☕︱java

[grim shore]

xd

wanna join? xD

[hollow egret]

yes

[mental torrent]

I feel like the whole thing is a stretch

So far

[primal violet]

Bring among slimes back

[hollow egret]

just play normal among us

[spring hawk]

Hiya guys, I uploaded a YouTube video detailing my thoughts, but am doing another one tomorrow with an ex mod going into more depth about this, if possible could people give me some reviews on what they think about the update, either under this or pm me? Thank you 🙂

[hollow egret]

they're ruining the server in making it a copycat of the bedrock cubecraft and thats pretty stupid. one would think that when joining a JAVA server you would get to play on a JAVA server with JAVA style yet u are forced with a resourcepack that basically makes u play cc bedrock on java. then removing 90% of maps and not letting the community choose which remain or setting up a cycle in which old maps like kingdom, under da sea, food, etc are back for a week is stupid. you just cant expect players not to get bored with the same 11 maps for months. they've been ignoring what the players actually want

[zealous mortar]

when will skyblock be back up?

[turbid vault]

literally North Korea 😭

[naive bobcat]

Imo they need to go back to the server it was before september 2022

[sudden pendant]

Liam ga terug naar tinder dan

Heb je al een match

@naive bobcat

[naive bobcat]

💀

[limpid jacinth]

well that is gonna take time guys

[naive bobcat]

I deleted tinder

[sudden pendant]

Nog niet??

Arme jij

[limpid jacinth]

it just open today

[grim shore]

we got plan b

[limpid jacinth]

and whats that

[grim shore]

we opened a smp?

xD

💀

[limpid jacinth]

your just mad cause they updated to 1.19 because you people prefer old versions like seriously we all saw this coming back in September

[grim shore]

mad? 😂

@naive bobcat

look at this goof

[naive bobcat]

what

what

[edgy saddle]

Its not that they updated to 1.19, its mainly the menu change itself

[naive bobcat]

He can have his opinion

[limpid jacinth]

oh you mean the texture in the server

[grim shore]

@limpid jacinth

[edgy saddle]

I mean idrm the menu change, but a lot of java players don't like it

[limpid jacinth]

hmm

[grim shore]

Zelda thing is ugly

[sudden pendant]

Zoals jij je tinder mag hebben

[grim shore]

laggs are poo

[sudden pendant]

Dw ik judge niet

[limpid jacinth]

ya that is one of the things that bugs me

[grim shore]

one thing?

everyone is inehit in ffa

[limpid jacinth]

the menu thing

[hollow egret]

forcing a resourcepack is the dumbest thing ever

[mental torrent]

If I came for java, I should not get bedrock.

[naive bobcat]

well the servers are also crashing every 10 minutes

so

another thing

xD

[sudden pendant]

Je tinder ook?

[limpid jacinth]

wait are they really crashing

i kinda knew that it would lag

[mental torrent]

Didn't experience that in my grand total of 0 games

[sudden pendant]

@naive bobcat

[naive bobcat]

Yes the ffa servers

[thin musk]

I would like to mention that this is just a soft launch and doesn’t comprise of everything coming to the server. It’s by far our biggest update we’ve ever done and naturally that means it’ll come with some bugs and balancing issues which will be ironed out over time

[lavish cypress]

@thin musk fix then? (/fix)

[hollow egret]

i hope the resourcepack is a bug

[thin musk]

There’s lots of room for improvement and we recognize that, which is why we did the update this way

[mental torrent]

I am too lazy to open a ticket

[naive bobcat]

Yes we understand but we are just a little disappointed with a few things

[sudden pendant]

Im afraid it isn’t

[mental torrent]

Please tell me you are joking.

[thin musk]

We updated to 1.19 to utilize the latest game features and expand what we can do with our content

[thin musk]

The resource pack is in fact not a bug :)

[sudden pendant]

:(

That’s unfortunate

[grim shore]

texture pack is very poop, zelda from 1998

very poop

[lavish cypress]

Can't u just use a resource pack that works over the servers one?

[mental torrent]

No. I am quitting this.

[thin musk]

It allows us to do things like have custom blocks & items, and plays a major role in some of the newer features we’ve added to games like lucky islands, which has custom entities

[mental torrent]

It places it at the top

[sudden pendant]

I think there should be an option to disable it, it ruined my fps

[limpid jacinth]

so its in beta rn

[rocky yoke]

wassup

[lavish cypress]

Goofy java

[thin musk]

In what way?

[naive bobcat]

well deal with it

[sudden pendant]

I went from 1600fps to 100

Idk how

[thin musk]

Did you previously play on 1.12?

[sudden pendant]

Yes

[grim shore]

no

u smelly

[thin musk]

It’s probably just the fact that the game requires more resources to run now

[sudden pendant]

But when i play on other servers with 1.19 my fps isnt that low

[mental torrent]

I literally lag with a 16x16 resourcepack. I will always use an 8x8 one.

[thin musk]

I’d suggest installing the sodium mod for fabric - it’s honestly a godsend for performance

But yea, tl;dr we recognize that there is room for improvement and changes will be made based on community feedback. Again this is the largest update we’ve ever done and naturally that means it’ll come with more issues and bugs than typical single-game updates, so please bear with us as we iron out the issues and adjust gameplay mechanics 💙

If you all do have suggestions or ideas for how things could be tweaked, please let us know on the forums. Saying “update bad pls revert” doesn’t really help us at all

[sudden pendant]

It’s just that i think a lot of people who actually pvp don’t really care about blocks and stuff but more about just good peformance

[mental torrent]

The resource pack does not fit the platform theming - modern

It feels way too overdetailed sometimes

[spring hawk]

@hollow egret thank you

[hollow egret]

👍

[spring hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u39sybf3sI

[thin musk]

Are you able to elaborate?

[spring hawk]

If anyone’s interested that’s the video I made

[mental torrent]

Not right now

[spring hawk]

Elaborating more tomorrow 🙂

[thin musk]

We tried to keep our custom textures fairly close to vanilla so if there’s more specific feedback I’d love to hear it 😄

[primal violet]

nerf shields pls

[sudden pendant]

I don’t get why they changed the chat, it really looked fine before now it just feels too overwhelming

[mental torrent]

Though you couldn't keep the Laby fancy font? I am not sure if that's possible because that may be a me problem

[mental torrent]

I don't remember the chat at all

[thin musk]

I’m not sure what that is

[hollow egret]

NOBODY wants a resourcepack in the first place!! why would u think we want a resourcepack

didnt u see what happened with that one closed beta server that also had a similar resourcepack

[mental torrent]

I will try to expand on that tomorrow. I can't right now

[thin musk]

resource packs let us significantly expand the content we can bring to the community

[spring hawk]

but we didn’t need it expanded

it just looks childish

[thin musk]

Custom items, blocks, entities, etc.

[sudden pendant]

Yeah

[spring hawk]

And laggy

[hollow egret]

Goofy ahh update

[sudden pendant]

isn’t cube a pvp based server?

[spring hawk]

what was wrong with what we had previously?

did it look to mature

because let me tell you

[primal violet]

well the server was dying anyways

[spring hawk]

cool lobby textures isn’t gonna get more people involved

[hollow egret]

do u see the biggest server using a resourcepack for their skyblock gamemode because of custom items and such?

[thin musk]

It’s also worth mentioning that the lag you are mentioning isn’t specifically due to the resource pack

[spring hawk]

well everyone is experiencing it

so it has to be server side

[thin musk]

Did you previously play on 1.12?

[sudden pendant]

Then what is it?

[primal violet]

i do not

[spring hawk]

I played 1.16.5

And 1.12

[thin musk]

Or an older version in general ig

But that’s prob part of it

[spring hawk]

I can easily get 3-500 fps

[thin musk]

The game is far bigger than it was in 1.12 & 1.16.5, so naturally it’s going to require more resources

[hollow egret]

Forcing to use a resource pack for the whole server isn’t good. Also the lobby-to-minigame looks confusing and doesn’t look good. It’s way too much. A simple menu is enough

[spring hawk]

But why does it go from 300fps to 40

[sudden pendant]

Yeah but the fact i went from 1600 to around 100 doesnt sound right to me

[mental torrent]

I do think there is a Mojang problem too, in a way that 1.19 is not optimised enough to be another "big" version

[spring hawk]

that is ridiculous

[thin musk]

Did you use any clients on 1.12?

[sudden pendant]

Yes

[thin musk]

They probably had some performance enhancements inside of them as well

[sudden pendant]

I know

[spring hawk]

I’m still using lunar

[thin musk]

So comparing that to 1.19 is very unfair

[spring hawk]

and it has still dropped

[sudden pendant]

But it’s still a really big difference

[spring hawk]

To 50fps

[hollow egret]

And for the ffa, nobody cares about a good looking ffa minigame. I get that you want a resource pack for example lucky islands, but now you force the whole server to use the resource pack even if you don’t need it

[thin musk]

Is lunar 1.12 still maintained?

[edgy saddle]

Also new settings that you likely need to adjust

[sudden pendant]

And i still use clients

[spring hawk]

yep

I mean I used 1.16.5 lunar

Mainly

And had no problem with high fps

[thin musk]

The devs have far more experience working with older versions simply due to the fact that they’ve existed longer

[spring hawk]

that’s true

[thin musk]

So it’s possible some of the performance enhancements were not included in the later versions

[hollow egret]

They should’ve never remove 1.8😔

[spring hawk]

so surely on a server with 1k people you’d keep lag down naturally?

[thin musk]

However, sodium is a great mod that helps with performance

[spring hawk]

so why the upgrade when no one plays on 1.19

[thin musk]

There’s only so much we can do on our end

[spring hawk]

every decent player plays on an old client

[thin musk]

However the far majority of players before we updated we’re on 1.19

[sudden pendant]

I can’t leave my dear lunar client

[mental torrent]

Labymod 4 on 1.19 is a banger

When it gets released though...

[hollow egret]

Biggest server of all, hypixel, has nothing modern looking like that. Just available for 1.8 and 1.12. Nothing too cool, just simple but good performing. Nobody needs all the cool resource packs for certain games. It won’t help to get you more people. The marketing guy at cubecraft needs to be educated

Look into what people want, what gets people, and at competitors who are way bigger than you

exactly

Then see what people want, appreciate and don’t care about

[edgy saddle]

But hypixel is also java only...

[hollow egret]

I get that it’s a new update and you’re still searching if people like it, but this is way too much

[edgy saddle]

So it has a lot more freedom

[hollow egret]

Yes I understand

Nee is gewoon super slim

[lost surge]

Hi

[mental torrent]

Cubecraft is themed modern. I could except a transparent GUI at last

[sudden pendant]

Te slim voor cube

[hollow egret]

Ja

Dus hou cube gewoon dom

Ipv al die domme updates

[naive bobcat]

The recourse pack destroys the good thing about minecraft we like minecraft because of their crappy textures

[sudden pendant]

Het ging al mis toen 1.8 weg ging

[hollow egret]

Snap dat het trendy moet zijn maar ziet er niet uit

[sudden pendant]

Nu dit

[hollow egret]

Ja dat sowieso

[spring hawk]

redned I understand your not the only one working on this and I appreciate you talking to us, because I’ve tried to contact others with no help just ‘go to the forums’, but it doesn’t sound like anyone on your end has listened to the dedicated player base, just because 40,000 kids like bedrock doesn’t mean the long term player base which got cubecraft to 10 years is gonna like all this funky, non sensical stuff. No other Java server has morphed so far to looking like bedrock for good reason, and unfortunately the only ones giving good reviews are the ones who aren’t good at minecraft enough, or the ones who don’t play enough

[lost surge]

+1

[sudden pendant]

Ja ze willen kinderen aantrekkej maar meeste mensen die java spelen zijn niet 12 zoals bedrock

[thin musk]

That’s like asking a small chain restaurant to compete with McDonald’s. Hypixel is significantly larger than us and if we went their route and made everything 1.8, we’d be alienating our entire playerbase. It’d end up being significantly worse and it’d probably result in nearly the entire community leaving

[fallow sage]

Helemaal mee eens

[hollow egret]

Just get a normal menu in lobby and give resource pack only for the minigames you really need it for. It’s a good update, but not for the whole server. A part of it dies because of it..

[spring hawk]

I agree, 1.8 is a bad move

[hollow egret]

I understand

[mental torrent]

I do think textures look bad in the hotbar. Background on ranks does not look good either

[hollow egret]

we're not asking you to switch to 1.8! when ur playerbase is mainly 1.12 why would u suddenly switch to 1.19 with a forced resourcepack?

I just love 1.8😔

[hollow egret]

This

[spring hawk]

Very good point

[fallow sage]

CubeCraft zorgt er zelf voor dat hun eigen server naar de verdoemenis gaat. Beweren ze dat Bedrock veel beter is dan Java etc. Slaat nergens op, ze kunnen geen initiatief nemen om een probleem met te weinig spelers op te lossen. Gaat nergens over. Neem een voorbeeld aan Hypixel, meer dan 50 duizend spelers op een dag en nog steeds op Java

[spring hawk]

This has to be addressed

[fallow sage]

CubeCraft won't listen i guess

[spring hawk]

Guys out of curiosity how many people are logged on to cube now?

[thin musk]

Our player base is mostly 1.19

[hollow egret]

Like I know competing isn’t possible. I didn’t mean it like that, but if you wanna get bigger as server you look at the competitors who are already bigger than you. Compare what you can and can’t do with the size cubecraft has now, and see if you can expand after a while

[edgy saddle]

One thing that i think would be a good idea is to make the menu pack optional, and force the item pack stuff on the players

[mental torrent]

I don't think a texturepack has to be forced, when a much more creative solution can be used instead

[spring hawk]

clearly not the dedicated ones

[edgy saddle]

Separate them into two packs

[hollow egret]

387

nice job redned
your insane update has been clearly successful
👏

[fallow sage]

They never listen to the community. Their updates are based on their own ideas and are always a secret, resulting in a suprise for the whole community. And almost every time, the update from Cube was very bad, and enough people didn't like it

[naive bobcat]

That’s so bad..

[spring hawk]

Skyblock had usually 200 people which was forced 1.19, fair enough the main bulk, plus the younger audience who don’t know about clients, apart from that, I can’t see anyone else using 1.19

[naive bobcat]

It should’ve been above 1000

[spring hawk]

easily 6-800 this time

[hollow egret]

The thing is, they took a lot of time and money and work in this update, so even if we want to let them know most of the update needs to be removed, only parts are good, they won’t listen because it would be their waste of time

[sudden pendant]

Tbh i don’t know a lot of people that used 1.19 to pvp but could be just me

[edgy saddle]

tbf it was a kinda surprise update, it'll be much higher when the proper release happens

[hollow egret]

So they will only listen to a small amount of ideas and maybe change a few bugs but the update won’t be removed at all

[fallow sage]

But bro, last summer, cubecraft had over 1900 players a day. They ruined it for themselves

[hollow egret]

Astaghfurillah

[hollow egret]

because they dont care about the community

[naive bobcat]

It’s an update day. If it was a great update we should’ve had over 1000 players at this point of time

[hollow egret]

Youre ruinining it

[thin musk]

The update won’t be removed, but again, we’re very open to community feedback and suggestions

[sudden pendant]

Ruininint

[mental torrent]

Big updates should ALWAYS split into smaller parts to see how the community goes on

[thin musk]

It’s a soft launch for a reason :)

[spring hawk]

and so quickly a server is gonna die if this team doesn’t react and revert fast, as I know most of the good players on eggwars are currently playing on chefcraft and/or khaotic war

[hollow egret]

As I said

[fallow sage]

Nah, they are to selfish to remove the whole update they worked 9 months for.

[thin musk]

There’s more to come, see public Notion board

[sudden pendant]

Even more?…

[spring hawk]

With all due respect, no one wants more

[hollow egret]

Removing the update won’t happen, but changing the update neither. Most of it will be like it is now. Only buts gonna get fixed

[fallow sage]

Even more bad updates?

[spring hawk]

we want less

[mental torrent]

Just take the smaller bites

[sudden pendant]

We wanr less

[fallow sage]

Eggwars is completely ruined

[hollow egret]

I told you months ago updating 1.19 would be a bad idea
but u didnt listen
good job!

[fallow sage]

Eggwars was literally the biggest part of cubecraft and they just COMPLETELY ruined it

[spring hawk]

everyone said this

[mental torrent]

Eggwars is currently unbalanced.

[edgy saddle]

The only idea i have to help with the main deal of all this is to separate the texture pack into two, make the menu textures an optional pack, and make the item textures a forced pack

So you get best of both worlds

[hollow egret]

op mode is basically normal mode now, very nice going

Just make the menu like it was and remove the resource packs for the server overall. Give a forced resource pack for certain minigames but not all. Ffa doesn’t need it. They also don’t need 1.19, but I guess there’s no chance in changing that

fire aspect swords aswell lol

Easy as that

[thin musk]

I like this kind of feedback. So it seems the issue is mainly with the menus?

[edgy saddle]

From what i can tell, yes

[fallow sage]

Why not, the update is bad and you guys have to accept the loss. Listen to the community and base your ideas on what they want. That's one of the main parts of solving the players problem.

[thin musk]

The resource pack wont be the source of the lag at the end of the day. I doubt we'd end up making the pack "fully" optional but feedback like this that lets us know what specifically you want tweaked really helps

[hollow egret]

average player peak before 1.19 update: 800-1k players
player peak now: 700-800 players
nice job, your update clearly boosted playercounts!

[mental torrent]

From the words of my friends:
Food is too expensive
Tools are too expensive
Armor is cheap
Archery is VERY cheap

[thin musk]

We want to move forward with our content. Sticking to 1.12 is not sustainable for us going forward

[spring hawk]

okay so you listen to feedback about texture packs but nothing about gameplay

[thin musk]

?

[sharp geyser]

Hi! Question, why cube servers are laged?

[spring hawk]

and how everyone hates gameplay

[fallow sage]

But look at Hypixel mate?

[hollow egret]

today is update-day too so probably the highest they'll get

[hollow egret]

exaclty

[mental torrent]

This is short term. What about long term? My best guess is thay they will just stay the same

[hollow egret]

Yes that’s a good one. Menu is a problem, and resource packs for all the minigames is a problem, because not all need it. Menu too confusing and too much (before was fine, easy and good overlooking). Resource packs are okay, but don’t force it for the whole server

[edgy saddle]

It needs to be done with an idea on how to fix it too, like with what i said

[fallow sage]

Hypixel is still classic, and they are getting over a 50 thousand people a day?

[naive bobcat]

We understand but we like the crappy design more.

[mental torrent]

40k on skyblock alone

[thin musk]

Gameplay feedback is very important as well. Again, part of this update is to gauge community feedback on balancing & whatnot

[fallow sage]

Please mate, let us help solving this problems and make Cube great again

[hollow egret]

yea
best case scenario
it will prob drop to around 500 players in a couple of months
and finally shutdown after

[spring hawk]

1.19 is no way gonna help moving forward, maybe wait until 1.21 and then go to 1.19 when it’s more stable?

[fallow sage]

Last summer: 1900 players each day

[hollow egret]

yep

[spring hawk]

Surely this is just simple stuff

[hollow egret]

even that number doesnt seem so bad now

[thin musk]

1.19 is quite stable - it's been out for almost a year now

[spring hawk]

not listening to the community has cost over a thousand players to leave this past year, and the best solution is a childish update to 1.19

[edgy saddle]

A previous version doesn't just get more stable, 1.12.2 has always been very stable, 1.13 has always not been

[naive bobcat]

Yes before they removed all the games

[hollow egret]

i seriously hope you're joking

[fallow sage]

No, 1900 was fine. And it was enough to improve. But improving from under the 1000 players is something that is very hard to accomplish

[thin musk]

It's obviously going to require more resources, but it's by no means an "unstable" version

[spring hawk]

you said previously 1.16.5 was more stable because it was out longer

[hollow egret]

1.19 uses 4x the amount of ram that 1.12 does

[fallow sage]

Yep, that was the biggest mistake.

[edgy saddle]

It is more stable then every other update before it after 1.12.2

[mental torrent]

I see the patter mojang goes:
1.8, 1.12, 1.16, next is 1.20 so you were a bit early with 1.19

[thin musk]

It's been out longer so the devs of said clients that work on 1.12 even today have had longer to work on it

But vanilla 1.12.2 is just as stable today as it was when it was released

[naive bobcat]

True they should go back to the 2022 server before September

[thin musk]

Mojang does not backport fixes to older versions

[mental torrent]

So in theory 1.20 should be stable enough

[fallow sage]

Then why don't you guys stay on vanilla?

[thin musk]

We can't deliver content on vanilla by itself

But our software is built on top of it

[fallow sage]

YES mate, from April to mid August

[edgy saddle]

This also implies that 1.0 was stable btw, same with 1.4

(Spoiler, they weren't)

[hollow egret]

I thought cubecraft during that time was dead, but looking at whats happening right now, i kinda take that back

[edgy saddle]

Well 1.0 at least, idk with 1.4

[fallow sage]

Man, i have huge respect for you guys, but just update the things that are necessary.

[mental torrent]

1.0 is the starting point

[edgy saddle]

Servers did exist (partly) before 1.0

[spring hawk]

surely you can separate the servers like what was done with 1.8 and 1.9+ back a year ago, separate it to 1.9+ and 1.19+, and then see the player differences

[edgy saddle]

Just not on as big as a scale

[hollow egret]

7 months for an update that a lot of people don't like
good job!

[fallow sage]

Man, i didn't even thought of cube begin dead. It was great that time. Every game was full in a couple of minutes, sometimes under a minute {in Eggwars}. That was very nice. Everyone was active.

[naive bobcat]

Omg yes

[thin musk]

Again, if you guys have constructive feedback I'd love to hear it. But I don't have time for complaints that don't help anything move forward

[hollow egret]

looking back, the server is alot less dead than it was now

[edgy saddle]

As again, with what i first said about separating textures, do something like that

[mental torrent]

Right now what I see is trying to gain palyercount at a cost of 1.12 community

[edgy saddle]

Give an idea that'll help them change that, or more understand exactly what you want changed about visuals, or stuff like that

[spring hawk]

I’ve created a full video and tried the forums, and I believe what I just wrote before was constructive

asking for it to be split to see if this new ‘flashy block pallet approach’ works

[hollow egret]

most new players are going to bedrock
that isnt so good for ccs new update

[edgy saddle]

Its more people doing text like this

[thin musk]

Fully splitting the resource pack wouldn't be an ideal solution at the end of the day sadly. I believe it was menus you didn't like? If there's anything else please feel free to share. It's not out of the question that the resource pack can be modified if there are features that are highly unpopular

[edgy saddle]

And all that

[fallow sage]

But guys, we all know it all went wrong by removing gamemodes and maps from sky- and eggwars right? They said it was removed due to financial issues. Man, literally, why don't u remove the USELESS games like Parkour to save space?

[hollow egret]

ye

[spring hawk]

because I’d understand if it was split like I said, and for example, 800 people played 1.19 and then 200 played 1.9+, then yes, I’d understand just moving completely to 1.19

[thin musk]

They were removed to keep games actively starting. Financial issues had nothing to do with this - if they did, we would have not temporarily shut down the Java store

[spring hawk]

but having no tests just a soft launch which ‘isn’t going to be removed’ even though everyone hates it

please it makes no sense

[hollow egret]

^^
well said

[thin musk]

it's a bit unrealistic to expect us to completely backtrack on everything we've done

[mental torrent]

I remember a menu being jagged a bit (I will go in details tomorrow it's 1:30 am forgive me)

[spring hawk]

Redned that’s not what I’m asking

[spark crater]

gm guys

[thin musk]

Again, we are very open to feedback and will be modifying and tweaking things based on community feedback

[hollow egret]

its also a bit unrealistic to not ask the community what they wanted in the new update

[spring hawk]

just please try and release the previous version and the new version, to see which is preferred due to the player base and the numbers that generates

[thin musk]

This is not an option for us

[hollow egret]

should've been like that from the start
but I guess its too late!

[willow condor]

After the update, even though there are now 3D models and and more variety of blocks, I have better performance than before. The Spawn in the lobby went from an average of 100fps to 130fps

[spring hawk]

why not?

[thin musk]

There were massive internal changes as part of this update

Running a 1.12 network and a 1.19 network would further divide the community as well

chances are games on 1.12 would never start at all

[edgy saddle]

Yeah, its moreso (if possible) give people the option to have something similar to the old menus when say swapping game modes or voting, the new ones i personally don't mind but from what ive seen, the new menus becoming way too similar to bedrock and it being forced on them is the main problem. If it wasn't forced then i think it may help, keep all the special items textures and all that there and all thats needed to make the server run but its the layout of the menus themselves, i think

[spring hawk]

right that’s fair enough

[hollow egret]

1.12.2 had a pretty active ffa community tbh
and ffa had the most players
looks like they are leaving after this disaster of an update

[spring hawk]

but chances are aren’t gonna solve anything if cube has 300 players playing at this time it’s gonna die eventually

[edgy saddle]

Please say if this is the main problem, those others that are here

Just making sure

[spring hawk]

something has to change or revert

like egg wars wasn’t broken

it was perfect

how everyone liked it

why is it now unplayable?

[thin musk]

you're going to need to be more specific

[mental torrent]

Egg wars is just really unbalanced

[spring hawk]

because if tests were taken out with players who actually play eggwars, none of this would’ve happened

so

[hollow egret]

they removed half of the eggwars maps, even though story said it didnt cost extra to run extra maps
which caused some eggwars players to leave due to repetitive maps

[edgy saddle]

Think of it like releasing a new fighting game character, it takes time to get balanced out

[spring hawk]

first of all, the emerald revamp back in last September

[hollow egret]

triple a moment

[edgy saddle]

Is why red is asking how they should balance it

[spring hawk]

fantastic update

[mental torrent]

Food and tools are expensive
Armor and archery is very cheap

[spring hawk]

Everyone liked the emerald revamp

[fallow sage]

HUH, but man this doesn't make any sense? You guys literally removed the BEST maps and de best gamemodes? What do you expect then? Getting more players? Literally more than a half quit

[spring hawk]

so why now has emerald generators been removed

there were no bad reviews

[mental torrent]

It takes time, but the thing about how crazily it's unbalanced is laughable

[spring hawk]

and the map revamps months ago

[edgy saddle]

Bayoneta from smash 4 be like

[spring hawk]

Tea party got revamped just for it to get removed weeks after

[mental torrent]

I am from Minerware mostly

[hollow egret]

ormeta night from brawl

[edgy saddle]

Yeah

Precisely

[spring hawk]

I get reducing the maps, that worked well

brilliant update in September

great transparency

[edgy saddle]

Now look at bayo in ultimate, she is pretty fine to play with

(Lets not talk about steve)

[thin musk]

At the end of the day, it's obviously our best interest to keep the server online and running as possible. It does us no good as a server and a company (especially from an economical sense) to try and keep players from playing. Hard decisions have to be made sometimes, and we can't always hold onto the past forever if we want to grow. If you have specific feedback and ideas that would improve the server, I'd love to hear it and placing your suggestions on the forums will definitely help make it seen and allow us to gauge how popular your suggestion is.

[edgy saddle]

Like someone suggesting my idea on the forums would help it to become a reality (if only partially)

[hollow egret]

your update clearly worked so well!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914667959467794466/1092941174613999646/ml.PNG

[thin musk]

Feedback is much appreciated, but random complaints really do not help

[hollow egret]

any news on the eggwars maps? time to change them maybe?

[thin musk]

Complaints dont get anybody anywhere

[hollow egret]

.

[thin musk]

if you have constructive feedback, I'm all ears 😄

[thin musk]

again, comments like this really do not help

if you have something constructive to add to the conversation, I'd love to hear it

otherwise your comments are not going to go anywhere

[hollow egret]

i suggest u revert the update asap

[edgy saddle]

For those who don't understand, suggest an idea on how to fix it, an actual idea that they can implement and still keep the spirit of the update

[hollow egret]

its clearly a disaster

[spring hawk]

My post has been liked and my video has been viewed and commented on, all supporting my points, and I understand your aims of course I do, but my problem is eggwars is iconic with cubecraft. The game hasn’t changed in 10 years, and apart from very recently has been the most popular game mode apart from skywars. If something like this update happened to bedwars the whole community would go into meltdown

Cube has been a huge part of everyone’s lives I’m sure

[thin musk]

The game has been tweaked and modified significantly since it's creation in 2015

[hollow egret]

add a map cycle that brings back different old maps every week, it isnt hard to implement and would get players out of the current map-burnout and also bring back nostalgia

[thin musk]

its nothing like it was at the start tbh

[fallow sage]

@thin musk

[thin musk]

if there are specific things mentioned that'd definitely help though

[edgy saddle]

Yeah like putting this on the forums would really help, its their main way to keep track of new ideas and ideas that the community wants

[thin musk]

We do want to keep continuously updating and adding more to the game

we cannot let it stagnate or it will die

[edgy saddle]

Ofc in more detail, if possible

[hollow egret]

i did put this on the forums!! then some mod wannabe started lecturing me on how its all going to change in the upcoming 1.19 update

[spring hawk]

Not like it is now, I’ve played since 2016 and we have had nothing like netherite armour, because at that point what’s the point in having a void, knock back is totally negated and punch bows don’t even exist, op isn’t op like it always was because you die in 5 hits

[edgy saddle]

Maybe put it up again, now the 1.19 update is out

[hollow egret]

why even bother anymore

[edgy saddle]

So it cant be used as a rebate

[edgy saddle]

I swear netherrite only sometimes negates knock back, at least last time i looked at the wiki

I mean yeah it reduces it

But like its only sometimes its removed

[fathom coyote]

Punch is still in the game fyi

[edgy saddle]

Yeah

[spring hawk]

In the history of eggwars the fundamentals have always been the same, op is prot 4 armour, that’s changed, sharp 2 swords, that’s changed, prices changed, gens changed, em gens removed

[thin musk]

I appreciate this feedback. Again, I'm sure balancing tweaks will occur and if netherite is too op as it stands, it will likely be modified in some way

[spring hawk]

Is it in op?

[edgy saddle]

Netherrite is more like a prevention against non punch

[spring hawk]

My apologies

[edgy saddle]

Or close to it

[fathom coyote]

Punch is in all modes. You have to buy the enchantment from the enchantment table at mid

[edgy saddle]

At least that's my view on it

[fathom coyote]

While I agree that the current EggWars needs a lot of tweaking and balancing. The prot 4 OP did not work well

I really believe the new OP setup works a lot better than just slapping prot 4 on everything and making people unkillable

[spring hawk]

With all due respect I believe your talking about the casual

[edgy saddle]

Which makes the battle into "who can void the other or break the armour". Which isn't too fun

[spring hawk]

which is what I suppose cube is gearing towards

[fathom coyote]

Most of our player base are casual players..?

[edgy saddle]

Its probably why people don't like netherrite, removes one of these two

Somewhat

[spring hawk]

yes but this isn’t my point

[hollow egret]

Free For all
why i feel It's out of balance

[spring hawk]

I’ve spoke about the dedicated player base

the ones who donate and spend lots of time

sorry if I didn’t make this clear

[hollow egret]

goodjob keeping that player base LOL

[edgy saddle]

A lot of things will be out of balance as a big update is released, it'll all be balanced out after some time and community feedback on exactly what needs balancing

[fathom coyote]

What we had before was not working, we need to find a new and refreshing way to encourage new players to play the game. I believe the update is a big step in the right direction.
EggWars specifically will need a lot of balancing and tweaking seeing as it has an entire “economy” system. But I truly believe we can make it work

[hollow egret]

The old and new hit damage is very different.

[spring hawk]

I’ve been in tournaments, watched tournaments, played with the best eggwars players and let me tell you, everyone in that season 1 leaderboard is leaving this server

[fathom coyote]

This is Mojangs bug fix that was released with 1.19.4. I believe you can turn it of in video settings

[edgy saddle]

That's what they all said when 1.8 went

Yet here we are

[spring hawk]

production has already started on a new replica eggwars sever

[edgy saddle]

Ofc some people will leave, that's inevitable

[spring hawk]

which automatically removes at least 100 players

[edgy saddle]

But change is the only true way to grow

[fathom coyote]

There have been other EggWars servers since the dawn of EggWars

[spring hawk]

of course

but eggwars on cube has always been the main one

right

[hollow egret]

when in game What do I have to do to go back to the lobby

[fathom coyote]

I’m also unsure how this matters. It was clear that what we had wasn’t working. The playercount was lowering. We have to try something new

[edgy saddle]

/hub i think

[spring hawk]

it’s a shame because everyone in the community im in is moving away, and although this isn’t a big issue for everyone at cube, it’s something everyone is attatched too

[fathom coyote]

You can use /leave to return to the lobby. Or /hub or /lobby

[spring hawk]

but it’s a simple fix

[edgy saddle]

Every community drifts eventually

That's a fact

I've seen it too often

Change is the way to keep it alive for longer

[spring hawk]

just put the ‘old eggwars’ in next to it, open up 3 more sub servers at a time

Done

it’s an easy fix imo

[fathom coyote]

I’d like to mention that the EggWars community I started in, was completely different from what you believe to be the EggWars community. Times change

[hollow egret]

maybe ask the community? like when u removed the maps should have asked what maps should remain

[fathom coyote]

I don’t think this is possible code wise

[spring hawk]

it’s true

[hollow egret]

Ok thanks

[thin musk]

This isn't something we're going to do. Again, this is jut going to split the community

[edgy saddle]

I think it was mainly done on which maps was the most voted for

[hollow egret]

thanks

[thin musk]

We'd rather work with you all to get eggwars in a state where everyone is happy

[edgy saddle]

To play

In game

Idk

[spring hawk]

it just feels like everything now is geared towards the new player and not those who made cube what it is

[edgy saddle]

For sure

[thin musk]

if we dont update the game, it'll go stagnant

[spring hawk]

every new player is going toward by hypixel and that’s fact

[hollow egret]

you already did that with your new insane update
dedicated 1.12 ffa players are already leaving cause of the lag on 1.19

[hollow egret]

no they werent, im 100% sure mushroom wasnt the most played map

[spring hawk]

the community is split because we aren’t involved in this change

[edgy saddle]

That's just because its more well known

[spring hawk]

Exactly

[edgy saddle]

That's why people gravitate to it

[spring hawk]

so why is this server more geared to the new player nowv

?

[edgy saddle]

That's a size issue, not a server issue

[spring hawk]

because it makes no sense

[edgy saddle]

People need to understand that change happens.

[fathom coyote]

I think fixes for lag in ffa have already been pushed out. We’re still in beta, so a lot of these issues will be fixed when we fully release

[spring hawk]

financially to keep it up, you guys should rely on the player base which got you here

[hollow egret]

i meant 1.19 minecraft itsself was laggy

[spring hawk]

Of course it does, but when the community isn’t involved and a game breaking change is made, it’s never gonna go down well

[hollow egret]

nobody wants to pvp on those versions

[fathom coyote]

I have roughly the same fps on 1.12 as on 1.19

[edgy saddle]

Compared to other versions, no

(Namely looking at 1.13)

[hollow egret]

LOL

[spring hawk]

if your talking about cube that’s a straight up lie

everyone has issues

[edgy saddle]

That's just because its in beta

[thin musk]

I dont

[hollow egret]

1.12.2 ram usage: 1.5gb tops
1.19 ram usage: 3+gb

[edgy saddle]

It take time to optimise

[spring hawk]

yes I know it’s in beta

[thin musk]

my 1.19 mc instance has 1 gig allocated

[spring hawk]

so you’ll have issues

but saying you don’t is a lie

[hollow egret]

i find that hard to believe

[spring hawk]

anywho I’m off to sleep

Gn all

[fathom coyote]

Good night Twiggo x

[edgy saddle]

He can show evidence probably

[hollow egret]

show me a screenshot of 1.19 minecraft in game using 1gb of ram

task manager

[thin musk]

ram usage in task manager is an inconclusive measurement due to how the java garbage collector works

because java is continuously allocating and freeing memory

[hollow egret]

still doesnt change the fact that 1.19 uses way more ram than 1.12
which will affect people with lower end pcs

[thin musk]

I think everyone has at least a gig to allocate to the game

even if it's using 2 gigs

[hollow egret]

think
nice logic

[fathom coyote]

I'm running it just fine on the default 2 allocated. Which, as far as I know, the default for all version of the game

[edgy saddle]

Mine is rather in the very low end, and it can run mc (with a client) pretty well

[static schooner]

https://filmora.wondershare.com/game-recording/how-to-allocate-more-ram-to-minecraft.html

[fathom coyote]

If you have less than a gig of memory, you're not running 1.12 either

[thin musk]

if you dont have a gig to allocate to minecraft, you're going to run into significantly larger issues

^

[hollow egret]

also if ur right about that, you will have significant lagspikes when loading new chunks
so u will have to reduce render distance to like 4

[thin musk]

I dont

[hollow egret]

prove it

[spring hawk]

xx

[thin musk]

Ram isnt the issue

it'd be down to cpu

more ram doesnt always equal faster game

[rustic wigeon]

How much dedotated wam to run a minecwaft server

[edgy saddle]

He knows what he's talking about, he's been at this for a long time

[thin musk]

64 terabytes

[edgy saddle]

He has no reason to lie too

[hollow egret]

that will still affect people with lower end computers cause the cpus arent that good

[static schooner]

https://downloadmoreram.com/

[edgy saddle]

yeah lets download ram : )

[hollow egret]

why are we required to use a resourcepack for eggwars

i dont like it

[fathom coyote]

Might be worth mentioning, that you won't be loading in a lot of chunks on our server either way. The maps aren't that enormous

[fathom coyote]

The shop makes use of the resourcepack

[hollow egret]

the old shop was fine

[edgy saddle]

Since menu changes

[fathom coyote]

But the new shop is better

[hollow egret]

no it isnt

[hollow egret]

loading the lobby
💀

[edgy saddle]

That's what they said when bedrock had its menu revamp, yet here we are

People like it

It just takes time

To get used to

[hollow egret]

bedrock has thousands of players, java has a few hundres, do you think java will survive it?

[rustic wigeon]

People don’t like change but will stop complaining soon enough.

[edgy saddle]

Bedrock lost a very small %

[hollow egret]

they dont like it they are forced to it

[fathom coyote]

The new shop will just be getting used to, but it is better than the old one. You also get more favourite items so 🥳

[hollow egret]

idgaf about favourite items

why dont u just add a macro that buys evreything u want?

[fathom coyote]

That sounds like cheating

[edgy saddle]

If you can come up with an idea that can both fix the issue and still allow all the changes, suggest it on the forums :p

[hollow egret]

yeah but ur just a few steps away from adding it to the villager

[hollow egret]

heres my idea: remove the resourcepack

[edgy saddle]

What if you want to buy 1 certain thing now

[edgy saddle]

And the menu breaks, congrats, you made it unplayable

[hollow egret]

it was a sarcastic comment

[edgy saddle]

It now crashes client because things cant load : )

[hollow egret]

i dont like playing bedrock style on java version

[edgy saddle]

Is one outcome of doing that

[rustic wigeon]

You ever heard of the meaning behind “beta”?

[fathom coyote]

I'm not following. Either way, if you have any constructive criticism as to what could be changed with the new shop to make it better. We're more than happy to hear it

[thin musk]

Can you elaborate on this? What do you mean by "bedrock style"?

[edgy saddle]

Just changing it back to what it was, doesn't count

[thin musk]

We're still very much using java combat and mechanics here

[hollow egret]

you're making java a copycat of bedrock with the resourcepack

literally the same npcs

why?

[edgy saddle]

Tldr: they want to look different to bedrock

[fathom coyote]

Our bedrock menu's are very different

[thin musk]

We brought over some of our assets but I'm curious how npcs have anything to do with mechanics or gameplay

[rustic wigeon]

Consistency is key

[edgy saddle]

I think this basically sums it up from what I've heard

Idm it at all honestly

[fathom coyote]

They look much nicer than the npc we used before don't they? We're able to display aspects of the game within them, rather than just a minecraft skin

[edgy saddle]

If anything it makes me feel happier, less menus that i need to get used to

[hollow egret]

why would you bring assets from bedrock to java?? i dont like all this details and crap

i want minecraft to be simplistic not all ultra hyper like that

[rustic wigeon]

BuT I LiKeD tHe OlD wAy

[hollow egret]

whats wrong with just a hologram over a normal mc skin saying "eggwars"?

[edgy saddle]

Maybe instead say something like "make the menu less flashy and more simplistic"

That's constructive

Not, change it back

[fathom coyote]

There is nothing inherently wrong with it, but things don't have to be broken or "wrong". To improve on them

[rustic wigeon]

People be mad over nothing

[edgy saddle]

Honestly yeah

[hollow egret]

with the new update you just make it seem like you are putting the bedrock server on the java server

[edgy saddle]

Then suggest to them to make the menus more simplistic in style instead

Not, "change it back"

[hollow egret]

but we dont want a resource pack!

only lucky blocks needs a resource pack

[rustic wigeon]

You are one person

[edgy saddle]

Well you're gunna have to deal with a resource pack

[turbid vault]

Can we at least get the option to use our own pack if we want because I have a pack I really like to use

[edgy saddle]

How that resource pack looks is what you can change

[hollow egret]

u'll notice the "we" in player dips coming

[turbid vault]

Also the new pack is very laggy for me

[fathom coyote]

You can still use your own pack

[edgy saddle]

That's just version

[thin musk]

I doubt a resource pack is going to cause massive player dips

[hollow egret]

the update is

[edgy saddle]

We'll let the graphs show that

[turbid vault]

Idk why but it doesn’t let me

[edgy saddle]

Didn't happen too badly with bedrock, and it went up afterwards when the pack was added

So why not java?

Scale doesn't matter in this case, before you say bedrock is bigger

[rustic wigeon]

Bedrock is bigger

[hollow egret]

bedrock is filled with children who like shiny colors

java has a more mature player base

[edgy saddle]

And from the looks of your argument, its somewhat similar. Its akin to a child being given a bigger toy and them throwing a tantrum that its not their old one

To put it lightly

[naive bobcat]

Two now

[hollow egret]

because the old toy was better

[rustic wigeon]

Oh no two people out of everyone

Always got to be careful of the vocal minority

[edgy saddle]

||okay that made me laugh at what i said||

[fathom coyote]

Our server side resourcepack will always be on top, to ensure nothing breaks that uses the pack. But you can use your own pack for any items we don't change.
I personally still use my pack, and all armour/sword/... is changed to it

[hollow egret]

they built a community around this 'toy' and the style of it and then just decided to replace the toy and now want u to like it

would u like that?

[turbid vault]

Yeah but the stuff that is changed lags my computer a lot which is the issue

[edgy saddle]

Not replaced, more improved

[naive bobcat]

I don’t rlly like the recourse pack. It feels like I’m playing a different game.

[rustic wigeon]

Man I bet Microsoft wish they stayed on windows 97 with that logic

[turbid vault]

What was the purpose of the resource pack anyway I’m just curious

[edgy saddle]

Maybe not in your eyes, but in mine it is

And im sure its the same for both of us for many others

At the end of the day, there will always be two sides of the argument

[edgy saddle]

To let new custom textures for items to exist

[fathom coyote]

It allows us to display to pretty tags as rank prefixes, use custom blocks (in Lucky Islands) as well as a lot of the custom items (in lucky islands) and menus (in the lobby/eggwars/...)

[rustic wigeon]

At the end of the day it is night

[edgy saddle]

Look at the video in #📢︱announcements

[edgy saddle]

And at the end of the night, its day

Its going to be day at the end of it all

[fathom coyote]

I don't think the pack should be causing a lot of lag issue. If you're able to replicate it, feel free to submit a bug report on our forums so we can have a proper look at it 😄

[rustic wigeon]

This is gonna go on for a while…

[thin musk]

the pack wont be causing lag

[edgy saddle]

Yup...

[thin musk]

its most likey just that 1.19 requires more resources

[edgy saddle]

Yeah

Because java edition is spaghetti code

[thin musk]

Nah, it's more that the game is just super big now

[edgy saddle]

Yeah that's what i mean

[thin musk]

there's is far less spaghetti now than there was in 1.12 :)

[edgy saddle]

Pretty sure it cant use multiple cores

[thin musk]

It does

[deft prism]

Is the sever up yet for bedrock

[edgy saddle]

Or at least is hard to

Its not built to do so

[thin musk]

its more the server that is singlethreaded

the game does things like rendering on multiple threads

[edgy saddle]

Oh yeah that's what it was, yeah i remember a video about that all

[deft prism]

Is the sever up

[thin musk]

yes

[deft prism]

For bedrock

[edgy saddle]

For sb they're talking about

[rustic wigeon]

Yo @thin musk what u develop homie

[edgy saddle]

I think

[deft prism]

I can't get in

[thin musk]

I work on the server & proxy software mainly

[gusty mason]

@oblique vigil fix the game

[edgy saddle]

So performance stuff

[thin musk]

to some extent, yeah

[rustic wigeon]

Translator from Java to bedrock?

[deft prism]

It says invalid frame ID 235

[thin musk]

Translator is long gone ahaha

[rustic wigeon]

Aw 😦

[thin musk]

but part of my job is maintaining version support, including bedrock

[edgy saddle]

Which is understandably difficult

Especially with this big update

[deft prism]

@thin musk is the sever up for bedrock

[thin musk]

yes

[edgy saddle]

Not skyblock though

I think

[deft prism]

I can't join it says

[thin musk]

yea, it was a huge technical change updating the base server software from 1.12 to 1.19

[edgy saddle]

Is what theyre talking about

[thin musk]

im working on skyblock, should be fixed soon™️

[deft prism]

Invalid frame ID

[edgy saddle]

Hell yeah! The ™

[thin musk]

what version are you on?

[edgy saddle]

Love the soon™

[deft prism]

1.19

1.19.73

[edgy saddle]

"When is the end releasing"
Soon™

[deft prism]

V1.19.73

[edgy saddle]

god ive said it way too many times

[thin musk]

this will be a bedrock issue, not java

[deft prism]

No one is on bedrock

[thin musk]

there are 13k people on bedrock

[deft prism]

In the chat

[edgy saddle]

I think theyre talking about bedrock skyblock

maybe

Idk

Im too tired

[rustic wigeon]

https://cbecrft.net/freeranks absolutely no way this still works that is amazing

[edgy saddle]

don't touch that

[deft prism]

Never gonna give you up

[rustic wigeon]

Never gonna let you down

[deft prism]

@thin musk can I get help

[grizzled lichen]

bruh u need iron rank to select map now?

[hexed sphinx]

i've just started cubecraft and it is full of maintenance...

can't even play skyblock

[grizzled lichen]

not the best

[hexed heron]

Alright can they plz listen??? this server sucks now, and it looks fisher price, kinda like Bedrock edition, can yall just revert the update??

[hexed sphinx]

sure sir, and coffee?

[calm cave]

Def wont be reverted but this is a soft release, almost everything is up for community feedback and can be changed. Please dont feel like this is the only update we are doing 😄

[hexed heron]

The community hates everything abt the update, u wont be reverting anything

1.19 only, No labymod, Cant pick maps without iron rank, Lag, The new kit, the texture pack looks like bedrock, The new maps

"Update" more like Downgrade

[calm cave]

We can make changes for sure, not everything is hated. Feedback can be given and we will make changes as time goes on. Feel free to lay out your dislikes on the forums and they will be read, I promise you. 🙂

[hexed heron]

@hollow egret There are 3 hackers on FFA flatlands could you please come?

[marsh perch]

I can def say almost everything if not every change is being hated. The add of netherite made the game modes impossible since there is no knock back, eggwars is officially the most ruined mode of them all. Really I have to get 50 diamonds for 5 blocks of obsidian, really? Also there’s no regen and one simple gold apple on op is 8 gold when it was 3. Oh not to mention that the armor kit is useless since iron is practically free now. Even if you get netherite and good stuff, good luck fighting a person which can kill you on 4 hits even if he is really bad. I could go on an on about how this whole update sucks but well you get the point.

[thin musk]

Hi all, Skyblock is now out of maintenance! Apologies for the downtime here - there were a few last minute issues that needed resolving before the game went back live

You can also now craft & utilize new 1.13 - 1.19 features in the game 😄

[spark crater]

💀

damnnn

[south shard]

Anyone got the changelog for the 1.19 update?

[jovial wren]

Can you smelt buckets for iron nuggets?

[deft prism]

Thank you and your team you guys are amazing 😍

I just wish I could play it

[chilly stratus]

W skyblock update

just need it for bedrock and we have everything

[deft prism]

Fr

[chilly stratus]

Please just add like end rods, I cant build without them, I want to cry
It removes the joy of life.

1 Like = 1 End Rod

[jovial wren]

second island reset on me

[onyx yacht]

the update made half of the people on 1.9 cube quit

be fr

the update is booty

[jovial wren]

Traveling sales man

[onyx yacht]

dont complain when 1.9 cube has 0 players

🤷‍♀️

[jaunty light]

Minecraft

[kind girder]

guys why u hate the update

i don't even play java lmao

[onyx yacht]

dawg

then y u in here

💀💀

[kind girder]

idk lmao

[white lily]

no way

you have to get a rank to choose maps for ffa

[grim shore]

It is like ea now

[twin gull]

Q

[spark crater]

just like bedrocc

[white lily]

its been on bedrock before it was implemented to java?

[spark crater]

yee

[white lily]

dang

[spark crater]

we need rancs to select maps

i got 22 vip

in bedrock

[dusty kernel]

the way u buy things in eggwars seems old!

cheap things are expensive and expensive things are cheap

[hollow stump]

The vip level will be equal in java?

I mean if I buy rank on bedrock

i can use it on java?

[warped mirage]

But what if we make the cheap ones cheap and the expensive ones expensive

[warped mirage]

Java have other ranks then bedrock,
Bedrock have vip, Java haves obsidian (for example) so I am for 99% sure it won’t be able to have the rank (if u buy on bedrock) u can use it on Java

[hollow stump]

f

kk tysm

[dusty kernel]

Like before it would be terrific

[warped mirage]

Like on my opinion is having a shield nowadays so op that u can kill notch with all his develop notes

[hollow loom]

Yes shields are op but when you practice enough you get good at countering shiends

Shields*

[quick harbor]

when i vote on the site i dont get rewards... will this bug get fixed or will i lose my 700 day streak?

[worldly oyster]

700

damn

[steady storm]

jesus 700

[primal violet]

i just break em with axe and critspam with sword

but shields being op just promotes slow and boring gameplay imo

[hollow loom]

Well that means you ve practiced 1.16 shields

I personally prefer 1.16 shuelds over 1.12 shields

[primal violet]

whats the difference

[hollow loom]

Well i dont know abt that it just adds a new mechanic

[hollow loom]

Its a big difference

1.12 shields if you atack whit a sword it will reduce 80% of damege and deal kb with 1.16 shields you reduce 50% damege swords dont deal damege only axes can break ahilds and dont do kb

[hollow loom]

Shields not ahilds

[steady storm]

in 1.16 shields block 100% damage

[hollow loom]

Wait yeah 🤣

My bas

[lavish cypress]

Isn't this only on the front of the player?

[hollow loom]

Bad

[steady storm]

yeah i think its like 120 degrees infront

[hollow loom]

Yes? Thats how shields work?

[steady storm]

so u can backstab

[hollow loom]

Yeah or brak shield

Whit axe

[lavish cypress]

It wouldn't be 100% protection then

[lavish cypress]

That's longggg

[steady storm]

it blocks 100% of damage when u hit from infront

[steady storm]

if u practice it its pretty easy

[hollow loom]

Well i mean right in from of me is going to be 100% damege blocked

[lavish cypress]

Yehyeh

[primal violet]

I thought that was cubecraft specific shield mechanics

[lavish cypress]

Can u just jitter on shields to break them faster?

[steady storm]

i think so

[primal violet]

I prefer 1.12 shields then

[hollow loom]

Shields never worked all round the player

[lavish cypress]

They did on bedrock 💀💀

[steady storm]

we dont talk about bedrock lmao

[hollow loom]

Well 1.16 are more akill based but yeah everyone has an opinion

[hollow loom]

Yeah on bedrock they are just so wired not bad but not good

[lavish cypress]

Axes work on shields in bedrock since 6 months ago but other than that it's still fairly OP

[hollow loom]

????

They dont

[lavish cypress]

So are shields unmodded

[lavish cypress]

They do

[hollow loom]

I played besrock yesterday

It doesn't work

[steady storm]

what

[lavish cypress]

It does in Survival

[lavish cypress]

They're not edited? They work how it would in Survival?

[hollow loom]

What is that supposed to mean

What???????

[lavish cypress]

Weren't shields modified in cubecraft skywars?

Before

[hollow loom]

I'm confused

[steady storm]

im not sure

i dont even know how they work rn

only seen 1 person use em

[lavish cypress]

Lol

[hollow loom]

Well ok bye now

@hollow loom

[steady storm]

did they fix glowing effect lag in 1.19.4?

[primal violet]

yeah, i mean, sword pvp was hard but very efficient, now we are forced to stay in a single position and hide under shield

But thats not the biggest problem

Wtf happened to axes

like 3 hits and you're dead

[steady storm]

i mean on lucky islands 90% of people still just use sword and no shield

theyve been like that since 1.9 lol

sword combo is still better

cuz of the kb and strafing u wont get hit as much

while if youre waiting for axe to recharge, youre gonna get hit

[primal violet]

Well on skywsrs there was a lot of shield users but on 1.12 they were easy to kill

[steady storm]

just learn to stun, aka hit with an axe twice so u disable shield and knock back

[primal violet]

Now, with overpowered axes its just they close with the shield, hit you 3 times and then you dead and no combo will help

[steady storm]

in minecraft there is always a counter

[scenic bluff]

Is skyblock still in maintenance?

[stoic steppe]

no its open

ALL MY QUARTZ GENS TURNED INTO RED TERRACOTTA

[golden wave]

I wanna talk to an admin

It doesn´t let me open ticket

"Invalid words"

[stoic steppe]

It wont let me log in so I cant make a bug report

I had 98 quartz generators, no way its just all gone

[finite wagon]

my diamond gens

[golden wave]

join 1.19.3

[finite wagon]

turned into

some blue blocks

bro.

[stoic steppe]

thank goodness my diamond gens were fine

[lavish cypress]

Hi kids what's the new ffa map called

[pallid iron]

Did skyblock receive a new update since 1.19?

[stoic steppe]

the only changes appear to be visual

[pallid iron]

can you test something out for me

bonemeal water

and check if you get any seagrass

[stoic steppe]

yep

worked

[pallid iron]

1 new blok added

if you kill drowns you may get copper -> use zombie farm and let them drown

[stoic steppe]

and 98 blocks removed, my poor nether quartz generators

[pallid iron]

rip

did you make a forum post

[stoic steppe]

clever, I will try that

[stoic steppe]

I cant get my account login to work so I made a ticket

on discord

[pallid iron]

they will probably give you 98 new quarts ore or use the back-up they made before the. change to 1.19

but doez phantoms spawn?

[stoic steppe]

probably not, natural mob spawning was disabled before

[pallid iron]

let me if it works

[stoic steppe]

if phantoms are getting added, it will be end update probs

[pallid iron]

maybe you can get bees my placing flowers next to an oak or birch tree

[stoic steppe]

ill test taht too

[fathom coyote]

We’ll look into some gens not getting converted correctly! Sorry for the inconvenience

[stoic steppe]

thanks, are the gens likely to be replaced or just the bug fixed for the future?

[fathom coyote]

@stoic steppe @pallid iron @heavy shale I think you had all issues with the gens. Please email [e-mail] about the issue! They can help you further

[stoic steppe]

alright thanks

[fathom coyote]

They’ll be replaced

[stoic steppe]

awesome

[cyan torrent]

hello

I cant get into the server

It keeps telling me there’s no available lobbies

[fathom coyote]

Are you joining via play.cubecraft.net

[cyan torrent]

yeah

it was working a second ago

then I got kicked out

and I cant load back in

“Failed to log in: null”

[fathom coyote]

Please try again in a few minutes or so. I’m not at my pc so can’t help a lot more. If it stays broken, do make a ticket #💌︱team・help

Ah, that nonsense

[cyan torrent]

thanks

[fathom coyote]

Refresh your server list and try again. Works for me with that

[cyan torrent]

my friend is also getting kicked out

I refreshed my server list I got in

[fathom coyote]

I’ll forward both issues properly internally once I have the time

[fathom coyote]

Amazing to hear!

[cyan torrent]

Thank you so much for the help

[stoic steppe]

as soon as the zombies turn into drowned they get despawned

[fathom coyote]

Lol

That’s actually really funny

@graceful sun ^^

[stoic steppe]

and beehives dont appear to spawn on trees next to flowers, cant get that to work either

[graceful sun]

Oops forgot about that feature

[fathom coyote]

Goofy is Skyblock pro, they’ll have a look once they see it I’m sure hihi

[graceful sun]

Is this what you meant with properly forward internally or are you actually doing it haha

[fathom coyote]

No ahahah

I’ll do it later, I’m not home yet

You should do the Skyblock stuff tho x

[stoic steppe]

sticks come froms trees now tho thats cool

and hoes can get fortune nice

the early apple quest is better now

[graceful sun]

Fortune for trees has also been fixed

[cloud summit]

hey

is cubecraft lagging?

[heady sluice]

Yo, any ideas on why I keep getting disconnected with the reason 'Your using an unsupported Minecraft Version'? MOTD is not right too.

[fathom coyote]

Which version are you on?

You need to be on at least 1.19

[heady sluice]

Oh? I was using 1.12.

[fathom coyote]

We’ve updated our server to 1.19 yesterday! #📢︱announcements

[heady sluice]

Didn't notice, thank you.

[edgy saddle]

@stoic steppe can you try to hit a drowned and kill in ohko? If its like how i think it is (how old mob spawning on peaceful worked, they spawned for a tick then despawned) you can still kill them

Its how you can beat peaceful minecraft on any seed (before a certain version anyways)

[stoic steppe]

it despawns quick enough that a drowned never shows up

[edgy saddle]

Not even a glimpse

That's sadge

[stoic steppe]

Like I dont even see a flash of the mob, it just makes the conversion noise and the zombie dissappears

[edgy saddle]

Yeah then no, it wont work

Sadge

Just tryna think of the new mechanics

[stoic steppe]

yeh, seagrass is the only new thing found that I know of

[fathom geyser]

To be fair, I kinda think they ruined eggwars with the new update

[edgy saddle]

New furnaces

Campfires

Etc

Smooth stone

[stoic steppe]

oh yeh true

[edgy saddle]

Yeah quite a lot of QoL stuff

Hoes can get efficiency?

(Not like it matters at diamond)

[stoic steppe]

yeh

they added hoe enchants

[edgy saddle]

That's good

[stoic steppe]

fortune and silk touch as well

[edgy saddle]

Do you have any high level tool?

[stoic steppe]

I have t9 tools

[edgy saddle]

Maybe mending or something was added, and its a requirement like infinity on bow

Fyi bow needs to be level 10 to get infinity

that one is likely a stretch ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stoic steppe]

my quartz generators broke so I cant check any items yet cus not enough xp to upgrade

[edgy saddle]

yeah i read

Lets see if generated ores become their regular counter parts too

As same with mined ores that's generating

[stoic steppe]

I have a power 10 bow and it only shows infinity as unlocked

[edgy saddle]

Okay, then likely not

Unless its a 19+

But uhhh

that'll take a while for you

[stoic steppe]

yeh im far from that high a level

[edgy saddle]

Xavi can check it if he wants

Bubble elavators

[twin jasper]

Where can you see your loot points in this update?

[edgy saddle]

Somewhere in the menu : ) ||idk||

Wait @stoic steppe, boats?

If we have boats, we have a questless redstone clock

[stoic steppe]

cant craft a boat

[edgy saddle]

Sad

No free redstone clocks for us

Guess we'll stick with rails : (

But yeah, bubble elevators

[stoic steppe]

oh yeh lemme check that

[edgy saddle]

I need to check kelp spawning really quickly, cant remember if there was a way to get it via bonemeal

On the wiki

[stoic steppe]

the block menu has changed, you can buy an optimizer for 10mill

[edgy saddle]

Hmmm