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brazen fog
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Bro why does Among Slimes always crash my game

wide lotus
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rip

mental nacelle
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🪦

fleet owl
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trash update

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rip cube sadly...

wide condor
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R.I.P most java games. I still have work and go on a flight on Saturday, so fingers crossed I get the last few wins I need to get a screenshot on the td leaderboard

hollow egret
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^^

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Sorry there is no maybe

stoic crag
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let me guess why, it’s because you have like 9274928462882) wins in it

dusty nova
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Imma a barbie girl

arctic plinth
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I'm sad

hexed jay
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Is it real that cubecraft java closing?

green tusk
hexed jay
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Unm

green tusk
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Yeah they will remove a lot of games

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So enjoy them while they can be played

hexed jay
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I actually play egg and sky but why would they remove all egg wars games except 4

green tusk
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Maybe the one that gets the most players

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I don’t know

native grail
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Well fgeto just told my the news... I was gonna write on the forum but they don't care I'm not surprised since they been killing towers off for years but since it's literally the only game that I come and play I guess they have killed me off two Hurmitcurtis/misswhiskers, raccoobee catch you around cube the last 7years was fun 😊

green tusk
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Yeah some players will probably leave

hexed jay
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Dugfy

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Duffy

green tusk
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Yea?

hexed jay
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Is there a reason?

green tusk
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Hold on

green tusk
fleet owl
river aspen
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I knew java was on the decline for a while... but my god.

mental nacelle
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Fgeto didn’t believe it either 💔

mental nacelle
wide condor
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Very sad to see the Java side of Cubecraft start to undergo changes that will take away my favorite game, Tower Defense. Spent countless hours on it and have many good memories.

However, instead of just letting it happen, I at least wanted to do one last thing, and that was get on the leaderboard (thank you @mental nacelle for telling me it exists lol )

Finally did it, right before the end

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This also taught me that CubeCraft cannot keep proper track of games played haha (I was at 1114 games played when I hit 1k wins)

mental nacelle
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Yeahh games played started bugging out at a certain point

mental nacelle
spark crater
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yes

mental nacelle
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Here's what I've managed to get

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I suppose we'll see how many in the next few days but rip

wide condor
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Nice for games played

mental nacelle
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lmao

native grail
native grail
sage jackal
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two hours till among slimes is gone and gonno wait the next 2-3 weeks yet again.

native grail
fleet owl
lethal mauve
green tusk
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Let’s just say I probably won’t be on the java version as much either after they get removed

sweet wharf
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Why remove eggwars maps, people bought ranks to have everything. and every update is just a downgrade where we get less. Its good like it is now why again a downgrade? or make ranked people chose what maps open and not random. idk but this sorry Cubecraft but now you are just destroying the server yourself(again)

green tusk
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The bedrock version right now is at a better spot then java but if the goal is to grow the server having less games won’t help as more players will leave

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Overall I don’t think it’s a good decision but it’s not going to change

ashen trellis
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please dont remove minerware D:

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and td

green tusk
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Yeah they both are

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Only reason I didn’t play td much is it was to long for me

ashen trellis
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what is going to happen with the ranks? at least we will get some kind of compensation right? like money back or bedrock ranks?

green tusk
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Don’t know

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My guess is probably not though unless it closes fully they might offer something on bedrock

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Hive offered there java players who bought stuff for java there rank for free on bedrock

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(When hive closed in 2020)

sweet wharf
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bedreock is just the baby edition of java and its so sad its taking over

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If java changes

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I want my money from dia rank back

river aspen
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While it obviously sucks and I absolutely do not care for Bedrock either, getting money back isn't gonna happen not a reasonable request (unless you bought a rank in the last few months honestly, but doubt Cubecraft is gonna care).

sweet wharf
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just dont get it

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they are just destroying their own server

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all the people who bought ranks and supported by that the server cant say anything

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we dont want this update

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cube is just chosing it itserf

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just a shot in their own legg

river aspen
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Cubecraft Java is already struggling, probably has been for a long time... years ago they already did a similar downgrade to the Java server (not as severe as this, but same principle). Running a server isn't free. Through things like this they are cutting operating costs. Whether it's gonna help or make it worse in the future remains to be seen. I suspect it won't get better, we sooner see the server close.

cold oyster
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ngl someone should download the maps that are gonna be removed along with the maps of the games that are being removed..would be nice to have them always

green tusk
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I do have a feeling it will close in the future because I can’t see the server growing with the games they are keeping

cold pecan
green tusk
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More people will leave so it probably won’t even reach 1000 players after they remove them

limpid jacinth
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that is stupid I can’t believe my favorite game mode is gonna be gone for a while

worldly oyster
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then they will close the server

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they removing some games to make it seem as if they tried

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it was gonna die anyway

green tusk
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The other thing also is the games cubecraft is keeping exist on other servers already

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Don’t see why people would switch

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All the more unique games are what’s being removed

true crest
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Where else do they have eggwars

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Id like to know :3

worldly oyster
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bedwars

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same concept

toxic hornet
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hello, I don’t want to distract you, but I just read that they want to cut games on the java server and there is no Agg Wars solo, does this mean that it will be killed?

vital fractal
toxic hornet
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i mean egg wars solo will be FOREVER removed from java version on september 5th

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This is true?

vital fractal
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The plan is not to remove it permanently. The java server costs more money than that it makes, so we are removing games to make running it cheaper. We will try to bring the playercount back, and if that happens, the modes will be brought back

toxic hornet
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I've been playing cubecraft for many years and I clearly remember when Agg Wars speed was removed, and I'm worried that history is repeating itself

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anyway thanks for the info

native grail
vital fractal
limpid jacinth
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But team lucky islands is gonna be removed and I love it so much it was like the only thing I play on hereI but it’s gonna be removed for a while

toxic hornet
hybrid grove
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but it isnt playable anymore

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thats the problem

toxic hornet
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Today I'm celebrating my 1000 egg wars victory

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I didn't think this could happen

harsh kettle
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Are the ranks disapering?

cold oyster
harsh kettle
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Whats Gonny happen to the ranks

native grail
harsh kettle
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I saw sometihing wijt the Java ranks dissapearing can someone explaib

limpid jacinth
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What are you kidding me

harsh kettle
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I know why Java Cube Craft is Sting

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Dying*

valid wigeon
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I'm gonna end myself bruh tower defense and teams of 2 eggwars

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wth

harsh kettle
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Cube is dying becauese there like to many sweats playing and no beginners like to play anymore

green tusk
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Bedwars on the bigger server

green tusk
green tusk
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For example why would they switch if they already play it somewhere else

true crest
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So I can check them out

green tusk
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Hypixel/mineplex

true crest
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Thats 1.8

green tusk
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Yes

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Those are the only two other servers I know of

true crest
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Yup

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But I dont think its happening ;p

thin musk
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The idea is that by limiting our game library to those that the community play the most means that new players will have a far more pleasant experience on the server and are more likely to continue playing and rejoin in the future

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Try putting yourself in the shoes of a new player: you join the server for the first time and see a game that looks fun, you hop in it but it takes 2 minutes to start and it ends up only having a fraction of the max players it can support. Chances are that new player won't stick around all too much and will go elsewhere

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But in the situation where they join a game that is active and starts quickly, the player experience in general is far better and that player is likely to stick around quite a bit longer

native grail
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@thin musk you could have added a calling thing like other servers got for people to join empty games anyway I'm bored now of this justification it is what it is neve mind putting ourselves in the shoes of new players you won't have new player before long to worry about that issue 😊

limpid jacinth
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your not gonna get new players and your current players will quit

bleak lagoon
toxic hornet
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I'm in the top 100 agg wars players in the world and it makes me sad to see what they want to do with my game.
I'm sorry, but this can happen to absolutely any game and I sincerely want to believe that with Agg Wars the solo will remain in the form in which it is now.
Unfortunately, the completely different fact that scares me is that instead of my favorite mini-game, absolutely any game can disappear,
I believe that after the update on September 5, the fate of the server will be decided,
Unfortunately, when these games disappear, many players will leave immediately, and the online server will crash even less frequently.

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by the way
Yesterday I celebrated my 1000th victory.

green tusk
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Solos will be gone

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I don’t know the skywars maps as I don’t play much so I can’t really say what I think would be good to keep vs not

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Although I don’t think suggestions will be seen here

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yea that’s a better spot probably

rain depot
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So, cubecraft is going to update to 1.19?

severe rune
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I love minecraft ;D

worldly oyster
fleet owl
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Would be nice if they asked the community what maps are good

brazen fog
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If CubeCraft was able to manage to make the server cross platform, between both editions, that would massively fix the lack of players on the server

obtuse steeple
fickle wave
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Idc about them

honest nymph
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Sometimes I join into middle of fight (skip this waiting room). Why is that?

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Is it a bug?

unique shard
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mieszaniec2121

lilac apex
obtuse steeple
lilac apex
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X)

obtuse steeple
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tho pvp could then go crack

lilac apex
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Yeah idk how well it works, never played on a GeyserMC server

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It's probably 1.8 pvp tho

obtuse steeple
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yeh

lilac apex
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Cuz there's no way to simulate 1.9 pvp in bedrock

cinder cobalt
worldly oyster
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but its incredibly laggy and not enjoyable

lilac apex
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It was reply to Arnemis who said Java - Bedrock cross platform servers are impossible

cinder cobalt
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It is, but in its current state it's not 100% good

lilac apex
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Okay

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I didn't say that tho

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lol

cinder cobalt
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Lol

sweet wharf
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I want my rank money back

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I dont need it like that

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Cant chose things

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It all just dissapears

fiery delta
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but anyway, i think i'll post something on forums later about this because this is all too painfully familiar to me as an ex-hive java player, but i just hope this community doesn't rebel and complain to the devs until they destroy what's left of the server, and i hope the devs don't give up on java just because it's not doing well and end up becoming bedrock only (because i'm gonna be honest, bedrock just isn't the same.)

one thing the devs need to know is that it is so important to listen to the community, the people who play these games constantly. don't just focus on trying to attract new people in and change games in the hopes more new players would enjoy the game, a non-updated game is much better than a broken game. and the important thing is that new players feel welcomed into the community, and that's only going to happen when the regulars are happy with the game and genuinely enjoy what they have, instead of trying to deal with a game they used to enjoy but now only play because they have nowhere else to go.

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that said, i know halloween is not cancelled, and i've been looking forwards to ender for a whole year, so.... don't let me down? :')

limpid jacinth
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oh please Java was the original before bedrock was a thing

fiery delta
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but the fact is that bedrock is more successful

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most kids nowadays have touchscreens and consoles

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not many of them are gonna play minecraft on java

limpid jacinth
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idk why but 1.9 combat has always been the best and idk why people still hate it

obtuse steeple
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or too hard to learn

cunning hare
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how do i get cubelets

green tusk
lilac apex
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Should I get 10k duels wins achievement before it gets removed

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I need 980 more wins

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That'll take me like 18 hours

minor pier
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.

twin patrol
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Diamond axe on Java is 9 damage and critical is 13.5 damage.
Critical diamond axe gives an extra 4.5 damage.
Smite 20 does 50 extra damage on undead.
So the Smite 20 diamond axe does the total of 59 damage on hit or 63.5 damage with a Smite 20 diamond axe using critical hit.
With strength 2 active, it’ll be like 6 extra damage applied to all weapons.
Diamond axe with strength 2 active is 15 damage total and 22.5 with critical hit.
Critical hit with strength 2 diamond axe does an extra 7.5 damage.
The most powerful weapon in CubeCraft Skyblock would be an outstanding 65 damage or if you critical hit, you’ll get 72.5 damage! Super crazy on damaging!!!
Use the calculator to divide the damage values by 2 to convert them into real health like hearts.

worldly oyster
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ok

obtuse steeple
twin patrol
obtuse steeple
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And i mostly play the vanilla pvp instead of the modified pvp in cc

twin patrol
obtuse steeple
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I dont play with cc skyblock combat ok thats better

fiery delta
slender stag
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Hi

fickle wave
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hola

acoustic wigeon
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Anyone wanna play ?

trail epoch
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Java > Bedrock

hasty sage
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hi

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can anyone play

lost edge
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can I play with bedrock people if im on java

haughty glade
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Guys is cube gonna die ?

compact remnant
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Like update to 1.19 remove some gamemodes ect

haughty glade
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Lol

limpid jacinth
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i'm not staying around cause team lucky islands was my thing and now its going away now

hexed garden
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1.19 ♥ ♥ ♥

bleak pulsar
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same goes for popular gamemodes that are getting removed such as minerware, battle arena duels, tower defence, etc, removing them when games used to start during almost all the day will only force more players to leave

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the decision is a disaster, no matter what you take a look at

compact remnant
bleak pulsar
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they said exactly the same when they updated fully to 1.12.2

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new blocks, mechanics and bla bla bla

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the thing is that they have lost a very important part of its playerbase in the last year

compact remnant
bleak pulsar
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on june 2021, cubecraft used to peak at more than 5k players

bleak pulsar
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getting more blocks and stuff many players won't be able to run

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take a look at hypixel

bleak pulsar
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they use blocks as old as the universe

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but they have 60k players

compact remnant
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Tbh cubecraft just need to rebuild their java network

bleak pulsar
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exactly, they need to completely rebuild it, but it doesn't mean to destroy it completely

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they commited a huge mistake when they updated fully to 1.9 in 2016, they had to retract their decision and split up the network into 2 separate servers, the 1.8 network and the 1.9 network

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when the 1.8 network got removed cubecraft used to peak at more than 5k players

compact remnant
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Wow

bleak pulsar
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they said they were updating fully to 1.12.2 to take a step forward and bla bla again

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another disaster

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will updating to 1.19 solve nothing?

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spoiler

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no

compact remnant
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I mean they can't really stay on a very old version of Minecraft for ever

bleak pulsar
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that's exactly what the most successful servers are doing

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they support higher versions

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but their servers are not fully updated to the latest version

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this can be done on bedrock

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because it's easier to run for lower end devices and the pvp mechanics don't change

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but they lost most of their 1.8 players back in 2016 when they updated fully to 1.9 because they thought a higher version would mean more players

compact remnant
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Bedrock pvp is just spam clicking pretty simple

bleak pulsar
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yeah

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that's what people like

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1.9 pvp is more complex and I find it more interesting

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but the pvp is exactly the same on 1.19

compact remnant
bleak pulsar
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people want something that is easy to understand since the beginning, spamming is pretty simple to understand for a kid

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that's why bedrock works that good

compact remnant
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True

bleak pulsar
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it's full of colours, cool designs and lobbies, custom loot and an easy pvp mechanic

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now if you join java

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you will only find 1.9 tryhards

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you will go cry to the corner and leave

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simple

compact remnant
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Lol

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I feel cube are focusing on bedrock and not java

bleak pulsar
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yeah, I don't criticise that as it's much easier to make money there. But their decisions regarding the java network are just horrible. They have experienced in the past the consequences of taking impopular measures, that's exactly what killed it's position as the biggest or the second biggest server back in 2016

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they already have a lot of stuff to develop new games on 1.12.2, why is the change necessary?

compact remnant
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Wow

bleak pulsar
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people want to play on the lowest version possible to run the game better, if my screen freezes constantly, the game becomes unplayable

bleak pulsar
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but you are committing suicide (in a figured way) to get new blocks

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every time they decided to do something similar the result was the same

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a loss of players

compact remnant
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True

bleak pulsar
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I hope they realize this decision isn't realistic if they really want to rebuild the java network and keep it running

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if they want to kill the server and focus on bedrock which gives more money, then they are doing things right

umbral grove
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there is a staff that can tell me how to make a ticket

bleak pulsar
bleak pulsar
# compact remnant Ig

also if the update was as great as they say, they would have announced it on discord, but saying you are removing half of your games (some of them pretty popular) isn't something to announce everywhere

heavy shale
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if anyone wants join a java skyblock coop, feel free to dm! :)

umbral grove
brave walrus
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So sad to hear about the removal of games 😦

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Anyone know any other good servers with a TD gamemode?

sharp rapids
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Cubecraft had the best mini games ever. Even brought in popular streamers, Vikkstar123, PrestonPlayz and others (when they were actaully making great content, not kid based srcipts). It created the eggwars game mode which mineplex, hypixel and lifeboat copied because it was such a great idea! Now the home of MinerWare, fun little Microgames and that. The fact that the Java edition of the server might shut down because of lack of growth is sad.

green tusk
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Yeah it’s sad what’s going to happen

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Played my last few rounds of line dash today also (before the featured game npc changed) because I always liked that game

topaz briar
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well mineware is going to be removed tommorrow right?

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well mineware is going to be removed tommorrow right?

green tusk
topaz briar
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waht will happen to this challenge?

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idk, what happen, if you remove mineware, and i have this challenge? idk

green tusk
topaz briar
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oh ok

pure vessel
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so long lucky islands

topaz briar
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yea sad 😦

hollow egret
lethal mauve
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welp, goodbye cubecraft ig, the games might be removed but not the memories. adios

lethal mauve
mental nacelle
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Yeah I tried looking around but none really compare 😔

hollow egret
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Its so sad

brave walrus
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I'm quite surprised they've gone ahead with it with the amount of disappointment..
They're worried about low online counts but then remove the games that the people log on for 😂😂

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Counter intuitive

mental nacelle
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Not only that, I’ve seen each community of the games that cube is retaining, complaining about their choice of solo/team and maps

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Lucky Islands is more of a team game, people like duo egg/lucky, and team SkyWars

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So that’s unfortunate to see

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I personally have never been a PVP player much, so it’s sad to see Cube getting rid of the only non PVP games they had to set them aside

brave walrus
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When are they getting removed, exactly?

proper radish
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It’s been almost 2 weeks I am back to playing in CubeCraft after leaving for a while, now I am curious…what’s going on ? Wdym guys by them removing games? When and why? What’s going on
can someone please explain?

mental nacelle
river aspen
rocky mason
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They could have shortened the timer (to start a game) to ½ or a ⅓, if they were worried about non-starting games.
You could argue with "playing games with just a few people isn't fun" but some games are, such as Minerware for example, which pretty popular.
For Tower Defence you also don't need many, if teams are balanced.

Plus, I read somewhere, that reducing maps, won't reduce the costs of running the Java Network.

rocky mason
hybrid grove
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that isnt the same in other games like egg and sky

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you need more ppl for that

rocky mason
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My point is about Minerware and Tower Defence at the moment

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I understand removing team sw

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It is dead

rocky mason
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Except a few micro games in minerware but still, there are tons of non-PvP microgames where you can get points

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I don't think, going full on ome method is the solution.

I think it's better to place your bet on different solution/methods, to reduce the chance of failing.
More methods doesn't mean that failure will be 0% but it will be reduced.

Betting on only one method can be a very risky gamble, as in this case for example.

hybrid grove
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Like what kinda different solution/methods, its easy to say you dont agree

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but do you have a better solution?

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cubecraft is dying, without the changes

rocky mason
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It would be a combination of several methods.

  1. Remove the really really dead games.
    (Team SkyWars (I don't know the situation about other games)

  2. Lower the starting timer to ½ games that aren't dead or something like that.
    (Minerware, Tower Defence and featured games like Amomg Slimes for example).

  3. Lower the total player count for certain maps but keep a variety of them.
    Cube is already doing that partly in Team Egg Wars but they are only keeping 4er Maps.
    I see no problem in keeping 3er or 2er maps, since 4er Maps can start, then surely 3er and duos can too, since they usually need less players.
    Just remove the large maps.

rocky mason
vital fractal
brave walrus
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Number one solution would be to hire some devs to recreate the original games in bedrock????

mental nacelle
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The games have players actively trying to join. Cubes game sorting system is bugged and a lot of games at night are delayed due to lobbies being closed.

brave walrus
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Surely???

rocky mason
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Just lower the countdown

brave walrus
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Obviously easier said than done but cutting off lots of players for no reason makes no sense to me

dapper cosmos
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what is the exact reason for TD removal?

mental nacelle
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TD used to start under 4 players if someone left the game, now it won’t, things like that affect play time

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“Inactive” as it had more players during egg wars yesterday

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🤷🏻‍♀️

brave walrus
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Maybe if TD was updated more than once a year it would have even more people

mental nacelle
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Or if the update they implemented before (which was given as a “we have more in store”) wasn’t ridden with bugs either

rocky mason
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They wouldn't update TD anyway, since it was Java-only

mental nacelle
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Bugs they still have yet to address

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Yup

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Cross platform Java > bedrock is the priority for games

brave walrus
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They're a network with over 20k users (from what I saw earlier) how hard is it to find a dev to recreate it?

mental nacelle
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It isn’t, they just choose to main PVP because that’s the mainstream mini game set up

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Sad to see such a unique and loved game be thrown out

brave walrus
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If they actually announced properly that it was being removed they would've seen how popular it was

rocky mason
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Honestly, the moment cubecraft bedrock reached for the first time 20k players, I knew the entire head-staff would put it's focus onto Bedrock and regard Java as a secondary thing, as long as it works

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A year ago, they have stated that they would update to 1.12, to add new great features but I haven't seen so many, apart Seasonal Egg Wars or the one update in FFA

proper radish
brave walrus
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Nah I understand the focus on bedrock

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I just think killing a game before porting it over, when there is still a decently sized fanbase (that would only grow on bedrock) is a stupid move

rocky mason
proper radish
brave walrus
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I'd love to know who actually made this decision

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I hope there was a vote

rocky mason
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Similar to the 1.12 update and the removal of 1.8

bronze wagon
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:(

brave walrus
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When are the games being removed?

rocky mason
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2 PM Central European Time

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14:00

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in 1 hour and 40 minutes

cinder mirage
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So sad about this. Minerware always starts quick. No reason to remove it. And why only 4 player maps in eggwars? This will be so boring now. I use to live in eggwars. And the most epic maps will be gone. I don't think cubecraft will survive this modification.

brave walrus
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It won't and I think that's their plan tbh

mental nacelle
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Java Changes : <t:1662379200:R> <t:1662379200>

brave walrus
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1PM BST?

mental nacelle
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Mhm

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That should be in your own time

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Thank you for the memories CubeCraft, they were amazing while they lasted

brave walrus
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🥺

mental nacelle
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ofc the one with Jack as well

brave walrus
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blockwars core - 1 player

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lol

mental nacelle
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TD - 46

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😔

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TD ahead of SkyWars atm

granite compass
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As a developer, I'm actually excited to update our network to 1.19, fixing many bugs and allowing future development to be done faster and better.

mental nacelle
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As a player, it's an emotional morning losing the game you've cherished for years

brave walrus
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I completely support the focus on Bedrock, I logged on for the first time today and the lobby is amazing! I just hope someone can figure out a way to create Tower Defence on Bedrock.

mental nacelle
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Seeing the attention TD has been given already, it's hard to have hope it could make a comeback as well

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TD on Bedrock would be superb; I just hate to see it be so neglected for the past year plus. I'm sure it's more complicated coding but seeing waves of bugs be fixed/created/fixed again for other games is discouraging.

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I hope to find a game or server that gives that same great mix of community/skill in the future

brave walrus
#

If this change isn't about saving money like has been said on the forum, I hope to see the Java version TD made open source if CubeCraft are 100% not bringing it back.

mental nacelle
#

I would hope to see such a thing if it's decided they will not be using it ever in the future

fleet owl
#

Td for Bedrock is one of those things the community wants badly but the staff are to blind to see

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Prob neglect

mental nacelle
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I could see it being quite popular on bedrock; there aren't other gamemodes like it

brave walrus
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0

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Which is why I'm struggling to understand it

mental nacelle
#

Id assume none of those big bedrock servers have other games besides typical arcade style mini games/PVP copy pastes

brave walrus
#

They're sat on a goldmine but throwing it away 😂

fleet owl
#

It will be, look at how popular the game bloons tower defense is

mental nacelle
#

Bloons pops off

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With dedicated updates and new content, it could be a great contender for the top games played

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and also a tutorial that isn't terrible

bronze wagon
#

^^^

mental nacelle
#

Cube really dropped the ball on the TD tutorial and anyone who has played more than 3 games would agree

fleet owl
#

Balance changes once every 2 months shouldnt be to hard, like a lot of mobile games do to keep their game interesting

granite compass
#

It's hard to find the words to respond with because I understand how you feel. Being able to focus on updating the server will massively improve the network for everyone. There's an FAQ on the forum post, I suggest giving that a read.

mental nacelle
#

What's sad is, I'd expect a response to b, "make a suggestion!" We have, we were told no. "Take a vote for what the community wants!" We did, we were told it was too time consuming

brave walrus
#

blink twice if tower defence is coming back

mental nacelle
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I read it multiple times

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I understand you may feel it'll improve the network for everyone, but not every single Java member I've spoken to in the last 5 days shares the same sentiment.

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Actually, I have yet to find even 1 that supports this

bronze wagon
#

I understand the update is to improve the network + expand the future playerbase, but killing off the majority of the current playerbase doesn't seem like a wise decision

mental nacelle
#

Community engagement is important, but I guess we learned Cube didn't care about that with the fall of the ECO program

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Ruin dedicated OG community < Find a few new members who probably won't stick around because the games are identical to every other PVP

fleet owl
mental nacelle
#

That's just sad really

fleet owl
#

*active in game on cube

rocky mason
#

It really feels like it is the final nail into the coffin but I also could be very wrong on that

bronze wagon
#

That being said, I appreciate all the hard work you've put into this server, driima. Thank you for trying and handling all this backlash. Nothing against you, but I personally don't support this decision

mental nacelle
#

I hope 1.19 is great for the server, I just don't think it'll contain anything for me or the fellow community members who are disheartened

brave walrus
#

Oh I am absolutely not trying to be disrespectful either, just really trying to understand why this was seen as the correct move.

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Most of the TD players I've spoken to only play TD so it's not going to change waiting times very much.

#

Just a waste of money for us and less players for CubeCraft 😭

mental nacelle
#

Yeah unfortunately most TD players such as myself are dedicated to TD (and the occasional MinerWare game... but rip)

rocky mason
#

I wonder if they have checked who plays what game

brave walrus
#

I doubt they've done much research as they only gave 4 days notice.

mental nacelle
#

Most players I ran into found out about it from me-

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in the last hours

fleet owl
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Same

mental nacelle
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That's quite sad

brave walrus
#

I was telling everyone I could today when I found out

mental nacelle
#

They're confused and probably think I'm trolling

brave walrus
#

😂

fleet owl
#

Made a auto msg that informed the ppl when ever a towerdefence game started xd

brave walrus
#

Even told my brother and he hopped on for one last game with me

mental nacelle
#

Yeah I was going to do that xD

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"TD Countdown: X"

fleet owl
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Dunno why they didnt announce it

rocky mason
#

most people i talked to, were surprised to and didn't believe me at first

mental nacelle
#

Yeah ran into Felix Chiu hes got 3k or something and he didnt find out until 2 hours ago

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So people like that didn't get any time to savor it

fleet owl
#

Lol told bee_z yesterday xd

rocky mason
#

the thing is, most people ignore the update book, including myself

mental nacelle
#

I messaged Bee about it when it happened but I think they were afk then logged

fleet owl
#

Ah

mental nacelle
#

rip Bees grinding

fleet owl
#

Yep ;/

mental nacelle
#

rip all of our grinding

fleet owl
#

Be s okay with it tho

mental nacelle
#

all the knowledge, testing

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yeahh

fleet owl
#

Pfff the testing!!!!!

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Way to much hours

mental nacelle
#

^

fleet owl
#

All the files and graphs pfffff

brave walrus
#

I'm getting microsoft vibes with forcing the account banning system

mental nacelle
#

So many spreadsheets

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Useless spreadsheets

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:(

fleet owl
#

Did u ever find the breaking point of path 2 poison being usefull?

mental nacelle
#

I was explaining towers and AoE vs single target earlier, and I stopped myself thinking "theres no point.."

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well as far as Dubbz was able to test, path 1 and path 2 do indeed stack, not just 1 path 2 doing damage

granite compass
#

I understand. All I can say is being able to update the network to 1.19 opens up a huge opportunity for improving the current games, bringing back removed games, and making brand new games that hopefully everyone will love. I'm certainly very excited to do that. I don't need to be here explaining any of this, but I wanted to. Anyway, back to bug fixes! 🐛 🔧

mental nacelle
#

Thank you driima, I hope it's smooth sailing for you guys and you're able to accomplish your goals

bronze wagon
#

Thank you for giving us your time. We wish you the best <3

mental nacelle
#

Do we get maintenance time or just a super sudden shift

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lol

fleet owl
#

Ice damage Def out damages all towers at a certain amount

mental nacelle
#

Yeah poison 2 fire rate isnt great too

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We couldnt test a whole bunch into it

brave walrus
#

I hope that's the case 😭

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I'll take it with a pinch of salt

mental nacelle
#

I won't stay hopeful so I don't let myself down if it makes no comeback

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"New Update! We re-added every game but TD"

fleet owl
#

It prob wont, or they would have to fully remake it since the code was different of what they were using and the ppl who used it left. (Smth like that not sure)

bronze wagon
#

That would be so sad that it's hilarious

mental nacelle
#

Yeah pretty much

mental nacelle
#

TD Community : What's new

brave walrus
#

Java and C++ are very different but it's still very much possible

mental nacelle
#

Would just take dedication to the task I'd assume

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I know they have their hands full as it is despite all the update stuff

brave walrus
#

Advancius Network has tower defence but it's a 2/10 compared to cubecraft lol

mental nacelle
#

Thats sad

#

I heard Tower Wars over at hype was pretty bad too

fleet owl
#

Another server with td?? 😮

mental nacelle
#

theres a few

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I found one that was fr trash

brave walrus
#

they're all terrible though

fleet owl
#

Oh

brave walrus
#

it's player vs waves

mental nacelle
#

I mean we're also biased

brave walrus
#

Survival mode

mental nacelle
#

Yeah thats how the one I found was

river aspen
#

Hypixel has something like it to (like a huge 1v1v1v1 TD), but I never found it as much fun as TD on Cube. Not sure if they still have that mode though

bronze wagon
#

They got rid of it cause it wasn't popular

mental nacelle
#

and once the leather zombies ran past my plethora of turrets (because there was only 1 tower) I was like...nope

#

Yeah

mental nacelle
bronze wagon
#

Got some hypixel tower wars players onto Cube a while back and they liked Cube's version better.

mental nacelle
#

Yeah GusTech joined CubeCraft specifically because Tower Wars ended, got a rank and everything

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and now, rip

brave walrus
#

If you wanna play something that's the exact same way as CubeCraft TD check out the game called CreepTD

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it's free

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not minecraft though

hexed jay
#

Wheb the games are getting deleted?

brave walrus
#

55 mins

mental nacelle
#

<t:1662379200:R> <t:1662379200>

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Countdown in your timezone

brave walrus
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lol

mental nacelle
#

rip yeah asakura is a regular TD player

brave walrus
#

they're devastated

rocky mason
#

They should have announced it in the games itself.
Whenever someone joined one of the games that are going to removed.
They should have gotten a message such as,

"This game is going to be removed on Monday, the 5th September at 1PM BTS"

mental nacelle
#

It’s hard to even bring myself to play another game now

rocky mason
mental nacelle
#

They didn’t even announce it here in the server

rocky mason
#

They already got the plugins for that, so I see no problem for doing that

rocky mason
#

however, only a few people check disc frequently

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like a handful

mental nacelle
#

Yeah I was pinged about it by others

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Just seems they could’ve avoided a little more miscommunication with 1 message here/in game

#

They added it to the update book thing but let’s be honest, everyone ESCs that

rocky mason
#

The way I see it, most people who only play non-PvP games on cube, will quit

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They may return, if cube decides to add them back in 1.19 or something

mental nacelle
#

Yeah unfortunately, a lot of non PVPers found a place in CC that they’ve lost

rocky mason
#

It's not the first time that cube does something radical like this

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a year ago, they decided on removing the 1.8 Network

brave walrus
#

Did that remove any games though?

rocky mason
#

10% of the Java community were playing on 1.8

rocky mason
mental nacelle
#

Yeah I remember everyone being upset about PVP shifting

rocky mason
#

When they removed the 1.8 Network, Cube peaked around 6k players but at the same time, Hyp was down for like a week

mental nacelle
#

YEAH I remember the hyp influx of players

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Trying to fulfill their bedwars cravings

brave walrus
#

I have nowhere to go for my tower defence cravings 😦

rocky mason
#

It was a missed opportunity.
Gaining some players from hyp

mental nacelle
#

Bloons and games like that are fun but it’s not the same-

worldly oyster
#

java cubecraft probably gonna die even more after mmc and tubbos server fully release

rocky mason
#

19 minutes until Java game modes go brrrr

brave walrus
#

will entering the games be disabled or the whole server

#

I just joined a game will I be able to finish it lol

rocky mason
#

might be delayed

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when they removed 1.8

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it took a while

#

It seems like it will take a while

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like 15 to 30 minutes

brave walrus
#

or hopefully they just don't do it 😇

rocky mason
#

imagine if it was a large prank to get players online, lol

mental nacelle
#

If only ✨

brave walrus
#

Aubrey are you still online?

mental nacelle
#

Aubrey D;

brave walrus
#

omg

mental nacelle
#

I’m in lobby atm

brave walrus
#

Clearly i'm dyslexic jesus

#

party invite me again

mental nacelle
#

Lmao dw

hollow egret
mental nacelle
#

Yeah I’ll teach u

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We can play minerware until then

#

Or some featured games

rocky mason
#

RIP Games

worldly oyster
#

gg

mental nacelle
#

gg

rocky mason
#

Not all lobbies are updated

#

some lobbies still got minerware, towerdefence and etc

green tusk
#

yeah it will all be updated soon probably

rocky mason
#

Asia Lobby 1 isn't updated yet

brave walrus
#

And this is only one lobby

hollow egret
proper radish
#

RIP CUBECRAFT

lethal mauve
hollow egret
#

I think you can just download them

woven bay
#

does the games come back

#

?

lethal mauve
#

they said that its always possible that they ger re-added

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but knowing them that will never happen

brave walrus
#

The amount of donor ranks on atm who are complaining

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not goooood

rocky mason
brave walrus
#

for sure

rocky mason
#

People moved to Asia lobby for the games

brave walrus
#

I did too

woven bay
#

i bought gold 2 weeks ago bc i can vote for tower defence i want my monney back

lethal mauve
woven bay
#

cubecraft pls explain

lethal mauve
#

y know cube's staff sux at explaining

woven bay
#

i think cubecraft wil lose a lot of players

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and wil become a dead server

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the games that you can play now can u play on a lot defferent servers

brave walrus
#

They definitely need to write a better forum post at the very least, the current one is terrible

lethal mauve
#

yep

woven bay
#

the unique games are gonne

hybrid grove
woven bay
#

stil 1k players

hybrid grove
#

1k is dead…

lethal mauve
woven bay
#

now it gets 300 or les

brave walrus
#

1k is better than 500

lethal mauve
#

that thing was awful and wasnt even playtested

hybrid grove
lethal mauve
#

also even if I loved td it felt like a beta version game lol

hybrid grove
#

at leas they dont remove it like hive✋

brave walrus
#

the last 6 people in tower defence

lethal mauve
lethal mauve
brave walrus
#

The big update will just be removing more games x

hybrid grove
#

no1 says you have to be hyped, im saying it was gonna happen soon or later

lethal mauve
#

prob adding new bugs, I mean features

woven bay
#

i hope cube bring it back

mental nacelle
#

We all hope

brave walrus
#

And it's over 😦

mental nacelle
#

Lobby looking like staff help with people complaining about TD

brave walrus
#

Well someone let me know when/if TD returns i'll stay in this discord till the end of the year 😂

lime sphinx
#

Since when is Tower Defence gone?

green tusk
#

Since today

lime sphinx
#

😭 favourite game

old fiber
#

rip

shut parcel
#

rip

mental nacelle
#

rip

rocky mason
#

rip

limpid jacinth
#

rip

wide condor
#

rip

proper radish
#

rip

violet umbra
#

Rip

hollow egret
#

HELLO?

hollow egret
green tusk
#

Yes

hollow egret
#

when will it back please

#

will it come back?

#

rip

green tusk
lethal mauve
hollow egret
#

i want my points back...

bleak pulsar
cinder mirage
#

Rip CubeCraft Java

dapper cosmos
#

rip

true crest
#

rip

fleet owl
#

Rip

glossy kestrel
#

Hola

lethal mauve
normal warren
#

i made a pvp montage, if you wanna bother wasting 2,5 mins. Premiere at 19:00 https://youtu.be/0tR2JzebLcE

Hey, I am BearMakeCqmboz also known as xLqgendOfBearz. I made this montage as a final tribute to cubecraft since they have announced to shut down my main games (Duels and Eggwars) I have been playing for 7+ years and can consider myself a OG Cubecraft player. In that time i have met a ton of wonderfull people, and i want to thank all of them for...

▶ Play video
bleak pulsar
fiery delta
# hybrid grove 1k is dead…

this is the problem lol, 1k is actually pretty good considering. the problem is that there's a monopoly in the minecraft java server space. but compared to a lot of other servers 1k is very strong and hard to keep, and stuff like this might chase players away

fiery delta
normal warren
normal warren
hybrid grove
#

they didnt even try to keep the server alive, wdym?

shut parcel
#

I think the problem is that cubecraft is 1.9 PvP server

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I mean in Bedrock and 1.8 PvP u can spam

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And that makes it easier

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When in Java the PvP is harder

hollow egret
fiery delta
fiery delta
fiery delta
fiery delta
#

if anyone wants to read my opinions on this, other than the random posts i've made around the forum lately there's this. https://www.cubecraft.net/threads/an-appeal-to-an-endangered-community-dont-make-the-same-mistakes-we-did.321249/

#

if any mod wants to take that message down you should consider reading the forum post first :> it's not just anger fluff

cold oyster
mossy oriole
#

im so sad we need more people for the server

fiery delta
#

i think we also need to consider that some people would also be growing up and moving on with their lives, so honestly minecraft java may be on its last legs.

#

once we're all like 18-21ish a lot of us aren't gonna have time to be playing and grinding nonstop

tepid flare
#

Why have all the games on cubecraft disappeared???

tepid flare
mental nacelle
#

As of September 5th, Java will only consist of the following library of games:
Solo SkyWars
Solo Lucky Islands
Teams of 4 EggWars
Free for All
Skyblock
Parkour

#

Yeah sadly

tepid flare
#

They literally kill their own server by doing this

mental nacelle
#

I’ll link the thread

mental nacelle
#

Explanations here

tepid flare
#

Thank you, I'll read it

pallid iron
fleet owl
tepid flare
mental nacelle
#

Sadly that's how a large consensus of the java community feels currently

mental nacelle
cinder timber
#

if were doing a french revolution i want to be robespierre

limpid jacinth
#

they had a lot of players

hollow egret
#

Anyone wanna play some TD

#

i need help

hazy wave
gilded talon
#

what happened here?

#

why are half of the games gone

hazy wave
gilded talon
#

oh

#

ok

#

oh :(

#

thats really sad

#

rip minewere

hollow egret
#

and ppl can join

hazy wave
#

😂

icy brook
#

This server is dying

#

they took a lot away too quick

hollow egret
#

Then we should be the first people to give it first aid

rocky mason
#

must be a shock for those, who haven't heard about the announcement

green tusk
#

Plus it wasn’t well announced

rocky mason
#

The 1.12 Update was well announced (2 months prior to it) and it was mostly seen as a positive thing, except by the 1.8 community, because it came at the cost of them,
despite them making up 10% or something of the Java Community.

The Update to 1.19 was announced like 5 days ago but it is seen really mixed, because it also removed many communities, I don't know how many to be exactly but if I had to take a guess, quite some.

#

if you want to read that

mental nacelle
lethal mauve
lethal mauve
bleak pulsar
#

true

sullen thunder
mystic python
lunar fractal
#

ngl only used this server for TD, upsetting because i liked it but yknow

lethal mauve
pallid iron
# rocky mason The 1.12 Update was well announced (2 months prior to it) and it was mostly seen...
wraith ingot
#

Hello Java Community

#

💀

hazy wave
#

Hey

spark crater
#

cube Java community now:

gentle kayak
#

How do I link my bedrock account?

rocky mason
rocky mason
haughty glade
#

Dann

#

Damn

#

I’ll miss the good old days

molten temple
#

no duals no teams ?

#

only FFA

rocky mason
#

It got removed.

Tower Defence, Minerware, Team Lucky Islands, Team Sky Wars, Block Wars Games, Duels, Solo Egg Wars got removed

#

The only games that remain are

rocky mason
pallid iron
limpid jacinth
#

Ive done YouTube streams on Team Lucky Islands and I’m not a fan of solo it’s not the same anymore

river aspen
#

Going back to 1.8 pvp has reminded me why I switched to Cubecraft years ago when Hypixel stayed on 1.8 😭

low crescent
#

rip to my embarrassing number of hours on tower defense

mental nacelle
#

^ 57 days of gameplay wasted

dreamy mica
#

almost had all achievements :(

mental nacelle
#

I just needed 10k wins ;-;

#

had nearly 3 million mobs killed, 2 million sent

#

Via buttmaster27 on the forums

mental nacelle
#

cube killed my td dreams fr

mental nacelle
#

well thats a first in a long time

lean bolt
mental nacelle
#

It wasn’t loaded in but /fl again and no one’s on out of 124 people 🤷🏻‍♀️

hollow egret
rocky mason
rocky mason
# hollow egret

you could do the same thing but the guy suggests "remove games" and instead of getting kicked, he becomes "employee of the month"

#

and I would change "reviving" part to "prevent the server from dying"

hollow egret
haughty glade
#

Y2

rocky mason
haughty glade
#

Solo egg wars duels mineware also team sky

rocky mason
#

rip

hollow egret
#

I KNOW THIS IS NOT FUNNY IT'S JUST ACCURATE 😘😘😘

rocky mason
#

I wouldn't call it an update, because the real update will be in 3 to 4 months

#

what cube had yesterday, was a downgrade

hollow egret
#

Theres always ppl after a couple secs "great update i've been playing it all day"

#

even though it was released a sec ago

rocky mason
#

oh lol

#

ngl, this channel is now used to roast the update or make jokes of it one way or another

hollow egret
mental nacelle
#

Lmao

#

Literally the only 2 games I played 🗿

bright gulch
#

They removed games??

#

Lmao

rocky mason
#

Tower Defence, Minerware, Team Lucky Islands, Team Sky Wars, Block Wars Games, Duels, Solo Egg Wars got removed

#

Only thing that remains, is

rocky mason
bright gulch
#

What an L

bright gulch
#

Doubt they’ll give people money back for ranks n other things

rocky mason
#

They won't

#

it was stated

#

gimme a moment, I will upload the screenshot

bright gulch
#

Not surprised Java is almost dead tho

#

Community wasn’t listened to enough imo

rocky mason
rocky mason
bright gulch
#

2016 cube was the best

#

Last 2 years it’s got worse

#

I quit at a good time before the bad FFA update and now this

#

I didn’t play Tower Defence for years but many memories there so sad to see it go xd

green tusk
#

I didn’t play tower defense much ever but based on the reaction I saw in game that’s one a lot of people kept asking about

#

It did seem active enough that they could have kept it

bright gulch
#

The decision making hasn’t been great all around lately

green tusk
#

It also wasn’t announced well

bright gulch
#

Idk most of what’s been happening tho apart from the major changes

bright gulch
green tusk
#

Yep

#

I also think they used that update book thing ingame that most people don’t look at

#

But not on discord

bright gulch
#

rip

green tusk
#

Some also wanted it to be announced earlier then a few days before it would happen

bright gulch
#

Java mods will have almost nothing to do soon

green tusk
#

Now it’s just what they do when they update the server in four months

bright gulch
#

They’re adding new games or?

green tusk
#

Don’t know

bright gulch
#

Ah

green tusk
bright gulch
#

Player count will be like 50 by then

green tusk
#

It will probably get lower in the future still above 1000 for now

bright gulch
#

What’s the peak player count roughly?

green tusk
#

1,307 was the peak in the last 24 hours

bright gulch
#

Thats so bad

#

I’m sure I saw it at 4-5k even less than 2 years ago

green tusk
#

Player count did increase a lot last year (I think it was) when hypixel was down for a week or so

#

And not big anymore but when hypixel went down then so did mineplex which left cubecraft as the last big/more known minigame server that was working

bright gulch
#

I don’t think there’s any more decent 1.9 servers

#

Apart from some smaller pvp servers that are competitive

#

Not enjoyable for a large amount of players

green tusk
#

Speaking of mineplex that’s actually worse then cube

bright gulch
#

Java as a whole is dying

#

Some servers faster than others

green tusk
#

Yeah it is

bright gulch
#

Idc what people say but Java is just so much better than bedrock

limpid jacinth
#

Y’all just ruined everything and this was the only 1.9 pvp server stupid 1.8

bright gulch
#

Only problem is it’s less accessible

green tusk
#

Only reason I got bedrock was before I had my own pc plus my friends don’t have java

#

They all got bedrock so

bright gulch
#

When they gave Java for free to people who had bedrock was probably because it was clear Java was dying

bright gulch
green tusk
#

I still remember the first server I joined which was hive on java

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Don’t remember when I just remember that being the first java server i joined

bright gulch
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I think the first server I joined was hypixel

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In 2015

obtuse steeple
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And i play on them and it quite fun if good ngl

rocky mason
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It's just most of the time a FFA copy

pallid iron
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Bruh no java changelogs

mental nacelle
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Yikes

rocky mason
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They also removed some FFA maps and it was not even mentioned

rocky mason
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Classic, Space and Flowers

bright gulch
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WHAT

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no

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Classic was the best

rocky mason
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Ngl, Classic was a good map for PvPing, because it was flat

bright gulch
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And the wings maps… bruh

rocky mason
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wing maps were fun

bright gulch
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I’m def not returning to cube then ever

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Didn’t rly plan to anyway

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But this just sucks because those maps were great

rocky mason
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I wondering why the removal of those maps wasn't announced

bright gulch
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Classic was one of the most popular maps

rocky mason
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yeah

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it was removed because it was old

bright gulch
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That’s dumb

rocky mason
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however, just because something is old, it is not a reason to remove it

bright gulch
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Fr

rocky mason
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and many people feel nostalgic about classic

bright gulch
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The perfect FFA was before all these trash updates

rocky mason
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FFA in 2016 was really great

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no clans

bright gulch
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I haven’t played the most recent update with the beach map and regeneration but I was always against regen being added

bright gulch
rocky mason
bright gulch
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Well I wasted 53 days of my life on FFA which is more sad

bright gulch
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Lmao

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Makes 2v1s harder

rocky mason
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yeah, then you get cleaned

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yeah

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also shoppers get hp back whenever they make a kill

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but shopped equipment has now durability

bright gulch
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Getting 100 killstreaks used to be casual for me, if people aren’t able to get out of a 2v1, win it etc then just get better

bright gulch
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Shop was always fun

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Just to chill

rocky mason
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shopping also got much cheaper

bright gulch
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Huh

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It was already very cheap

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Did they change the gear?

rocky mason
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you can already buy armour piece for 10 points or something

bright gulch
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Bruh

rocky mason
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nah, gear is mostly the same I think

bright gulch
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Prot 2 dia?

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Weird

rocky mason
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Prot 2 dia is 10 points

bright gulch
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That’s way too cheap

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It was before as well

rocky mason
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because of that

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the amount of shoppers has increased

bright gulch
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None of the staff know anything about FFA

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It was best before any updates

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Or changes

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And the OG maps were the best

rocky mason
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I remember how they nerfed wizard before the 1.12 update it made wizard even more op with pot refill

bright gulch
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Yeah

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I liked it when you could take yourself out with potions

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So no one would ever kill me

rocky mason
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yeah

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I often did /kill after I ran out of pots

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I liked that more

bright gulch
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Even though I don’t play anymore it’s still sad to see such a good game fall off

rocky mason
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legit half of my deaths in stats are from /kill in FFA

bright gulch
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And maps like classic being removed

rocky mason
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yeah

bright gulch
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113k kills I believe

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Don’t remember exact

rocky mason
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I don't have many kills, just 55k

bright gulch
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Not bad tho

rocky mason
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and somewhere around 20k deaths

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or 25k

bright gulch
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But I don’t wanna know how far behind my leaderboard spot has gone lmao

rocky mason
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I think 1st spot is on 200k kills

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which is insane

bright gulch
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Not like it matters since cube Java will prob be shut down at some point

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230k

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Was a couple months ago

rocky mason
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not sure if it changed much

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since the person was barely playing

bright gulch
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He stopped playing over a year ago

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He played throughout lockdown like crazy

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24/7

rocky mason
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Happens when the entire population is trapped inside their apartments or homes

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you got nothing else to do

bright gulch
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Yea

rocky mason
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good thing that we have nowadays technology, which allows us to do stuff such as streaming or gaming

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imagine if it was the 1960s

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only thing you could do was watching TV or reading books

bright gulch
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Everyone I played with quit in late 2020 so I’d been playing on my own for a long time mostly

bright gulch
rocky mason
rocky mason
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I think the decline in Java players is partly because the players got old and are busy with a job or something else

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some might even have by now their own families with children

bright gulch
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True

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Haha

rocky mason
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Bedrock has a younger audience

bright gulch
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Most younger players are on bedrock

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Yeah

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I don’t see Java surviving long

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Maybe regretting spending hundreds on the game now

rocky mason
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and the colourful features on Bedrock atracts children

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I don't think Java will die, only mini game wise with the exception of hypixel

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however, Java has an advantage over Bedrock

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Modding

bright gulch
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Player count will be very low

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Ig

rocky mason
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You can have mods in Java

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which can change your game greatly

bright gulch
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1.9 pvp so much better

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Never seen the fun in spam clicking people

rocky mason
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I find it odd that people still stick to 1.8, after 6 years

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I used to play 1.8 PvP for a while but I always mained 1.9

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To be honest, 1.9 gave me the chance to try out PvP since everyone started from a new clean slate

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and you were less likely to meet try-harders

bright gulch
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True

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All of the newer players are annoying

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Gets more and more toxic

rocky mason
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yeah, especially in FFA

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since they come in wizard kit but the thing is, they mostly run and throw pots at you

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I really don't like it, when people run away from a fight which they have started

bright gulch
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I got many people searching up my discord to trash talk me xd

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On this disc

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Still got clips on this guy who I killed 7-8 times in one life

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He was very mad

rocky mason
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lol

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People shouldn't play competitive if they get mad over a lose/death, it's bad for their own health to get frequently mad and stressed

bright gulch
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Like this guy

rocky mason
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lol

bright gulch
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Some people can’t handle the game

rocky mason
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teaming isn't against the rules and most people who complain about teamers, are teamers

bright gulch
rocky mason
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yeah

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honestly, if you are teamer, then you shouldn't complain when a team is killing you

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but people often complain

bright gulch
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Most clan members disliked me

rocky mason
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I never joined a clan, since I saw no fun in joining a clan fight

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I rather do something more fun

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but when I actually used to be average-good in PvP in 2018, a group of players from America focused me

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they once asked me for 1vs1, I agreed