☕︱java

[minor pollen]

when did we get disasters lol

[thin musk]

today

[still frigate]

/friend accept xCqmboIndex

Pwease

[unreal swift]

Yes @subtle pumice

[white charm]

art

[barren heron]

Alguien juega java mañana?

[steep ember]

Java

[chrome patio]

whos the little guy that keeps pushing me

[lean stirrup]

evil pixies

they are bots that push players around

[chrome patio]

but why

[lean stirrup]

idk

i think its part of the anticheat but its annoying

[white charm]

maybe a known issue?

who knows

[orchid spruce]

Yes, it is a known bug.

[lean crest]

noobs

[ashen viper]

Beep

I love you Java :3

[lean crest]

ook

[stuck bough]

wait

[burnt mulch]

i have question is there any permament rank?

??

[unreal depot]

You can’t buy them anymore

But the old ranks were permanent yes

[obtuse narwhal]

:-(

[burnt mulch]

thanks

[grim iron]

can i buy cubecraft ffa points

??

[spark birch]

No, points (which can be used to buy abilities, parkour maps and ffa items) can only be obtained by winning/killing in any of the games

[grim iron]

righty

would've been fun if you guys did

ffa is good

i mean it is fun but up the stakes yh

[uneven egret]

Kits🤓

[spark birch]

would be a bit pay to win

[grim iron]

the idea of you guys making money and enjoyment would be a W but i understand

thanks for an answer

[white charm]

we need more ffa kits than just swords ngl

[lyric patrol]

respectfully, can anyone buy me minecraft? 🙏

[void bough]

pillars of fortune has turned into a hallucination gamemode

[last bridge]

Mineware was better..

[cinder mirage]

cubelet machines in java are broken.

[unreal depot]

That’s a known issue

[still frigate]

switch lobby 3 times

[cinder mirage]

lol

[spark birch]

go to an empty lobby

[hollow egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jamaica-stare-blank-really-bumboclat-gif-18088625

[obtuse narwhal]

i had to change 8 times last time

[wraith pike]

No

[white charm]

this is not an mcfa discord lol

[white charm]

@crimson sandal

also the armored hand

[crimson sandal]

oh bruh

[white charm]

that's asset recycling for you

[unreal depot]

Wow maniced I thought you were dead

Only this eapv guy is still alive or something but he’s a non

[wraith pike]

Who is that loser

[wraith pike]

I was in a dark green solid place

[unreal depot]

At least his spelling is on point

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/909195135554813962/1368300135569817791/image.png?ex=6818610e&is=68170f8e&hm=41d631c60f6dfd779328bba77441cc5ab0ab5f9b55691c36acd0244abe19e7a8&

[unreal depot]

You what

[white charm]

#1368516880339435540

xd

[wraith pike]

It looks cooler ngl

[lyric patrol]

respectfully, can someone buy me a minecaft 🙏

[daring nexus]

@lyric patrol You can buy the game yourself on the offical Minecraft store.

[lyric patrol]

im broke

[daring nexus]

Then earn money. Asking people to buy you the game is not a good idea nor is it it allowed here.

[tulip belfry]

waarom is elke game ineens in NA

het is geen eens avond xd

&& cc lagged ook mega hrd

veel delay

[spark birch]

talk english

[fathom coyote]

And send servers ids or screenshots instead of hoping I can smell in which server you are

I've got my minecraft open now, so if you have any lag tag me with a server id

[fallow trail]

vooral bedwars

echt irritant

[jaunty oar]

am i the only one who get lag on cubecraft

its so laggy

i click w on sunday i move on monday

[still frigate]

I'm playing on 5 fps

laggy asf

[uneven egret]

gyj07

[frail socket]

hey @fathom coyote

one small problem: /colour command is not working and not worked for ages

[fathom coyote]

Use the UI

[frail socket]

ok. thankfully managed to figure that out

[fringe holly]

hi do you like minecraft java edition

because i like very much

👌 java edition

and what do you like in java

i like equipment

[uneven egret]

@fathom coyote wanneer is deze lag gefixt

[fathom coyote]

I can't really give an ETA, but I've got some profiles now so thank for the id earlier. Dev are and will be looking into it more

[obtuse narwhal]

i changed my colour name when i claimed the free diamond trial rank and im still having the colour in party chat even after the rank expired XD

[fathom coyote]

Incredible issue, we should certainly patch that one asap

[uneven egret]

i think they have bigger fish to fry

[obtuse narwhal]

em no... i dont think its a big problem

[spice eagle]

8k textures

[distant gull]

@ember granite make an elytra map for java ffa bro its been 8 years

2.2k players its gonna be worth it

[still frigate]

@distant gull Please do not ping an admin/staff member for this

[naive bobcat]

there was an elytra map a few months ago but it wasnt a great success

[white charm]

there should be exclusive equipment for dogfights

[distant gull]

thats what they say, then they claim the "stats" talk but its bs those elytra maps have a community who only play them and theres like no issue with removing 1 ground map and having only ONE elytra map

everytime there was an ely map it was almost instantly going full but the map ratio was just so bad

[minor pollen]

elytra in ffa was horrible what

constant swim glitch

constantly a guy bowing you from the ather

or a full shop guy flying in then out

[white charm]

this is why i proposed a kit designed to deal with shoppers

[still frigate]

Elytra is bad in ffa

But I think we need mace

Even if I hate it

[lapis trench]

So I’m in the middle of pillars of fortune, and my mouse dies. Game ends and starts me on a new one.

Go to charge my mouse, as I’m waiting I get a breeze rod. I’m like are you serious??? Charge my mouse to 1% and wind charge the other players left and win the game. Mouse then dies again after I leave game

[white charm]

i have like

a concept kit for this LOL

but with /shop disabled for the kit

and yeah it's designed to deal with shoppers

[graceful sun]

https://www.cubecraft.net/forums/suggestions/

[white charm]

https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/ffa-kits-and-shop-overhaul.384233/

[graceful sun]

Doing gods work 🙏

[trail marsh]

Guys

What’s the ip

[proper radish]

play.cubecraft.net

[lyric patrol]

respectfully, can someone buy me minecaft 🙏

[spark birch]

@daring nexus she is all yours 🫡

[cinder shore]

Respectfully, your employer :)

[lyric patrol]

am i cooked?

[spark birch]

yes

[lyric patrol]

real

bye bye 🫡

ill come back after getting a minecraft

[spark birch]

you know, when a mod warns you its probably not a smart move to do the exact same thing again

[lyric patrol]

wait wait

i got warned?!

i forgot

is it allowed to take back my

uh

[lyric patrol]

beg

[lyric patrol]

i didnt see that one....

[shut parcel]

bring back tower defence bro 🙏

[opaque sphinx]

why do allat

if they can fix their server lag first

[distant token]

is anyone playing?

[spark birch]

yeah about 1399 players

[unreal depot]

2200 peak 🙏

[obtuse narwhal]

where do i see that 24h peak

[spark birch]

https://minetrack.me

[still frigate]

@spark birch can you please tell me how much players on pillars rn if ur online ty

[spark birch]

I'm not online

[still frigate]

its okay ig

ty

[still frigate]

tyy

[still frigate]

when friend add me on dc 😭

[fathom coyote]

I did sent you a f req?

[still frigate]

discord

u did on mc i think

[fathom coyote]

oh dc

I'd rather not add too many people on dc

[still frigate]

I wont even talk to u on dc

but its ale

alr*

[modest schooner]

then why wanna add em

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-20411229

[still frigate]

why not

[onyx surge]

@thin musk congrats on improving the java playercounts to 2k+!

[modest schooner]

Definitely his achievment and not just the movie doing its thing

[modest schooner]

Idk feels to me like u just wanna have a staff in ur friends list

Which is goofy

[still frigate]

only on Cubecraft lol

[hollow egret]

can i get banned for having autoclicker installed but never used it and never gonna use it in cubecraft but just having it installed

cus i am using it in my friends server

only

[spark birch]

no, cubecraft cannot detect it if you are not using it

[hollow egret]

thank you so much

[unreal depot]

only if you arent? :p

[spark birch]

?

[unreal depot]

i mean there definitely people that are acing that dont get detected

[spark birch]

yeah

[modern latch]

anyone egg or bedwars?

[digital narwhal]

ye

[spark birch]

you like parkour?

you wanna join a community for world record hunters on cubecraft parkour?

[digital narwhal]

sure

[digital narwhal]

sure

[hushed coral]

yo why out of sudden am i getting targetted in like every game

4 games in a row i jump to the bottom and get jumped by other 2 ppl no matter what items they have

[spark birch]

its probably because you smell good

[hushed coral]

i dont know if thats like means something or nothing

[limber ibex]

What is the use of Sentinel ? The games are litterally full of cheaters, and reporting them don't do anything ???

[tulip belfry]

/color /coulor command werkt niet. is er een andere manier om mijn naamkleur aan te passen?

[unreal depot]

loot > chat settings

[tulip belfry]

where?

[unreal depot]

loot

as in the item in your hotbar

in the lobby

[tulip belfry]

ahh

i see

thx

[unreal depot]

nw :)

[native bramble]

how do you look up players

[spark birch]

depends what things you want to look up

[native bramble]

profile

[spark birch]

you mean their cubecraft profile?

[native bramble]

yea

[spark birch]

there is not really one, but you can right click players in the lobby to see their stats

[native bramble]

oh alr

[wise hare]

i wonder what's going on here now.

[last bridge]

Sad I remember on 2017 Cube reached 27k players per day

[hearty cargo]

Bedrock?

[last bridge]

Java

[hearty cargo]

The server wasn't it even available for bedrock back then 🥲

[last bridge]

Ikr

[hearty cargo]

Yeah and you could vote for free

Right?

Now they just buy the subscription and choose op to make you hate the game

[last bridge]

I Don’t remember

[last bridge]

Yeah no perm ranks

Anymore

[last bridge]

It isnt bad with half hp

[hearty cargo]

Op items make the game last x10 more

Snake check your dms

[last bridge]

Yeah I remember My longest game on eggwars was like 2.5 hour

[hearty cargo]

Sent you a request

[hearty cargo]

☠️

[still frigate]

.

[distant token]

dm me for play

[unreal depot]

I mean it reached a peak of 27k it never had anything near that many players daily

Actually not 27k

All time high is 18k

[white charm]

@spare skiff paw

mrrp mrrow

[fathom coyote]

Minetrack only has data from 2016/10

[unreal depot]

Well he did say 2017 cube

[fathom coyote]

Memories tend to be wrong and in the upwards direction I suppose

[spark birch]

well, of all the servers that were big during those years there are exactly 0 still big
cube is doing quite well tbh, seeing how players and servers change it can be hard to adapt

[last bridge]

Nah they Just Don’t care About Java anymore

Main reason why half of the players Quit

[gentle linden]

cube becoming more laggy everyday 😭

[still frigate]

nah

[gentle linden]

ye

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/kex2HVIQ7FEc1svoE?invite=cr-MSx3cmwsMzIzOTIwMzY

how fights looks rn:

[minor pollen]

i see nothing wrong here this is normal

[gentle linden]

fr

[minor pollen]

last time i showed a clip about lag here i was told i was bad and i shouldve just had better aim

while i was being 5 blocked

[fathom coyote]

sounds like a skill issue to me

[gentle linden]

90% of hits are like that 😭

[gentle linden]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/kdD6C2Trb3uJ04fgF?invite=cr-MSxpMTQsMzIzOTIwMzY

[minor pollen]

LOLL

[unreal depot]

It was mostly because you said it was an insane advantage while you were also missing half your hits

[vocal spruce]

Glad I am not the only one facing this problem

[white charm]

@ember granite weaponizing creaking hearts when

[shut parcel]

i remember there were these maps with like 36 people and 6 teams

it was so goated

it was like 2019 or 2018

[last bridge]

I think you mean tea party

[shut parcel]

i was 8 😭🙏

[last bridge]

Map

[shut parcel]

i am not sure

what it was

tbf

and solo eggwars was sadly removed a few years back

[last bridge]

Yeah good old days I was probably 15

XD

[shut parcel]

lol

oh wait

do u recall tower defence

by any chance

i miss ts so much i played it every day non stop

[last bridge]

I Dont think they will care About the java amymore

[shut parcel]

well can you even blame them

java is so dead for some reason

in general

so many old and good servers are down

the hive mineplex

[uneven egret]

2000 players is not dead bro

[shut parcel]

it was 10k daily before bro

and in not peak hours too

[last bridge]

I think The main reason is the java is not a money grap anymore

[spark birch]

yeah 10 years ago

[uneven egret]

holy yap

its always the same thing bro

[spark birch]

ikr

and when I have to agree with Zelf you know its bad

[uneven egret]

fr

[shut parcel]

yh

[shut parcel]

hopefully it keeps going up

magically

[last bridge]

They will probably Delete it on the Future

[shut parcel]

most likely

well it is really unfortunate

[last bridge]

I dont think So

[shut parcel]

it is so sad seeing minecraft java fall to bedrock edition

[last bridge]

Btw if they Delete it thats mean rip my money but Idc tbh

[shut parcel]

why

[wraith juniper]

someone wanna play ?

[last bridge]

Because its Literally dead

[wraith juniper]

pillars of fortune

[shut parcel]

i mean how much money u spent

[last bridge]

Like 200$

[shut parcel]

ON WHAT 😭🙏

[last bridge]

Obi rank

As I remember

[shut parcel]

wild

btw

[last bridge]

+plus

[shut parcel]

do u perhaps know

what happened to emerald and gold rank

cuz i stopped playing cc that much when they removed tower defence

[last bridge]

Idk I Dont See it anymore

[shut parcel]

it was around that time the server had some rework or idk

[last bridge]

No perm ranks anymore

[shut parcel]

exactly

[spark birch]

^^

[shut parcel]

yeahh ts pmo

[shut parcel]

thx

[last bridge]

Yes

Even hypixel Still have perm ranks

[shut parcel]

btw thats another thing that hypixel is also losing popularity

[still frigate]

MVP+++++++++++++++++++++

[shut parcel]

yh

[last bridge]

its better to buy one time now you buy every month very Exploitative

[shut parcel]

well look

[last bridge]

But the Server is Dead for java

[shut parcel]

they have to make money smh

yk

[last bridge]

Ranks is worthless

Now

[shut parcel]

on bedrock literally EVERYTHING is monetized while on java it is hard to monetize things

it is a business after all

[shut parcel]

yeah it is barely staying alive

[last bridge]

Bedrock pvp is bad I Don’t know how they get fun from it its Literally like I Click on clash royal or Something

[shut parcel]

and building too

[last bridge]

And never be

Im OG tho

I miss 2017-2019 days

[shut parcel]

the whole gameplay on bedrock tbf

[last bridge]

Cube was in his prime

[shut parcel]

last years java was popular

[vocal spruce]

Same

[vocal spruce]

2020 too but thats understandable

[shut parcel]

bc of covid

i found some statistics

[last bridge]

in fact probably all the OG players Quited

[shut parcel]

cc had almost 10k active players in 2023 june

[last bridge]

yeah but not the gold days

[spark birch]

I'm literally standing right here

[shut parcel]

they are old now bro

i am playing since 2019 i think when i was 9

but i dont really remember anything 😭

[last bridge]

Nice how old are you now? Xd

[spark birch]

22 😄

[shut parcel]

holy unc

[last bridge]

Same 😅

[spark birch]

🤝

[shut parcel]

do you have jobs guys

[spark birch]

ofc

[shut parcel]

nahh 🙏🙏

[spark birch]

you would be surprised how many "old" people play mc regularly

mc is 15 years old yk, so all the old players grew up

[last bridge]

I will probably will get married

[still frigate]

in case you care I dont

[last bridge]

Soon

[shut parcel]

yeah

[spark birch]

lemme dig up some old ss's

[shut parcel]

well done

[shut parcel]

i remember that the generators changed at some point

[still frigate]

in case u care im 15

[spark birch]

2019 lobby

[last bridge]

🥲🥲

[shut parcel]

CRAZY

[spark birch]

pls note the playercount being lower then it is now

[still frigate]

NAH

[shut parcel]

😭😭😭

[last bridge]

I still remember old Cube clans like Elite, GM, LT, zWR

Good old days

[spark birch]

all except Elite are dead

[last bridge]

Lol really?

[spark birch]

yep :c

[still frigate]

wait EGGWARS 700 PLAYERS?

crazy

[spark birch]

Entity was the last one to fall, a few months ago

[last bridge]

I was on LT tho

[shut parcel]

yh now it is barely 200

[last bridge]

6 years ago

[shut parcel]

on a good day

[still frigate]

150

[spark birch]

oo hype

[shut parcel]

my bad

[shut parcel]

i had a friend on entity

[still frigate]

I just miss old eggwars maps

[last bridge]

Does GM is still alive?

[shut parcel]

yeah bro i rejoined cc a week ago

[spark birch]

some of the players are still around but the clan is officially closed

[shut parcel]

DUDE WHAT DID THEY DO TO FOOD

[last bridge]

I remember it was a big clan

[spark birch]

Alexis_GM has been playing recently

[spark birch]

oo who?

[last bridge]

Also OL

[shut parcel]

not really friend we were just from the same country

[last bridge]

I think Cube is Start dead when The FFA servers is Start opening and the players Start taking Sowrd tiers to Srs and Stop carrying about getting fun

[shut parcel]

what

[spark birch]

yeah tiers are pretty lame

[last bridge]

Yeah its bad probably its the main reason why Cube is Start Dead they all are a Clowns

[spark birch]

nah tiers is only in the ffa community, and its still pretty popular on cube

[vocal spruce]

Definitely not lol

But atleast there were people

[last bridge]

Ik but I think who care About it to much is Just a nolifer

[vocal spruce]

And full lobbies

[last bridge]

The best is 2018 I think

[spark birch]

2018 was really dead

2019 too, there were less players then now

but then 2020 obviously revived with covid

and 2021 average 4k online

[last bridge]

Yes but after 2021 rip

XD

[spark birch]

yeah in 2022 they announced that they would update to newer versions and that 75% of the games would be removed

[last bridge]

Yep

[atomic rain]

🥲

[last bridge]

I dont think The new gen care About Cube craft

[vocal spruce]

For sure

Early 2019 too

[vocal spruce]

It should be revived

I miss minerware dude

Or team skywars

[last bridge]

SG!!

Dules

Everything xdd

Block wars was also good

[spark birch]

true

[spark birch]

the entire Elite clan enters the chat

[last bridge]

XD

Does 3alal Still playing?

[atomic rain]

Tower Defense :c

[last bridge]

Didn't liked it to much Actually

[spark birch]

nope he quit years ago

[last bridge]

Oh

[atomic rain]

I used to dislike Tower Defense, until the time I learned how to actually play it, then it was fun, but I can see why it wasn't the favorite gamemode for everyone

[spark birch]

@winged aspen

[last bridge]

How many players on elite now?

[last bridge]

Nice

[shut parcel]

i played cc every day for 6-7 hours bro

[shut parcel]

what was this about

the name is so familiar but i cannot recall it for some reason

[last bridge]

I was playing like 24 hours every day XD

[shut parcel]

i loved tower defence sm bro it was so relaxing

afteer playing eggwars

[atomic rain]

Luckily we are seeing some good peaks again of 1.9-2k the last time, which is of course different than what it used to be, but definitely better than what it used to be

[shut parcel]

it is bc of pillars of fortune

[atomic rain]

Usually after a few matches of pvp games, I used to hop on Skyblock or Minerware haha

[shut parcel]

so real

[last bridge]

Nice I though you will Say 5 or 7 xd

[shut parcel]

i js remembered minerware

why did they remove it 😭😭

[atomic rain]

Minerware had some issues to get filled up, and quite oftenly long waiting times for a game to start

[shut parcel]

i dont understand why were minerware and tower defence removed when they were
first very unique game modes by idea and format

and second that they were non pvp

[atomic rain]

This was the main reason for those iirc

[shut parcel]

thats rlly sad

[spark birch]

35 atm, our best ever was like 72 tho, in 2021

[spark birch]

I can totally see the new plyerbase from pillars loving minerwaree

[last bridge]

Wow nice

[atomic rain]

It is, it is/was a really good gamemode :c

[last bridge]

Not So Dead at all

[shut parcel]

btw

do u know when was the first clan create

created

[shut parcel]

it was

[shut parcel]

exactly pillars is doing so good

[atomic rain]

They might indeed, as it's randomized aswell

[last bridge]

LT was has 50 member tho as I remember

[atomic rain]

Not sure how Minerware is doing on Bedrock, but I feel like it's not too inactive there

[shut parcel]

in hypixel there are a lot of games that are like rolling on days so it could be a nice addition to cc too with some of the old gamemodes

[spark birch]

no I've got no clue
I know the first big clan was The CP in 2016 (which later turned into Elite in 2017)

[last bridge]

So elite not only for 1.9 So of course it will be huge as GM

[vocal spruce]

I would LOVE to have it back

Was so fun with parties aswell

And ccr back 😏

[shut parcel]

yeah

[atomic rain]

Are they 'reviving' aswell? The last time I was online all of those arcade games barely had any players/

[spark birch]

300 players atm, which is more then parkour and SG

[shut parcel]

woahh i remember being in lobbys in eggwars 10vs10 with clans

[atomic rain]

What is CCR again 👀

[vocal spruce]

Cubecraft ranked

[spark birch]

no it was 1.9 from the start

[atomic rain]

Ohhh yes, thanks

[atomic rain]

That's not great, but not terrible either

[last bridge]

There was a lot of 1.8 players was on it as I remember on my days

[shut parcel]

no really sure but they are literally milking skyblock

[spark birch]

not really, hypixel has not seen the same increase in players cube/gommehd/donutsmp/hoplite has seen recently

[shut parcel]

they havent updated most of the unique and cool old arcade games for idk how long

[spark birch]

legend

[vocal spruce]

I miss that bruh

[spark birch]

my server :pepelaughing:

[vocal spruce]

It's a shame they removed skywars teams aswell, I do believe the playerbase would rise again if they implement it back

[atomic rain]

This was more meant by this message -> #☕︱java message which I might've interpreted wrongly, but we see Hypixel being more consistent than a CubeCraft as an example

[shut parcel]

well

the games theyt are rolling

are not getting numbers

i mean the arcade games

but hypixel is literally focusing only on skyblock

[last bridge]

Best games on Cube was skywars and eggwars and mineware

[shut parcel]

yh

the previous cc maps were also so cool bro

[atomic rain]

I really love to see that we are getting some new non/semi-pvp gamemodes aswell, as Pillars and Disasters contain a bit of pvp, but are not directly focused on it

[last bridge]

Does Snakes map is still there?

Best map for me

I remember I Got 11ks game on it

[atomic rain]

Snakes is not an active map at this point, but it could return with the maps rotation again 😄

[shut parcel]

snakes on what mode was

[atomic rain]

Skywars

[shut parcel]

yeah

[shut parcel]

ooh

[last bridge]

I probably Didn't ever lost on it no joke

[atomic rain]

You can find the most recent added maps here https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/java-map-rotations-20th-march-2025.381688/ 😄

[spark birch]

playercounts on hypixel right now:

Skyblock: 22.500
Bedwars: 4.700
Housing: 900
Duels: 700
Build battle: 600
Arcade games: 500
Skywars: 450
Murder Mystery: 400
Disasters: 250
The Pit: 250
TNT games: 150
Wool games: 100
Mega Walls: 100
UHC: 60
Blitz SG: 50
Cops and crims: 40
Classic games: 30
Smash Heroes: 10
War Lords: 0

[shut parcel]

EXACTLY

LIKE

bro they are genuinely milking skyblock to the fullest possible point

[atomic rain]

The difference of Skyblock and even the number 2 bedwars is huge, wow

[shut parcel]

i remember hypixel had like 100k players before or idk

[atomic rain]

Especially after the times BedWars used to be the most popular game

[atomic rain]

Peak of 216762 on April 16, 2021

[shut parcel]

it gets repepetive

[last bridge]

Its Still much active than Cube tho

[shut parcel]

yh

i really do NOT know how 😭

btw do u guys know of other java edition servers

[last bridge]

Im waiting thier new game which is called hytale or Something

[shut parcel]

i play a lot of Zombies and Dropper there

but thats rlly it

[atomic rain]

The issue with Hytale is that has been announced in 2018(?), then there was an extreme hype on it, however that has severely decreased as it takes extremely long to release

[spark birch]

top 5 biggest java servers:
Hypixel
DonutSMP
Minehut
Wynncraft
MushMC

[last bridge]

For pvp there is valed and stray now

1.9 Btw

[shut parcel]

what even is it about

[shut parcel]

thanks

[vocal spruce]

Donutsmp 2nd?

[atomic rain]

I understand that it takes long to release an entire game, but they shouldn't have announced so early

[vocal spruce]

Never wouldve guessed

[spark birch]

yeah easily

[atomic rain]

Yep

[spark birch]

last weekend they peaked at 29k

[vocal spruce]

I just miss old minecraft in general

[last bridge]

We all miss it

[vocal spruce]

We need the hive back

Peak cubecraft

[atomic rain]

I think it was announced as "a better version of minecraft" or something related to it, never actually took a full dive into the hype 😅

[last bridge]

With the new gen it feel boring

[vocal spruce]

Peak ddg 😂

[atomic rain]

That's some time ago aswell haha

[vocal spruce]

They will never catch those levels again

Will tell you that

[atomic rain]

I don't feel like any server will get back to their peak days, since alot of people also moved on with their lifes, and just maybe even forgot about the game. Deleted accounts that were not migrated, and don't feel like buying a new account

[vocal spruce]

Most of the time people move to other servers that are just popular on yt, tiktok yk

And then forget about other stuff ofc

[last bridge]

This server does not die I think if it closed. Mc will be closed too xd

[atomic rain]

I don't necessairly see that happen, as we see them just moving on to different servers, which CubeCraft is a part of when they have some down time

[shut parcel]

in general yeah

and with so many new games

[fathom coyote]

Closed what, wasn't they just friends anyway lol

[atomic rain]

Exactly, of course I miss the older days aswell, especially the ones between 2015 and 2018, but new versions are bringing alot of new features, which does mean cube has way more features available

[spark birch]

no Entity was a proper clan
with recruitment, clan roles and join requirements

[fathom coyote]

No GM lol

[spark birch]

ah oop

[fathom coyote]

It was just nerf and friends lagging in EggWars™️

[last bridge]

The owners of it Quit long time ago

[spark birch]

its debated a bit, there was a fake GM clan, but the big old one we all know was a friendgroup that looked a lot like a clan I think

[fathom coyote]

Yh I mean the one with Nerf

[spark birch]

pretty sure they did call themself a clan but it was very casual

[fathom coyote]

Mmh fair enough

[last bridge]

Nerf. Bacup. Lider I think they all Quit

[fathom coyote]

Donot is mco and java

[spark birch]

yeah but at all times their players are 85-90% java, as their dev told me

[fathom coyote]

And minehut also doesn't reallyyyy count cause it's just a bunch servers like anternos

[spark birch]

still, thats like 2500 bedrock players which would be a huge bedrock server by itself

[fathom coyote]

Didn't know. That's fair then

[spark birch]

fair

then Complex Gaming enters into the top 5

this is following my own method of ranking the servers tho, so the exactly ranking is somewhat depending on who u ask

[rose lintel]

a

[unreal depot]

Literally the most active it has been in years why would it be closed any time soon

[unreal depot]

Keep waiting 🙏

[last bridge]

Because its not a money grap anymore I think

[unreal depot]

where do i make a player safety report about people in the discord?

[last bridge]

Bedrock now is the most played

Sadly

[last bridge]

Lol

[unreal depot]

nothing to do with you

someone has dmd about 'wanting to play on my account which hell pay money for'

[last bridge]

Idc tho

[unreal depot]

he also coincidentally has a discord server where he sells account

[unreal depot]

then why reply

[unreal depot]

@fathom coyote ?

(sry for ping)

[last bridge]

Nothing free time probably

[fathom coyote]

Same place

https://www.cubecraft.net/forums/player-safety.124/

[winged aspen]

RIP Tower Defense

Best CC game ever

Is CubeCraft Java still alive even?

[spark birch]

@winged aspen ^^

[winged aspen]

steady ig

[still frigate]

realll

[spark birch]

a massive inrease

[still frigate]

Yas

[spark birch]

we are now basically as big as wynncraft, we peak at almost exactly the same but we do dip further down in off-hours cuz wynn is more international

[winged aspen]

ah, okay. idk the numbers from CC anymore lol

what's the most popular minigame now?

[spark birch]

Pillars of Fortune

by far

peaks at 700 players
then second place are like 5 games which all peak at 150-250

[winged aspen]

new game huh

[still frigate]

beta

[spark birch]

also Bedwars and Disasters are new

both very mediocre if not bad

but pillars is good

[violet hare]

Are those ranked by average players or peak, because UniversoCraft peaks like 4-5k , maybe even 6k I think

[spark birch]

Like I said its ranked by my own method, but the value is "biggest server" not "peak players or average players"

[violet hare]

So how do you rank them?

[spark birch]

basically if a server has 1k+ in all 3 timezones its gonna rank higher then a server which only appears in 1 or 2, even if these 1 or 2 have more players then the other server

Universocraft is also cracked btw, so wouldn't make that top 5 anyways
but their players in 3 timezones are: less then 1k - 4000 - 5100
while complex has: 1450 - 2000 - 1700

will make the full list available later

[violet hare]

Well you didnt say no cracked servers in that message

mb

[spark birch]

true I did assume the guy was not looking for cracked servers, as he is a premium user

[violet hare]

cracked are fun, you barely lose

[spark birch]

they are all 1.8 pvp tho

but if u want the biggest cracked servers I can also provide that

[violet hare]

most yes, but some are for both 1.8 and newest

like jartex and pikanetwork who have survival stuff

[spark birch]

pika network ranks 27th and jartex 43rd

[violet hare]

Bc they have no premium players?

[spark birch]

idk why, but thats their ranking in the overall top servers, both premium and cracked

both only appear in 2 timezones tho

meaning the highest they could get is 23rd, since 22 servers appear in all 3 timezones

[violet hare]

Send that ranking pls

[spark birch]

will make it public soon

there'll be a YT vid about it

Cube is on it too ofc

it was made a month ago tho, so before cube saw 2k regularly

[unreal depot]

Both?

Bw is outperforming a lot of games

[fathom coyote]

3rd lowest mean in the last 30 days

Only parkour and skywars are below

Oh wait I should probably use average since there is more datapoint when it's more active

[unreal depot]

Yes but if I look at this

Egg is basically the same

[fathom coyote]

Nvm mean is average

[unreal depot]

And bw has a lot more players at its lowest

Which is something that dreamer seems to care about

[fathom coyote]

14 higher, 16%

[unreal depot]

Mean 104 and 105

[fathom coyote]

That's 2 days

[unreal depot]

So what’s the more ‘correct’ graph?

[fathom coyote]

They're all "correct". 2 days just isn't a very useful timeframe for how well a games gets players

[unreal depot]

Yes thats why I put it in the uh ‘’

[fathom coyote]

I'm on my phone and this image generation of grafana puts it left instead of under lol

Looks a bit crammed like this

[unreal depot]

Disasters 109?

[fathom coyote]

Ignore disasters

[unreal depot]

If only I could actually read this graph and they aren’t all crammed xd

[fathom coyote]

The only counts for that are me testing. Laby has to accept changes still

It's just pof - all rest - parkour tbh

[unreal depot]

But if I look at this bw seems to perform pretty similar to most games

[unreal depot]

Poor parkour

[fathom coyote]

A little below but yeah, they're all within ± 10%

There is however much more data when there is more players, I'm unsure how this affects the values. But it's the same amount for all games equally, so maybe it's not an issue

[unreal depot]

So you’re saying that games with higher peaks might have a higher represented mean than they actually have?

[fathom coyote]

No I'm saying that there is more datapoint / time when there are more players online

[unreal depot]

Or is it just about all players online

Yea so games that would perform more steadily throughout the day would get a lower represented mean wouldn’t they?

[fathom coyote]

I'm not saying anything about the effects of that because I don't know

[unreal depot]

Like uh parkour

[unreal depot]

Oh fair

[fathom coyote]

I mean, all games go up and down the same tbh

Like the player count haha

Parkour just can't go much down ig

[unreal depot]

Yes of course mostly the same but parkour doesn’t need other players to start

And you can’t always play all other games

[unreal depot]

😔

[fathom coyote]

Parkour last two days

Wow almost 50 players. Kinda crazy

[unreal depot]

That’s kinda not terrible

[fathom coyote]

Yeah, didn't know see that coming

[unreal depot]

What

Why do I have a cube tag

[fathom coyote]

Cause you enabled it

[unreal depot]

yea but like i just got this option

is it new?

eh ig its cool

[fathom coyote]

tags aren't, but the CUBE one is yeah

Cam did it today

[spark birch]

I assume they finally started rolling it out? Do you know if smaller servers will get it too?

I assume so, since it seems to be tied to server boost

[fathom coyote]

I've got no idea

I don't really follow/know dc stuff

[unreal depot]

elite tag when

[spark birch]

yeah once our server gets it I will enable it for sure

[unreal depot]

also why are some names so glowy in this server

weird effect

[spark birch]

yeah I noticed it too

prob new

[still frigate]

I love it

[fathom coyote]

yeah also new

looks like someone spilled water on it

[unreal depot]

Thought my screen was just buggy when it was only your name xd

[shut parcel]

dude

i was playing eggwars

and i got disconnected randomly while trying to break an egg

the whole server crashed

[fossil stag]

weird coincidence?

[fathom coyote]

If it's a server crash; open a ticket with a screenshot of the error message next time this happens

[white charm]

https://modrinth.com/mod/flw-vanillin

flywheel

[spice eagle]

What is this? Also what should I use this for? :D

[white charm]

Vanillin is a performance mod

using Create's Flywheel

[spice eagle]

But what should I use it for? Is like what is the difference between this and sodium for an example. What kinda performance does it boost?

[white charm]

it handles entity and block entity rendering

not sure about sodium compatibility

as I haven't tested it

(i'm on 1.21.4 lol)

however

Flywheel 1.0, and therefore Vanillin, is currently incompatible with shaders. Work is underway to make first party compat between Flywheel and shaders a reality, but no time estimates can be made.

[spice eagle]

Ohh I see. So good for skyblock?

[white charm]

not compatible with shaders yet

[white charm]

probably

[unreal depot]

just use this

https://modrinth.com/modpack/sop/versions

[sharp isle]

How do I get into a solo eggwars

Am only getting to 4s

[still frigate]

we dont have

[sharp isle]

Poor java players

[still frigate]

spam click player 💔🥀

[spice eagle]

me on my alt :p

[obtuse narwhal]

bring back solo eggwars :(

[white charm]

heads-up for any PojavLauncher players out here

from sodium X.X.13 (0.5.13 and 0.6.13) onwards, the mod will intentionally crash

[obsidian geyser]

.

[still frigate]

ok

.

[stray saddle]

I just got banned for 6 days for trying to make a viddddddddddddddddd

[civic burrow]

yellow

[last bridge]

Bellow

[still frigate]

Hello, you didnt

nobody will ban u for making a cubecraft video

[spark birch]

what is your ign?

[tough egret]

hello

[quick rune]

hi]

pl

how to join this server in pc

im newwwwww

[frail socket]

play.cubecraft.net

join with this ip

[quick rune]

tqqq

username lets be friends

?

[frail socket]

sorry nah

[quick rune]

okayy

[hushed coral]

wtf have they made all pillars games 20 players

whyyyy

such a downgrade

id rather have it as a setting for players with a rank

[spark birch]

yeah its bad :c
way too many players for the game to handle

its way less skill based now

I would be down for like 12 but not this many

[hushed coral]

spawning in middle is like death

unless u get lucky and bridge up quickly

or drop down safely before anyone else (youll still die to the random guy out of like 15 who will drop a warden there or sacrifice their lives just to kill you)

idk if this is actually a concern but the amount of effort to beat the lb players who sit at 16k wins is diabolical

all games will last max time

and much more chance to lose due to sheer rng

[spark birch]

@ember granite pls reverse

[hushed coral]

they will sit at top spots for YEARS

if the thing isnt reversed

i get it, it may benefit the casual playerbase

but competitive or somewhat grindy ppl will quit immediately xd

[ember granite]

Okay chill, we're going to monitor the data. 20 players works on Bedrock, so we wanted to see about adding it to Java and testing it out.

[spark birch]

I get that it is a test but why not gradually increase it?

What data will u monitor? player opinions?

[ember granite]

Player count and queue times.

Also it was easier to change the game to use the Bedrock world, as it was just a line change, compared to needing to make new maps for each existing map for different pillar counts. Making 7 (or how many maps there are) for 12 players then 16, just painful.

[spark birch]

the first opinions are not looking good

[spark birch]

sure, but what was the idea behind the change in the first place?

[hushed coral]

there wasnt

./lh

yo im not even gonna talk about those spawns in crystal and vine map

whole point kinda vanishes

[languid wigeon]

Yea the update is kinda goofy

[spark birch]

I get that the mistake is made when planning, sounds like worth a try on paper
but 1 look at the maps and I had the urge to log off... it is objective unbalanced with some of the pillar placements and so much more skillbased

[hushed coral]

grr i dont like how cant i post images

[spark birch]

u gotta link ur account

[hushed coral]

i just linked

why havent i gained it or it takes some time

oh there

anyways im here to post this image

isnt this a bit absurd xd

evoker with vexes wipes half the map

that could happen with old player count too but much rarer

[violet prawn]

What game?

[hushed coral]

so how we play this

[spark birch]

well this update has forced my hand... I will now ruin the game for everyone with strats so I can still reliably win

[hushed coral]

wtf theres a guy now just choosing the swapper gamemode

dies himself and takes other 10 players with himself

and queues next

[violet prawn]

20 player in pillars of fortune on java edition??
Impossible

[hushed coral]

exactly

i want the old one back

[violet prawn]

When they change it?

[hushed coral]

today i think

[violet prawn]

Too bad
Old is better

[unreal depot]

Now everyone will just camp :D

[obtuse narwhal]

not easy if u spawn in the middle. i havent tried it myself but yea i also think it wont be a good idea to have 20 players

[violet prawn]

Try play minecraft with hold my item mod

[high sequoia]

Why are weakness arrows a thing in eggwars?

[unreal depot]

To make games last longer :D

[high sequoia]

Bro its annoying asf

U cant hit with ur fists

[glad drum]

This 20 player gamemode is honestly just annoying

[uneven egret]

because they are skillful obviously

[high sequoia]

If some1 like u plays with them yes, but otherwise they are just annoying

[uneven egret]

nah i was joking lol

even thunder made a suggestion to remove them i think

[high sequoia]

BETER

Hahaha

[uneven egret]

was al maanden geleden bro

en is niks veranderd

[high sequoia]

Oh🥲

"STAFF", remove those stupid arrows.. ty very much!

https://tenor.com/view/taco-time-dancing-nido-drums-drums-gif-15307671

[uneven egret]

https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/changes-to-the-weakness-arrows-in-eggwars.379018/

[high sequoia]

Tnx man! Niemand vind die arrows nice dus oprotten zou ik zeggen

[unreal depot]

There are very little egg players that do like weakness arrows I feel like

[unreal depot]

Also fesa has definitely said something about this

But nothing changes

[white charm]

wither arrows

[unreal depot]

What

[white charm]

silly replacement

that'll never be implemented

[ember granite]

So as you know on Bedrock it's 20 players, because the player count can handle that. And when we added PoF to Java, the player count was rather small, so we wanted to make sure games started fast (like bedrock), and make it 8 players. On Bedrock PoF is more fun with more players, makes the game more chaotic and fast, that's just the vibe I got.

We'll keep an eye on the data, and see. One solution could be going back to 8 players, but have a 20 player map in the map selection, like we have had with private games (was made for partners for streams/videos).

[spark birch]

8 worked really well tho... its unfortunate to see the change.
java players will always be more skill oriented and less chaos/casual then bedrock, thats just a fact, so just because something is fun on bedrock does not mean you can add it to java with the same result. You have been doing a lot over the past years to make java more similar to bedrock in both features and look, but besides being easier to code and make changes, it might actually perform worse because the server starts to feel like it lacks a java identity.

Editing the maps to allow for 12 players should be fairly easy, perhaps even with the inner 4 while the outside 8 or 10 are moved slightly back.
But I will not at all complain if it goes back to 8 only, the playercount is high, so why risk controversial updates while it stays high

[vernal ledge]

Please please please please tell me changing pillars to 20 is permanent

completely ruined the gamemode

[ember granite]

It's a calculated risk. And we have data that PoF on Bedrock works really well with 20 players. We're curious to see if impact carries over. I do have a feeling if Java was 20 players to start with, there wouldn't the backlash from this. As it's a trend when we change basically anything on Java, people just aren't going to like it. As said, we'll monitor the graphs and a conclusion will be made on that.

[spark birch]

Yeah you are definitely right about the backlash, if java started with 20 people would enjoy that to some degree too.
I doubt it would see the same level of popularity tho, maybe 25% less or so. The concept, which is what draws the majority of the players, doesn't change, but with it being more chaotic it might give players a feeling like they cannot do well or win, thus reducing the replayability and removing some of that sweet retention rate the game currently has. That feeling to perform is less present on bedrock, as the majority of bedrock players have time and time again told me

[ember granite]

The retention rate on Bedrock is kinda wild for pof, the fact that the game is still pulling 2.5k at peak 1 year later with no updates, that's wild. So the game has retention, probably better than most if not any of our gamemodes. So attempting to replicate that behaviour onto Java doesn't seem farfetched. We'll need to see I guess.

[vernal ledge]

I feel like its not that deep

[spark birch]

yeah but you are trying to replicate a retention rate by copying something from a completely different minded community.
the retention rate is also there for java tho, which is just as surprising

[warped oar]

Wow

[ember granite]

When you say minded community. You’re referring to the competitiveness and only really care about grind and wins right?

Because from my understanding, whenever we make a change, it seems to be only that side that care. Because the game is harder to grind.

[spark birch]

the competitive players are also typically the ones who are active on the social platforms outside of the server itself tho, so you are missing a lot of opinions from the casual players. "competitiveness and only really care about grind and wins" is an overestimation imo, plenty of casual java players, but yeah generally more people will care about that on java then on bedrock

[warped oar]

Honestly swearts ruin a lot of the games on cubecraft

But sometimes they just make you better

Like eggwars

[spark birch]

true, Eggwars had a pretty big tryhard problem (less now that there are more players in general) but Pillars is super far from having a tryhard issue imo

[glad drum]

Another issue with the new pillars update is that in my experience, I've gone 12 matches in a row and there have been at least two pairs of teamers, and people who just hit others off and die by falling with them

[white charm]

also worth noting that teaming is allowed in pof

[high sequoia]

Prob yes.. the noobs that camp and spam their bow will like these arrows

[still frigate]

this java ?

[barren rune]

how about instead of making awful changes to pillars like 20 ppl you add some new maps 💔

[modest schooner]

Just add blockwars 😔

[quiet magnet]

I want 8 player pillars of fortune back 💔

[uneven egret]

they literally made winfarming easier with the latest eggwars update

8/12 player maps are back

and its way harder to play solo because of the item caps etc

[high sequoia]

Anddd 94010183748229laggers in game having a huge advantage

[uneven egret]

there have always been laggers

but its not an advantage imo

[vocal spruce]

Blockwars bridges

[still frigate]

agree

[whole trail]

ip java cube guys?

[vocal spruce]

cubecraft.net

[high sequoia]

True but imo it is bcs they have no kb, have kinda sort of reach and do sometimes double hits😂😂

[unreal depot]

in that case why are you sometimes 100 ms on eu servers

[uneven egret]

prob my vpn bugging out

or just the server idk

im like 10x worse on 100 ms so

[unreal depot]

ye i feel the same way playing on high ping just sucks

but it definitely has its benefits

[high sequoia]

If ur not used to it it does suckkk but those laggers are used to it so they have huge kb advantage

[violet prawn]

Heya

Guys
Which is better?
Critical combo
Or knockback combo?

[spark birch]

its preference and depends on the situation

if you have high ping crit spam is better for example

[violet prawn]

We all know critical is the strongest way
I mean for combo

[violet prawn]

What bout 105-160

[spark birch]

thats called high ping yes

[spark birch]

depends how well u can use it and depends what the other player does

if you can strafe combo well (kb combo) then its super strong too

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/1zhI49QVz63ujr?invite=cr-MSxORVUsMTkxMjE4ODc

[unreal depot]

theres not one 'better' theyre both just techniques that you can use

[lone plank]

#make pillars of fortune 8 players

[fathom coyote]

Crit spam better. Why do less dmg when you could do more

[lament verge]

anyone else having a bug where you just keep flying up every single game

nvm it stopped

[spark birch]

because jumping makes you vulnerable

[fathom coyote]

Sounds like a skill issue to me

[fathom coyote]

We've had some reports of this, but we haven't been able to reproduce this. If you had some steps we'd be happy to hear them

[high sequoia]

Fix is da die weakness arrows weg gaan

[still frigate]

Speak english please, if you want to speak nederlands? go to - #nederlands・general

[high sequoia]

Kzosodbdbx

Alr boss

[sonic cedar]

There's too dang many pillars in pillars now

half the people get jumped right away and don't have time to do anything

[daring nexus]

Unleash the chaos

[vernal ledge]

Lmao they will never admit they made a mistake with the update

[sonic cedar]

Chaos isn't supposed to be boring

I feel like some middle ground between the amount of pillars there were before and the amount there are now, just so somebody can't immediately jump off their pillar and take somebody out

[vernal ledge]

Exactly

[sonic cedar]

I do streams with friends where we go on cubecraft to do minigames, usually lucky islands and pillars. I got diamond rank to accomodate our group size.

I'm not sure the current state of it is gonna be as appealing as it was. Harder to get decent content out of, too

[ember granite]

Yeah did that when it was 8 players, every time I played, they all jumped lol, I was like 👀 - only really happened on maps where it was safe to jump, water or vines etc.

[high sequoia]

Okay do something about those stupid laggers in eggwars bro wtf

Bcs of the lag they have anti kb, reach, double hits, …….

[spark birch]

I think he means you can jump to other pillars with 1 block

the players GET jumped

[sonic cedar]

No I mean jumping at somebody else right away. With 20 pillars and the same space, you have a lot of people within jump distance of each other, and there's always people who are happy to just jump and hit somebody else off

[ember granite]

For the people curious, as I'm keeping an eye on the data. The graphs are showing, queue times have basically halved (which is very good), servers opened for pof is a lot lower (expected as there's more players on maps, this is good from an infrastructure and cost pov 🎉).

And the player count is higher today compared to 7 days ago. But a tiny bit lower compared to 1 month ago, going to assume that's because 1 month ago was peak Spring holidays.

[spark birch]

and this channel sees people complain regularly, the data is not everything cam

[ember granite]

I can't think of anything more that I disagree with lol, but pop off queen

[spark birch]

uhhh that comment is not needed mate

[ember granite]

Just my honest opinion, would you rather me not say anything?

[spark birch]

you could have said it in a less passive agressive way

[ember granite]

nah it was more a bit of cam sass

But yeah data is everything, it's the most fundamental factor when decision making. Community feedback is useful, but when you have a network of 300k+ users daily, you can't really make decisions from a couple 10s of people in a Discord channel. Surely you know that most make sense 😄

For example, if we pushed an update to a game, and a channel was flooded with complaints and everyone saying they hated it, but the player count doubled, would you suggest we revert the update?

[high sequoia]

Look Cam its easy u got just 2 jobs to do
Job1; remove weakness arrows
Job2; make pillars normal again

[spark birch]

yeah but the playercount is not doubling,
an update can be disliked, but not disliked enough for people to stop playing

[ember granite]

From our point of view, we have made a change, which has halved queue times, reduced servers needed which cuts server costs, and the player count is a little higher than last week. Seems like a win to me. But again, we'll be reviewing the data over the coming weeks to see if anything changes. But so far, so good.

Anyway, it's getting late now, imma walk home.

[spark birch]

what are queue times tho

whenever I play it takes like a single second to fill up

[vernal ledge]

Yeah lmao

It literally takes me longer to get into a game and for it to actually start now with 20 people

[still frigate]

why not make 8 ppls and 20

[vernal ledge]

True

I wonder if 20 would work if they didn’t use maps that clearly weren’t designed for 20

[still frigate]

yea it is pretty good

[violet prawn]

Well, when the enemy uses knockback, critical will be usless

[fathom coyote]

Sounds like a skill issue

[sonic cedar]

12 people is a good middle ground, and I've always had near instant queues for bedrock pillars

[vernal ledge]

Agreed

And same

It just doesn’t make sense to me that as soon as the game starts you can instantly jump and hit someone off without any blocks

[violet prawn]

When will CubeCraft end hacking players??!

Bro i cant play normaly

Especially ffa!

[daring nexus]

Never will be a time

You can record and report cheaters via the reports site if you wish to see them get banned

[unreal depot]

Well the data is obviously still influenced by the game recently being changed

I think it’s a bit to early to tell if this update was good for the playercount

[unreal depot]

Great point I should have though of that

[ember granite]

Erm yeah, that’s kinda expected 🤨 - that’s the whole idea lol

But yeah, it’s so far so good, will keep monitoring of course before concluding.

[unreal depot]

… I mean that the reason it’s more popular is partially due to it being new, and not because people enjoy it more

[ember granite]

You mean the change of 20 players being new?

[unreal depot]

But ig reducing server costs is worth it regardless which makes sense

[unreal depot]

Yes

[ember granite]

Yeah. Player count I guess, but that wouldn’t change queue times. Will keep an eye out for trends.

[unreal depot]

Hm? I don’t have a lot of knowledge about this but wouldn’t player count have a converse relation with queue times?

[ember granite]

Not really, if the player count was 300 or 400, queue times would be the same tbh. It’s the size of the game that matters for queue times, getting into new games, filling them up. We are talking about 3 seconds changing to 1.5 seconds, as PoF has good queue times anyway.

I’ve requested game start times, as I’d want to track that too.

[stuck bough]

why are there 20 players bro sob

yeah pillars of fortune is hot garbage now

[somber salmon]

Actually, I don’t mind the change to 20 players. But what I do find unfair is that people already got 15k wins in a gamemode which takes less time and has a bigger chance to win due to there being less players. If the game got released recently I wouldve understand it more, but now its kind of a different game. Shouldnt it have a new leaderboard like cake wars duos/solo’s/teams has.

[modest schooner]

Caring about leaderboard/wins is weird

Just enjoy the game

But for example look at the number of updates to eggwars that drastically changed the games meta

Yet no new leaderboard was ever introduced

[somber salmon]

Thats an odd thing to say. You could debunk my statement. But saying its weird is kind of rude.

I have like 100 wins. Its not like I care that much. I just remember the times I used to play more for stats I did care. So I could assume that it would be unfair for players that try to reach leaderboards.

[somber salmon]

In my opinion, ive never seen game updates change that drastically that it changes the chance to win or the game time. A player difference of 12 is alot.

But I could be wrong.

[graceful sun]

Its not a weird thing to say but you have to remember that there are two sides of a coin.
Yes for new players its now quite hard to be on the leaderboard as you have a lesser chance of winning. However resetting the leaderboard (something we’ve never really done iirc) what about the players that were grinding before the update. They’ll now need to start over.
Sure its now more difficult to reach the leaderboard however it’s not like the game wasnt there for the players before and everyone is now in the same boat.

[somber salmon]

I would def not reset the lb, that would upset alot of players 😅

I am not a developer. But Maybe its an idea to make a different leaderboard to track the wins that came after the update.

And to be honest, I used to be a Mineplex player, and there stats/leaderboards were like the biggest deal. So Maybe im not used to cubecraft yet, and people here care less about it

But I thought, i’ll just mention it 😋

[graceful sun]

True but generally you don’t want things such things as it shows that there was a change. What came before is what came before and the new updated game is the only game right now. If that makes sense…

[somber salmon]

I do like the 20 players.. more people to kill 😊. But my lose rate went op by alot. Maybe I should play less agro 😅🫡

[graceful sun]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-pikachu-pikachu-skill-issue-gif-3559280283046901335

[somber salmon]

Yehh I did notice that cubecraft shows less leaderboards