alr

they dont necessarily need to die from the fall bcs i put campfire below which can kill them

[compact lark]

Depends on the spawner level

The campfire is a bad idea btw

It'll only make it so you cant hit them sometimes

[bitter oak]

rn all below 20

[wise forge]

Well, let's start with the fact that everything works strangely here. How do I know what's only in hell? Piglin is Piglin, I thought that having a quest allows you to kill anywhere

[bitter oak]

idk

[compact lark]

Do you think you'll be able to get them to 30?

[bitter oak]

do u recommend a farm tutorial on yt bcs im making this outa my mind

[wide flare]

u see this sam

[compact lark]

The quests that are FROM the nether, need to be DONE in the nether.

[compact lark]

Honestly no, its very simple

[bitter oak]

idk ive only killed 20 zombies, maybe whne i actually start farming

[compact lark]

From what i saw of what you sent earlier, you're doing perfect

[compact lark]

Then lets assume level 20, ab 70 blocks should work

Tho mob hp bug may screw with that

[bitter oak]

oh

[compact lark]

Smh

[bitter oak]

i only did like 30

[wide flare]

i did a deep dive on most of his vids...

[compact lark]

Thats for like level 5-10 spawners

[wide flare]

he even had one showing that he was scripting and u could copy it from his description 😮

[compact lark]

:/

[bitter oak]

if i do 70 blocks they instantly die after fall?

[compact lark]

They shouldn't all do that

And if they do, just level up the spawner till they dont

[wise forge]

That's nonsense.By this logic, it was possible to make trees grow only in their native biome... I don’t know what the author of the map used, but I hope everything is fine with him

[bitter oak]

ight

[compact lark]

No?

That logic is nonsense, not the games

[bitter oak]

btw

can u remind me how many blocks water flows

7?

[wide flare]

8

[compact lark]

Who would guess that HELL mobs doesnt work (for quests) in the overworld.

[bitter oak]

ok

[compact lark]

They LITERALLY belong in a different dimension

[wise forge]

But at the same time, the quest exists as an active one and so do the monsters. It is not known for certain what made the author add these conventions

[compact lark]

It is known. Its called being dimension specific

Just like glowstone trees

If you cant naturally find it in the dimension, then it wont work

And dont say overworld doesnt abide by it, they are general quests.

And some of them you cant really do in the nether anyways

[wise forge]

Again, why aren’t trees tied to the biome type here if everything is twisted like this?

[compact lark]

Because thats a dumb argument

Its like you took a tree sapling irl. Planted it in a different country

It would still grow!

(Just not as well)

[wise forge]

I’m already silent about how stubborn the initial generation of these trees is...

[compact lark]

Thats called decoration

The islands would be SO bland if it were just regular vanila trees on spawn

[bitter oak]

this look like 70 blocks?

[compact lark]

55-60 but yeah that should do

[bitter oak]

ight

[compact lark]

Test at that level, if you need more or less, just move the killing platform up or down

[wise forge]

Why thats bumd? It's a normal question)

[compact lark]

Because of what i wrote below it

[wise forge]

Why so high?)

[compact lark]

Thats not even high...

That can still grow like 300 blocks taller

[wise forge]

For what?) Mob death 30+ blocks

[compact lark]

Someone hasn't upgraded any spawners~

Higher level spawners, more hp mobs that drop more xp

[wise forge]

@compact lark I mean, why is it so high if 30 blocks are enough? Of course it's your business, it's just irrational

[compact lark]

30 blocks isnt enough.

Thats fact

Even for level 20 spawners

You'd need 50 or so if there wasnt the hp bug

But due to that bug, you need more

small?

We have an entire double chest!

[wise forge]

So if you don't kill the monster yourself, you won't get experience or is this condition ignored here too?

[compact lark]

Yeah you wont

If the mob hasn't been hit by a player object (arrow, sword, player activated tnt, etc) for 5 seconds before they die, they wont drop any

[wise forge]

And from 70 blocks, on average, half will die immediately. 300 blocks is just for farming resources, there won’t be any experience even close there

[wide flare]

not like you hoarded them or nothin

[compact lark]

The 300 blocks was just showing how tall it could get, mobs despawn 128 blocks away from the player

So the max fall distance, for an xp farm, is 126 blocks

And that distance allows use of level 50 spawners

If you're clever and can make a second drop where you punch the mob off a cliff and have the xp transported up to you then you can add in another 127 blocks and be able to use level 95-120 spawners

[wise forge]

Spawners 150+ lvl nonsense used?

[compact lark]

If youre in a coop, easily can use em

Even level 200 is usable

[wise forge]

Triggered monster no?

[compact lark]

Its just so mobs dont despawn

[wide flare]

have u been on lately?

[wise forge]

So best farming mob for upgrade spawners...?

[compact lark]

Not yet, was getting on now

[compact lark]

Any undead

[wide flare]

👀

[compact lark]

Preferably not regular skeletons

[wise forge]

Zombies,PG,well

[compact lark]

Yeah they're usable and preferred due to cheapness

Piglins and wither skeletons are ab 20% better xp wise but farrr more expensive

[wise forge]

What's the fun of using 10 Smite on a sword?

[compact lark]

20 + sword hit = damage

[twin swan]

Something funny

Does this farm still work? https://youtu.be/ixkofkG8AKY

It's from Xelia

The piglin one

[compact lark]

No

They removed the auto agro mechanic working for xp

[wise forge]

Smiting sword so better and gain +20% exp?

[twin swan]

So currently you can't really make an automated xp farm on bedrock?

[compact lark]

No

The piglins and wither skeletons just drop more xp

[compact lark]

You cant in java either

[twin swan]

Wait more xp is dropped with higher Smite?

[compact lark]

No

Its just higher smite means higher level mobs can be killed in less hits

[twin swan]

Oh

[wise forge]

For smithing sword or general?

[compact lark]

In general

[twin swan]

Wither skeletons are better for farming but are more expensive, right?

[wise forge]

Withers skeleton undead?

[compact lark]

They are a skeleton

[compact lark]

Yeah

[wide flare]

125m for the spawner and roughly 85m and 2 inventories of bones to lvl to 95

[wise forge]

Spawners more expensive?

[compact lark]

That is how later spawners work

[twin swan]

Why 95 exactly?

[compact lark]

Higher then that is quite expensive and works for the double drop farm

[wide flare]

Is a water source seen as a spawn block? If flowing water is counted?

[compact lark]

Yes

[wise forge]

No yet resources maybe

[wide flare]

Could you make a bubble column space to afk kill blazes

[compact lark]

Yup

[wide flare]

If u made like an aquarium for blazes

[wise forge]

How a counter and farming spider Caves don't poisoned me?

[compact lark]

Its pretty easy, just a regular spider farm with trapdoors infront of it

[wise forge]

8×8?

[compact lark]

No

[wise forge]

Side

[compact lark]

The floor is 3 by 8 in that

Water being far block

Block above water is all fences

[twin swan]

@compact lark As you say the best that can be made on bedrock is just a spawning area where wither skeletons spawn which are then pushed with water into a hole falling down a tube and then manually killed one by one, right?

[compact lark]

You can push them down a second hold using @gritty mango xp transport system for his xp farm

[twin swan]

How does it work?

Maybe with soul sand pushing them up and then failing down again?

[compact lark]

You just shove em off a cliff

Onto mob heads or smth

Xp falls thru

Xp goes to you via water

[twin swan]

So like you create a place where they fall then you push them down a tube where they die and xp drops because you hit them and it goes back up to you by soul sand?

Is that what you mean

@compact lark

[compact lark]

Kinda

Just copy the other part of xelias farm

[wise forge]

Tell me how much size piglin farm for sides?

[hardy vine]

no words

[foggy sage]

When fortune doesn't work well👀🤧

[hardy vine]

only fortune lvl 3 😭

[foggy sage]

Oh...

On which pickaxe iron or diamond!

*?

[hardy vine]

iron

i have like lvl 132

[foggy sage]

Oh

[hardy vine]

i mean i can get lvl 4

but meh

[foggy sage]

Just as a advice u should upgrade ur diamond pick

Or ur diamond armor

Instead of iron

Btw it's ur solo or co op profile? @hardy vine

[hardy vine]

solo

[foggy sage]

Ok

[compact lark]

not the pick

[foggy sage]

Why

[compact lark]

you should only really swap to diamond when you can get level 200 semi easily

[compact lark]

what does a diamond pick do thats better then an iron?

[foggy sage]

More durability

[compact lark]

when we have near inf iron?

its farrr more expensive to upgrade

[foggy sage]

Or if we doesn't have inf iron then?

[compact lark]

id rather have to repair and have fortune 13+ then diamond at fort 3

[foggy sage]

Only takes like 40-50 for first upgrade

[compact lark]

40, 80, 120, 160, 200

[foggy sage]

Yep

[compact lark]

iron is 15 per level till 5 then add 18 per level instead

so by time you get to level 5 diamond, iron is at 10

[foggy sage]

I have my diamond pick at like fortune 7, efficiency 4

Okok chill chill I was just giving an advice

[compact lark]

and yes i know diamond lv 6 is 120, 140 etc

[foggy sage]

It's his choice whether he does use iron or diamond

[compact lark]

its just...the pickaxe is honestly the last thing you should upgrade to dia

sword i agree, same for armour

axe is mainly for acacia or smth

[foggy sage]

We can get pretty good sword after completing violet ends quest

[compact lark]

it has fire

so nah

[gritty mango]

It's not a good sword anyway

[compact lark]

youd prefer a smite sword

[gritty mango]

That's why I grindstoned mine

[foggy sage]

We can upgrade it furthur

[gritty mango]

I like the name but wanted my own enchants

[gritty mango]

Ik, it's a bad start

[foggy sage]

Oh

[compact lark]

sharp 5 unb 1 fire 1

[gritty mango]

You do realise how fast I can level up items right?

[foggy sage]

What did u enchanted on it?

[compact lark]

smite 3 is stronger then that

[gritty mango]

Mine is my sharp sword

Only takes me about 1 hour to max out a diamond item

[foggy sage]

I have two diamond swords
1st one is the normal shard of the sky upgraded
2nd smite for killing withers,etc.

[foggy sage]

Ur xp farm seems so good

[gritty mango]

I have like 3 sharpness swords all 20

Like 3 20 smite swords

So many level 20 pickaxes

2 full sets of level 20 armor

[gritty mango]

It's the fastest one on sb

[compact lark]

its currently the fastest one yeah

[gritty mango]

And that's not counting all my other tools

[compact lark]

its only slightly worse then the 1.12.2 dragon farm

[foggy sage]

Haven't saw ur farm can I have a ss to see?

[gritty mango]

There's a tutorial on my yt

[foggy sage]

I'll check it

[compact lark]

its java only*

you can use the xp collection on bedrock

[foggy sage]

It might be soo expensive too to just make it

[compact lark]

but armour stand part wont work

to even get 10% of the farm, its uber cheap

[gritty mango]

128 level 95 witherskeleton spawners

[compact lark]

its just getting the last 90%

[gritty mango]

Extremely expensive

[foggy sage]

:0

[foggy sage]

Fr

[gritty mango]

26.88 billion coins

It's not horrible

But still decently high

[foggy sage]

Yea

I do have creeper farm for my money

Like sl4tes made in his world

But I have expanded that

So it now gives me 600m per hour

[compact lark]

that sounds wrong

[gritty mango]

I designed the best creeper farm on the server

[gritty mango]

That's very wrong

[compact lark]

im probably just being too tired

forgot xelia's rates

[foggy sage]

Oops I just check it's not 600 it's 160

[compact lark]

yeah thought so

[foggy sage]

lol

[compact lark]

def really good then

[gritty mango]

I was gonna say

The cap is 270

[foggy sage]

Yeah I got typing mistake

Sry for that

[gritty mango]

Caps out at 270mil at mob cap

Which is reached at around 864 creeper spawners in my farm

With 98% efficiency

[compact lark]

not even 100% smh

[foggy sage]

98%..

[gritty mango]

We all know where the 2% loss is

[foggy sage]

Just think what 100% efficiency would look like

[compact lark]

thats spawner efficency btw*

[gritty mango]

Basically that would be twice the gates of my farm

[compact lark]

it just means he needs 2% more spawners vs 100% eff farm

[gritty mango]

Aka not worth it

[compact lark]

to counteract the loss

[gritty mango]

Comparing 31k gates to 60k gates just to save on a few million coins

Hell no

[compact lark]

i cba to even do 15k gates :3

[foggy sage]

Hmm

cba?

[compact lark]

cant be asked

[gritty mango]

Can't be arsed

[foggy sage]

Oh ok

[gritty mango]

English version of can't be bothered

[compact lark]

opening fence gates just isnt stimulating enough

[wide flare]

😭👀

[foggy sage]

Welcome and what happened

[gritty mango]

Welcome

[foggy sage]

Is this ur island 😮

[gritty mango]

Yes

[compact lark]

wa'er

[compact lark]

btw am getting on java now

[foggy sage]

Congo

[gritty mango]

👀

[compact lark]

lets see how my potato pc holds the xp farm~

[gritty mango]

Tbh it's not laggy

[wide flare]

im at 500m... cant decide beween more creepers or more wither skeles

[gritty mango]

@compact lark btw I figured something out this morning

So

Armor stands

Remember how I said they kept breaking every now and then

[compact lark]

what was RoI on creepers?

[gritty mango]

You can stack tonnes in 1 spot and it doesn't affect cap

[compact lark]

i forgot how long it takes

[gritty mango]

Ignore that for now

[compact lark]

wasnt it like 30 hours or smth?

[gritty mango]

Oh no way bigh

Higher

[compact lark]

wasnt this self explanatory?

pigs was 30 or so

[gritty mango]

Didn't know if it affected cap or not

[compact lark]

so 120 or so

[gritty mango]

Pigs is 13 hours

[compact lark]

wait then yeah creepers are 30 or so

[gritty mango]

Creepers are 120

Pigs are 13

Want the math?

[compact lark]

brain just isnt mathing

i alr know the math

[gritty mango]

Lol

[compact lark]

i was the one who did the maths first afterall~

[compact lark]

@wide flare

[gritty mango]

Basically creepers are horrible

[compact lark]

itll take you 120 hours of selling to get more money

so i would probably add more skeletons

[wide flare]

i mean this could be the 2nd 2.16b in a row

[gritty mango]

@compact lark btw the farm isn't laggy until you get to my level of spawners

Knocks my pc down to 80-90fps

With sodium and sodium+

[compact lark]

@gritty mango

[gritty mango]

[compact lark]

ima not burn out my pc so gonna just play a game thats less intensive

[gritty mango]

Oki

[compact lark]

but yeah: id just keep watch on them

make sure they aint doing anything else

[gritty mango]

Yup

It's basically a mix between springy and premiere

[compact lark]

yeah

[meager sorrel]

:c

[languid marten]

Guys how long do iron generators take to make iron?

[night wren]

Like 30 minutes I think

[languid marten]

Im cooked

[night wren]

Why

[stray pine]

It's 40 mins.

[night wren]

Ah okay

That’s nothing really

[zealous spindle]

how long does it take for carrots to grow?

[compact lark]

3hours iirc

could be 4

[zealous spindle]

thx

[foggy bone]

I just accidentally found a dupe glitch

How do I report it

😭

[zealous spindle]

tell me man 😄

[foggy bone]

No

[zealous spindle]

😦

[abstract lance]

Does it involve hoppers

[foggy bone]

No

[abstract lance]

👀

anyway, you can report here https://www.cubecraft.net/categories/bug-reports.151/

[foggy bone]

Alr

[solemn pecan]

Hlo

[compact lark]

sus

[abstract lance]

You're sus

[compact lark]

nou

[tulip temple]

no u

[nimble yacht]

Somone sky with vc

[gritty mango]

Ik what your talking about

[ocean crescent]

why did the remove the end portal in skyblock

[gritty mango]

Cancelled for now. Not indefinitely

[ocean crescent]

oh okay, thank you for telling me

[ancient narwhal]

👀

[gritty mango]

👀

[meager sorrel]

:c

[fast drum]

I was in the skyblock hub to rapair the stuff and i go to my island and i didn,t even unlock skeleton spawner or something like that and it just spawned a skeleton in my overworld

It dropped even bone and bow

[nimble yacht]

somone wna play skybloxk or bd?

[wise forge]

How to create a normal farm of piglins so that they spawn where they need to and fall to the place of murder? It is difficult to complete tasks with them due to the fact that you cannot hit them normally and either spawn on the roof or not spawn at all. I couldn't find anything on YouTube

[surreal torrent]

You still available

[bold tundra]

Build a 1x2 column for the piglins to fall down about 70 blocks high then place the spawners and one block below the spawners place two buttons for them to spawn on. This means theyll spawn then instantly fall where u can kill them. ( if its too high just build up a bit )

[wise forge]

Should I create a platform from the column or place them on the column itself? It’s not entirely clear how this should be done. I've never built farms like this

[compact lark]

Spider jockeys can spawn

[compact lark]

Like this

The air gap in the wall is where the spawners go

They will spawn on the open fence gates (or signs/buttons)

[wise forge]

Well)

[wise forge]

And it’s still not clear how it was built. I need to be able to reach everyone and not have them hang out somewhere in the corners. And they can also appear behind the walls and not in this box

[compact lark]

for the second part: thats just you having other blocks too close

or a ladder

and it is as simple as that, you CAN reach everyone

youll notice how i have a scaffolding around the thing instead of being near the spawners

[wise forge]

As far as I understand, a 3x3 farm, if the spawner comes into contact with the wall, then this is certain death. And I plan to hit them in the legs by removing the bottom 2 blocks on all sides and replacing them with slabs

[compact lark]

spawners spawn in a 7 by 3 by 7 radius.

if there is ANY block in that point, they can spawn

so you need to make sure the ONLY blocks are inside the farm

[wise forge]

So what size should the trusses be and so that they don't appear behind the walls at all?

[compact lark]

it isnt the matter of how big the middle is, because if you expand it you wont be able to hit all the mobs

its as simple as removing the ladders you have to get up there

and moving it outside of range

[wise forge]

So I’m trying to figure out how to do it so that in the bottom crouching position I can reach absolutely everyone from any side and so that they spawn where needed

I don’t need an area of ​​800×800 below, I need it like with a zombie farm so that they all fall into 1 point

[compact lark]

you CAN move ur camera you know

if you want it to be in a 1 by 1 point, the spawner will literally spawn 20x slower

you need more space in it to allow more spawn spaces which will make the spawner roughly 3-4x faster then that

[wise forge]

Farm size 3×3×70?

[compact lark]

1. its x, y, z in mc
2. the drop depends on the levels

[wise forge]

Pipe size to the sides 3x3 and 70 blocks up?

3 Spawners x2 25 1 20

[compact lark]

May need to level up the 20 but yeah that should work

[stiff sedge]

Skyblock is too easy

[compact lark]

Then make it harder on yourself

[stiff sedge]

Like Minecraft is about creativity theres a 100 different cheeses in every corner if you know how to build

[compact lark]

Thats where the large numbers come in tbh

Hardest quest imo is wart

[wise forge]

Of course it’s simple, from the outside it’s always easy to say anything)

[compact lark]

As long as you understand how the farm works, they're all really easy to recreate/modify to your needs

Learning the basic mechanics behind the farms really do help

Its also how you make ur own farms for smth specific you need

@gritty mango can attest to that

[wise forge]

I didn’t build anything more than a room with water and a pipe down 1x1, naturally I don’t understand how to build something else and also take into account the mechanics of spawners

[compact lark]

Its more knowing the distance spawners spawn stuff (in this 9 by 3 by 9, spawner being centre block), knowing how far water travels, and knowing what blocks mobs can spawn

That is the basis of ALL mob farms

And theyre really basic mechanics too

[wise forge]

If it weren’t for the connection to the Nether, I wouldn’t bother anyone here on this issue, but would simply push them with water

[compact lark]

For nether farms you just abuse that 3rd mechanic

While either replacing water for lava, or ignoring that second one

Because lava travels in the same way water does in the nether

[gritty mango]

Hello

I can attest to what

[compact lark]

Knowledge of mechanics to make custom mob farms

[gritty mango]

Ahhh

[gritty mango]

Yeah, the amount of time I've spent in this server testing stuff to find new mechanics on the server to either have SB breakthroughs or just simply make life easier for people is crazy

A large portion of my skyblock networth has went to towards just testing

There are a lot more mechanics that SB has that vanilla doesn't than people realise

[compact lark]

But most can be infered from vanila mechanics

[gritty mango]

A tonne do start with vanilla mechanics yes

[compact lark]

Theres just normally a few minor tweaks

[gritty mango]

It's where you need to make connections with the plugins

To abuse it

[compact lark]

Yeah

Like xp merging

[gritty mango]

Yeah I was just gonna say that one

That's a huge one

Sounds simple for lag purposes

But it can be abused so hard

[compact lark]

Makes our xp farms basically non capable

Only limit is leveling spawners

[gritty mango]

Well to a degree

[compact lark]

Hence the "basically" :3

[gritty mango]

Btw Sam @compact lark

Even tho that person seems to reply to all his comments

He completely ignored mine

[compact lark]

Sus

[gritty mango]

I probably hit a nerve

[wide flare]

I finally got the 3rd 😂

[meager sorrel]

:c

[gritty mango]

9x3x9 btw

Remember..it changed on bedrock in 1.19

[compact lark]

Yeah i corrected myself later on

[gritty mango]

Ahh ok

Didn't see

[compact lark]

Smh

[gritty mango]

Btw you can push with lava. In the nether it's just as good as water

Same distance and speed

I personally don't like using fencegates method for the nether quests either

[compact lark]

Did say that too :3

[gritty mango]

Also didn't see

Just skim reading

[wise forge]

Lava so slowly man

[compact lark]

Not in the nether

And since after 1.16

[gritty mango]

Unless you mean pushing the mobs

[compact lark]

Its semi fast now

[gritty mango]

Which trust me, won't matter for the quests

[compact lark]

Not as fast as water yes

But

It works

[gritty mango]

Btw I want boba

Time to get ready to go out

[compact lark]

I want dont get

[gritty mango]

English?

[wise forge]

Piglin so chill this lava. Slowly down,very slowly. Water fasters x3

[gritty mango]

Yes but the issue is with water

Is you obviously can't use it in the nether

Trust me, for the quests it'll be fine

[wise forge]

Yeah so problem

[compact lark]

Plus it doesnt matter if its faster as long as you dont have more then 8 at once

Up there in the funnel

[gritty mango]

And don't make a 1x1 funnel

[compact lark]

2 by 1 works

Or even 1.5 by 1

But 1 by 1 causes mobs to get stuck

[gritty mango]

1.5 x 1

[compact lark]

Pane :3

[gritty mango]

My first armor stand prototype

[gritty mango]

You moved up

[compact lark]

Somehow

[wise forge]

@gritty mango Make a box as usual but instead of water pour lava and a 3x3 pipe 70 blocks up?

[gritty mango]

As long as the tube going down isn't 1x1

Sure

It'll be fine

[meager sorrel]

im so good

[gritty mango]

Remember they are temp farms

[compact lark]

ik no one will know what this is...but tell me whats wrong in this image

[gritty mango]

Don't need to worry too much about them

[wise forge]

Sides 7x7?

[compact lark]

*i can only have 4 quests active at once

[gritty mango]

No, they travel same distance as water while in the never

So inside (for a 2x2 tube) wants to be 18x18 with the walls 20x20

[wise forge]

Room 20×20 finally?

[gritty mango]

@compact lark give the example photo

The wool one

[compact lark]

Thats 18 by 18 btw...

20 by 20 gives a 4 by 4 hole

[gritty mango]

Yeah inside is 18x18

Like I said

[compact lark]

Smh

Btw the inside water/lava isnt needed

Its only needed if you make a hole bigger then 2 by 2

[gritty mango]

Just corners by the looks of it

[wise forge]

Thx dude) i'ts time to tried

[gritty mango]

I can't go to get boba yet

Our gardener decided to show up

And because I'm home alone

I've gotta wait

[compact lark]

Rekt

[gritty mango]

So the dog doesn't go crazy

[wise forge]

Lord, how much fuss does Bedrock have for the growth control unit. While Java buys almost immediately upon arrival in Nether...

[compact lark]

Both are at same point

[gritty mango]

Yeah

[compact lark]

Both needs either magma graveyard or extreme hills

[gritty mango]

It's nether island 2 quest or ow island 8

Nether is to buy

Ow is to use at hub

[wise forge]

By the way, if you buy a rank and an optimizer, do the bonuses add up or not? will it be 10%+(selected Gain Level) or 13% final?

[compact lark]

Optimiser triggers first

So 10 hour growth becomes 9 hours. Then it halfs

[gritty mango]

I wouldn't have a clue personally

I'm a java player

We don't have the 10%

[wise forge]

30 hours (Acacia) with two bonuses it turns out to be 15?

[compact lark]

With just the optimiser it becomes 15

With rank and optimiser it becomes 13.5

[wise forge]

Und,thx

[wise forge]

Damn why can't you send screenshots right away? Some may, others may not.

[gritty mango]

You need to link your account

To send

[compact lark]

the why is because there was bots spamming images everywhere so theyve made it so you have to prove you are human

[wise forge]

How?

[gritty mango]

https://cbecrft.net/dclink

[rugged spruce]

guys what the sigma ive been on my grind on feet finder while letting my automatic chicken and cow farm grind tell me why i stop looking at feet to check on my game and i died

i lost 30k moneys and 10 levels

i think grindr is my next option

to freak

[fast drum]

The blot out the sun quest is so painfull

[meager sorrel]

:c

[meager sorrel]

make a large cocoa bean farm and sell cocoa beans

[fast drum]

Thats right i forgot to build but i wanted to build later , i might do it now

[fast drum]

Btw thanks to reminding me

[fast drum]

Mind me if i asking , why are you sad ?

[meager sorrel]

aah, that's nothing
dw about it

[fast drum]

Cus everytime you send it i actually become sad sometimes

[meager sorrel]

uhm—

yea it's nothing

[gritty mango]

Actually it's not. It's the hardest early game quest but not even close to what we classify as a hard quest

[gritty mango]

Why you making people sad

Sounds like a traitorous thing to do

[fast drum]

[meager sorrel]

:c

[fast drum]

:'c

[wise forge]

Nice. All task complete =no active button ➕️

[gritty mango]

Yup your linked

[wise forge]

O,sec ago don't activate button

[wise forge]

He he my account has disabled cubecraft site:(

[stray pine]

Can't blame him we all thought it was hard back then

[gritty mango]

I didn't?

[stray pine]

is it different on java

[gritty mango]

Nope

Exact same

[stray pine]

Ok well maybe ur just good

[fast drum]

And expert

Experienced

But i am experienced player too but the reason why i have started a new bcz i wasnt really playing of my island ,it was bcz of school , one of my best friend Zuard , Zuard friends destroyed it :c , and even built some ugly builds , LIKE VERY UGLY

[gritty mango]

I'm top 2

[fast drum]

Top 2 experienced player?

[gritty mango]

Top 2 SB cc player

[fast drum]

Wow

Who's first ? Is it Samuel?

[gritty mango]

It's xavi, not sam

Xavi doesn't speak here often

[fast drum]

Ohh i get it

[gritty mango]

But I'm the person who builds all the op farms people use

For example I designed the current best money farm and current fastest exp farm

[fast drum]

Wow , i mean thats very good

Do u own youtube ? Just askin so i can do some peak

[gritty mango]

Well the fastest exp farm just got a tutorial on yt if you want to look

My channel is ItzXelia

Sadly it's a java only exp farm

[fast drum]

Its ok

I can do farms in my mind on bedrock

[gritty mango]

It wouldn't compare to this exp farm

It's nearly as fast as the old 1.12.2 ender dragon exp farm in minecraft

0-1042 in 1 hour

[fast drum]

I know but im not the farms like yours cus i didnt build in earlier

[fast drum]

Excellent

Gtg i might come back

[gritty mango]

@worn vortex btw I just wanna point out

We made an exp farm that's way faster than the pigmen farm if you want to continue your record

[worn vortex]

euh

idk don't really play

[gritty mango]

Ahh okay

[worn vortex]

is it afk farm or?

[gritty mango]

Sadly that's the only caveat, it's not afk

[worn vortex]

ah

[gritty mango]

It's armor stand based

[worn vortex]

hu

what spawners?

[gritty mango]

128 level 95 witherskeleton spawners

[worn vortex]

ah

i don't really have those spawners

[gritty mango]

It's about 4.72 million exp per hour

So about twice as fast as my pigmen farm

[worn vortex]

yeah well i don't really feel like farming all that money atm

[gritty mango]

That's fair

[worn vortex]

would need a money farm then

[gritty mango]

True. It's a hefty chunk

27 bil

[worn vortex]

yeah well i have not made a money farm so not really gonna get that fast

[gritty mango]

Ouch

[worn vortex]

how many spawner do you have in money farm?

[gritty mango]

In my money farm mines capped with 864

[worn vortex]

oh well than i would need to get a lot more

[worn vortex]

almost have it

[gritty mango]

Just 24bil left

[worn vortex]

):

[gritty mango]

But yeah you just stand here pressing left click

[worn vortex]

only 700 levels higher than me?

[gritty mango]

Haven't used it much

[worn vortex]

this is how money farm needs to look like right?

[gritty mango]

Yup

[worn vortex]

ok ok so at least that did not change

[gritty mango]

Luckily yup

[worn vortex]

well guess il just go add spawners

[gritty mango]

But yeah I only have around 2.5 hours worth of exp

Majority is from testing

[worn vortex]

yeah well not really like i need xp

[gritty mango]

Who does at this point lol

[worn vortex]

well a lot of people cuz they slow

[gritty mango]

They wanted to take one of my farms away, I make a faster one

[worn vortex]

but yeah no one with that farm needs xp

[tardy ember]

I have unlocked Savannah.

[gritty mango]

Gg

[tardy ember]

Is that where the skeletons are?

I want to brace myself.

What are the spawners present there?

Like, how many skeleton spawners? Or zombie spawners?

[hardy vine]

yay

[compact lark]

Love it~

[compact lark]

3 skeletons 2 zombies 1 spider iirc

[worn vortex]

@gritty mango does it make a difference for my money farm if i leave the zombie pig spawners in the old xp farm?

[west warren]

@gritty mango came you across on my yt home page

[compact lark]

It will

[west warren]

Y only 128 or whatever spawners though, do more not work?

[worn vortex]

what u hiding

[compact lark]

P sure it caps just due to mob kill time

[gritty mango]

Oooo

[gritty mango]

Caps

I originally wanted 192 but eh

[gritty mango]

Aslong as the farm isn't with 32 blocks of your player it's fine

[worn vortex]

ok

[little sleet]

you don't want to know with that one

[worn vortex]

oh

[wise forge]

@gritty mango I spent 2 days with these pigs and achieved nothing... I no longer have enough nerves...

@gritty mangoBy the way, the lava doesn’t work; they’re right on the edge, but they don’t fall, although the lava pushes them out... Lord, why was it necessary to connect them specifically with a drop in the nether? So there is no equipment yet and the farm cannot be made due to lack of water...

[tardy ember]

Wow, royal pain for phone players.

[compact lark]

not really

just dig

like use blocks to ur advantage

[compact lark]

the lava does work, you just built it wrong

[wise forge]

Does it work you say? Then why the hell don't they fall?

[gritty mango]

It's because your standing there. It does the same with water

Put some buttons if your really that concerned

[wise forge]

I’m not standing there, I’m in the air at all, and how to install spawners in this case? won't they burn in lava?

[gritty mango]

1.buttons don't burn

2. Stone buttons also exist even if they did

[wise forge]

Spawners?

[gritty mango]

You install the spawners on the platform

Under the lava

[wise forge]

Yeah, and these freaks will appear on it. Yesterday I died over 100 times in 5 minutes from them...

[compact lark]

that lava is wrong

show me exactly where you placed the lava

the flow is all over the place

namely here

[compact lark]

you can do it from below

[gritty mango]

That's just a skill issue

[compact lark]

example

i stand 3 blocks below spawners

spawners cant spawn on me

i can easily place and break!

btw something as simple as this works

[wise forge]

Flow from each lower wall block

[compact lark]

in fact: thats what mimi does

[compact lark]

bad

that ruins it

only the very corners, if youre building what i showed you earlier

[wise forge]

But it doesn’t work in vain, I only lost 2 days on this nonsense with these freaks and not a single YouTube king did anything normal to build a farm on such projects

[compact lark]

its literally the same as a vanila mob spawner farm, except the spawners are in the floor instead of above.

there is nothing complicated about it

[wise forge]

Well, yes, especially when they kill you with one blow from a Wooden sword and you beat them with an iron sword for 4 centuries)

[compact lark]

its because zombies, and zombie piglins has base strength AND higher level mobs deal more damage in general

as simple as this...

[wise forge]

The difficulty is that for some unknown reason these quests were triggered on the Nether, and no one cares how to do them at all, sit and rack your brain. How many thousands of thousands of these quests are still tied to the Nether and this damned lava that stands still? I wonder if my nerve cells will survive to enjoy the game or is it time to go to the pharmacy?

[compact lark]

Considering you're the very first person to complain about it so much since the nether came out....

Which was 4 years ago btw

It is genuinely on you to make sure you actually follow how people build things if you dont know how they work

Which you clearly havent followed

I have gave you 3 different ways to build the farm

[wise forge]

Maybe because, unlike them, I have enough strength to open my mouth and say about it? Why didn't you think about this?

[compact lark]

Or, unlike them, you just cant not have things your way

Fact is: no one really complains about it, because there is FAR worse to come

A simple farm is nothing compared to all the glowstone and nether wart quests

Hell the farm i can build in about 20/30 mins

[wise forge]

@compact larkWhat do I need this glowstone? I planted it and forgot. And when you can’t develop because of your connection to the Nether, it starts to irritate

[compact lark]

this and 3 other quests

also you notice the red text?

Learn to read.

glowstone roots is NETHER exclusive. because in vanila, thats the only place you can find glowstone

[wise forge]

@compact lark If this quest is after purchasing the optimizer, then I practically don’t care, but if before, it’s a little unpleasant, of course, but at least little by little it will be completed, unlike this damned freak farm

[compact lark]

trees: you can find anywhere in the overworld via various means, even if you dont find the correct biome

[compact lark]

if you have the 5k glowstone, its before

also the farm is genuinely easy to build

i can basically build it while im nearly asleep

Hell my little brother probably can with simple directions

[wise forge]

All I have now is a worsening nervous tic due to the fact that my development is absolutely at a standstill because of these creatures

[compact lark]

You can do the quest without a farm btw, its just far more annoying

You're only handicapping yourself by not listening to how the farm is built

Hell i didnt have a farm first time i did it

Just shoved them in a box which they couldn't reach me and slowly damaged them

[wise forge]

Well, yes, without a farm, without weapons and without anything at all...

[compact lark]

A simple stone sword. No armour is needed

[wise forge]

Decided to compare me with your brother? What did it give you? You could just say that I'm stupid and that's all

[compact lark]

Im just saying that you're finding it hard to follow pretty simple advice

[wise forge]

Maybe because you all have different information and no one can normally say anything about what I need to do?

[compact lark]

There are many ways to do this basically: all it needs is a lil creativity to find out the solutions to your problems

Like the 3 methods i have shown above as an example, all work

And there are many many other methods too

[wise forge]

Can you just tell me how to do it? you don't need to show me anything. This is as clear to me as Chinese is to a Frenchman.

[compact lark]

I have

[compact lark]

3 methods, imo easiest one is this

Simple 10 by 8 lava platform on top flowing towards the edge, which will push off into a 1 by 8 lava flow, with the remaining 2 air blocks being the drop

This should be a clearer image

Also for the walls: make it one higher then it is on that

Reached build height on that so couldn't make it taller

[wise forge]

Lava flows for 3 blocks, how to do this?

[compact lark]

Lava doesnt flow for 3 blocks... Are you not in the nether?

Inside the nether, lava acts like water almost exactly

Same distance and travel speed, just ofc deals damage

[wise forge]

How
Do
This

[compact lark]

Go inside the nether.

Then place a lava bucket

and you'll see

[wise forge]

How to build it? How am I even supposed to understand what you built?

[compact lark]

By reading this

That has everything you need for it

[wise forge]

10x8. You also wrote in the text below: “The maximum height has been reached... This is no longer 10x8, it’s 10x8x128, but okay, so be it. How many blocks does lava flow here and what kind of structure is this?

[compact lark]

The height isnt reaching the void.

Its at island level

so no.

Plus the height is the ONE thing you need to adjust yourself

[compact lark]

And the lava flows on all solid blocks you see

If the max it goes is 8 blocks flat, then who wouldve guessed lava flows 8 blocks

[wise forge]

See? No

[compact lark]

Case and point

The fact you cant see it means that its flowing on all available blocls

[wise forge]

Please tell me how do I know that lava flows 8 blocks if: A: I don’t see the blocks underneath it B: I’ve never dealt with lava?

[compact lark]

Because its the exact same as water

As ive said multiple times

[wise forge]

@compact lark But there's something else. How to solve the problem with the space below? there will also be 10x8 and I don’t need that

[compact lark]

You clearly didnt read what i said nor what it looks like

Its a 1 by 2 hole

[compact lark]

All of this funnels the mobs to the block im standing above almost

And its not ONLY a 10 by 8

Overall its a 10 by 9

Just there is one strip of lava a bit further down, as ive said, which will push the mobs to the air gap

which will then be the funnel

[wise forge]

Where are the spawners located?

[compact lark]

The floor, like every other funnel farm

In this sb

[wise forge]

It's clear. It’s more likely that the dead will rise again than they will give me the information I’ve been asking about all day... Nice...👌🏻

[compact lark]

Dead will give you the same info i have given you

@wide flare

[wise forge]

Purely human interest, how pleasant will it be for you to be helped in this way with some of your problems?

[compact lark]

for how ive explained it, honestly really well as its in depth with actual numbers and multiple options

[wise forge]

All I got was a few screenshots and different numbers. Neither the shape of the truss (and this is also very important) nor the position of the spawners on a particular truss based on its shape. Just nothing. Should I sit and guess what kind of farm you have? And what started it anyway? There are people who don’t understand this, like me for example, and is it really so difficult to help them normally without comparison with brothers, mothers and so on? Or did everyone here become scientists at once? What is going on?

[compact lark]

1. what other shape would the truss be in? There is literally one shape its in for fall damage farms
2. i have said many times before that the spawners are directly in the floor of the funnel

Remember this? Well the white wool is directly where the spawners go

The same with every other farm using water or lava

[wise forge]

Don't they burn? Where are they? Where did you put them? And if they are in the floor under the lava, why the hell is this flowing lava?

[compact lark]

All nether mobs (minus regular piglin) are fire proof

Where they're at is swapping the white wool for the spawners

Do you know what under lava is btw? It means the lava is flowing ontop of the spawners

[wise forge]

I spent an hour of my life on this crap, look again

[compact lark]

You're in the overworld rn

Thats why.

Its a nether farm for a reason

Because lava works differently in the nether

[wise forge]

What the hell does it matter if they don't fall there at all?

[compact lark]

The reason why they aren't is due to the lava stream

Lava pushes faster while in the nether

[wise forge]

That the hole in hell will become more visible to them and they will fall there? How is this related?

[compact lark]

They are resisting the lava push from falling inside

More lava push means they cant resist

[wise forge]

More lava=Ground Lava

[compact lark]

No

Thats what the nether is for

The different dimension

Lava works different INSIDE there

It pushes mobs faster, travels further, and faster

[wise forge]

Yes dude, if I pour at least 1 more bucket here it will flow out of here

[compact lark]

And just being in the nether means you dont need to do that.

[wise forge]

And it doesn’t matter if I’m in the nether or not

[compact lark]

It really does!

Thats the reason why your farm wont work

[wise forge]

Okay, let's assume that I'm going to build this, how to build it? If I start lifting it up, there will be a lot of space below. If I start digging down, I won't know how many times I'll die.

[compact lark]

Thats mine

Y70-Y128

[gritty mango]

@wise forge are you new to Minecraft btw?

[wise forge]

@compact lark It couldn't be clearer. I say again, as soon as I build this platform there will be a space of the same size below, what should I do with it? For rent?

[compact lark]

That is very unclear

[gritty mango]

[compact lark]

You can do whatever you want with it, minus where the funnel will be

I dont decide that, you do

[wise forge]

Yes, I’m an absolute idiot in Minecraft, so my questions seem extremely idiotic to you, I’ve never dealt with farms, let alone in hell

[compact lark]

Its more the way they're worded

[wise forge]

Are you kidding me or am I already burned out? Why do I need this space? How can I get these freaks in a room like this? I know where your spawners are and apparently I’ll never know how or if they burn

[gritty mango]

[compact lark]

Nether mobs are fire proof they take no damage from fire

And the space, as ive said before, is exactly where the lava stops pushing and there is suddenly a massive pit there

[wise forge]

@compact lark I'll ask 3 times. Are the spawners on fire?

[compact lark]

How can a spawner be on fire? Also thats the first time youve asked it

[gritty mango]

They can't set on fire

[wise forge]

@compact lark This isn't the first time I've asked

[compact lark]

You have never said "are the spawners on fire" or anything related

Unless you dont know what a spawner is, you havent

[gritty mango]

But sam

The metal will melt

[wise forge]

@compact lark However, this issue has not been resolved. How can I make sure that they do not fall somewhere inside these 18 blocks directly from the spawner, but roll into the pipe?

[compact lark]

Have you ever built a fall damage farm before in the overworld?

If so: the exact same way

Also if you remember this

This tells you exactly

[wise forge]

What does fall protection mean? Do I look like someone who builds farms every day?

[compact lark]

You're at the nether so youve probably built at least one

[jade pelican]

How do I unlock diamonds and rarer loot from Ore Farms?

[compact lark]

Ore farms?

[wise forge]

Even if you beat me, I understand absolutely nothing here. If I explained to people like this, they would most likely not communicate with me anymore.

[compact lark]

Well ive been doing it for 4 years and still running, and afaia most people have a high opinion of me

hell im known as "skyblock dude" in #💬︱english・general

I rarely chat there

[wise forge]

Many Main Quest bro

[wise forge]

I have no idea what anyone’s opinion is about you, I’m interested in how to make a normal farm for these freaks because these creatures have stopped my development altogether

[compact lark]

A normal farm is any of the ones ive showed you, all 3 of them is all variants almost everyone uses for them

And ive given you easily enough info to recreate it, and youve not been asking questions on which bit youve been confused on. All you've been saying is (relatively) nonsensical english while saying it doesnt work, while building a farm thats completely wrong

[wise forge]

I think if they show something to you in this way, it will not be very clear and unpleasant

[compact lark]

Well ive done it for god knows how many people at this point and youre genuinely the first to have such a big issue with it

[wise forge]

And you probably thought that everyone could do everything at once and in 4 seconds, using a crooked screenshot and a random set of numbers, they would build a working farm?

[compact lark]

I would expect them to ask about it

And yes, anyone with basic mc knowledge can roughly do that

As long as they know what a farm is anyways

[wise forge]

Yeah dude, I know I'm stupid but thanks for reminding me again👌🏻👌🏻

[compact lark]

I didnt intend for it to be aimed that way~

[wise forge]

Relax, you are not the first and you are not the last to talk about this, even if not directly. I don't deny this

[north field]

Hallooo

[compact lark]

E

[fast drum]

A

Sport is in the game

[wooden steppe]

What’s the max sharpness and un breaking you can have?

[gritty mango]

20

Unless you use bugs

Which is bannable

[worn vortex]

now why do you know all these things

[gritty mango]

I'm in the top 5 sb players now (technically top 2 but eh)

I know it's been some time since we've chatted though so it's fair

But I know about a tonne of stuff

[worn vortex]

who would be nr 1 then

[gritty mango]

Simple

The unbeatable guy

Xavi

[worn vortex]

i have better stats than him so he is beatable

[gritty mango]

I highly doubt you have a higher networth

[worn vortex]

okey yeah

[gritty mango]

His networth is what is unbeatable

I'm not even close to his networth and mine is high

[worn vortex]

wait what is his net

[gritty mango]

@compact lark do you know his current net?

I know it's above 250bil right?

[worn vortex]

now i wanne see how close i'm

[compact lark]

Xavi?

[gritty mango]

Yup

[compact lark]

Def over 500b at this point

[gritty mango]

Wouldn't surprise me

[compact lark]

Tho last i remember offically

Was 300-350b

[gritty mango]

Yeah

To put that into perspective @worn vortex mine is only ~150bil

[worn vortex]

so what do you all incude when calculating it

[compact lark]

Xavi doesnt include spawner levels btw*

As its annoying

[compact lark]

The base item cost for gens and spawners

[gritty mango]

^

[compact lark]

Sometimes add on level of spawners

But thats farrr more annoying

[gritty mango]

So for example 150bil would be the equivalent to 3750 creeper spawners worth

Isn't there a spreadsheet for it @compact lark

That you can put all the stuff in

And calc It there

[compact lark]

@west warren has that somewhere

[gritty mango]

Yeah I remember it

[gritty mango]

Oh yeah another thing

My new exp farm also counts mob kills this time

[worn vortex]

ah

[gritty mango]

It's 22k kills per hour

Which is fairly nice

@compact lark oh btw also I did math

How much does a skull sell for again @compact lark

[compact lark]

10k

[gritty mango]

Not bad

The exp farm makes 50mil in skulls per hour

So if you hook up a storage somehow

You could make some money on the side

Even though it's slow

[compact lark]

Storage is easy

Player

One small chest worth

[gritty mango]

Anyway, I've got work now

So yaknow

Bye bye

[west warren]

I deleted it iirc

[compact lark]

Sadge

Well its somewhere round the old server

[worn vortex]

well or i'm broke player or i'm very bad at math

[worn vortex]

maybe both

[west warren]

Found this, not sure where it’s saved at though #783008030618288183 message

[compact lark]

its somewhere :3

[west warren]

Discord message search engine is like one of my favs for mobile

[compact lark]

its honestly great

pc gets no love for it

[west warren]

True

[ancient mist]

yo random question but for the 1/100 chance to get a golden carrot, is that 1/100 for each carrot dropped, or each carrot broken?

i am assuming its each carrot broken and i didnt get absurdly bad rates to start out the quest

[gritty mango]

Each carrot broken and isn't affected by fortune

[wise forge]

@compact lark Is something wrong again? We repeated the diagram completely. They barely flow down or don’t really spawn at all

[tame citrus]

hi guys

[wise forge]

@tame citrus hi dude

[gritty mango]

Well to start, why are your spawners there?

[wise forge]

And where? And how does this affect whether they will fall or not?

[gritty mango]

1 they should be falling fine

2 put your spawners under the lava

Maybe if you got out of sight of the pigmen, you'd notice it works

[wise forge]

@gritty mango If the spawners are under lava, then what is the point of the lava itself? And where is the lava? Another 4x4 hole and install it there?

[gritty mango]

Under the lava omg. Not in the centre

Like replace some of the blocks the lava is on for spawners

It's that simple