Community Species Suggestions

[reef relic]

Judinornis or something like that. Cool little dude

[plush nacelle]

You know, therizinosaurid feels like base game animal

[reef relic]

It does
-# should've been a combat-update slam dunk ngl

[plush nacelle]

Thinking about it

[mint creek]

they should add this thing I think

[fiery crow]

I think that’s Macrauchenia? or Aepycamelus

[peak hazel]

they should add me

[mint creek]

It's the Mac

very cool animal, far cooler than Troodon

[peak hazel]

no I'm way cooler

not the dinosaur
me

[burnt shore]

and more completed too

[ancient ibex]

Tropeognathus remains cool, but what a mess of a naming convention

[silver steeple]

Good chance it isn't even Quetz lol

The 8 inch long shaggy feathers with an undercoat beg to differ

[fiery crow]

I remember when people thought it had a trunk

[silver steeple]

Most people do

[ancient ibex]

Can't talk about the details I believe, but there is reason to suspect the Nemegt has been estimated as colder than it'd likely be

[slim flare]

In the same time and place as the butt-arse naked Psittacosaurus, and other species likely also naked like ankylosaurs

I’m not saying it didn’t get “cold,” but I hate that Yutyrannus is singled out as some sort of special cold-adapted species just because it had feathers

[silver steeple]

Psittaco has thicker skin than just about any animal of its size, thought to be an adaptation to colder climates

The average temperature of the Yixian is somewhere around that of modern Boston

With a higher elevation

[slim flare]

Then we should consider Psittacosaurus sp. a cold species

[fiery crow]

Crocodylia DLC

Free Species:

• Kaprosuchus saharicus
• Sarcosuchus imperator

Habitat:

• Barinasuchus arveloi
• Dakosaurus maximus
• Gryposuchus jessei
• Purussaurus brasiliensis
• Stomatosuchus inermis
• Voay robustus

Vivarium:

• Araripesuchus tsangatsangana
• Mekosuchus inexpectatus

[slim flare]

And all the Yixian fauna

[charred cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-2-badlands-2023-bbc-nature-documentary-rajasaurus-narmadensis-gif-3817699347805581745

RAJASAURUS

[slim flare]

Pretty good

[fiery crow]

Grypo or Rhampho

I was split between the two

[peak hazel]

I'd go Grypo

[slim flare]

Stomatosuchus and Metriorhynchus are also good

[slim flare]

Rhampho who?

[fiery crow]

I was gonna include Quinkana instead of Meko but Meko is considerably less fragmentary

[peak hazel]

theres definitely a lot more pseudosuchians you could add

[fiery crow]

I’m trying to do it the way Phorcys does it, six habitat species and two vivie species

[peak hazel]

fair

[slim flare]

Voay

[peak hazel]

you could probably make a full pack off just Thalattosuchia

[slim flare]

Do you think we could get a shrimp food type for filter feeders?

[peak hazel]

I'd hope so

[slim flare]

I do wish they split plants into browse (shrubs, trees) and graze (grasses, low ferns?)

[peak hazel]

I'm happy with the current biome split but I guess you could go further

[slim flare]

I think the cold biome just being “boreal” is a bit thin

[plush nacelle]

Should go back to climates 🗿

[fiery crow]

Amphibian DLC Pack

Free Species:

• Eryops megacephalus

Habitat:

• Diadectes sideropelicus
• Koolasuchus cleelandi
• Mastodonsaurus giganteus
• Pholiderpeton scutigerum
• Prionosuchus plummeri
• Trematosaurus brauni

Vivarium:

• Chunerpeton tianyiensis
• Platyhystrix rugosis

[plush nacelle]

Same

Also fern feeder similar to hay bales

[fiery crow]

why they call it Trematosaurus if it’s not a saurus

[rigid spindle]

It looks like a lizard ig

Like 99.9% of all other sauruses

[fiery crow]

Morrison Formation DLC

Habitat:

• Amphicotylus lucasii
• Barosaurus lentus
• Camptosaurus dispar
• Gargoyleosaurus parkpinorum
• Ornitholestes hermanni
• Tanycolagreus topwilsoni

Vivarium:

• Docodon victor (Terrestrial)
• Cteniogenys antiquus (Amphibious)
• Diablophis gilmorei (Arboreal)
• Eilenodon robustus (Terrestrial)
• Fruitadens haagarorum (Terrestrial)
• Hallopus victor (Terrestrial)

new alt. species/genus:

• Apatosaurus louisae
• Hesperosaurus mjosi (Stegosaurus alt. genus)

[lean hound]

Would cerato be non dlc

[fiery crow]

Cerato and Diplo were on the OG list

[lean hound]

og list as in big 50?

[fiery crow]

yeah

[lean hound]

but that's kinda meaningless now

[silver steeple]

Unironically kinda yeah

[slim flare]

They seem to be returning, probably

[silver steeple]

At minimum they are alpine regardless

[slim flare]

PK seriously needs more cold biome options than “boreal”

But it’s probably too late to even suggest that

[silver steeple]

I think boreal covers the cold regions florally just fine

Technically speaking I'm pretty sure the Yixian would fall into temperate using modern similar regions

Simply on the colder side

[plush nacelle]

Boston right?

Would be cfa (humid subtropical)

[silver steeple]

It's also been compared to the region of discovery

Jinzhou I believe it's called?

Within the Liaoning province

Boston is much more coastal than Yixian would have been

So that part wouldn't be particularly applicable

Most of the Yixian formation is a single or small collection of alpine lakes

[plush nacelle]

Then cold, dry winter, hot summer

At least according to koppen

From gameplay perspective I would give it temperate

[silver steeple]

Yeah

Which is what P. sp has

I could see Yuty getting boreal for the meme though

Same for Cryo

[short rover]

I don’t see the issue of yuty getting boreal cuz of gameplay variety

[fiery crow]

we should get Liaoningosaurus /lh

[coarse inlet]

given that all the other members of the 50 that I recall were on the post-EA free species list I dont think so

[plush nacelle]

Aside guanlong of course, which looks like was the 5th cut animal

[fiery crow]

I hope not

either that or they’re saving it for DLC

[slim flare]

Tbf, that list may have extended further down

And idk why people consider the pre-50 species absolutely cut

[plush nacelle]

I just noticed guan was cut alongside nothro, tenonto, thesc and sauropelta

[fiery crow]

we don’t need Nothro if we’re gonna get Theri

Tenoto and Sauropelta are questionable cuts

[mint creek]

Every species is in limbo except Nanotyrannus

[fiery crow]

Thescelo is
eh, I wouldn’t really care if it was in or not

[peak hazel]

and Coty

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[peak hazel]

oh mein gott its EZ

[mint creek]

Hey Ez

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How are U

😶‍🌫️

[mint creek]

What do you think of Macrauchenia? I was thinking about it today and I really want it in game

[peak hazel]

we need Physeter macrocephalus

[plush nacelle]

All should come back

Deinonychus included

[low bridge]

Macrauchenia would be Neat as social SA mammal

Premium Cheese

[fiery crow]

no, what we need is Squalodon

I need the dolphin-whale

[mint creek]

https://tenor.com/view/smilodon-hunting-macrauchenia-smilodon-prehistoric-planet-smilodon-prehistoric-planet-ice-age-prehistoric-planet-gif-12344055923610443083

[fiery crow]

Pezosiren for an Islands DLC

[low bridge]

Xenorhinotherium, Theosodon also would Fit

[slim flare]

I love the fur flying off

[slim flare]

Deinonychus especially

[low bridge]

I would want all three best Dromeosaurids in Prehistoric Kingdom: Utahraptor, Deinonychus, Austroraptor

Nothing else

[fiery crow]

how we feeling on Sivatherium

[slim flare]

Uh oh

[low bridge]

Bramatherium as Alt is needed since it's close relative to it

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-karol-yellowangiru-donato-frowning-friends-gif-24541371

[low bridge]

We want Deinotherium

Peak Elephant

[peak hazel]

ready up

[fiery crow]

Platybelodon tho

[low bridge]

Perfect

[fiery crow]

would it need its own rig considering its skull shape

[low bridge]

What about Pyrotherium

Theosodon

[fiery crow]

any of those weird ass SANUs in general

[low bridge]

I am excited for U18 and U19

[plush nacelle]

Would probably be elephant rig, but with adjusted feeding animation

[dull prism]

It’s also ignoring really interesting traits of non feathered dinosaurs from the formation

[dull prism]

They were a lot bigger than people realize if I’m not mistaken

Plus they could get super unique with the head and possible coat lengths since it had a large range

[fiery crow]

how we feeling about Stratodus

[coarse inlet]

Yesss

[fiery crow]

I know it’s probably a bit generic when compared to other WIS species but I think it’s cool

[coarse inlet]

Stratodus is weird af I wouldn’t call it “generic”

Maybe “obscure”

[fiery crow]

compare it to:

• Dolichorynchops
• Elasmosaurus
• Enchoteuthis
• Parapuzosia
• Tylosaurus
• Xiphactinus

[alpine thicket]

As extinct fish go Stratodus is not generic at all it's absolutely in the same realm as those.

[fiery crow]

yeah I have no idea wtf I was talking about

[coarse inlet]

Islands DLC
Free Species:

• Mammuthus exilis
• Masiakasaurus knopfleri

Habitat Species:

• Hatzegopteryx thamemba
• Magyarosaurus dacus
• Meiolania platyceps/brevicollis/sp.
• Aepyornis maximus
• Thecodontosaurus antiquus
• Hoplitomeryx matthei

Vivarium Species:

• Deinogalerix koenigswaldi
• Pterodactylus antiquus

[fiery crow]

Deinogalerix ❤️

technically an apex predator considering where it lived too

[coarse inlet]

Ehhh

Tyto gigantea was probably eating them

This feels like it’d basically fill the role of a small dromaeosaur

[plush nacelle]

Depends on species

Not sure whether owl would want to get near biggest one

[coarse inlet]

I’ve read that large female owls probably hunted them occasionally

[icy gate]

You mean the Tarbosaurus isotope paper?

[plush nacelle]

Would be fierce battle then with deinogalerix eating owl on ocassion

[icy gate]

It argues for a mean annual temp of ~8 C, which like, is cold, but it's not freezing

Winters could drop to 0, but they're likely not dropping much further

Nemegt was still situated in a highland desert, so it's going to be absolutely blitzing during the summer

[burnt shore]

Some Enantiornithes would be nice as vivarium

[feral cedar]

Ngl I’d move Hatz and Magy to their own DLC featuring Zalmoxes, Telmatosaurus, and Struthiosaurus

[ancient dagger]

With the blurred RE DLC, I got some new lists for potential DLC

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Show PLEASE, BE OUR SAVIOUR

[ancient dagger]

Recently Extinct
Bos (Aurochs)
Conuropsis (Caroline Parakeet) - Vivarium
Dinornis (Giant Moa)
Equus (Quagga and Wild Horse)
Extopistes (Passenger Pigeon) - Vivarium
Pinguinus (Great Auk)
Raphus (Dodo)
Thylacinus (Thylacine)

Marine DLC
Anomalocaris - Vivarium
Archelon
Elasmosaurus
Icthyosaurus/Stenopterygius
Jaekelopterus - Vivarium
Kronosaurus
Mosasaurus
Stellar's Sea Cow

Flying DLC
Confuciusornis - Vivarium
Dsungaripterus
Hieraaetus (Haast's Eagle)
Jeholornis - Vivarium
Pteranodon/Geosternbergia
Quetzalcoatlus/Hatzegopteryx
Tropeognathus
Tupandactylus

Vivarium DLC
Acanthostega - Vivarium
Didelphodon - Vivarium
Eryops - Vivarium
Euparkaria - Vivarium
Halszkaraptor - Vivarium
Isotelus - Vivarium
Lystrosaurus - Vivarium
Thrinaxodon - Vivarium

Paleozoic DLC
Anteosaurus
Dimetrodon
Dunkleosteus
Edaphosaurus
Estemmenosuchus
Inostrancevia
Moschops
Scutosaurus/Pareiasaurus

[peak hazel]

I don't know if Ophthalmo makes a good alt for Ichthyo

I would also go Tropeognathus over Ornithocheirus

[ancient dagger]

Triassic DLC
Desmatosuchus
Drepanosaurus - Vivarium
Eoraptor - Vivarium
Herrerasaurus
Lisowicia
Placerias
Postosuchus
Saurosuchus

Jurassic DLC
Camptosaurus
Ceratosaurus
Diplodocus/Barosaurus
Juramaia - Vivarium
Kentrosaurus
Ornitholestes
Plesiosaurus
Rhamphorhynchus

[peak hazel]

giving Ichthyosaurus species alts or Stenopterygius is better
especially since Ophthalmo and Icthyo aren't really that close

[ancient dagger]

Cretaceous DLC
Centrosaurus
Deinonychus
Gorgosaurus/Albertosaurus
Jeholornis - Vivarium
Repenomamus - Vivarium
Stenonychosaurus/Troodon
Tenontosaurus
Therizinosaurus

[peak hazel]

wouldn't go Troodon

[ancient dagger]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ironic-star-wars

[peak hazel]

yeah I know

until the mess is sorted out its not a good pick

Stenon with a Troodon sp alt is a slightly better option

[ancient dagger]

Fair compromise

[peak hazel]

unless Currie's neotype is accepted but even then its problematic

I would split the Cenozoic

Palaeogene, Neogene, Quaternary

[ancient dagger]

I actually did split it to Early and Late Cenozoic

Redo

Early Cenozoic DLC
Basilosaurus
Dorudon
Gastornis
Hyracotherium - Vivarium
Hyaenodon
Merycoidodon/Mesoreodon
Purgatorius - Vivarium

Late Cenozoic DLC
Bison (Long Horned Bison)
Camelops (Giant Camel)
Daeodon
Diprotodon
Gigantopithecus
Moropus/Ancylotherium
Procranioceras
Varanus (Megalania)

[peak hazel]

Cenozoic is an era while something like Cretaceous is a period

so it doesn't really split early-late

[ancient dagger]

I know, I'm just trying to keep it to quality over quantity

Finale Pack
Arctodus (Short Faced Bear)
Cryolophosaurus
Hippotragus (Bluebuck)
Mammut (American Mastodon)
Mapusaurus/Giganotosaurus
Megalosaurus
Otodus (Megalodon)
Paleoloxodon

And that's about it

Tweaked them according to your suggestions

[tough marsh]

Prionosuchus is early permian

[cinder radish]

Dream roster

Though going by the RE blurry list, these dlcs seem kinda generous

[ancient dagger]

Shit, my bad lmao

[tough marsh]

your fine

[cinder radish]

I'm guessing they are going to be consistent with 6 full exhibits and 2 Vivs, maybe

[ancient dagger]

Probably

Which is probably fair

[cosmic cosmos]

eryops viv is diabolical

also lystro

[ancient dagger]

It’d be one of the bigger vivarium animals next to Titanoboa

[ancient dagger]

Too iconic not to include lol

[cosmic cosmos]

theres no reason for either of these to be vivs

by that i mean ery and lystro

[fiery crow]

isn’t Lystro like the same size as Diictodon

[fresh ember]

Smaller species were.

The largest ones were the size of pigs.

[cosmic cosmos]

not the largest species, but heres murrayi

[lean hound]

Basically just a Morrison dlc

[ancient dagger]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waltergotme

Though half are not in Morrison

Sooooo

[lean hound]

5 are, 4 aren’t

[ancient dagger]

A fair ratio

Not my fault Morrison has so many good picks

[final quest]

Stupendemys and Gigantoraptor is what I want the most maybe at least in this current moment
Oh and also a giant armadillo

[vivid musk]

I would love for the Purusaurus to be added into PK alongside the Deinosuchus hopefully in U18.

[fiery crow]

Grypo/Rhampho/Dyro tho

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Hello i suggest whole Bunch of Giraffs:
Bramatherium
Discokeryx
Samotherium
Giraffokeryx
Climacoceras
Injanatherium
Honanotherium
Georgiomeryx
Shansitherium
Mitilanotherium
Birgerbohlinia

Sivatherium is WELL KNOW TO EVERYONE

[craggy sigil]

Gigantoraptor
It is a flocking animal that goes up to 3-5 individuals per flock, when nesting they become very aggressive and intimidate or attack other animals near its nest and drive away other gigantoraptor, sitting on its nest constantly only leaving for food and water.

Gigantoraptor would eat a mixture of vegetation, seeds, and nuts, supplemented by small vertebrates, insects, and the eggs of other dinosaurs and potentially feeding on carrion when having the chance.

It has 3 attacks 2 having a charge variation.

Peck it used mainly long ranged and has a charge variation, does medium damage and light piercing damage.
Claw swipe is used close ranged and does low damage and low bleed damage.
Kick is a close range attack and does the medium damage, low piercing and high bleed damage, has a charge variation.

I don’t really know how combat will work so piercing and bleed is an addition if it ever gets added.
Piercing ignores armor.
Bleed does damage overtime.

[flint sable]

just gonna say this

nothing against gigantoraptor

but 2/3 of your description being based on combat mechanics isnt very indicitive of PK animal behavior

even when combat is added

[fiery crow]

Going to start doing my own daily recommendations from here on out.

May 25, Phosphatherium escuilliei. Despite not looking like one, this little guy is one of the earliest-known proboscideans and really goes to show that elephants started from humble beginning. Discovered in the Ouled Abdoun Basin, located in Morocco, in 1996, Phosphatherium is believed to have been a herbivore with a semi-aquatic lifestyle similar to modern day hippos. Phosphatherium lacked a trunk and instead used a rhino-like upper lip to graze plants.

Being the size of a large house cat, Phosphatherium is likely the only proboscidean in the game that’s also viable as a vivarium species. While there are more notable early proboscideans out there such as Moeritherium or Numidotherium, I feel Phosphatherium is a notable addition due to its unique size and notable attributes. While its fossil record mostly contains of cranial and dental material, scientists have been able to learn enough from it that fragmentary remains aren’t much of an issue.

[true pivot]

Just read the most depressing article about searching for Imperial Woodpeckers in Mexico and man they'd be a great choice for a "Recently Extint DLC, Volume 2"

[burnt shore]

I would go for moeritherium for basal proboscideans

[fiery crow]

While this is a fair argument and I’d love to see Moeritherium in, Phosphatherium is earlier than Moeritherium and is our best (and only) candidate for a viable vivarium proboscidean. A weak reason, I know, but it’d be interesting to see.

[burnt shore]

Fair, I put Moeritherium as it has a "complete" fossil while Phosphatherium, from what I can tell, only has a skull

[feral cedar]

Well, think about it like this

Moeritherium is our full exhibit basal proboscidean, Phosphatherium is a vivarium one

It's sort of like how many people request a second basal bipedal ceratopsian (Aquilops/Microceratus/Yinlong etc) despite Psittacosaurus already being in the game; they cover different size niches, and ergo one is full exhibit, one is vivarium

[craggy sigil]

Ik I just pinpointed the possibly unique behaviour of gigantoraptor

Besides its a species suggestion it’s not like everything in my suggestion will be added

[feral cedar]

"Piercing ignores armor"?

[craggy sigil]

Yea I said that I don’t know how the combat system will work so if it depends on a defense stat or something

[fiery crow]

that’s what I’d prefer

[craggy sigil]

Example say there’s a armored animal with a high defense stat the small percentage of the raw damage that does piercing ( ignores armor ) and just directly hits the health or something like that

Sorry if it’s a bad explanation it’s like 2am for me and I’m tired

[feral cedar]

PK combat isn't going to be this extensive

[craggy sigil]

Ok

[spring ridge]

mastodon when

[fiery crow]

the combat system aint gonna be that deep bro

[fiery crow]

Colombian Mastodon for sure

[feral cedar]

what

[fiery crow]

oh

[feral cedar]

that doesn't exist

[fiery crow]

Colombian Mammoth

[spring ridge]

huh

[feral cedar]

lol

[fiery crow]

I’m duuuuuuumb

[feral cedar]

Columbian mammoth is allegedly in the post-release DLC ideas

[burnt shore]

I too would like mastodon and colombian mammoth in the game

[feral cedar]

I could see it being a heavy hitter addition alongside a La Brea DLC with dire wolves, Megalonyx, Camelops, Platygonus, and Arctodus. Two vivariums (idk which ngl) and the long-horned bison making its glorious comeback as the free species

[spring ridge]

i think a paramylodon would be better suited to a la brea dlc

tmk megalonyx is relatively rare in the pits

may be wrong though

[fiery crow]

Capromeryx and the owl

[spring ridge]

poor capro lol

i know just the animal for vivariums lol

[feral cedar]

ngl Nothrotheriops, actually

[spring ridge]

good choice too

[fiery crow]

is Nothro the one that Sid was based off of

[spring ridge]

nah it was megalonyx i think

[fresh ember]

Yeah, that sounds about right.

[fresh ember]

Fun fact; It was neither.

[fiery crow]

ik there was a turkey too

[true pivot]

Dwarf pronghorn and Kurochkin's pygmy owl would be cool

[feral cedar]

Sid wasn't based on any spefic ground sloth. The idea that Sid is a Megalonyx to my knowledge is good ol' misinformation spread by the Ice Age fandom wiki

[spring ridge]

i see

i see

[fresh ember]

Yup, and even official media simply refers to Megatherium.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/iceage/images/9/91/Screenshot_2020-06-10_at_11.13.34_PM.png/revision/latest?cb=20200611052002

[feral cedar]

Paleontologists were asked about which ground sloth Sid gets CLOSEST to and they said Nothrotheriops shastensis

[feral cedar]

"not related to the sloths we know today"

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-12198388917433403789

[feral cedar]

Go to sandbox, turn off combat, put a woolly mammoth, a Nothrotheriops, and a Smilodon fatalis in one enclosure

:)

[fiery crow]

I like the idea that giant ground sloths could just fuck around and do whatever they wanted because nothing wanted to fuck with them
even if that might not’ve been the case

[spring ridge]

i mean

you had humans

[fiery crow]

we hunted em to extinction right

😔

[spring ridge]

yurr

tmk at least

i think habitat loss was a part of it too

[fiery crow]

imagine a world where ground sloths and mammoths were still living among us

[spring ridge]

younger dryas made a ton of wetland dependent species get thrown off

https://meetingorganizer.copernicus.org/EGU26/EGU26-8869.html

speaking of wetlands

cervalces would be lovely

c. scotti and c. latifrons

and castoroides

[low bridge]

La Brea needs Aenocyon, Camelops, Shasta Ground Sloth, Columbian Mammoth

Arctodus TOO

[spring ridge]

oki

👍

[sick pasture]

Palaeoloxodon namadicus for a DLC, I want to pay for it.

[fiery crow]

Canadian Creatures DLC

Habitat:

• Albertonectes vanderveldei, alt. genus Wapuskanectes betsynichollsae
• Albertosaurus sarcophagus, alt. genus Gorgosaurus libratus
• Arctodus simus
• Borealopelta markmitchelli
• Chasmosaurus belli
• Paramylodon harlani, alt. genus Mylodon darwini

Vivarium:

• Anomalocaris canadensis
• Teraterpeton hrynewichorum

probably not the best

[alpine thicket]

Alberto's on the list of free potential post-release animals(also I do actually think it's a shoe-in for an update).
Well, not confirmed from what I recall but pretty likely.

[shy vale]

what's the point of having leidyosuchus if there's already going to be deinosuchus?

[fiery crow]

we need more than just Deinosuchus for crocodylians

but Leidyo is probably the one I’m the most unsure on, yes

[shy vale]

what about albertochampsa for a smaller crocodylian?

also that's basically mostly a dinosaur park dlc

[fiery crow]

replaced Leidyo with Albertonectes

[shy vale]

yeah i think that's a better choice

actually do elasmosaurus with albertonectes alt

i know elasmosaurus wasn't found in canada

[fiery crow]

I’m pretty sure they’d include Elasmosaurus in a base marine expansion

[shy vale]

i see then

styxosaurus as an alt in that case?

[fiery crow]

Styxosaurus would probably be an Elasmo alt genus

I’m thinking Wapuskanectes as the alt genus for Albertonectes

[shy vale]

that would be more like juxia to paraceratherium

[fiery crow]

Paraceratherium as an alt. for Juxia? is that what you mean

[shy vale]

other way around

like wapuskanectes would be like the juxia to paraceratherium's albertonectes

[fiery crow]

ah

I’m thinking on doing other countries
I’m gonna do either Germany or Japan next

[shy vale]

japan would basically have "fukui-" taxa

germany has a lot

you could do multiple germany dlcs

like a vivarium-centric messel pit one

here's for instance, a sohnholfen-centric one (though it would be vivarium, flying and marine animals)
-rhamphorynchus
-anurognathus (vivarium)
-dakosaurus
-pterodactylus
-spathagnathus
-palaeocarcharias
-schoenesmahl (vivarium)
-sciurumimus

[fiery crow]

Japan DLC

Habitat:

• Allodesmus sinanoensis, alt. species kelloggi
• Brygmophyseter shigensis
• Fukuiraptor kitadaniensis
• Fukuivenator paradoxus
• Phosphasaurus ponpetelegans, alt. species ortliebi
• Stegodon aurorae, alt. species orientalis

Vivarium:

• Annakacygna hajimei
• Anomalochelys angulata

[shy vale]

if there's marine stuff megapterygius could be a good add

also stegodon orientalis and aurorae could be another add (do alts)

[cosmic cosmos]

theres also the phosphorosaurus from japan

which i think is a good addition with or without country of origin

[fiery crow]

Annakacygna is just cool to me
I wanna see a filter-feeding sea swan in the game because that’s just so unique

[shy vale]

yeah, and i may also add mesodermochelys for marine stuff
other dinosaurs could be paralitherizinosaurus, tyrannomimus, hypnovenator (yes i know about hodari), maybe sasayamagnomus as an aquilops alt

[fiery crow]

I’m trying to restrict it to 6 habitat species and 2 vivie species

[shy vale]

i see then, though based on that dlc proposal it may be 7-8-ish habitat species and 2 vivarium?

[fiery crow]

Recently Extinct DLC is 6 habitat and 2 vivie

[shy vale]

if you count alts it's like maybe more than that?

but i get your point

[fiery crow]

is there not a lot when it comes to Korea

[shy vale]

in terms of dinosaurs there isn't a lot

they have more footprints and eggs

[fiery crow]

there’s barely anything

[shy vale]

like do we really need to add doolysaurus?

even among the 2026 discoveries it's not really as huge...

[fiery crow]

ik there’s a lot for China

and Mongolia

[cosmic cosmos]

hypnovenator is garbage

paralitherizinosaurus

[shy vale]

yeah but i was kinda spitballing

[left spear]

That's a lotta giraffes

[mint creek]

That’s my goat

[elfin yarrow]

I’d love to see a pack in the future with animals from the Miocene

Giant killer birds and pigs and such

We all love dinosaurs but there are so few games representing these weird and wonderful mammals

[outer moth]

As much as I enjoy Giganto, PK isn’t going to be a fighting game

You’re describing P.E.’s Gigantoraptor lol

[low bridge]

Duonychus is A LOT MORE INTERESTING therizinosaurid

[cosmic cosmos]

i would like beipi once the adult specimens are described

[outer moth]

Also Hypnovenator has allegations

[outer moth]

Falcarius:

[silver steeple]

Wtf are you talking about

[fiery crow]

Brazil DLC

Habitat:

• Baurusuchus pachecoi
• Irritator challengeri
• Prionosuchus plummeri
• Staurikosaurus pricei
• Toxodon platensis
• Tropeognathus mesembrinus

Vivarium:

• Mesosaurus tenuidens (Amphibious)
• Venetoraptor gassenae (Arboreal)

[cosmic cosmos]

what romualdo stuff have u already listed

[fiery crow]

Irritator and Tropeognathus

[cosmic cosmos]

like in previous dlc suggestion i mean

[fiery crow]

nothing from my previous country DLC suggestions

[cosmic cosmos]

thalassodromeus would be worth adding then methinks

[fiery crow]

Thalassodromeus > Tropeognathus, or should I keep Tropeo?

[cosmic cosmos]

they occupy different roles as far as how they would be exhbited/how they behave

both are good

[fiery crow]

well it’s either one or the other, I’m trying to keep it at 6 habitat species and 2 vivie species

[cosmic cosmos]

just keep thal in mind then for a future idea then ^^

[fiery crow]

ight

[peak hazel]

I'd keep Tropeo on that list

[cosmic cosmos]

this one is a banger, for sure would buy it

[fiery crow]

North America:
Canada: #1360542295228944414 message

South America:
Argentina: #1360542295228944414 message
Brazil: #1360542295228944414 message

Africa:
North Africa: #1360542295228944414 message

Asia:
Japan: #1360542295228944414 message
Mongolia: #1360542295228944414 message

working on Argentina now

Salta Amarga or Brachytrachelopan

[peak hazel]

on everyones soul we need Brachytrachelopan

[cosmic cosmos]

i can see amarga base game, brachy lowk

[fiery crow]

Argentina DLC

Free Species:

• Amargasaurus cazaui
• Herrerasaurus ichigualastensis

Habitat:

• Argentavis magnificens
• Brachytrachelopan mesai
• Eoraptor lunensis
• Giganotosaurus carolinii, alt. genus Mapusaurus roseae
• Sebecus icaeorhinus, alt. genus Barinasuchus arveloi
• Thylacosmilus atrox

Vivarium:

• Buitreraptor gonzalezorum (Terrestrial)
• Interatherium robustum (Amphibious)

I was originally gonna include Salta and Proborhyaena 💔

[peak hazel]

oh mein gott Giganotosaurus roseae

[low bridge]

What U Dudes think of Prehistoric Giraffes Overall

?

[mint creek]

They're pretty cool

[cosmic cosmos]

sivatherium good

[peak hazel]

they're like giraffes but prehistoric

[low bridge]

Which Ones are YOUR fav Mr Troodon?

[peak hazel]

erm er

[low bridge]

Sivatherium not counts

[peak hazel]

G. camelopardalis

[low bridge]

Injanatherium is pretty Cool

Mr Troodon

[peak hazel]

is that not Sivatherium

[low bridge]

No

It is Injanatherium

[peak hazel]

yeah its kind of cool I guess

but theres mammals I'd like more then a giraffe

[feral cedar]

Sivatherium is good enough

We don’t really need any more

[low bridge]

Bramatherium? Discokeryx?

[vital grove]

dont forget tsaidamotherium

[feral cedar]

Bramatherium could work as an alt for Sivatherium, but it strikes me as alts for the sake of alts

[low bridge]

I will NEVER forget Prolibytherium

[vital grove]

also a cool one

[low bridge]

They are c.r

We need Sivatherium Maurusium, Giganteum,Hendeyi

[peak hazel]

we need Mautherium

[fiery crow]

North Africa DLC:

Free Species:

• Sarcosuchus imperator

Habitat:

• Aegirocassis benmoulai
• Arsinoitherium zitteli
• Moeritherium lyonsi
• Ocepechelon bouyai
• Prolibytherium magnieri
• Stomatosuchus inermis

Vivarium:

• Aegyptopithecus zeuxis (Arboreal)
• Macroscaphites yvani (Aquatic)

[feral cedar]

actually Sivatherium, Discokeryx and Prolibytherium are a decent trio of giraffoids

[fiery crow]

they’re the giraffoids I’d prefer the most

[feral cedar]

But Sivatherium is my preferred choice because Mau hates the damn thing

[low bridge]

4th giraff can be Bramatherium as Alt for Sivatherium

[cosmic cosmos]

i really dont care for most mammals so ill trust yall on this lol

[feral cedar]

not really a 4th giraffe then is it

[fiery crow]

Brama feels like an alt for the sake of having an alt ngl

[feral cedar]

^

[low bridge]

Mau is Simple Dude if he hates something in reality he loves it

[fiery crow]

was Siva discovered in North Africa or nah

[vital grove]

.... theres more of a visual difference than with the panthera and smilodons

[feral cedar]

Yes but if we suggest every visually distinct animal then we’d have a dozen ceratopsids as contenders

[low bridge]

Watch this

[vital grove]

they kinda do and id say brahma deserves it more than 2 triceratops species

[wary nacelle]

They should just add Didelphodon right now

like at this very moment

thanks

[low bridge]

We need some grassland stuff like Deinotherium, Sivatherium, Ancylotherium (African Chalicothere)

And we are Happy

[peak hazel]

Why not regular Chalicotherium

[coarse inlet]

Chalicotherium is kinda shit ngl

[mint creek]

Deinotherium and Sivatherium are both my most wanted African mammals I think

[plush nacelle]

True words

[coarse inlet]

Anisodon is the better calichotheriine

[low bridge]

It sounds "Generic"

Mr Troodon

[peak hazel]

Why are we not picking the generic choices

They're generic for a reason

[plush nacelle]

Famous name and such, but apparently it looks like knuckle walking schizothere, while anisodon clade was going full convergent with great apes

[low bridge]

Moropus is Neat

[coarse inlet]

All the cool Chalicotherium reconstructions are actually Anisodon

[vital grove]

🗿

[fiery crow]

I think God was just smoking a lot of shit during the Miocene

[vital grove]

i want what he had

[fiery crow]

he was just on the strongest LSD imaginable

[peak hazel]

Oh in that case go Anisodon

I'm not that familiar with these guys

[coarse inlet]

Well yeah, there was grass everywhere

[low bridge]

Tylocephalonyx

🤩🤩

[coarse inlet]

Anisodon used to be a species of Chalicotherium and was often used as a basis for reconstructions

[vital grove]

every time i see any chalicothere i just think of this weirdo

[low bridge]

Why can we be limited to only Chalicotherium,like Ancylotherium,Moropus, Tylocephalonyx, Nestoritherium Exist

[low bridge]

Miocene is Totally Underrated

[vital grove]

i mean the past 65 million years altogether mammals have just been testing dumb stuff

barylambda

it gives the ''generic mammal'' vibe of the hyrax

[fiery crow]

we lost some real ones at the end of the Eocene

[vital grove]

it looks so unpacable but also so standard mammal

[vital grove]

would genuinely love to see some mammals like this its a often overlooked period in games rn we only have titanoboa right?

[fiery crow]

yeah

there’s quite a few good choices too

Phenacodus, Coryphodon, Stylinodon, Taeniolabis, Titanoides, Barylambda, Plesiadapis, Gastornis, Carbonemys

[low bridge]

Embolotherium, Eobasileus, Uintatherium, Megacerops

[vital grove]

also a sebecid

[fiery crow]

Borealosuchus for some Normal Kingdom

Champso

[vital grove]

i mean in terms of more normal shaped modern lineage crocodilians id say some of the later ones are better purrusaurus and voay for example

[vital grove]

100%

[low bridge]

Crocodylus Anthropopohagus, Crocodylus Thorbjornarsoni are maybe good

[vital grove]

i dont think this will happen or is necesarry

purru and deino are essentially a large caiman and alligator while sarco does look very similar to modern crocs then voay as a more reasonable sized crocodile would probably fill it up pretty nicely i think thats enough standard crocodile shaped crocodilians (not excluding things like the filter feeding one its waaay different)

[low bridge]

Euthecodon

Rhamphosuchus

[vital grove]

phytosaurs and champsosaurus would be great though

[vital grove]

id say a good choice its very distinct looking

[vital grove]

also a good option

they both dont seem to be in the same niche as deino voay purru and sarco are

i just meant that things to similar to modern crocodiles excluding the gharial will be in the game and we dont need to many of them not that other unique cases should be excluded

id say modern crocodilians alltogether but i dont think sarco is

[fiery crow]

May 26, Squalodon whitmorei. Though originally believed to be an iguanodontid, palaeontologists would soon discover that it was actually a toothed whale with teeth similar to a sharks’. Discovered in Europe, eastern North America, New Zealand, and Argentina, it lived in the Oligocene and Miocene epochs of the Paleogene and Neogene respectively. Similarly to an orca, it is believed that Squalodon was a predator that preyed on small seabirds, marine mammals, fish, and cephalopods.

[coarse inlet]

Squalodon, Eurhinodelphis, and Nihohae are the dolphins I’d love to see

[fiery crow]

Ankylorhiza too

[peak hazel]

Eurhinodelphis

whered they get that from

[fiery crow]

yesssss Eurhinodelphis would be sick

as long as we don’t have any show mechanics like in ZT2 I’d love to see it

[peak hazel]

we also need Eurhinosaurus if we get Eurhinodelphis

[fiery crow]

this would be my reaction if Eurhinodelphis got in
https://youtu.be/OvbBLDSpO3A?si=IFIT_JeG5csiMaXx

[vital grove]

domehead dolphin(globicetus)

[coarse inlet]

Nohihae was wild

Anhanguerid lookin ass

[fiery crow]

kinda looks like a river dolphin

[fiery crow]

Pachycephalocetus

[vital grove]

and ensidelphis it has an assymentrically bent mouth

[fresh ember]

Borzoi moment

[vital grove]

except its bent sideways

[coarse inlet]

How sure are we that’s not just taphonomy or pathology

[coarse inlet]

Sounds like there’s only one specimen

Might just be a weirdo

[vital grove]

yeah but i pray to god they find more haha

and that it is in fact standard lol

i just remembered it and thought it would be funny to send

however on the topic of ceteceans a predatory baleen whale relalative would be really cool and coronodon has really cool dentition

nothing special in size but plenty unique and threathening

[vital grove]

anyone else get this vibe from that reconstruction

[burnt shore]

"Its not that funny, guys!"

[vital grove]

they seem to think its hilarious

[fiery crow]

Mongolia DLC

Free Species:

• Therizinosaurus cheloniformis

Habitat:

• Embolotherium andrewsi
• Gobiatherium mirificum
• Mongolestes hadrodens
• Opisthocoelicaudia skarzynskii, alt. genus Nemegtosaurus mongoliensis
• Sarkastodon mongoliensis
• Tarchia kielanae, alt. species teresae & tumanovae

Vivarium:

• Gobiosuchus kielanae (Terrestrial)
• Halszkaraptor escuilliei (Amphibious)

[true pivot]

Really enjoying these DLC pack ideas, Autumn. Thanks for sharing!

[fiery crow]

thanks

I think the trickiest to make for me so far was the North Africa DLC

[coarse inlet]

Croc Mini Pack
Habitat Species:

• Kaprosuchus saharicus
• Sebecus icaeorhinus
• Dakosaurus maximus

Vivarium Species:

• Mekosuchus whitehunterensis

[fiery crow]

Barina would be a good alt. genus for Sebecus methinks

[coarse inlet]

Maybe

[peak hazel]

is kapro better as an alt for the other guy actually

it is just a skull

even though that skull is really well preserved

[fiery crow]

Mahajanga?

[coarse inlet]

IMO the head is too different for them to be alts

And Kapro is more famous and visually distinctive

I’d love both but if I need to choose I’d go with Kapro

[fiery crow]

I think the tricky part with a DLC like this is that there’s so many good crocs to choose from

[coarse inlet]

For sure

But that’s just how it goes sometimes

[fiery crow]

even the more obscure ones like Fruitachampsa or Piscogavialis would work really well

[coarse inlet]

Sure but first I’d cover the more iconic ones

[peak hazel]

fair

I would also rather have Kapro

[coarse inlet]

Pseudosuchian Mini Pack
Habitat Species:

• Smilosuchus adamanensis/gregorii
• Shuvosaurus inexpectatus
• Qianosuchus mixtus

Vivarium Species:

• Parvosuchus aurelioi

[fiery crow]

Shuvo > Sillo

much more fossil material

[coarse inlet]

Yes and also I like the size niche better for a shuvosaur

[vital grove]

how about a 10 species archosauromorpha dlc spanning more time and focusing on lesser known things so no sarcho or purrusaurus

[peak hazel]

on everyones soul that better include Erythrosuchus

[vital grove]

sorry archosauriform but cmon we reaaaally need erythro or fasolasuchus

[fiery crow]

Erythro is so goofy

Fasola I think is too fragmentary

[vital grove]

thats literally my n1 favourite extinct animal ill never forget about that guy

[peak hazel]

I'd go Saurosuchus over Fasolasuchus

[fiery crow]

or Posto

[vital grove]

id say its just about enough

[coarse inlet]

Not realistic imo

[vital grove]

decent skull portions + limb bones tell us quite a lot

[vital grove]

the RE has 9 and i genuinely think they are keeping a moa or aurochs alt to reveal later

id say 6 new models 2 alts 2 viv

[coarse inlet]

The truth is that for specific clades a small DLC is probably the only way it’s happening

Same with specific formations

[fiery crow]

yo Phorcys
how would you do a country-focused DLC

[vital grove]

i can think of a dozen archosauriformes that are great options

[coarse inlet]

Same format, 3/1

[vital grove]

not that obscure looking at the playerbase either

[fiery crow]

I’m doing it 6/2
regretted doing it that way for my North Africa DLC

[coarse inlet]

Same but that doesn’t make it realistic to devote those resources to it

I already included some of the others in theme dlc ideas

[peak hazel]

Posto is bipedal so for this specific niche maybe not

[vital grove]

i disagree if we are just straight up talking dlc suggestions you can make up any theme and the devs will decide what they deem best. the game so far doesnt shy away from obscure stuff

[coarse inlet]

Postosuchus is also probably on the free additions list

[peak hazel]

I'd be shocked if we never saw it in game

[coarse inlet]

I’m specifically aiming for a plausible roster

[vital grove]

give me a minute to write some suggestions really its possible

just poposauroidae is like 3 really good options already

[coarse inlet]

My goal with these pack ideas is to narrow down my vast wishlist into something more reasonable

[vital grove]

arizonasaurus, poposaurus, fasolasuchus, erythrosuchus, desmatosuchus, qianosuchus, lotosaurus are all great options im not saying all should be added in 1 dlc but if you pick arschosauriformes as a dlc theme you could easily do 6 species 2 alts 2 vivs

4 just seems more like it should be a free update

or really cheap

[vital grove]

yeah i dont even consider it for that reason its such an easy pick for any update or dlc

[coarse inlet]

Desmatosuchus is already on my Triassic list

[vital grove]

ah okay the way you worded it it seemed like you said there arent enough archosaurs worthy of being in the game

except for dinos ofc

since your list had 4

[feral cedar]

No Saurolophus or Prenocephale?

I see you've chosen exile

[vital grove]

how dare i forget vancleava

[coarse inlet]

No that’s not what I said

[vital grove]

it seemed like you meant the clade isnt diverse enough

[coarse inlet]

What I said was that I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect a large pack that’s all about a single clade

[vital grove]

why not? i could see a mammal pack happen

[coarse inlet]

That’d be an insane thing to say lol

[vital grove]

yeah lol

[coarse inlet]

I’d expect a Cenozoic pack that’s got a lot of mammals or a Triassic pack that’s got a lot of Pseudosuchians but not a dedicated mammal or Pseudosuchian pack

[vital grove]

personally id say out of all extinct animals archosauriformes (that are not dinosaurs or pterosaurs) are my favorite

[coarse inlet]

That’s why I made the mini pack format, to give a boost on my list to groups that might not justify a full pack but have more interesting diversity than larger theme packs can represent

Same with the fish mini pack

[vital grove]

i think its possible though since we are still dealing with dozens of families in each occasion its not like making a carnivoran dlc for planet zoo the options vary widely

[coarse inlet]

There’s enough great fish to make several full sized dlcs

But if I’m thinking realistically it’s not plausible

[vital grove]

i think if you take them from diverse enough groups it can work

[coarse inlet]

You could make something good but could you make something that feels like it could really happen?

[vital grove]

i think the mammal dlc would be the best option

thinking of things that are unlikely to be added in regional dlcs

manis paleojavanica

desmostylus

any large early mammal carnivore tbf

although i do still stand by my idea of clade based vivarium dlcs since its easy to produce

like for large animals i can understand but it just completely depends on where the devs deside to throw them in

vivarium dlcs could be more themed since it will give more species anyway

and for vivs it really does fit

since modern zoos have indoor aviaries, aquariums and reptile rooms so dlcs around these themes make sense for vivariums

[coarse inlet]

Aquarium DLC

Free Species:

• Parapuzosia seppenradensis

Habitat Species:

• Diplomoceras maximum
• Protosphyaerna ferox

Vivarium Species:

• Megamastax amblyodus
• Cephalaspis lyelli
• Aegirocassis benmoulai
• Sacabambaspis janvieri
• Acadoparadoxoides briareus
• Tullimonstrum gregarium
• Dollocaris ingens
• Aspidorhynchus sanzenbacheri
• Mixosaurus cornalianus
• Bothriolepis canadensis

[vital grove]

i wish we got habitats

tullimonstrum is to small

so is dollocaris

[fiery crow]

Tulli and Dollo are like
on the borderline

[vital grove]

wait

since when is tully 35cm

did i miss something

my god thats big enough

i genuinely thought both were like 5-8cm

im happy they are not however

[peak hazel]

I always misread it as M. cornelius and get confused

[fiery crow]

how big was Aegiro? wasn’t it kinda a big guy

[peak hazel]

it was

its at least 2m long

[coarse inlet]

About Tiktaalik size

[peak hazel]

I think

[coarse inlet]

Maybe slightly larger

[vital grove]

but imagine dlc like this with themed prebuilt buildings that you can put vivariums into

[coarse inlet]

Dollocaris is up to a foot, it’s about the size of Sahonachelys

[vital grove]

hell yeah moment

[fiery crow]

is Aegiro one of those species that works as both a habitat and a vivie

[coarse inlet]

Eh, only if you don’t think about ontogeny

Do we even know what radiodont larvae looked like

[vital grove]

i think the exhibit size can be a little smaller for most aquatics and semiaquatics mainly because they are on more open terrain and more visible. the ontogeny could just start a little bigger than it realistically should ig

but aegirocassis is a bit wonky for that

if you compare it to the auk its not unreasonable but it simply wouldnt need the mobility the auk or obdurodon would realistically need

[fiery crow]

I would say Lario works as well as Mixo does

[coarse inlet]

Sure but it’s not one of my priorities and I couldn’t just put everything in

There’s already a lot of sauropterygians on my list

[peak hazel]

how large is Dollocaris actually

[coarse inlet]

12 inches

[vital grove]

30cm apparently

i gotta check ainiktozoon again if i was this wrong

[coarse inlet]

As big as or slightly bigger than Sahonachelys

[vital grove]

shame

[vital grove]

slightly shorter its shell was 25cm so with head and legs wed be at 40cm or more when extended

[coarse inlet]

The paper says exceeding 30cm

For adults

[vital grove]

okay

then its bigger

since it has the rough shape of a snakeneck turtle

[vital grove]

oh no i was talking about sahona having a shell of 25cm

[coarse inlet]

I know

[vital grove]

i saw dollocaris is 30cm i hope we get it one day

[coarse inlet]

And I’m saying that Dollocaris was bigger than 30cm

Which given its shape would make it about the same size or larger

Since idk what the largest ones are

Only that adults are at least 30 cm

[vital grove]

sahona is longer regardless becauso of its neck but dollo should be big enough

[fiery crow]

I like to imagine for Dollocaris Nigel would just be baffled
“What in the world is that? That, my friend, is Dollocaris, one of the oddest members of the already odd thylacocephalians. Researchers are unsure just what this little guy and his relatives’re meant to be, but maybe you’ll be the one to find out.”

[vital grove]

also i cannot say it here but dollocaris is very funny for what the slang term dollo means in dutch

in the most polite way it would mean ''cucumber shrimp''

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/im-bad-dance-moves-grooves-smile-gif-16417094

[low bridge]

Pleistocene Africa Expansion Pack:
Metridiochoerus
Syncerus Antiqqus
Rusingoryx
Hippo Gorgops
Dinofelis
Ancylotherium
Sivatherium
Deinotherium
Stegotetrabelodon

[fiery crow]

I thought you said Australopithecus and I was gonna say “…no”

[alpine thicket]

The Australian Pithecus

[low bridge]

😐😶

[vital grove]

if people want an australopithicus zoo they should just buy rimworld

[flint sable]

chapalmalania was much earlier, miocene to early pleistocene

same for Leptoptilos falconeri, it was pliocene

[vital grove]

sorry i got confused ill adjust it

[flint sable]

also we dont have any records of manis paleojavanica in the holocene iirc although not entirely impossible

decent picks, though

[vital grove]

i remembered the dates wrong lol ill adjust that

[vital grove]

thanks

giants dlc each is one of the largest if not the single largest of their group

[flint sable]

🔥

also holy cow thats a huge snail

[vital grove]

its not even the biggest

its specifically the largest of its group

dont know the name

[flint sable]

cowries

[vital grove]

but i dont think that includes even all sea snails lol

yeah

cowries

ngl it makes it cooler also the spikes on the shell

i figured since i used 7 new models id use 1 very easy but interesting viv animal

[flint sable]

apparently the largest sea snails can get almost a meter long

which is

insanity

[vital grove]

big ass snail

[vital grove]

extinct right the way you say this it sounds modern

also vicetia has a very unique shell shape

idc if it barely moves if it has shiny colours itll be cool af

[flint sable]

it is

[vital grove]

which

[flint sable]

largest extant snail

is nearly 1 meter

and iirc its the largest ever including the fossil record

[flint sable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrinx_aruanus

this goober

[vital grove]

by the pope

im glad i went with the cowrie then

[flint sable]

heres a good sense of scale

[silver steeple]

Late but this is a stupid reason for inclusion ngl

[vital grove]

i feel the same way as when i found out there are freshwater jellyfish... even in the netherlands

[silver steeple]

By that metric we should have giraffatitan, citipati, and like half a dozen other species

Over what we already have

[vital grove]

citipati? im not against it but oviraptor is complete enough

[silver steeple]

Ovi isn't that complete but Citipati has been the basis for it for like 30 years

[vital grove]

i just looked at location and time period and i dont even think its worth having an argument about

ovi is just ever so complete enough to have an idea

[silver steeple]

Because its not worth it

You've kinda missed my point though

[vital grove]

but just looking at location and the bones i feel like they might be the same genus (ofc im not looking into the specifics but i wouldnt be suprised if its a lion snow leopard case)

[vital grove]

i get the point but i felt oviraptor wasnt the best example

[silver steeple]

Ovi is the perfect example

The fact that you can barely tell the difference when one has been the basis for reconstructions proves my point perfectly

[vital grove]

looking at it seriously i get the impression of a taxonomic mess tbh

[vital grove]

not what i meant

i meant there is enough skull material

although you could argue for a different shaped crest there was a crest of some sort

[coarse inlet]

That’s kind of rude

[vital grove]

but since a fossil was confused between the 2 if theres no impossible difference im putting my money on that they are the same genus

gobi desert brown bears are tinyyyyyy compared to most other brown bear subspecies for example

[silver steeple]

I was saying the reasoning was bad, if you wanna take that personally that's on you

[vital grove]

i mean you couldve disagreed instead of calling it stupid i get both sides of the argument here i just think ovi is not the correct example for this situation

[silver steeple]

And I think you are wrong

[vital grove]

and thats perfectly fine im just saying i can see how he took it personally

[silver steeple]

Also you don't need to ping on every response

[vital grove]

alright

[cosmic cosmos]

Dev/EZ DLC

Cotylorhynchus
Sivatherium
Udanoceratops

[rigid spindle]

Knowing EZ realistically the pack would contain every extinct organism from the cenozoic

[autumn turret]

Smok would be cool. Interesting to see how the devs could take it reconstructions wise

[reef relic]

Where'd you see that? 👀
I don't recall Alberta showing up in the roster at any point in the games development.

[alpine thicket]

Because it's not in the game roster, it's in the post-release ideas list(and blurred so you know).

[reef relic]

Ahhhh

I was thinking you were referencing like, pre-2020 roster stuff or something and I could not for the life of me remember if I'd seen it before or not

[mint creek]

This doesn't really have anything to do with his comment

[peak hazel]

90% chance that is referring to the ark Gigantoraptor by the way

[burnt shore]

A simple vivarium species I would like is heath hen

[feral cedar]

this dude came back 2 days later with AI as a justification for his suggestion

[peak hazel]

Gigantoraptor isn't a bad suggestion per say but that way of suggesting it is

did vro get chatgpt to do the reasoning for him

[feral cedar]

“armor piercing peck” or whatever does have an AI ring to it, in retrospect

[lean hound]

Right yeah because the plentiful gigantoraptor fossils provide evidence for this

[craggy sigil]

Or maybe if you searched it up they’re close relatives sat ontop of nest to shield them from predators

Aswell as many theropods being aggressive during nesting season

[craggy sigil]

Not ChatGPT clearly

[rigid spindle]

Google ai isn't much better bromotherium 🥀

[craggy sigil]

Yh fair enough

I’ll go to websites instead of

[craggy sigil]

How

I’ll just make a new one if it makes you guys so angry then

[lean hound]

That does not prove most of the stuff it said

[craggy sigil]

Ok

[low bridge]

BRUH

[peak hazel]

this doesn't tell us what your ai overview thing says it does

and again I am very confident that it is talking about the ark one

[mint creek]

This game is a zoo management game, combat and hunting is a punishment for badly managing animals so people prefer suggestions based on the merit of the species instead of how it would potentially fight. Gigantoraptor is a great suggestion overall, just most people here aren't interested in the specifics of how it'd fight.

That's kind of why people reacted the way they did to your suggestion.

[lean hound]

stupendemys and deinotherium where

[peak hazel]

ideally you never see combat outside of intraspecific combat

so

[mint creek]

Yeah

[craggy sigil]

Gigantoraptor

Behaviour- young gigantoraptor would stay with they’re parents foraging for food and interacting/socialising with others in its group, once its near fully grown they would leave they’re group and find another group similar in age for protection and a chance to find a mate.

Mating season behaviour- gigantoraptors will let out loud rumbling calls that would attract females and other competition, when trying to impress a female they would essentially “dance” waving around its feathers and stomping the ground to prove its strength, if another male tries to gain the females attention the other male would intimidate the other male through stomps, loud calls and trying to make themselves look bigger, if they don’t back down they would occasionally peck eachother till the weaker or smaller male would back down and leave.

Nesting behaviour- the gigantoraptor will leave its group to become hyper aggressive and would intimidate anything though bellows, stomps or false charges to anything comes near its young or nest, if they don’t back down they would attack the animal through pecks, kicks or stomps.

Diet- it would eat leaves, nuts, fruit, seeds, small animals like lizards, mammals etc or carrion if it gets the chance.

[craggy sigil]

Is my new suggestion better

[ancient ibex]

TBH, suggestions that ignore how the game works aren't really good ones

[peak hazel]

seems suspect

[mint creek]

Yeah I think so 🙂

[craggy sigil]

Thanks

[safe kestrel]

is there any notable big extinct jellyfish for vivarium?

[eager thunder]

I have to imagine that jellyfish don’t really fossilize well

Alright I was wrong
There are Cambrian era jellyfish fossils

[low bridge]

Vote my poll

In pk discussion

[eager thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/moseni-slenderman-collect-my-pages-meme-gif-14113369752939103938

[fiery crow]

honestly bro
I think you should leave

if you’re going to use AI to make a suggestion

I think you should leave

[mint creek]

What an incredibly rude comment

[fiery crow]

no respect for people who use AI

I’ll admit I could’ve toned it down

[mint creek]

Yeah I think telling someone to leave is bloody ridiculous

You should be nicer to new users if you want the game to be more successful

[fiery crow]

no that was a dick move and I’m sorry

[feral cedar]

Although the point does stand that usage of AI-generated content here is less than ideal

[eager thunder]

Agreed with that

[safe kestrel]

Chill

He might be young

[eager thunder]

If we could get a prehistoric pinniped I’d be so very happy

[fiery crow]

Allodesmus? or Pontolis

[eager thunder]

Either or

[fiery crow]

May 27, Tuzoia burgessensis. An extinct genus of large bivalved arthropod from the Early-Middle Cambrian. With a carapace of 18cm, Tuzoia is one of the largest-known Cambrian arthropods. Scientists believe it may have been an actively-swimming organism that was either a predator or a scavenger, and believe it likely walked along the seafloor to move. Though not the most notable Cambrian species out there, it would be a nice secondary species for Cambrian representation.

[slim flare]

Forbidden taco

[fiery crow]

imagine what a Cambrian seafood buffet would be like

[rigid spindle]

Lots of lobster tails

[fresh ember]

"Red Anomalocaris" doesn't really have much of a ring to it.

[fiery crow]

that would be Amplectobelua if anything

[vital grove]

imagine cooking a 1m ediacaran dickinsonia

meat pancake

[fiery crow]

yim yum

[fiery crow]

cooked sea scorpion 🤤

[vital grove]

thats a village sized meal

[toxic oriole]

Fairly complete animal either way, even if its identity is a mystery

fossil-wise or something, idfk

Mike, the fossils we've got of Smok so far as of this year!

[true pivot]

(extremely "Will Spinosaurus mirabilis be in PK?" voice) Will Plumadraco bankoorum be in PK?

[magic grotto]

How accurate is this roster to that was shown so far for the RE Animal DLC?

• Bos latifrons/priscus/antiquus
• Dinornis novaezealandiae/robustus
• Equus quagga/ferus
• Pinguinus impennis
• Raphus cucullatus
• Thylacinus cynocephalus
• Conuropsis carolinensis (Vivarium)
• Ectopistes migratorius (Vivarium)

[true pivot]

I don't know that we'll get that many alts for Bos but the rest looks right to me

Would be sweet though

We're so close to having a realistic mammoth steppe I can almost smell it

[magic grotto]

A DLC dedicated to the La Brea Tar Pits would be an absolute dream come true 😍

[true pivot]

Facts

[magic grotto]

However, I don't know of any animals in La Brea that could work as Vivarium species lol

[vital grove]

notable ones probably not but la brea contains nearly anything that was alive in that area at that time

[magic grotto]

True true, so I can imagine the DLC only containing habitat animals then

[flint sable]

a smaller hesperoteudesto

juvenile tar shark

ect

[rigid spindle]

Tar shark?

[flint sable]

yes

shark that swims in the tar

[rigid spindle]

I'm listening

[magic grotto]

Here's my personal selection of La Brea animals

• Aenocyon dirus
• Camelops hesternus
• Capromeryx furcifer
• Euceratherium collinum
• Homotherium serum
• Mammuthus columbi
• Miracinonyx trumani
• Nothrotheriops shastensis
• Platygonus compressus

[low bridge]

Neat

[glass snow]

nice

[jagged zephyr]

i think it doesnt count as new species but a broken jaw skin for allo from dinosaur revolution would be cool

[magic grotto]

I would love to see some Alaskan animals represented at some point as a dedicated DLC as well;

• Alaskacephale gangloffi
• Desmostylus hesperus
• Dromaeosaurus albertensis
• Hydrodamalis gigas
• Nanuqsaurus hoglundi
• Ounalashkastylus tomidai
• Phalacrocorax perspicillatus

[wary nacelle]

Nanuqsaurus

I wish you luck

[cosmic cosmos]

son

[fiery crow]

son 😭

[plush nacelle]

Of course problem has to be nanuq and not second desmostylian known from mandible or asian bird not from alaska 🗿

[cosmic cosmos]

i dont do mammals or birds tbf

[fiery crow]

that’s where the cool
Stuff is imo

[cosmic cosmos]

mammalia might be the worst group of animals

[peak hazel]

🤨

[fiery crow]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[cosmic cosmos]

at least among vertebrates

[plush nacelle]

Mammals are so good at their job some members of our clade need to switch to reptile side out of pity 😔

[cosmic cosmos]

nah, mammals are just not that interesting to me

some are cool but most are just mid

[peak hazel]

I think vro hasn't been paying attention

[cosmic cosmos]

paying attention to what lol

[peak hazel]

The cool mammals

We have quite a few cool ones today

[plush nacelle]

Big, if true

My favourite mammal is penguin

[peak hazel]

Fair fair

Very interesting mammal

[cosmic cosmos]

hmmm

[wary nacelle]

honestly I just wanna make a section in my zoo along the lines of the theme “Icy places before the Ice Age” and I’ve been meaning to find some sort of terrarium animal to go with and it has been so hard because believe it or not all basically reptiles and amphibians cannot live in cold temperatures and all the mammals from these formations are the size of dormice. Anyway cut to the chase Aurorachelys even tho I could gaf less about this animals but it’s cool and I could use it as like background

[hard elbow]

If you think any animal is "mid" you're doing it wrong

[peak hazel]

truing

[hard elbow]

"XYZ animal is mid because I don't like them" -cringe ass take

"Nature as a whole is incredible and there is something to be appreciated in every organism, not just on its own, but especially in the context of the ecosystem of which it is a part and the conditions that led it to evolve as it did" -the based, correct take

[peak hazel]

I think reptiles are a more interesting group overall but mammals are still cool

[hard elbow]

Yeah, nothing wrong with a preference

But that doesn't make the other groups mid or less deserving of appreciation

[peak hazel]

also 100% if some animals we have today were extinct the same people calling them "mid" would be in agreement that they're weird freaks

imagine we had no living whales, elephants or giraffes and we dug one up

[hard elbow]

I am much more of a reptile girlie, mammals have never been my favorite group, but I still think they're cool in their own way

[hard elbow]

Whales are some of the craziest shit vertebrates have ever produced honestly

If they were extinct people would go nuts for them

[peak hazel]

they're already some of my favourite animals

favourite mammal is the Cachalot its really cool

[hard elbow]

Because like. What the fuck. What do you mean the weird pig aardvark thing became a giant torpedo that sees with sound and has some of the most complex social behavior among the entire animal kingdom

[peak hazel]

I wonder how much bizarre stuff similar animals like ichthyosaurs did that just doesn't fossilise

[hard elbow]

Probably a decent amount

Like, shit, we're still learning a lot about sociality and behavior in extant reptiles/animals in general

People are just now figuring out that blue tongued skinks take care of their young for a period

[peak hazel]

helps that the intelligence of reptiles has been overlooked until recently

[cosmic cosmos]

reptiles have been criminally understudied and underestimated for essentially the entirey of animals sciences history

[hard elbow]

Yep

But the key thing here: that doesn't make mammals mid

[mint creek]

I fucking love giraffes, what a bunch of bloody weirdos. The fact they look so gangly makes them cooler than sauropods to me.

[peak hazel]

I think sauropods have more aura

but doesn't mean giraffes are lame

[hard elbow]

They're both interesting in their own ways yeah

Seeing a giraffe scratches a different itch to sauropods for me

[peak hazel]

they do similar things in an incredibly different way

[hard elbow]

giraffes are hella cool the way they deal with blood circulation is really interesting

[peak hazel]

nature found to be fascinating

[hard elbow]

Iirc the military has studied them for use in fighter plane pilot suits, so the pilots don't have blood pooling in their legs at high speeds

Which like. If that's not cool as fuck idk what is

[peak hazel]

no its lame because they're a mammal and therefore mid

duh

[hard elbow]

Lmfao

[mint creek]

Giraffes clear, look at 'em go https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/654808946066063363/1339665075690278984/giraffe.mp4?ex=6a193293&is=6a17e113&hm=5799e91d14ef74cb4c4aaa3f1ecf03bbf3e3cd06594584db8418c177d1690798&

[hard elbow]

The further I go with my education and the more I do actual scientific research, the more I come to loathe the way some people think about animals

[peak hazel]

worst thing for an animal is someone thinking its mid or boring

thats how they go silently extinct

[hard elbow]

Like I'm out there looking at a buncha tiny amphipods and such and I'm overcome by the sheer beauty of nature

Nobody ever talks about plankton but there's some crazy cool shit going on there

[mint creek]

The way most people don't think of insects as animals annoys me

[peak hazel]

I don't know my invertebrates that well which is a me problem

[hard elbow]

Most isopods living in the continental US today are invasive, and there are untold numbers of tiny decomposers that have gone extinct or have become endangered due to them

[mint creek]

I feel like people just want to feel less bad about stepping on them

[hard elbow]

Not to mention your bog standard earthworms aren't native here either

[peak hazel]

so I've heard

[hard elbow]

Nature has thousands of wonderful stories to tell for those with the ears to listen

this is your daily tropicola PSA. Remember to like and subscribe for more good nature takes

[peak hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-like-and-subscribe-gif-11625085781112065707

[mint creek]

We need Macrauchenia and Sivatherium to help fill out the mid mammals niche

[peak hazel]

truing

Acrophyseter as well

[feral cedar]

Desmostylus and Steller’s sea cow deserve better than to be used as filler for an Alaskan DLC. Also, Dromaeosaurus proper is Canadian, we only suppose that the Prince Creek dromie might belong to the genus

[fiery crow]

May 29, Skorpiovenator bustingorryi. One of the most complete abelisaurids discovered, Skorpiovenator lived in the Late Cretaceous in the Huincul Formation of Argentina.

[low bridge]

We need that

That would be Dope

[ancient ibex]

The Rio Limay abelisaurs are quite cool

[burnt shore]

I cant wait for beelzebufo to appear one day

[true pivot]

It’s such an easy choice to arrive with the Wetlands update that I almost can’t believe it won’t happen

But I feel the same way about the big bugs

[fiery crow]

was it really that big or is that just a size exaggeration

[flint sable]

probably an exagerration

length is probably about accurate but it looks obese

the closest modern size analaogue is approximately the chilean giant frog

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calyptocephalella

[sinful coyote]

it's a lovely frog and i very much want it ingame. it's just not as big as people tend to think it is

[slim flare]

Probably the only frog PK can ever have

Unless that Eocene monster turns up more, diagnostic remains

[alpine thicket]

There's certainly other prehistoric frogs but none of them are remotely worth it, Beelzebufo isn't a priority for me at all but I wouldn't mind it either.

[fiery crow]

there are better amphibians

[alpine thicket]

Well yeah, but I actually don't think it occupies the same real estate as them in terms of choices.

most of them are not at all frog-like.

[burnt shore]

Adding on to my previous Enantiornithes suggestions, here's plumadraco

[tidal flame]

Carolina Parakeets would be a cool recently extinct vivarium species, especially if they give both of the subspecies

[rigid spindle]

I'm 90% sure it was confirmed for a recently extinct dlc if the game sells well

[kindred jacinth]

i'll buy every copy if i have to

[tidal flame]

That’d be sweet

[rigid spindle]

I did a bit of research on the Carolina parakeet recently and now I'm sad that they went extinct before I even existed

[tidal flame]

Passenger pigeons and other recently extinct birds would be amazing

[rigid spindle]

Boy do I have good news for you

Passenger pigeon was also confirmed for the dlc along with the moa (possibly 2 species)

[flint sable]

???

2 moas arent confirmed

passenger pigeon is confirmed

[sinful coyote]

not confirmed but speculated based on the blurry list

[rigid spindle]

Oh

[flint sable]

just the genus dinornis is

it could technically be both species

but all thats officially confirmed is just the genus

[crimson burrow]

Hear me out: Diabloceratops and Giganotosaurus

[low bridge]

Hear me out too: Acinonyx Pleistocaenicus

[crimson burrow]

Should also add my favourite spinosaurus sub species: mirabilis

[cosmic cosmos]

spinosaurus has no subspecies

i hate PoT for doing this

[lean hound]

mirabilis is a species not a subspecies

[crimson burrow]

Oh. Im stupid mb

but still its a pretty cool species

[outer crater]

btw subspecies is only denoted by the 3rd name, if there is one present. The first name is always genus and the second name is species

Example: Panthera tigris = species. Panthera tigris sondaica = subspecies

[slim flare]

Hear me out: Giraffititan and Kentrosaurus

[low bridge]

I want to be heared out: Polacanthus and Concavenator

[crimson burrow]

OOOH aight aight

[crimson burrow]

Continue shouting PEAK

[crimson burrow]

we gotta get the mirabilis i know i said it before but MAN its peak

[silver steeple]

Meh

It's neat

But I wouldn't really say it's peak by any means

Certainly not above aegypticus

[crimson burrow]

Unicorn.

Anyways hear me out: yutyrannus

[mint creek]

Hell yeah

[crimson burrow]

We also gotta add the potato diabloceratops man

[feral cedar]

Diabloceratops is a pretty cool addition but man, the fourth centrosaurine and still no signs of a nodosaurid in the horizon hurts

I know Edmontonia is speculated but I need to see it with my own two eyes

[mint creek]

Chasmosaurus is my most wanted ceratopsid (after other clades are filled out a bit more)

[feral cedar]

Chasmosaurus or Pentaceratops to help balance out the big-frilled brow-horned side of the family

[mint creek]

Penta's a good shout too. I think my reasoning for Chasmosaurus over others is that it's a chamosaur on the smaller side which balances out Triceratops.

Also Dinosaur Park rep my beloved

[crimson burrow]

We gotta have kosmocerstops, chasmoceratops, diabloceratops as new ceratopsians

[low bridge]

What about Old good: Einiosaurus, Centrosaurus??

[mint creek]

Centrosaurus probably isn't needed but I'll admit I'd like it just because I think Dinosaur Park is a really cool formation

idk much about Einiosaurus though

[cosmic cosmos]

centrosaurus would be a good shout in an alt DLC

giraffatitan, centrosaurus, protoceratops h, spinosaurus s, etc

[low bridge]

Indeed

Skorpiovenator is the most complete Abelisaurid so I suggest Him

[mint creek]

What do you think of Majungasaurus EZ

[low bridge]

It is Neat

[crimson burrow]

Imo never really liked it

[ancient ibex]

In-between Styraco and Pachyrhino

[low bridge]

We NEED THEM

[cosmic cosmos]

i think carnotautus + majungasaurus with a rajasaurus alt would be a perfect abelisaurid lineup, rugops or skorpiovenator would be nice extras tho

[mint creek]

the enflattening evolution

[low bridge]

Micrauchenia, Xenorhinotherium, Theosodon would Fit in Prehistoric Kingdom?

[crimson burrow]

We gotta have utahraptor in this

[trail moth]

i don't doubt we will