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golden vault Apr 12, 2024, 11:57 PM

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Okay we need to get your cgnat result first

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As if you are behind cgnat, port forwarding won't work

sonic wyvern Apr 12, 2024, 11:58 PM

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alright

golden vault Apr 12, 2024, 11:59 PM

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So I want to clarify what you mean by "on my satellite"? And "not sure my hotspot works"

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sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:21 AM

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golden vault So I want to clarify what you mean by "on my satellite"? And "not sure my hotspo...

i have two networks, one is a hotspot and the other is sattelite

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sorry about the long response, i was eating dinner

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:42 AM

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Can you screenshot the place where you found the Enable Port Forwarding menu, and the contents once you click it?

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Which connection, by the way

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:47 AM

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my satellite

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night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:53 AM

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Welp...might as well give it a shot.
Can you set it to your current server's IP, as shown by the ipconfig you ran before, and set it for TCP, public and LAN both 30000?

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We are skipping some steps, but...you are right there

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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my default gateway or my ipv4 adress?

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:54 AM

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Your machine's IPv4 address, not the gateway

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The gateway is the router address

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Although...are you using a separate router, or just the one provided by the sat service?

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I can't remember

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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provided by the sat service

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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OK, then yes, just your machine's IPv4

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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okay, done!

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:55 AM

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OK. On the off chance, head to your machine, restart Foundry - check the link?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:56 AM

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on it

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damn, still closed

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:57 AM

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OK, well we didn't do many of the normal steps in between, I just jumped

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:57 AM

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i notice that the internet one is running on a different ip than i put into the port fowarding thing

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:58 AM

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night field OK, well we didn't do many of the normal steps in between, I just jumped

no problem lol

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:58 AM

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Ah...What do you mean when you say 'The internet one' ?

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You mean the invite link in Foundry?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 12:58 AM

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night field You mean the invite link in Foundry?

yes

night field Apr 13, 2024, 12:58 AM

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Can you DM that to me real

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OK

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Gotcha

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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just in case it helps, everything my router can do

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Yup, that looks good

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So, let us backtrack slightly.

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:01 AM

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alrighty

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:01 AM

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Try this.

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On the hosting machine, please:
press the windows key on your keyboard
type defender
select Windows Defender Firewall
click Advanced Settings on the left, then Inbound rules
Sort by the "Name" column, then scroll down until you get to the section where Foundry should be

How many rules do you see for Foundry?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:01 AM

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ah, i already did all of that, LAN works now

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foundry is in the Exeption section

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is what i can assume

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:02 AM

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We...ah don't necessarily need to do that.

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Do you have no Foundry rules?

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Or can you Screenshot how you have set up foundry in Defender?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:03 AM

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foundry port is checked off on private and public networks

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night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:04 AM

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OK, just the one rule?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:04 AM

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yes, only the one

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:04 AM

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OK, try this:
Please copy-paste this into Powershell:
Get-NetConnectionProfile | Select-Object InterfaceAlias,NetworkCategory
then press enter, and tell me the response. If you get multiple lines, give me all the lines 🙂

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:05 AM

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night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:05 AM

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OK

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And you said you can reach the Foundry log in screen from another machine on your local network?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:07 AM

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yep!

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:08 AM

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OK, can you check to see if, when you go to the set up in Foundry, and go to the connection area, do you have the use UPnP check box marked on or off?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:09 AM

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it is on

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:10 AM

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OK. Turn that off, shut down Foundry, reboot your modem if you can - shut it down, wait a few minutes, restart it, wait ten minutes, restart Foundry. The UPnP request might be fighting with the manual port forward.

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Check back in when that is done

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And, ... just to note, still not 100% sure this is going to work, the network trace still looks funky

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:11 AM

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should i turn off upnp on the router too?

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:11 AM

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No

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That could mess up other things in your home

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Just Foundry, so it won't ask

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:13 AM

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ahh okay

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:13 AM

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night field And, ... just to note, still not 100% sure this is going to work, the network tr...

i understand 😭

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still not working-

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:19 AM

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OK, open up the port forwarding feature on the router again, and snap a screenshot of the rules that are there...

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:19 AM

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night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:21 AM

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Yup. That looks good

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:22 AM

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just give up?

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:22 AM

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OK, can you try something...Open up a web browser.
See if you can open a connection to http://192.168.41.43

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:23 AM

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i cannot

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:23 AM

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Mmmmmmm

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So at this point, you have a device that is refusing to respond to any traffic requests just on the other side of your home router.

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Past that are three devices that are reporting IP numbers that SHOULD be reserved for home, private equipment - which means they are either oddly configured, or configured inside the private network of the sat company - and based on the trace times, may be on the sat equipment itself

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:26 AM

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its probably the sat equipment since a bunch of stuff doesnt work here cause of how slow the network is

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:26 AM

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Yeah, based on the ping times, that tracks

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You'll effectively have to get traffic forwarded through there as well.

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At this point, we can switch to trying to see what is up with your hotspot...or you can call your Sat company, and ask if it is even possible to host a server that requires a publicly available IP with a forwarded port...and see what they say

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:27 AM

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i think ill test the hotspot again

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i cant find the admin pass on the box, its a netgear nighthawk m9

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:30 AM

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But, what is the actual hot spot box?

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You have a netgear router plugged into it? What is the box itself?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:32 AM

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uihhh

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its basically a mini computer that functions as a hotspot

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its got a screenon it

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:33 AM

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Oh dear. OK...Can you get at the settings?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:36 AM

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holy cragmaw

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i think

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so the router has a function called ip passthrough

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have you heard of it?

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apparently its to prevent a whole bunch of errors allow servers to run through it

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Might work

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Again, generally, hot spot connections have very limited options.

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Worth investigating though

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:38 AM

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alright, ill just turn it on and test

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alright ive set it up

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okay soooo uhhh

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still not working

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Alright. Can you run the CGNAT trace from the machine with the hotspot set up as your connection?

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And you likely need to cycle UPnP back on on the Foundry instance.

mighty patrolBOT Apr 13, 2024, 1:55 AM

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Carrier Grade Network Address Translation (CGNAT)

CGNAT is a service used by ISPs to decrease the number of IPv4 addresses their networks use. It places an additional router outside the customer's own network and provides them with an internal IPv4 address provided by the company. This often prevents incoming connections on numerous ports.

Confirming the presence of CGNAT

To confirm you are affected by CG NAT, use one of the following commands:

Windows 10 or 11: open a PowerShell (not CMD) window and use the following command

tracert -h 5 (curl 4.ident.me -UseBasicParsing); tracert 8.8.8.8; echo Done!```
**Mac/Linux**: open a terminal and use the following command

traceroute -m 5 $(curl -s 4.ident.me); traceroute 8.8.8.8; echo Done!```
After the command has completed (it will say Done!), please post a screenshot here with the results so a troubleshooter can interpret them.

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:56 AM

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night field And you likely need to cycle UPnP back on on the Foundry instance.

okay

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:57 AM

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Yeah, that still looks relatively bad.
Can you check on your hot spot's interface, and see if it reports a WAN IP in the status page or something similar?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 1:58 AM

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theres a dns, ipv4, v6 and thats it

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darn

night field Apr 13, 2024, 1:58 AM

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Mmmm

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Yeah, that first 172 number is effectively the same sort of thing as the sat trace showing additional 192 addresses, that number is supposed to be for private equipment, which implies there is going to need to be a route punched through that, which will require access to that machine, which I imagine you can not get

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Can you connect to 172.26.96.161 ?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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damnit

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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night field Can you connect to 172.26.96.161 ?

i canot

night field Apr 13, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Yeah, not surprising.

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Once again, I would imagine that you would want to contact your hot spot supplier, and ask if you can even port forward with a publicly available IP number that requires a specific port to be exposed using the hardware and on the plan you are on at the moment

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 2:02 AM

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ah. damnit

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okay

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well

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looks like its just not gonna work

night field Apr 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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Yeah, I sadly wasn't that hopeful, but it was worth double checking

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Are you up on the other options that are commonly available, if your chat with the two ISP's don't pan out?

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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thank you for all the help

sonic wyvern Apr 13, 2024, 2:03 AM

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night field Are you up on the other options that are commonly available, if your chat with t...

sure

night field Apr 13, 2024, 2:04 AM

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OK. well,... It is probably worth checking with Customer support from the companies, and then following up back here if you need help assuming they can't assist you.

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Sorry this was a dead end. But best of luck

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