#The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog [SPOILERS]

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haughty loom
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since that was rouge's objective from her character card

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the bomb scene is the best

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all of the joke options you can choose

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and the best part is that the cast just take's barry's word at face value

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even when he's very clearly joking

still hare
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The bomb scene was the funniest, yeah

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the second one is the reveal of the mystery

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at least imo

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just I adored all the jokes with Espio and such

fallen elm
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Sly Cooper's origin story (I know they're two separate animals)

haughty loom
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the corruption

pseudo canyon
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Time to compile a bunch of scenarios and conceptualize ways to put sonic characters in it for a vn game

still hare
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Visual novels definetely are a great way to have little stories to enjoy

fallen elm
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Have them be in more outfits

pseudo canyon
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I just had a fun idea

haughty loom
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i just realized that rouges sunglasses are properly sized to cover her eyes adequately if she chose to put them on

pseudo canyon
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I'd love to see them play with these weird dimension things that eggman has experimented with, could be a mystery/escape type thing.

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This entire mini arc thing had something cool going on

still hare
light anvil
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Aw yeah, the edgy pmvs have already started

still hare
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pmvs?

elder loom
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what is a pmv

light anvil
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Picture music videos

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Like amvs but without the animation part

elder loom
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oh…

light anvil
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Anyway smash

gilded field
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She's like 50

elder loom
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You are correct, she is indeed over the age of fifty

light anvil
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I dont see the problem

heady frost
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AND?

gilded field
haughty loom
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better to simp for someone who's actually of legal age rather than a child imo

elder loom
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Facts

gilded field
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Horniness over all, huh you guys 😔

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Your freedom to simp, I suppose

elder loom
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not me

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I was in agreement with you

pseudo canyon
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Sonic series and making its mom characters sweet asf

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(there's only 2 mom's)

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Who said she had to be 50! She could be likeee

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M*d 40s, much better

gilded field
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130k likes!!! We ballin!!!

still hare
light anvil
muted star
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DANG IT

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I FELL FOR IT

light anvil
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Kinda unrelated but I just remembered that sonic canonically died 2 times now, 3 if you count this game (since hes not really dead)

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I wonder if the dude has trauma now

elder loom
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inconsistent hyphen spacing

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and why would the name of the game be in the title of every track

light anvil
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So barry is a quokka

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These mfs

hollow scarab
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They look like theyre always smiling

hollow apex
# light anvil These mfs

I was researching these guys earlier today, and there's always a top comment that talks about how the moms will leave their babies to die if a predator attacks

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Like... Just enjoy the smile who cares about morbid trivia

light anvil
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Barry the autistic non-binary Quokka

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My favourite sonic character right there

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Aw hell nah, they're a quokka, that means Barrys australian

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Rest in peace

still hare
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LOL

light anvil
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Barry the Microwave Master should be the main character of the series from now on

gilded field
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This would be the second time his heart just...restarted

light anvil
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Yes im talking about 06 and idw

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In murder of sonic the hedgehog he was just knocked out

gilded field
light anvil
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And shadow said it was faint, barry just didn't look for it well, he was just knocked out from the poison and from fighting the robot while under the influence of the poison, we was very fucked up but not dead

hollow scarab
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must suck to be all banged up and everyone just praising him for his acting.

light anvil
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Barry is just a they failure

gilded field
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Everyone else: Man, Sonic's really getting into it!
Meanwhile Sonic: -internal screaming-

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In hindsight they were dang lucky the badnik train gave them actual nonlethal poison, or at least poison Sonic was able to walk off with his freakish physiology

light anvil
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What internal screaming mans was unconcious

gilded field
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Espio could have accidentally killed him without knowing

gilded field
light anvil
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I like to think Barry and Tails remained friends after the story

hollow scarab
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Yea they stayed in touch through social media

light anvil
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They go to the movies and barry is like "tails...tails..theres a trash can"

gilded field
light anvil
hollow scarab
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yes

gilded field
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Where was that

light anvil
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So...headcanon, Barry has a small crush on blaze, they flippin asked her "can I be ur spouse as a joke jk just a prank"

gilded field
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And Blaze immediately said "idk do you have a history of war crimes"

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Girl you are 14

still hare
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That doesn't stop someone of doing war crimes ?

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or their families lol

light anvil
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No-one has an age, they're all ageless

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The only characters that we know are children are tails,cream and charmy

heady frost
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He just

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doesn't die there

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Knuckles does

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But Sonic just tanks universal annihilation like 3 times

light anvil
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Knuckles does a lot in archie

gilded field
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I mean IDW is canon-adjacent, Archie is a different beast

hollow apex
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Their age is kids years old

heady frost
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I mean maybe he died vs Master Mogul but that got like

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super retconned

light anvil
hollow apex
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Yes

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Teens

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Weird way to spell teens

still hare
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Yeah. Nothing denies it and, at this point, it technically can be due to infinite's dialogue in forces implying Sonic faced eggman for decades

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(stupid comment but it is what it is lol)

light anvil
gilded field
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I doubt Sonic is in his 30s

light anvil
hollow scarab
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I think teens are just treated like adults

still hare
heady frost
hollow scarab
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And they're probably just doing pokemon aging

gilded field
still hare
hollow apex
light anvil
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Anyway she slayed

hollow apex
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Neat!

gilded field
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They made it in Unity 3D?

wispy dune
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barry the quokka it is

muted star
lofty ice
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I hate Sonic now

bitter tulip
hard bough
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me waiting for yellowflash2 to make a 30 minute video about how barry uses they/them and how it ruined sonic (he doesn’t give a shit about sonic) AsukaBall

gilded field
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It's a holy month Pichu, restrain yourself TailsGun

ancient vale
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Birthday month :0

wispy dune
dull turret
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for a while

pseudo canyon
dull turret
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mommy

prisma garnet
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Well fuck here goes another crackship

prisma garnet
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Peter parker x microwave mary jane

ancient vale
pseudo canyon
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LMFAO Barry says big oof near the end of the game

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Truly the best sonic character

wispy dune
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wait what

pseudo canyon
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If u fail one of the mini games

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They say big oof

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Should be a reoccurring line just to fuck with people

hard bough
pseudo canyon
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W

fallen elm
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Ain't no way

gilded field
bitter tulip
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LMFAOOO

prisma garnet
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%^*$/,(>%:RHBLJGGXTNKOI

hollow scarab
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Imagine just minding your own business and you just randomly start hearing beatboxing

wispy dune
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that moment always makes me smile

hollow scarab
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Someone needs to draw the other characters reaction.

prisma garnet
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Rouge: my shoes dont have laces does anyone how to tie a knot
Barry: i do but i gotta sing a little song while i do it
Tails: ok veto this plan
Barry: guess someone didnt want to hear my song

dull turret
dull turret
pseudo canyon
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Watching Devin macks playthrough of the game and he made Barry sound like jaleel whites sonic LMAO

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I'm surprised he can even do that voice, must not underestimate him

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My sonic cartoon nostalgia is being hit

prisma garnet
long elm
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This game is amazing LMAO

prisma garnet
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Ikr

long elm
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Also THIS PROVES TO THE MFS SAYING SONIC FRIENDS ARE USELESS

prisma garnet
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I need more

pseudo canyon
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I gotta see that Sage and Metal dynamic in action some day

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Need to see them jump sonic

gilded field
dull turret
ancient vale
dull turret
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indeed

wispy dune
wispy dune
wispy dune
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words from the artist

fallen elm
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That's cute

bitter tulip
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Fr

prisma garnet
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Oh thats fucking adorable

hard bough
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WHATBTHE FUCK

lofty ice
burnt breach
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Just finished it

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it was nice

bitter tulip
light anvil
jade spruce
fallen elm
prisma garnet
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Fr

bitter tulip
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why did I laugh to this....

dull turret
muted star
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Based Katie

muted star
wispy dune
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😔

haughty loom
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at least he went out on a laugh

fallen elm
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Lmao

dull turret
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dead

gilded field
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Ohhhhh this is the artist who drew the Sonic vs Surge comic

dull turret
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ohhhh, mind sharing it ?

gilded field
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When I designed the conductor, his wife, and Barry, I went in with the intention of going for a Christmas sort of vibe. The Conductor being a mix of Santa and just a big ol’ Christmas tree. The conductor’s wife being like Mrs. Claus. Barry being like santa’s elves lol.

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Really cool note from DeeGeeMin

haughty loom
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does he know?

gilded field
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Barry, the conductor, and his wife are all from Christmas Island!

haughty loom
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isn't sonic apparently not from christmas island anymore

gilded field
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Don't ruin this for me

haughty loom
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too late

gilded field
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Unless they explicitly state that Sonic is from x place or his origin is 100% unknown, I'm still just going to go off Christmas Island for him tbh

haughty loom
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that's fair enough

gilded field
haughty loom
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the deep lore

long elm
haughty loom
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i mean, people don't casually bring up where they were born in conversation

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and even something like your hometown is something you only tend to tell people when prompted

pseudo canyon
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Canon in my books

civic prawn
grizzled yoke
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finally finished it and damn it was a blast

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did not expect the whole twist and tone at the end, thought it'd be all a silly game with some misunderstanding but that was pretty nice

dull turret
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yeah the twist is pretty nice

grizzled yoke
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||also idk why I feel bad for the train lmao 😭||

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should've expected the flicky to end up in the story, was actually thinking it was a twist villain (guess in a way I was kinda close??)

wispy dune
grizzled yoke
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anyways, Barry is cool and the conductor is nice and his wife is neat

wispy dune
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||the train just wanted friends sadsonic ||

dull turret
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😔

prisma garnet
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The train just was programmed with an idea of an eternal friendship and couldnt understand mortality

grizzled yoke
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kinda a sad existence ngl

dull turret
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fr

prisma garnet
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Making it codependant and having a toxic fallout

grizzled yoke
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eggman out there making more fucked up shit in the end ||and I'm always here for it||

prisma garnet
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Its honestly pretty real lmfao

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A friend that helps the other but the friendship doesnt last and one of them goes insane with the idea that their friendship wasnt forever

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God knows that happens everywhere lmfao

grizzled yoke
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this shit being in a silly little april fools, I would never expect

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they really went wild with this

prisma garnet
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Honestly very similar to Black Knight

grizzled yoke
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Murder Team did a bang up job, gooooood stuff

prisma garnet
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I want them to work on more please

dull turret
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oh yeah

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def

prisma garnet
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This cant be a one and done thing

grizzled yoke
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I'd be so disappointed if this was

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we definitely need more

wispy dune
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said this a lot already, but sega should really take note of tmos' popularity

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make more visual novels

grizzled yoke
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hope the success of this makes more stuff like this more likely to happen again

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gimme an escape room sonic vn

prisma garnet
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Yes

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Bring barry back

grizzled yoke
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Barry..

prisma garnet
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Make them the protagonist of the VN series

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While Sonic most of the time is away

grizzled yoke
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that or it's some convoluted reason why he can't save the day

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or do whatever

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also the idea of the Think mini-game - I understand if some would find them annoying, personally I enjoyed the concept of them and think the assist options were a handy thing to have

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music for the mini-game kinda reminded me of something out of a Shuffle mini-game, sounded a bit familiar

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basically, I thought the mini-game was an interesting touch, and it building up to the end was pretty cool

dull turret
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i liked those mini games

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even tho obv the asymetric cam didn't helped a lot of people

grizzled yoke
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the moment when the sonic running has a hat now bog

dull turret
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not my case cuz i don't have a skill issue

prisma garnet
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I liked the think minigame

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Wasnt too hard

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Neither too long

dull turret
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yeah

grizzled yoke
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I liked how some of the obstacles were based on the character you're confronting

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clever addition

dull turret
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yeah

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the shurikens for espio

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for example

grizzled yoke
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though it didn't seem Rouge or Blaze got anything like that, in fact their version didn't even show up until the end

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which I guess makes sense since most of the activity was the whole egg thing

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which was a blast lmao

dull turret
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oh yeah 💀

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really liked this whole section

grizzled yoke
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I like how you can get Tails concerned over playing the slots

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until he just gets bored and waits in a corner 💀

dull turret
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BIG MONEY!! BIG MONEY!!

wispy dune
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he gambled so much that he's banned from the casino

wispy dune
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thought it'd just continue looping

grizzled yoke
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details like that I love

hard bough
long elm
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Oh yeah this one

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It’s my favorite too

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Sonic music never disappoints

prisma garnet
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I really like this ost

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Is more casual but ofc it is

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Its meant to be

hard bough
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yep

prisma garnet
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Also this is just sonic x jp music

grizzled yoke
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I appreciated the OST, though my favourite would be the DreamGear, Casino Area (and the safe area) along with the music that plays during confronting characters

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pretty nice soundtrack overall, especially for something like this

remote hazel
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personally my fav track is sonics theme

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i love it doesnt matter so much and this being the first game to use it as his theme since satbk made me feel things

grizzled yoke
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it was a nice arrangement

remote hazel
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its also a nice contrast from the rest of the ost

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a little more upbeat

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and really fits sonics role in the story there

prisma garnet
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THIS IS GONNA SOUND WEIRD

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but doesnt sonics theme sounds vagely sonic 3k title screen lmao

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Like I know it is sa2 it doesnt matter

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But it also has like

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Sonic 3k vibes

remote hazel
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I get moreso mania vibes from the instruments

grizzled yoke
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or hear what you mean

remote hazel
jade spruce
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the W

prisma garnet
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MAKE MORE

muted star
grizzled yoke
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W W W W W W W

hollow apex
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Damn

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1 mil

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It's free but still

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Considering it's an April Fools game in 1 language only

crystal kettle
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I may be grandstanding but a sequel is inevitable at this point, yeah?

hollow apex
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No

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Let them do something more ambitious

crystal kettle
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I don’t mean like a literal sequel

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I mean another VN

hollow apex
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More ambitious

crystal kettle
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Ace Attorney sized VN?

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what the fuck

dull turret
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and i wouldn't mind 🫡

prisma garnet
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I would buy 60 dollars for this and more

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A 50 hour sonic visual novel with voice acting, long stories, tons of characters

bitter tulip
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I know something that’ll be so ambitious

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Predicted in the Gaia Manuscripts 26 years ago…

gilded field
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I love his smug little smirk

upbeat fern
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sega please just give me sonic rpg

lofty ice
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they already did give you one on the DS

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it’s the reason why we will never get another Sonic RPG

hollow apex
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No it's not

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The game has a 7.4/10 on metacritic

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It wasn't badly received at the time

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And I'm sure it sold decently

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It's just that the relationship with Bioware died after EA bought them

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And the reason there hasn't been an RPG since?

prisma garnet
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I think sega just doesnt want to do another one

hollow apex
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Well it's the same reason there's no recent fighting game

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Sega just doesn't do those sort of spin-offs anymore

prisma garnet
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Yep

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It is kind of a shame tho

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I hope murder brings in more stuff like this

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Maybe sega outsourcing games

tranquil plover
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also worth noting if they did another one ST would be very hands on, cos like

hollow apex
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I mean

tranquil plover
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chronicles also started the legal car crash that brought archie to its knees lol

hollow apex
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Yeah

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I think sega were very hands on with Chronicles too

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The only weird thing is really the swat bots

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But the rest was very inline with what SoJ cooked in the past for Sonic

tranquil plover
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thankfully they've also got their ducks more in a row legally when it comes to IDW too, which helps matters

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if the IDW would pop up anywhere it's mmmmmost likely an RPG, realistically

hollow apex
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See if Boingkid guy was writing for IDW

tranquil plover
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JB ZDXJSVMK HGF XDRB

hollow apex
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Then we'll see sega's legal prowess

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But everyone on the writing team is sane now

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No Kenders, no Boingkids

hollow apex
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Martha?,

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You mean

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Marza

tranquil plover
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had nearly forgotten about boingkid til you brought it up 💀💀

hollow apex
crystal kettle
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Chronicles is a bit sad because I’m working with a few friends on a lore related sonic thing and it’s kinda eye opening seeing how they tried to tie everything with the echidnas and gizoids together

hollow apex
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And then sega tossed it away

crystal kettle
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If only they didn’t try to arbitrarily tease a sequel

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maybe then they would’ve been bothered to leave a open door for it 😭

hollow scarab
ancient vale
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😔

modern mulch
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Obviously not

bitter tulip
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okay but if it was 😭

upbeat fern
gilded field
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Persona-style Sonic RPG bog

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Does it end with ||Sonic dying on a school rooftop||

lyric pilot
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I'd be down for another sonic rpg fr

upbeat fern
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?

daring mist
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Since when?!

upbeat fern
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What do you mean

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SEGA's had Atlus for a while now

daring mist
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You said Bioware

upbeat fern
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no?

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I said "fuck Bioware" and I meant SEGA owns Atlus, they can try again

daring mist
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Oh...I misread that

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My bad

upbeat fern
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The only funny resetera post

dull turret
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wtf 😭

wispy dune
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*61st 🤓

haughty loom
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at least

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and i mean the original persona 5, not royal

bitter tulip
wispy dune
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it only just occured to me that this is already at 1/3 of frontiers total sales

bitter tulip
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Free game = banger

grizzled yoke
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we need more cool smaller things like this

daring mist
haughty loom
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ah

regal olive
dull turret
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D:

grizzled yoke
pseudo canyon
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Tell her frfr

muted star
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They’re playing the OST on stream ungh

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They need to release it

lofty ice
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Don’t worry

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They’ll release it

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On cassette

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Next year

sick yacht
daring mist
hollow apex
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Not the Jam

grizzled yoke
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Gimme the Jam

dull turret
muted star
ancient vale
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Also I guess this DOES prove that story matters in a sonic game

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So we can shut those people up :)

dull turret
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nah mania + and cd are above

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i said that yesterday

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rn TMoSTH is 3rd tied with sa2

sick yacht
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And this is just an April fools game

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It being free probably helped a ton

sick yacht
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Not to say that story doesn't matter of course, But it's a visual novel

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The story matters much more for that kind of genre

grizzled yoke
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both Safe tracks are divine

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posted this in the music topic but forgot this could count as spoiler-y

still hare
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Not that this game doesnt deserve the praise. It absolutely does, just it has it higher because the grades are higher and the number of reviews from critics is much lower than the average sonic game at the moment

prisma garnet
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good, critics cant ruin it

fallen elm
gilded field
grizzled yoke
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lmfao

burnt breach
still hare
ruby ember
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Decided to give this game a try, ended up finding out some of the censors didn't block certain things, creating this lovely screencap

fallen elm
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💀

tranquil plover
still hare
ruby ember
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@pure lantern My man

pure lantern
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What

pure lantern
hollow apex
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Ouuu

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I just saw a fax tweet that people won't like

wispy dune
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the racing community is dying....

ruby ember
pure lantern
wispy dune
bitter tulip
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how do I repost

muted star
lyric pilot
hollow apex
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Why are ya'll team racist

lofty ice
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I am not a part of Team Racist

dull turret
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based

gilded field
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Crack theory: Sonic orchestrated the events of the entire game so that the train would stop and he could get Amy a cake

haughty loom
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I feel like that's a bit over sonic's paygrade but if it jives with you, that's great

gilded field
haughty loom
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I know, that's why i said if you jive with it, that's great

gilded field
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It's not supposed to be taken seriously

bitter tulip
ruby ember
haughty loom
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i'm more impressed that the bakery could make an ay themed cake on such short notice

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those guys are the fastest things alive

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unless amy is so popular that they would use her likeness for marketing

modern mulch
prisma garnet
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shadamy > sonamy

fallen elm
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Bakuraka ass ship

prisma garnet
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both are bad still

fallen elm
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Nah

prisma garnet
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ya

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c;

hard bough
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It sounds so dumb

fallen elm
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I don't like the ship so I don't know the name for it

gilded field
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What is your reasoning

elder loom
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you guys have really liked to talk about shipping lately

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whats up

gilded field
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I actually really liked Bakuraraka back in the day

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Idk dude

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Though ngl TMOSTH has put me in a rare Sonamy mood

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They're too sweet in that game

elder loom
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i think that if i wasn't in the sonic fandom i would've liked their moments

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but instead they just made me roll my eyes

fallen elm
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Henry likes toxic ships

elder loom
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because all i thought about was how annoying all my friends would be after playing it

dull turret
dull turret
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idc tbh so it doesn't really bother me

gilded field
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Oh come on can't we separate the game from the fandom

elder loom
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its the debates

bitter tulip
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erm, the game was made by the fans…for the fans! nerd_cat

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/j

dull turret
dull turret
prisma garnet
prisma garnet
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You can like it ofc thats not a dictation on what you can like ClassicSonic

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Shipping be a difficult topic

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No wonder david wants to stay away

tranquil plover
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me, confident in knowing Amy/Tekno is the best ship and that everyone else is wrong

tranquil plover
bitter tulip
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my favorite ship is my flying BMW

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5+ years of ownership and we still have a very healthy driver to machine relationship

elder loom
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my favorite ship is S.S. Misery Lil' Lappy

prisma garnet
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Lesbians

tranquil plover
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lesbians ‼️

prisma garnet
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happy and free with eachother

tranquil plover
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gujyhbujvujhju

prisma garnet
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Im glad you got it

tranquil plover
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well now I can't NOT post it lmaoooo

prisma garnet
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LMFAO

tranquil plover
prisma garnet
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YEAAAAAA

long elm
prisma garnet
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You mean like evan stanley

long elm
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More like what deegee did

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I can tell he used the model as reference

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I just need my art style for once man

gilded field
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sorry if it came across like i was judging you for your ship preferences

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sonamy definitely isn't everyone's cup of tea. usually i'm neutral about it too

prisma garnet
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NAH ITS OKAY

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seriously

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I get what you mean from the start, im just very feisty about a useless topic like shipping

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At the end IF FIND CUTE, ENJOY

gilded field
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shipping is fun to argue about when you know it's in good fun

prisma garnet
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agreed

gilded field
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and i have shipped some weeeeeird stuff so i am definitely not one to talk

prisma garnet
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That may have come off as weirder as you actually mean sjxkdkzk

gilded field
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i mean like

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sonurge

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nothing horrible like god forbid...sontails

prisma garnet
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I dont consider that weird

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SONURGE THAT IS

gilded field
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LOL

prisma garnet
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seems very popular

gilded field
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it's kind of niche but it's got some occasional cute art

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and i'm a sucker for enemy ships

prisma garnet
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Fair enough

dull turret
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it got popularized

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by uh... what's his name already ?

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oh yeah, maniac

ancient vale
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my favourite ship is the one from jojo part 3

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the one that's a stand controlled by an orangutan wearing a captain outfit

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(rip in piss😔)

gilded field
dull turret
viral wigeon
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Finally started playing

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Bro what the fuck is Tails’ problem I asked him if he wanted a menu and he was like “ohhhh I don’t like reading things from strangers” like dude it’s a fucking menu

regal olive
hollow apex
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W

gilded field
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She's so cute here though

dull turret
bitter tulip
rough egret
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Hey so, small confesion

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I hadn´t actually played the game for many reasons.........UNTIL NOW

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Charming little game. Those were some very entertaining 3 hours

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Once again hope Sega has SOA/SOE make more of these in the future

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I rate it: ifIhearyounitpickthisgameImstealingsomethingfromyourhouse/10

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Also wow, that minigame got hands

rough egret
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Btw, HOW DARE THEY

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I though they were finally introducing Honey but it turned out to be some literal whos bee backstreetbois wannabees sadsonic

haughty loom
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if you thought an april fool's game was going to reintroduce an obscure character, than idk what to say

bitter tulip
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we were so close honeybros 😭

sick yacht
bitter tulip
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mommy? yes.

sick yacht
haughty loom
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she's 17

bitter tulip
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okay, enough with the joke, i can't stoop down that much like soni 💀

regal olive
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😭

burnt breach
dull turret
rough egret
dull turret
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WTF

hollow scarab
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Damn no was was able to get bulls eye

ancient vale
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funny

dull turret
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?????

regal olive
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😭

sick yacht
rough egret
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Its a nice inteview. Rare kotaku W

hollow apex
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Kotaku when they discover there's people behind making the video games

rough egret
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It would be nice if we got this dude as writer for sonic related-arcticles more often instead of the usual hacks

still hare
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Out of context this is a yandere ass moment XD

regal olive
dull turret
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awww

dull turret
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I WAS WAITING FOR THIS

fallen elm
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Lmao

hard bough
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That’s amazing 😭

still hare
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LOL

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SO GOOD

gilded field
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YESSSSS

civic prawn
regal olive
hollow apex
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Why is Nights blue

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Is this a Smash alt

bitter tulip
muted star
ancient vale
gilded field
fallen elm
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LMAO

rough egret
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😭

grizzled yoke
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lmfao

dull turret
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LMFAO

still hare
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO

hard bough
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L

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M

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F

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A

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O

prisma garnet
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KFSGHLHSLYWHLYSBK6WBKTAK6WHK

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thats so good

hollow scarab
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In another world kys has a different meaning lol

viral wigeon
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LMAO

sick yacht
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kiss yourself

gilded field
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These doofuses

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Also new art of Sonic's cold dead body

burnt breach
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I watched Yahtzee’s video and… honestly, what does he even want?

He’s made clear multiple times he doesn’t like the “tonal dissonance” in Sonic games, basically when they’re darker than what he wants.

Then when we get something pretty in line with the tone he expects.. he doesn’t like it? Then what gives? What’s the argument this time? That it wasn’t an edgy april fools joke where Sonic actually died?

prisma garnet
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He should just give up on this franchise

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The fact he did a video on this game fucking sucks

burnt breach
prisma garnet
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Good

ancient vale
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I only know Yeezus

burnt breach
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Good.

ancient vale
still hare
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This is merely an hypothesis. I cannot declare if it is the case

fallen elm
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"I hate when they take themselves seriously"

gives a light hearted visual novel

"Oh ewww this is an actual game and not actual murder? Get this shit outta my face"

ancient vale
dull turret
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yeah it's just bashing a game just for th sake of it

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it's a dumb vid

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that's about it

upbeat fern
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Going to Yahtzee for a serious opinion on a videogame is a choice I guess

rough egret
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Oh I was wondering who you guys were talking about, its that dumbass that looks like the PC Master Race dude lol

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Yeah I clearly remember his, "critiques" , on Frontiers Excuseme

daring mist
rough egret
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Ah

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Bruh

daring mist
bitter tulip
sick yacht
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Bro's turned into papyrus

wispy dune
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《刺猬索尼克谋杀案》(The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog)中文化MOD发布预告。

本MOD包含:
·游戏对话、图片、界面100%中文化;
·对话回放功能
·角色中文名输入

本MOD为同人制作,请勿商用
#索尼克
#刺猬索尼克
#SonicTheHedgehog

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fan translation of tmos HappyChao

rough egret
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Nice

grizzled yoke
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Nice

bitter tulip
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Nice

hollow apex
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Nice

gilded field
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Nice

dull turret
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Nice

sick pebble
# dull turret that's about it

He basically said outright that he only reviewed the game because he had a deadline and very little time to meet it. (Don’t recall why precisely, but there was a physical event. Pax?) Doubt he would’ve touched it if he had more time.

haughty loom
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surely there are other things to talk about than one reviewer that is disliked

sick pebble
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Why is he so hated anyways?

haughty loom
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he doesn't like sonic and hs reasons are "sonic is cartoon. cartoon shouldn't be serious"

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that's it

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most people would just ignore things that make them upset

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especially when it's made by people who clearly don't know what they're talking about

gilded field
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Calling a fake murder mystery "serious," much less "too serious," is hilarious

haughty loom
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i mean, that was just towards sonic in general

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he felt that the murder mystery game not actually murdering sonic was a waste of an april fools joke. i.e he was disapppointed that the april fools joke was just a game and not some hyperexaggerated gag

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to each their own i guess

sick pebble
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Frankly I won’t defend his reasoning for not liking tmosth. I just want to argue that he isn’t a bad reviewer overall. Again, that video was prefaced with an explanation that it was written in basically a day to meet a deadline.

haughty loom
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I mean, he isn't a bad reviewer

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he just has certain opinions on things that I can't say I agree with

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sonic is one of them

sick pebble
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Yahtzee isn’t entirely wrong in the argument but his reasoning is shallow, IMO.

haughty loom
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I'd say he is entirely wrong, but the reason he thinks as he does is due to his perspective on the franchise

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yahtzee has pretty much made it clear that he has no investment in any of the characters. He does not care about them

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it's only natural then that it would seem odd that the cartoon animals are having this serious story

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but for anyone who's a fan, they're not just cartoon animals

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they're characters

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They just happen to look cartoonish

sick pebble
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I mean, this is true. But that argument begs the question: if nostalgia is ultimately what makes a story work, does the story work? I don’t know if I’m treading into similar territory of people being mad at KH3 for being a sequel, but sonic games aren’t billed as such, so…

haughty loom
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I didn't say nostalgia

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I said investment

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there is a difference

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I don't mean that the people are fans over a long period of time

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I mean that the people care about the characters as individuals

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they're invested in what they do

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It's like how a lot of well appraised cartoons start off a bit goofy, but get more serious in later seasons

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to an outsider it may not make sense that this cartoon show is taking things so seriously

sick pebble
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Ah, I get it.

haughty loom
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but for those who care about the characters, it makes sense to them and it's something they want to see

sick pebble
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Then modern sonic games aren’t for all audiences, but specifically for people who grew up with, say, adventure?

haughty loom
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I wouldn't even say it's like that necessarily

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I'd say that as long as the characters resonate with you in some way, you'll likely enjoy the more story based content

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I think the sonic movies did a lot of work towards winning people over on that front

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prime as well though likely to a lesser degree

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obviously, the longer your history, the more you'll care

sick pebble
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In general I’m… a bit adverse to investment, conceptually. Mostly due to diving way too hard into certain works earlier, though. Trying to strip that away.

haughty loom
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in that same way, I'd say that TMOSTH actually works towards getting you invested in teh characters with a light hearted low stakes story

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You don't really need any history of the series to play the game and you spend a lot of time with these characters who are well written

sick pebble
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Personally I think TMOSTH did a fair bit to get me re-invested, yeah.

haughty loom
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The characters are written in such a way that they are each endearing in their own way

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for someone who can't get past the cartoony look, this might be offputting

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but for anyone else who gives it a chance, they'll likely understand why it was made the way it was by the end

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That's the main reason why I think yahtzee is wrong

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not because he can't have his own opinion

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but mainly because I don't think it's correct to say that a property can't take itself seriously or have meaningful stories just because it looks a certain way

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That's stifling to storytelling as a whole imo

sick pebble
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I think he’s agree with you on that, actually. I mean, he liked undertale.

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That is a very comedic game with cartoon characters and it makes serious moments really work

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I’ll say again, I think the real issue is that some of these characters, sonic specifically, are just… flat.

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Sonic is uh. Go fast. Never give up. Not much else.

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Like a shonen protagonist. And shonens can get serious, but partly because they de-emphasize the protagonist, which is impossible when the protagonist is glued to the player.

haughty loom
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I don't know if I agree with that completely

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while sonic is indeed go fast and never give up, there's more to him than that

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there's the confidence, the snark, the brashness, the heroism

sick pebble
#

I mean, yeah, I was exaggerating the problem a bit.

haughty loom
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there's a lot more going on with his character even if he doesn't necessarily go through a character arc

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sonic is more about how his actions and attitude affect others as opposed to him going on a journey and changing himself

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and I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with that

sick pebble
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Now that I think about it, sonic being this unmoving anchor actually makes sense, since he’s, uh, the player? In less serious settings especially a static player character is fine because the player is that character in some sense.

haughty loom
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i mean i guess, but even outside of the games it works very well

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you see it a lot in the comics

sick pebble
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I guess I’m just not sold on it.

haughty loom
#

that's fair

still hare
# sick pebble Like a shonen protagonist. And shonens can get serious, but partly because they ...

I feel this kinda downplays a lot of the shonen protagonist archetype. Even though they can be simple minded, the stories around those protagonists can give a lot of maturity in their themes and setpieces.

Even someone as simple minded as Luffy in One Piece has a lot of depth to help the readers feel invested. When he gives his hat to Nami in Aarlong Park, how he behaves around Chopper when they meet, his fight with Ussop at Enies Lobby, and many, many more.

sick pebble
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Probably. I’m don’t watch much anime, so it seemed a logical comparison.

still hare
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It is a comparison that only works on the surface. Most shonen protagonist have a lot of depth with their stories and their world. They may act of a certain way that encapsulates them as simple minded, or idiots even in some cases but they have more to them and I don't think Sonic should lose that shonen protagonist style just to fit the 'jaja funny hedgehog' description some people want to give to him

sick pebble
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The depth isn’t always immediately obvious in either case. That’s probably what threw me off…

still hare
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It varies from each media. For example, of the big three, Naruto and Ichigo are the ones who show their depth faster compared to Luffy

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(Not that it takes too long for the three. Naruto shows both his usual mischeavous personality and his sad side from the getgo, Ichigo takes a bit but shows his modus operandi as he gets used to his new life as a substitute shinigami,and Luffy shows some of it once he faces an antagonist during any of the arc of East Blue)

gilded field
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Also, modern shonen trends I believe are pointing towards more complex protagonists

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Yuji and Denji are the obvious examples

haughty loom
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neither of those characters are particularly complex

gilded field
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Both of them are fully fleshed-out individuals with consistent goals, hobbies, weaknesses, contradictions, and life philosophies.

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Among shonen protags, they are very well-written characters regardless of if one likes their respective series or not.

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I'm not saying simple characters can't be fantastic, I just don't think Yuji and Denji fit that label, they have plenty of nuance.

haughty loom
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keep in mind, I didn't say they were bad characters

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I just said they're not complex

gilded field
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I know what you meant, I just disagree

haughty loom
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a character having goals, hobbies, weaknesses and an outlook on life doesn't make them a complex character imo

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mainly because how would you even have a character without those

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even luffy and goku have those

still hare
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I mean, those by themselves don't inherently make them complex but how they are worked around is what makes them complex in my opinion

haughty loom
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and that's my point with yuji and denji. While they are well written, those aspects aren't really dealt with in a complex fashion

still hare
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Goku for example. His goal is to become strong. It may be a simple goal on paper but if you consider that he's a martial artist, you see he wants to improve in any area he can and see the limits he can reach, causing a certain paradox on a goal that, in essence, is never ending or doesn't have a clear way to reach to said goal. .

haughty loom
#

except the series never touches on the paradox aspect

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it's just goku wanting to be stronger

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compare him to someone like saitama who became the strongest but now is in this existential crisis of what he's supposed to do now that he's unbeatable and his struggle to find a challenge

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this is something that is actually adressed in the series

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When I say simple character I don't mean that you can't find someway to brea things down and make things more nuanced than they're presented

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you can do that for every character in existence

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I'm more refering to how they are presented in the media itself

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characters like luffy and goku are presented as simple characters with very basic motivations

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sure you can read deeper and get more and the observations you make wouldn't even necessarily be wrong

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but the series isn't interested in exploring that since that's not the point of those characters

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if you understand my meaning

still hare
#

Hm except, at least in my opinion, it does.

More particularily the Granolah Arc has some of that thing where Goku wants to become stronger yet doesn't find a proper way of how to grow now that he mastered Ultra Instinct. (The first page is manga #68, at the beginning of Granolah arc). This is brought up again in #83 where he asks Whis about it.

This in Super, for example.

Or in Z, before the Cell games, Goku and Gohan both trained to find a way to become stronger with the Super Saiyan but they do understand that training once more in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber would not give different results than what they could get the first time. Even Future Trunks, who arguably is one of the smartest characters, did not understand that what Goku and Gohan did is better than the 'half states' that Vegeta and him worked on, as they can release bigger charges of power and not suffer the effects of tiredom as hard during a combat.

(Funny like: Master Karin also asks if Goku will ever get satisfied with his powers. He doesn't answer as he wanted to get his point of view on if he could beat Cell with his power)

And like that, there are much more examples that I cannot remember at the moment. Not saying that Goku is the most complex character of all media, that is simply not the case, but he has a certain complexity within his mindset as a fighter that allows him to get better results within his trainings, but also he struggles with other aspects of his mentality, be the Ultra Instinct the epitome of his struggle as his nature as Saiyan makes it much harder for him to find a way to properly control the technique.

And I can think on Luffy too but that's another can of worms lol

gilded field
hard bough
still hare
dull turret
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"he has nice moments"

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and like... okay ? ig ?

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But ngl... That ain't goku

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goku's adventures ended 30 years ago

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that's the santiago of dragon ball

still hare
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At least I find him nice there compared to the anime

fallen elm
#

Super Goku's weird cuz they made the conscious effort to regress his character growth from the original manga

still hare
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Probably Toriyama forgot to how to do Goku after 30 years since the manga ended

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(wouldn't be surprising considering he can forget things a lot, like the super saiyan 3 being a thing)

dull turret
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and say it's stupid

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San Goku

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SAN FUCKING GOKU

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that's in the last chapter btw

still hare
dull turret
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Yeah so basically what you mean is that in the movie that made more than 120 M at the box office he's a dumbass, got it.

still hare
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well yeah. In the manga, he has other dialogue. There is not much I can say about that in the movie

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I'll say an expression in Spanish

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No puedo cubrir el sol con un dedo

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there

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(I don't know if there is an English equivalent of that phrase)

sick pebble
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Jeez what argument did I start

still hare
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I think we can move on past that and just return to hedgehog died game

prisma garnet
#

this game has great dialogue and character interaction.

wispy dune
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what else is there to say about this game now

ancient vale
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uhhhhhh ummmmm...kity

sick yacht
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It was a great game but it was relatively short

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Hoping that they eventually continue on it

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🙏

grizzled yoke
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I'd like to say that the background art is very charming, along with all the little item images

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and yes, I want a sequel to happen or just another take at a VN

rough egret
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1 or 2 of these lil anthological games per year would be rad

grizzled yoke
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absolutely

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I'm curious what kinda settings any other game like this would have

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Escape Room or a Chaotix mystery seem obvious, though what else kinda story could you make for a Sonic VN

gilded field
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Maybe like the Sonic Channel stories

wispy dune
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would be cool if they adapted isekai ogiri and whatnot

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or have sonic channel write a story premise

turbid heart
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guys i think he died

wispy dune
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i apologise for reopening the thread

sick yacht
#

??

lofty ice
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Development definitely went smoothly

pure lantern
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LMFAO

grizzled yoke
#

I just hear gordon ramsay going off reading these

daring mist
#

I think this might be name censorship list

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See if it has Among Us in there

modern mulch
daring mist
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Oh

wispy dune
#

Every year, companies use April Fool's Day as an excuse to pull pranks on their social media, usually in the form of a fake product or announcement. This year, Sega took it a step further than most, releasing a real, playable game based on the idea that Sonic, their beloved mascot, had been murdered. While we were at Sega learning about Sonic Su...

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ancient vale
wispy dune
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In celebration of this video featuring the awesome @KatieChrz, here's a special TMOSTH Super Sonic and Super Barry! #SonicTheHedgehog #tmosth #sega

↘️ Quoting Game Informer (@gameinformer)

To learn the story behind The Murder Of Sonic The Hedgehog, we sat down with Sega's social media manager Katie Chrzanowski, who explained how the mascot-mu...

gilded field
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THE BOW

sick yacht
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tjewiotjr

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sonic is so HANDSOME

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(and barry)

gilded field
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But man I thought that was a turtleneck not a scarf

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My drawings were wrong

dull turret
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(wdym i'm looking too much into this ? nah...)

gilded field
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Hasn't that always been the case though?
Most people just can't enter the golden form

pseudo canyon
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or did i miss something..

gilded field
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It's not

dull turret
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it doesn't disrupt anything basically, but it's not officaly canon

gilded field
ancient vale
#

Team fortress 2 eviction noti-

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HOLY SHIT TMOSTH IS JUST A DIAMOND IS UNBR-

prisma garnet
#

Do you guys think Barry could be a fan of selfies

still hare
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Probably, I don't see why he would not be

sick yacht
#

Aybe

still hare
#

The Artist of the game talks about the intent of Sage's shirt and an easter egg to IDW's eggperial city @amber maple

amber maple
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Yeah! I know about these things :3

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All of the things here from Deegee’s tumblr mentioned about TMoStH, he confirmed it with me himself

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We talked in a VC a couple or so weeks ago

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A lot of what’s said here was said to me

still hare
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lucky you

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also way ahead of me

amber maple
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So awesome he’s putting it out there :]

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but yeah! Sage made the “Lets Go Dad” shirts!

still hare
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Whelp, if TMOSTH turns to be canon by some fate thing, I guess it would be before Urban warfare

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But it's cool to have the detail nonetheless

amber maple
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technically TMoStH is after Frontiers, and until IDW Sonic moves on to do post-Frontiers stories (which they will since Frontiers is going to influence IDW in the future), everything happening right now in IDW is before Frontiers