#Sonic Rumours & Speculation

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tardy pivot
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What does that pisswater we call Guinness have to do with gameplay 😭

boreal canyon
quaint mountain
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Oh yeah, Sonic Origins and Origins Plus were Hite and Hite Plus

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for the brewery

unique osprey
boreal canyon
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speedrunning games

patent hazel
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Origins/Origins Plus was Hite/HitePlus (Hite Brewery)

Superstars was Orion (Orion Breweries)

Sonic X Shadow Generations was Miller (Miller Brewing Company)

Frontiers was Rangers (no beer reference)

Forces was Wars (no beer reference)

tardy pivot
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So someone has an alcohol addiction post frontiers

patent hazel
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My guess is another remaster or another 2d game

unique osprey
tardy pivot
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yoooo sonics brewery

unique osprey
balmy fiber
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Sonic in Ireland

tardy pivot
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can finally get the spiritual successor to tapper

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quaint mountain
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but yeah, like I said, it's coming from mystic and it doesn't even have anything else to latch on to, so I didn't say anything

tardy pivot
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Maybe. just maybe. they'll want to consider a modern 2D game, or some kinda advance remaster. I mean superstars didn't exactly perform to their usual standards right?

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yes this is 100% coping

balmy fiber
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Hopefully you are right but iizuka is stubborn

dire quiver
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It's just so unlikely with the Classic Sonic branch.

tardy pivot
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That is definitely true, it's just hard to say what more they can realistically do with classic sonic when they handle it the way they do.

balmy fiber
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They can do so much more than they think

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But i doubt a 2d game in development would be anything more tham superstars 2

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Which tbh

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Eh

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Im down for it

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Just give me better music

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A better art direction

tardy pivot
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I just don't know if that's realistic

balmy fiber
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Better bosses

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Hopefully it aint

tardy pivot
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They can do more than they think, but I suppose we're the only ones who know that.

balmy fiber
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Exactly

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So thags why they are just gonna do the same thing again and i hope for improvements

keen wren
tardy pivot
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We know SXS Gens did. Not only from the sales numbers we have but also from what SegaSammy's been saying.

keen wren
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Do we? Not sarcastic. I don't know last update i saw was the million in a few days, which is impressive but sonic games are ussually 2-3 mill and allegedly its already going on sale on the switch

tardy pivot
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they've been pretty happy about how both it and metaphor are doing.

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it was 1 million on the first day. and within a month frontiers did around 2.5 mil, so feel confident in saying at the least it has matched frontiers.

keen wren
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If you got numbers or a source i'm more than willing to accept it, i want it to do well. I just haven't seen much

tardy pivot
keen wren
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huh, well alright works for me

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Hope it continues to do so i need shadow 2. Maybe it just was the classic aspect of superstars

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Which i'm not against believing, i'm just not one to count chickens too early

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Was fully mentally prepared for a year of luigi part 2 if it happened

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If it is the classic aspect, that's a bummer but I don't know what they can do without a full embrace of that art style with a budget to match

tardy pivot
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From a purely results and numbers perspective, classic is the weakest link right now. I doubt it's just cause it's a classic game. Personally I just think it's 1-how they handle classic and 2-tough competition at the time

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(and also 3 it just wasn't great)

north vault
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fully expecting arzest to be pumping out classic games from here on out now they've got the framework tbh

balmy fiber
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Which honestly ill be down with if there is improvements

north vault
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lotta the issues with it are easily addressable (long bosses, rough music) and with the way sonic's been ascending I think they can prolly justify giving it another crack

balmy fiber
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Yea

keen wren
balmy fiber
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Make trip playable still

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Dont take her out

keen wren
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And stacked up against cod, might not be the most appealing

balmy fiber
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Hope fang is dead tho

harsh kettle
north vault
tardy pivot
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I guess it also just feels kinda...bland and safe.

keen wren
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classic is as it exists now is " sonic but toned down" and given the most successful projects seem to be the crazier ones these days, might be a hard buy

balmy fiber
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I can only hope they up the sauce

north vault
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no way that fuckass big dragon is staying lol

balmy fiber
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And they can

keen wren
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its crazy

tardy pivot
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Like "Here's a classic sonic game! with a new character! and a kinda forgettable gimmick..."

unique osprey
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UEKAWA WE NEED MODERN FANG

balmy fiber
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NO

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let him DIE

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I dont wanna see this asshole again

harsh kettle
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why'd idw pause the mainline for fang anw 💀 when archie could handle running two cocurrent serieses

unique osprey
keen wren
unique osprey
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but recently they got a new editor and the company itself was (is?) kinda on fire

keen wren
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is

unique osprey
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also tbf, both fang and phantom riders share artists in Aaron

harsh kettle
unique osprey
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good news! they have not

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we are not getting anything in January

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well, nothing new anyway

harsh kettle
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💀 💀 💀

gloomy bloom
harsh kettle
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Well anw, if soup 2 is real they better keep trip in 🔫 i was already kinda bummed mighty and ray werent in soup...

gloomy bloom
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well at least glad Amy was cuz it was criminal she didn't get in Mania

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ideally we shouldn't have to ask for scraps and they should all be in Modern

balmy fiber
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Next game should just take all good notes from advance

gloomy bloom
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It needs to be cel shaded or hand drawn, please

harsh kettle
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classic game animated like a rubberhose cartoon, cuphead style would be insane i think (it will never happen)

balmy fiber
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Cell shaded i see it happening

keen wren
tardy pivot
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actually...alternative possibility. we only know it's 2d, what if it was a beat em up

gloomy bloom
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those comic skins were too good for soup

tardy pivot
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wouldn't that slap hard

gloomy bloom
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Streets of Sonic

keen wren
tardy pivot
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well again we only know it's 2d, not if it's modern or classic right?

keen wren
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ain't no wway you made a beat em up where blaze can't dress as blaze from streets of rage

gloomy bloom
keen wren
harsh kettle
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honestly i cant see them making a 2d modern game after frontiers and shadow generations since they finally have a fun playable maneuvering system for sonic in 3d, unless its like, a spinoff

olive vortex
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That’s actually interesting

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Guinness

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And by judging by the naming convention and its true

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This might be next years spinoff game

north vault
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I’m still sticking by my guns that we’re due a Sumo joint soon

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been ages since the last one, I can feel it in my knees

unique osprey
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They’ve been updating sonic racing so I wonder if it’ll just be like TSR but with new characters and stages

north vault
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I could easily see that happening yea

boreal canyon
north vault
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something very very safe

boreal canyon
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how about we just get a riders port w/ online mode

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note how i didn’t say remake or remaster

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just make the game playable

unique osprey
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they’d probably want to do a remaster instead of a port

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higher def visuals, updated cutscenes with the current voice cast, the works

olive vortex
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Honestly tho

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I can see it being 2 things

north vault
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I’d take em porting all three but frankly I also dunno if I could see it happening

olive vortex
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1 it’s a sega all stars game with sumo + sonic gets the spinoff

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Or it’s a sonic racing game and there’s a double release during the 35th again

boreal canyon
olive vortex
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Because I’m very confident Guinness is a 2D game

north vault
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I can see it being cars again on the sheer basis of “they can keep selling merch of the cars” though lol

olive vortex
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And I don’t think it’s a Azrest one either

unique osprey
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battle remake

north vault
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Jakks pacific strangling Iizuka if they go too long without putting sonic’s car in something

olive vortex
boreal canyon
unique osprey
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did Ryan give any more elaboration aside from code names or did they fuck off again

olive vortex
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Ryan doesn’t usually comment on sonic

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So it’s surprising they mentioned it

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But like a codename is basically a no shit brainer

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They’re like 99% gonna get it right

unique osprey
olive vortex
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But it holds nothing of value unless u look insanely deep into it

north vault
olive vortex
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Like Orion being a constellation of stars, aka

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Superstars

north vault
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I don’t imagine evening star’s going straight back in the sonic mines right away, nor do I want em to

boreal canyon
unique osprey
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okay

boreal canyon
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bc for a split moment i thought the discussion was about Ryan Scarlett and got spooked

north vault
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we need to talk abt tv branding to summon him

steep sequoia
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If next 2D classic sonic game does happen are we getting more stuff leaning towards to SA1?

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Since so far it's the altar

static elm
patent hazel
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2 classic sonic games between 2023-2025 sounds like terrorist work

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Let the guy rest

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Just gimme modern ffs

dry sorrel
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man, people were excited for Fang to come back in the games
now some people dont want to see him anymore, what happened? :(

gloomy bloom
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it's unfortunate ngl, but I will always believe in him

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gonna guess his fights were ass and the comic (IDW being IDW with releases and his characterization) didn't help things

tardy pivot
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Then why not maybe gather up all three of the hooligans?

gloomy bloom
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if only

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honestly would just rather they never had this dumb split

unique osprey
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the fang mini was a waste of time

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it served to answer the sole question of “why aren’t the hooligans in superstars??”, set up a story opportunity they never followed up on (warp topaz), and the only other thing it had to its name was being peak flynnism by poking fun at fighters’ 8th emerald flub

gloomy bloom
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yea that too

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whole story just being filler incarnate

unique osprey
balmy fiber
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H a

gloomy bloom
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is the stone even gonna be relevant ever again 💀

unique osprey
# unique osprey the fang mini was a waste of time

It turned off several people from fang, it froze the comic for four months and pushed back more interesting stories, and without spoiling anything the new knuckles oneshot proves itself to be a far more compelling superstars connection by the merit of actually exploring that game’s ideas

unique osprey
gloomy bloom
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yea but like, didn't they toss the thing into some cave in the 900th special thing for good

unique osprey
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my guess is if it appears again, it’ll be because sonic team had an idea for it. comic wise it’s been taken care of but there’s enough wiggle room as to where somebody else can go and fish it out of the mines

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After all Fang makes it clear that it wasn’t always in that cave

gloomy bloom
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this stone just feels like that one use for the Ruby but just focused entirely on the warping aspect, huh

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i still have no idea what the ruby is but at least the warp topaz is straight to the point with no weird contradictions

open maple
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but they can use it in any point before MV

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if they wish it, that is

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like fang getting it in the cave that Starline found it

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and whatever it is between that event and MV

steep sequoia
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But yeah I am still thinking they may probably closely leaning more so over SA1 aesthetics throughout

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Might possibly have an actual city level in a classic sonic game that isn't gens

lost plume
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Best thing to come from Superstars was Cybershell doing official promotion

wind frigate
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wonder how he feels about that now

dire quiver
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It's funny that they endorse the guy who dedicated himself to make a stream of him swearing at Sega every time he jumped in Sonic 2.

patent hazel
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What if ‘sonic Guinness’ is the heroes remake bc heroes won the Guinness record for most playable characters

dire quiver
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Wait...

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It did?

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Oh, it really did.

lost snow
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it probably is, would also fit with ||next year being important for the Chaotix||

dry sorrel
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inb4 Knuckles Chaotix re-release

vale raft
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unless all new projects going forward have those names

balmy fiber
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Oh....

quaint mountain
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2d alcohol trend

harsh kettle
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does sxsg count as 2d cause its half 2d or

steep sequoia
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now i'm interested...

quaint mountain
lost plume
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i want the sonic booze

olive vortex
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I actually never thought of Sonic Guinness being a heroes remake?

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But like bobnik said, isn’t this naming convention reserved for smaller projects?

open maple
olive vortex
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True

olive vortex
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Not THAT deep but it still made sense

open maple
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yeah

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It still made sense

harsh kettle
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imagine they did make a sonic heroes remake and then add that mighty and ray team they originally planned but with trip instead of metal Sonic_Think

random portal
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that'll be a crazy curveball

open maple
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mhm

steep sequoia
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Then I win

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Because I kept saying they should do Mighty/Ray/Trip

open maple
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Trip modern design?

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<-<

random portal
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modern mighty and ray too

steep sequoia
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Trip is already getting huge positive reception and as time goes on people has been praising both Mighty and Ray since their return in Mania

random portal
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but idk i would like to think they might put a big focus on the chaotix since it'll be there 30th anniversary and tame down amy again and give rouge another breast reduction

steep sequoia
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If they wanted to do classic -> modern, I feel like those 3 should be the main priority

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Heroes Amy sucks anyways so no loss lmao

random portal
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Nah

open maple
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I'd say elaborating more on the cutscenes can help on the encounters to feel more believable

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Like the team rose vs team chaotix one has a good idea with a misunderstanding

unique osprey
open maple
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but I think it could go in other way rather than just Amy assuming Vector wants a date

random portal
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i want boycrazy amy that also wants to help her friends as well. a girl can do both

unique osprey
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sonic v dark, chaotix v rose, chaotix v dark can still happen but i think there’s potential in having stages where you team up with teams

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sonic + chaotix and sonic + rose

open maple
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That would be interesting to have

steep sequoia
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But keep the crazy factor over Amy at least

random portal
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keep it all in tact

open maple
random portal
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idc

steep sequoia
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Honestly it'll been very interesting Team Sonic meeting Team Chaotix since they are like the only ones that do know them

open maple
unique osprey
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I’d just like Amy to be less outwardly antagonistic

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there’s only so many times you can contain heroes amy moments in vacuum before the vacuum breaks and you’re left with a mess

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also uh, completely rewrite Team Rose’s theme jesus christ

random portal
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Hell nah Follow Me is cute as hell

steep sequoia
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Honestly in terms of rewrite I will say Team Dark is most deserving

open maple
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The context that Deleter shared about the song kinda made me fall off of that song

steep sequoia
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Team Sonic, Team Rose, and Chaotix are fine enough as it is

open maple
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Ignorance is a blessing sometimes..

unique osprey
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imagine if instead of the Team Chaotix theme being focused on Team Chaotix, it’s focused on solely Vector and how much he wants to marry Vanilla

steep sequoia
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Fuck Sonic X for that man

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😔

open maple
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Totally logical that he kidnaps his Crush's daughter to have extra points with her

wind frigate
harsh kettle
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i wouldnt be mad if they changed amy's "there's no way out of marrying me" line to something like a date

open maple
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If I did a heroes remake, I would make all stories be 'one'

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Kinda like Superstars did

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you play as a team, then can change to another and so on

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but still keeping your progress and what not

random portal
steep sequoia
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I honestly won't mind that. Biggest issue I have with Heroes is playing the exact same game 4 times

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Well technically 3 since chaotix at least stands out enough

lost snow
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RIP Team Rose's already hated campaign if that was the case

steep sequoia
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Granted this has always been the issue with SA1 to 06

unique osprey
lost snow
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Every character had their own stages in 3D games

unique osprey
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“Amy, what are you doing here?”

“I’m asking the questions here! What have you done with Chesse and Chocola?!”

lost snow
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Except the way Heroes did it, made it awful to replay

steep sequoia
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Yeah

unique osprey
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Because you know, the whole point is that Team Rose thinks that Sonic took them

steep sequoia
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I can see them reworking that

open maple
steep sequoia
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While during team battle you can choose which one

harsh kettle
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like the whole marrying thing is kinda childish and its smth theyve been leaning away from anyway (amy being childish like. elementary school childish)... unless they want to "respect the original vision" i guess

random portal
open maple
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just it's hidden behind RNG bup

unique osprey
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i mean she’s the team leader and every other team battle cutscene sprawls out from some sort of actual disagreement

random portal
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i dont recall any dialogue from amy in that fight talking about chocola and froggy

open maple
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Again, it's hidden behind RNG

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it appears at random so no wonder you didn't know

unique osprey
random portal
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the fights all canonically lead to a draw anyway so i dont think anyone really won those team fights

open maple
unique osprey
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like both this and a lot of the rest of Amy’s dialogue just sorta make her seem distracted which is a disservice? It’s not like she can’t be affectionate towards Sonic or anything but that should be used as fuel with everything else rather than being the dominant part of her role in the game

random portal
open maple
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except you can make her focus on the deal at hand... which can be framed from the very beginning that they're going for Froggy and Chocola, and not just leave it in a line that may, or not, even appear to begin with

unique osprey
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like okay, it’s the egg emperor fight, they’ve accused Eggman of taking Froggy and Chocola (which isn’t un-true) and they’re about to finish their story

and amy says

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harsh kettle
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wasnt sonic heroes originally written in japanese anyway? what're their original lines in that version?

unique osprey
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and like literally why

random portal
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because amys silly like that

open maple
unique osprey
balmy fiber
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I mean, what would she say

harsh kettle
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"fuck you eggman, you're the reason im bitchless" seems more apt i think /j

unique osprey
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“It’s time to pay up, you hard boiled meanie!”

gloomy bloom
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she should threaten eggman with a hammer to his ribs

unique osprey
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or like “We’re taking back Froggy and Chocola whether you like it or not!”

balmy fiber
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Ngl this is lame

unique osprey
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or “I’m gonna beat the bloody fucking shit out of you Eggman I’m gonna crack you in half and bury the body”

balmy fiber
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I like amy calling herself bitchless

open maple
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"I had enough of your plans! You took Froggy and Chocola, and tried to frame Sonic for it! I won't..I won't ever forgive you for that, Eggman!"

balmy fiber
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No

unique osprey
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anything that actually fits the context

gloomy bloom
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she should randomly speak lyrics out of her Adventure theme troll

boreal canyon
balmy fiber
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LOL

meager granite
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I know what Guinness is

open maple
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LOL

unique osprey
balmy fiber
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I honestly think its not that bad she is lovestruck and silly

gloomy bloom
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I don't think either but

balmy fiber
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Is not like she doesnt care about chocola and froggy

gloomy bloom
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I want it balanced

steep sequoia
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Honestly I would appreciate more with Amy being more depnendable with Cream and Big trying to have their friend back instead of the marriage thing

gloomy bloom
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cuz this sucks kinda

unique osprey
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silly is one thing, lovestruck is another, but like there can be a balance

steep sequoia
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^

gloomy bloom
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it just makes her sound like her personality is just "SONIC"

balmy fiber
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How

unique osprey
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amy can have goofy moments without it being inherently Sonic-centric™️

balmy fiber
unique osprey
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heroes itself demonstrates it for me

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balmy fiber
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She did, and in heroes itself she encouraged cream and big to get chocola amd froggy back

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Exactly

open maple
unique osprey
balmy fiber
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She already proved her like, care

unique osprey
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and less of this

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balmy fiber
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Then it would just be this though

steep sequoia
open maple
gloomy bloom
balmy fiber
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Or just maybe swap both idk

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Like keep the sonic line for the robot storm

random portal
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like i am not convinced that removing amy's boycraziness is somehow an improvement. it just makes her boring if you remove that aspect

balmy fiber
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And the mustache monkey line for the end

gloomy bloom
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it shouldn't be removed, obviously

balmy fiber
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How does that sound

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Swapping priorities

steep sequoia
balmy fiber
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Ok maybe it doesnt make sense

unique osprey
balmy fiber
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OR

open maple
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It's only a matter of balancing the aspects, sadly 2000's went through something that is named after Homer Simpson's nice neighbour

balmy fiber
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Maybe make it about sonic but toned down

gloomy bloom
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eh sure

unique osprey
random portal
balmy fiber
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Like actually something like call him out on" bothering us and sonic"

unique osprey
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even in Phantom Riders, this aspect of her character plays into things

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Heroes in general suffers from not having, like…an actual plot

balmy fiber
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Like keep sonic in mind, but dont forget the others

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He is sonics archnemeisis

gloomy bloom
balmy fiber
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There

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I win

gloomy bloom
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it would perfectly show her nature

unique osprey
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but what I would’ve done is have Amy be personally determined to prove Sonic’s innocence to Big and Cream, who have both lost their companions to somebody who framed Sonic

gloomy bloom
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_ _

balmy fiber
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Why did you edit that

open maple
steep sequoia
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Battle Amy is just....... yeah

unique osprey
random portal
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maybe battle amy aint so bad either. maybe all the amy criticism was in bad faith to begin with. i dont trust this fanbase at all

unique osprey
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soni do you remember battle

random portal
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yeah

gloomy bloom
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battle amy was bad silly

balmy fiber
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Nah sometimes you just feel like a contrarian

gloomy bloom
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like full on bad

balmy fiber
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Amy literally made herself malnourished

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And kept on fighting

open maple
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I mean, if Sonic team themselves acknowledged that they went too far with her, then I think the criticism can be legitimate

balmy fiber
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To impress sonic

gloomy bloom
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poor Cream..

balmy fiber
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Thags not funny

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Thats downright vile

open maple
gloomy bloom
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girl sounded like what Amy haters would write

balmy fiber
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I am all for Amy being silly silly energy gal that loves sonic

unique osprey
open maple
olive vortex
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Ngl add 2 new teams

open maple
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Please, give them interactions

olive vortex
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I need team hooligan

gloomy bloom
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like I do not believe she was the same person as she was in SA1 or SA2 hell no

unique osprey
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it’s deja vu and it’s like “Shadow looks kinda like sonic when you tilt your head—maybe HE took chocola and froggy!”

gloomy bloom
unique osprey
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and then when the fight ends it’s like, well okay

no

open maple
olive vortex
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Have their whole gameplay be a run and gun

balmy fiber
olive vortex
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Or just getting the most combos

steep sequoia
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I am always down with Amy being silly since to me that's the main trat of her char

harsh kettle
# olive vortex I need team hooligan

real i was just thinking about that, team hooligans vs. team... rookies (mighty ray trip) in their own side plot so that it doesnt mess with the original heroes plot

balmy fiber
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I was like this is stupid

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But

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Actually works

steep sequoia
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But I am just not a fond of the idea of "MARRY ME SONIC" really

balmy fiber
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Makes amy kind of dumb in a fun way

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Maybe she is denial even

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So much denial

olive vortex
unique osprey
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“are you sure about this amy it really seems like sonic did it”
“cream please i bet $50 bucks on him he couldn’t possibly ha-well I mean-erm-um”

olive vortex
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But they mistake it for sonic

open maple
balmy fiber
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Cream and Big are like "uh that looks like sonic"

steep sequoia
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real talk I feel like they should give Metal Sonic more of a role

balmy fiber
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Amy; no no trust me shadows quills can look like that

gloomy bloom
steep sequoia
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Like we don't even get to face Neo Metal Sonic

harsh kettle
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satbk amy was cute, her admonishing sonic for "lying about the story" just to get out of their date

steep sequoia
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What I mean is that not overdoing it

balmy fiber
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Amy in riders was fine actually!!!!

steep sequoia
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It's why I don't like Amy in Battles, Heroes, and especially X

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Riders Amy is great

unique osprey
open maple
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SA2 was very
"Do you marry me?"
"No"
"Oh well I tried"

gloomy bloom
open maple
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moves on

balmy fiber
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Ye!

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Whats wrong with that tbh

open maple
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simple, clear, never overstays it's welcome

boreal canyon
steep sequoia
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ANother good example too

olive vortex
steep sequoia
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To me you just need to find the right balance over Amy's char

balmy fiber
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Amys in Riders was all fully resonable

unique osprey
steep sequoia
balmy fiber
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Like yea, she enters the race for Sonic

open maple
balmy fiber
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But then shes like angry at wave for bullying tails

open maple
balmy fiber
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And then she tries to help out by chasing eggman

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And sonic throws her in the wind, and she gets, understandably pissed

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Zero Gravity amy was fine too cuz she did contribute to the plot

steep sequoia
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EVen with 06 despite it's... shit writing did a decent job over Amy

torn scarab
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hai

balmy fiber
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06 amy was good tbh

steep sequoia
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Like her relationship with Elise is very natural

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Considering it's 06 I am surprised

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They did a great job with Amy's char there

balmy fiber
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This is why i roll my eyes when people just say 2000s amy as a whole is bad

unique osprey
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Amy in Riders was mostly fine but I’d still change the scene where she tries to Le Hammer™️

Something I thought would be really funny is if Amy doesn’t met up with them again until like near the temple (? I forgot the structure of riders) and she’s like deliberately ignoring Sonic, if Tails talks to her she’ll be like “hi” but she does the goku gif whenever sonic approaches

and then sonic apologizes for it and then she perks up again and goes “oh I forgive you my darling” and acts like nothing ever happened

balmy fiber
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Please never write for amy

steep sequoia
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It's really only just Heroes, Battles, and X I find Amy really poorly handled. The rest? She is perfectly fine

unique osprey
steep sequoia
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ayo

open maple
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:v

balmy fiber
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The hammer was entirely justifiable
Sonic threw her i nthe fucking wind

steep sequoia
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Omfg yeah riders it's fair

open maple
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yeah it was fair

steep sequoia
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Sonic ignore her completely and get caught

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Like, "Okay what the fuck Sonic? weirdChamp "

unique osprey
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It’s fiiiiine I just prefer something that hinges inherently more on character building

balmy fiber
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It doesnt have to be all character building tho?

gloomy bloom
unique osprey
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Amy playing hard to get would be funny

balmy fiber
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Yea but

steep sequoia
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They can still rewrite Amy in Heroes at least

balmy fiber
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Not as a replacement for the scene

steep sequoia
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But lean more over how SA2, 06, and Riders did to keep it consistent

balmy fiber
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In fact, the takeover does let amy use the hammer on sonic for dissing her favorite cake

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Its fine

open maple
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but making her more active to Silver

unique osprey
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hey side note since David’s beginning to shift channels around does that mean that this thread’s gonna get replaced

steep sequoia
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Well that yeah, nova

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I just meant by the character trait

open maple
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like she is just following him to prove Sonic is a hero and becomes the 'annoying little sister' of Silver

balmy fiber
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Same yea i wouldnt make her ditch silver maybe help him out one last time

steep sequoia
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tbf

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It is 06

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💀

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Honestly yeah

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I am just completely surprised Amy just ditched Silver immediately after that incident and never appear again

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Like ???????

balmy fiber
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Like yea she leaves and then she comes back before kingdom valley

unique osprey
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“The Iblis Trigger is dangerous, Amy!”
“Well, then, I’ll just have to prove you wrong!”

boreal canyon
unique osprey
gloomy bloom
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that makes sense

boreal canyon
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It's moving to a new forum. Sonic Miscellaneous will be sunset

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You can look at the simulation to see a lot of what I'm about to change about this server

steep sequoia
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Altho real talk for SIlver's future, I would love if they continue to lean more over chaos energy affecting his world like with Chaos 0, Gerald's research, Neo Metal, Black Doom, and such

harsh kettle
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my net died before i could send my message 💀 but my idea for a neo metal sonic boss fight would be smth for team... trip? mighty? and team hooligan's exclusive boss that takes place after sonic beats metal overlord, like he's powered down but not yet fully finished off or smth

open maple
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oh if I had to rewrite sa2

steep sequoia
open maple
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I would make Amy NOT Follow team Sonic, and give her the X subplot

harsh kettle
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i didnt finish X, what's the subplot there?

open maple
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to get the truth behind those events

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Amy gets the data on her own while Sonic & co handle the president and tracking down Eggman

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and follows them to the Pyramid base

harsh kettle
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ahhh i see... was she asked to get the data by GUN or something...? or was her inherent whimsy and curiosity what got her there

open maple
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and the marks of the jail where Sonic was locked

harsh kettle
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oh i think i remember that scene, the one with all the computations and stuff right? okay yeah i think that'd be nice to further push the plot

open maple
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Mhm. Amy wonders what they are but she never has any payoff to them particularily

harsh kettle
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it'd tie nicely to her scene with shadow in the game since itd be because amy knows about shadow's past a bit

steep sequoia
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It'll help out her char even more with SA1 where she wants to be more indepedent

harsh kettle
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ngl now that i think about i kinda wished heroes kinda continued that trajectory for amy, her thing with independence. like being unsure if she's being a proper "leader" of her own (of team rose), prioritization of chasing after sonic vs. finding cheese, chocola and froggy and etc. i know its a high ask, considering heroes is not really writing heavy 💀 at least compared to the other games of its time

vale raft
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the alcohol trend continues...?

balmy fiber
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Oh is it really a 2d game??

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Maaan

unique osprey
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Superstars 2: Coming of the Chaotix

balmy fiber
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Dude, here is the thing

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Im not gonna bitch if we get a superstars 2

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I just want it to have more saucw

boreal canyon
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i am

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give me rush 3

balmy fiber
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To have better music

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I mean true id take rush 3 anyday

unique osprey
boreal canyon
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i'd even take advance 4

unique osprey
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now seems like a good time

gloomy bloom
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wait did Shadow Gens have an alcohol nickname

harsh kettle
boreal canyon
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miller

gloomy bloom
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well it did contain 2D but.. hmmm

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does it have to be purely 2D then

unique osprey
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Miller Miller, a man who lives next to a beer shop in RADICAL HIGHWAY BAYBEEEEE

boreal canyon
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what if its just the codename for more shadow gens Troll

balmy fiber
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A 2D modern sonic game would be great, everything even, something advance rush like with uekawa art again and everything

gloomy bloom
boreal canyon
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guiness is a major content expansion for miller

balmy fiber
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Sure yea

gloomy bloom
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we are so back

harsh kettle
gloomy bloom
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it'd be funny if the nickname was for the Movie DLC

boreal canyon
harsh kettle
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LOL

open maple
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Oh there is a beer named Guiness

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I didn't know this jssjsjsjs

tardy pivot
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it tastes like piss

open maple
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for me most drinks but wine taste bad so that doesn't mean much

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(then again I don't think alcohol like at all for the most part)

static elm
tardy pivot
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Makes sense considering I am lmao

static elm
static elm
olive vortex
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So we know 90% its a 2D game?

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Makes sense ngl

gloomy bloom
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but Shadow Gens wasn't a 2D game vectorRunners

random portal
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oh its actually a 2d game?

olive vortex
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But it was a remaster

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And u can argue origins were remasters too

gloomy bloom
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so this either works for remasters or 2D games?

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you know what, it'd be rad if this was a collection of Advance games

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with some bonuses of course like an unlockable Shadow and Blaze

static elm
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@restive tundra

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Starts here

restive tundra
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Guys so like is Miller and Orion beer i just don't look at the brand when I drink and drive

static elm
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Erm

glacial cliff
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Can someone remind what was Sonic Guinness again?

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Was it a trademark?

restive tundra
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Codename

glacial cliff
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What was the source

restive tundra
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yours truly

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midori

glacial cliff
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Ahhh it's from [REDACTED]

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Yeah that sounds like a Heroes remake lol

restive tundra
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yup

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Lol

glacial cliff
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Especially coming from him

restive tundra
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What makes you think that

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Ahh

urban scroll
glacial cliff
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Sadly it could be true or it could be them trying to bolster their own narrative

restive tundra
glacial cliff
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Cause they started the Heroes remake rumors

restive tundra
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I personally don't think the next spinoff is a 2d title

glacial cliff
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I don't think so either

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I think Superstars made them apprehensive about that

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Despite the fact that seems to have eventually sold well on the Switch

left umbra
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Oh congrats Spectre on becoming part of Tails Channel! 🎉

restive tundra
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Thank you!

restive tundra
balmy fiber
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Spectre congratulations into being Tails

glacial cliff
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Congrats spectre

restive tundra
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Well even with that, whatever is going to be announced next should have started development prolly around the same time as Superstars or whatever

glacial cliff
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Could've sworn you were already

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:VictorAiAi:

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Garbage ass nitro

balmy fiber
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Honestly

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They could make a 2d sonic game in 2 years based on superstars

unique osprey
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yeah if they just build off of superstars' existing engine they could have it done pretty quickly

urban scroll
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I'm hoping if it is another 2d game, it isn't in the same style as superstars

restive tundra
harsh kettle
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im ultimately begging for a spinoff. please... spinoffs... food... water... multiplayer spinoff party game that could be a fighting, racing or board minigame...

urban scroll
urban scroll
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Or a rhythm game

balmy fiber
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Honestly the physics of superstars are totally fine as they are

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Just give me better art direction next

urban scroll
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And a different direction for the music

balmy fiber
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Yes

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If jun wanna sa2 heroes classic sonic please do

gloomy bloom
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please

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not Jun but I wanna have vibes like this

open maple
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Tee

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.3.

gloomy bloom
steep sequoia
balmy fiber
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I meam sure keep tee in

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But dont let jun be the director

gloomy bloom
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steer the fuck clear of sounding 16bit and whatever 4 had going

open maple
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Ohtani director maybe?

balmy fiber
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Dude a classic sonic game could be so nice by just going all in the music and having a strong aeshetic

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making sonic a bit less compact and light blue

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Like i get that sega wants a different classic sonic nowdags

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But you can do so much with so little

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Idc if its made by arzest and made by the same team as superstars

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Superstars was a fine game

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It literally just lacked sauce first and foremost

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The level design, fine
The gameplay, fine

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If a superstars 2 looks better, sounds better, and has better bosses, we are set

gloomy bloom
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that's definitely something that can be improved, hoping if we see more next time around that they do do that

balmy fiber
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Also make it not 60 dollars

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Please

olive vortex
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I don’t think it’s another azrest project

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Especially this early

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Honestly I expected the next azrest be on the 35th anniversary year

balmy fiber
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Its not that early

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At all

olive vortex
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I mean

balmy fiber
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2 years is enough for them to make superstars 2

olive vortex
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Didn’t they just meet Christian whitehead a few months ago?

unique osprey
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Yes a few months ago

random portal
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Evening Star doesnt seem to be doing much after Penny sooooooo

olive vortex
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I think it’s an azrest and evening star game

balmy fiber
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Makes sense

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Total sense even

random portal
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imagine if evening star did a knuckles chaotix remake

olive vortex
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make the hand drawn 2D game happen

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Still so mad that they scrapped that idea

static elm
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I don't think they'll do hand drawn either

olive vortex
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Would’ve loved superstars at least 😭

balmy fiber
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Yea no

olive vortex
balmy fiber
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Too much like

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Work

olive vortex
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It’s gonna be another 3D project

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If it’s pixelated I’d be surprised

random portal
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at least if evening stars involved it wont look as basic as soup

balmy fiber
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I think they are either change to mania sprites or keep superstars style which is defintely gonna be the latter

static elm
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Me wants stylization

olive vortex
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Same

static elm
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Even if it's 3d idc

olive vortex
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I’d want it to be modern

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But they ain’t doin that 💀

steep sequoia
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Next year

olive vortex
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Oh ya I def think it’s next years game

steep sequoia
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Knuckles chaotix remaster

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And then

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Knuckles game

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🗿

olive vortex
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I will say tho

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I’m confident Guinness is next years game

steep sequoia
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Wait what’s Guinness?

balmy fiber
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Honestly easy way

steep sequoia
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Sorry I missed a lot

balmy fiber
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Is them making that comic style skin

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And basing off on that

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The whole game

olive vortex
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Aka from “Ryan from the Bronx”

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And judging by it being codenamed after a beer, it’s either a brand new 2D game or a remaster

steep sequoia
harsh kettle
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an entire game based on yui karasuno.... nah nvm thats too much pastel.... unless?

lost snow
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Superstars 2 before a new modern game is crazy, but I guess we had Shadow Gens

olive vortex
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Oh shit true

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It prob will be classic

balmy fiber
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Keep trip

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Have good music

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Ditch multiplayer (it cant work stop trying)

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Make bosses good

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Change the art direction for something less bland and flat

dry sorrel
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but what if I want online co-op in a Sonic game?

harsh kettle
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incorporate more coop features PLEASE, like amy boosting a player up with her hammer (and literally every comic ever) or a player getting to ride on knuckles as he glides

balmy fiber
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They should make it seperate and not coop

dry sorrel
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online co-op can have players get their own screens
the issue with Superstars is that it tries to fit everyone in one screen and the camera only follows the lead (I think it does, haven't played the co op mode)

steep sequoia
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I’ll say include both mighty and ray from base while utilize the metal doppelgängers more as the next story

balmy fiber
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Oh yea

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DUDE

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WHY

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THE METAL DOPPLEGANGERS

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Where just on a SHITTY BATTLE MODE

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LET US FUCKING PLAY WITH THEM IN SINGLE DAMN PLAYER

olive vortex
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Bro

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Gimme

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A online multiplayer

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Story mode

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Give players their own screen

steep sequoia
olive vortex
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And if they don’t make it to the boss, just teleport them there

steep sequoia
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I was so upset they only exist for battle mode

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I also would love they continue to add more sa1-ish too

harsh kettle
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metal doppelgangers should be skins at least (and that means metal mighty and metal ray please orz)

steep sequoia
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Nah I wanted to be more than that

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Like being part of story mode

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As actual bosses or being threats

harsh kettle
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oh like a metal campaign? but a good one not any of that episode 4 bullshit

harsh kettle
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i wanna see how metal amy, tails and trip actually move and operate

steep sequoia
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Yeah exactly

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Give them a major antagonist role again

harsh kettle
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its so ??? cause their designs are really well thought out but then they're just delegated to... a shitty multiplayer mode that sucks

quaint mountain
steep sequoia
balmy fiber
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I wish they did and made a good game but nope they will try to make that broken mess back

quaint mountain
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I'm just saying that multiplayer can work, doesn't mean they'll do it

balmy fiber
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True true