Community Species Suggestions

[flint sable]

this is not acceptable

no

no

glyptodongs have no reason to be able to do that

I deny it

but theres other armadillos that can tho

[toxic oriole]

GlyptoWHAT now?

[flint sable]

sorry

glyptodon

not reffering to that one paleoart piece

thats a glyptodong

[final yarrow]

if that was a genuine typo im dying laughing XD

[flint sable]

#science-chat message

[flint sable]

it wasnt

[flint sable]

dont say I didnt warn you

[median relic]

those hands weren't just for walking

[flint sable]

before you look at it

[median relic]

manhandling stone age humans

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mad-beat-up-mad-af-fight-me-gif-5761415199957404115

[median relic]

oh I know the one

let me guess

is it HodariNundu's glyptodon trying to mate with a tortoise?

[flint sable]

CORRECT

[median relic]

wait

I came up with glyptodong then LOL

[toxic oriole]

You can put any number in there, and it'll give you a random select following the input number

[brisk spruce]

Would make for an interesting terrarium guy

[flint sable]

I mean

we already have Yi Qi coming

which is a Scansoriopterygid

so

[brisk spruce]

As would this guy

[tidal flame]

Thoughts on Thrinaxodon as a terrestrial terrarium species

Like a prairie dog or a meerkat

[sharp plinth]

Classic

[desert flame]

If Thrinaxodon is added, I hope it will use a walking with dinasaurs -themed skin.

[left spear]

It's a mini, It will only have a single skin, better to do something more original

I would really like a steppe polecat skin

[restive eagle]

what about ancient bison...

[sharp plinth]

Gigantoraptor erlianensis would be a good pick because we already have a store brand named after it

[ancient ibex]

Imagine the steaks

[outer moth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/173172667623407616/1402279759534362674/deltarune-prophecy_1.gif

[tidal flame]

This idea is peak

[late swallow]

An interesting critter

[shell sonnet]

worth mentioning that Thrinaxodon lived in what is now South Africa during the early Triassic at latest. Whatever the cynodont is in WWD, it's not Thrinaxodon

[outer crater]

It's confirmed

[hollow flower]

Semi confirmed

[restive eagle]

wdym?

[hollow flower]

It was in the old early access list which means it probably will come to the game at some point

However as far as I know there hasnt been much else said about it

[hollow furnace]

There has been

It was the entire deal with us getting the post EA ideas list, Mau showing that bison was planned for post EA

[hollow flower]

Fair enough

[desert flame]

Really?I was wrong.

[short rover]

It was not

Latifrons and priscus were

Neither of which are the “ancient bison” or Bos bison antiquus

Which I much prefer anyways

[hollow flower]

Im not exactly an expert on all the different bison variants

I thought all of them were ancient considering all of them are dead

[shell sonnet]

Bos antiquus

bos latifrons

bos priscus

different enough animals

[late swallow]

Bison bison and Bison bonasus are extant

[American Bison and European Bison, respectively]

[steep tulip]

insane hump

[late swallow]

There's a joke to be had here

[silver steeple]

*Bos bison and Bos bonasus

[shell sonnet]

It's really a case of WWD being dishonest. The WWD team clearly wanted to get an early mammal-like animal into the Triassic story because they wanted to tell a bit of the story of where mammals came from (WWD sadly has a very old view that even without the meotor the dinosaurs would have been replaced by mammals). But, were no epicynodonts discovered in Chinle before 1999, so they forced an animal from elsewhere into the story. Though I don't remember if it's actually called Thrinaxodon in WWD, so this might be a case of the BBC retroactively adding the name like with Austrlovenator

[ancient ibex]

Bison is in wide usage despite being nested within traditional Bos, and without really big differences or distance; historical interbreeding, and the lack of cultural distinction between wisent and aurochs, are good arguments for the lumping, but...

[shell sonnet]

either that or extend the definition of bison to other parts of Bos

[ancient ibex]

The type of Bos is the earliest diverging member; monotypic Bos and every other cattle as Bison is IMO a worse choice

[silver steeple]

Wikipedia takes a long time to update their taxonomy definitively

[shell sonnet]

it's been like that for decades

[silver steeple]

The dire wolf page wasn't updated to Aenocyon from Canis for over a year after the huge genome paper came out

[shell sonnet]

decades is more than a year

[silver steeple]

Ok

That's not my point

I was providing evidence using a similar case

If we really wanna use Wikipedia tho, it literally discusses it further down the page lol

[digital pendant]

guys dont argue over taxonomy on this chat please, its an unnecessary derail and doesnt offer anything, you can take it to #science-chat if you wish

lets try keep this thread a bit cleaner

[silver steeple]

Aight

[steep tulip]

Wikipedia mentions it as a subgenus

I still have to understand what that means ngl

[late swallow]

Thanks for the repeated info

[restive eagle]

what have i started

[silver steeple]

Basically just means it forms a smaller group within a genus

[steep tulip]

Np, always glad to help when it comes to not read convos and repeat info

[shell sonnet]

you opened the gates of hell by introducing a lesser quality mammal suggestion

[steep tulip]

Ah, so just because essentially

[silver steeple]

Eh

[restive eagle]

ancient bison disrespect wont be tolerated

[silver steeple]

Bison form a genuine group

Said group is just also within the bos genus

[digital pendant]

guys dont make me repeat myself

[silver steeple]

Yeah lets scoot to #science-chat

[shell sonnet]

Not disrespect, honesty

[slim flare]

That’s 100% wrong. There was cynodont remains from the Chinle Formation but they were unnamed at the time, so BBC called it only a cynodont. It has never been called a Thrinaxodon, that’s a myth.

[sharp dock]

The myth, the legend

[shell sonnet]

The cynodont is based on Thrinaxodon
as seen in Walking with Dinosaurs: A Natural History. Notably the two teeth mentioned here are likely that of Kraterokheirodon; which was found in 1946 and remained in Colbert's possession but got lost until 2002 and were not described 2005. Kraterokheirodon teeth are not enough classify the animal as a cynodont though upon later discovery. The only other cynodont remains found/described before 1999 belong to a Traversodontid, which are part of the group of the group of cynodonts that have no relationship with mammals.

[slim flare]

Yes

[slim flare]

Steppe hyena supremacy

[hollow flower]

Aquatic invertebrates I would like to see in the game

[plush nacelle]

Would love ammonites

Small prehistoric aquarium would rock, but sadly people focus mostly on the biggest and most famous animals out there

[low bridge]

Steppe Hyena is something that we need for Steppe animals like Bison Priscus, Wooly Mammoth, Coelodonta, Cave Bear

[slim flare]

Yes but cave bears were not steppe animals

[low bridge]

Oh my bad

Hope for Cenozoic to get more weirdos like Prolibytherium, Sivatherium, Sinclairomeryx, Kyptoceras, Synthetoceras

Age of mammals

[somber sedge]

Why did the devs say they weren’t adding primates? I was hoping for Gigantopithecus.

[low bridge]

Tbh Dinocerats, Bronthotheres are too good but hope for Devs to add them in Dlcs

[low bridge]

We have guests

[somber sedge]

You know what I mean

[low bridge]

Maybe expensive or what

Animating etc

[median relic]

YEESS

[late swallow]

Actually it's the age of ants

[shell sonnet]

Age of Bacteria

[low bridge]

Age of Plants

[restive eagle]

Age of Ice

[left spear]

Age of Empires

[flint sable]

Age of Life

[late bobcat]

Age of Extinction

[modern totem]

Age of Atoms

[flint sable]

Age of Matter

[final yarrow]

i wonder why

why

of the

age

the age

thats

how

this is confusing guys

[smoky spear]

Cow feeder let’s go

[hollow furnace]

based

[low bridge]

Liushu pack:
Chilotherium
Dinocrocuta
Tsaidamotherium
Paraelasmotherium

[sharp dock]

Age of Sigmar: Realms of Ruin

oh shoot I got late 💀

[left spear]

Man the Seraphon would be very nice, making an exhibit for Lord Kroak would be a blast

[low bridge]

Africa is continent of wonders so we need for grassland: Ancylotherium, Sivatherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Deinotherium

[full quartz]

wonder if we will see an extinct ape in the future, id love to see a Gigantopithecus

[final yarrow]

i think the devs said no

because it’d be hard to animate and generally difficult to spend that much time on individual apes for animations and interactions or something

[plain knoll]

it would be wierd to see primates

[late swallow]

I think a lot of it had to do with facial animations

[outer crater]

L gigantopithicus

[shell sonnet]

I mean I wouldn't mind something like Notharctus tenebrosus showing up as a mini

[hollow flower]

Id like to see Dinopithecus

[low bridge]

Finally some good pick

Eh i think that we need more grassland mammals

Idc if Dinopithecus is related to Baboon we need him

[flint sable]

I kinda think we probably wont see any large primates ever

[late swallow]

Idk, I feel weird about keeping primates in zoos

[flint sable]

since even large monkeys and hell even lemurs they would have the same issues with animations

[late swallow]

But morals aside I'd rather giganto

[flint sable]

the most I could see would be a mini primiate

like a tarsier or Darwinius or something like that

[low bridge]

Heh primates are going to be watched by horde of other primates

[shell sonnet]

is it possible we can suggest primates that are more than just parts of the skull

[flint sable]

thats true for gigantopithicus and dinopithicus

and that sounds like a pretty good idea

especially dinopithicus

since lets be honest

its basically just a slightly larger modern baboon

[hollow furnace]

no

[flint sable]

and probably wasnt even more carnivorous than modern baboons are

[shell sonnet]

Paleodb suggests it ate leaves and fruit

[steep tulip]

Archaeoindris

[plush nacelle]

Darwinius is peak

[steep tulip]

True

[shell sonnet]

the hype and fallout that surrounded Darwinius at the time of its announcement has kind of killed my interest in it

[steep tulip]

When was it discovered?

Thought it was a very old discovery

[shell sonnet]

2009

[steep tulip]

Damn
Idk, I think it's a neat little critter

[flint sable]

what does the discovery date of Darwinius have to do with it not being interesting

[plush nacelle]

Archicebus would be good

[shell sonnet]

just read the wiki article

[flint sable]

its basically the replacement for Ptilotodus once we figured out it wasnt a primate in the slightest on the evolutionary line of things

[plush nacelle]

Silly tarsier-like critter

[flint sable]

obtained somewhat unethically sure

but not nearly as bad as some other species

and its still a signifigant fossil

[steep tulip]

Idk, was just curious as of why there was hype around darwinius since I thought it was like an early 20th century discovery or something

[flint sable]

basically it was broken into a few pieces, sold individually, and re assembled in 2007

and then named 2 years after the fact

[flint sable]

also it was discovered at an amateur excavation

[shell sonnet]

you'd have to be there at the time of its announcement when it was getting all kinds of press coverage because the Hurum and his team were hyping it as the missing link; turns out it's not even close to being one

[flint sable]

was was discovered all the way back in 1983

[flint sable]

not a missing link between humans and anything no

its kind of a missing link between primates and other mammals just because how basal it is

actually yeah nvm

basically mainland lemurs

[obtuse oar]

I NEED pk to add at least one Phorusrhacid, preferably Titanis.

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Darwinius still peak

Messel monke for messel house in PK

[austere sparrow]

I would kill to be able to make a Messel house ngl

[plush nacelle]

Horse gastornis mixed exhibit

Small leptictidium area

Darwinius climbing over heads

[austere sparrow]

My beloved glupshitto addition for Messel is Eocoracias

A Stem-roller whose coloration we know!

...Or. Mostly inferred since the fossil isn't complete.

Please do not point out that it just looks like a modern roller that would ruin the magic

Actually, this isn't even that bad, huh xP

Messel has some beautiful fossils. Here's Messelornis, the Messel rail

[plush nacelle]

My favourite glupshitto would be heterohyus - weird aye-aye mimic

[austere sparrow]

They do a graceful steppy

Also falcons were apparently doing this in Messel. (Masillaraptor). I kiiinda want it, but I fully recognize that it's just the budget version of a tiny Phorosracid

Also here's Heterohyus

Would be a great addition for a "I can't believe it's not primates" DLC

[restive eagle]

id like a monkey

thatd be tuff

[austere sparrow]

This thing is a basal Euarchontoglire. So I think "shrew" fits it kinda. Congrats Heterohyus, I dub thee the Aye-aye shrew

Monkey. Yes

Messel has this. Lemur-thing. Darwinius. Not quite a monkey but. Close...?

Now here's a classic (I think?). Eurotamandua. A nekkid Pangolin.

[late swallow]

It's lemur-like

[austere sparrow]

Ludwig the holy blade (from Bloodborne) is pregante

(Eurohippus, aka Eohippus but ur-opean)

[late swallow]

Honse

[austere sparrow]

Speaking of honse, here's the WWB honse (that is secretly not a honse), Propalaeotherium! Finally something that might actually have a shot at appearing ingame

Doesn't this guy run a kiosk or something 🤔

[slim flare]

Was that found in amber?

[austere sparrow]

I. Do not know

I found it in a courtyard personally

[late swallow]

[shell sonnet]

Four suggestions for cenozoic minis:
Ceratogaulus hatcheri the horned gopher
Notharctus tenebrosus an early primate,
Deinogalerix koenigswaldi a sharp-toothed shrew-like beast
Indohyus major an early whale ancestor.
Just need a fifth

[hollow flower]

The humble Leptictidium:

Seriously though I love Leptictidium

Top 5 minis I want to see in the game

[feral cedar]

it’s time to look for noteworthy extinct primates known from more than the skull

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-tai-lung-empty-scroll-it's-nothing-no-hay-nada-gif-4040111734232253217

[shell sonnet]

I've mentioned one for a mini with Notharctus; I do like Leptictidium as option for a mini,as well

[plush nacelle]

Pliopithecus is really good

[hollow flower]

While not a primate Suminia definetly has the feel of a primate

[plush nacelle]

Or oreopithecus

[shell sonnet]

oreopithecus seems fine, Pliopithecus seems to be just a piece of the jaw

[median relic]

megaladapis my goat

[brittle swift]

Therizinosaurus would be cool in a danse swamp habitat

or pachycephalosaurus would be cool to and it can be added with stigimolok and draycorex as diffrent skins or spiecis if it end up to be the same dinosaurs

[steep tulip]

The arboreal terrarium lizard
Trust

[final yarrow]

Pachy is almost confirmed

[late swallow]

Likely to be P. wyomingensis and P. or S. spinifer

[feral cedar]

Why is there a 👍 react 😭

[hollow furnace]

it's pkdino, they just do that

[feral cedar]

I mean I've seen pkdino react to suggestions which is just an expression of agreement

what's there to thumbs up here 😭

[digital pendant]

I dont know how is that relevant at all to this chat

Plus you can disable react notifications btw

[late swallow]

Probably meant as a whole to the message before it

[late swallow]

I'd reckon because it happened in this chat and penguin got confused

[digital pendant]

Yep is nothing really out of the extraordinary

[feral cedar]

What would be a good second stegosaur after Stegosaurus itself?

I feel like you can't go wrong with Kentrosaurus the small spiky boy

[late swallow]

Kentro for sure, but I think Huayangosaurus or similar could also do

[feral cedar]

Huayangosaurus would be cool, though personally I think Tuojiangosaurus is a better huayangosaurid rep and Gigantspinosaurus covers that general size range while also coming packaged with some impressive shoulder spikes

[late swallow]

Love gigantspino

[feral cedar]

But it'd be fun to have the JWE Asian stego trio as they always should've been; smol gigantspino and huayango, with Chungkingosaurus reverted to the first game's size and renamed to Tuojiangosaurus

Peak

Side note, why didn't they go for Tuojiangosaurus from the get-go? Chunky's main distinguishing feature from Tuo is being TINY which... well, all stegosaurs were oversized but chunky didn't even get to be the smallest of the five

And it wouldn't have even been a crime for them to simply go into the files and rename it to Tuojiangosaurus since the two are so similar already

what if PK had six main stego slots; three small ones, three big ones. Stego, Tuo, a dacentrurine, Kentro, Gigantspino, Huayango

[late swallow]

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing Dacentrurus

[feral cedar]

I would love Dacentrurus ngl

[late swallow]

I feel that one has the better pull than Miragaia's bespecled past

[feral cedar]

Miragaia is "better" for me mostly because of two things

1. It directly shares a formation with the European species of Torvosaurus and Allosaurus, which means we'd get to unite them both with an herbivore and provide a neat bit of synergy
2. I do believe that regardless of classification, the material for Miragaia has a VERY long neck, like very very long. Only by using this species can we get that EXACT neck

[slim flare]

Dacentrurus has no neck material?

[feral cedar]

I know

but Miragaia is THE neck

[slim flare]

But they’re effectively the same, if not the same

[feral cedar]

They're very similar animals but from what I can see in this image, anatomically, Miragaia is like... I guess you could say "nicer"?

[slim flare]

That’s probably all artistic license really

[feral cedar]

Damn

Now that's a bias if I've ever seen one lol

[slim flare]

Are you talking about me?

[feral cedar]

no

the artist

On the other hand I do think Dacentrurus has the better name of the two - "tail full of points" vs. "Miragaia"

[shell sonnet]

Tuojiango isn't a huaygangosaurid

[hollow flower]

Im on team Miragaia

Dacentrurus in my eyes has always been mid compared to it

[slim flare]

What I will say is whatever Miragaia is classified as, we need that because of it’s formation.

[slim flare]

The only difference is the name

[late swallow]

Filling out Laurinhã is a great thing to see, just as Nemegt and Djadochta are getting

[hollow flower]

To me it feels like calling Trex Manospondylus

But thats just me

I just prefer Miragaia

[late swallow]

Nobody does that

[shell sonnet]

Mira is the one we've got evidence for the long neck and the formation is a nice benefit; especially because S. ungulatus is also said to be in that region

[plush nacelle]

Tru. Giant lemur would be goated

[slim flare]

Nemegt and Djadochta have only 3 species each

[late swallow]

It's a start ;;

[slim flare]

Your word was “filled out” smh

[late swallow]

If devs do implement one of Mau's favourite hadrosaurs, that's another for Nemegt [Saurolophus]

[shell sonnet]

Even Dinosaur Park has only 3 species

[hollow flower]

Saurolophus my beloved

[shell sonnet]

Morrison, Hell Creek and Tokod are the only ones with more than 3 species

[slim flare]

Stay winning

They’re the only ones I consider viable for ecosystems

[feral cedar]

Where did the Tokod Formation even come from

[shell sonnet]

Hungary

[slim flare]

Mammoth steppe

[feral cedar]

What about Dinosaur Park?

[shell sonnet]

we only have 3

and they're all large herbivores

[slim flare]

Literally has no predators, wtf do you think?

[feral cedar]

Gorgosaurus

[shell sonnet]

Not in game

[feral cedar]

Oh we're considering viability to only be in-game species?

[slim flare]

Yes

[shell sonnet]

At this point yeah

[feral cedar]

I see

[slim flare]

Otherwise every ecosystem is viable

[feral cedar]

To be fair Albertosaurus is probably the best candidate for our second full slot tyrannosaur and giving it a Gorgosaurus alternate genus is a given served on a silver platter

[slim flare]

Sure but I’m looking short term

Instead of dreaming

[feral cedar]

Even if we ONLY get Albertosaurus it's still a good proxy species cause it's like borderline identical and it could easily fill the same exact niche

[slim flare]

Even if Gorgosaurus is added, Dinosaur Park is purely “Hell Creek but worse”

[shell sonnet]

Hell Creek really just needs Pachy, Lepto, Thescelo, and either Ornithomimus velox or Struthimimus sedens (with altus being the main one) and then it's good (Anzu would be a good addition but that's a stretch goal)

[slim flare]

Anzu and Nanotyrannus:

[shell sonnet]

Morrison needs Steg, Allo, Dippy, Cerato, Campto and Orinothelestes

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17349365856782341010

You take that back

[slim flare]

Gorgosaurus - Tyrannosaurus
Para and Lambeo - Edmontosaurus
Styracosaurus - Triceratops
No one - Ankylosaurus

It gets worse if/when Pachycephalosaurus is added

Hell Creek is the same clades but with more of them

[feral cedar]

There aren't more ankylosaurids in Hell Creek

[shell sonnet]

Denversaurus

[feral cedar]

ankylosaurids you fucking ox

[slim flare]

There’s 0 in Dinosaur Park right now

Hence Hell Creek has more clades

[feral cedar]

damn it

To be honest though some DP species make good second members of clades of HC species

Hence why I think DP will eventually be more complete

[slim flare]

How

You just said it’d be good second members from HC

HC is more diverse

Anymore added would go in both

HC remains more diverse

[shell sonnet]

the only animal that's generally assumed to come for DP is Edmontonia

And i don't think that one is particularly high

[slim flare]

And if it get’s a Denversaurus alt…

[shell sonnet]

the biggest edge DP has over HC would be in Maniraptors: Stenonychosaurus (all Troodontid fossils in HC are teeth) and Dromaeosaurus (because HC's comparisons are a mess)

[steep tulip]

Dacentrurus is the first stegosaur ever discovered and competes with stego as the biggest

They will never make me hate you dacentrurus...

[plush nacelle]

Dinosaur Park has funny freshwater plesiosaur

[slim flare]

Pretty much yeah

But they’ll never have anything small enough to eat…

[shell sonnet]

Regnosaurus and Paranthodon came first

[steep tulip]

First stegosaur that isn't known form 2 scraps ever discovered

[shell sonnet]

I mean they're not much different than V-raptor in size

[shell sonnet]

you saying this isn't scraps

[slim flare]

In their ecosystem

[shell sonnet]

Okay there's more for Dacenturus's holotype

[toxic oriole]

Isnt Dacentrurus older than Miragaia in terms of naming?
I know I am late

[toxic oriole]

From what I know, first published name gets priority, so instead of losing Dacentrurus, Miragaia disappears!!!

[steep tulip]

Yep, this isn't really what I would call scraps

Tho this skeletal a bit weird

[shell sonnet]

we don't actually know if they are the same; heck we don't know if the Spanish dacentrurus finds are the same as the British one

[steep tulip]

Polacanthus is known for less, still want it tho

[shell sonnet]

that's just WWD nostalgia

[steep tulip]

Could be yeah
But I think there's worth in having polcanthus ingame
Maybe as an alt, or having alts of closely related species

[late swallow]

Polacanthus is cool

But Sauropelta cooler

[late swallow]

Yeah, outside of some fringe cases [like Manospondylus being senior to Tyrannosaurus, but being dubbed indet. Instead of synonymous]

[steep tulip]

Well it doesn't disappear
It becomes a junior synonym

You could argue its basically the same

But there's a bit of difference

[shell sonnet]

Mira/Dacenturus really is a feud between scientists any way; really the first step should be to confirm that what's been classified as D. armatus in Spain is actually close enough to the D. armatus findings in the UK

[ancient ibex]

It is recovered as so quite often

[amber field]

Quinkana for normal animal and Mekosuchus for mini

[left spear]

Tbh i could see Meko as a full exhibit

It only really needs to be able to climb

[slim flare]

Isn’t Meko tiny

[left spear]

It's still like 1.5m long

[amber field]

I saaw it's size , that's true lol

Don't know if this accurate

[left spear]

Around there yeah

[slim flare]

It’s apparently estimated between 1-2 m in length

[left spear]

Big enough imo

[amber field]

velo size

[left spear]

And for a climbing croc It would be such a shame to have It as a mini

[amber field]

Maybe we will get some climbing enrichment for some animals

[plush nacelle]

Isnt mekosuchus climbing paleomeme?

[left spear]

Arboreal yes

[plush nacelle]

Then it doesnt need climbing

[amber field]

I think , but there multiples species with different sizes
like this cute one

[left spear]

But there's nothing saying It couldn't climb, if anything its body plan is quite good climbing

And besides It wouldn't be the first "paleomeme" in the Game, just let It climb in some enrichments

[plush nacelle]

This is the one people want since it is from new caledonia

[amber field]

yes

but still big animal

[steep tulip]

Tbh it probably wasn't climbing much

It was more terrestrial than your average croc yes, but it doesn't have the adaptations you would find in a climbing animal
Afaik

[left spear]

I don't see why It wouldn't climb as much as reptiles of the size, besides crocodiles already have arboreal tendencies otherwise

[steep tulip]

Well obviously it could still climb, just it wasn't necessary for its lifestyle and idk how often it would have done it
Imo meko for terrariums works well, but getting it as full exhibit wouldn't be bad also, considering we also could get alts

The other species of mekosuchus from the miocene went full sebecosuchian on the skull lol

Tho ngl

I fear it might be a lumping issue and the 2 weren't all that closely related actually

[feral cedar]

I heard we have undescribed Pectinodon fossils that AREN’T teeth

[amber field]

tbh if we got the cute one I would be happy

[steep tulip]

Which one is the cute one

Inexpectatus?

That's the one that survived until the holocene, so I would say pretty likely

There's another species but it's known from scrappier remains

[final yarrow]

i think in terms of stegosaurids after Stego

Miragaia with Dacentrurus alt

and like

a huayangosaurid

cus other than that i’d like to see some nodosaurids or ankykosaurids too

besides uhh

edmontonia

hylaeosaurus would be cool

[final yarrow]

what are these names lol

it looks like mr. whitehunterensis and mr. inexpectatus

[austere sparrow]

Is it called whitehunterensis because it is a hunter who is white or...? 🤔

[tidal flame]

RIP Dakotaraptor

I just remembered that

[final yarrow]

its hunterbone is white

idfk

[austere sparrow]

Turned it into turtle soup... Fucked up

[final yarrow]

why is it called that

[final yarrow]

wait dakotaraptor is a turtle? 😭

[tidal flame]

Got friggin turned into minced meat

[shell sonnet]

it's a chimera, but the main parts are turtle

[final yarrow]

hahaha

turt

[steep tulip]

Its possibly a chimera of 4/5 animals

[tidal flame]

Would like more recently extinct like the Pink Headed Duck and White Swamphen

[quick ore]

I feel like there are better extinct ducks and rails to choose over those

[tidal flame]

True, just throwing something out there

[quick ore]

like the moa nalo species of Hawaii, the various flightless ducks of NZ to accompany the moas, and the Adzebills that would do the same

[tidal flame]

Didn’t know there were flightless ducks

[neat iris]

I wonder if they’ll give us giant swans to go with the dwarf elephants

[late swallow]

-ensis means 'from' or 'of a place'

Name derives from the White Hunter Site, the type locality of the species

[feral cedar]

How appropriate would it be to give Concavenator an alt?

Neovenator. Remove the sail, upsize a bit, done

[steep tulip]

That's would be like giving baryonyx an eustreptospondylus alt

[feral cedar]

?

How so

[steep tulip]

Well probably not as bad actually

[feral cedar]

Both of them are basal relatively small carcharodontosaurs from the Barremian of Europe, with comparable sizes all things considered

[steep tulip]

Pretty sure neovenator is often found to not be a carcha

[feral cedar]

I'm pretty sure neovenatorids are not very stable as a group

Where's Cau's theropod phylo paper

[toxic oriole]

I would like Neovenator only for this reason:
Rivalry.

Baryonyx and Neovenator or something

I know Bary is probably coming later down the line

[austere sparrow]

Disgusting: PK users want these outwardly identical animals as alts despite the fact that they're not sister taxa

[steep tulip]

Neovenator is nothing like carcha idk what you talking about 🗣️ 🗣️

If allosaurs all kinda look the same its not my fault

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-that-guy-spiderman-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-spiderverse-kingpin-gif-20437897

[feral cedar]

he... deleted it

the only link I have leads to a 404 error

[silver steeple]

Fwiw, Cau's matrix is far from perfect, or even great

[steep tulip]

Yeah

[feral cedar]

there we go, now what did that annoyingly rude doofus say about carchs?

[silver steeple]

My understanding is that Neovenatorids normally end up as carchs/carch adjacent in the good phylos

[feral cedar]

-# Yeah so maybe Cau isn't that great of a source

disregard him 🤓

There goes my greatest argument in favor of conc & neo duo as alts

[austere sparrow]

Your greatest argument remains "they look outwardly near identical" just fyi 😔

[steep tulip]

There were some that recovered it as a carcha tho
They are all pretty old and as I said, I think it's more often found to be monotypic/nested outside the group

[feral cedar]

Isn't that mostly what we use as criteria for alts though

I mean some people here have suggested some truly diabolical alt ideas before

Someone here once said Kentrosaurus as a Stegosaurus alt

Even if kentro and stego were more similar-looking, there's not a single universe where kentro doesn't deserve the full 3 skin treatment

[steep tulip]

For a lot of people stegosaurs are all kinda the same unfortunately

[feral cedar]

even the devs

[steep tulip]

Dw
Kentrosaurus u19, they listened to my prayers

[feral cedar]

Dromaeosaurus as a mini Utahraptor for alts is something I'd personally not mind at all

[steep tulip]

Not sure how closely related they are, but dromeo is quite different from utah proportions wise, and honestly, I prefer utah to have no alts

[plush nacelle]

Utah has no alt anyway

[chrome wigeon]

Achillobator

[feral cedar]

hmmm...

ngl Dromaeosaurus is both more different and also more similar to Utahraptor than I expected

Could be made to work as an ontogeny alt

[plush nacelle]

There is also fact PK Utah seemingly lacks wing feathers. Would make any dromie alt weird for it

[feral cedar]

to be fair Sinotherium has no hair

[plush nacelle]

Yes, but wing feathers in animals with them are part of their rigs

[obsidian frigate]

Darwinius please! My most heavily requested terrarium animal

[obsidian frigate]

Passenger pigeon could also be cool for a recently extinct addition

[amber field]

yes , maybe can fit as island or recent extinct dlc

[ancient ibex]

It is ALWAYS a Carcharodontosaur. Neovenatoridae is not used quite often, as carch Megaraptors closer to it was pretty much long branch attraction

[ancient ibex]

Like Cau's

[steep tulip]

I always forget that carcarodontosauria isn't just carcarodontosauridae
My bad

[ancient ibex]

Neovenatoridae is also quite often outright disregarded, as it is useless

Hell, it was quite useless when it was first erected, as it had Megaraptoridae inside it anyway

[low bridge]

I say one fact: Prolibytherium is neat enough to put into game bc of it unique sexual dymorphism

[feral cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[restive eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[plush nacelle]

For ,,filler hoofstock,, this animal really didnt live alongside anything relevant

[late swallow]

Does look pretty neat at least

[plush nacelle]

Would rather see more basic ungulate from miocene europe

To go well with deinotherium, chalicotheres and such

[late swallow]

Well Deinotherium is terrifying

[low bridge]

Which one u mean?

[low bridge]

So i show u Climacoceras which lived with Megistotherium

And Deinotherium Bozasi

[plush nacelle]

Idk. Most artiodactyls from there are small. Maybe heteroprox?

Couldnt be more basic, but small filler hoofstock I guess

[late swallow]

Isn't Ambulocetus on the original post-ea list

[flint sable]

no

it was theorized to be coming in EA

and very well still could be

[flint sable]

from the EA roadmap

[plush nacelle]

I wonder what species will get popularity boost from PP: ice age

Something people will ask for

[low bridge]

Dwarf Elephants

Tbh i want to see in Prehistoric Kingdom Titanotylopus

[mint creek]

Homotherium and whatever dwarf elephant they go with probably the two biggest guesses

[steep tulip]

Mekosuchus

I can see the future

Mekosuchus is in it

[left spear]

Meko could have very cool enrichment

It probably was a good swimmer still so It can have so a lot of compatible ones

[plush nacelle]

PP mekosuchus be like

[amber field]

Revueltosaurus

A herbivore corc with a club

[wary nacelle]

I feel like I’ve suggested this before but Odontochelys

[amber field]

Turtle !!!

[low bridge]

Guys watch this: i have to say that Fasolasuchus would be nice in game

Not this from "65" movie

[ancient ibex]

Could be a neat Saurosuchus alt ngl

[low bridge]

Ofc

Barinasuchus with some astrapotheres also be good in game

Like Hilarcotherium, Xenastraphotherium, Granastraphotherium

Hilarcotherium is as big as Elephant

[wary nacelle]

We could use some more dinosaurs closer to the poles soooo…
Kulindadromeus
Cryolophosaurus
Glacialisaurus
Nanuqusaurus
Antarctopelta
My top picks

[feral cedar]

Woah that Antarctopelta is NOT accurate lol

[outer moth]

Also why Nanuq?

[smoky spear]

amen this thread already has 26k messages?

[brisk spruce]

This might be odd considering its extant, but horseshoe crab terrarium creature

Or megalograptus

[shell sonnet]

This one is interesting, it's got both scales and feathers
A common pick but a good one
This is a single partial piece of bone
Fragmentary animal
Eh... there are better ankylosaurians out there

[late swallow]

why not

[wary nacelle]

Polar dinosaur

[outer moth]

It’s nothing more than a smaller T.rex
Has nothing going for it besides being a “polar dinosaur”

[wary nacelle]

-# Probably why I suggested it under my “polar dinosaurs” list

[late swallow]

polar dinosaur :3

[outer moth]

Yeah, and nothing else

Wow, really worthy addition, you guys

/sarc

[late swallow]

there is undesc postcranial still

[feral cedar]

being honest I don’t personally agree with the notion of adding dinosaurs from a specific place just for the sake of getting dinosaurs from that place

[outer moth]

There’s a certain percent of fragmentary material required for a species to actually be in PK, and Nanuq does not go past that threshold

Imo I’d approve if there was more material

[feral cedar]

Cryolophosaurus is a cool and relatively popular theropod from the Early Jurassic, while also having a unique crest. And it happens to be from Antarctica

[outer moth]

At least Thanos or Sauroniops aren’t being suggested

[wary nacelle]

Northarctus trust

[feral cedar]

Also, Kulindadromeus isn’t polar… I don’t think so at least

[wary nacelle]

It’s from Russia

[outer moth]

Cryo’s decent enough to be the sole theropod in a polar pack

[wary nacelle]

So northern enough

[feral cedar]

Sole non-avian dinosaur, even

[outer moth]

My home’s pretty vast, but this is far from “Polar”

Even by Jurassic standards

[outer moth]

Hmm

I suppose that is polar

[wary nacelle]

It needed the feathers for regulation from what I’ve heard

Ofc what I’ve heard is surface level so take it with a grain of salt

[outer moth]

Yeah, basal fuzz was mostly a temp thing

That’s been a thing since the Triassic

[shell sonnet]

The biggest knock against Kulindadromeus is that a) it doesn't share a site with anything, whilst also b) not being noteworthy itself. Also, we kind of have Leaelly for the small herbivorous bipedal (they're not closely related though), and I'd rather we get Hypsi and Thescleo first.

[left rover]

I personally still want thesc back, its such a weird animal

[wary nacelle]

Thesc is also rather northern if I remember

[shell sonnet]

It lives with Rex

[shell sonnet]

Aren't you a dev, are you saying you have no power over the process?

[left rover]

Its like one of the last needed things to fully round out hell creek, thesc, pachy, and denver.

[shell sonnet]

Needs Lepto

[wary nacelle]

We should get famous Hell Creek dinosaur Hellcreekosaurus

[left rover]

I am merely a concept artist, I design the animals (mostly dinosaurs) as needed lol.

[wary nacelle]

Actually I think, even without new JP movie bias, aquilops would be a cool terrarium animal

[left rover]

Somehow forgot about lepto 😔 hes cool too

[shell sonnet]

This just in Blue Meridian does not empower workers

[wary nacelle]

Wowza

[feral cedar]

design such a good Thescelosaurus that they can’t help themselves but to add it

[wary nacelle]

Power for the peoples

[shell sonnet]

Boycott PK

[wary nacelle]

Guys we should just get cool dinosaurs

Doesn’t matter what they’re like and such just cool dinosaurs

Radical ones in fact

The most radical dinosaurs and other ancient animals

[steep tulip]

I love lepto

Thescelo, lepto, champso

Anzu

So many

[wary nacelle]

We should get famous La Brean tar pit animal Labreasaurus

Too

[final yarrow]

i thought it was in africa??

no wait

thats nqwebasaurus

or whatever

[low bridge]

Easter special Nuralugus Rex should be in game

[wary nacelle]

I love nqwebasaurus

He’s my favorite African dinosaur

[shell sonnet]

I like Nqweba a lot but, again, there's nothing for it to really share a dig site with

[steep tulip]

Borealopelta in the same situation
Tho I still want it

Kulinda a bit less

[wary nacelle]

Guys…. All dinosaurs are cool 😨

[steep tulip]

Irl
I agree
For the game
Nah

[final yarrow]

Yutyrannus

idk if its a polar dinosaur

but it lived in a cold environment

thats something lol

and its way better than nanuq

[shell sonnet]

It's not that they aren't cool, so much as that we're aware the devs have only so much time to work on the game. It's our way of filtering stuff down to that we can give full support for better options

[final yarrow]

not a fuzzy Gorgosaurus

[steep tulip]

👆

If devs could add every single species ever it wouldn't be that much of a problem

[wary nacelle]

I would love for morrossurus but that’s just Dryosaurus really

[proper maple]

yeah

[shell sonnet]

eh, I don't see that

[steep tulip]

But I would rather get much better known stuff rather than tyrannosaur from alaska that is constantly made to be something else that what it actually (probably) was

[final yarrow]

i think the best thing to do is just

yk

look for all the unique animals

and “cool” ones

that arent a toe bone

thats literally just it

unique and not too fragmentary to where its like “brah”

[wary nacelle]

Guys only ichnogenera April fools day pack (I will keep pining for this)

[steep tulip]

Tbh nanuq didn't live in a polar climate either

Prince creek really wasn't that cold

[shell sonnet]

For me it's the following:
uniqueness amongst in-game content
uniqueness amongst similar animal
completeness of specimens
existing dig site addition or a good dig site addition
well-known factor

[final yarrow]

yeah which is why Yutyrannus would be a better pick than Nanuqsaurus

more unique and well known

[steep tulip]

As I said many times, I can accept fragmentary species if we know something unique about them
Like hatze and barina

[wary nacelle]

Leaellynasaura is cool because it is

[shell sonnet]

I don't know if that's cold but that's pretty damn close to the pole

[plush nacelle]

Surviving earth is going to make nanuq huge

[final yarrow]

this list is mostly fine

just dont include nanuq and maybe antarctopelta but idk

[steep tulip]

I know but when people say "polar dinosaurs" I imagine them picturing them like current polar regions

Cryo is also a polar dinosaur

Technically

[shell sonnet]

Glacialisaurus is just a partial bone

[final yarrow]

it’d be a good pick

can share a rig with Dilo

but its unique enough

and well known enough

[steep tulip]

As if its not famous enough already

[final yarrow]

i’ve yet to see Yutyrannus in a documentary

tell me if its in one

and if the appearance is actually good

[plush nacelle]

Soon it will become 2nd most popular tyrannosaur species. Media love them polar dinos

[late swallow]

saying 'nanuqsaurus' here is instant fighting words

[steep tulip]

I fear it already is

[steep tulip]

Yep
I really don't want it

[final yarrow]

cool animal but its nothing special thats it

[tough marsh]

Dinogorgon for a fairly Unique and large gorgonopsian

[steep tulip]

Like if all people want is a mostly feathered tyrannosaur you can add alberto/gorgo and give them a feathered skin

I would be fine with daspleto too

[ancient ibex]

Polar daspletosaur-adjacent animal isn't too exciting IMO

Daspleto alt? Maaaybe

[final yarrow]

daspletosaurus

its been a bit since i’ve heard that name

[plush nacelle]

Bud even has right name - polar bear lizard

[final yarrow]

isnt it what the Tyrannosaurus Rex evolved from?

or something like that?

[shell sonnet]

you mean Nanotyrannus

[final yarrow]

like Daspletosaurus became Tyrannosaurus Rex

[ancient ibex]

I mean it is cool but albertosaurs and aliorams are imo better additions

[final yarrow]

i agree

especially alioramus

[steep tulip]

I hope nanuq will come in a dlc I don't have to care about
Because I know it will come eventually

[desert flame]

If we add Tyrannosauridae, we'd like to see some smaller species, like Guanlong.

[ancient ibex]

Either directly from within Daspletosaurus as a genus, or from a grade of Daspletosaurus-like animals; and Tyrannosaurini as a whole

[plush nacelle]

I think it is shit addition, because realistically this game will get about 50 more spots and wasting one of them on nanuq is yikes

[wary nacelle]

Arizonasaurus is cool and interesting and not just another animal with a sail

[ancient ibex]

Daspleto seems to be closer to Tyranno than to degrootorum no matter what

[ancient ibex]

Not a Tyrannosaurid

[final yarrow]

but u must admit

Guanlong would be a neat addition

[wary nacelle]

It would

[ancient ibex]

Fwiw, Tyrannosauridae is the Tyranno+Alberto clade, the 2 fingered chunks

[steep tulip]

Guanlong is cool

[ancient ibex]

Oh yeah

[outer crater]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[steep tulip]

I'm confident we will get all the old roster species in one way or another

So guanlong as a decent chance to be added

[limber nexus]

Man, I hate how it’s always forgotten it every hell creek documentary

Same with denversaurus

Or Anzu

[desert flame]

really?

[wary nacelle]

Koreaceratops would be cool if they lean into the aquatic aspect

[limber nexus]

Or any non dinosaur animals from the formation

[ancient ibex]

I still see Lepto+Udano via alts as viable

[plush nacelle]

I mean every documentary has to include rex and trike, which steal screen time

[steep tulip]

Tbh what do hell creek documentaries have except the same 5 species in rotation

[shell sonnet]

Trike's not in WWD except as a corpse

[plush nacelle]

Basically doing trike job under different name

[steep tulip]

Wwd and that trex movie had the widest assortment of animals

[desert flame]

Yutyrannus existed before EA, so it may be resurrected at some point.

[steep tulip]

All the others use the same 5 dinos

[plush nacelle]

Ank, trike, rex, edmonto and?

[steep tulip]

Pachy

It's also the rarest one

[shell sonnet]

Pachy ain't in WWD

[steep tulip]

I know, I said most hell creek documentaries use the same 5 dinosaurs in rotation

[plush nacelle]

Idk. 5th animals is always random one

[shell sonnet]

Nah, it's mostly just the big four ones, though sometimes they use alts

[ancient ibex]

WWD went hipster with Toro and "Anatotitan"

[limber nexus]

I know that, but it’s always Rex,Trike,Edmonto, anky

That’s it

[late swallow]

tbf Anatotitan is a cool ass name

[ancient ibex]

Plus time traveling Deinosuchus and Dromaeosaurus

[steep tulip]

Usually you won't see all 5 of then in a documentary tho
That's why in rotation

[ancient ibex]

And wandering Quetz

[limber nexus]

Deinosuchus?

Huh?

[ancient ibex]

Neon orange Deino

[shell sonnet]

There's a croc in the last WWD episode

[limber nexus]

That was deino?

[steep tulip]

Even php didn't have anky
Tho we did get a close relative

[limber nexus]

And it’s like my brother

[steep tulip]

Its unnamed afaik

But material outside the doc calls it deinosuchus

[shell sonnet]

in supplementary material it's referred to as such

[steep tulip]

Don't remember which one, but I don't think it's that trustworthy

[limber nexus]

Ok then, I just assumed that was one of the various crocs in the hell creek

[plush nacelle]

Rotation be like
You want rex kill something = edmonto
You want rex struggle = anky

[steep tulip]

Yeah lol

[limber nexus]

Hell creek has so much and we barely see any of it. It’s always Trike, Anky, Rex, and Edmonto, and Torosaurus if we’re lucky

[shell sonnet]

Remember the different versions of WWD had different narration; I know the US's version used Dromaeosaurus in the episode but the BBC one just uses Dromaeosaur

[limber nexus]

I always forgot there was a US narration

I always had access to the British one since I had the DvD

[desert flame]

If Deinosuchus is added in Update 18 as rumored, I hope the design will be better...

[steep tulip]

Actually

I can't name more than 2 times pachy appeared in a documentary focused about hell creek

[shell sonnet]

I saw the first episode when it came out (which had cuts) and saw the rest years later on VHS

[ancient ibex]

Meanwhile, Spain dub (which had massive viewer numbers) refering to the Utahs as Velociraptors...

[steep tulip]

So the same 4, usually just 3

[shell sonnet]

the hell

[ancient ibex]

Everything else on point

Tie-in book on point

[limber nexus]

I think I had when dinosaurs roamed America on VHS as a kid

[steep tulip]

Still has among the best depiction of some animals to this day

That appeared in a documentary that is

[plush nacelle]

Torosaurus has only 2 documentary appearances

One in walking with

And second in speckles the tarbosaurus

Lol

[limber nexus]

That is why I said if you’re lucky

Better chances than the other hell creek animals

Besides maybe Struthiomimis/Ornithimimus

[shell sonnet]

I had the Eyewitness Dinosaur on VHS (US version, which again has some differences than the UK), but I managed to pick up a lot from the library (like the four part Dinosaur special, which had paleontologists like Ostrom, the National Geographics' Really Wild animals episocde on Dinos, Bill Nye's dinosaur episode, those specials that Gary Owen did with a guy working for the Field's museum in Chicago), amongst others. Dinosaurs got me into nature documentaries

[plush nacelle]

Idk. I am looking through and it seems these animals truly rotate with 1 or 2 appearances at best

Thesc with 2 cameos and 1 about arctic dinos

[limber nexus]

Idk really know how I got into dinosaurs but I know I was into nature documentaries first

And my local library didn’t have VhS tapes sadly

[feral cedar]

Not with Albertosaurus around

[plush nacelle]

Albertosaurus fans will cope

[steep tulip]

Wwd2 reminded people its indeed a dinosaur that exist

Like after the early 2010s alberto didn't appear in anything I think

[feral cedar]

it’s because of hipsterism

[steep tulip]

Instead nanuq been getting stuff since it was described in 2013

Like how many
6? 7? Maybe more

[feral cedar]

Prehistoric Planet had Asian T. rex, table scrap taxon Nanuqsaurus, and potential junior synonym of Alioramus before the extremely well preserved Albertosaurus smh

I’m offended on its behalf

[plush nacelle]

Nanuq literally won in lottery:

• is tyrannosaur
• name means polar bear lizard. Easy to paint it white
• from decently popular formation = Prince Creek. Polar dinosaurs are interesting subject
• said formation can be depicted as cold, because people believe Alaska used to be harsh cold just like now
• from maastrichtian

[steep tulip]

Industry plant dinosaur fr

[plush nacelle]

9

[feral cedar]

Other sad exclusions from PHP include Ankylosaurus, Thescelosaurus, Leptoceratops, and Anzu from Hell Creek, Saurolophus and Gallimimus from Nemegt, literally any nodosaur, more Horseshoe Canyon fauna aside from Anodontosaurus and Atrociraptor…

[plush nacelle]

Cant include everything sadly.

[steep tulip]

Yeah
And champsosaurus

Also true

[steep tulip]

Damn 😭

[feral cedar]

That’s where my spicy takes come in

[plush nacelle]

10 with surviving earth

[feral cedar]

I would’ve gladly taken a few species replacements

Saurolophus over Barsboldia for example

[plush nacelle]

Prehistoric Planet Ice Age is also going to omit few famous species

I bet

[steep tulip]

Most likely

[plush nacelle]

There are like 4 places per episode

and 5-6 segments

[feral cedar]

Albertosaurus hunting the Ornithomimus in S2

[steep tulip]

I don't mind it too much

Tho

[feral cedar]

Instead of Nanuqsaurus redux

[plush nacelle]

For example I dont feel like arctodus is going to appear

[digital pendant]

Gotta love people disappointing themselves before a documentary even releases

Just wait until its out relax

[feral cedar]

No one said anything about disappointment

[steep tulip]

As long as the we see the group well represented, I think it's not a big deal

Like I would love to see glyptodon, but glyototherium also works

[feral cedar]

Glyptotherium excites me because it makes me think we’re getting La Brea fauna

[digital pendant]

Glyptotherium wasnt in la brea though

[plush nacelle]

Moas for me

[flint sable]

a smaller critter would be nice, didelphodon

[plush nacelle]

No preference, which one is going to be destroyed by eagle

[steep tulip]

Lol

I do hope we get a good roster of non mammals
Island focused ftw

[plush nacelle]

Lemurs making appearance would be legendary

[steep tulip]

Real

[digital pendant]

I would move the documentary chat btw, I didnt realize this is the suggestions thread

[plush nacelle]

Imagine one in PK

Devs would cook with baboon lemur

[steep tulip]

A lot to tackle on islands too, doubt we will see all of it unfortunately

[plush nacelle]

So much potential with skins inspired by baboon and crazy lemur patterns

[steep tulip]

Yeah

[plush nacelle]

My fav depiction of them.

[steep tulip]

Baboon lemurs, sloth lemurs, gorilla lemurs

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-man-just-keep-bringing-gif-27448431

[plush nacelle]

Somehow stepsirrhini offer the best primates for PK

[feral cedar]

circling back to the reason I even brought up PHP

Albertosaurus is the best second tyrannosauroid for PK

[steep tulip]

First best tyrannosaurid tho

[austere sparrow]

Daspletosaurus torosus, Daspletosaurus horneri and Nanuqsaurus would be a neat alt trio imo 🤔 Maybe the devs can be cheeky and takes cues from the remaining Daspletosaurus species to reconstruct Nanuq, too But yeah, Alioramus and Albertosaurus (maybe plus Gorgosaurus) are more sensible additions

[steep tulip]

(I imagine you meant yuty for the other one)

[steep tulip]

Honestly
Wouldn't mind

Not like a big fan of daspleto, but better than just solo nanuq

[austere sparrow]

Would prefer Yuty and Guan (and maybe even Dryptosaurus) over more Tyrannosaurids

[steep tulip]

I would say alberto and yuty are pretty tied up for me

[ancient ibex]

They do different things

Like Bary and Allo

[austere sparrow]

Most animals do, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to prefer one over the other

Like, I would prefer Bary over Allo for example (which is funny since they're coming in the opposite order)

I do hope we get at least one of the main two Ceratosaurs (Ceratosaurus and Carnotaurus) before we get more Tyrannosauroids, and ideally both before the second -rid

[steep tulip]

I mean that seems to be the case

I would also want cerato right after we exit ea

Dippy and cerato

[shell sonnet]

it's probably Tarbo

[austere sparrow]

...Does anybody actually like Tarbo?

[late swallow]

it's fine

[shell sonnet]

Dippy, Cerato, Campto, and Orintholestes for Morrison (plus Steg and Allo obviously), and that's basically all what's needed from the formation

[feral cedar]

Tarbosaurus is the lion to the T. rex's tiger imo

[steep tulip]

I think something missing

From morrison

[late swallow]

its missing joe

[steep tulip]

Eilenodon wouldn't be half bad

[feral cedar]

Eile what now

[steep tulip]

But that's not what I'm thinking

Giant rhyncocephalian

[feral cedar]

Rigby is that you

[shell sonnet]

Nope, everything else is extra

[steep tulip]

Ig yeah

[feral cedar]

This is the first time I've seen someone suggest a giant rhynchocephalian from the Morrison Formation

[austere sparrow]

Meanwhile modern dinosaur zoo games:
WLP2: You get Stegosaurus and you'll be happy. What do you mean "What about the Diplodocus on the box art", never heard of false advertisement?
Zoo Tycoon 2: Stegosaurus AND... Uh... Stokesosaurus? Yeah?
Zoo Tycoon: Stegosaurus, Allosaurus, Apatosaurus, Camptosaurus.
JPOG: Brach, Steg, Dryo, Camara, Cerato. Allo but it's hidden somewhere else.
JWE: JPOG Species, Apatosaurus and Diplodocus. Campto Orni who?

[steep tulip]

Ig I'm just based like that

[glass snow]

Anzu is also cool

Big crested hell creek chicken

[steep tulip]

What if I said I want anzu more than gigantoraptor

[glass snow]

I want anzu more than giganto as well

It is like one of my favorite dinosaurs

[plush nacelle]

Giganto is like opposite from what I expect from these animals

[austere sparrow]

I don't really care that much for Anzu, I do really want Citipati and that's like. Basically just Asian Anzu unless you're an anal nerd about stuff

I think I do want more Oviraptoroids general and they're a good opportunity for small dinosaurs so I think I might actually also prefer Anzu over Gigantoraptor lol

[feral cedar]

Anzu is not a small dinosaur lol

[austere sparrow]

Even tho I quite like Gigantoraptor but don't care much for Anzu

Anzu is small in a game where most carnivores are Megatheropods xP

[feral cedar]

Anzu is not small when compared to a lot of species in-game

[austere sparrow]

🤔

[feral cedar]

That's... not right

[austere sparrow]

Lel

Yeah I am aware of the (in)famous undescribed giant Anzu specimen but like

Even that is still only Struthiomimus sized

...Eh I guess it's right there and visibly a slight bit bigger

Idk Anzu is weird because it seems like. Nobody can agree what actual size it is besides "bigger than what we actually have evidence for"

[plush nacelle]

Everybody knows didelphodon best hell creek addition

And then borealosuchus

[austere sparrow]

We do unironically could use a Mesozoic mammal, and Didelphodon is among the handful that are large enough lol

Trierarchuncus more like Trierarchungus

[plush nacelle]

Volaticotherium - didelphodon - repenomamus - adalatherium trust

Sugar glider - otter - wolverine - marmot, but mesozoic

Would be fun to have repenomamus as habitat species, just for it to be able strangle with smaller dinos

[feral cedar]

-# Repenomamus*...

[final yarrow]

-# obamasuchus

[glass snow]

that is not right it is bigger

citipati is not even close to anzu in proportions

Citipati is an Oviraptorid and Anzu is a Caenagnathid

they are proportionally very different

Two very different oviraptorosaur just slightly different in size with one being way more bulky

[left rover]

The beak and head shape is also wildly different between them, they absolutely would not work as alts.

[glass snow]

I really want Anzu in the distant future seeing how you guys nailed ovi and giganto would also be neat and is more popular. Caenagnathids need some love.

I love oviraptorosaurs

parrot chickens

[wild relic]

And Anzu would also add another member to the hell creek roster along with Pachy in update 17 if that teaser map is anything to go by too

[ancient ibex]

Caudipteryx mini would rock too

Caudi, Giganto, Ovi and Anzu

[glass snow]

this would be the peak oviraptorosaurid lineup

[hollow flower]

I would be very interested to see paleozoic flora

[low bridge]

I see Aenocyon in game, Barbourofelis idk but i want Megatherium

[steep carbon]

Your missing the buck toothed freak

[ancient ibex]

Irrelevant

[ancient ibex]

Man that did not age well

Seriously, it is literally a Caudopteryx grade animal that for some reason got featured instead of its better known neighbour in a tv show 2 decades ago

[steep tulip]

Incisovosaurus gonna be a terrarium animal if it gets in

Its like very very small

[final yarrow]

spore creature 😭🙏

[ancient ibex]

That's it

[median relic]

incisivosaurus is my guilty pleasure

[median relic]

it's just such a whimsical beast

[steep tulip]

I wonder how close we can get to recreate prehistoric park

Unfortunately doubt we getting a mongolian titanosaur

From the early cretaceous

[hollow furnace]

My pipe dream which I know won't happen is if we could get terrarium 'alts' for animals that are very similar, like Caudipteryx, Incisovo, and Protoarcheopteryx, as just small model reworks and reskins

[steep carbon]

Honestly ovi and giganto are enough

[steep tulip]

Nah

[hollow furnace]

They'd potentially be slightly more work compared a regular alt, but less work as a result of being terrarium animals

[median relic]

I would be disappointed if we didn't get citipati, but I don't need it. I would like Anzu though too. Oksoko is also cool but don't need it

[steep carbon]

Like id love more Oviraptorids but im sure their are other things that could take their spot

[steep tulip]

Tbh
It would be pretty easy to package 2 similar animals in the same dlc to buff the price or something like that
Some very requested minis are also similar to stuff that is planned or we have already
Having more general variation wouldn't be bad considering they are mainly aesthetic

[plush nacelle]

Like more mega theropods

[steep tulip]

🐧 🚬

Meraxes and tyrannotitan next or I riot

[steep carbon]

Eew

[median relic]

who else likes oksoko

[steep carbon]

Is that the two fingered one?

[median relic]

yes

such a little nugget, and has digit reduction

I could see them walking around your park like a peacock

speaking of which we need animals that we can do that with

[hollow flower]

Dicynodonts

[austere sparrow]

Avimimus would be another good Peacock-equivalent imo. Probably moreso since it has the long arms (and potentially tail?) to support whacky feathers though Oksoko I feel definitely still is interesting

[median relic]

yes

also maybe the first thought for some as a peacock like roamer would be ornithomimids but they're usually waaay too big imo

[austere sparrow]

Also lol, Incisivosaurus is just Caudipteryx with one more interesting feature; so I feel that actually makes it a more sensible addition than Caudi

[median relic]

true

[austere sparrow]

Literally no reason not to just transplant the few worthwhile thing Caudi has going for it, honestly

[median relic]

hypsilophodon could work iirc

maybe a smaller elaphrosaur

[austere sparrow]

Huh. I guess in that case we already have our peacock stand-in with Leaellynasaura

[austere sparrow]

Weren't there just two Elaphrosaurs? Elaphro itself, and Limu?

Or well, two we named I guess, chances are there were more lol

[median relic]

there's also huinculsaurus

afaik it's the only one from the cretaceous, and it cohabited with argentinosaurus

[austere sparrow]

Huh.

[median relic]

also iirc I thought chilesaurus was an elaphrosaur but idk

[flint sable]

literally 🤓

[feral cedar]

Don’t forget Citipati

[shell sonnet]

Ovi fills in Citipati's spot

[median relic]

nothing can replace the real cretaceous mongolia devil

[feral cedar]

Oh damn

[shell sonnet]

in the context of PK, it does

[feral cedar]

Unfortunately

Oh well

it does look good though

[shell sonnet]

Also and this might be a hot take, but I'd rather get Struthi/Ornithomimus before Anzu for Hell Creek

[steep tulip]

I mean same

[feral cedar]

Only orni is HC

[steep tulip]

I want ornitho tho

[shell sonnet]

There's a species of Sturthi in Hell Creek

[feral cedar]

Might not be a struthi

The idea would be to get O. velox and S. altus

Ornithomimus’ type is from the Lance Formation, making it coeval with the Hell Creek fauna

The definitive Struthiomimus fossils are from the Campanian of Canada in the Oldman Formation

[shell sonnet]

Atlus would in Horseshoe Canyon

[steep tulip]

How much material in under velox

Other than the holotype

[shell sonnet]

As for S. sedens, I think this is a cool find

[feral cedar]

Yes and no

[steep tulip]

I know there's quite a bit that has been proposed as such, but idk if it still holds up

[feral cedar]

We have fossils of an ornithomimid in Horseshoe Canyon, but it might not be the same species

Struthiomimus sp.

Apparently Late Cretaceous NA ornithomimids are kind of a mess, so it’s better to go with the type specimens of Campanian Struthiomimus altus just to be safe

[median relic]

it was kind of a joke

[shell sonnet]

Look, Horseshoe Canyon is in the game already. Might as well give Struthi a nice bonus to mix with the species of Eddie and Pachyrhino there

[hollow furnace]

The altus holotype is not from the Oldman formation

[feral cedar]

where is it from then

[feral cedar]

tbh we could do the good ol alt combo

Ornithomimus velox/edmontonicus for Hell Creek and Horseshoe Canyon, and Struthiomimus alt for Campanian

[shell sonnet]

We can use S. sedens for Hell Creek instead as well

[feral cedar]

if it even is S. sedens

[hollow furnace]

ah right, figured out what I was getting confused by

We have no idea where struthiomimus is from

it could be oldman, or dinosaur park

[shell sonnet]

Lambe's paper focuses on the Belly River group, which does include oldman and dinosaur park

[restive eagle]

tbf the pygmy mammoth is also pretty different

do we know if were getting any more mammoths in the future btw

[slim flare]

Columbian mammoth is considered

[feral cedar]

If you guys had to choose a second ankylosaurid to be added, and only one, which would it be?

[toxic oriole]

Hmmmm