Are there any armored dinosaurs that could be alternate genera for Ankylosaurus like maybe Pinacosaurus
#Community Species Suggestions
heavy scarab
feral cedar
Is the refusal to add alt genera to existing species on behalf of the devs rooted in the fact that they take up one skin slot
So adding something like Centrosaurus would functionally give Styracosaurus 4 skins
slim flare
They don’t want to go back
limber nexus
Is the refusal to add alt genera to existing species on behalf of the devs roote...
There are some creatures with 4 skins, which we trike, so I don’t think a creature with 3 skins and alternate genius is off the table, but I also doubt they are going back
deep lake
Girant e m o
low bridge
Also Ankylosaurus is already in the game, it’s not getting alt genera
Tarchia, Saichania
slim flare
feral cedar
ngl I think the ankylosaurid roster could be expanded
Euoplocephalus as its own thing and then Tarchia tumanovae and teresae with a Pinacosaurus alt
low bridge
Who wants Alamosaurus in Prehistoric Kingdom???
I think that he would skyrocket in game
slow shoal
it def doesnt come to mind when i think of sauropods I want
low bridge
Who wants Alamosaurus in Prehistoric Kingdom???
Little info abt him:
That should light everything that why is he needed anyways
low bridge
Worldwide Alamo
low bridge
id much rather more unique sauropods
Nigersaurus
slow shoal
Worldwide Alamo
its only from north america
low bridge
That was joke ik that he is N.A
Bustingorrytitan from Huincul formation should be expansion animal
limber nexus
id much rather more unique sauropods
Same here, there are a lot better options
slow shoal
pmuch the only sauropods i want are diplodocus (maybe with baro alt), amargasaurus, and mamenchisaurus
low bridge
Argentino who has low material is in game
scenic lava
Archelon is a must have 🔥
slow shoal
the sauropods we have currently cover a lot of ground in the types of sauropods
slow shoal
the thing is pmuch no one knows those species im ngl
gotta strike a good balance between known names and uniqueness
hollow furnace
One Chakisaurus when?
What are any of these animals lol
slow shoal
chakisaurus looks pretty similar to dryo so i dont see the point in adding it
limber nexus
What are any of these animals lol
I genuinely don’t know half of the animals people mention anymore
That’s probably a good argument for why they shouldn’t be added
ancient ibex
I mean, if I had to compile a sauropodomorph list? Eoraptor, maybe Melanorosaurus, Shunosaurus, Mamenchisaurus, Diplodocus, Nigersaurus, Amargasaurus, Saltasaurus
limber nexus
I mean, if I had to compile a sauropodomorph list? Eoraptor, maybe Melanorosauru...
All of those would be cool, but there are definitely creatures I would prioritize first instead of sauropods
low bridge
Sivatherium and Bramatherium as Alt + Extra Pachy Giraffe Discokeryx
Who agree with this
3 giraffes that would Fit insanely good in game
low bridge
3 giraffes are good for Balance
limber nexus
3 giraffes are good for Balance
For balance?
This is a park builder not a survival game
Why do we need three giraffes when there are unique animals made with those resources
limber nexus
Bc people can get bored with only one
People won’t get bored with one, if the roster is diverse to begin with
We don’t need literally every single prehistoric creature
low bridge
I choosed the best ones
So not every single creature
From Elephants: Deinotherium, Stegotetrabelodon, Platybelodon, Arsinoitherium will be highly unique
That is max
slow shoal
no paleoloxodon or mastodon spotted smh
plush nacelle
Been watching lanzas recent video
What a goated terrarium species necrolestes would be
junior glacier
Been watching lanzas recent video
Do you have a link for that video?
autumn plover
There are some creatures with 4 skins, which we trike, so I don’t think a creatu...
Bit late to the convo but the only animals with 4 skins are animals like Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, Spinosaurus
It’s more due to extreme popularity
Being able to have more alts is just a bonus
low bridge
no paleoloxodon or mastodon spotted smh
They on post EA ideas list
slow shoal
doesnt guarantee they are in tbh
autumn plover
Less famous animals like Styracosaurus aren’t popular enough to warrant that sort of stuff
left spear
They don’t want to go back
Ironic for this kind of game
sharp dock
I am more of a fan of the humble talarurus
low bridge
3rd kitty for Prehistoric Kingdom must be Homotherium
autumn plover
Due to its popularity I think Carnotaurus is honestly soft-confirmed. I would love if we could get either Pycnonemosaurus as an alt
low bridge
3rd kitty for Prehistoric Kingdom must be Homotherium
We have it's permafrosted cub discovered
slow shoal
i dont think carno should have any alts
autumn plover
Due to its popularity I think Carnotaurus is honestly soft-confirmed. I would lo...
Pycno being fairly fragmentary works in its favour as we could take away its horns if people want a more generic looking Abelisaur
autumn plover
i dont think carno should have any alts
I mean, there would be no forcing you to use it
autumn plover
Nah
low bridge
Rugops when?
autumn plover
Alts are a great way to add extra species, and in-some cases genera here and there without a tonne of extra work
slow shoal
also ngl the only abelis i actually really want are carno and majunga
they cover both extremes well
low bridge
Rajasaurus where?
slow shoal
theoretically could be a majunga alt but majunga is cooler anyway
autumn plover
also ngl the only abelis i actually really want are carno and majunga
Nothing stopping you from just having Carno and Majunga in your parks my guy
low bridge
Rajasaurus is unique
slow shoal
not saying there is something stopping me
autumn plover
Pycno could work as it’s closely related to Carnotaurus while still being frag enough to make it look somewhat similar enough to Carno to justify it as an alt
autumn plover
im just saying i dont really like pycno
Then don’t create one?
slow shoal
well if it gets in the game then we will see but as it stands it isnt
so i can say id rather it not be in the game lol
autumn plover
I don’t really care for anything in the terrariums (except grandad) doesn’t mean I don’t want them for the game
For others to enjoy
slow shoal
idk if im in the minority of opinions but personally I feel at least one or two reps from a group is good enough
low bridge
Horned Gopher in good?
slow shoal
like honestly argent is good enough for titanosaurs
i really have no desire for visually similar things like patagotitan or dreadnoughtus
the only exception to a lot of this imo is if something has a neat quirk to it or helps flesh out another existing formation
autumn plover
Bit late
hollow furnace
the only exception to a lot of this imo is if something has a neat quirk to it o...
If we did get another giant titanosaur (which I don't really want), I'd want one with a smooth appearance with no osteoderms to contrast with Argent's gnarlyness
(which would mean not Alamosaurus)
silver steeple
idk if im in the minority of opinions but personally I feel at least one or two ...
I'm in agreement
slow shoal
also i just dont like scrappy genera unless there is something genuienly unique there
or if every member of the group is scrappy lol
cough megaraptorans
silver steeple
Hey there's some decent ones in there
slow shoal
true they arent terrible all things considered
silver steeple
Could certainly be worse
ancient ibex
Rajasaurus is unique
It is not
left spear
The one thing Raja has is location
But that's not enough to justify it
I wouldn't mind It as an alt to a more interesting abelisaurid tho
low bridge
Early Cretaceous Europe expansion with Polacanthus, Concavenator, Pelecanimimus, Neovenator
sharp dock
Huh what kind of Inostrancevia is that
loud lark
This is comparison of Arctodus and Arctotherium
They are 2 different species so they should be separate species
lean hound
They are 2 different species so they should be separate species
you mean genus?
loud lark
idk but they 2 separate species I think ok
ancient ibex
I mean, Tyrannosaurus rex and Tarbosaurus baatar are also 2 distinct species?
loud lark
you mean genus?
Arctodus simus belongs to the genus Arctodus.
Arctotherium angustidens belongs to the genus Arctotherium. They are separate genera, not just separate species.
ancient ibex
Paraceratherium bugtiense, Paraceratherium transouralicum, and Juxia sharamurenensis are 3 separate species in 2 differente genera, but there we are
I don't think you understand the argument?
lean hound
Paraceratherium bugtiense, Paraceratherium transouralicum, and Juxia sharamurene...
May sound like a silly question but what is genera and what is the difference between species, genus and genera?
ancient ibex
Genera is the plural of genus; one genus, two genera
lean hound
Genera is the plural of genus; one genus, two genera
thank you
ancient ibex
Grecolatin words are a bit weird in English
loud lark
I don't think you understand the argument?
who
inner wedge
if we take the post-ea leak as a hint for things to come i think it's safe to see most new animals being "clones " of existing ones, so giganotosaurus and things like that are coming
because with the rigs being there it's easier to make newer dinos
ea dino roster so far looks targeted to add as many rigs possible to make updates easier to fill up with new species
ebon python
Stegosaurus
Kentrosaurus
Huayangosaurus
Wuerhosaurus
Gigantspinosaurus
pentaceratops (image is wrong)
lean hound
Stegosaurus
Stegosaurus is already confirmed
smoky spear
pentaceratops (image is wrong)
pentaceratops*
loud lark
Eotriceratops and Torosaurus
autumn plover
If we're gonna get more ceratopsians i'd rather not waste slots on Triceratops clones like Eotriceratops and extremely similar species like Torosaurus.
If we're gonna get more ceratopsians there are numerouse species that are actually worth adding.
Just off of the top of my head Kosmoceratops/Pentaceratops/Chasmosaurus are all visually impressive and distinct from Triceratops, and that's just looking at chasmosaurines
sage gull
Miragaia
autumn plover
Why did you delete it?
I get that, but unfortunately devs wont go back and make it an alt, if it were ever possible.
loud lark
Cuz i regret saying it cuz torosaurus could be a simular genus as trike
autumn plover
If we get more chasmosaurines they should be more distinct
autumn plover
Cuz i regret saying it cuz torosaurus could be a simular genus as trike
Sorry for being harsh, everyone has a favourite dinosaur.
loud lark
yes my fav dino is sauroposeidon actually
autumn plover
i got mixed of different trike lookalikes
It would be cool to have if the devs had unlimited resources, but unfortunately it would probably not be the best choice, its not even guaranteed that we'll get another ceratopsian im afraid.
slim flare
Add Nigersaurus and yeah, that’s basically the agreed missing sauropod roster
ebon python
Nigersaurus (image may not be fully accurate)
heavy scarab
The 3 sauropods I would love to see are Amargasaurus, Diplodocus and Saltasaurus.
But I personally would like to see more thyreophorans particularly Kentrosaurus, Miragaia, Euoplocephalus and Polacanthus
ebon python
okay yes
loud lark
This is comparison of Megatherium and Eremotherium
naive storm
Wuerhosaurus
Me want
naive storm
https://preview.redd.it/mkn599whakz11.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=9548f...
Looks like my sister
sharp dock
makaracetus
wasn't expecting my art to be used as ref lol
sage gull
Tyrannotitan
trail gyro
Ah yes another Carcha
trail gyro
Acro and Carcha plus Concavenator are all the Carcha we really need
toxic oriole
"We"
wanton panther
Inostrancevia and Scutosaurus
heavy scarab
Desmatosuchus
sharp dock
Inostrancevia and Scutosaurus
name a more iconic duo ill wait
heavy scarab
Edaphosaurus and Dimetrodon
sage gull
Concavenator
Yes
wanton panther
name a more iconic duo ill wait
What’s wrong with this one?
steep crane
When will the results be posted?
hollow furnace
Life on our planet
feral cedar
I don’t remember Inostrancevia and Scutosaurus in LOOP
hollow furnace
they're in episode 3
limber nexus
When will the results be posted?
The poll closes on the 30th and I’m making a video on the results that should come out before the end of may, just because I have finals at the begging of may
desert flame
Inostrancevia and Scutosaurus
Permian animals is need...
wary nacelle
How could y’all forget Bulbasaurus?
solemn cedar
Nothrotheriops shastensis. We got Manny and Diego, and now all we need is Sid.
loud lark
Shasta ground sloth?
lean hound
chalicotherium, bramatherium, macrauchenia and sivatherium would all be great for some funky mammal representation
obviously not all of them since they're all quite similar
low bridge
chalicotherium, bramatherium, macrauchenia and sivatherium would all be great fo...
Dude Discokeryx, Prolibytherium also neat
Discokeryx a pachycephalosaur giraffe
Prodeinotherium as Alt sp for Deinotherium is must
We need that
sage gull
Monoclonius
sharp dock
Prodeinotherium as Alt sp for Deinotherium is must
it isn't
but I wanna hear your reasoning on why it is a must
lean hound
but I wanna hear your reasoning on why it is a must
pretty pointless
sharp dock
pretty pointless
wdym?
lean hound
wdym?
Trying to understand EZ is like trying to understand a
something
I can't think of anything
sharp dock
Trying to understand EZ is like trying to understand a
you mean because he just lists genera without further elaboration on why they are a good addition?
lean hound
you mean because he just lists genera without further elaboration on why they ar...
He's just confusing
very confusing
sharp dock
hmmm hmmmmmm....
well I dont check this chat much sooooo
you know PZ had a pretty good system with the meta wishlist
I'm not gonna say it was flawless, but it definitely reflected better what the playerbase wanted in the game
in case you don't know what the meta wishlist is, it was basically a forum thread that compiled the votes for a specific animals, people made their top 20 most wanted animals in the replies, and then they would be added to the wishlist by OP, the animals that were more frequent in those top 20 lists get higher on the list, while the ones that are only requested by a few users remain low
hollow flower
That sounds pretty neat
sharp dock
Yeah it was pretty cool, in fact frontier used the wishlist as guideline for their content packs for quite a long time
and it worked quite well
of course though it's not flawless as it only reflected the desires of a specific group within the playerbase
but still it worked well as the people who participated were more knowledgeable about species and generally popular animals in the end get a high number of votes regardless of the demographic
maybe you guys can do something similar and start posting top 20 animals you wanna see added to the game so the team can gather said info more effectively
otherwise I don't really think this thread is gonna be that useful for the devs to know what animals would be considered worth being added
outer moth
Monoclonius
Dubious
hollow flower
I think i remember it being there yeah
sharp dock
but honestly ceratopsian diversity rn is good enough
we got the most iconic ones
- nasuto
hollow flower
If i wanted a ceratopsian itd be like
Penta and Udano
Other than that its good currently
plush nacelle
Sinoceratops is good, because it is from Asia. Everything else kinda meh
sharp dock
Penta and Udano
Funny I was thinking exactly about those two lol
hollow flower
I mean yeah but personally id prefer Centrosaurus over it due to the massive amount of material
It could be Centro + Sino
sharp dock
Udanoceratops is a good option to use on the protoceratops rig
hollow flower
Much like Para and Charono
sharp dock
cuz its funky lookin
hollow flower
It looks funky plus its absolutely huge
sharp dock
Yeah
do we know if miragaia was coming? I don't really remember the confirmed species rn
plush nacelle
Now as dacentrurus
plush nacelle
Dacentrurus was featured in post EA idea list
sharp dock
Priorities....
sage gull
Koolasuchus
runic tiger
we got the most iconic ones
Its true, but ceratopsians are a slippery slope
There's always ooone more interesting one that could be added
Like diabloceratops
Then you remember kosmoceratops
sharp dock
and then you remember wendiceratops yea
sharp dock
but you know, as much as they are unique and cool looking I dont think they are downright necessary
runic tiger
No not at all
I could maybe see like one more ceratopsian added post EA
My vote would be on diablo as another smaller early-mid game animal, but still a weirdo
sharp dock
unfortunately with nasuto in the game diablo loses points
autumn plover
Favourite ceratopsian but he’s right
sharp dock
and trust me I think diablo is cooler as well
runic tiger
unfortunately with nasuto in the game diablo loses points
Eh true true
Oh shit I forgot pentaceratops
autumn plover
If we need any more ceratopsians it should be either Kosmoceratops, Chasmosaurus or Pentaceratops
runic tiger
No not chasmo itself
autumn plover
We only have one Chasmosaurine and all 3 I stated have at least one other animal from their formation in-game or planned
runic tiger
Abbreviating the group name my bad
Meant chasmosaurine*
But my suggestion was penta
autumn plover
I mean could Chasmosaurus and Kosmoceratops work as alts? Both have short body frills, one just has very weird horns?
If so I’d say them just so we can get 2 in 1
sharp dock
idk tbh
runic tiger
Eh feels like kind of a stretch
runic tiger
There are too many
autumn plover
Giga, Giga, Giga, Giga, and Giga
sharp dock
lol
autumn plover
All with slight variations of the Carcharodontosaurus
sharp dock
I mean giga is aight (personally I think it doesn't add anything new but)
autumn plover
I mean giga is aight (personally I think it doesn't add anything new but)
I’m joking
sharp dock
if they add giga it gotta be gnarly looking otherwise it's just gonna be carch 2
runic tiger
I mean tbf its just too popular an animal not to include right?
sharp dock
yea
autumn plover
They should actually add a second Carcharodontosaurus model to the game, give it a chin, call it Giga and see how long it takes for people to realise it’s just Carcha 
runic tiger
I get that another carch in any other circomstance is mid pick
sharp dock
so the devs might even consider mapu as well despite how ridiculously similar all three are
runic tiger
But the giga namesake, just too publicly known
sharp dock
yup
but giga aside
allo and bary as well since they are p much confirmed
what u choosin
runic tiger
so the devs might even consider mapu as well despite how ridiculously similar al...
I mean giga alt realistically, pull a rex tarbo situation
Would be nice to have someone alongside argent
autumn plover
But the giga namesake, just too publicly known
They should use it as a DlC bait to rinse fanboys and get 5-6 other animals actually worth adding in-game
sharp dock
I mean giga alt realistically, pull a rex tarbo situation
Would be nice to have...
yeah I'd be totally fine with that
I think Ceratosaurus, Carnotaurus and Australovenator are almost guaranteed to get added
sharp dock
ceratosaurus and carnotaurus because they are super iconic, australo because it adds megaraptoran rep and is the big australian predator
honestly I dont find suchomimus all that appealing, people like to pretend it's so much different to bary when it really aint
autumn plover
It’s certainly has differences anatomy wise
sharp dock
but if they add it I kinda dont care
autumn plover
And behaviour wise it it was certainly different
Most terrestrial Spinosaur
But I digress not necessary for EA
runic tiger
For general theropods, probably just the iconic ones
Carno, utahraptor, cerato, therizino- and I'd personally pick gigantoraptor
sharp dock
gigantoraptor would be nice
runic tiger
Because I like the big chicken
runic tiger
ceratosaurus and carnotaurus because they are super iconic, australo because it ...
Just one megaraptor would be cool, australo a good one
I could see maip or one of the other weird ones
But australo would make the mesozoic aussie sections feel complete
sharp dock
yeah australo is a bit of a compromise
what it misses in weird it compensates in australian rep
also the devs can just get some liberty on it and just make the claws cool looking still
autumn plover
I’d say Australovenator plus 1 other Megaraptorid as an alt
Then you get weird and Aussie rep
The upside of megaraptorids in-General being quite frag is that’s it’s easier to make them alts
sharp dock
ngl I kinda undermine the alt potential sometimes
but any case I rather focus on og species instead of discussing what alts can be made from what
like australovenator maip or giga mapu
autumn plover
That’s why I don’t like Maip/megaraptor/australo idea floating around
1 alt is fine but 2 and suddenly the og species has only 1 skin
sharp dock
let it just be australo for now
like it's obviously the top 1 contender, everything else is just icing on top
outer moth
ngl I kinda undermine the alt potential sometimes
I do it reasonably, more or less
I always look at the phylogeny first
sharp dock
the phylogeny would be minimal
i think
anyway
what else...............
also besides utah I think austroraptor would be the best raptor addition evah
plush nacelle
Hesperornis
lean hound
Stegosaurus, Allosaurus, Gallimimus
baryonyx is also confirmed
lean hound
1 alt is fine but 2 and suddenly the og species has only 1 skin
you're gonna hate when allo drops
autumn plover
you're gonna hate when allo drops
Hey im not the guy arguing against alt species here
solemn cedar
Shasta ground sloth?
Yep
faint snow
Ground sloths like Megatherium and the even larger Eremotherium would make for more large mammals in PK.
loud lark
Ground sloths like Megatherium and the even larger Eremotherium would make for m...
Megatherium and Eremotherium were about the same size, with megatherium being more robust while eremotherium having longer limbs like arms and feet and tail etc
faint snow
Megatherium and Eremotherium were about the same size, with megatherium being mo...
Dang I I didn’t know that thanks
trail gyro
name a more iconic duo ill wait
Anomalocaris and trilobite
trail gyro
No shade at my pookie wookie Inostrancevia though
slim flare
Anomalocaris and trilobite
Tbh Anoma didn’t even eat trilobites
quaint plank
Jaekelopterus
For the sole reason of a dumb ai video saying it liked human flesh and it makes me laugh
leaden hedge
name a more iconic duo ill wait
HMS Hood and KMS Bismarck
next saffron
Do we know what the next creatures are gonna be?
hollow furnace
Gallimimus is coming next update
naive storm
Acro and Carcha plus Concavenator are all the Carcha we really need
whos we
trail gyro
Sane people
next saffron
You know who I would like to see? Andrewsarchus.
trail gyro
Viatkogorgon
median relic
so the ontogeny of rex being based on nano for younger stages, does this mean nano is probably off limits for coming to the game
feral cedar
Viatkogorgon
deep lake
*HMS Hood and KMS Bismarck*
Best namea for anything for a history loveing person as i
plucky mantle
I have made three lists, organized by Dinos/Cenozoics/Paleozoics and non-dino mesozoics
open heron
Haven't caught up with Palaeozoic stuff in a while but wouldn't the Tapinocephalus Assemblage Zone stuff be boreal compatible?
Recall that area being fairly close to the poles and the permian even having icecaps.
plucky mantle
It was comparable to Mongolia albeit a bit wetter
So it depends on if you would consider Mongolia 'boreal'
open heron
I believe it does have some taiga to its north
but really I think anything suitably cold should be counted
just based on how the strictest definition of the biome will get basically nothing beyond what it has now
sharp dock
so the ontogeny of rex being based on nano for younger stages, does this mean na...
Quite on the contrary, nano is already in the game
:)
median relic
Quite on the contrary, nano is already in the game
I'm gonna get you...
hollow furnace
Quite on the contrary, nano is already in the game
Don't be silly, if nano is in the game how is he supposed to make the music???
inner wedge
how it feels to be in the pk discord and think dinosaurs are lamer than the rest
sharp dock
I'm gonna get you...
Set t rex neoteny to 20-50% there you go, nanotyrannus
plush nacelle
just based on how the strictest definition of the biome will get basically nothi...
Boreal is just not really diverse biome. From list provided above arctodus and macrauchenia also would get one and maybe megatherium, if we are pushing it.
lean hound
I think recent extinctions would do a great dlc
sharp dock
yup, that
lean hound
I may be wrong but it's planned
sharp dock
is it?
lean hound
I'm all for it
yeah it'll be great
ancient ibex
Mmm, while IMO Penta and Lepto+Udano are the better ceratopsian additions, Turano/Zuni could be neat lil' dudes
sharp dock
Nothingburgeratops
late bobcat
outer moth
Very strange animal yea
low bridge
Aenocyon when?
outer crater
Hyaenodon when?
low bridge
Mee6 when?
limber nexus
If anyone here hasn’t taken the poll
heavy scarab
If they do give us the recently extinct expansion I just want the Passenger Pigeon as an arboreal terrarium animal
lean hound
If they do give us the recently extinct expansion I just want the Passenger Pige...
definitely gonna be a terrarium animal if it comes
outer moth
If anyone here hasn’t taken the poll
https://forms.gle/5A61tsJsEyrxTLoRA
There were too many choices so I picked a few random ones
Hope we have many of these
limber nexus
There were too many choices so I picked a few random ones
There are a lot of creatures on this list that I would like, but it’s probably under 30 of them
Because a lot of these creatures are just unnecessary
buoyant zephyr
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a good idea of how it lived could get in the game
lean hound
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a ...
lukewarm take
buoyant zephyr
Not for some
limber nexus
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a ...
Ehhhhhhh
runic tiger
If anyone here hasn’t taken the poll
https://forms.gle/5A61tsJsEyrxTLoRA
When will the poll results be posted?
limber nexus
When will the poll results be posted?
May ish, as I’m making a video on the results
runic tiger
Why?
Can't you just like post them
Itd be a lot more convient for people who took the questionnaire to see the results
Rather than watching a full video
limber nexus
Itd be a lot more convient for people who took the questionnaire to see the resu...
1: I spent way too much time and effort on this not to get any benefit
And 2: A Video can ultimately be more entertaining than a list
And if I make a good video, I would have added more to the community than if I just posted a list of the top 10
median relic
I genuinely think having basically almost modern animals in this game will be fun
dimetrodon and great auk, could hardly be more different in age but united in extinction 🙏
limber nexus
dimetrodon and great auk, could hardly be more different in age but united in ex...
Great Auk, more like Goat
But hesperonis walked so the great Auk could run
median relic
But hesperonis walked so the great Auk could run
cohabiting these two in game would be so sick oh god
lost saffron
Tyrannotitan
Could def be a giga alt
runic tiger
1: I spent way too much time and effort on this not to get any benefit
And 2: ...
I didn't realize you were doing this for your 'benefit"
autumn plover
Would take Concavenator over Giga unironically
slim flare
It’s a juvenile
toxic oriole
Hmmm...
Zuniceratops
Tryna find a good size chart
Best I can get is this image
... Nevermind, its probably either a sub-adult or a juvenile
Maybe Mesophryne and Liaobatrachus, two mesozoic frogs of the cretaceous
safe kestrel
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a ...
Been saying that for a long time
Well known, more complete fossil should be the priority
Including the small one like scelido
left spear
is it?
We got confirmations It would be one of the first, and unless they want to add Haast's and steller's imo it's gonna be the first dlc, we also have confirmation than a Wild Horse and Quagga Will be in It.
sharp dock
A wild horse is so slay
left spear
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a ...
I mean could yes, but should? Like when we get like 3 differently sized trilobites i wouldn't want another in place of another more unique animal just because the trilobite is more complete.
left spear
A wild horse is so slay
I'm hoping for Occidental (american) Horse with the Quagga alt
Quagga being the main species would be weird af
left spear
Personally i think It could fit, but some people Will argue it's too old
sharp dock
wdym too old
left spear
wdym too old
I don't remember Who It was but when i proposed Mekosuchus (which i retrospective i don't want since i want It in a dedicated island DLC) as a candidate (3.000 years old) someone (one of the regulars) said It wasn't recently extinct, and a lot of people seemed to agreee, Hippi is 8.500 years old
sharp dock
huh ah yeah I dont mean it as part of the recently extinct pack
sharp dock
the recently extinct pack should be historical times
also it doesn't really need any tweaks
maybe 1 mini exhibit would go well
(passenger pigeon)
or the hawaii o'o
left spear
Imo anything as old or more recent than Mesopotamia is fair Game.
sharp dock
honestly I think they better keep it simple, the island extinction slope is far too great for them to manage
😵💫 😵💫 😵💫 😵💫
sharp dock
Imo anything as old or more recent than Mesopotamia is fair Game.
and how old is that
left spear
5.000
sharp dock
didnt mammoths go extinct like more recently than that
autumn plover
Hot take: I think any creature that has a decent fossil record and/or we have a ...
I’d say the opposite, any creature that has a poor fossil record or is very fragmentary should be disqualified as an addition, exceptions are if they are very popular or are already in-game
For example: Nanuqsaurus which is literally just a piece of jaw
sharp dock
a lot of popular species are very fragmentary
including some that are yet to be added I think
for exampol
UUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
honestly I could only think of brachy and carch
and those already in lole
plush nacelle
Kelenken
plush nacelle
Thats probably most fragmenty future addition I can think of
sharp dock
hmmmmmmmm
lean hound
a lot of popular species are very fragmentary
spinosaurus
autumn plover
honestly I could only think of brachy and carch
Hence why I said already in
left spear
didnt mammoths go extinct like more recently than that
Around that time, but those were the wrangle survivors, at that time there hadn't a mammoth on Siberia for like 8.000 years
So the game's mammoths went extinct like 12.000-15.000 years ago
sharp dock
If I were a clinically insane person I would say something deranged like
we sooooooo need Sardinian pikas (prolagus sardus)
sharp dock
Hodari? Kinda ig? He is a good artist but his artworks are often on the fantastical side
rather than the down to earth side
like no megalenhydris would not try to hunt a hammerhead shark, it wasn't big enough and was a specialized benthic forager
people using that artwork for reference is just warping their perception of what the actual animal was and it's annoying having to clarify
lean hound
people using that artwork for reference is just warping their perception of what...
fair enough
I just used it because it's the most recognisable art of it
sharp dock
yeah and I hate that
it shouldn't be
but awesomebro artworks sell ig
not that there are many megalenhydris artworks unfortunately
lean hound
no we need the sardinian otter <:velo_angry:1156526743755178014>
on the topic of sardinia it looks exactly like the scrubland map
parts of it at least
outer moth
I mean it is similar since it's in the same region
sharp dock
u know what a good addition would be
Myotragus 🔥
lean hound
lean hound
u know what a good addition would be
Myotragus 🔥
hell yeah 
sharp dock
I really hope it's not too small tho...
like
myotragus is quite small lol
it would be one of the smallest animals in the game if added
lean hound
it would be one of the smallest animals in the game if added
excluding terrarium animals of course
outer moth
Terrarium?
outer moth
I know but ontogeny would be a bit hard for mytragus
sharp dock
I doubt that
sharp dock
why would it be hard to begin with
it would be no different from any other animal already in
outer moth
Prop myotragus when
sharp dock
no >:(
outer moth
Myotragus was actually multiple small Myotraguses together as one
sharp dock
i wanna know why u said ontogeny would be hard for myotragus
outer moth
i wanna know why u said ontogeny would be hard for myotragus
I guess since the babies would be way smaller than velo I suppose
sharp dock
I guess since the babies would be way smaller than velo I suppose
what makes you think that
baby myotragus would be bigger than baby velo
they didn't come out of an egg
outer moth
baby myotragus would be bigger than baby velo
Yeah but for a cold blooded mammal I doubt they'd be that big
ancient ibex
like no megalenhydris would not try to hunt a hammerhead shark, it wasn't big en...
As a zoologist, never fucking underestimate mustelids
ancient ibex
Yeah but for a cold blooded mammal I doubt they'd be that big
They would be big
Ungulates need to come out of the womb walking
outer moth
Ah, valid
outer moth
As a zoologist, never fucking underestimate mustelids
As a hobby zoologist, Erior is right
Even specialist mustelids will eat anything under the right circumstance
What's disturbing is they're not just this opportunistic with food
trust me
sharp dock
I don't underestimate them, I'm being realistic
trust me bro, you shouldn't underestimate bears
ancient ibex
Sea otters have been observed catching sharks, stoats will hunt rabbits and hares, wolverines and ratels will confront the apex predators of their environments
ancient ibex
trust me bro, you shouldn't underestimate bears
It is not this kind of stuff, it is mustelids being observed to consistently be insane
outer moth
It is not this kind of stuff, it is mustelids being observed to consistently be ...
Bit too insane
Never ask what a sea otter can do to an unattended penguin or sea lion cub
ancient ibex
In addition, hammerheads are not a single shark species, but a quite variable clade
sharp dock
This is what I'm talking about
what you see there is a small shark
not a hammerhead
ancient ibex
Yeah, it is a nurse shark being caught by a sea otter
Scalloped hammerheads are that size
sharp dock
scalloped hammerheads are that small?
ancient ibex
A meter and a half long on average
Smooth and great hammerheads are the ones that get to 5+ meters
ancient ibex
A meter and a half long on average
Males
sharp dock
then the one in the artwork is clearly not a scalloped hammerhead
ancient ibex
Females get larger
But still, blue shark sized roughly speaking
Still, can see an otter tangling with a shark its size
outer moth
What is it's a pleistocene hammerhead species?
sharp dock
megalenhydris hunting a mid sized benthic shark species I can buy
megalenhydris hunting a pelagic 5+ meter hammerhead shark is pure fantasy
and no, stoats hunting rabbits is not a justification for it
sharp dock
please show me a giant otter eating a caiman that doubles its size
I'll wait :)
funny you would consider a small caiman not on the level of the benthic shark
outer moth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIoQGs8lvxk
This is scarier than being mauled by piranhas
ancient ibex
The paper constricting Megalenhydris to a benthic diet is also, honestly, quite bare bones; it finds out it had quite robust and pointy teeth, but it is 5 pages long and basically just has throwaway lines about niche partitioning
ancient ibex
thats a full family of otters
The thing is, they WILL fight larger predators and consume them
lean hound
what you see there is a small shark
but the size difference is similar to the artwork of mega
sharp dock
but the size difference is similar to the artwork of mega
no??? In the artwork it is fighting a shark thats clearly much bigger
in the picture the nurse shark is smaller than the otter
lean hound
no??? In the artwork it is fighting a shark thats clearly much bigger
similar
sharp dock
how is the size difference similar?
ancient ibex
Biology also runs on exceptions and weirdness rather than on rules, despite the intentions of internet people who want to tell others that they are wrong...
sharp dock
**similar**
dude that is not what similar means in the slightest ._.
sharp dock
The paper constricting Megalenhydris to a benthic diet is also, honestly, quite ...
also regarding this another good indicative of the benthic lifestyle is the hip bones and vertebrae showing signs that it was adapted to go down and up quickly
so basically
forage on the bottom
go up for air
go to the bottom again
ancient ibex
Good, specialized, but that doesn't mean constrained
sharp dock
anyway I think the convo is extending far beyond the point of this thread
and honestly I have better things to do than insist on such a fruitless topic
if you wanna believe on that absurd artwork be my guest
but I rather think of animals realistically
ancient ibex
Again, stoats hunting hares
lean hound
if you wanna believe on that absurd artwork be my guest
I don't directly believe it but I'm not against it
ancient ibex
Animals are ridiculous, mustelids in general are even more ridiculous, and the main issue with paleontology has consistently be ignoring living animals
ancient ibex
If only we could examine it
Fucking Spinosaurus holotype is more accessible
Carcha holotype was the basis of 2 genera, the second one 80 years after its destruction
Meanwhile, Pelecanimimus remains out of sight because Spanish academia is this weird chestbeating autofellatory circle
Concavenator got a neat description and good pics of the holotype, but Pelecanimimus is an awesome animal that has been locked away for 30 years
ancient ibex
Oh yeah, it is insidiously hard to approach
sharp dock
why is it?
ancient ibex
No images allowed
outer moth
Animals are ridiculous, mustelids in general are even more ridiculous, and the m...
Hence why the spino debates are dumb
I feel like Spinosaurus could've had varied fishing styles
ancient ibex
where is it stored
Cuenca Museum I believe?
https://rac.es/ficheros/doc/00019.pdf These remain the only images of the specimen I think
sharp dock
thats an article from freaking 1994
ancient ibex
Yeah
Original description
Again, the Spino holotype remains more accessible
And was blown up 80 years ago
sharp dock
and is like the cuenca museum against it being studied or what exactly
ancient ibex
I believe it is an issue of a single scientist or something
Our uni professors are... weird as a rule; I know you are from Spain but don't know if you started Uni here, as a single week of class with the average prof will tell you everything you need to know about their selfcenteredness
sharp dock
that's in every uni
safe kestrel
yea thats every uni
ancient ibex
I mean, even worse when they don't know a bit of English and decide that the entire world is just what they can understand lol
Concavenator in 2010 had thermorregulation as an explanation for its neural spines, in the same paper that there was mention of feathers
That's a literal fossil professor pushing something decades outdated
Buuut, yeah, I'll keep pushing for a Barremian Europe roster of Iguanodon, Baryonyx, Polacanthus, Hypsilophodon, Pelecanimimus and Concavenator; some wiggle room in Conca's size, due to Altispinax likely being closer and being a bit larger than the holotype of Conca, and I believe that's a neat roster
Istiodactylus once large pterosaurs are viable; the cookiecutter vulture is awesome
safe kestrel
I shall take my own hands on the matter
we should raid depalma's house
GET DOWN
GET DOWN ON THE FLOOR
WHERE THE FOSSIL DE PALMA
outer moth
we should raid depalma's house
And Horner's place
runic tiger
And Horner's place
There are a few good mesozoic European species to pick from, conca and peli, europasaurus, tethyshadros
I'd really like to see megalosaurus in the game some day
sharp dock
isn't torvo the cooler megalosaurus
runic tiger
Round out the crystal palace representation
outer moth
https://tenor.com/view/msnbc-nbc-dateline-tcap-to-catch-a-predator-gif-471546894...
Yes, that's who we're sending
runic tiger
They're so physically similar I'll just be using a neotenic torvo in game for now
outer moth
I'm pretty sure Megalo got changed up
runic tiger
But idk it's such an important dino, the other half to iggy
Really? I'm out of the loop
left spear
I know but ontogeny would be a bit hard for mytragus
Just a small goat, if we have velo and psitacco i really don't see why myo would be a problem
sharp dock
I mean it's culturally significant but it's not a popular animal in itself
like you dont see kids saying megalosaurus is their favorite dinosaur
it's the basic bitch dino for those who minimally learn about the history of paleontology
Europasaurus would be cool ngl.... dwarf sauropod
there are so many cool sauropods, its kinda unfair lol
outer moth
Really? I'm out of the loop
Got a more Monolopho-based design
left spear
Cuenca Museum I believe?
Yep, Conc is there iirc
runic tiger
Europasaurus would be cool ngl.... dwarf sauropod
Neotenic brachy to cope for now, but yes would be dope
runic tiger
Got a more Monolopho-based design
Thought that was purely speculative
sharp dock
Europasaurus, Nigersaurus, Amargasaurus, Diplodocus, Mamenchisaurus 💀
runic tiger
You forgot shuno
runic tiger
But you did forget the alamo
sharp dock
you don't need shuno no more
runic tiger
Always remember the Alamo
runic tiger
add the tail mace to mamenchi, done
I used to be in this boat but it's not the same, like one is a lil tail nodule, the other is a thagomizer club
Like full on weaponry its so cool
sharp dock
I don't care, devs can take the artistic liberty to make it a thagomizer
runic tiger
sharp dock
the shunosaurus discourse brings me memories
runic tiger
Plus same formation as yang
ancient ibex
Honestly, Magyarosaurus is IMO the better dwarf sauropod, because a Hatzeg pack would go hard
sharp dock
where isisaurus.............................
outer moth
Shuno's entire formation definitely deserves lots of rep
Seeing as Shaximiao is like an asian version of the Morrison
ancient ibex
literally camarasaurus with a tail knob
Literally not knowing a bit about sauropods
sharp dock
tryna find the image I made years ago
runic tiger
Actually I have no idea if the thagomizers are still accepted knowledge, seeing more modern reconstructions without them
sharp dock
Oh I found it
runic tiger
But anyways agree to disagree I just think it'd be cool to have both mamench and shuno
sharp dock
from freaking 5 years ago 😭
runic tiger
He's made me the soyjack... I have lost...
sharp dock
honestly if they decide to add it I don't mind but it is the most boring small sauropod of the ones that are usually suggested lole
outer moth
Shuno's entire formation definitely deserves lots of rep
Seeing as Shaximiao is ...
Seeing as it has a good theropod rep, tons of stegosaurians, and unique sauropods
runic tiger
Honestly I think my most niche sauropod pull would be sauroposideon (which isn't niche nor that crazy)
But it kinda is just... longer brachy
But it'd just be cool cloverly rep, maybe throw it in some pack themed around animal sizes with shantung or giga or smth
sharp dock
also shaximiao has mamenchi so what makes you think shuno would be added over mamenchi 🤔
mamenchi: the cooler shuno
runic tiger
I think they're both cool B)
outer moth
I prefer Yang
sharp dock
but like I know it will never be added 😔
I will protect my nothingburger dinosaur at all costs
runic tiger
The neotenic system allows for a lot
I think you could definitely fake it with one of the allosaurs at like 15% growth
sharp dock
gasosaurus' only job is appearing in artworks being mauled by shuno
runic tiger
gasosaurus' only job is appearing in artworks being mauled by shuno
When shuno needs to maul something in paleoart
sharp dock
but he does an excellent job so I love him
also it has a funny name
and honestly you gotta appreciate how basic of a dinosaur it is.... so humble.............
gasosaurus is the very essence of humility.... in dinosaur form......
outer moth
I prefer Yang
I like the bulldog feel new Yang has
autumn plover
if we're getting any metriacanthosaurid it should be Yang
left spear
if we're getting any metriacanthosaurid it should be Yang
Eh, metri with a yang alt
autumn plover
Metri is fragmentary asf and at one point Yang was actually planned for the game
they're not even each other's closest relatives, terrible alt potential
unless theres a more recent family tree later than 2013
ancient ibex
from freaking 5 years ago 😭
Basically just proof of dinosaur fans just being megatheropod fans
ancient ibex
Eh, metri with a yang alt
Metri is ass, literally
As in it is just an ass
Every single Metri recon you see is Sinraptor
autumn plover
^only popular because it was onscreen a couple seconds in JP which led to it being in JWE
for Metri
ancient ibex
Name would be ignored if Paul didn't lump everything into it in PDotW and thus snuck as a filler name in JP
autumn plover
literally clout for no reason
ancient ibex
Sinraptor is the most vanilla theropod ever according to theropod workers lol
autumn plover
tbf the skull is a bit basic
outer moth
Unlike the Yang
ancient ibex
It is vanilla, never said it was bad
autumn plover
outer moth
Unlike the Yang
Who has the coolest Metricanthosaur skull
ancient ibex
Younger yangs would likely look more like Sinraptor after all
autumn plover
It is vanilla, never said it was bad
neither did I, I said basic
outer moth
Younger yangs would likely look more like Sinraptor after all
So use em as baby alts
Since that seems to be a trend nowadays
deep lake
kaikaifilu and mosasaurus hoffmannii
hollow flower
Could Tullimonstrum be a viable addition as a mini or an ambient animal?
deep lake
ambiet? what do that mean?
deep lake
Could Tullimonstrum be a viable addition as a mini or an ambient animal?
we need that lol
deep lake
what dis ambient mean?
sharp dock
we shall never know
hollow flower
like
safe kestrel
He mean ambience animal
hollow flower
well lets say they add aquariums
deep lake
He mean ambience animal
what do that mean?
safe kestrel
Like squirrel in ZT2
hollow flower
some things are a little too small to be added singularly in and they dont make the cut for terrariums either
so you just add say
a school of them
say a bunch of ammonites for example
safe kestrel
what do that mean?
An animal that randomly appeared and we can't control it
hollow flower
my wording on that wasnt exactly great
deep lake
An animal that randomly appeared and we can't control it
ah oke
safe kestrel
sharp dock
I think it's a bit early to talk about aquatics
hollow flower
I think jwe2 has this with the fish from the aquatic fish feeder but im uncertain
lean hound
what dis ambient mean?
"Ambient is an adjective used to describe an aspect of the environment that completely surrounds you, but in a mellow way, like ambient music played softly throughout a restaurant, or the ambient orange glow during a setting sun."
but in this context an ambient animal is like a prop, not a fully functional animal, just something in the background
left spear
Could Tullimonstrum be a viable addition as a mini or an ambient animal?
If you use the biggest estimates (25cm) then yes
left spear
p sure tullimonstrum is around the size of a potato
Eh it's similar in lenght to something like micro so maybe
inner wedge
tully is (sadly) too small
we're gonna miss out on the PEAK that are cambrian animals cause the vast majority is too tiny even for terrariums
tired storm
Amargasaurus🙏
sharp dock
Did this guy just say amogusaurus.............
left spear
tully is (sadly) too small
Biggest estimates are 35cm long, tbh i wouldn't mind if they went for those
Also mini Aquariums will probably be smaller than mini exhibits
Since due to them be "3d" the space needed for animals would be lower
inner wedge
yeah but most cambrian animals are REALLY small
alongside being very complex to model
don't think devs would bother adding anyone aside The Endless
ancient ibex
Anomalocaris is a giant by Cambrian standards and it was lobster sized
hollow flower
On the topic of early paleozoic animals, Endoceras as an exhibit creature would be neat to see
but yeah Omnidens is obscure, large and cool enough to be a very good addition
inner wedge
endoceras being vertical all the time would be interesting to see
inner wedge
speaking of paleozoic species i had a few ideas in my chart here #1360542295228944414 message
junior glacier
I submit crassigyrinus scoticus as an exhibit animal, would love to have him as a nod to Prehistoric Park and give us another water fellow alongside Tiktaalik
sage gull
I want the Diplocaulus for terrarium
junior wasp
Please add my glorious king beezlbufo as anything but a terrarium creature.
lean hound
Please add my glorious king beezlbufo as anything but a terrarium creature.
please add fish but don't make them swim
junior wasp
please add fish but don't make them swim
Wut
inner wedge
rude
lean hound
I just had a idea
go on
junior wasp
No
inner wedge
but bufo is pretty small tho
junior wasp
You don’t get to hear it
junior wasp
but bufo is pretty small tho
Exactly
lean hound
Exactly
therefor it would be a terrarium animal
People keep modern day frogs in terrariums
hollow furnace
Beelzebufo, if it came, would only come as a terrarium animal
It's too small and ontogeny is too difficult for otherwise
junior wasp
beelzebufo is cool
You understand
hollow furnace
Beelz is very cool, but he'd be a very cool terrarium animal
lean hound
if he's not in u16 we riot
I want my glorious king diplocaulus
sharp dock
diplocaulus would be slay
inner wedge
diploceraspis is the cooler diplocaulus
sharp dock
who
inner wedge
i felt that
inner wedge
mau said it's not coming
hollow furnace
nope
hollow furnace
It was on the list Mau killed
junior wasp
Ok I finished typing my idea in the enrichment thread
lean hound
mau said it's not coming
in u16
sharp dock
u mean the list with compsognathus and stuff?
inner wedge
he publicly announced mononykus' death in main
lean hound
u mean the list with compsognathus and stuff?
mono was never confirmed
sharp dock
fr?
inner wedge
yeah that list
sharp dock
wasn't it quite clearly in the list he posted
????
like I know it was blurry but it was fairly clear
inner wedge
which means diictodon and peltephilus are probably out too
lean hound
he publicly announced mononykus' death in main
he only said the speculation for u16 roadmap image was 100% wrong
sharp dock
????
hollow furnace
Mau said no to Diictodon, Mononykus, Peltephilus, and Beelzebufo
lean hound
Mau said no to Diictodon, Mononykus, Peltephilus, and Beelzebufo
ever?!
inner wedge
(i huff hopium everyday for it being real tho)
lean hound
or just u16
sharp dock
didn't we quite literally get simosuchus right
hollow furnace
inner wedge
bullshi
hollow furnace
inner wedge
bitch ass castorocauda ain't got anything over the Bufo
lean hound
so they could potentially come after u16 at some point?
sharp dock
I dont recall the image quality being this bad
inner wedge
so they could potentially come after u16 at some point?
yeah ath the end of the day nothing is out
hollow furnace
I dont recall the image quality being this bad
then you remember wrong haha
sharp dock
then you remember wrong haha
hollow furnace
That is a heavily upscaled version, not the original
sharp dock
can you link me mau's original post of the image
hollow furnace
sharp dock
ty <3
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
maybe its my mind but I still can at least see compsognathus being there
hollow furnace
Which would make sense considering Compsoganthus was known beforehand anyways
Mau presumably meant that pkdino's list was wrong, not all the animals we'd guessed
sharp dock
Simosuchus was confirmed afterwards though and it was fairly clear in the focalized image
hollow furnace
Also possible plans changed since then anyways, we did go from 5 to 9 animals in update 16
sharp dock
kinda sad he disproved mono 😦 it's a really good pick
can't really think of much regarding minis
Ok so while I was le brushing me teeth i thought of da possible contenders
They said there would be 3 mini exhibit types right?
hollow furnace
Yes
sharp dock
If i recall arboreal, amphibian and burrow
hollow furnace
They’re also a arboreal lizard, a fuzzy Triassic thing, 2 weird dinosaurs, and a semi aquatic mammal
hollow furnace
If i recall arboreal, amphibian and burrow
Essentially
sharp dock
They’re also a arboreal lizard, a fuzzy Triassic thing, 2 weird dinosaurs, and a...
When they said this?
hollow furnace
MAU after he deconfirmed pkdino’s list
slow shoal
also we know the diets too
im assuming the fuzzy triassic thing is prolly thrinaxodon
sharp dock
Because of wwd right
Makes sense
Also, semiaquatic mammal...
Small semiaquatic mammal
silver steeple
Because of wwd right
There's also just not a ton of other options tbh
Like I guess other creatures in the same family but why not choose the best known at that point
hollow furnace
Small semiaquatic mammal
Castorocauda and Didelphodon are the two most common guesses so far
sharp dock
Any reason why it wouldnt be indohyus?
hollow furnace
Indohyus would work
silver steeple
Idk the size refs on google are all over the place lol
sharp dock
If you search for size refs you get pakicetys
silver steeple
Ah
sharp dock
Indohyus was around the size of a cat
Its kind of a mouse deer in many ways
I think it fits
Way better than something like castorocauda lol
silver steeple
Indo would def be a contender
I think a weird little jurassic or cretaceous mammal would be cool tho
Just from like a variety standpoint
sharp dock
The arboreal lizard defo gonna be either drepanosaurus or coelurosauravus
hollow furnace
Just from like a variety standpoint
Especially if we do get Ambulocetus in u18
sharp dock
Possibly the later as drepano is most likely too small
silver steeple
The arboreal lizard defo gonna be either drepanosaurus or coelurosauravus
Could be Longisquama imo
sharp dock
Longisquama is 15 cm long
silver steeple
I don't see how Drep is too small
And there are larger species in the family
Hypurnecton or whatever
sharp dock
Have you seen the size of the mini exhibit?
silver steeple
sharp dock
Hmmmm still kinda small, not as small as I thought tho
hollow furnace
Drepenosaurus is the largest out of it, Coeluro, and Longisquama, by a very significant margin
silver steeple
Its like the size of larger chameleons iirc
sharp dock
Coeluro is smaller?
hollow furnace
Yeah
silver steeple
Oh yeah
silver steeple
Finding anything on coeluro that isn't Peters is painful lmao
sharp dock
Gonna be kinda funny having such an humongous box for a tiny lizard
Wait
Lemme think
silver steeple
Gonna be kinda funny having such an humongous box for a tiny lizard
Throw in like 15 of the buggers
sharp dock
Drepano/coeluro: insectivore
????: herbivore
Thrinaxodon: carni
Indohyus: piscivore
????: carnivore
Well
Indohyus could be the herb lol idk what its diet was
So for the 2 weird dinos
silver steeple
Google lists it as omnivore
But I think the game could easily call it a piscovore
sharp dock
One is either pisc/herb and the other is a carnivore
I think i know what one is gonna be
What was it called
Liaoningosaurus
Thats one
silver steeple
That's also a juvie
plush nacelle
Herbi is most likely heterodontosaurid of some sort
silver steeple
That's not a bad bet
Tianyulong would make sense there imo
Tiny guy, even among heterodontosaurs
hollow furnace
Honestly almost every heterodontosaurid, even heterodontosaurus proper, could work as a terrarium
Heterodontosaurus itself would be on sort of the cusp
silver steeple
Honestly almost every heterodontosaurid, even heterodontosaurus proper, could wo...
Could yeah but most hit a weird spot of being kinda weird to fit?
sharp dock
Dinosaur options:
- sinosauropteryx
- kulindadromeus/fruitadens
- micropachycephalosaurus
- liaoningosaurus
silver steeple
Idk imo there's an awkward spot in terms of sizes
Imo most heterodontosaurs kinda land there
sharp dock
Or wait, maybe switch kulinda for fruitadens idk
hollow furnace
My personal really weird want is Manidens
So we can have a non-flying/gliding arboreal dinosaur
sharp dock
Who
plush nacelle
Me think:
Terrestrial: simo, compy, thrinax
Arboreal: yi, drepano, manidens
Aqua: tikt, castorocauda and carni dino
silver steeple
My personal really weird want is Manidens
That would be fun
hollow furnace
probably fruitadens on account of being Morrison, but tbh both are very very obscure
The only reason people would known Fruitadens is on account of looking at the Morrison formation species list wikipedia page
sharp dock
Morrison huh
Nah I actually recall seeing news abt fruitadens
like i didnt get to know about it from wikipedia
Wait
What about heterodontosaurus
plush nacelle
Maybe cause it is the smallest ornithischian
silver steeple
Nah I actually recall seeing news abt fruitadens
There was that one paper a few days ago that called basically every small ornithopod in the Morrison besides it and dryo nomen dubia so
sharp dock
Actually checking het is like around compy in size
hollow furnace
What about heterodontosaurus
Heterodontosaurus would also work, depending on which specimen you use it's kinda into the size range of full exhibit but in theory could be either
sharp dock
Then my bet is on heterodontosaurus
hollow furnace
And like, we got Tiktaalik as a terrarium, despite some specimens getting up to the size of an American alligator
silver steeple
True
I guess size isn't that much of a constraint
Especially cause minis won't have size variation (or at least don't afaik)
So whatever the devs decide is the average is what we get
sharp dock
Excited to see what it is
silver steeple
Same