Grazing and browsing behavior as an way to have full food source in sandbox mode

[lucid pawn]

Devs please consider add grazing behavior in matter of food source in sandbox please. I'm aware the team currently has some doubts in this addition. Speaking for myself and other players, we would love to have full natural habitats where herbivore dinosaurs will not need any artificial feeder in sandbox mode. I swear, please let the herbivore dinosaurs gain food from enviromment plants in SANDBOX mode, please! Please make this optional for us players, please reconsider this feature! 🙏🏼

Grazing and browsing behavior as an way to have full food source in sandbox mode

[jagged forge]

I have a feeling the limitation is more of a technical one, rather than them simply choosing not to add it

[lucid pawn]

And if they add an option to turn off only herbivore nutrition needs but they still eat from enviromment plants (behavior)? Would work?

[jagged forge]

I mean it would “work” in the sense that you wouldn’t need feeders. Would be kind of immersion breaking if animals just didn’t have to eat tho

[lucid pawn]

Cool! If they still can eat in matter of behavior, it's fine! I prefer natural enclosures

[silent shuttle]

This should already be the case

Pretty sure it was added in like Update 15

[jagged forge]

You can turn off all animal needs but not specifically herbivore hunger, iirc

[silent shuttle]

If you turn off hunger it turns off all hunger

If herbivores are starving its almost certainly a glitch and I would report to the bug forums as such

[jagged forge]

You’re missing the point. The whole point of the suggestion is so that you can create ecosystems without needing to place herbivore feeders. Carnivore hunger and thirst in general don’t need to be turned off which is the reason for wanting a herbivore specific toggle

[silent shuttle]

That's not what the suggestion is asking for

What the suggestion is asking for is already in the game

[jagged forge]

Not the original post, but the messages that were referring to a toggle were

[silent shuttle]

Ok and I wasn't responding to those

[jagged forge]

Then why were you talking about a toggle to begin with

[jagged forge]

And it’s not. Herbivores only get enrichment from grazing on plants. They can only sustain their hunger with feeders

[silent shuttle]

I don't see why you need to ping me on every message

I'm right here

[silent shuttle]

Because you brought it up?

[jagged forge]

Yes, which means you were responding to a conversation about a toggle

[silent shuttle]

I was responding to your message because you brought it up out of nowhere

At no point before was I giving any attention to the idea

[jagged forge]

What are you even talking about? Me and the OP were discussing allowing herbivores to sustain themselves with plants(through a toggle). You then responded saying it was already in the game, which it’s not

[silent shuttle]

My understanding is that in sandbox the grazing gives both enrichment and food, and only giving a little enrichment in challenge mode, I could be misremembering but that's literally all I was ever talking about

I have no idea where the idea of a toggle came from

I was commenting purely on the original post and none of the comments afterwards

[jagged forge]

Herbivores do not, and have never, been able to gain food from grazing, only enrichment. It was an idea that was discussed by devs but never implemented, which is what prompted this suggestion in the first place.

Me and OP were talking about an alternative they could add rather than fully allowing them to sustain hunger from plants, adding a toggle for herbivore hunger specifically, so you can have an ecosystem without feeders

You responded after a conversation had already happened, so it appeared you were responding to what we were discussing. Regardless the feature is not in the game currently

[jagged forge]

Also right here you were talking about the toggle. Which is what made me think you had the context leading up to it

[silent shuttle]

Because you responded to me while talking about a toggle

[lucid pawn]

What Rayne said it's true if you turn off animal hunger all animals including carnivores will stop to search for food. If the devs add a new option to turn off only herbivore hunger, i think this situation will be solved. The main ideia it's mantain herbivores without artificial feeders like would be in an ecosystem

But if we turn off herbivore hunger but herbivores still browsing and grazing as regular behavior would be cool. Since they still have these browsing/grazing behaviors, i'm satisfied

This would apply to both herbivores and frugivores.

[rough steppe]

I mean, If you already add things like this, why not make it a sandbox- option to have them gaining Food from browsing. Like, the Carnivores will be able to eat corpses, which is also not something really necessary for a zoo.- game. It would basically be only fair.

[lucid pawn]

Agreed

But for sandbox naturalistic zoos would be important

[jagged forge]

They discussed adding that as an option a while back but presumably they ran into an issue with it, so it never came. Which is why we were thinking of an alternative, but I agree it would be better

[rough steppe]

My last stand of information was basically that it is still debated amongst the devs, if they add it or not. Like, it is not a mechanical problem, but gamewise it would be tricky since it would remove the point of food production and stocking from the herbivores. But anyways, I still hope that it will be added in the next update alongsite carnivores feasting on corpses.

[jagged forge]

No, that’s not the reason afawk. Because it would be a sandbox only thing, so balance is irrelevant. We haven’t been given a specific reason for why it hasn’t come yet

[lucid pawn]

I really hope they could add this! The idea of carnivores feasting corpses it's cool as well. I really like nature reserve or safari style parks

[grave crescent]

Isnt grazing allready in game?

[lucid pawn]

The point is adding this behavior as an way of obtain FULL NUTRITION in sandbox mode option

[grave crescent]

Yeah i get it, why isnt it allready implemented?

[lucid pawn]

Yes

[grave crescent]

Does enrichment items fulfill hunger like regulsr feeders?

[lucid pawn]

That's why i made this suggestion

[grave crescent]

I hqvent played 1.16 yet

[lucid pawn]

Not entirely

[grave crescent]

So my experience is back to 1.15

I was worrying about the same thing you complain rn

I hope they will add grazing behaviour as way to fulfill herbivores hunger

[lucid pawn]

Exactly

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:)

@lucid pawn

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