#Sonic Superstars (spoilers)
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maybe they thought it would've sold alone
Even more so when they probably used up that money for shit like the Summer Games Fest reveal
I am pretty sure they did
Like i think they expected the movie recogintion to do the same for superstars
at the same time they were in summer game fest and gamescom
and they also showed lot of gameplay
Oh yea SGF and ONL
One little thing in my mind is that i feel they are kinda shocked superstars did not come even close to frontiers
Those were very likely the big money sinkers
but by the time gamescom trailer came out it got under blue eyes super sonic shadow
yeah but that`s likw for people who really interested in games
one of the goals of marketing is to make the general audience aware of the game
I mean it was in 2 big events tho
I am shocked it did not
not to mention there probably was the ads on internet and so
and I think it's especially important for superstars because it's the perfect game for families.
Superstars performed strangely much worse than I expected
All that effort to avoid pixel art
and the game still sells like ass
Even more so when Mario and Spider-Man came out that same week
if it was pixel I think it would have been the same
and yeah there is mario wonder and spiderman but remember there was also pokemon and gow last year
Yea but then you get another issue
not to mention frontiers had worst presentation lol
so it had everything to lose
in that month
https://vxtwitter.com/ManuelTheThird/status/1580071598865801216?s=20 i mean they promote ports of persona 5 even more than superstars
Arzest not knowing jack shit about the Retro Engine
it performed as much as i expected
I’d argue Pokémon Scarlet and Violet looked worse than Frontiers
worse than frontiers but better than mania
how you know is better than mania
And that shit is due to how the game looked and ran like ass on the hardware it was on
I wouldn't say it's specifically 2D in general
I think they could do better if it wasn't the same thing as the Classics
yeah but who had the first gameplay looking like shite lmao
Yes!
better launch in UK than Mania,already made a half of revenue of Mania in Steam and better launch in japan
so yeah
you don`t need to be expert to realise that
Still tho
easily to get the revenue faster since super was 60 mania was just 20 lol
i dont think its matter
It’s funny how the billion dollar IP got a game with worse performance and graphics than the 30FPS locked Frontiers
Pokemon Company is even worse than Sammy lol
Compare what news we've been getting since the release of frontiers and how it was with Pokémon
I mean, obviously I didn't expect it to be as big as frontiers
But it should have been a little better
Honestly i am very curious on what they will think
there do was some lack of hype even in the fan base
Cuz they could consider it a success, or a failure
Or jusr lukewarm
i want know what they do from now on with the classic sonic brand
I feel like it's in the middle
Yea
Not bad enough, not good enough
honestly if they just widescreen port heroes it would sell better
I mean lets be honest, Classic isn't the only thing riding on this
This was the 2D game they were making
there just seem to be some lack of interest in 2d sonic
Always has been unfortunately
mania wasnt the case at all because it was like, a anniversary title
Its funny cuz
How well did other 2d sonics sold
but superstars was not fresh aside from co-op and the 3d graphics
And even then, it was more of a fanbase thing
First entries typically over a million, after that less than a million iirc
what I mean is that mania at the time was like a surprise
Sonic 4 might be the exception
cuz it was doing some kind of generations
but for genesis sonic
so it was like woaaaa
Mania exploded bc of taxman as a name imo
Like all of the reactions I've seen just light up like a bonfire as soon as it shows up
Absolutely DOES NOT matter
Can someone get sales out of rush advance and the such
Yea pretty much

but is different cases tho
Just like SA2B was the first sonic game on nintendo
it was the gameboy and DS
I think 1 mil was pretty high at the time
Like idk what are the top gba games in terms of sales
wikipedia says it sold 1.8 millions but vgchartz said it sold like 2.2 overall
Either way around 2 million
overall it sold from 1 million to 2 million overall
so like 4 millions for the whole series
Ayyyy
Sold better than kirby thats kinda good
no sales for rush
Tf
rush adventure only 1 million supposedly
Rush Adventure was robbed hard
Ever think about how Marine ended the entire rush series solely by saying bugger a few times
I think about it a lot
Rush Adventure will always be an obscure gem on the series
no
Erm
colors ds is cool but it doesnt have that rush feel
You see, this makes me think what sega could do to make 2d sonic a thing without being an issue
it lacks lot of stuff from it
They should give 2d sonic keys to some indie dev
And not let it be 60 dollars
nuh uh
“We should put some regional Aussie language in, for authenticity!”
[accidentally uses a swear word]
[pushes the game’s age rating to 12, outside of sonic’s actual target audience]
the fact two versions of Rush Adventure exist (one with bugger, one without where the age rating got revised down to 3) feels like an incredible series of events
Thats very funny
I should play more sooperstars...
Anyways
Honestly i dont want 2d sonic to die but they should defintely be smarter on what to do with it
Like less expensive
Mf literally killed all original handheld games 😭😭
they should’ve done this with superstars, let c sonic say fuck
Literally the ONE time people would have been fine with Sonic being a budget game
And
also re: sales im still not concerned honestly, chrimbo is coming
They made it 60 dollars lmao
They blow it on "muh brand reputation"
Cuz superstars is not 60 dollars it should have never been 60 dollars
It looks like a 3ds game
I dont know what they were thinking lol
This is Sonic this is NOT a Nintendo game 1-800-come-on-now
Next time they gotta learn to be more humble
frontiers was also 60 bros...
Yes...
Yes and it was a way bigger game
Is all froniteris fallt
Superstars is basically a 2 hour game with an extra hard mode and thats it
They always get cocky
Someone either at sega or st didn't like the discount/budget bin forces got thrown into ig
For the wrong reasons
Like WE WILL BE FINE THIS IS LIKE MANIA EVERYONE WILL WANT THIS
no
Digital sales are one thing, less so concerned about physical sales tho cos like
the stores already bought their wholesale stock from sega
the money has been made
Sonic Cycle but for retailer chains
yup
whether stores can clear that stock out, now that’s on the stores lol
It reminds me of that spongebob episode where spongebob does a thing well then is dismissed and euther squidward or mr. Krabs get the idea for themselves and do it wrong
"it's gonna sell millions this time trust me pam"
It would all be fine if superstars wasnt full price
isnt sega gonna have the q2 sales thing this or next month
My wallet still hurts
Superstars made me want to replay other sonic games that arent it
Yesterday i played sa2 for the first time since frontiers came out
Now im playing heroes
Nah im team sonic
True but i dont wanna get my ass kicked i just wanna play heroes again lmao
Fair 
The goobers 
Cuz internet opinions made me think heroes and sa2 are bad games
And im playing it and uh
Rail Canyon has that dickish rail that doesnt launch you far enough
....
Yea thats it
And the special stages suck ass
Heroes is a weird one to think about
That's what gets me lol
What do you mean how
Like
Sonic Heroes Ultimate letsgoooooooooo!!!!!
I mean better controls
Just porting it fully
$60 release, team rose is now DLC
Bc like I said Heroes is weird
I think it makes sense for team chaotix to be dlc
NO IT WAS A BIT IT WAS A BIT
Heroes would have to have a kh1 hd type redo
ABORT ABORT ABORT
LMAO
Cuz of renderware and stuff
Just give it to someone competent, give em time, let them work
Make it nice and polished
Hang on...
Hell it can even look like the og
Heroes in DLC packs...
But with better textures and such
That sounds both awful and great
Nah its fin
How do you release heroes
I didnt even do rhat with superstars
All like that
?
To the public
I dont get what u mean
Its sonic heroes all ot has wrong is gameplay
"Oh you have to play as four teams in order to complete it and I hated it"
Like the format itself
Release it into a bin
the next financial report on november 8
but it`l be lucky just gonna be frontiers sales
Same
Still, we don't know how Superstars did in terms of sales
Pepito did you look at the sonic rush/adventure sales
Those are like defacto 2D Sonic in our eyes
In terms of style at least
But if it didn't well, I think it's because of the release date was just horrible and that it cost too much
they're the main two reasons
yeah ofc 2D won't do as great as 3d games lmao
I mean there's always the Colors/Colors DS format
Not exactly 50/50 sales there but it was close
Apparently Rush sold 1.29m copies as of March 2007
Hmmm the numbers on retro should be updated then 
Persona makes money, or rather more impoertantly has the perception internally that it will make money. And thsu is worth the marketing budget
Sonic makes money, or rather more impoertantly has the perception internally that it will make money. And thsu is worth the marketing budget
Mario makes money, or rather more impoertantly has the perception internally that it will make money. And thsu is worth the marketing budget
duuuude this super fight is soooo asss
i reach to the part where it fires meteors at u but i deadass have no idea what it wants me to do, like does it want me parry it or what
this game is so ass
The reticle part is really weird yeah
You have to press it slightly before it meets the circle iirc
Shoutout to Trip and Amy showing up in the fight only if you don't get any knockback btw
perfect parry 😭
game overall or just the boss
i do think the finale just makes it sooo miserable to play through that i would say, yeah superstars is kinda bad
would play 4 over it any day
yes
Fang and the Black Dragon are just soooo fucking shit
who at arzest thought the late game bosses were a good idea
The first 6 levels are great and then it just nosedives in fun
I will say this
I never want to play cyber station again
i like the level
but the boss, being a lategame one, easily becomes an endurance test
i used tails to help things
Cyber Station was pretty alright imo, the mouse section was the part I didnt really like
it's passable
I thought the level design was really unintuitve
how many tries did it take for you guys to clear that section
2
The first one I fucked up a movement by the very end
the second was the one I made it.
later levels aren't as open, so i just feel im pushing forward and autopilot myself
4-5 ig but its not too bad but its just tedious
i liked the rockets though
trips ver of the rocket section kinda sucked
cause getting rings woud get u killed
which is so cheap and bs
i haven't even made it past the main campaign 
where u at?
ive gotten pretty close on the egg fortress boss with tails but died at the last 2 or so hits
ooooh
ill try again when i get my switch back
damn yeah that boss is a cakewalk compared to fang and the dragon
they're both annoying endurance tests
absolutely hate the lasers and the lava
you can't even see them sometimes due to how the screen scrolls
It would be like this
Purple eyes black Dragon (YGO pun) >~ Super Fighting Robot Fangman >~ Egg Samurai
for me
ive been hearing these are internal names right
2 out of 3 are puns I did
the egg samurai one is internal name, yeah
I do think they should be shorter in their sequences but I never found them unfair by any means
well only one way to find out and it's you playing it
I'm surprised..
just to make an opinion out of it
yeah i'm waiting till i can get it for like 20 bucks used
I mean
Even if you think you will hate it (or simply already do), experiencing it can still be something interesting
But yes, please do not get the game for $60 lol
yeah 60$ is too much
the most important is buying it in a way that doesn't give sega money tbh
but yeah it doesn't seem to be worth more than like 30 bucks
Got it for 20 and I’m just about satisfied
i hate what it represents for the franchise, not the game itself
would’ve been livid if I got it full price lol
Apparentely there is a christmas disguise within the code
so maybe some other stuff will be added in the future
well if it's paid dlc... it's gonna be funny
not the christmas thing
i'm talking about the "more content"
I will definitely not doubt they will at least think about doing some kind of Plus (+) expansion type DLC
It feels like it's just going to be tradition after Origins had done it
I will wait and see what they add
Not sure if I will buy it but tbf my options are fairly limited to what I can buy
as an idea
this is the second game I bought this year
If it's bought then man
I will say it, this game is a hundred percent not worth as much as it costs
Even if I like it
Yeah I think 40 would be better
then again, taxes would make it 50 here
or so, ultimately making me pay more anyway 
(I hate regional prices)
I would pay 30 ngl lol
$30 would have been good, I'm still not sure what exactly caused them to decide $60 should have been it
Aside from the possibility of greed
Idk
It's hard to say
there are several factors that come into play so
it could be greed, but also something else
or something else impulsed by greed initially
etc etc
40 at the very maximum
Yall I got Cyber Station's melody stuck in my head.
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I already talked about the guy yesterday
the forces of the classic era....
I just started Trip's story
man I really cant be bothered to finish this game
Like I dont hate it
its just bland as shit
Just like Trip. 😮


Dude hates a design so much
I never said I hated it though. 
With the amount of potshots you take at it you may as well have 
The only “potshot” I dished out towards Trip was on the 18th of this month. Otherwise, I don’t think about her. 
Acting like Fang 😭
How the fuck do you use the speech bubble bot here on mobile?!
Nah, to be like Fang I’d have to actively think about her with malicious intent. She’s not worth thinking about from my perspective. 
im sorry, but you think of her more than half of this server 😭
What 💀
He is right and I think no one will disagree with Henry
(this one was more annoying to do. There were some blurry edges that made it hard to determine if the image was well placed or not)
I barely mention the character at all lol.
Last time I did it was because she was relevant to the discussion since it was about Amy pairings.
says the one with a pfp of one of the blandest and most boring character design ever
this is so real...

ikr ? i'm always spitting 
damn, i might need to buy glasses cuz i can't see where i said this
Who said anything about you? I obviously wasn’t referring to you.
TELL EM 🔥
this is like when @tranquil harbor joins the chat
for real 💯
this was so out there i thought it was syn who said it for like 8 seconds 😭
LMAO
I will!! its the only bit of Trip I don't dig lmao
That’s fair
its so funny to me that the chaos emeralds grant one (1) super form to a girl and it looks like
that
I don’t think it’ll be everyone’s cup of tea since it looks pretty goofy.
But for me it’s perfect.
Been there done that
Because that isn't the factor sadly lol
You have to get no knockback for about a minute iirc
And good luck with that during some of these attacks lmao
yeah thats suuuuper specific
Oh that's why I don't see Trip
They are just both together
Wait that's the condition? I wrote it off as just being straight up random
the lesbian urge to fly on in with a big flicky if you're super low on rings and give you ring boxes
(genuinely couldnae make these two less straight if they TRIED)
Trip is to Amy like Mighty is to Knuckles
thats right!! 🏳️🌈 ‼️
oh wow, that’s just a scrapped Frontiers mechanic brought into a Classic Sonic game
Probably also done without the dev team knowing that it was even in Frontiers before it got scrapped
I smell the spices on this one... this is well cooked
omg....
he's a modernbro,,,,
like us,,,,,,,,,.,
Don't call me slurs
LOOOOOL
Modern moron lookin ass
@toxic canopy if you need me, wait until I finish up this meal
dont make me choose,,,,,,,
Only one answer
his ass deserves his own category
i support segregation of hedgehogs 🖐️
You're a sick bastard
@deft pulsar this man is bullying me, i leave this to u....
Rell is the og
^^
I remember his old chiaki pfp
OG TC folk never bite each other in the back
Sorry Hamada is the goat. I will not be defending u
fuck u hoe
Ahhhhh u mad
yea i am 🥺
I didn’t btw I just hide it better 😃
LOOL
Danganronpa bad but ok
Yea
I see danganronpa and I look away now
I personally regret very single time i spent with the series
The series had me branch out into new things at a time where I refused to
So I cant hate it
Except for that one game
thank you very much mr hamada...
YOU THE GOAT‼️
Get this white woman off your phone
Your honor, they’re lesbian.
TRUE‼️‼️
This is the peak of Classic character design
This is the peak of Classic character design
This is the peak of Modern character design
Bruh, I want to draw her, but im too tired whenever I get back from work
Yeah sonic superstars was a joke
https://discord.com/channels/172394039788830730/1161401022707683378 say that a little louder……
so uh
should this channel be locked?
since its been 2 moths and well nobody cared about spoilers
Honestly yeah







