#Wade (& Knuckles) SPOILERS

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short atlas
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If shadow was there in 1974, and the bowling tournament in Knuckles is 50 years after, that means the knuckles series takes place during 2024.

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Does black doom have a body under his cloth
let that sink in

halcyon wadi
cursive mason
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why

potent shore
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Paramount Plus posted episode one for free on Youtube. https://youtu.be/-fm4FKKKWbs?si=imZ4S2G1kJSEJzZC

"The Warrior" - Knuckles struggles to adapt to his new life in Green Hills.

Join the echidna warrior from the cinematic world of Sonic the Hedgehog in this six-episode event. Stream Knuckles now, exclusively on Paramount+.

The new live-action event series follows Knuckles (Idris Elba) on a hilarious and action-packed journey of self-discovery ...

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blissful shell
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except the roof scene, that was pretty good

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also im glad they got Colleen back to voice Tails :)

gritty bridge
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he's like the movies, nothing crazy, if anything he's more mature here, acts as a big brother

blissful shell
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idk, maybe i was distracted by the tiktok

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and the product placement

gritty bridge
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maybe

blissful shell
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who knows

gritty bridge
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I'm honestly glad Sonic and Tails are in the intro every episode, I really like the intro also

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and Sonic introducing Knuckles in the first ep was pretty fitting as a passing the torch kind of thing, nice touch

blissful shell
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yea i guess so

novel locust
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I just realized something.
Old habits never die from G.U.N, so as they found out the buyer had connections to Robotnik.
They straight up try to off him to shred evidence or any trace of his existence or ties because of what transpired in san Francisco

blissful shell
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I like the part where Knuckles goes "no."

gritty bridge
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The GUN backstory stuff was okay, might be important later but for now it was barely even used... they probably put it as setup for Sonic 3

blissful shell
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id say in terms of the sonic movies specifically, id rank this one on the same level as sonic 1

gritty bridge
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same

blissful shell
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not the best, but charming and inoffensive enough

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i hope sonic 3 is better

gritty bridge
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as I said while I wish Knuckles was more the center, I liked that the relationship with him and Wade was different than the Sonic & Tom one

blissful shell
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also Iblis being here is pretty friggin insane

gritty bridge
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where Knuckles is the mature one instead of the human character

gritty bridge
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although ep 4 might be my favorite

rustic fjord
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Honestly I kinda prefer this over knuckles just, expositioning.

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The presentation was really fun

blissful shell
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gritty bridge
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it was but how about making the story Knuckles getting the flames of disaster? That would have been cool too

blissful shell
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and then i got green hill jumpscared :(

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and then it got funny again :)

gritty bridge
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I like that they confirmed the echidnas and owls killed each other lol, it wasn't clear before tbh

rustic fjord
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I really don't understand the level of hate this is getting

gritty bridge
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Sonic fans hate fun confirmed?

rustic fjord
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Like, I get knuckles isn't as front and centre but what exactly did we expect the show was gonna be, beyond what was advertised

blissful shell
gritty bridge
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I think people are enjoying it, fans are just vocal because they did not get what they wanted

blissful shell
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the 28% audience score on rt says otherwise

rustic fjord
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I guess I'm just trying to get what 'fans wanted' even means

blissful shell
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...

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i take back what i said, rt doesnt mean shit

rustic fjord
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Jesus christ 28%, you're joking right?

gritty bridge
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I didn't know that

potent shore
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nope

blissful shell
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oh nevermind its 75%

gritty bridge
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lol

blissful shell
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:ppppp

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i silly

rustic fjord
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Wouldn't have been fully surprised

potent shore
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67% Critics 75% audience at the moment

blissful shell
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seems fair

gritty bridge
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I also saw several positive tweets on twitter that are like, really popular

blissful shell
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oh yea also about the licensed music

rustic fjord
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I guess the annoying ones are just that vocal.

blissful shell
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idk what everyone else was expecting

rustic fjord
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I don't hate the licensed music

gritty bridge
rustic fjord
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It fits the scenes they're in, and it also fits in the context of the story and characters.

blissful shell
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obviously they aint gonna use game music, they're probably saving that for sonic 3

potent shore
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I watched a youtube video yesterday when I did a search for Knuckles and Iblis, I don't know anything about Sonic 06 lore, But the video seems to point out that Knuckles will be the iblis trigger.

gritty bridge
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I already said it, but music gave me James Gunn vibes

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the stuff they used and the show vibe

blissful shell
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he hates grapes >:0

potent shore
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In episode 4 of the Knuckles Show, it dives into intresting story surrounding Knuckles and The flames of Disaster "Iblis". This will be a breakdown going over the episode and the song "Flames of Disaster" you can find lyrics in the link below.

Flames of Disaster Lyrics: https://genius.com/Julian-barratt-and-asa-taccone-flames-of-disaster-lyric...

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gilded lake
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Thought it was obvious anyways but ye

quartz quail
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Oh

potent shore
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Someone will want Shadow's quills.

unborn aurora
abstract spruce
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it is really the most "make it or break it" piece of modern Sonic media

wild bay
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If Sonic take place in 2014
The 50 years would be 1964

quartz quail
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Dude there is so manh of the same exact thumbnail format

mental arrow
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It’s gotta be the most effective one to get views sooo hate the game, not the player

winter dawn
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turns on my phone for the first time in hours:

quartz quail
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The fucking

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Vibe match up

abstract spruce
quartz quail
unborn aurora
random oar
abstract spruce
random oar
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mmmmh

abstract spruce
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(mostly)

random oar
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I mean you're kinda right

unborn aurora
trail ether
short atlas
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First they get hyped, they bring something down and bring it back up

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The horse ride

stone canyon
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Show was pretty cozy. Had ups and downs. But I like what they leave on the table for the rest of the series.

cursive mason
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same

stone canyon
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My vision of turning the human characters into the Power Rangers based on the Sonic characters is starting to grow feet with the fact Wade has Knuckles as his fursona and now his Gauntlets with his power.

cursive mason
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😭

gilded lake
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LMAO

random oar
quartz quail
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Not shadow the hedgehog...

median jacinth
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I mean

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Do we really want ShTH

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For real for real

random oar
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If you want Black Doom to do some bowling - yes

quartz quail
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I want black doom bowling

lost crown
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Black Doom Bowling.

gilded lake
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Welp I guess rip black doom

mental arrow
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Little Planet just drops by in like Montana for a week,

stone canyon
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Based on how they use names for locations. Little Planet is just a 90's Space-Themed Arcade Center.

mental arrow
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😀

unreal plume
mental arrow
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Right I forgot this is the Sonic movieverse

random oar
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Gonna have Soleanna, Texas

mental arrow
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😀😀😀

random oar
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And Mephiles is gonna be some obscure historic figure that participated in whatever civil war and became a national hero

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Or someone just names a cat like that

stone canyon
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Also for the location of where the Tournament of Champions took place, did it have a name? I expect it would be like Casino Night or Casinopolis.

cursive mason
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I wanna see blackdoom playing football

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there is no black doom

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emoji

quartz quail
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Honestly i want to see shadow and maria dancing to 60s/70s music

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Lilo and Stitch but tragic

unreal plume
quartz quail
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Lilo and Stitch isnt tragic lmao

unreal plume
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Lilo lost her parents, she is misunderstood and Nani has to do everything in her power to take care of both of them so she isn't taken away of her it's clearly a tragic thing

quartz quail
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I mean yea but

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Not lilo and stitch themselves

unreal plume
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I personally find both of them tragic

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but the movie makes sure to balance it up with their chaotic nature

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and how they make up for the other's flaws

stone canyon
quartz quail
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Dude i just meant that lilo didnt die lmfao

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Yes lilo has tragic things happening with her but SHE DOESNT DIE LMFAO

winter dawn
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i think i’ll genuinely kms if this ends up on my wrapped

cursive mason
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wy

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is cool

stone canyon
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When will we get the Crush 40 Ver.?

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Not if, but when.

cursive mason
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hopefully never 💀

stone canyon
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I wanna see them in-costumes though.

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Lol.

cursive mason
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honestly

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this was one of the best episodes lmao

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even if it didnt have knuckles at all

stone canyon
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Yeah. It is the best part of the show.

winter dawn
stone canyon
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What's something I picked up was how Pachamacha was demonizing the Owls in his retelling.

potent shore
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The whole thing with Wade and his collection of CDRs with music, Reminds me of Starlord and his Mixtapes on the Guardians of the Galaxy movies.

stone canyon
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Yeah. Pretty on the nose.

delicate elm
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nobody in recorded history has ever burned CDs and kept them as this is all a reference to Guardians of the Galaxy, the first time someone ever kept physical custom mixes ever

unborn aurora
stone canyon
unborn aurora
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Cause I was a little confused on how there was multiple owls attacking them and killed his dad if it was only LongClaw at that point

stone canyon
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Im thinking they are exxaggerating the events, which also explains their projection in that the owls are the ones who are using the Master Emerald to take over the universe.

delicate elm
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Possible vanguard seperate from the main tribe or whatnot aswell

unborn aurora
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It still surprises me LongClaw single-handedly took out the entire tribe while being injured

delicate elm
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Mom's go fucking above and beyond when trying to protect their kid, dude

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It's crazy

novel locust
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I said it in a tweet, but I still find it so neat how longclaw and Sonic deadass loved each other to death. When he acknowledges her and stuff, you can just tell in the small lil moments

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The big one obviously being the hologram/spectral message scene ofc

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I wonder if they’ll intertwine the owl and echidna stuff into shadow’s conception as well. Keeping the theme and lore they’ve built

cinder dragon
brisk willow
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too based for this world unfortunately

stone canyon
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GUN would definately have a program designed to have a power team based on the mobians. With Tom as the leader as Sonic Man.

brisk willow
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cause archie sonic got canned before this could be realized

potent shore
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I wouldn't be surprise if Sonic Man was a thing in the movies, It could be a gag of someone trying to be a superhero, But fails at doing it.

potent shore
winter dawn
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https://youtu.be/cO2u1KjIcMI?si=5I2f47ZdrXVIoIel the most positive video on knuckles ive seen yet, lmao

A few years ago I did a review on Sonic the Hedgehog 2... and let's just say it was not taken particularly well. Now it might be perceived that since I got such a bad reception on my opinions that I have done a complete 180 and become a complete shill to the Sonic fandom to rave about the latest installment that is the Knuckles TV franchise. Wel...

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quartz quail
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There is quite a few positive vídeos

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Also FTCR unanimosly like it

glad onyx
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Tell'em

unborn aurora
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Man can’t handle the best musical number

unreal plume
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no wonder he liked Knuckles

glad onyx
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Ep 4 specifically but yeah

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I wonder if he'll do a review on it

unreal plume
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ep 4 yeah, my bad

unborn aurora
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Can yall imagine Sonic’s reaction to the fact the spirit of the guy who killed his mom was not only in their house, but also Knuckles was taking advice from him?

↘️ Quoting Princess Nikea The Rabbit (Nikea The Fox) (@the_nikea)

Knuckles Spoilers//////:

This scene got me laughing!! XD!

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potent shore
quartz hearth
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Which toku show is this

quartz quail
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Adam Pally looks pretty good with that hair

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blissful shell
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Herobrine tails🤯

blissful shell
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I don’t like…people

quartz quail
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This is kinda of insane to me

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If this is cuz of the harassment, thats fucked, i heard sam got severe flack back when frontiers gameplay launched

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And thats awful

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He doesnt deserve this

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But with the context he is giving it just feels he is like this cuz

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People enjoy the show...?

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Like come on dude, i like his streams and all that but this is getting kinda ridiculous.

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Like dude

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What the hell can we do

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If people enjoy it.

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Genuinely.

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Tell them to raise standards when the show just does it for them?

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What can be done about that?

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But i also seen os many show enjoyers that have been really level headed about the whole thing like

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People who really enjoyed it but understand the flaws with the show and the lack of knuckles and all that

idle sundial
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I usually like Sam, but more and more I'm getting "You like something I don't? You should feel baaaad!" vibes from him.

rustic fjord
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As much as there are legitimate criticisms around the show to be had, I feel like the majority of what people're talking about, is stuff that just isn't their thing.

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Stuff about the show that, some may hate, but others may enjoy.

inland valley
quartz hearth
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Yeah, this show def isn’t perfect by any means and there’s flaws in there for sure (plus differing humour tastes etc etc), but like

it definitely feels like there’s a subsection of fans who grew up on Shonen Sonic who want sonic to be that and only that forever, even in a subseries that over the last two entries has clearly shown it is not that

rustic fjord
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Yeah, some people are a little too closed off and stubborn to different stuff from this franchise. As much as we're tired of experimentation, this series isn't throwing darts at a board

gilded lake
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Even if you go by Shonen they tend to have funny moments too

rustic fjord
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Sonic has never been just one thing, so many inspirations go into it, and that isn't stopping anytime soon

gilded lake
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To me it’s more so that people wanted things to be mainly action and nothing else

rustic fjord
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yeah exactly! it's just about letting the characters be themselves as it is the big fight scenes

quartz hearth
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Like I can understand not vibing with it completely and thinking parts could be executed better, that’s all well and good

…but there’s people who think it’s a desecration of sonic on every level and I just, don’t get that lol, it’s just a goofy lil show

rustic fjord
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It never needed to escalate to this degree

quartz quail
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Yea thats the point of the discussion to me

random oar
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It's really not that hard, come on

rustic fjord
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Either way, what makes knuckles of all things stand out THIS much

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the marketing was very forward

quartz hearth
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I’ll happily take a surprise if it’s a good one that’s still enjoyable

random oar
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"I paid for a cheesecake and I get a Victoria sponge instead" I feel is more accurate in this case

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Or "They told me I'd be getting cheesecake, but I got a Victoria sponge instead"

rustic fjord
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I still feel like it's not as misleading as people make it out to be. they just got caught up in expectations like usual

quartz hearth
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Yea except we are at the cafe that time and time again is shown to serve Victoria sponges

random oar
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No?

quartz hearth
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…damn I should’ve reversed the metaphor I could’ve made a cheesecake factory joke

rustic fjord
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Hell I remember hearing all about their inspirations behind the show too.

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big lebowski, dodgeball, kingpin

random oar
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That metaphor implies that movies were about humans more than Sonic, which I feel like is a completely wrong interpretation of said movies

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Like, by and large both movies were still more about Sonic and his struggles, with B-side being human characters having their own stories

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With the show that B-side story is an A-side story and the thing that I feel should've been an A-side story is, like, at best an F-side story

mental arrow
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Wasn’t the the synopsis for the show about Knuckles teaching Wade how to be a warrior, I don’t think Knux ever did so and Wade only learned from a dream sequence

quartz quail
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Oh no

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Post wiped

inland valley
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That's an ow from me if that wasn't saved.

random oar
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Like, yeah, as just a show, it's okay (at best), I just feel like telling people that they're not valid for not liking the show doesn't make the likers of the show look any better

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A lot of the complaints can be dumb, but "Knuckles is barely in his own show" I think is valid

quartz quail
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I just think the reaction about it is too much

random oar
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Especially if you pay for a sub or get a blu-ray disc

quartz quail
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I didnt like it

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And thats about it

rustic fjord
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Exactly

quartz quail
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But then there are people are are so

random oar
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Yeah, that I can agree with

quartz quail
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Strongly emotional about it

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Is like if ou asked for a burger and got a plain apple and like yea it sucks but get over it -

novel locust
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WHAT

random oar
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But also, like, there is a reason that some reacted so strongly

quartz quail
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K4K26K26LW6L

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what word are you using

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This is the 2nd post

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Cringe?

rustic fjord
novel locust
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I used childish or immature. That might be it

quartz quail
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Nope

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Childish

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Immature

novel locust
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Idk
What it could be, because I'm not using anything inherently foul

quartz quail
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We have some weird words censored

random oar
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Is it the 4-letter k-word?

quartz quail
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did you say k*no?

novel locust
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Nope

quartz quail
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Huh

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You should have wrote that again

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Dkmdkdkdkxkx

random oar
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Is it 4-letter s-word?

quartz quail
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But copy and paste it

visual condor
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i got you @novel locust

"I think where my issue came in with certain sonic personalities post the shows debut.
Is that they let their emotions do the walking and talking, and their opinions didn't settle in the moment.

They have the right to be disappointed, to not enjoy so on and so forth. They're sonic fans, we're sonic fans. Different levels of expectations and likings of certain media.
No problem there.

But it's the fact that like..
It felt like there was a glimpse of entitlement at times. Not necessarily with Sam, but with channel pup and Nick.
I'm sure they're solid people.

But they were both fairly out of pocket for certain things said, trying their hardest to make this media seem like it was the stain of all stains in the franchise.
And it came off very immature, and childish in presentation."

quartz quail
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OH THANKS DAKIII

novel locust
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Thanks!

random oar
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Oh it's p*p

quartz quail
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What

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Tf was that word

inland valley
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Oh.

quartz quail
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Oh

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Pup

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Pup

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AHA

inland valley
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There you go.

quartz quail
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Channel

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Channel Pop

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Yep

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Good riddance lmao

rustic fjord
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that pretty much sums it up

visual condor
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there's some banned words in this server that make me very confused.

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it feels very no fun allowed to me but

quartz hearth
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P*pplay banned from TC… literally 1984

quartz quail
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Channel Pop doesnt confuse me tho lmfao

gilded lake
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https://vxtwitter.com/dynamosuperx/status/1785296788192219488?s=46&t=hEzBjG7J1D3FOfKF1hrb8g knuckles always brings the memes no matter which media 💀

why does knuckles eating work in everything?

【QRT of SonicMovies-Gal BIRTHDAY IN 13 DAYS!!! (@GalSonic):】
'Knuckles enjoying a whole role of Challah bread is adorable ❤️ https://t.co/CC1QdyXWZ8'

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mental arrow
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Knuckles is def a make or break for people who can vibe with the movie iteration. And personally, yeah it didn’t click with me.

quartz quail
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Im glad we got to see him chill out after all that

gilded lake
inland valley
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Him eating the bread is neat.

quartz quail
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Yea i cant wait for someone to do like

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Knuckles series but its just knuckles video lmao

unreal plume
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I still cannot believe episode 4 was a thing

cursive mason
median jacinth
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The masses are in the wrong for consuming product some people critically hate, take #2857

cinder dragon
# quartz hearth Yeah, this show def isn’t perfect by any means and there’s flaws in there for su...

this is gonna sound weird,
but is it weird how I never really get "Shonen" with Sonic, particularly with the Dark era that many claim was like Shonen

I never really grew up with Shonen myself, or never thought much of it, so whenever Sonic becomes Super to defeat an underground god, or whipped out golden armor, or what havre you, I just thought that was Sonic being Sonic, so this Shonen obsession has always been off-putting to me

I get it, but I prefer not to stay in that lil pool for long

median jacinth
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Bayformers fans in shambles

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The shonen angle makes sense to "want" with it being the source of inspiration for those elements for Sonic, but Sonic already had inspiration from cartoons to begin with

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It's just a back and forth at this point

wild bay
cursive mason
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Ye

median jacinth
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The way the whole endevor comes down to "Paramount" feels like a simplification that people make with SEGA a lot of times imo

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It's obviously a few of the creators being huge Sonic fans trying to push for more of that, Paramount themselves pushing back with budget, and everyone else being more concerned with what will land with general audiences (with maybe Paramount opting to listen to those people more willingly)

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If the movies and TV shows do well I can see a lot of the barriers preventing those creators from doing Sonic stuff with Sonic characters being eased off of

glad onyx
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Knuckles is a very "american" tv show tbh, even more than both movies if you ask me

median jacinth
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It's just if they stagnate or worse, lose money, then Sam's concern is the main direction they'd go with imo

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Well I mean it is American lol

glad onyx
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Yeah but

median jacinth
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Are we expecting people to make content that doesn't match the culture they live in?

glad onyx
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By that i mean made for the average american family. Which is why it doesn't feel like sonic at all

cursive mason
glad onyx
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Which is why it feels so alien, sonic isn't supposed to be... that

median jacinth
quartz hearth
trail ether
median jacinth
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They would rather save money and go for what general audiences watch guaranteed

trail ether
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How business works keanu

trail ether
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I’d say a huge example of this is TMNT

cursive mason
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Btw I'm just making fun of Sam with that message cuz he replied to plum with the same argument 😭

trail ether
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Compare the live action to the newest animated one

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Live action, even tho not meant for TMNT fans, made a huge budget due to its general audience

While mutant mayhem performed extremely low

unreal plume
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In general none company wants to throw money like that

It is true that they have lots of money but companies abid by a balance sheet, where it must show they have a fair amount of money both in the receiving terms and in the giving terms.

None company can throw money like idiots but neither reserve too much. They must do the enough on both sides.

glad onyx
median jacinth
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He can be anything

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He just has to make money

quartz hearth
median jacinth
glad onyx
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Yes i know that "nobody" cares

unreal plume
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I mean, X episode 20 is kinda like Knuckles in the sense of how insane it is. Even Sonic got to be extremely OOC in that but I believe every one will be happy with it just by the hilarious aspect of it.

quartz hearth
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if sonic stuck to his original guns forever we wouldn’t have like, most of the iconic stuff in this series

trail ether
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Different interpretations is what makes sonic, sonic imo

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He’s a blank slate

trail ether
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Anyone can do anything with the character

cursive mason
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But yeah

quartz hearth
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sonic’s strength has always been constant reinvention - sometimes it backfires but hey, you take a step back for a running jump and try again

glad onyx
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Idk, for me knuckles isn't really a sonic characters centric show, that's why i said this originally

median jacinth
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It definitely hasn't been a strength 💀

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The one thing keeping him going is what doesn't change

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His design, the constants

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Unless we want wide eyed and vulnerable Sonic

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It's his time

cursive mason
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It's kinda like movie one

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Movie one was also centered a lot in tom

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Not as much as wade in the show ofc

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But yeah

glad onyx
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Yeah but idk... sonic movie (1st) doesn't feel dumb

median jacinth
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You just gotta ease em into it

cursive mason
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I mean is a comedy show

quartz hearth
cursive mason
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I think it kinda fits knuckles ngl

glad onyx
median jacinth
glad onyx
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The dumbest thing in this whole show is arguably wanda, does she feel entertaining ?

median jacinth
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Any IP that has lived that long has gone thru this

quartz hearth
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(the difference is other series had their legal ducks in a row from the getgo, whilst a good portion of sonic’s either locked off or sega hates acknowledging lol)

cursive mason
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Sometimes

median jacinth
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Reinventions

cursive mason
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The thumb part was funny lmfao

glad onyx
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So yeah, one single joke

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Out of the 100 they tried

cursive mason
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She barely appears honestly

quartz hearth
cursive mason
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Most of episode 3 and few moments in 6

median jacinth
#

We got people complaining about Scooby Doo in the other channels because it's gonna riff off of Riverdale potentially, that's gonna be a success most likely

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Completely different take, different idea, different audience that buys into it

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Velma is a success bc why wouldn't it be lol

glad onyx
#

I genuinely wonder, since we talked about budget earlier... do you really feel like thay the people who created wanda's character were like "oh yeah this is gonna be worth it" ?

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Money wise

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Did the character of wanda made them win money

cursive mason
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Who knows

cinder dragon
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more so for laughs than money if you ask me

like they thought, "we gotta have another quirky funny haha character" since that has been a running thing in the show

quartz hearth
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Well yeah ofc, as much as she’s irritating they made her irritating on purpose - albeit they maybe went too far lol

cursive mason
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Same can be said for wade idk lmao

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I think is just the actress that just did a really good job 😭

glad onyx
cursive mason
#

Like yes the character is annoying as hell and it was made on purpose but it feels so natural

median jacinth
cinder dragon
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pretty much

cursive mason
#

Ye

unreal plume
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Someone out there does

cursive mason
#

Even tho I wouldn't say Wanda is the worst one

cinder dragon
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those who DO find the constant bickering, the fork stabbing, the ego, the thumb thing, funny
are elsewhere, just not here

cursive mason
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The worst one gotta be the dad

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With his cup of tea bowling ball

cinder dragon
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you just have to find them

cursive mason
#

Jskwkfoxksmd

cinder dragon
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hell, if Paramount released a nationwide survey and asked about Wanda, you'd probably find people liking her

glad onyx
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I know this is gonna make me sound like an asshole but i genuinely think that people who think wanda is a genuinely good and entertaining have a few missing braincells.

median jacinth
#

Hop off Pistol Pete he's got the swagger 😤

quartz hearth
cursive mason
#

Wait never mind

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Pistol Pete is fine too

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The villain is the worst one

glad onyx
cursive mason
#

I even forgot the name

quartz hearth
#

It’s like looney tunes back in action where they axe daffy and it all falls apart

glad onyx
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Wanda is genuinely useless

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She does absolutely nothing

median jacinth
#

Would you get rid of Zomom when that would leave a void where his boss fight was?

cinder dragon
median jacinth
#

Smh

cursive mason
median jacinth
#

Wanda is the new Zeti

quartz hearth
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The dinner scene is awkward, yes, but several really decent jokes revolve around her being there, “useless” or not

median jacinth
#

Not worth it at all

quartz hearth
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They’re not cogs in a machine they don’t have to be operating at max pristine capacity to be needed in there

cursive mason
#

Without wanda it would've feel kinda weird ig

glad onyx
cursive mason
#

So true

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That's why I love it

median jacinth
#

Dw Zomom take your time, your boss fights are good

cursive mason
quartz hearth
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(also the bit with the gun agent threatening to shoot her and wade not giving a shit is genuinely one of the funniest moments in the show lol😭😭)

cinder dragon
#

Wanda in concept to the show works
someone who DOES have a worthwhile career and is (supposedly) very skilled, but when put into action, is very useless

to contrast Wade, someone who is pretty much supposed to be the disappointment, but is eager to prove himself and show he's worthwhile

but they turned up the "funny juice" too much and she kinda becomes irritating in the long run

glad onyx
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I genuinely hate, when i watch something, and i feel like the show thinks i'm a dumbass

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Like holy fuck this is one horrible feeling

cursive mason
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Never felt that honestly lmao

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I just turn off my brain sometimes

unreal plume
cursive mason
#

I still wonder if Wanda is actually fbi agent or is a joke tho 😭

glad onyx
#

This is what the knuckles show feels like at some point for me

quartz hearth
cursive mason
#

For me

glad onyx
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Especially with wanda's character

cursive mason
#

Knux show is like

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A Smosh episode

quartz hearth
#

I gathered that

cursive mason
#

Pure random and dumb stuff

cursive mason
unreal plume
#

I personally think Knuckles is more a show of just relaxing and letting stuff follow it's motion.

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A very insane motion

glad onyx
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The worst is that, sometimes the humour lands, like, the 4th episode really is funny at some point... but then you have the whole thing before the dream and it's like... kinda cringy i won't lie

cursive mason
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It was a fun show, like most say is not the knuckles show we expected but it's not horrendous

quartz hearth
#

Nah that was funny as fuck, I love the stupid bounty hunter

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he is so utterly daft I can’t hate him

cursive mason
#

The ponytails guy?'

quartz hearth
#

Yea ponytail guy

cursive mason
#

He was funny

median jacinth
#

I'm ngl the fourth episode is wearing off for me

cursive mason
#

Episode 4 is honestly the best one I can't lie lmao

unreal plume
#

The facebook stuff reminds me of the Internet running gag of the fairy oddparents

quartz hearth
#

Love the implication that he bought the cage off Iblis lmao

cursive mason
#

The marketplace part 😭

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Iblis is like me fr

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!!!

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And the knux dad part

cinder dragon
#

the more I think about it,
the more I feel Knuckles ramping things up to 11 as it does is mostly because this show is meant to be of little consequence, so they probably had a "fuck it" mentality when making it

it can't connect anything leading to Sonic 3 because we don't want anyone missing out in case they haven't watched the show, so we're gonna have this be a severely unrelated side-quest spin-off that comes and goes,

so we can go as silly and crazy as we want
Y'know?

glad onyx
#

Okay i think i know why i hate wanda so much (pretty much like everyone else but lemme specify) i think i genuinely despise dumb people, and like, wanda is a pure personnification of this imo, and on top of that she serves absolutely no purpose whatsover in the show. She is genuinely useless.

cursive mason
#

😭

glad onyx
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I'm sorry dkfkdalsllez

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I know i sound like an asshole

cursive mason
#

I suppose you didn't like boom knuckles

median jacinth
#

She's also an asshole dw

cursive mason
#

Yeah

glad onyx
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I gotta rewatch boom

median jacinth
#

In the context of comedy she fails
In the context of serious narrative she fails
She sucks

glad onyx
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If anything she made paramount loose money

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Genuinely

median jacinth
#

The serious narrative part is the one that's really crazy

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Bc you have them treating the drama surroundign the family with like

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The UTMOST of respect and poignancy

cursive mason
median jacinth
#

And then it gets to the scene and he says yeah

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She can die

glad onyx
#

No but think about it

median jacinth
#

Which is it switching back to goofy

cinder dragon
#

if there's any kind of positive to be had,
Wanda helped people look at the characters they thought were the worst and realize, "it could be FAR worse"

cursive mason
#

I just wonder if they'll appear in movie 3 as a cameo or something

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Omg

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Now it all makes sense

median jacinth
cursive mason
#

Wanda is gonna be the Amy of movie 3

cinder dragon
cursive mason
#

She's so dumb that she will confuse sonic with shadow

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And make him go to jail

#

Bros...

median jacinth
cinder dragon
cursive mason
#

H3y writing a Bible on every way he will kill me if that becomes real

glad onyx
#

Who said, or will said at any point in time "oh yeah you should watch knuckles there's this super funny character in it, she's named wanda" no fucing body will ever said this. If anything, it's the opposite. And also, she was hired, paid by paramount, they did photo shooting with her n all (huge respect for the actress btw, cuz i'd never accept a role like this, but you gotta do what you gotta do) so they certainly did lose money by creating the character of wanda

cursive mason
#

Oh god

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It's been 3 minutes already

glad onyx
#

Wha

cursive mason
#

You were typing

glad onyx
#

Oh

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Yeah nah i'm finished

cursive mason
#

Or was it a bug 😭

glad onyx
#

😭

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I dunno

cursive mason
#

Bro deleted the message

quartz hearth
glad onyx
#

Anyway, this makes me think... i should ask patkc what he thinks of the knuckles show

cursive mason
#

Loooo

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Imagine Wanda the reason sonic goes to prison in movie 3

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The Amy of movie 3...

glad onyx
#

I would exit the theater

cursive mason
#

Loool

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I don't think they in the cast for movie 3 anyways

cinder dragon
#

if Wanda is gonna be in it as the one mistaking Sonic for Shadow, that's just layers upon layers of fucked

she's an incompetent person, yet is SOMEHOW promoted to work for fucking GUN (because I don't think she even knew about the aliens' existence, so I assume the FBI are left in the shadows on them)

as well as calling the shots on her GUN team a la being that squad's captain/leader

and insisting that Sonic and Shadow are the same despite GUN having made constant methods to track the aliens as explained in the Knuckles series

potent shore
gilded lake
#

GUYS!

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MONKE PREDICTED!

unreal plume
#

😭

short atlas
potent shore
potent shore
#

Man, If they were to actually show Knuckles vs the Iblis, It would probably look something like this.

unreal plume
#

SILENCIO, PUSIERON:

cursive mason
#

watched sams review and idk what to say 😭

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bro was really mad

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like mad as hell

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never seen him like that

#

maybe with the forces review but that had lot of satire moments

median jacinth
#

That's what happens when you fuckle with the knuckle

cursive mason
#

but this one

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holy moly

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😭

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took it really personal

median jacinth
#

What's ironic is

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I feel like this would have gone over better if it was literally any other Sonic character, other than Shadow or Silver or something

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Characters where the fandoms actually expect slice of life out of their stories

mental arrow
#

I think it would’ve gone better if they were just more honest in the marketing

cursive mason
#

ig

median jacinth
#

I suppose

cursive mason
#

but honestly

#

this is kinda like fnaf but but the other way around lmao

mental arrow
#

Cause like when was Knux training Wade for anything

cursive mason
#

is a good show but is not a good sonic show

mental arrow
#

Where it at???

median jacinth
#

Is like SLW

cursive mason
#

thats why most critics liked it

mental arrow
#

Where’s the training montage

cursive mason
median jacinth
#

Yes

mental arrow
#

Don’t disrespect Lost World like that

median jacinth
#

Erm you wish

mental arrow
#

Wishes are eternal

unborn aurora
mental arrow
#

Raw af

median jacinth
mental arrow
#

SCU PHASE 4 trust

unborn aurora
#

Do you think the story was completely different at one point

#

Like why take a 360 and make Wade the main character

median jacinth
#

Like we had the storyboard leak

cursive mason
#

nah

median jacinth
#

And that had the final fight and all, and it was a bit shorter than it is right now

#

Wade's scenes throwing bowling balls was added

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But that's it

mental arrow
#

Gotta add a dude throwing balls

median jacinth
#

I mean maybe

mental arrow
median jacinth
#

Wade being added into it beyond the rocket punch might have been like

#

A way to strengthen the story beyond the general ideas they had at the time

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Bc like it or not the sonic 1 repeat does actually tie Knuckles back into Wade's arc

cinder dragon
#

this show pretty much getting entangled into the hype

median jacinth
#

lmao

#

Well hold on

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There was one character added

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Pachacamac

#

Whether he'll be there for movie 3 or not idk

unborn aurora
median jacinth
#

Fuck that I wanna see him make Tom trip balls as well

#

Send him on a rainbow fueled journey as well

cinder dragon
#

if Sonic 3 were an Adventure 1, then sure, let Pachacamc appear all he wants
but since they skipped to Adventure 2, probablly because they changed so much of the Master Emerald lore as is, then yeah

median jacinth
#

He will learn of his grandfather's past

unborn aurora
median jacinth
#

GUN

#

Maria

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In

#

Theater form

unborn aurora
#

Bro

#

A play about Maria

#

10/10

median jacinth
#

With the Biolizard

unborn aurora
#

Wait…

#

06 could still work

median jacinth
#

Knuckles will kiss Sonic?!?!?

unborn aurora
#

Instead of Silver hunting down Sonic. He hunts down Knuckles

median jacinth
#

Well

unborn aurora
median jacinth
#

If that happens what will our friend Mac do

median jacinth
#

THEIR HEADSPACE CHANGES

unborn aurora
median jacinth
#

It should be in 70's something

#

These are apparently big 70s shows

#

Columbo Tom.....

unborn aurora
#

Still makes you think tho

#

Did Maddie not think of calling Wade asking if he’s seen Knuckles

#

He literally snuck out and no one seemed to care lmao

jade fossil
#

Oh yeah I forgot to mention this

#

But man was it so apparent that Kid Cudi did not do as much acting as the rest of the cast

#

I know people on twitter were saying oh he looked devious and it's funny and stuff

#

But that's just one part of it

quartz quail
#

He did it just fine to me

#

But i know some people will pick apart this stuff

jade fossil
#

For example the scene where they throw the guy in the ring, there was some background noise, and you could barely tell what he's saying

#

And it made me realize how theatrical everyone else was

#

While he feels like a "normal guy"

unreal plume
#

Hm I can see what you mean

jade fossil
#

Yeah like

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The actors would say and do things in a very exaggerated way so that it would come out very clearly on the screen

#

But typically they do a good job and you don't really notice that kind of thing

#

But since Kid Cudi wasn't really doing that a whole lot (especially with the dialogue), it made it noticeable

gilded lake
#

💀

jade fossil
#

Also

#

Maybe all the posts from stockingsimp broke my mind

#

But good grief

#

Why would even the biggest Amy fans want her introduced in a show about Knuckles

#

😭

quartz quail
#

I mean

#

I think Amy and Knuckles would have a lovely chemstry

#

City girl and tribe guy

potent shore
#

We will probably get a show with Amy and Rachel

jade fossil
#

Like if Shadow wasn't introduced in movie 3, I would be like heeeell no don't put that shit on a Paramount+ about a different character

potent shore
#

Just imagine those two at a clothing store, and Amy trying out new cloths.

#

and its a montage of different outfits

quartz quail
#

Why amy and Rachel

#

Shadow and Rachel sounds way better

potent shore
#

or Maddie

glad onyx
#

I kinda feel the same with sm3 tbh? If there's ever a 4th movie, i'd rather have amy being introduced in that movie as a main new character rather that have her being the 202849th wheel of the truck in sm3

jade fossil
#

I feel people are so desperate to see the characters on the big screen they'd rather just have them there to check off the list rather than wait for them to be the main attraction

#

Maybe it's a Marvel thing

#

Cause I know they've been throwing some odd couples in there

potent shore
#

The extra characters will show up in some post credit scene

#

Gotta lower your expectations

#

don't think too far ahead, because we don't even know what direction the story is going.

jade fossil
#

Like would you rather Amy debut in Knuckles show or Sonic 3 where she is a bit player or feels entirely shoehorned in, or wait a few years for another movie that has her as the main character with Sonic & Metal?

quartz quail
#

... former.

glad onyx
#

Omg tobe you think the same as me

inland valley
#

Latter.

glad onyx
#

Latter.

jade fossil
quartz quail
#

I dont see the point on a movie where

potent shore
#

I say the movies is where characters are introduce, And the spinoff shows is where we get to learn more about the characters.

quartz quail
#

Amy is the stinger

#

Im sorry

#

My girl is not made for that

glad onyx
#

Wha

potent shore
#

We didn't get much of Knuckles backstory in movie 2, Just a little bit of it, And the show actually went deeper on his origin

quartz quail
#

Dude istg, Amy is not "prime new character movie" material to me

#

Like she is better off with other stuff alongside it

potent shore
#

I heard the show being described as a character study.

rustic fjord
jade fossil
#

Idk

#

Like yeah for later stories she doesn't have to be center stage

#

But for a debut story...

quartz quail
#

Hardcore amy fans want the movie to be a love story between her and sonic

jade fossil
#

Lol

#

I think even some Tails fans were probably a little miffed how Knuckles had the bigger share of the pie in movie 2

glad onyx
#

And yeah, we never said she'd be alone

novel locust
#

I think Amy could work as a stinger, accompanied by another end credits scene. Kinda like movie 1, a lil taste of the events to come from two different ways (Eggman going into madness, tails arriving)

inland valley
#

I would much rather have her introduced in a movie inspired by SA1 as well.

jade fossil
#

All I'm seeing is that if Amy shows up in movie 3, her inclusion gonna range from "shoehorned" to "passable".

The movie is gonna be 90-120 mins and by now we know how they work

#

There's gonna be 10-15 minutes just about the humans

inland valley
#

Amy in SA2 is.. not the best.

glad onyx
#

She is inexistent

#

Irrelevant except for ONE moment

#

Where she could be replace by the little girl

novel locust
#

The only thing with that, is that a little girl would have to tag along for the adventure. Because idk what Jojo would be doing on the ark, and I think Sonic has learned his lesson about putting children in danger. Non powered children as well

#

But idk, maybe the actress is a preteen by now.

quartz quail
#

I love Amy, i dont need her to be a main character.

#

Is that really hard of a concept to grasp?

novel locust
quartz quail
#

Idk man im just really weary of Amy in this movie verse

#

Sega is losing sight of why i like her to begin with, what would Hollywood do to her

#

And like, she is not a very popular character

#

Shes not knuckles or shadow

#

She is just considered as the girl sonic

#

She is very much below, sonic, tails, knuckles, shadow, and even eggman

#

By the general audience

#

If you have a movie where she is the WOW NEW CHARACTER

#

people would just tune out

#

She works better if she has other characters introduced along

median jacinth
#

I think it’d be cool to introduce her in a final act or something

#

A stinger not so much but like

#

Oh new person tagging along

novel locust
#

It’s all about a balancing act, and highlighting her in her own mold. Something I think the films have been doing fairly well, apart from the comparisons of the game counterpart. What Amy needs, is her bare essentials. Her heart, her spunk, her fury, and kindness. Keep those things in tact and build around that aspect in this new interpretation of the world

quartz quail
#

Honestly i just

#

Dont trust them

#

One bit

#

I dont trust them doing amy well

#

I am pretty sure execcs from the depths of hell would just turn her into a hollywood girl just like they did peach

#

Like a generic
"Oh. Shes here!!"

#

"#girlboss"

#

You know?

novel locust
#

Maaaybe, but it’s to early to say with so little to go off of. At least firm understanding I mean

quartz quail
#

Amy to me, if done well in the movie, should be mostly doing her own little adventure that ties in with the heroes, not come in swinging and judt wow shes so cool and badass

#

Let her have insecurities, be lost, scared, have flaws, and develop her and make her stronger at the end

#

Like imagine a scenario where, in a battle with shadow, she hides from him, but shadow targets her and knuckles protects her from him, and she just whips her hammer in fury and tries to fight him and is able to get a hit or something

#

That kind of stuff would be real cool i feel

#

And kinda like sa1 actually

#

How she just runs away from the enemy until the end where someone she cares is hurt, and then she goes all out

#

the maria parallels could go well there to distract him

novel locust
#

I don’t think that has to be much of a concern in terms of the films. They’re fairly open in showing the characters in different light, most notably Sonic himself. The trio each have their own flaws, even if most disregard them, some of the human cast have their flaws that are highlighted in company. This interpretation of this world is seeing the cast at their humble beginnings and growing better and stronger for it.

#

And Jeff is a man that has stated that he’s a dude about character above all. If you don’t care about the cast, main character, etc. it isn’t gonna matter

quartz quail
#

I was just brining up a scenario but yea lol

novel locust
#

So I trust that Amy would follow suit. I would hope at least

glad onyx
#

before sm2 they are pretty much on par

#

so yeah ur wrong about her being not as relevent

quartz quail
#

Thats uganda knuckles.

#

And even so, is not something where general audiences look for her

#

Idk man

gilded lake
#

Amy as of now is a matter of when, but not sure if she has a good chance appearing in sonic 3 movie

unreal plume
#

I don't think an easter egg guarantees them of being out or in a movie imo

quartz quail
#

But no one said that

#

This is a joke from charriii

blissful shell
#

I’ve never noticed that :0

lost crown
# gilded lake I would say so but https://vxtwitter.com/banana_queen/status/178571481222553223...

They also clearly namedropped Bob Gunagent https://fxtwitter.com/Miexriir/status/1255891751748812800

When I was a kid, Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) made me cry because I shot an NPC and heard another soldier cry out “THEY GOT BOB!!” It was so humanizing.. a reminder this devastating loss would be mourned.. I felt so guilty

then I realized the clip is used repeatedly every level

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novel locust
#

I like this frame

#

That’s all

quartz quail
#

Why does it look like sonics eyes are so elongated in the series

#

I guess is the lack of shines

novel locust
#

Cause they are

#

Well his irises at least

#

Movie 1’s goal was to cater to make the dude look cute as possible, hence the bigger and rounder irises

#

Going into 2, it was just to tie the knot on borrowing that design aspect from the games

brisk willow
#

gonna be honest, I don't really like how sonic looks in knuckles

#

he looks so off to me

#

it's weird cause I really wasn't bothered by how he looked in sonic 2 outside of a few cherrypicked moments

novel locust
#

I think it’s better than this shit

#

I know that MPC was going through it, but gahlee it’s glaring in that movie

#

The few oddities in knuckles are more so just animator hiccups or personal choices. Per Tyson Hesse’s implications and explanation of that cg models can go off model or look different to a viewers eye, just as much as something in 2d can.

#

MPC (at least for movie 2) was the deadline and Covid, to the point they had to polish going into the blue ray release.

#

But man my dude looked funky

quartz quail
#

They look kinda dead inside without the shines

quartz quail
quartz quail
# novel locust

Here is okay but a lot of the time they look weirdly elongated

novel locust
#

Yeah I can see the shine aspect. Majority of his shots are in Inherently gray or dry areas, so a lot of light bouncing on the eye isn't as prominent like in the films.
Or knuckles himself

quartz quail
#

Is very apparent when hes with ozzy

#

And other times it looks ok

cinder dragon
pseudo crane
#

Okay, nevermind, NOW it’s real!

potent shore
#

#Knuckles #SonictheHedgehog
We ask Knuckles TV show producer Toby Ascher about the making of the streaming series, picking Reno for the final battle, comments about too much Wade Whipple and not enough Knuckles, and what’s going on with the Sonic 3 movie.
CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:12 Why Reno?
7:18 Why Wade Whipple?
8:31 Too Much Wade Whipple?
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potent shore
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Check out this interview with the producer talking about the show.

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potent shore
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angry joe

gilded lake
#

I have to be real, but why constantly posting reviews on other youtubers?

delicate elm
#

Going onto youtube searching knuckles and filtering by new just to send random reviews and shit here

unborn aurora
quartz hearth
#

God I love the needle drops in this show, some real proper choice ones in there

#

Our House, Green Onions, The Warrior…. yuss mate get it all in my veins

potent shore
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behind the scenes video on the flames of disaster episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6Knw1vdd5Y

Adam Pally ("Wade Whipple"), Julian Barratt ("Jack Sinclair"), and Jorma Taccone (director of Knuckles Episode 4) share a behind-the-scenes look at the making of “Flames of Disaster,” the dream sequence rock opera in which Wade Whipple learns how to be an echidna warrior

Join the echidna warrior from the cinematic world of Sonic the Hedgehog in...

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winter dawn
cursive mason
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😭

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Is a great song

quartz hearth
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I mean I'll be real that is not the highest bar to clear lmaoooooo

unreal plume
delicate elm
unborn aurora
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That’s Knuckles vecort

gilded lake
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I knew Wade is based

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Altho Knuckles is a better father than the real one Kek

short atlas
potent shore
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That's because Knuckles looked up to his dad when he was young, He was a young warrior in training.

cinder dragon
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or at the very least the first one felt genuine, every other song felt pretty try-hard to me

gilded lake
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I don’t recognize any hazbin songs at all

unreal plume
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What's a hazbin?

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/j

short atlas
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I don’t know why but after listening to every song once they’re fcking imprinted in my mind help

median jacinth
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I FOUND IT

Quoting Farmboy #Wadesweep (@phantom_farmy)

Anyone remember that one video of the dude laughing his ass off at the super sonic scene in movie two please it was funny as shit

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I wonder what he thought about episode 4....

cursive mason
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why 😭

cursive mason
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The flames of disaster!

abstract spruce
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bro's hyped about the combination of words that Silver would destroy at once

cinder dragon
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Knuckles' fists burst into flames
giant ass Flames of Disaster title card
Wade a second after: "The Flames of Disaster!! :D"

I dunno why some shows or movies do that, like, we can see, we can tell

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I know they think the targeted audience are very basic people and all that, but give them a little credit :0

unreal plume
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A lot of movies and series tend to fall into that pitfall

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of making things too clear for the audience

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They should be more careful with that

delicate elm
cold sparrow
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Everything i see about it gives Mall Cop or Pixels energy

winter dawn
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allat for a two second clip

cinder dragon
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I think they actually referenced Mall Cop iirc

mental arrow
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Yup

blissful shell
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I’m glad that I was able to form my own opinion on this show instead of hating on it just cause some big youtuber said it was one of the worst pieces of sonic media on Twitter one time