Wargame / Warno

[gritty sail]

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@turbid owl @azure ferry @mossy echo @jovial ruin

[turbid owl]

this is who @gritty sail aspires to be

Operation Paperclip, colorized

[drifting crag]

💀

[gritty sail]

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@strange steeple @worn dove @opal vale @bold idol @drifting crag @turbid owl

@ancient glade

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[gleaming girder]

I’m never wasting my time with a game longer than 40 minutes again.

Over 40 mins is FAR too long. Fuck that!

Literally fuck that worthless shit

[turbid owl]

@gleaming girder If you think I wasn't putting units on the frontline:

I was trying to lock out right flank all game not left

IDK what you think I was doing left but it was support not active play

I'm not going to suicide a Cobra to make you feel better because I can't watch it for when it wanders into the strela wall

[gleaming girder]

I understand, I was more frustrated by the situation and read the room/situation wrong. By the time I got mad, I had the only units left on that flank and the game should've ended by that point and I had to fuck off for irl stuff

[turbid owl]

I did what I could for you while trying to force the other end

[gleaming girder]

You're fina Katti, neither you (nor the rest of our teammates really) are actually to blame. By the time we wasted our irl lives for more than 1s past 40 minutes, I was done with Bartok's whack ass econ advantage at that point

[turbid owl]

11th Cav is not a play the map deck, you play hard on a fight or you die on all fronts because ur inf tab is pitiful and your recon isn't self sufficient

Basically just ramming against the KDA wall all game

I pushed them out eventually it just took a while and a few heimatschutzen

@gleaming girder also for the record you said you were fine for most of the match

[gleaming girder]

I for the most part was. Again, totally owning that the misguided frustration 🙂

[turbid owl]

ok, just making sure

I could have given you more with a less 1 trick division too

But I played 11th for balance/the handicap

[hearty oxide]

so I did the tutorials.. loaded up skirmish on very easy.. and thought I was doing ok until the AI started flanking me from all directions and killed my tanks and everything :3 Is this the expected experience or do I just suck (or both)

[delicate igloo]

Just keep smacking ur head against the AI and think about the game like rock paper scissors, thats how i got better

[warm igloo]

WARNO - Nemesis #1 - Air Assault DLC has released FYI

[ancient glade]

Huh?

[warm igloo]

Its the new DLC that's added more divisions etc

[opal vale]

I knew it wad pretty soon

[warm igloo]

The DAP is going to be fun!

[ancient glade]

if im gonna buy all the dlc should i just buy the pass thingy?

[drifting crag]

wah

[warm igloo]

potentially the right thing to do, but this DLC was quite cheap... though it does only contain 2 new divisions

[ancient glade]

I’ll be on warno later today

Doing some Canada Day celebrations

[ancient glade]

Someone ping me when a group is getting assembled

[reef brook]

They should have not given me the 101st

[turbid owl]

@ancient glade not sure anyone pinged u

but ppl are playing

[ancient glade]

copy that be there soon

[turbid owl]

Triple Strike, 10v10s remain dumb

I look away for like

1 min

and all my inf far left just evaporates

the Rys is busted

[ancient glade]

Spy burnt down my city but I still hold

@reef brook

[fervent steeple]

1 more for 3vs3 (Stalker crashed)

@dawn dome

[dawn dome]

i cant join that VC

[gritty sail]

https://www.patreon.com/opsgamingclub ❤️

Or put in a volunteer staff application! #readme message

[dawn dome]

huh, im alright

[dawn dome]

@jovial ruin nothing in Armory indicated any change for the Apaches, lemme check Waryes

https://war-yes.com/unit/Descriptor_Unit_AH64_Apache_US

[turbid owl]

People continue to pick armor divs on Rocks Assault and continue to pay the price

@jovial ruin

[drifting crag]

😔

rip to us

[dawn dome]

@jovial ruin i wish to join the warno

[gritty sail]

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<@&1069456861285331055>

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[gritty sail]

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<@&1069456861285331055>

[gritty sail]

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[reef brook]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-the-trumpet-eric-cartman-south-park-s25e1-south-park-s25-gif-24731768

[brazen goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/oi-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-hey-gif-26043536

<@&1069456861285331055>

[reef brook]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-better-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-better-gif-25853880

[brazen goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-milkman-milkman-psychonauts-milk-delicious-gif-15360002

[gritty sail]

On my way, but gotta setup my desk to share with my wife so we can both have flat surface to game, so i can't start for like 5+ mins.

[hearty oxide]

So when can I join you peeps? Is there any level required to play along?

or is like a 4v3 with a noob considered imbalanced?

[gritty sail]

Get in here! Today's ops warno experience is more much welcoming and less sweaty then in the past. The new rules are friendly non-sweat unless otherwise stated.

[gritty sail]

<@&1069456861285331055> looking for an 8th

@brazen goblet boo!

[drifting crag]

woah

my number is 7 tho

[gleaming girder]

Shout if y'all run another? Don't know what my avail will be over the course of the night, but I'd love to give it a try

[gritty sail]

Like a fucking chad, sitting on the bridge.

[drifting crag]

@turbid owl

[turbid owl]

Executed

[drifting crag]

wah, they eat well

[jovial ruin]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3282150456

[dawn dome]

ooog

ooh*

do yall need another Warno-er?

[jovial ruin]

YES

[dawn dome]

welp

ive joined catbeards game now

[dawn dome]

if you werent just sitting in locked VC i would have joined yall

[gritty sail]

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[ancient glade]

I’ll be on tonight if we wanna get a game together @gritty sail

[gritty sail]

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@vernal ivy

@final magnet

Need an 8th

@rich agate you aren't in the vc with us, get in 'er

[rich agate]

im hur

[ancient glade]

Will anyone be playing later tonight?

[devout trout]

Yessir tonight we ride

[gleaming girder]

But why?

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-bodies-hit-the-floor-whispering-gif-14550592

[jovial ruin]

now with the Pact tank prices fixed!

[ancient glade]

<@&1069456861285331055>

the time has come

[gritty sail]

we ride

[jovial ruin]

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[drifting crag]

wah

[turbid owl]

Sigh

[turbid owl]

I would like to point out the above

they must have had their minecraft arty beds put up next to each other

so romantic

[drifting crag]

skill issue lol

its his only kill

[turbid owl]

<@&1069456861285331055> Any fellas? I am trying a challenge where I unbind my WASD keys

and would like ppl to carry me

[brazen goblet]

that souds like pain, why would you do this hahahaha

[turbid owl]

to build new muscle memory

especially when ppl ask me to stream 10v10s using WASD is extremely dififcult

cus my frames drop so bad I cant actualyly zoom across the map

[brazen goblet]

so are you just gone be stuck with the view you "start/spawn/ with? or can you click the map

[turbid owl]

the point is to click the map more

Ive been kidnapped by morgan

[azure ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-cat-dragged-gif-1263419341748157821

[hearty oxide]

The practice with you all yesterday (and watching a bunch of videos) is paying off. My first solo win vs easy AI at normal speed

[rich agate]

keep upping the AI now

[drifting crag]

wah, gepard my beloved

[drifting crag]

@turbid owl @jagged lagoon

genius

truly a move

[jagged lagoon]

big brain

[turbid owl]

He is the best boy

[drifting crag]

fr, I was legally blind

[gritty sail]

@elder nymph

@turbid owl explain

[turbid owl]

Idk

MNAPADS blow themselves up all the time in this game

I can imagine a stray missile flying into your very tactical Chinook blob

[drifting crag]

amazing, truly an achievement

[hearty oxide]

It's infrared. Easy to lose target 🤷‍♂️

But that many times? 😅

[gritty sail]

Oh they all died together in one go, but it was really sad that 2x ASF swooped in and took them all out, now it makes sense how they did it in one pass.

[gleaming girder]

lol your Stinger almost certainly targeted and hit the ASF as it was passing through your helis

[gritty sail]

@elder nymph good stuff right lol

[jagged lagoon]

I am currently still cooking for meal prep

@warm igloo

Idk which one is talking I’m on mobile

@turbid owl which is the one that’s talking rn

[turbid owl]

it's Peter

[jagged lagoon]

@warm igloo

[jagged lagoon]

Still cooking

[turbid owl]

I like to imagine

if I didn't get my first Streagle shot down

we woulda won

[gritty sail]

Great job in that game @turbid owl

[turbid owl]

@gritty sail @brazen goblet @elder nymph @others I don’t wanna ping everyone

Would you like me to make a guide for Ops folks how to do things in a Eugen game?

Like tactics or something

And if so on what subject? How to do an attack?

What

Ok

Well

I see

Well I can try and simplify it

I would point out

Unit comps that work for me

Do not necessarily

Work for others

That’s just map knowledge

And match up knowledge

Fun fact in that twin cities game I blind predicted where everyone would go

Perfectly

So you want me to explain arty?

I am aware

So basics of unit controls

How to hotkey and stuff

I figured we have plenty of people who can teach that though

I wanted to explain how to attack

I suppose

Should they be Google docs or something

I’ll try and make something tmw then

[hearty oxide]

Please include the secret Eugen cheat codes for win

[gleaming girder]

Let me walk their left and the guy was building a blob when he rage quit.

[hearty oxide]

Probably insignificant to most of you, but just defeated easy AI. Next on the list - medium 😄 Maybe tomorrow

oddly enough most of my kills came from tanks (and TOWs). Maybe I might play armored cavalry after all

Also perhaps it was tanks because when I notice I have too many points I roll out a few tanks (but it was also quite open area that was fought for)

[hearty oxide]

also holy crap did your bomber live

[pine spear]

Nice ratio. I did the same thing - started on easy and then went to medium. Took many tries to beat medium lol. After that I moved onto the operations and now those are kicking my ass. Very good training for specific scenarios though

[gritty sail]

@reef brook @jovial ruin @turbid owl

@dawn dome @vernal ivy

@brazen goblet

[turbid owl]

My proudest kill @gritty sail

that was his only kill

all game

[gritty sail]

Hahahahah

@ancient glade be our 8th?

[drifting crag]

There is smth wrong...

I dont see blue on that list

[gritty sail]

https://youtu.be/2IEEqCLt-Tw?feature=shared

Saw this on the reddits.

[drifting crag]

so uh, had a game that is somehow super lag for me. but it doesnt matter anyway

[ancient glade]

Sorry I didn’t join, was busy harvesting spice for the spice tax

[hearty oxide]

Somehow the Medium was even better game >_>

I guess I am learning where to put my infantry and vics on the map I keep playing 😄

I was even mounting a side flank at the end moving in to challenge the point past the centre (or at least to secure the forest closer to it as a foothold before moving in)

Hero TOW

but also holy crap this was some heavy tank spam for enemy

I still barely don't use air tho

However, watching the replay I realized 2 things. 1- AI had 0 visibility/recon and 95% of the time they just saw incoming rockets but no units (occassionally they saw my supply truck or a tank rolling by for a moment). They were coming to a slaughter with rockets flying in from left and right And 2- at the end one of my supply trucks that was supplying 2 of my rocket infantries was out of supply, this would lead to break of that side very likely and I didn't notice. 10/10 good learning

But this video helped me to understand better where to put what units and that they can 'just hold' the line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MYEpMfwDJo I am aware it is not this simple vs players, but I was also holding back with my initial pushes before and ended up having to push into already settled in enemy so now I try to establish my initial defensive posture and take it from there

[pine spear]

ooo I've gotta check out these videos. I just watched one of his videos this week to figure out how to beat one of the operations. I kept losing probably 5 times on rookie, and in his video he said he was trying it for the first time, played on the hardest mode, and beat the shit out of the AI 🙂

[ancient glade]

We should do steel division 2 sometime

I’ve never really played a multiplayer game

[jovial ruin]

we absolutely should

[gritty sail]

What price point should I pick it up at?

[ancient glade]

Just the default price, unless you want all the dlc

but the base game has a lot of nazi and ussr divisions

[jovial ruin]

the current one

or well

no not anymore LOL

[opal vale]

If we do it in house it will probably be without many of the DLCs. If we play against randoms, all the rabdoms are using the dlc divisions.

[jovial ruin]

the steam sale price was GOATed

[jovial ruin]

without ANY DLC

I will stand firm on the idea that the game becomes progressively more cringe the deeper you get into the DLCs

[ancient glade]

i have most of the dlcs...

[opal vale]

True. Or at least division restrictions for dlcs.

[ancient glade]

i wanna fight the soviets with my paris defense div

[jovial ruin]

and I own all of them, but I stand on principle that the best MP games are base game only lol

the base game divs were balanced super well against one another

and the DLC all added various brands of power creep

RADIO MORTARS being the prime example

[ancient glade]

But i wanna deploy the SS

[opal vale]

I'll use most of the German ones. Just there are panthers in the base ones. I haven't played SD2 in a long while. I hate tigers in that game.

[ancient glade]

all americans hate tigers because their tanks are weak

im gonna bring the based south africans

[warm igloo]

1 Abrams got 2400 pts worth of kills for me in 1 game

[opal vale]

Hahaha fucking Pete just bullying people

And his name is "Tate" that's even more of a meme 🤣🤣

[jovial ruin]

then play one of the base game SS divisions lol

[opal vale]

There are SS divisions in base game

[ancient glade]

at this point i dont even remember which divs are from the base game

[gleaming girder]

Same

[drifting crag]

any warnoer tonight?

[jovial ruin]

I do

also it's on the wiki

https://steeldivision.fandom.com/wiki/Steel_Division_2_divisions#Allied

Those are the base allied divs

These are the base axis
https://steeldivision.fandom.com/wiki/Steel_Division_2_divisions#Axis

[gleaming girder]

I wouldn’t mind SD2, can’t exactly right now, but I’m all up to date on DLC and haven’t had the chance to really test the Brazil deck

[ancient glade]

thanks

[jovial ruin]

damn I stand corrected, there are no SS divisions in SD2 Base

[ancient glade]

thats what i thought

[jovial ruin]

That being said I think death on the vistula and fate of finland DLC divisions are both like

fine

not game ruining

and the vistula divisions include 2 ss divisions for axis

[ancient glade]

sad that i cant use my luftwaffe or kriegsmarine divs

but ill live

[jovial ruin]

@gritty sail The current G2A price for SD2 is a solid deal, the game is worth about $20 at this point and they have it for 17

[ancient glade]

nemesis dlc divs usable?

maybe burning baltics?

[jovial ruin]

nemisis DLCs are all cringe

burning baltics also cringe

includes SS gross cringe division

[ancient glade]

i like to play the bad funny divs

[jovial ruin]

<@&1069456861285331055> SD2 starting in like ~30 minutes (Spy and Bartok need to reinstall)

'Pure' base game divisons

[jovial ruin]

Relatively benign DLCs:

[ancient glade]

almost done installing

[drifting crag]

is that, the overpowered paratroopers?

[elder nymph]

OTY3MjMxMzc3NTA2MzM1Mjcy

[drifting crag]

@jagged lagoon eating his prey

[jagged lagoon]

I am they/them and enjoy changing Soviet pronouns to was/were

[ancient glade]

id be down to try some more SD2 once i have some divs made

[hearty oxide]

Do you get DLCs to drive your troops in a bus? 🤔

[gleaming girder]

Berlin Cmd city bus transports when?

[drifting crag]

any <@&1069456861285331055> er around?

[ancient glade]

Steel Division then warno tonight?

Anyone?

[turbid owl]

I forgot to take a picture

Can someone take a pic

My glorious people's republic

The new Switzerland btw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071938529988460684/1262659464482394122/image.png?ex=669766c3&is=66961543&hm=de31e754a69c3f5581f677e8bf2c7bc115a19bd481728a8264c973088882e6d4&

[ancient glade]

Wrong chat

[hearty oxide]

It's the HoI4 mod for Steel Division @ancient glade

[drifting crag]

@turbid owl

[turbid owl]

confirmed communis

[drifting crag]

dude

this happens all the time

I'm starting to think

that this is all intentional

[drifting crag]

@jovial ruin

it was his fault to bunch them up together

[drifting crag]

damn, someone give Bryant a promotion and bonuses

[turbid owl]

And ST tells me the SPG-9 is fine and even underpowered

[turbid owl]

for the record

that game was not skill

that was just massive

massive

skill issue

[turbid owl]

even stevens

Also this is the most kills I think a Spetsgruppe has ever gotten

[drifting crag]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bully-why-do-you-bully-me-gif-14134661

[turbid owl]

auto I didnt even post a kill with you in it

[drifting crag]

I surrender

[turbid owl]

Couldn't handle the clam chowder style

So a thought, maybe the A-10 AT is slightly less shit (when not spammed) when you turn off the missile and manually shotgun it, since tbh the gun is really good so right clicking is quite good

BTW my favorite skill indicator IMO is loss screen where nothing gets more than 1 kill

Always happy when I get one of these

[rich agate]

my life

[turbid owl]

I didnt see that kill happen

must have been rearming

[drifting crag]

cool

[drifting crag]

@obsidian pier @reef brook I'm sorry

so uh

someone did finds those mules

like see it

[drifting crag]

they shall not pass

@turbid owl I almost made it

[turbid owl]

yeah

you show that AI who's boss

I found the one competent player on their team

we had some nasty fights

[drifting crag]

if only that bv didnt kill my dragoon

[drifting crag]

I saw him push hard

[turbid owl]

yeah

Butter Lord the rando definitely saved teh game

he fought hard

[turbid owl]

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[gritty sail]

NDI0NDIxODAzMTk1MzE4MTIyNA==

<@&1069456861285331055> Gondor Calls for Aid

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-beacons-lit-gondor-aid-gif-14737387

[worn dove]

And Rohan will answer!

[ancient glade]

I will be on later tonight

[gleaming girder]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2804680107

[ancient glade]

@turbid owl any idea if we will ever get any Luftwaffen field divisions?

[turbid owl]

No clue

[gritty sail]

<@&1069456861285331055> Warno after AAR in https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/1071659600752955474 and https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/1071938529988460684.

[ancient glade]

ping me when aar is done please

[gritty sail]

@ancient glade your time has come

[gleaming girder]

If y'all are set to play soon, don't wait up on account of me. Figure I'd wrap up housewife duties while on the clock instead. Back in 20-30

Also, role has been flipped.. it is now <@&1069456861285331055>

[gentle furnace]

cause you gotta save the best for last

[gleaming girder]

Would even go so far as to suggest we remove the /Red Dragon portion altogether or replace it with /SD2 to accurately reflect current trends
Or slim down even further to just @ Eugen Game

[shut garnet]

can someone please take away my red dragon role

[opal vale]

You should be able to do it yourself cause it's a self assigned role.

[gritty sail]

Done

[shut garnet]

im lazy

[gritty sail]

cries in burrito

[ancient glade]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-get-to-work-gif-21630516

[drifting crag]

llmao

I saw that happen lol

[gritty sail]

@jovial ruin @turbid owl @drifting crag

[gleaming girder]

???

[turbid owl]

The Javelin is worse, lower range and 4 HE makes Hinds a bad time

The LML has the benefit of 3 shots per reload though so in theory you could 1 “mag” a Hind

Also I believe they added range scaling at some point to some guided missiles idk if MANPADS are included in that

[opal vale]

yeah stingers work better with aircraft it seems because the LML's will end up losing line of sight faster sometimes. I guess, in a way, you just have to be smart on where the LMLs are

[turbid owl]

Guys look @elder nymph got top of the team

he's officially the best in the discord

[gritty sail]

37.54:1

[delicate igloo]

KDR reduce to 3.754:1 due to Illaoi profile pic

-10 points for Gryffindor

[ancient glade]

Will warno be going on tonight?

[ancient glade]

ping me if a game gets started up today

[gleaming girder]

What are the chances update drops tomorrow?

[supple sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

update? where?

[gleaming girder]

*DLC - Not enough Non-Soviet Warsaw Pact in Warno for my taste. Relying on that new div to inspire me to want to play RedFor more.

[ancient glade]

I really hope so, the warsaw pact division looks right up my ally

[turbid owl]

0

[ancient glade]

Im around for warno if anyone else is

[gritty sail]

I'm down after AAR and after I run thru something

[ancient glade]

ill be back in 15-20 mins

[mossy echo]

ill run a game if yall dont mind carrying a noob

[ancient glade]

yeah you are good to join

[gleaming girder]

lmaoo Bundeswehr Terminators return?

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1611600/view/4365761126547967822?l=english

[drifting crag]

whens the update?

[ancient glade]

Anyone down for warno tonight? I’m gonna be away this weekend so I want to get some playtime in

[warm igloo]

Almost as good as a score as Katti

[ancient glade]

I’m not a fan of this option, I hope the other ones have some more interesting ones

[gleaming girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-amazing-world-of-gumball-gif-24277359

But G11!

[ancient glade]

The pact division looks like a pile of garbage

[gleaming girder]

You take that back! The BRDM-1 is adorable!

[fervent steeple]

Playing Warno now but cant use mic.

[ancient glade]

ill be home in a bit ill hop on then

[obsidian pier]

warno?

@ancient glade @rich agate @opal vale

[ancient glade]

ill be on after supper

[rich agate]

https://tenor.com/view/sonar-campana-mortal-glitch-campana-alarma-alerta-gif-20333590

<@&1069456861285331055>

[shut garnet]

wargame new nation pack?

wasnt on my 2024 bingo card

[ancient glade]

Why is wargame dead dragon getting an update

[opal vale]

Months. I think they said there will be 3 rounds of voting oraybe just one and then a couple months later it would be released.

[gleaming girder]

OH MY GOD ITALY at long last!

Otomagic! Centauro!

[gleaming girder]

My guess is because they made/bought some Italian stuff for Warno. Perhaps a new level of competence from Eugene

[supple sonnet]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/251060/view/4364635226643091531?l=english

for anyone who hasn't seen, there's the link. my jaw actually dropped when i read it lmao

[ancient glade]

Warno irl?

[gritty sail]

Accidental cinematic victory screen

[dawn dome]

TBH, if it didn’t have the attack marker, I could see this as a loading screen

[ancient glade]

Guess the missile

[hearty oxide]

Is it IR? 🤔

I should play DCS sometime again

Mm.. not IR

[gritty sail]

@compact wadi

Your people call to you.

[hearty oxide]

I thought amraam would be too mainstream

[gleaming girder]

Positioned next to an F-105, bet it’s a anti-rad missile. og wild weasel

No wait.. it’s big af, it’s the opposite

[azure ferry]

SA-2B

[gritty sail]

@supple sonnet you gotta be faster next time lol

[azure ferry]

Think Gary Powers

[ancient glade]

Yeah it’s a big SAM

[gritty sail]

Are you proud of me yet @turbid owl ?

[ancient glade]

Cool little 1980’s defence plan in the museum

[ancient glade]

New divisions this Thursday?

[ancient glade]

Anyone warno or steel division today?

[gritty sail]

I'm busy all day until the Op. But I want to lol

[ancient glade]

Maybe after?

[ancient glade]

stalker casually stalking the chat

[gleaming girder]

random speculation, but what if it’s part of an excuse to update existing nations in RD too! see Warno KRUG, a long requested WGRD unit

[ancient glade]

ping me if warno

[gleaming girder]

Neat..
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1611600/announcements/detail/4365761126567531884

[ancient glade]

@turbid owl when 35th and other div getting added?

[opal vale]

The next nemesis dlc? Bruh they still have to release the 2.3 voting and then allow voting for probably 2 or 3 weeks before they even start work on it.

[ancient glade]

no the EA divisions

[opal vale]

Whenever they do it. I doubt they will announce it and it just will be patched in.

[gleaming girder]

Something to really consider I feel with these nemesis options, are the lore implications. Think about what fronts these might open for future expansions. Not only is 12.Pz cool, I’m running on a theory that’ll open up moreT-72 laden 2nd echelon div opportunities.

2.2 almost certainly gives justification for Blu Austria in Southag

[gritty sail]

<@&1069456861285331055> let's go

MTEyMTY1MjkxMjY5MzY1NzQ1MDQ=

@zealous mirage @wise cedar @mossy echo @rich agate

[ancient glade]

https://tenor.com/view/warno-get-on-warno-on-the-way-en-el-camino-gif-26524635

[wise cedar]

Ohhh, i dont have warno and this hotel wifi is theeee worst ive been on ff

[dreamy linden]

I have succumbed to the peer pressure (watching y'all play)

[warm igloo]

This guys game stats don't seem sus at all 🤣

[opal vale]

Probably not lol

[warm igloo]

So your saying its probably for a guy to have a 96% win ratio? With over 544 games played...

those odds are so astronomically low

[opal vale]

I mean I think if you cheese shit maybe in 1v1s the issue is most people aren't playing unranked 1v1s and in many cases when playing ranked, if you try to cheese things, you get fucking rolled over. So yeah. Probably a cheater.

[warm igloo]

My point exactly, most populated lobbies are the 10v10's and it's a roll of the dice if you win or loose based on your team...

We played a 4v4 against this guy & his mates and they all have really high win ratios, average was like 80% but this guy's profile was just wild

[opal vale]

If he only plays 4v4 with a good team then maybe. Remember, all those stats were wiped at the start of the 1.0 patch. I'm just not sure cause if you are that good, you are playing not just 4v4s.

[drifting crag]

probably seal clubing

[opal vale]

I dont think you could have under 20 losses with 500 games in total seal clubbing.

[drifting crag]

you can

you just never try it

[opal vale]

Yeah but 500 times? I mean why play the game lol

Its like playing on madden on the easiest difficulty and then patting yourself on the back for having 10 undefeated seasons with 10 superboels and wonder why you keep winning 🤣🤣

[drifting crag]

i mean, if that means you can hangout with your friends why not?

[warm igloo]

If he had a 100 or so losses, then I think it wouldn’t be as sus but having a 96% win ration with over 500 games is just insane

[opal vale]

Trying to find 4 friends that would participate in that without telling you that you are an idiot is rare lol. In European terms, it's like playing fifa as man city and wondering how you are beating everyone else who is fielding U21 teams lol

Like that shit isn't fun lol.

[warm igloo]

Either the man is cheating or as you said, has no life and only plays against low levels on his terms… the former seems more legit tho

[opal vale]

Yeah but think about how much time that is. 500 matches, let's say even 10 minutes a match, that's 5000 minutes. That's 83 hours. This man has been clubbing seals for nearly 3 and a half days? Lol. Idk about that

[gleaming girder]

Could also play a lot of bot battles in MP

[opal vale]

Sure but like 500 bot battles? Lol

@warm igloo did you beat him?

[fervent steeple]

You can make decks with just cvs in it for the AI , heli rush spawn and you win in a few min.

[ancient glade]

Steel division 2 this evening?

[gleaming girder]

Okay, I’m down! Warnow?

[zealous mirage]

I'd potentially be interested in some SD2/Warno tonight

no promises though

[compact wadi]

SA-2 or SA-3

[gritty sail]

@ancient glade @hearty oxide @azure ferry @gleaming girder

[drifting crag]

ACAV my beloved

[ancient glade]

SA-2 is correct

[compact wadi]

You can tell by the stupid little fake canards Russia puts on every missile for no reason

[azure ferry]

What are you pinging me for?

[gritty sail]

😘

[dreamy linden]

down to run some warno today

[zealous mirage]

waryes?

[gritty sail]

warmaybe

[gritty sail]

https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/624006144754712586

[rich agate]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-patrick-star-where-did-everybody-go-where-did-everybody-go-gif-26605152

[ancient glade]

waiting for content

[gleaming girder]

Yeah pretty much, seems like a little burnout management before the big day

I'm hoping the Nemesis turnaround is quick

[gleaming girder]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1611600/view/4365761760540660717?l=english

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[opal vale]

I'm not sure. Like 2 sounds meh, 3 sounds okay, 1 sounds unbalanced AF lol.

[ancient glade]

3 is the lesser evil in my eyes

so im going to be voting on it

[ancient glade]

And our EA pack additions, i want my 35th ID!

[ancient glade]

I demand Steel Division 2 today!

[dawn dome]

MTQwODUxMzczNzE2MTgxMTQwODg=

[celest vector]

currently installing steel div

[gritty sail]

this is not the ideal match up here

[drifting crag]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[delicate igloo]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-fire-flames-burning-gif-17220132

me when I see what the buratino did to the map

[rich agate]

I am a 100% dedicated KDA/nap killer now

[gritty sail]

@jovial ruin @turbid owl I'm practicing

[turbid owl]

you cant just send me this and not realize the only things you've posted are artillery

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-yep-ya-gif-24008978

[jovial ruin]

yeah but that deck is built around M1A1s and arty, @gritty sail I'm glad to see you're spamming the 270s (as you should be)

just need to get the tank micro down and learn how to use the rangers properly in the early game

and then the mech rifles mid-late game

Rangers (Dragon) also exist but as late game reinforcements

[warm igloo]

We playing some Warno then?

[gleaming girder]

Little later after work yeah, used up my lunch hour playing with Blackbeard
@ me if y'all assemble before I'm around.

[gritty sail]

https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/1071938529988460684

[gleaming girder]

Make sure y'all get your vote correct!

[ancient glade]

yup, locked in for 2.3!

[jovial ruin]

Kraut Space Magic or bust

[ancient glade]

ill pass, other then space guns its boring and unbalanced as shit

[gleaming girder]

If you're content starved right now, this mod at first glance seems alright
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3216549392

[dawn dome]

adds Eryx, based mod

very spicy

hmm

lol

[gleaming girder]

lol because 1 ammo? or lol because 105pts?

idk, before I saw the avail, I actually thought 11.PzGren, even with the protos might be balanced. Akin to the one SD2 div (20.PzGren) with the weird SPAAG options

Best in class one offs.. Marder 2 for example, twice as good as Chadley on paper, but you get 1 card of 2 and you have to take the most run of the mill infantry CV option

Dreaming if you think the Gepard Leo 2 is SEADable in Wargame/Warno terms. Thing will tank every anti-rad missile know to man, but you get fucking 1. Practically unkillable, but super limited as far as how useful it is and I mean, do you "waste" the activation point?

Pzh2k is the best M109 with the aimtime of the worst mortar, but you get 1.. just 1

Tell me that wouldn't be an amazing deck

Basically make it 2.PzGren, but instead of FsJ you get those super limited unicorns

[dawn dome]

11 HE lol

[gleaming girder]

tbf, did anyone predict Eugene would let the Krug slide?

[ancient glade]

wdym?

[gleaming girder]

Krug was a hard Wargame “no” for about as long as I can remember, was deemed beyond the game’s scale

[gleaming girder]

I've got 3-4hrs to kill and Warno to play, anyone else?

[warm igloo]

could be interested

[gleaming girder]

<@&1069456861285331055> Anyone care to play today?

In house?

[warm igloo]

<@&1069456861285331055> +1 for a 4v4 inhouse

[supple sonnet]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1611600/view/4272313336332044272?l=english

[ancient glade]

2.3 for the win!

[gleaming girder]

I’ve changed my tune.. Realizing 2.3 is simply the better value, requiring Eugen to do more work (more new models)

[ancient glade]

Right? We get a shit ton of new units and models + equipment!

And it’s not terribly unbalanced

[opal vale]

i've went with 3.1 cause of the new leopard varients and additional AT destroyers in the deck along with adding the T-54

[ancient glade]

T-54 is already in the KDA

[opal vale]

yeah but they would be adding about 3 or 4 different versions of it as well as a newer version of the leopard that has higher accuracy and further range

[gleaming girder]

What do you mean? Leo2a1 is worst Leo2 [expected to be in Warno] yet

And the Leo 1s are all supposed to bridge between 1A1 and 1A5

[opal vale]

i just like the german divisions so lol

[gleaming girder]

Me too mann, I want 12.Pz so bad! But idk 2.3 finally got to me

[gleaming girder]

Voting closes tonight! Get your damn votes in if you ain’t done it already!

[gritty sail]

https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/624006144754712586

<@&1069456861285331055>

[gleaming girder]

Yeah, and don’t forget to vote! Closes in like an hour I think!

Oh just kidding.. <t:1724317200:R>

[ancient glade]

how did 2.2 win

i saw no propaganda for it whatsoever

[gleaming girder]

Neat.. worst option won

[opal vale]

Told you it would happen lol.

[gleaming girder]

Patiently waiting for Blu Switzerland

[opal vale]

Now we get another French division that is worthless in tank meta the game is and then another VDV division that is in between the current two lol.

[gleaming girder]

And terrible lore, don’t forget terrible lore!

[ancient glade]

at least we are getting EA plus soon

[gritty sail]

@fervent steeple we lost by 2%. Your vote could have been the difference lol

[rich agate]

Voting is a scam

[ancient glade]

democracy doesnt work

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-padme-amidala-so-this-is-how-liberty-dies-with-thunderous-applause-natalie-portman-gif-21701032

[sour quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-star-wars-gif-26999135

[ancient glade]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-marxism-communism-intesifies-funny-gif-16697750

[dreamy linden]

Me when voting in a democratic system gives rise to a monolith

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/buggy-horse-and-buggy-big-bird-gif-13113768584249474150

[warm igloo]

These new 'free divisions' are quite lack luster... more like meme devisions than anything

[obsidian pier]

PACTs new mine clearer MLRS has a range of under 2k its pretty much useless

and a SAM w/ 30% base accuracy and 13 HE lmao

[gleaming girder]

I'll take 6x 30% chance 1-hit kills that outrange all SEAD any day of the week

[supple sonnet]

In real life, EOD systems were very effective against older missiles but nearly useless against more advanced ones; however, we don’t have the option to make this difference in-game. As such, we opted for the generic 10% “ECM” against all ATGMs of any kind.

kind of suprised that they can't differentiate newer missiles

[ancient glade]

its free content, stop complaining and say thank you

[supple sonnet]

nah i'll keep complaining

it's only applied to 2 vehicles currently so it's not a big deal imo

[gleaming girder]

To be fair, that's a classic Eugen move and historically it works. They basically applied more air casino elements to the ground war.

The 10% ECM is much less efective against a 55% base acc missile compared to a 40% one. They just need to rework ATGM acc across the board to further differentiate between older and newer systems.

Wait a minute.. Did they not mark a diff between MCLOS and SACLOS like in WG?

[gleaming girder]

So as far as I can tell, the Mule is the only Blufor vehicle that can fit into the CH/MH-47 currently.

Funny enough, there doesn't appear to be a limit on squad size for the Mule (the one you can spawn Stingers in)

If for whatever reason you need to get a ton of Green Beret in a Mule far away via heli.. you can

[gritty sail]

@gleaming girder @strange steeple @jovial ruin any word on the Italy DLC being good/bad? I'm down to do schedule a Wargame: Red Dragon event.

[gleaming girder]

Haven't sunk my teeth in yet but Italy seems chill. Curious more about the balance changes to existing content.

[strange steeple]

op recoiless rifle

the 90 version

and csr folgore

1400m and 18ap

just like mech rifle in warno wasnt enough.

Also rocket truck rework is funni

2450 m

pair it with supply

watch it stun lock everything.

[jovial ruin]

18 AP????? That is beyond cracked

Czechs jelly of that 1400m range 18 AP RR for an infantry squad

[drifting crag]

even nordic's airborne isnt armed with such devastating weapon

I wanna have one

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-outpost-the-outpost-series-the-outpost-tv-fantasy-tv-fantasy-gif-14631608

https://tenor.com/view/benedict-cumberbatch-endgame-doctor-strange-one-one-more-gif-16732373694936957526

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-not-just-the-men-but-the-women-and-children-too-not-just-the-men-women-and-children-too-gif-17266839

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-failed-fail-gif-22515996

[celest vector]

https://tenor.com/view/playboi-carti-ai-dance-2024-music-gif-10363351855146879786

[jovial ruin]

napalm MLRS is satan incarnate, from time to time it gets ya

fire damage in warno is still just

suuuuuper high

[strange steeple]

Dont blob

Dont blob everything take edge to kill

get blow by plane

[gritty sail]

had my first Warno crash in a long time. Sucks cause I had a really good A-tier game going.

[gritty sail]

@rich agate KDA player Oswald Mosley spotted

Don't worry, @turbid owl took out the trash

[turbid owl]

PSA

the game's balance is centered around tanks being viable in 1v1s

the more ppl the more viable the tanks

light divisions are useful in 5v5 but if you do basic math and they have more tanks than you as a team, then taking a division with literally no tanks is a bad idea

[opal vale]

let me guess, twin cities and you were in the city

[gleaming girder]

https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/1285991947504193659

[gritty sail]

@turbid owl

[turbid owl]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-gif-20036012

[gritty sail]

https://discord.com/channels/171035031203086338/1071938529988460684

[turbid owl]

There’s a keg

I can’t just leave

[ancient glade]

is there new content yet?

[gritty sail]

@bright wind

there is a whole mini-community here

[bright wind]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-26327776

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/sustained-excellent-point-gif-9626990

[turbid owl]

NG is very not good

I mean

I dont think I targeted the Grads

its pointless

Grads always fire too fast

this is my only grad loss

French tanks are great

you also get one of the better smoke mortars

to make em extra good

no they are not T-55s

they have 2275m

AMXs

French armored is a game of math

have more guns

win

at a close enough range, all tanks from T-55 to T-80U are a 2 shot to a high end gun

and French tanks have good guns

so an AMX-30 in a knifefight is a cheaper T-80U

I mean if you wanna go range

play HOTs

so

the worst tank fight to get in

is a fair tank fight

with France you never take fair fights

have more tanks for less money

or better positiuoning

or both

and you win

the main issue IMO

is on maps like airport

there's too much grass and open cover

so microing becomes a hassle

just dont fire

simple

use em when you want em

its not a competition to see who can waste supply the fastest

the point is

you dont need perfect arty micro

I mean look at my guns

I get way fewer kills when I play frontline

if you wanna know how to push that lane

there are 2 ways

you see where there's no objectives

ur job

is map control

so you are in effect

playing mid

you are not playing right side

right side must defend from a push on Hotel

Gouze they never even got close

this is the Hotel push

so in effect

ur playing mid

thats what Im saying

yes

you are playing mid

ur job is to gain map control over Hotel if they dont push Hotel

your job is to take mid

you defend Hotel, push Delta

[turbid owl]

yeah I know it was 119 vs Fra

you roll over everything in 119's deck

at that range

It's the same units as WG

flamethrowers are just OP

so the purpose of this conversation

is so you know what to do

[drifting crag]

I found it hard to push from the right side if playing armor

[bright wind]

me too lol

[drifting crag]

so left of delta is more viable since its half urban half open

[drifting crag]

orrrrrr

[turbid owl]

this is the fundamental push for that frontline

it's really really easy as FRA to stomp that

[drifting crag]

use 11 th cav to early push delta

its funny and it can happen

[turbid owl]

fyi

this is the recon deployment

more or less

you have to get there as our side

thats the replay yes

why

Im not nit picking

[drifting crag]

oh yeah, katti, i got a question abt the forest fighting

[turbid owl]

how to make flash best launcher in the game?

use 1 shot at a time

ST has finally realized KDA flame Grad is fucking stupid

so fire is gonna get nerfed soonish(?)

but until then yeah fire OP

and tbh it's hopefully just gonna be flame grad

[drifting crag]

can heli be used in forest fighting?

[turbid owl]

so E-Germ and French flamers will still W key and win

w/ armor yes

rockets aim faster than most AA

[drifting crag]

I dont usually go audio outside of squad

people here dont appreciate noises

oh, yes

[turbid owl]

Gazelles got nerfed hard after a phase of Canon spam

Canon spam fell out of meta like

10 years ago

[drifting crag]

noooo

[turbid owl]

The last Canon spam was a beta build yall never saw

[drifting crag]

cannon my beloved

[turbid owl]

The Gazelle K car that SA gets

used to be like

10 pts or something stupid like that

at 30 per card

[drifting crag]

if only we can reenact rhodesian bush war or smth

[turbid owl]

so folks pointed out that it was essentially an unkillable helo rush for basically nothing

it never saw live

have 50 cals ignore canon

basically

pintle 50s were really strong in RD

no

you probably hit never transports or something

or hold fire?

idk

if it was a recon milan

it probably ran out of ammo

they sneeze at 2 things and run out of missiles

my fav is the P4 Milan

theres like 6 missiles in the back

and it only gets 4

half the missiles back there are for show

its silly to me

at least you dont have to reload the uh

missile launcher after every shot

that was miserable

I just want coax to be right click

thats all I want

the T-90 is fuckin unusable to me

the coax is like at the bottom of the list

[drifting crag]

lol

[turbid owl]

I use hotkeys too

but doing like 6 instead of 3

is a pain in the ass

nah

its a diff user experience

GGGGGRRRRRRRRRRVROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"your hearing loss is not service related"

the same one I think

[drifting crag]

v 12 ?

[turbid owl]

they just picked God's strongest engine sound for the vfx

[drifting crag]

yes

btw

pmc will come next week they say

[turbid owl]

yeah its the same engine

if anything it should be a worse engine

the T-90A is a 90s era export tank vs the B3 is a budget T-90 esque upgrade package

with more modern parts

I mean the problem with Russian tanks is you never really know what's actually true about them

[drifting crag]

make eu great again

uuuu

[turbid owl]

its too thicc

the sdk

[drifting crag]

you mean

a game where driving s slippery?

i mean

trees can blok 120 mm cannon

i mean

its a viable tactic

[turbid owl]

you just described an engineering vehicle

lol

[drifting crag]

AHAHHA

[turbid owl]

bring back trench warfare

[drifting crag]

never gets old

[turbid owl]

instead of W key to point and getting sniped

you just get hobby lobby'd

instead

what kit gets FPV drones

[drifting crag]

how big will the update be?

[drifting crag]

baba yaga

[turbid owl]

actually theres like pics of drone pilots huh

theyre like

dudes with VR goggles and flak kit out the ass

[drifting crag]

oh boy

[turbid owl]

I mean

War Thunder is like

[drifting crag]

that bradley gunner

[turbid owl]

a slav icon isnt it

tho War Thunder is too good of a game to be a true soft skill

for like using mil gear

[drifting crag]

omg

[turbid owl]

too much control abstraction

[drifting crag]

its the fpv pilot himself

[turbid owl]

they need the GHPC players

[drifting crag]

lol

[turbid owl]

the WT players just now where to track and barrel torture the T-90

a la that Brad gunner who was like "trust bro I played War Thunder I knew exactly where to shoot"

which is frankly hilarious

[drifting crag]

well, SOP is certain to get away from that tank cuz you're a IFV

[turbid owl]

I mean if it's that CQC urban footage

didnt they not actually pen the T-72

[drifting crag]

yeah yeah

I remember that one

[turbid owl]

didnt see that footage then

I just remember the one where the BTR ignites the fuel tank

[drifting crag]

its uh, its mariupol

azov brig

[turbid owl]

it was a gunner cam

you could barely even tell it was a tank

BTR-4 FCS is not able to handle its own overpressure

[drifting crag]

lol

[turbid owl]

that thing flashes black and white every trigger pull

[drifting crag]

yeah

thats one squad moment right there

[turbid owl]

rat behavior best behavior

[drifting crag]

lol, unreal

[turbid owl]

cats are large rats

they prowl

rat behavior

rats just eat inanimate things

cats go for real game

[bright wind]

cats are fucking apex

litterally the most OP build

[drifting crag]

we hunt radios for breakfast

[bright wind]

needs to be nerfed

[drifting crag]

hooman cant hurt us, we're sleeping

omg

famous streamer vucqt

big fan

i roll, all day

[bright wind]

I love people joining channels to talk about something different lmfao

[drifting crag]

lol

yeah, it happens alll the time

[ancient glade]

Huh?

[supple sonnet]

i saw the one where the brad gunner knocked all the sensors out of a t-80 or some other RU mbt and the turret went "weeeeeeee" as it reversed as fast as it could before hitting a telephone pole and crew dismounted

gunner said he knew where to shoot cause he played war thunder lol

was using HE rounds instead of AP cause they ran out i think

[turbid owl]

Rat = sneaky, cats are sneaky

[ancient glade]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-sneaky-key-lock-door-tom-cat-gif-27616110

Warno this evening or after op?

I haven’t used the new divisions yet

[obsidian pier]

@ancient glade we playing now b4 hoi4 tn

[ancient glade]

ill be on soon, gotta eat supper

[gritty sail]

<@&1069456861285331055> after Op?
Anyone who wants the ***Warno/Red Dragon ***tag just let me know here.

[tidal smelt]

im in

[rich agate]

This reminds me of when i drew up imaginary battle maps as a kid

[gritty sail]

Warno time

Invite code:
NjI5NjA2OTQ1NzEwNDEwODA3Mg==

@sly verge @brittle crane

@ancient glade

@rich agate when your game done, join us

@loud briar @serene dawn @tidal cliff @gritty minnow

[loud briar]

@gritty sail I don't own the game lol

[gritty sail]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-quite-see-the-problem-here-dont-understand-whtas-wrong-whats-the-issue-lucifer-morningstar-gif-16837823

[ancient glade]

https://tenor.com/view/warno-get-on-warno-on-the-way-en-el-camino-gif-26524635

[gritty sail]

waiting on you @ancient glade

@rich agate change teams

[turbid owl]

10v10s be like

[ancient glade]

Had fun last night playing this again, I’m down for more tonight if peeps are interested

[gritty sail]

Definitely.

[turbid owl]

<@&1069456861285331055> any takers?

[turbid owl]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315706430336401410/1287995731604668498/image.png?ex=66f39300&is=66f24180&hm=f489e2ee5ebc808b41afe49d1c8b3432a7b89e188a97aa41c74c6e79e7aa8d8a&

@elder nymph @fervent steeple @rich agate @opal vale

that one?

no

it was meant to just be a pain in the ass

in a place nobody looks

yes

it got shelled eventually

it was already upvet