☕︱java

[sacred helm]

oh yes.. ok you still my beta

[hollow egret]

idiot got wiped

idiot got banned

idiot left everything

[valid wigeon]

is tower defense or anything that made cubecraft unique ever coming back? 🫤

[hollow egret]

zzz

[hollow egret]

banned from jelly

why

he tried to steal my acc

?

wym nah

lol?

he lied to gon about how he tried to change my security info

you got wiped and left anything

idrc about your opinion tbh

[violet hare]

Somebody needs to say to Camezonda that making a bedrock texturepack every single day wont revive java cubecraft.

[hushed shard]

These are independent texture pack artists, not the design team. And our design team aren't developers who work on Java @violet hare 😛

[violet hare]

Ok but still stop with those packs, they are like 20 now

[hushed shard]

We're supporting these artists by giving them a platform to release their content 😄

[violet hare]

Ah ok

Wasnt it said u will release a pack for java when 1.19 comes

There was smth with a java texturepack

But it was never released

[violet hare]

@hushed shard is it true or im just tripping

[hushed shard]

I don't recall that no

[fathom coyote]

It's the resource pack on the server..

[violet hare]

It doesnt have different textures, only for the gamemodes with the different rabbit foots

[fathom coyote]

It's not intended to fully replace the Java textures

[violet hare]

I thought we are getting overall pack😭

[plush socket]

Server dead

[edgy saddle]

Only if enough people would play it

[violet gulch]

They removed it since people weren't. Same as other games

[violet gulch]

Most of the games were

[true furnace]

who want to play?

[austere island]

so where is wipeout map?

[spark crater]

Thats a summer map
And the summer event ended like a few hours ago
so the map disappeared

[loud fog]

rany dm me we can play

[lethal wedge]

why did duels get removed?

[edgy saddle]

Too low of a playerbase

[lethal wedge]

could have removed parkour instead of duels 💀

[silk coyote]

That's not how low player counts work. Duels count would have still been too low regardless of if we removed parkour.

[lethal wedge]

But why keep parkour as a gamemode and remove duels if parkour has less players?

[silk coyote]

Because once a parkour server is up and running it's cost to run is much, much lower than duels, and we only need around 2 servers to handle all the players, whereas duels is an entire server for every duels game. Running costs per player are a lot lower for parkour, meaning it's much more affordable to keep running. Handful of other factors too, but that's the core one.

[unique sluice]

@silk coyote Are you guys aware we can't join Parkour or Select Maps? Eventhough it says in #📰︱changelog that it is fixed.

[thin musk]

To add on to what Laura said here - it's also a game that doesn't require anyone to start and whether it has 10 or 1000 players, the game experience is identical. On the contrary, competitive parkour was removed for this very reason on Java - the game experience is negatively affected without other players. The game did not have enough players to routinely start, hence why it was removed

[bright gulch]

Would it not be possible to have custom duels again? Where you challenge someone.

Also I got a bug in FFA where I didn’t get any speed potions at all after I shopped wizard, even when I had all of the rest of the potions and got a bunch of kills

Idk if it’s known, if not I’ll report it ig

[ebon crescent]

same

[fathom coyote]

A bug report would be in order

[bright gulch]

Alright

I got a recording yesterday so I’ll do one later

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1138872839173324920

[hollow egret]

@sinful notch

u still play this game?

[sinful notch]

Sometimes

Most of the time it's because i'm bored

[ancient warren]

hi guys

i have a rank from long time

i wanted to upgrade and i just saw that my rank is sub now

insted of perment

i wonder scince i am a old rank do i have to sub or i have my rank permently

[sick sandal]

No need to subscribe, your lifetime rank remains

[ancient warren]

OK

TY

sorry caps

any idia if they tower deffence will be back or not

[sick sandal]

I have no idea, if the server had more players there might be a chance to bring that game back.

[violet gulch]

Your old rank is permanent. Any new upgrade will be temporary and when ite over you'll revert back to your diamond

[loud fog]

hello there

wanna play ? dm me

[jaunty oar]

hello

why cubecraft so trash?

why i cant write in the party chat?

4 developers no one of them can fix 1 bug

[sonic niche]

why cant i write without getting kicked

[jaunty oar]

idk

ask @ember granite or any developer

[edgy saddle]

Maybe report the bug so they can fix it~

Just an idea

[jaunty oar]

i did

[hollow egret]

whtas the ip

fot jave and is it cross platform

[edgy saddle]

play.cubecraft.net and no its not cross platform

[violet hare]

1% of cube players play parkour, pls return an old gamemode already

[vital fractal]

@violet hare

[hollow egret]

@violet hare why does it look like pils equal to 3?

pils is bear

[flat canyon]

The moment you talk in party chat I get this

Anyone else having this also?

[heavy dove]

Heyy

I have problem

WHen i send anything in p chat i get kicked why?

[floral siren]

Short commands get you kicked as well, they used to work

so lame Cubecraft

[violet hare]

people are spamming suggestions for egg solo

i dont think they wont play it if u add it

[sage geyser]

FIX THE CHAT BUGG

OMG

I

KEEP GET DISCONECTED

[hollow egret]

tryd restarting?

[fathom coyote]

The bug is fixed on 1.20.x; we're still working on a fix for 1.19.x

[sage geyser]

oml

Its really always a party on this server isnt it

you cant do this on a server like what

[edgy saddle]

I mean considering that java doesnt support 1.19 anymore properly... People shouldn't be complaining ab it

Its now 1.20.1+

After all

[sage geyser]

its a broken server

[fathom coyote]

What?

[edgy saddle]

#📰︱changelog

[fathom coyote]

The server version is 1.20.1

You can still join on others

[edgy saddle]

From what i understand 1.19 shouldn't really be used

[fathom coyote]

It's just the inverse from before

[edgy saddle]

Well its still obvious there shall be some issues with 1.19~

[fathom coyote]

Arguably, you should use the latest version regardless

[edgy saddle]

Yup

Ofc unless its a 1.8 server~

[fathom coyote]

But we still want to support 1.19.x at this moment. And it's just a bug

[sage geyser]

issues like this should not be still there for more then one hour its obv no one cares anymore about java

just shut it down lmao

[hollow egret]

so why do they still allow people to join on 1.19-1.19.4?

[edgy saddle]

Yeet

[hollow egret]

wouldnt that hold the server back tho

u wont be able to use the new 1.20 features

[sage geyser]

Fr

[hollow egret]

tbf they havent made good use of 1.19's features anyways
so i dont expect a lot 😆

[edgy saddle]

I want mud!

Give me mud

[hollow egret]

what?

[edgy saddle]

In sb

We cant get mud

Is sadge

[hollow egret]

that doesnt make any sense

[edgy saddle]

Cant use water bottle on dirt

Fsr

Its just disabled

[hollow egret]

are u trolling?

[edgy saddle]

Nope

[hollow egret]

i dont understand what ur point is

[edgy saddle]

Me want mud

Mudstone is unironically a good block

[hollow egret]

cool ig?

[violet hare]

Make a bug report

[edgy saddle]

Thats effort, i has someone else doing that for me~

[violet hare]

Lol i acted like u do now u act like me

Fair enough

[sage geyser]

so i have to clean up the mess that cube makes by notifying them about it, im not a damn mod

[violet hare]

Lol so accurate

Like they still havent fixed the armour/pick dupe bug. And it has been months since it was "released"

[sage geyser]

I just dont know why they wait so long for the shut down

stop giving false hope pls

FIX UR BROKEN SERVER OR PLS SHUT IT DOWN

if this kind of bug was on hypixel it will be fixed in less then one hour

[edgy saddle]

That may be because hypickle is java only

The player base on java is like 5-10% of total

[cosmic bough]

you shouldnt deflect complaints too much

users do pay 10 pounds a month and expect a great experience

complaints are to be expected

[violet gulch]

Complaints are better through the suggestions pagr in the form of suggestions, bug reports, and forum posts. Not aimlessly complaining in the discord

[cosmic bough]

you misunderstand

[violet gulch]

Also you don't have to pay £10 a month to play. Ranks are not needed

[cosmic bough]

complaints arent good at all

criticism is but complaints arent, you can criticise without complaining

nevertheless

its to be expected

and yes you dont need to pay, you dont even have to play at all in fact

but people do

and its encouraged

so you will receive complaints

[violet gulch]

Complaints can be useful sometimes actually. Its just aggroed ones that tend to not be. Not all complaints are a bad thing

For example. Complaining to a manager about someone harassing you at work. Yes its not related to cubecraft but it's it's example

You just need to discern the different between a positive and a negative complaint. For example okeays ones is a negative complaint

[cosmic bough]

no. you want the criticism in the complaints

you dont want complaints

[violet gulch]

Not all critism is good either

[cosmic bough]

ok im not going to talk to you about what criticism is good

[violet gulch]

Hence why there's destructive and constructive criticism

[cosmic bough]

we are far beyond the topic of the discussion

nevertheless

you are to expect complaints

[violet gulch]

I know that

[cosmic bough]

you shouldnt need to explain why users shouldnt complain

so whats your point

[violet gulch]

I never explained why they shouldn't complain?

[cosmic bough]

are you ok

i wasnt originally talking to you

[violet gulch]

I know that

[cosmic bough]

so...whats your point

[violet gulch]

You were talking to sam

What's your point?

[cosmic bough]

why would you say this then

[violet gulch]

.

[cosmic bough]

ok but sam did

and you went against my original argument (which was that complaints should be expected)

i didnt say you as in you specifically

it is rather obvious that you did not

but you did go against my argument

[violet gulch]

I went against it by saying complaints are better in a different form rather than putting them here

There's better outlets. It's better to recommend where they should go for it rather than explain to them why here

[cosmic bough]

what? you want people to complain about the same exact thing in forms?

[violet gulch]

Reread my first message

I said in the form of suggestions or in the form of a bug report

[cosmic bough]

it doesnt disprove my original point though

[violet gulch]

Something that's scruslly useful

[cosmic bough]

i dont think you're understanding

[violet gulch]

Actually*

[cosmic bough]

complaints are to be expected

they will go where they're most heard

if users think this is the place to complain

they will go here

[violet gulch]

I never said complaints shouldn't be expected. Meaning I technically didn't go against you

[cosmic bough]

[violet gulch]

And its better to suggest that person to complain in a different way rather than to put up with it here

I know people will come here

[cosmic bough]

again

it is to be expected that people will complain here

[violet gulch]

But if they do. You tell them to make a report or a suggestion

[violet gulch]

.

[cosmic bough]

why would you tell them to make a report about something that is already known?

[violet gulch]

Because they obviously think we don't know

Else they wouldn't complain

[cosmic bough]

i am personally a developer and i would HATE if people started spamming my forms with the same exact issues

its better to complain here where it'll just get flushed in the chat

[cosmic bough]

and this does go against my original point, as a correction to your message

nevertheless

sam deflected complaints in the discord

i said they are to be expected (you would assume that i mean in the discord)

you then told me they can be useful and fit in other places more

which is completely off the topic

so i asked you, whats your point?

[violet gulch]

So would it be best to just ignore them? Because obviously you don't want them deflected here but you also don't want them putting in a forum post on it

[cosmic bough]

ok i need you to go back to the original point

complaints are expected

[violet gulch]

You went against Sam deflecting it. And you went against me telling them to take it somewhere else. And I know complaints are expected as I have said

[cosmic bough]

in most places, some better than others

yes so what do you have to add

[violet gulch]

I gave a suggestion on where they can put it

What did you have to add onto Sams?

[cosmic bough]

????????

[cosmic bough]

again, you misunderstand

[violet gulch]

You added as much onto his statement as I did with yours

[cosmic bough]

no

i completely went against his

[violet gulch]

You gave him a suggestion

[cosmic bough]

ok let me speak plz

[violet gulch]

I also gave a suggestion

[cosmic bough]

it doesnt matter where they should put it

what i said is

it is to be expected

[violet gulch]

It also doesn't matter if someone chooses to answer a complaint

[cosmic bough]

please allow me to answer your original point before moving onto the next

[violet gulch]

So leave Sam alone and let him do it rather than go " you shouldn't deflect complaints too much"

Let him do him

[cosmic bough]

are you trying to have a civilized discussion with me or not

he is free to do as he wishes

[violet gulch]

Then what was your reason to have an input?

[cosmic bough]

i let him know that it is to be expected, he shouldnt deflect them too much

he would eventually end up wasting too much of his time

[violet gulch]

Hes been here for years and you think he doesnt know its not normal?

[cosmic bough]

now, if he wishes to listen

thats up to him

[cosmic bough]

what?

[violet gulch]

That 2021 is a lie

[cosmic bough]

????????????

okay it appears i cannot get through to you

you are repeatedly giving me pointless statements

apologies but i will have to end this discussion now

i wish you a fantastic day

[violet gulch]

You are too. Your suggestion to him had no stance since he already knows what he's doing, he's not as stupid as you think. I only did the same thing by also relaying something to you. Have a nice day

[edgy saddle]

What happened with me?

[violet gulch]

Apparently you shouldn't reply to complaints much

[cosmic bough]

that is not what i said

please dont put words into my mouth

and i have no doubt that sam is a great and intelligent person

[violet gulch]

"You shouldnt deflect complaints much"

Sorry

[cosmic bough]

just wanted to let you know that deflecting complaints was rather pointless as they'll be flooded here

well, everywhere

probably in the forums as well

thats all

[violet gulch]

And you think he doesnt know that?

[cosmic bough]

idk what you being here for years has to do with it

[cosmic bough]

ok plz allow me to talk to sam and him only

[edgy saddle]

Okay simple explination for both of ur points. Yes saying complaints here will less likely be seen (that goes with bug reports too), forums is just the place where the staff sees those complaints more often (including bug reports) and thus they fix them/do a conpromise depending on what it is

Like i agree they should bring back some of the game modes, but is a matter of a compromise with the java community, yknow?

But some bugs are harder to fix (and they really are trying hard to fix them), its just a manner of time

Ill be honest, me talking ab the mud thing was me just joking around :p

And thats my little wake up rant concluded from what i understand~

[cosmic bough]

no i mean this

[edgy saddle]

Oh that

[cosmic bough]

it is a little pointless explaining to everybody that complains why things are the way they are

its not going to end lool

[edgy saddle]

Im just saying there that more of the dev team work on bedrock here basically. Just saying thats the case~

[cosmic bough]

ya i get what you mean

you do have a point

just that letting people know that every time might be a huge waste of time

well thats not the point

the point is

[edgy saddle]

I mean its what ive done with the end update~

[cosmic bough]

complaints are to be expected

[edgy saddle]

Soon™

[cosmic bough]

right?

[edgy saddle]

Yeah

[cosmic bough]

people WILL complain

and deflecting them shouldnt be done too much

people will complain

and you should accept complaints here and there

you shouldnt always give htem a reason why they shouldnt complain

[edgy saddle]

It gives those that see reason a "oh that makes sense", but yeah a majority dont do that, agree there

[cosmic bough]

yes

correct

[edgy saddle]

Like i could always just say that (at a equivelent % of playerbase) bedrock earns more money via ranks then java shortterm, but i sharnt get into that~

[cosmic bough]

so what exactly do the things itzxelia mentioned have to do with it? LOL

[cosmic bough]

nah you right and i understand your point

[edgy saddle]

Ima refresh my mind on that one sec

[cosmic bough]

just look at the more recent ones

you being here for years for example

[edgy saddle]

Critisism stuff

[cosmic bough]

what does that have to do with it LMAO

[edgy saddle]

It just means we know more of what the server wants, i think anyways

Like we understand how the staff team work better

[cosmic bough]

yes but you still did that exact thing

whether youve been here for years or if its your first day

[edgy saddle]

Same amount of "hearing" from the staff team

Unless you go to the fourms and the other doesnt ofc~

But yeah, looking at his critisism point. Its true that it isnt always good (just look at the 1.19 update reaction to prove that :p), but the better forms of it is normally on the fourms as they normally type with less, uhh, "emotion" lets just say

I agree that if you do have something to say to them, there is the best place, you can still say it here its just they likely wont see it ofc

[cosmic bough]

they likely wont care

[edgy saddle]

Theyve shown they have cared in the past, and nothings changed now

[cosmic bough]

nevertheless they will still complain in places they shouldnt

[edgy saddle]

Yeah

[cosmic bough]

which is my original point

it is expected

[edgy saddle]

I mean, to me anyways, as long as they ain't clogging up #🪓︱skyblock im fine with it :p

More or less anyways

[violet hare]

I just read everything u guys said and i will just say this:
I know that a bug exist (like the armour/pick dupe on java) and I just wait for people to report it bc its a big one and every1 knows it exists. But cube hasnt fixed that bug for a month now. I come here just to act like i complain to see what people will say when I type: remove java dupe bug. And most of the time nobody responds or other people start asking the same question. Then u guys come and say make a bug report. And im like yk how much people have reported that? Yk how much people are banned for abusing it? I start to think that cube just ignores it now. Cant they just remove the "undo last purchase" thing until they fix the bug so no more people get benned for using it and add it back when they do? Well im sure that such a suggestion is either been given or when i make it i will get spammed with ❌ and staff saying its harder then u think it is. My point is I m just here to see ur opinions about what i just said

[edgy saddle]

I agree with the whole let others report it, but (idk if you have done this) in that bug report maybe do that suggestion as a temporary fix

[violet hare]

Sure, will do it

[violet hare]

I made a suggestion, can u feply with ✅ so staff can see it easier and think about it as a temporary fix.

[edgy saddle]

Sure, send thy link

[violet hare]

I know that this bug exists and at first I was just waiting for people to report it because its a big one and everyone knows it exists. But cube hasnt fixed that bug for a month now and Im sure most of the suggestions in the past month are for... https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/armour-pick-dupe-temporary-fix.353348/

Why did it send the whole suggestion as a msg...

[sonic niche]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/1v9OteiMbOf0Sn/d1337p7y3PJX?invite=cr-MSxVVXgsMTg1MzkyNDQ5LA

uhm

[fathom coyote]

@sonic niche Is that specific cage, I believe a fix is out. But would use a differenent cage for a bit until all old servers are gone

[hollow egret]

ive also seen that glitch today with the same cage

i think it has to do with the cages fix

bc i have that desert cage where you where able to croucht thrue the sides byt there are bariers now

[zenith coyote]

Why is my friend getting kicked when he sends a message in Party chat?

on 1.19.2

[hollow egret]

yo cruvex i saw u like 2 days ago i think

w an elite ppl squat

not fun

[willow hill]

known bug

[zenith coyote]

very fun!

[zenith coyote]

on 1.20 it works

[willow hill]

yeah

[sage geyser]

thats why i say shut java down already

fix it or shut it down

[floral siren]

Shut it down? Hell nah

[edgy saddle]

And now say that to everyone who has paid for a rank, be it with the old system or the new

[sage geyser]

Not my problem if they choose to pay for that rank nothing gonna stay forever? its ur own choice to pay for a rank cubecraft isnt demanding for a payment

[sage geyser]

^

[edgy saddle]

The old rank system was advertised as permanent which means they expect it to last forever, until the server has to shut down

[sage geyser]

Yea so its time to shut down

u just made my point

[hollow egret]

^

[edgy saddle]

Doesnt need to

There is a large enough player base where its not forcing their hand

[sage geyser]

No they said over 1000 players and rn they have 450 players on a friday night

[edgy saddle]

Friday night is when, more often then not, people go out

Its either that day or sunday that people do stuff

Statistically speaking, ofc itll be on the lower end

also the fact night comes into play

[buoyant lotus]

Anyone can help me with my cubecraft ?

[sage geyser]

just admit they dont have enought players for java to hold up

[hollow egret]

wrong
it actually averages higher amounts on friday nights

[sage geyser]

fr

[hollow egret]

ikr

[sage geyser]

stop hoping for cubecrafts future

[hollow egret]

we can't be optimistic about javas future

maybe bedrock cause it has a good amount of players

but java? absolutely not

[sage geyser]

they should just focus on bedrock and shut down java

[hollow egret]

ikr

idk why they are still trying to save a dead server
its over

can i play cubecraft with my bedrock friend while i play java?

[thin musk]

Worth noting that there were some major issues with 1.20.2 which caused lots of players to get kicked. These are fixed now and the player count should start to return to a more normal state now 😄

[sage geyser]

normal state? i dont think u know what a normal play count used to be on cubecraft

[silk coyote]

Normal state *with respect to the average count over the last few months.
Also worth noting that a lot of players have returned to school recently and therefore numbers are naturally down because of that too.

[silk coyote]

Because some people still enjoy it and play it, and we feel we'd be doing a disservice to them if we didn't try to revive it or at least keep it going.

If we can't sustain it then yeh, it will be shut down, obviously. But we're not gonna just let it die.

[feral dock]

Sadly alot games got removed :/ before the 1.19 update there still were 2/3k players

[edgy saddle]

I think that rate was before 1.12

Nit 1.19

[feral dock]

yeah

1,12,2 + is best

[edgy saddle]

Its been dying yeah, but they are trying

[feral dock]

Yeah

[silk coyote]

Yeh those numbers were from a few years ago, we've been averaging 1k players for the last 2 years, even after some games and modes were taken offline pre 1.19

[feral dock]

But like as emergency, is there ever a chance 1.12.2+ will come back?

Or never

[edgy saddle]

Never, it would be more hassle then its worth

[feral dock]

Sadly

I just miss team skywars

[silk coyote]

No. All of our systems only support 1.19+ frameworks now, and it's not possible to revert.

[feral dock]

Aa okey

[violet hare]

Is it still a chance for all gamemodes to return to java? I know player count is low and u guys want it to be bigger to add them, but it wont be. The server loses a lot of players now bc of school like u said. It will be cool to add just a single one not all at the same time and see how it is going to be.

[feral dock]

Fr

Team Skywars would be good and minerware

just not parkour ig

[edgy saddle]

As long as there would be a playerbase to give reason for their return, then yes probably

[silk coyote]

That's our aim. We absolutely want it back up to a state where it can sustain itself for all the game modes and other games it used to have. But unless it can show us it's capable of reaching that, it'll have to stay in this "Diet CubeCraft" mode.

The problem we have with adding back modes and games, is that they dilute the games. If we bring back both solo and team EggWars, then 50% of the players play solo, and 50 play team. Meaning there's 50% less players in both and the games start half as frequently, which loses us players.
And we can't bring back just one, because other players will be upset we didn't bring back their favourites.

[violet hare]

Well i see a lot of people who want the modes to return and also more will come back if they do. They will have a big playerbase im sure. People want things back when they lose them yk

[violet hare]

Well what about minerware and tower defence. Then a whole new playerbase will come back to play them. People who have left the server when they got removed.

[silk coyote]

Honestly when they were removed we didn't see that much of a drop in players. Which means they moved onto other games on our server, or, a lot less likely, somehow we gained as many players as we lost from them, just because we removed them.
Now we're pretty confident it's mostly the first scenario there, and if that's the case, adding them back takes away from the current games we have which are performing ok, making them ultimately worse.
MinerWare and Tower Defense were performing badly during most of the day. During peak times they were ok, but the rest of the time games barely started because of the low play count they had.

[copper cloak]

Isn't there any possibility that, at certain times of the day, the time at which a game starts can be automatically adjusted? for example reducing to 30/15 seconds with 6 players, instead of waiting for the server to be full. (in the case of Minerware)

[violet hare]

I know those games had a small playerbase who probably plays something else now in the server or just plays bedrock minerware. But what is the problem if u lose players in other gamemodes. Games will still start fast because eggwars and lucky islands as an example have 150 players each. And a game need 8/12/16 players to start. Its not like those modes will lose all their playerbase when u add minerware only at first. You will lose probably 20 players from eggwars 20 from LI and 10 from skywars. And the mode will have the same players as skywars rn. Also some players who left the server will join, which will make the mode have even more players. I just think that adding only minerware at first will be good. When the playerbase goes down again, u can remove it. If it goes up add tower defence back. etc.

[floral siren]

There's no Java 1.9 multiplayer server other than CubeCraft. So I think that's a stupid move

[violet hare]

Just make a move. These modes have been gone for more than a year now. And playerbase keeps going down. Add them and see what will happen. If you just act like: we will lose playerbase in other modes, these modes will never return bc the playerbase keeps going down. One day cube will just have 200 players and you guys will be forced to shut it down and those modes will be gone forever. Minerware is not the same in bedrock. And you havent said anything about adding towerdefence on bedrock.

[copper cloak]

Both parties are right, and I understand that it is very difficult to return modes, it is not as easy as it seems, but it would be good to do a "test" by adding Minerware, depending on how well it goes and how much it affects the rest of the modes , we will see what actions to take in the future.

[edgy saddle]

Maybe in beta games

If you do that

[silk coyote]

Unfortunately no, our system isn't designed with those kinds of dynamics in mind, and would require a chunky overhaul to implement.
And we've only just finished a pretty major overhaul. I don't know the specifics, but this wouldn't be as useful of a system as it would initially appear.

[silk coyote]

We're currently making moves, in that we're updating the games and modes we have with new features and maps in order to grow them.
Due to the numbers we were seeing prior to removing said games, and comparing them to the numbers we have now, we're not confident we'd see growth to the scale needed to sustain the costs of those games we add back.
MinerWare is actually a surprisingly costly game to run. It uses quite a bit of CPU power to run because of how complex it can get, costs a fair bit for the game health monitoring systems for it, and also requires an entire server per game, and before removal it wasn't generating enough to cover these costs.
And as I said, if we bring back one, players complain that we brought back the wrong one or not their favourite one, which is why they'd all have to be brought back at once.

[copper cloak]

They are very difficult decisions, they are in a very difficult position and with few possibilities, but I think they already took a big risk with the 1.19 update, and it turned out quite well for them, I think that trying for a while would not be bad, obviously there will be users Let them complain, but in the end they will adapt, it has already happened several times, Cubecraft Java is a mythical server, and seeing it like this (with so few modalities) is very sad.

With they I meant you, the translator translated it wrong, xd

[violet hare]

@silk coyote what do you think about that. Is it possible to do it like that - make a poll when you add the things you want to the current modes and fix most of the bugs? I know that people want their favourites to be added first, but this the safest and most fair way to do it.

[copper cloak]

I love cubecraft java, I hope to see it again with more users soon.

[violet hare]

The perfect answer so that we can finally stop chatting.

[hollow egret]

"But we're not gonna just let it die" you did that by removing 2 beloved gamemodes, and updating to 1.19 with NO comminuty input before 1.19 was released

its better to shut down java because i have no hope for it

[floral siren]

@hollow egret it isn't better

What would shutting down java accomplish

[hollow egret]

java is only making up around 2.5% of the total cubecraft playerbase rn
https://stats.cubecraft.net/

[floral siren]

Yes

[hollow egret]

more recourses for bedrock

and better bedrock updates

[floral siren]

I'm sure they have enough resources to develop the bedrock server well

[hollow egret]

with the amount of problems java has, it certainly delays their progress on bedrock updates

[floral siren]

And you'd also have one thousand angry players who no longer has a server to play on

[hollow egret]

wrong

[floral siren]

Wrong?

[hollow egret]

ur overexaggerating

[floral siren]

No, I am not

[hollow egret]

java doesnt even reach 1k

max 700-800 nowadays

and didnt even touch 600

today

[floral siren]

It has. And concurrent players does not mean overall players

[hollow egret]

ik

cube has also made a lot of players angry with the 1.19 java update

so it won't matter anyways

[floral siren]

Yeah, it was garbage

You have a very pessimistic view on things, Java is Minecraft. There are no other servers that offer 1.9 minigames on Java other than Cubecraft

[hollow egret]

that's false

[floral siren]

If they actually would listen to their community they could capitalise on that

[hollow egret]

problem is

they don't

so there's no point of keeping java up and running

[floral siren]

Which I implied in my message

Yes there is. I stated why above

[hollow egret]

ik

[hollow egret]

mcc island

plus

they removed

td

and minerware

so no more unique gamemodes

[floral siren]

They had to consolidate, just how it is

[hollow egret]

make java stronger?

[floral siren]

I never played those gamemodes

[floral siren]

Less gamemodes, less spread out playerbase

You really don't want to have a lot of gamemodes without a good amount of people playing

[hollow egret]

thats not really true
before they removed td and minerware
peaks were at 1.5k
and after
1k
and it slowly declined from there

they also removed a lot of maps

which made NO sense at all

supported by this fact:

[floral siren]

Td and minerware did not cause a drop of 500 players. That is for sure. I think the 1.19 update was the major contributor

Maps I agree on

[hollow egret]

it was both the removal of those games and the removal of many maps
and 1.19 update aswell

[hollow egret]

https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/🎮-the-future-of-cubecraft-java-☕.321102/page-18#post-1472215

[silk coyote]

Sorry guys, we're shutting down the Java server because Forlamce3r doesn't have any hope for it.

We removed the weakest performing games and game modes, taking into account average player count throughout the days, how much those games cost to run, and how much they were generating to offset those costs.

And no, removing Java wouldn't have any benefit for bedrock's resources. Both codebases and systems are unified now. We write one line of code? That line is on both Java and bedrock simultaneously. The only systems which require any major differences between platforms are the menu interfaces.

And no, we didn't drop that many players after the removal of those games. The player count barely dropped at all even when measuring it by a month or two after.

[floral siren]

It did drop over the course of this year. After removing gamemodes and implementing the 1.19 update

You can't deny it. I understand that it took you a long time and you had the best intentions

With the server in mind

Good financial desicion, not so great for players. You give and take

That is how life works

[silk coyote]

It has declined because the 1.19 update and Game Framework conversions took much much longer than expected, meaning we had no game updates during that time. Sure.
But now we're past that and back on track for doing lots of game updates and pushing the server again.
And the player count is still around what we would expect considering month by month trends, this is always a quieter time of year as people head back to school.

[floral siren]

Map rotations like in many popular competitive games would be very benificial I believe

[floral siren]

It took much longer, and because of that people left once it came around?

[hollow egret]

"Sorry guys, we're shutting down the Java server because Forlamce3r doesn't have any hope for it."
that's one of the MANY reasons why java is shutting down

also read my messages above which also explain javas downfall in players

"We removed the weakest performing games and game modes, taking into account average player count throughout the days, how much those games cost to run, and how much they were generating to offset those costs."

ok then explain to me how you are still averaging well under 1k even AFTER 1.19 update was finished
even story admitted:** "At this time, Java needs to grow beyond 1,000 players or we will need to close it."**

"And no, removing Java wouldn't have any benefit for bedrock's resources. Both codebases and systems are unified now. We write one line of code? That line is on both Java and bedrock simultaneously. The only systems which require any major differences between platforms are the menu interfaces."

well java and bedrock works much differently internally, so couldn't there be major issues from this system?

"And no, we didn't drop that many players after the removal of those games. The player count barely dropped at all even when measuring it by a month or two after."

that's not true at all. java went from 1.5k to barley 1k after these changes, in addition to the removal of many maps

[silk coyote]

No people had been trickle leaving because the games were becoming stale, we also saw it on bedrock too. Sure some people left after the 1.19 update released, but I'm not sure if that was because they were expecting an entirely different thing than what they got, but the player counts have been sustaining themselves.

[floral siren]

The people who left were mainly veteran players who woke up to an entirely different gamemode with new strategies and pacing

[hollow egret]

but the player counts have been sustaining themselves
that's not true at all
sir, did you see your playercount peaks for the past week?

[floral siren]

Changes were very drastic and not always well thought out (I am an eggwars player so I will be referencing eggwars)

Some were good, more often than not they sadly weren't. From the perspective of an experienced player

[hollow egret]

but I'm not sure if that was because they were expecting an entirely different thing than what they got
you definitely know why a lot of your java playerbase left
and that's one of them
you also proved one of my earlier points

[floral siren]

The largest issue right now with Eggwars is that half HP and normal HP are two sides of an extreme thanks to the buffed damage output and cheaper golden apples. In half HP you die extremely fast and in normal HP you can stay alive for as long as you want in a 1v3 by chugging gapples.

Usually you go with normal HP because that is the better option of the two extremes

[hollow egret]

.

[floral siren]

I like what you did with generators. I enjoy the new system for emeralds (discounts) and the enchantments (although some have no use). I think the changes made to bows and the addition of crossbows was good. Ancient debris was a natural change. Leap Feathers and Blastballs being accessible is great. Pickaxes staying upon death is alright but they should downgrade like they do on other servers.

Goodnight

[atomic tiger]

Laura

Nobody plays the parkour mode in Java, why hasn't it been removed yet?

[spark crater]

just let java cc die

theres no point of keeping it alive

[atomic tiger]

yes no players on java @spark crater

almost 400

[hollow egret]

exactly

waste of time and effort to keep on trying on java

they had many oppunities to save it, and ignored EVERY single one of them

[silk coyote]

Two weeks ago we were averaging around 900-1k, same as the 4 months prior at least. I'm not sure where you're getting these numbers from but they feel anecdotal.
Of course we're not going to suddenly explode another 2k players out of thin air after the 1.19 update overnight. That was never expected. What we expect is to grow the player count over the near future with consistent game and server updates now that we have the framework to do so. At that time, we will evaluate if Java can continue holding in the position that it's in, if it can be brought back up to what it was, or if it can't sustain itself.

Java and bedrock do run differently, but our bedrock servers are just Java servers which translate data from bedrock to Java and vice versa. They've been like this since the bedrock server went live, and as I said the only different systems, at least from a game point of view, are the menus. Everything else has been unified to handle either platform.

And no, Java hasn't been at 1.5k for at least 2 years.

Yes I've seen our player counts for the last week, and yes, when overlayed with graphs for previous years, taking into account the overall lower player count, they're at an expected low because of other factors like, but not limited to, players returning to school and such.

[spark crater]

2 years 💀💀💀

[hollow egret]

thats not true at all

And no, Java hasn't been at 1.5k for at least 2 years.

you had that playercount in the summer of 2022

you clearly don't know what you're talking about

[silk coyote]

Because it costs nothing to run. It doesn't require X amount of players to start, it's just always online, and it only requires 1-2 servers to run.

[spark crater]

bc everyone was free at that time, right?

[hollow egret]

yea

and it never regained that playercount after summer ended

[atomic tiger]

If cube is 1.12.2, the number of players may increase if the old maps come back.

[silk coyote]

That's the thing, as I said, we write an update for bedrock, and with a few minor tweaks for Java, boom the update is available for both platforms. It requires minimal effort now to adapt an update for both.
Not trying to use this to grow Java would be foolish.

[atomic tiger]

Me and most of my friends left it because the cube was changed and the beautiful maps were removed.

[hollow egret]

Two weeks ago we were averaging around 900-1k, same as the 4 months prior at least
no, you have not been averaging that playercount in the past 2 weeks
let alone 4 months
it's more close to 700-800 in the past 2 weeks
and 800-900 in the prev 4 months
although it may reach 900-1k on certain weekends https://minecraft-mp.com/server/24755/stats/

[atomic tiger]

I personally didnt like the last update

[hollow egret]

but still your average is nowhere near 900-1k

it's around 700-800 now

What we expect is to grow the player count over the near future with consistent game and server updates now that we have the framework to do so.
what are you going to add with your new frameworks?
new maps?

and I HIGHLY doubt you will gain additional players

[silk coyote]

You're the one comparing peak summertime stats to known autumn low average stats. Of course they're not the same scales.
Compare autumn stats with autumn stats, factor in we just had a drop due to version changes, and where we are now falls in line with previous years.

[hollow egret]

you had 900-1k players in the fall of 2022

now only 700-800

and fall is starting again

and AFTER 1.19 is out of your so called beta

[atomic tiger]

Are there any plans to increase the number of players for cube in the future? @silk coyote

[silk coyote]

We also had a larger average annual count in 22.
You scale the graphs accordingly to that, and they're not dissimilar.

[hollow egret]

maybe because you had more good gamemodes

and didn't roll out the AWFUL 1.19 update

in the start of 2022 you had 3k players

now

< 1k

[hollow egret]

keep in mind this was during school days

[atomic tiger]

you are very right man @hollow egret

:D

I started cube java in 2018

[silk coyote]

The new framework allows for exactly what I just stated. Write code for one platform, it's automatically there for the other. The time it used to take for game updates has been cut in half because we only need to write the code once now instead of twice and customising it for the other platform.
Hence; update the games more frequently, make them more engaging, grow the player count.

[atomic tiger]

It used to be more good

I swear

[spark crater]

nah i swear to god bedrock is skyrocketing

[atomic tiger]

yes true

[spark crater]

it feels like they only care about bedrock

[atomic tiger]

but old java cube better

I think

[atomic tiger]

yeah so so many ppl dont play cube java anymore :(

[silk coyote]

No it's because we had to let the served sit still going stale for 10 months for the game framework conversion. No updates for that long meant players stopped playing because they grew bored of the same thing.

[atomic tiger]

I am java player I started in 2018

I have 20k+ wins in eggwars

[spark crater]

they said like amounts of these type of bs "were going to update to 1.19 to regain popularity on java" and it never worked

[silk coyote]

Yes, that's what this whole thing is about. We're attempting to regrow the server again now that we have solved some major technical limitations we had before the 1.19 update.

[spark crater]

theres no damn point of keeping java alive

[hollow egret]

well your playercount's are still very bad, and I havent noticed or seen any use of your new frameworks

[spark crater]

AND it made it worser than before

[atomic tiger]

So what will you do?

[hollow egret]

it's funny how you say that while 1.19 has been almost the SAME thing for the past 5 months
and on top of that nobody likes the new changes

[spark crater]

OH i remember
you said even after the 1.19 ud
the java playercount wont grow to 1k players
you will shut it down

[atomic tiger]

I agree

[spark crater]

lol

[hollow egret]

you had all the maps and games people loved and they didn't really get "bored" as your claiming
you are killing the server faster by not listening to the community

[spark crater]

true

[hollow egret]

maps from 2016

[atomic tiger]

Maybe if the update had not come, the number of players could have been 3k+

[hollow egret]

the og stuff

and now you removed almost all of that

like it's nothing

[silk coyote]

We're only just out of beta... Now is the time we start trying to regrow the player count with consistent game and server updates.

Bare in mind that the 1.19 update went out on java first, and we had to wait for bedrock to catch up before we could start doing game updates.
Because only when bedrock updated, were the codebases actually unified.

[hollow egret]

but I thought you said that when the 1.19 update would initially release it would increase the playercount quite a bit

you can't keep on making bad excuses

[spark crater]

"a bit" never comes to java

[hollow egret]

thats another reason why java is dying

because you never admit anything you do is wrong

maybe if you admitted just ONE

of your many mistakes

people wouldn't be as mad

[silk coyote]

Nope. We never said that.
We said that once 1.19 releases we will have the capability to grow. Not we WILL grow.

[spark crater]

then wheres the "capbility"?

[hollow egret]

just look at this:
https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/opinions-on-new-update-for-java-so-far.336994/

the poll says everything

We said that once 1.19 releases we will have the capability to grow
well you're doing the exact opposite of that

[spark crater]

true

and you guys just let it rot even more for 5 MONTHS

[hollow egret]

this is LITERALLY what redned said in december of 2022
There is nothing stating we intend to and will be shutting down Java. We did say that Java was built to sustain this many players and more, but one of the goals of the 1.19 update is to revive & refresh the server in the hopes we can give it a final big push 😄

[spark crater]

lies

[hollow egret]

and then you slap a "beta" excuse because many people hated the 1.19 update when it first came out

[silk coyote]

We were very open about screwing up our estimates for the 1.19 conversion, and we listened to the player's initial response to EggWars and made changes accordingly.

[spark crater]

anh yuo screwed it all up

[hollow egret]

ok but why didn't you listen to the countless suggestions BEFORE working on the 1.19 update
you have to look at the bigger picture

[atomic tiger]

So will it continue like this or will it be closed? Laura

[hollow egret]

no community input = recipie for disaster

[atomic tiger]

I miss old cube :(

[spark crater]

you could make more gamemodes, cosmetics, mechanics, better lag stability, and other things that is fixing java for the better

[atomic tiger]

^^

[spark crater]

instead you just removed a buncha gamemodes and ud the whole DAMN THING INTO 1.19 THAT NO ONE LIKES???

[atomic tiger]

you need this!!

[spark crater]

you really want them to riot

[atomic tiger]

bro u play java?

[spark crater]

no

[atomic tiger]

why u talking about that xd

you are not java player

[spark crater]

idk i was just telling them that

[silk coyote]

Ha! Ok.
No.

It was ALWAYS going to go out as a beta first.

You don't seem to understand that the 1.19 conversion was not just a Minecraft version bump. It was a huge, and I mean +500,000 lines of code change to ALL of our back end systems. Our games were completely rewritten from scratch to allow for faster game updates.
That's what this new Framework is.
So when Redned said that, this is what they were referring to. 1.19 gives us the ability to work on the games faster. What we are doing NOW, like, as of this minute, now that we're out of Beta on BOTH platforms, is this final big push to get the player count growing again.

[atomic tiger]

@silk coyote

[edgy saddle]

Tldr: they rewrote the whole server in 10 months, appreciate that work

[atomic tiger]

if so when

new maps new mods idk

other something

[silk coyote]

If we hadn't cut back the number of games and their scales when we did, then the server wouldn't have been online for another 4 months. We had to cut back on them otherwise the costs would have been too great to keep it online for much longer.

[silk coyote]

I don't know when we'll re-evaluate if the server can sustain itself. But we're not making any decisions yet.

[edgy saddle]

I think the only way you can convince them is to say roughly how much you saved (as a % of cost if thats private info) for doing so for closing down those games.

[atomic tiger]

ahh okey

[hollow egret]

It was ALWAYS going to go out as a beta first.
cubecraft NEVER said that the 1.19 update was going to initially be a beta
everybody expected the 1.19 update to be completed after 7 months of waiting

You don't seem to understand that the 1.19 conversion was not just a Minecraft version bump. It was a huge, and I mean +500,000 lines of code change to ALL of our back end systems. Our games were completely rewritten from scratch to allow for faster game updates.
ok, you have a new framework, but I still don't see any playercount improvements after a month 1.19 is out of your "beta"

So when Redned said that, this is what they were referring to. 1.19 gives us the ability to work on the games faster. What we are doing NOW, like, as of this minute, now that we're out of Beta on BOTH platforms, is this final big push to get the player count growing again.
the "final big push" should have happened back in april but ok
I highly doubt you will be able to pull it off but I would like to see you try since you sound very confident. prove me wrong once and for all and I will take EVERYTHING that I said back

[silk coyote]

Well we're not going to divulge data related to company funds and spending. That's business sensitive information.
But as I said, the server was burning too much money for the size it could cope with, versus the number of players actually generating revenue for it. It was either cut back or shut down.

[edgy saddle]

...there wont be player count improvements till an update to a game is released anyways, thats why theyre saying

Not that the framework will suddenly lure in people

The fact they will be able to release more updates in the future faster

[atomic tiger]

Laura, this question is a bit personal, but how old are you?

[spark crater]

thats not improtant lol

[edgy saddle]

Old enough to know what they're talking ab~ hehe

[atomic tiger]

I mean, you shouldn't do this job at a young age.

[spark crater]

what the hell
shes 17

[atomic tiger]

haha

[silk coyote]

Ok, simply put;
New framework = faster game updates
Faster game updates + time = more players engaging with the games
More players engaging + more updates = more players sticking around
More players sticking around = more players spending money to keep the server online
More players spending money + time = server growing back to what it was

Has that cleared up the plan?

Yes, this should have happened months ago, but as I have already said, the new framework and 1.19 took longer than expected. Issues arose which we couldn't predict, and we got it out as fast as we could.

[hollow egret]

ill see you in december

i won't forget that post

[silk coyote]

Ha!
I wish.

No I'm not comfortable sharing here, but I don't hide it either. You can find it if you look.

[atomic tiger]

I don't know where to get it

[atomic tiger]

why december??

[spark crater]

yea
why

[silk coyote]

December is WAY too soon to get any useful data. That's maybe 2 game updates between now and then. Not enough to have an impact on player count, or more importantly, on revenue. After all, it's revenue which keeps the server online.

[hollow egret]

okay, how many months do u need to increase the player count?

infinity?

[spark crater]

mabye like another 2 years
to get back the resources and stuff ig

💀💀💀

[atomic tiger]

I found out Laura's age

omg

🥱🥱

no I think 2026 @hollow egret

[silk coyote]

Infinity would be good, sure.

But as for a more tangible timeframe, we can't say for sure. If we notice revenue increasing over the next few months we'll probably delay the judgement call on it, if not, the call will probably be made a lot sooner.

[spark crater]

judgement call????

[hollow egret]

ahhhhh... we can't say for sure
I think that's another way of saying infinity

u don't sound as confident as 5min ago

[silk coyote]

The call for if we shutdown java or not.

[edgy saddle]

Vote stan out

if you know, you know

[spark crater]

ok

[atomic tiger]

Okay guys, cube won't be the same, everyone, sleep well.

[atomic tiger]

nono dont close

I have obsidian rank

;-;

[silk coyote]

Sure, even though I literally just said a few months, but yeh let's just ignore me saying that because you want to spin a narrative.

If we see revenue growth in the next few months, then we will almost certainly keep java going, trying to grow it more.
Of course we would, it's a product which has the potential to generate revenue, we're a business, businesses aim to generate revenue.
But if we don't see any noteworthy signs of player count growth or up trends in revenue, then we won't really have much choice but to shut it down.
The time we make this call is completely dependent on the results we see over time. There is no hard and fast deadline.

[thick topaz]

how can i report someone for impersonating staff ?

can a mod / admin please discord msg me i have screenshots and i have problems reporting via website

[violet gulch]

Report on forums with video evidence

If you didnt /sr during when they did it. You can't without video evidence

[thick topaz]

i have only screenshots the person had spectator and was pretending to be a admin threating me with bans

[neon perch]

Can't you just bring back the old games so people will want to play again while the server as it stands is almost certain to continue to die

[edgy saddle]

Let me find a message for you that they said too~

[edgy saddle]

Read this

[neon perch]

So gg

[plush socket]

💀

Dead server

[edgy saddle]

Maybe so, but they're planning big things. The only reason why its in its biggest slump is due to no updates

Which, as laura said, they can basically now work twice as fast

[plush socket]

What are they planning ?💀

[edgy saddle]

Due to the work they spent making the code very similar on both versions

[edgy saddle]

A lot more then you think

[plush socket]

😂😂😂

[edgy saddle]

Anything you see on their bedrock todo list :p

Which is a lot

[plush socket]

Never will be on java

💀

[edgy saddle]

Actually yeah just check their notion board

[plush socket]

Where

[edgy saddle]

The system they have now makes them able to do so easily

And one sec

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1088867035397754920

And there is many more they havent revealed yet too

[plush socket]

💀 💀

[violet hare]

@silk coyote what do u think about that. I accidentally edited it, its not the same as it was yesterday, but still the same things are said.

[violet hare]

Does anybody know why does my blocks keep disappearing in cubecraft. That bug also happens in mcc island but i dont have any problems in vanilla survival. I use labymod 1.19.4 and the bug keeps happening 90% of the time. I tried playing just vanilla without any modifications but i still have it. Proof:

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/1vkP1RgM-jbJa_/d1337Ie7dwdt?invite=cr-MSxoNDgsMTk3ODY2NjMxLA

version is 1.19.4 in the clip

[prisma laurel]

either lag or its goofy ahh server

[drowsy elm]

How can i invite my frind to my skyblock?

[prisma laurel]

#🪓︱skyblock

[hollow egret]

i think it has to do with the anticheat i got the same problem somtimes

maybe click slower if that makes sense xD

like 15 cps is the limit

u should click round the 13 14

[violet hare]

I do 12 maximum, most of the time its 8-10

[violet hare]

Server, my ping is below 40

[prisma laurel]

hope they fix it

[violet hare]

But other people say that they dlnt have it

Like i havent seen any1 say that theh have it

Only harrie but he does big amount of cps , and i dont

It even happens when i just do 2-3cps

[violet hare]

@silk coyote sry for tagging but do you know why this happens only to me?

[rigid trout]

Since when survival game in java bro pleeeease

[hollow egret]

ahh ye i get the same with butterfly

[violet hare]

So actually its not just me

[hollow egret]

i used to be able to do 13 to 15 on a broken mouse that dubble vlicked

no

but i dont have it constantly gliching

[violet hare]

I do

[hollow egret]

more like once every couple games

[violet hare]

For me is 100%of the time

[hollow egret]

but when it does happen its so blody anoying

[violet hare]

Staff is ignoring me

I want to know the reason why

[hollow egret]

thats unfortunate

[violet hare]

I reported but they dont respond

[supple lodge]

hi

[sage geyser]

How long is it gonna take for the chat bug to fix on 1.19

[supple lodge]

wdym?

[sage geyser]

like do we have to wait another month or

[supple lodge]

bruh huh?

[sage geyser]

im tTalking ab cube not ab you

[supple lodge]

oh okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[edgy saddle]

It was fixed?

#📰︱changelog

Uhhh nvm

Saw the 1.20.2 disconects wrong

Well simple solution is to play 1.19 for the time being

[supple lodge]

hey @edgy saddle

[edgy saddle]

Heya

[supple lodge]

do you know why i can't spawn the snow golem on java>

?

[edgy saddle]

Carved pumpkin

Buy it in the shop

[supple lodge]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[edgy saddle]

Same too for bedrock now~

[fathom coyote]

It's weekend, and it's not the only report

Also I have to install an auto clicker to test that nonsense

[violet hare]

It happens with 2-3cps too, i dont think its bc of high cps.

[fathom coyote]

I'll try after the weekend

[violet hare]

My report is from 2-3 days ago tho

[fathom coyote]

You're not the only report we have. Nor are we only doing bug reports

Neither is it that big of an issue. Can just use blocks in your main hand. It's like one button

[violet hare]

For me its not that simple, fighting and placing blocks at the same time is an really op thing

switching buttons so you can place blocks takes time and also you have to reload your sword after

[fathom coyote]

Just use a hotkey, it takes no time

Or press f

If you're dying because it took you 200ms to switch hotbar slots you have a bigger problem

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1155461949505667133

[violet hare]

wdym took me 200ms

[fathom coyote]

Average reaction time or something idk

[hollow egret]

isnt that just 0.2 seconds

[edgy saddle]

Yup

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1155461949505667133

[edgy saddle]

@violet hare #📰︱changelog, its fixed!

[loud fog]

java players

[violet hare]

Ik, it was fixed yesterday too but i didnt want to tag u

[edgy saddle]

Fair, just wanted to say while it was in mind

[violet hare]

I think they didnt fix it bc of my suggestion, like 3 hours after i did it the bug was fixed and undo last purchase was still there

[edgy saddle]

Yeah, was likely just a coincidence that you did yours

Just was on the bucket list~

Which is good

[violet hare]

But there are still some bugs with the undo last purchase. You cant refund wall builders, tower and castle

Or pickaxes

I dont know if they fixed it before saying that in changelog but if not tommorow i will make a bug report

EggWars - Fixed: Shift-click to buy max now gives the correct amount.
What does that mean - "correct amount"

[silk coyote]

Behaviour varied between items, some items would only give you half the items it should, some only missed one item. Depended on if you had discounts too. Was simpler in the changelog to just say it's fixed now.

[silk coyote]

No, didn't know about this. Bug report will help 👍

[violet hare]

Also when i have like 10 stacks of iron and try to buy blocks it says my inventory is full. It will be good if it just fills all the empty space and throws the left iron. Or just iron stays and buys less blocks

[violet hare]

If i try to do it from phone without a picture/video will it get accepted?

[silk coyote]

If you can't get vid or pics just make sure to include as much detail as possible for how to recreate it, anything odd it does. I'll poke the mods/QA to allow it.

[violet hare]

Ok thx

[violet hare]

Bug report sended! Btw i also added in "anything else u want us to know" that in skywars there are not enough upgrade trims for the amount of neth ingots we get.

Might be only in 1.19 versions and completely balanced in 1.20+ , but im not sure.

[edgy saddle]

@graceful sun yknow what to do~

[silk coyote]

Already poked them XD
Sweety confirmed it'll be ok to submit.

[edgy saddle]

Hehe

Such a proactive qa~

[fathom coyote]

Ya, we just need to be able to reproduce it. If you can explain how to do it, it's all good. Generally speaking, people don't know how to explain stuff or take steps for granted that we might not so it's easier if there is a video to look at

The bug was already logged, but not assigned 😳

[silk coyote]

Oop. Throw it my way if you haven't already.

[fathom coyote]

I did 🫢

[violet hare]

Nothing much to explain. Just buy the wall builder, try to refund it and see that it stays in ur inventory and u dont get ur resources back.

[thin portal]

@royal meadow why are my reports for hate speech being closed?

@dim mantle

@copper drift

[fathom coyote]

Open a ticket #💌︱team・help

Don't spam tag staff

[silk coyote]

To be brutally honest with you, the refund system needs an overhaul. It was fine pre 1.19 but the way it works just doesn't really play nicely with custom and enchanted items now after the conversion. I'm gonna redo it for Season 3.

[violet hare]

When will season 3 come? Also wouldnt it be different from season 2, like a whole new gamemode just how season 2 felt after season 1.

I mean if season 3 will come in a lot of time why not redo it now? Having the ability to refund enchantments or discounts when you have accidently missclicked will be really good.

[spark crater]

mabye 2 months

or 3

[silk coyote]

Because, provided I get the outstanding bugs fixed with it then it works to an acceptable level, fulfilling its original requirements.
I'm already assigned to updating a different game, and only major bugs (in other games) take priority over that. Other minor bugs/issues with EggWars will get fixed when Season 3 is in development.

[thick wyvern]

helllo

i want some people to join

its me and 10 other buds

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1155461949505667133

[dense grove]

Hello, I can’t load the resource pack on the server, what should I do?

[violet hare]

@fathom coyote I saw both of the replies on the 2 bugs I reported. I will talk about why my blocks disappear. First in the clip u send u do 8 cps with normal click ( I do butterfly). Second: you dont shift but u dont move too, when i bridge like that i either breezly (move side to side of the block) or just go straight which makes me move fast. You try to keep yourself up and down fall and the bug cant be recreated like that. You dont have to think that much and try to keep yourself up. If u want to recreate use 1.19.4 without clients and butterfly spam blocks. On the ground it can be redone too. You can just do 360's and spam blocks around you. I will send u a video of me doing that if u want.

[fathom coyote]

If butterfly is breaking your blocks, time to learn to play without it

You're the only person reporting this

Half the people I play against are building like that

[violet hare]

Jitter breakes them too, any sort of clicking that does more constistant click destroys them. I asked people about it. They said they dont have it when clicking like that.

[fathom coyote]

Well, sounds like a you issue then?

[violet hare]

Why dont i have it in survival?

[fathom coyote]

Have you tried on a paper server

Survival isn't remotely the same as on a server, there is zero latency

[violet hare]

Well i have it on mcc island too. But I dont on a server a friend created which is 1.16.5+

Which is pvp related

not survival

[fathom coyote]

I'm sorry but this isn't worth our time to look into further, I can't reproduce it, you're saying it's not happening to other people and on other servers as well. It's probably an issue on your end, or one with paper it self

[violet hare]

I will research more then, also i will find the msg a person send that had it too

[fathom coyote]

If you can reproduce it on a local paper server, you can submit a bug report to them

[violet hare]

read down from here

[violet hare]

What is a local paper server

[fathom coyote]

https://papermc.io/

[violet hare]

so a server made from a website?

that is free

[fathom coyote]

Euh, paper is just the server software

[violet hare]

like aternos?

[fathom coyote]

You can run a paper server with aternos probably

[violet hare]

I can i talk in dms ?

I want to send more vids

[fathom coyote]

sigh

[violet hare]

about it happening without me spam clicking

just 1 cps

[fathom coyote]

Have you tried reinstalling mc? If blocks are being removed with 1cps, I doubt you'd be the only one ...

[violet hare]

Will deinstalling the mc launcher work

like bc java can only be played when opening the launcher

[fathom coyote]

No clue sorry, I have no idea what the issue is. Am just guessing, I'm using Laby launcher, you could give that a try I suppose

[violet hare]

Bug occurs with laby and just vanilla

Ig its the version/mouse/cps

[fathom coyote]

might be

[violet hare]

know the issue, not the version, its the cps

Is it supposed for the server to remove blocks when there is high cps?

Like I know if its too high it wont be registered, but 14 cps isnt that much

[fathom coyote]

The cps cap was voted against on Java.

[violet hare]

And how much is it?

mb i thought there is a cap

well then how other people can bridge like that and I cant?

Will my survival worlds, settings, multiplayer servers and other stuff get removed if I reinstall mc tho?

[violet gulch]

No pointing having a cap on java

[violet hare]

what about this

[silk coyote]

EggWars bugs should be fixed, should be able to refund the builders and the pickaxes now.

[violet hare]

Thanks, I tried and it works

[tawdry geode]

hi guys anyone know whats the oldest version that let me join cubecraft? 1.12.2 still works on cubecraft?

[hushed shard]

No, 1.19 is the minimum version for java @tawdry geode

[tawdry geode]

thanks!

[violet gulch]

I thought it was changed to 1.20 a few days ago?

Yeah base version is now 1.20.1

Not 1.19

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1156147000203542599

[fathom coyote]

You can still join on 1.19.x

[violet gulch]

I see. What does the 1.20.1 updated base version do then. Because it hasn't added 1.20 blocks and you can still play in 1.19. I dont see what it did

[fathom coyote]

The server is running on 1.20.1

Joining on other versions is just ViaVersion magic

[violet gulch]

Yet we still can't make 1.20 stuff on sb

[silk coyote]

You won't be able to do anything truly 1.20 until we stop supporting 1.19 I'm afraid.
1.19 clients don't know how to process 1.20 features, so we can't use them without causing problems right now. (Kinda, there's some magic we can do to filter which client gets what info, but it's limited.)

[cloud tangle]

Hey guys

This is really shameful

But I just got java

What's the ip

[left flax]

Search on YouTube

[sage wadi]

IP : play.cubecraft.net

[cloud tangle]

Thxxx

[sinful notch]

Mitgobla bestieee

[autumn lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/174837853778345984/1156147000203542599

[violet hare]

@fathom coyote sry for tagging but i found the problem. It is because i play from a laptop and dont use ethernet cable. The wifi conection isnt direct and that makes the blocks not placable in the exact moment.

That explains why I can bridge like that on survival. Also why in mcc island its worse, bc I have 110 ping there and not 40 like in cube. Which also explains why nobody has it since every1 has a pc.

[hollow egret]

Thanks, bro! This problem really sucked butt! Pardon my french...

[fathom coyote]

Euh, not sure how that would work. I also play on wifi

That, yeah. I do think internet stability will have something to do with it

[drowsy elm]

Are any of the gamemodes crossplay?

[hushed shard]

No @drowsy elm

[drowsy elm]

Using geyser can get me banned?

[hushed shard]

Yes you might flag Sentinel and get banned. It is best to use the java client to connect to Java, and Bedrock for the Bedrock server.

[trail kindle]

Hey

[honest nymph]

Anyone knows about new feacture for java server?

[golden thorn]

is there a moderator online on cube?

[river aspen]

Any staff online. Bunch of hackers in eggwars shouting about 🍇

[golden thorn]

yea also sky

[vital spoke]

Seems like Java server is down atm?

[fathom coyote]

Are you unable to join or?

[trail kindle]

Oh I have just got yesterday :-:

[hollow egret]

let redned verify that

[hushed shard]

No need.

[zenith coyote]

You know Cubecraft literaly made Geyser

[vital fractal]

Redned did, while he was not contracted by CubeCraft

[zenith coyote]

i thought so too but I just looked it up and saw this and got all confused.

[fathom coyote]

https://github.com/opencollaboration

There is nothing on that account, but it links some stuff ig

[hollow egret]

thanks

[floral siren]

Why do you get kicked when sending a message in the party chat/using shortcommands on 1.19

[sage wadi]

Because you are on 1.19

Cubecraft only supports 1.20 +

[floral siren]

And why would that be a problem?

It isn't supported?

[fathom coyote]

It's currently bugged on 1.19

[edgy saddle]

Likely to do with the chat message changes between versions tbh

[midnight flicker]

is the emerald rank gone?

[edgy saddle]

Yeah, merged into obby

[midnight flicker]

aaa

was wondering why i was obi all of a susdden

do i also have a rank on the windows edition?

[edgy saddle]

No, they have a seperate ranking system

Like its rank for the game modes themselves, instead of a whole server rank

[midnight flicker]

mm thats too bbad

java is dying out

[hushed bluff]

hello

im new people in dc Cubecraft

[fathom coyote]

Heya!

[fathom coyote]

I don't know what that sentence means

[violet gulch]

They mean their blocks are getting lag

Maybe your ping Is high?

[violet gulch]

what is your ping

[violet hare]

Are you playing from a laptop?

If u are it is bc ur wifi connection isnt cable. I also have that bug when my blocks are in my left hand, i think its bc of that

Well using blocks with left hand makes them dissapear,either use main hand or do less cps ( normal clicking).

I can suggest u getting an ethernet cable for wifi, but setting it the laptop can be a problem if it doesnt have a port. If u want to fix it u have to spend money😕

[violet hare]

its not high cps, fesa said that there is no cps cap. I think that with main hand the blocks are regsitered faster and not having a cable conection isnt a problem. I tried everything to fix this bug for me and this is the only option left. Im getting an ethernet cable soon and if it gets fixed I will tell u.

[jaunty oar]

@fathom coyote tab list bugged

egg wars

[jaunty oar]

bro

[sage wadi]

Submit Bug reports here:

Java: https://www.cubecraft.net/form/java-bug-reports.4/select

[fathom coyote]

What does this mean? Is it white people at the top

[jaunty oar]

no

i'll open a ticket second

[fathom coyote]

Will look into after dinner or next week. Not the biggest problem

[fading lance]

Where do i report bugs without using forums?

there's a glitch on skywars where me and the final player was both invis

[violet gulch]

You dont

[fading lance]

ahh..

well at least they're aware of it now ig

i got recordings of it if a developer want to see

[edgy saddle]

Thats where the fourms comes in~

[fading lance]

that's a lot of unnecessary hassle for someone who just wants to report 1 bug without an account tho

[edgy saddle]

Making a fourms account is as quick as making an email account, its the linking that takes a while

[fathom coyote]

ya, this is being looked into

If it's a big bug, feel free to tag me

[fading lance]

alright no worries

[noble bough]

it's nothing major

just a few matches then it goes away

for me it was 1 match

[trail kindle]

Finally I was unbanned on Minecraft Java CubeCraft

[spark crater]

Real

[wintry trail]

Can anybody help me update fabric from 1.20.1 to 1.20.2?

whenever i try to load minecraft it sais my mods are incompatible even though i have installed the latest version and put them in my mods folder

[hushed coral]

ima be honest whoever thought firework explosion arrows was a good idea should be fired

[violet gulch]

You needs the mods to all be 1.20.2 too

If you are using the mods from your 1.20.1 fabric (the exact same files) they won't be compatible

Since they'll be 1.20.1 mods

[trail kindle]

🙂

[quick harbor]

are you at cubecraft aware of the state of java right now?

I can't even see 1 to 2 players per game so it's impossible to win

they are on another map and we are in the same game

[edgy saddle]

Do a /whereami and send it in #💌︱team・help, they should be able to log stuff from there

Also maybe make a bug report too, even if you dont know how to recreate, so its more well known

[quick harbor]

its in like 9 out of 10 games

[edgy saddle]

Hm

Thats weird

[edgy saddle]

Think its related to this

Likely same bug, so they're aware of it. Likely fixing as we speak

Or trying to anyways

[cosmic bough]

i am also experiencing this

the invisible player bug

[quick harbor]

i hope so

its a game-breaking bug

[cosmic bough]

properly game-breaking as well

[fathom coyote]

Yes, don't use play again

[quick harbor]

i dont, but other people do

[fathom coyote]

just fyi, randomly putting a msg in here is just hoping someone seens it. It's more useful to open a ticket, make bug report or tag me

But not on weekends cause I want to sleep 🫠

[quick harbor]

yeah but i figured that since this effects EVERY game i thought they would know

[fathom coyote]

we do know yeah :)

[rotund reef]

someone there? i got a bug in lucky islands java

[violet gulch]

Report bugs on the forums

[old harbor]

BEBE

[steady storm]

hi

what arrows

i havent played this in a while

[edgy saddle]

When you load fireworks (that expload) into a crossbow

I think

[neon perch]

GetJitterPvP hacking

[hollow egret]

get assasinations back

[prime frigate]

.

[teal heart]

lol he’s not hacking

[analog ledge]

^

[hexed flax]

I have a complaint, there are people who are permanently becoming invisible and you can't see them, I think it's a bug.

On Java