MidiQOL

[atomic badge]

Hi super late, but this would be available for non-owned tokens as it is an effect one applies to a target.

Think of it just as the terminology used for this subclass' specific subset of abilities.

There's a wide variety of them and the way they apply the tempHP varies between them. That is to say, there are two methods of application.

1. Through taking damage while being under the effect of something called "Gravity Field".
2. Through a rolled number that is stated on the ability itself.

Honestly I find it hard to answer this question as I am not sure what information you're looking for.

[vast bane]

it assumes you are using srd bard so go look at the starter hero bards scale value and match it

[atomic badge]

Thanks, I assume this'd be through Item Macro or?
I appreciate it nonetheless however. 🙇🏻‍♂️

[vast bane]

if its a level 1 bard, just delete that imported bard and drag and drop the level 1 bard from the dnd5e srd

[molten solar]

I am not familiar with macro execution performed in this thread. 👍

[atomic badge]

Alright gotcha. 👍🏻

[vast bane]

if its a published feature can you just tell us its name so we can loook it up, your bein a lil cryptic

[soft ravine]

so what your saying is this is only good if i drop on a actor, and not if i fix the class advancement? - when i started using foundry i made everything from scratch...

[atomic badge]

Sorry, that's my fault.
Yeah I have a fully published subclass I suppose I'll drop it here.

[vast bane]

why did you make the base classes from scratch they are given by the system?

[atomic badge]

I'm a little brain dead atm as I am incredibly tired. 🫠

[violet meadow]

I cannot replicate the error.

Can you try with only MidiQOL, DAE, MidiSRD, socketilib, libwrapper, Advanced Macros?

[vast bane]

give us the name of the feature,

[soft ravine]

-They were half assed, shit for subclasses.

[vast bane]

the classes are free in the srd

the bardic scale value is in the class, not subclasses

[atomic badge]

Well it isn't an official subclass.

The name of the feature it comes from is Runic Inscriptions and it has a sub-category that includes this part in Wards.

[frail osprey]

I can't replicate it either. Guess it was a one time thing or something, but I'll keep an eye on that.

[violet meadow]

So does it work now fine?

[frail osprey]

yup!

[soft ravine]

so when i match it, i need to match it within the class - tnx mate

[frail osprey]

both versions, Mr Primate and Midi

[vast bane]

thats not a published item is it?

what book is it from?

or are you dealing with a language barrier? and you are translating artificer infusions weirdly?

[atomic badge]

Well I mean, it is published in the sense that I have it on D&D Beyond as a homebrew subclass that I've left in there for the public.
Edit: I realized too late what you meant by published, lmao.

Ah, no I am not, it is its whole own thing.

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/jQmVFypWInKCc/giphy.gif

[violet meadow]

OK so are you using an Item that "deals" tempHP damage?

or a macro to apply tempHP?

[atomic badge]

Yes.

An item.

[violet meadow]

Is it only an Actor that has that ability?

[atomic badge]

Correct.

[violet meadow]

So you are looking for a way for an Actor to be able to give tempHP to whatever target, stacking up to an amount equal to the Actor's level + something

[atomic badge]

So what I'm looking for is the ability to introduce a ceiling to the maximum amount of tempHP that it can give through its subclass features.

[violet meadow]

that sounds different.

So you have an Item. It deals tempHP damage. Correct?

[atomic badge]

Yes, that is right.

[vast bane]

does that class purposely violate the raw temp hp rule?

[atomic badge]

It purposely violates the raw temp HP rule yes.

[violet meadow]

What is the max cap?

[atomic badge]

The max cap is based on three times your Artificer level + your Intelligence modifier at base.

This increases to four times your Artificer level + double your Intelligence modifier at Lv.9

And ending at Lv.15 with five times your Artificer level + double your Intelligence modifier with the use of an active once per long rest ability.

[violet meadow]

For that part you should create a scale value on the actor to emulate it much easier.

[atomic badge]

Alright, got it.

[molten solar]

Make the scale value for just the multiplier (3, 4, 5). The roll data will not be replaced twice.

[violet meadow]

yeah I should have specified that

[atomic badge]

Understood.

[molten solar]

So you'll have something like

@scale.<arti-subclass-identifier>.thingy * @classes.artificer.levels + @abilities.int.mod

[violet meadow]

In general will need an Actor onUse macro, checking targets current tempHP, getting the tempHP rolled damage amount of the Item, comparing the scaled max amount to the current value + the new "damage" and clamping it before applying it as a new and "improved" tempHP update

[atomic badge]

I'd assume this would have to be an onUse macro for each ability that is supposed to work in this way right?

[violet meadow]

It should be an Actor onUse macro, not one per Item

[atomic badge]

I understand, my bad, haha.

[violet meadow]

So you can use it whenever you roll an Item

[violet meadow]

Which abilities are supposed to work like that? Are they all that apply tempHP?

[atomic badge]

All subclass features from this subclass that apply tempHP.

[violet meadow]

got sidetracked. I will write something up when I have some time 😉

[atomic badge]

Ah! No worries, thank you so much for the time, I appreciate all the help I can get.

Does the Midi wiki have like starter guides or anything of the sort? Trying to figure this stuff out has been a lil' difficult at times. 👀

[static sparrow]

Best advice is probably to look at concrete examples of something similar to what you want in the midi compendium or the various premade options that Moto’s wiki page lists.

[limber obsidian]

So, when using (v10.291 and 5e 2.1.5) Midi-QoL and using the damage buttons on the chat (the little red and green buttons overlaid on the roll) they stopped working, and I get the following error:
caught (in promise) TypeError: undefined. Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'activationFails') [Detected 1 package: midi-qol] at applyTokenDamageMany (utils.js:529:17) at legacyApplyTokenDamageMany (utils.js:786:9) at applyTokenDamage (utils.js:441:9) at HTMLButtonElement.<anonymous> (chatMesssageHandling.js:667:11) at HTMLButtonElement.dispatch (jquery.min.js:2:43064) at y.handle (jquery.min.js:2:41048)

[scarlet gale]

Bug in newest version

Roll back to 37 the quickest fix

[limber obsidian]

Ah. I can live with it for now. 🙂 Thanks for the heads up

[strong yew]

I've been seeing this error quite a bit recently.

Have looked through my macro and don't have anything that seems to fit

[scarlet gale]

I want to say the 11:70 is the line and location?

of whatever macro it's trying to run

[strong yew]

I'm on 1.18.1 for advanced macros. Looks like I locked it from updating from probably some problem a while ago

[scarlet gale]

Should be safe to unlock now

I did something similar awhile back when it broke everything with it's refactor

[strong yew]

I'll update and see if that changes anything. Sounds like newest is safe. Thanks

Should at least eliminate that as a potential problem

[scarlet gale]

Honestly, I wouldn't even have the module if it wasn't for the DDB importer having a hard check for it to use midi-qol effects.

[strong yew]

That's more than likely why I have it as well

Hey cool, looks like that was the issue lol. Error disappeared

Love it when it all comes together

Unrelated secondary question for warpgate. I know multiple mutations can be tracked and named, but can I mutate a mutation?

[scarlet gale]

You can mutate something that's already been mutated.

[strong yew]

Like say I have a base effect that is applied via a mutation, and then a compounding mutation that updates that effect?

[scarlet gale]

Not sure if you can directly edit the mutation. @dark canopy would know.

[strong yew]

If I were to revert the bottom effect, would that be weird at all with the children mutates?

[dark canopy]

you can modify the current mutation stack, yes, but @strong yew what is the use case for modifying the mutation stack?

[strong yew]

So for a feature right now, it has quite a lot of effects. Every turn, you can change the effects. I was handling this by basically reverting the entire mutation, and reapplying it with the updates extra stuff every turn, but that seems to be pretty heavy handed

The actual changes each turn are only like 2-3 changes, and the other underlying ones don't change even when you change form

was thinking it would be better if I could just handle the form changes, and keep the effect there as a base effect, without creating 2 separate effects to track

Basically was thinking if I ended the parent mutate, would it also end the child mutates if I had a stack like that

Wanting to just basically do much smaller mutates rather than big ones each turn

[scarlet gale]

Possibly do the base mutation then another one on top?

instead of editing the big one?

[inland vortex]

I'm working on the Aid spell. The version I started with had the max hp increase. I added a heal, and the scaling. Unfortunately the heal goes off before the hp max increase. I tried lowering the priority of the hp max, it won't go to 0, but it would go to 10. That didn't help. Is there a way to change the priority of the heal?

[strong yew]

So working off your suggestion before about the effect macro calling the revert on deletion, I was wanting to incorporate that. If I have the reversion happen, it'd be targeting the parent

[scarlet gale]

You can check the stack for what ones are in use and revert it by name

[violet meadow]

Check if you can use this Aid spell as a base

<#1010273821401555087 message>

[inland vortex]

ty

[dark canopy]

hmm, im not really in the headspace to dissect this much further than this, which are some notes about how the mutation stack works.

1. the mutation stack stores revert data generated at the time of mutation.

2. If multiple mutations are applied, that modify a common field, the final value on the doc is the value set by the last mutation.

3. Same case as 3, but now reverting the first mutation applied. Warpgate runs through the mutation stack, looking for other mutations that have modified any given field the reverting mutation has modified. Any that are found are removed from the revert's update. E.g. start at 5, first mutation sets HP at 10, second sets at 20; revert the first mutation, and we are left at 20 HP, revert the last remaining mutation and we are back to HP of 5

[strong yew]

Ah, I see, yeah that's what I was asking. So if I have an effect that gives say. Bludgeoning,Piercing,Slashing resist, then have another mutate on that SAME effect that gives a flight speed of 20

and I revert the initial mutate, it will still have a flight speed of 20

Even if the original mutate created the effect on the actor?

[scarlet gale]

Why mutate the effect?

I would just mutate the actor?

[inland vortex]

Are you talking about the 6KB of code JSON file?

[strong yew]

Yeah, sorry maybe just misspeaking. It is updating the actor, with the effect details

[scarlet gale]

Or just have the macro delete and create effects if it's just doing fly speed or whatever

[strong yew]

await warpgate.mutate(this.token.document, updates, {}, details);

[inland vortex]

I have no idea what to do with that

[scarlet gale]

You can edit / delete created effects from a mutation. Warpgate won't spit out an error if the effect is gone when it reverts later on.

[celest bluff]

You could just layer mutates also

[scarlet gale]

That's what I was originally saying

[dark canopy]

in that specific case, if you are mutating actor AEs, since their changes field is an array and WG treats all arrays as unique values, if you apply a mutation to an AE and want to keep its current effects, you need to copy out the original AE's changes array, modify, then apply

[scarlet gale]

Have a mutation for each form you're in

[dark canopy]

but yes, if you are mutating actor data, adding features, modifying speeds, skip the whole AE thing

[strong yew]

Yeah that's how I'm currently doing it. There's a base mutation, and depending on what you choose, it adds to the array depending on your choice, then reverts the original, and mutates another

But it ends up kind of performance heavy for some reason. Stutters every time

Was trying to do more micro reverts for the specifics on the form, and keep a solid base for the stuff that doesn't change

[scarlet gale]

Just do an update to the effect then

without warpgate

[strong yew]

I can do that, that is how I originally was doing it but thought warpgate might be better suited

[violet meadow]

That is an Aid spell that you can import and use.
I am out and cannot help more 😅

[violet meadow]

Stuttering or just warpgate taking its time to revert and mutate again?

[strong yew]

Music track skips a bit and everything catches back up

[violet meadow]

AEs will be ... heavy duty

[strong yew]

Some of the effect has ATL stuff in it too

I assume ATL is pretty performance heavy also, cause even with just the effect on, my CPU usage kind of skyrockets

[celest bluff]

can take a look at mine.. I used warpgate for it. https://www.patreon.com/posts/aid-82376848

just create a temp item as a spell, then import it on from the item directory

[inland vortex]

ty, i'll look at it

[spice kraken]

Custom | 1 is what you want @junior stratus

[junior stratus]

thank you @spice kraken

[spice kraken]

Give the readme a read (in pins here)

There's the real readme, and a community wiki (I've never looked at that though)

[junior stratus]

will do. I read through the docs in github but there wasnt a lot of detail on what values are valid for attributes

[spice kraken]

Most will be Custom | 1 for midi stuff, but not all

[junior stratus]

Cool. Appreciate it, I'll check the docs out too

[covert vessel]

does anyone know how to extend the range of a melee attack temporarily? I've tried through dynamic active effects using "flags.midi-qol.rangeOverride.attack.mwak" set to override and it stops the target is too far message from popping up but the attack made after generating that effect doesn't resolve. I've tried effect values equal to the intended extended range, true, 1, and 0. Can't find anything about the function of this flag in the midi-qol documentation.

[vast bane]

this sounds very much like you are doing a bad thing here, do not do aid as active effects, also aid is already made in midi srd.

[vast bane]

I just modded my bugbear players melee attacks manually.

[scarlet gale]

I just looked, there is actually no documentation on it. Not even in the changelogs lol

I did find a few references in the code, it appears as though it should just be a true or false.

Ah ha, found the merge: https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/merge_requests/99

[frail osprey]

I have a player that has that monk astral stuff that increases melee attack's range by 5. What I did was add another weapon in his inventory with 10 ft. range. I'm thinking of automating it in the future much like Flame Blade spell.

might be easier to go that way, since Flame Blade's macro is already fully written and functional, you just have to adapt it.

[scarlet gale]

What version of midi are you on?

I wonder if it's not working from other unrelated bugs in newer versions

[frail osprey]

(for reference: Flame Blade creates a weapon in the player's inventory. Then, once the effect wears off, the blade is deleted)

[scarlet gale]

Just tested, looks like it's failing in another spot.

[vast bane]

hmmmm

[covert vessel]

I was on midi 10.0.39, will try again on 10.0.40

[scarlet gale]

Doesn't look like it's been touched since being included.

https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/blob/v10/src/module/utils.ts#L1833 It's failing here.

[vast bane]

wow yeah, flame blade is broken

[scarlet gale]

Needs a fix from tposney

[vast bane]

actaully my flameblade is fine

[scarlet gale]

@gilded yacht Looks like flags.midi-qol.rangeOverride.attack doesn't fully work. There is another check that's preventing the attack from going through.

[vast bane]

I have an unrelated error hmmm

I also reset my cookies and my god this is hell

all my foundry site settings are gone

[soft ravine]

confused yet again: CPR / Monk /evasion (i dont see anyting about evasion for the monk class when i check the SRD, PHB, DMM...

[vast bane]

I need to start backing up my settings along with my world

[scarlet gale]

Confused by what?

[vast bane]

Read the books a lil slower?

[scarlet gale]

It's a 7th level feature.

[vast bane]

Evasion is page 79 of the phb

[soft ravine]

h8 myself. found it on wiki, looks like i made a mistake when building the class @scarlet gale - sry tnx

[vast bane]

you don't need to build the base classes 0_o

[soft ravine]

a bit late on that memo

[vast bane]

your life is gonna be a nightmare for scale values if you made the base classes

[scarlet gale]

Well, they're using that module. So...

[soft ravine]

i think i have most of it fixed already.. been there done that nightmare

[vast bane]

make sure your identifiers are not capital letters

thats going to be the biggest complication since @stuff will call the identifier

[soft ravine]

fixed that last fall 2022

[vast bane]

whenever an item is using a scale, which will probably be a bunch of CPR stuff, you will need to compare your scale name to the default srd class scale

so far its just bardic

[soft ravine]

( i didnt use discord when i started ) 🥶

[scarlet gale]

Fighter, Bard, and Blood Hunter reference scales in a few places.

[vast bane]

for fighter its the sub right?

[scarlet gale]

Yea

It's the scales for the martial dice

[vast bane]

that one he can't get around, unless he can yoink it from ddbi

[scarlet gale]

I put the scale name in the item description.

Including the identifier.

[reef salmon]

Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a problem. The addDfred() function call doesn't seem to be applying the Dfred effect properly.

I haven't tested any others, but specifically this call in the "blindess" async function doesn't apply the "Blinded" condition like it does when you click on it in the Convenient Effects list:

"await MidiMacros.addDfred("Blinded", actor)"

[scarlet gale]

MidiMacros doesn't seem to be an exported function.

Unless there is another module adding that.

[reef salmon]

This is from the MidiSRD-macros.js file

[scarlet gale]

ah

that's why

I don't have that installed. (sorry Bugbear)

does it give you an error?

[reef salmon]

No, it just behaves strangely

[scarlet gale]

How so?

It's just wrapping the dfreds api method

await game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect({ effectName: name, uuid: actor.uuid })```

[vast bane]

I think it needs the same fix tim added

[scarlet gale]

I think you just need "Blinded"

Not blindness

unless you have a custom effect called that

[vast bane]

what is the strange behavior?

is it removing an effect while it adds or removing adding and removing?

[reef salmon]

So the function itself is supposed to open a dialog that lets the caster choose between Blindess/deafness, but it doesn't trigger immediately, instead waiting for I assume an auto ability save. But once the ability save goes through, the dialog doesn't pop, only when I either cast again, or click "apply effects"

[vast bane]

there is a known issue with CE's that when things happen at the same time the function gets confused, tposney addded a delay to fix it in midi so that its less likely that CE's get applied from multiple sources at the same time.

[scarlet gale]

I'm not sure that API method supports that feature yet

[scarlet gale]

It sounds like they're using the embedded thingy in CE

where you can select multiple options

[vast bane]

yeah midi doesn't work with dfreds nesteds

that feature in 4.0 defreds is basically for non midi users

[scarlet gale]

If they're using dfreds own API method, you would think it would

[vast bane]

He's probably not calling the right thing

[scarlet gale]

I just checked the code

[vast bane]

isn't it called Blindness/Deafness?

[scarlet gale]

Maybe?

[vast bane]

why are you using dfred though?

[reef salmon]

I pulled blindness/deafness from MidiQOL Sample Items, the macro invoked is called "blindness"

[vast bane]

doesn't midi srd have that spell?

[vast bane]

what versions are you on?

what on earth is this you are saying lol?

[reef salmon]

For MidiQOL I am on 10.0.35, SRD is on 10.10.2

[reef salmon]

I'm trying to say that this function isn't one I made, it came with a module lol

[reef salmon]

Woops, sorry, I meant Midi SRD Spells

[vast bane]

right but you aren't using it

lets back up, are you just trying to make an automated blindness/deafness?

or are you trying to automate something else and trying to jerry rig the spells automation for it?

[reef salmon]

No, I am trying to grab Blindness/deafness from Midi SRD and cast it.

I noticed that it wasn't applying any of the convenient effects, so I went searching for the .js

[vast bane]

configure settings, midiqol, workflow button, workflow tab, specials section, second drop down, what is it set to, snippet please?

[strong yew]

How do I ensure only one instance of a feature can be active?

[vast bane]

I suspect your problem is that you have the drop down set to ce before ae, and the dfreds CE is broken in midi

bam

mic drop

change that drop down, nowadays that is largely a bad way to run dfreds in midi

[strong yew]

Guess I've never really dealt with non-concentration effects like this. Feature isn't concentration but I don't want them to be able to use it twice

[vast bane]

since midi auto apply of nested ce's is broken

do AE before ce and your spell needs to be redragged out since you edited it and probably broke it

[reef salmon]

Gotcha

[vast bane]

alternatively you can check the boxes at the bottom of the spells:

but nowadays it is going to be insanely unlikely that anyone wants to apply ce before ae

[reef salmon]

Works like a charm, thanks!

[vast bane]

cause dfreds CE added a feature in 4.0 that just does not like midi

[reef salmon]

I'll keep that in mind

[vast bane]

plus we all use CPR+midi srd so most items have ae's that are better

[scarlet gale]

Check for the existence of that effect already? Or check for it's mutation name if you're still working on the same thing as before.

Can always flag the feature too I suppose

[vast bane]

I make it not stack personally, but dfreds is weird with stacking lately

[strong yew]

Yeah only things I was thinking might be a problem is if it's the turn start effect vs a reroll

and how to differentiate that

I can figure it out, just was wondering if there was some simple way I was overlooking

[scarlet gale]

In theory, you have an effect for the duration of the feature. Just check if that exists and do a return if so.

[strong yew]

Is there a way to find an effect by label with a wildcard?

Like if I always had a prefix? Or does it need to be exact?

[scarlet gale]

Would just be a string.find on the label

Or something similar

You can also give the effect a flag and just search for that flag

[atomic badge]

Do you all know if there is a pre-made somewhere with the following effect:
Disadvantage on attack rolls against creatures other than the source actor.

[vast bane]

the short answer is no, deflect attack can't be automated because its a third party reaction

the long answer can be found in a magic item I shared on kandashi's server in the active auras channel and is janky AF and not recommended for amateur users.

[static sparrow]

Yes, CPR implements the Armorer artificer’s thunder gauntlets which have that exact effect.

[vast bane]

oh I just automatically assumed it was a reaction item my bad

[atomic badge]

Thanks, I'll take a look at it, also no worries, haha. ^^

[gilded yacht]

Should be done in v 40 (ish)

[coarse mesa]

Brilliant, thanks!

[atomic badge]

Hey, question, I have the following setup right now, but I am not sure how to set the effect to not disappear on a successful saving throw, what term should I throw in here for that? (Homebrew stuff)
turn=end, damageBeforeSave=true, label=Rubblerouser, damageRoll=2d8, damageType=bludgeoning, saveDC=15, saveAbility=con

[cosmic kayak]

You'll be looking for "saveRemove" for that, add;
saveRemove=false

[atomic badge]

Thanks!

[cosmic kayak]

No problem

[raven holly]

Does Activation Condition stuff work with Reactions? (e.g. only trigger the reaction when damaged by Acid)?

[vast bane]

they will always prompt if set to reaction X(cept manual)

activation condition can be parsed for rolling other damage and applying effects

[static sparrow]

Which is a bummer when your players are idiots 😔

[vast bane]

for the reaction, but not for limiting when its prompted

[vast bane]

Amen!

I'm using 2 third party janky reactions

those get pressed alot unintentionally

[violet meadow]

not by default but you can make them ( macro 😄 )

I have a sample Item that does this

Basic premise, the Item creates an Actor onUse macro with triggers isAttacked for instance and then ```js
if (!args[0].macroPass == "isAttacked") {
const { options:{token:targetToken,actor:targetActor}, item } = args[0] ?? {}; //that might not do it for getting MidiQOL v 10.0.37+ I need to check it.
if (!token || !actor || !item) return ui.notifications.error("MidiSRD Gloves of Missile Snaring macro error, pleasy notify the GM");
if (item.system.actionType == "rwak") {
const deflectItem = targetToken.actor.items.find(i=>i.getFlag("midi-srd","sourceId") == "tmrJlIOK0XLKCM1y");
let activation = duplicate(deflectItem.system.activation)
activation.type = "reactiondamaged";
await deflectItem.update({"system.activation":activation});
}
}

[raven holly]

lol Im sure you could, but Im alright, just gonna change it to manual rxn and if I have an enemy that does acid damage I'll turn it back on

[violet meadow]

So this checks if the incoming attack is rwak and changes the Item's Activation Type from reaction manual to reaction damaged so that it can be picked up in the right timing

[vast bane]

did you do deflect missiles in midi srd?

thats always an ask from here since the midiqol sample is kinda broken

[violet meadow]

the Gloves of Missile Snaring 😉

deflect missiles isn't SRD afaik, but it can be changed

[vast bane]

its a base monk feature

[static sparrow]

Isn’t it a base monk feature?

[violet meadow]

is it?

[vast bane]

midi srd just doesn't have class features right?

[static sparrow]

Yeah, 3rd level for all monks.

[vast bane]

god now you got me feelin guilty about not doing more work on the wiki lol

So for like months now I've been begging for a search function for character sheets to replace tidy and just realized that ctrl F in chrome does it just fine lol.

I'm also pondering going back to item collection instead of inventory+

[violet meadow]

Well its getting some 😄

[vast bane]

I think brutal critical is a class feature right?

[frail osprey]

barbarian

[violet meadow]

yeah these are done

as Items, no need for a macro is there?

[vast bane]

the current released has brutal critical, though you really don't need to make it, its built into special traits

the last time my barb hit the level for it hewound up getting 2 sessions of double dipping cause I didn't realize the class auto added the special trait too

[frail osprey]

so you had, like, ultimate brutal criticals?

[vast bane]

yeah he got like 4 dice on criticals, 4d12

[frail osprey]

ahahhahahah that poor GM

[vast bane]

I'm the DM

I just didn't notice cause he already hits for a truck

[frail osprey]

ahahhahahah barbarians being barbarians

[vast bane]

Paladin and barb in my 5 man group always out dps parse the party

hmmm, I'm down to 64 modules I bet I got room for encounter stats now

[frail osprey]

that's one thing I dislike about 5e, players are too overpowered even on earlier levels. I made the mistake of letting my players reach lvl 12 on my campaign. Boy, do I suffer trying to create challenges for them...

[vast bane]

My guys are 12, I don't mind it at all, but my adventuring days are brutally long

I'll ping you in tabletop cause I'm about to talk about something that very much is not midiqol related

[knotty valve]

The other day I tried to fix the sleep do damage issue, but then I noticed others have the same problem. However, after that, dice so nice, will not work anymore in combat. I automate almost everything with this module. I am sure I have turned something off as I was troubleshooting (sleep), but I cannot find what it is now. Anyone good with the settings, and know right off the bat where I should look in the settings for this module? Thanks in advance! I have not touched the settings for dice so nice.

[violet meadow]

Maybe in the MidiQOL settings => Workflow settings => GM tab

[frail osprey]

I'm trying to automate Multiattack Defense. Any ideas on how to do it?
(NA stands for "not automated")

[knotty valve]

No, I had that unchecked as well. Thanks though.

[dark canopy]

sounds similar to shield with a shorter duration, start there maybe?

[vast bane]

wow I kinda like this feature

You will need something like what bugbear just linked to limit it showing up, otherwise just make a shield/parry esque reaction

[short aurora]

Considering the action economy of dnd5e, honeybadger's suggestion would cover like 95% use cases

[violet meadow]

Any errors in console? Does it happen for all users?
Only for GM?

[knotty valve]

Found it in the GM-section. I had another selection in the GM Roll details. Now i changed to "none" and it works. 🙂

[strong yew]

dragonWings? Is this the lv6 feature for Ascendant Dragon subclass?

[pliant matrix]

Hi, how do I apply a status effect to an enemy?

[strong yew]

Ah right SRD

Dumb question lol

[vast bane]

you look new, do you have midiqol and dae?

[pliant matrix]

yes

I wanted to strike with a weapon and apply a sleep effect (already set), what should I change or what should I do to set midi?

[vast bane]

sleep sounds like you don't have cub or dfreds yet

automated conditions call sleep unconscious

set the active effects first tab to have NO boxes checked, then on the item itself set the target to blank/blank/creature and range to whatever

I'd recommend installing dfreds CE and setting it to replace conditions cause sleep sounds like the core condition which does not do anything in midi

also make sure effect transfer is on in midiqol:

configure settings>midiqol>workflow button>workflow tab>specials section, first drop down, if you install dfreds CE, make sure the second drop down is set to ae before CE

[pliant matrix]

ok, how should i configure the object?

[vast bane]

what do you mean object?

[frail osprey]

can the flag flags.midi-qol.optional.Name.ac execute item macro?

[vast bane]

theres an optional.NAME.macro command too

[frail osprey]

yeah, but I want the macro executed when the actor is attacked

I'm thinking that maybe it'll be better to automate Multiattack Defense by a world script rather than an item macro

[vast bane]

think this is precisely how bugbear setup the example above

#1010273821401555087 message

[frail osprey]

So I write "ItemMacro" on activation condition?

[vast bane]

I think that link says its an actor on use

[violet meadow]

What are we doing?

That is the triggering Item

[frail osprey]

I'm trying to find a way to automate this, but the challenge here is that I'm not a programmer

the coding part about giving +4 ac is easy, my issue is how to trigger that only after the second attack AND lasting only during the attacker's turn

and, preferrably, not spending the player's reaction

it seems that it's doable with hooks and world script, but I thought it'd make more sense with DAE

thought of using flags.midi-qol.optional.Name.ac, but it doesn't work with ItemMacro, I guess?

[violet meadow]

So this is an ability that needs activation or what?

[frail osprey]

oh, since it HAS to hit, I could use damage as a trigger, right?

[frail osprey]

it's a passive ability, always on. If the player is hit one time by a creature, he/she gains +4 AC against that creature's attack until the creature's turn is over. It can trigger multiple times in a single round.

[vast bane]

but not off the first attack

its triggered after the first attack is completed

[dark canopy]

you could do this with core, so surely you could do this with midi.

When actor update comes in that reduces the designated actor's health, toss up dialog for "MA defense", which adds +4 AC and a Hook.once for updateCombat that removes the bonus after the current turn changes

[violet meadow]

That too, but you can use the MidiQOL triggers isAttacked and adjust the AC for that specific attacker if the effect is on.

I cannot write this now though, so remind me later 😉

[strong yew]

So, am I doing something incorrectly here? Was trying to copy an existing effect duration to keep the timer consistent if refreshed.
Tried the options below, but they don't seem to work

let lastEffect = find effect yada yada;
newDuration = lastEffect.duration; //tried this
newDuration = foundry.utils.duplicate(lastEffect.duration); //and this

[violet meadow]

Refreshed how? AE reapplied?

[strong yew]

Well, it has options to change every turn. So the process I was following on the eachturn call was:
If effect is found active > copy duration to a variable > revert existing effect > apply duration variable to new effect > mutate

[violet meadow]

Can you not directly update the Effect?

I saw a conversation you had, but didn't read through the lot

Not entirely relevant but this is what I am testing now for MidiSRD ```js
/**

• @param {String} statusName statusEffect#label
• @param {Object} actor Actor5e
• @param {Object} changes to be applied to the base statusEffect, like: changes = {origin:item.uuid,duration:{seconds:25},flags:{dae:{specialDuration:['turnEnd']}}};
• @returns {String} created ActiveEffect5e#id
  */
  export async function _addStatusEffect(statusName, actor, changes) {
  const aeData = duplicate(CONFIG.statusEffects.find(ae => ae.label === statusName));
  if (changes) foundry.utils.mergeObject(aeData, changes);
  const hasEffect = this._hasEffect(statusName,actor);
  if (hasEffect && aeData) {
  aeData._id = hasEffect._id;
  await MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM("updateEffects", {actorUuid:actor.uuid,updates:[aeData]});
  }
  else if (aeData) await MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM("createEffects", {actorUuid:actor.uuid, effects:[aeData]});
  else return ui.notifications.error("MidiSRD helpers _addStatusEffect: statusName didn't produce a valid result.");
  const effectId = actor.effects.find(e=>e.label===statusName)?.id;
  return effectId;
  }

[rich matrix]

Hey. Not sure if midi-qol. My item-spell "Blindness/Deafness" (which I imported), gives me this option when I cast it. But I cant find it how it is happening. I want to create this option for other spells and items. How do I can accomplish this?

[static sparrow]

That's probably an Item Macro. You can just open the item macro and look at how it's implemented.

[violet meadow]

This is created by DFreds CE.

There are some exposed functions that you can use, under game.dfreds in console

One of these is about nested effects, which is what you are looking at when that dialog pops up

[rich matrix]

Thanks for the response. Someone else on #dnd5e also shown me the ways, with an youtube video guide to create my own. But I think with the tools CE gives in-game to create new effects are enough for me, which is great because I cant really code. ^^

[violet meadow]

Was that supernaf? Anyways 👍

Of course that was the one 🥳

[sleek glacier]

How do you guys handle soulknife (thief subclass)? Cant find any midi related, so just add some soul knife as items?

[frail osprey]

is there somewhere where I can see a list of dnd5e hooks?

[violet meadow]

not really MidiQOL relevant, but https://github.com/foundryvtt/dnd5e/wiki/Hooks

[frail osprey]

thanks, sorry about being off-topic

[violet meadow]

no worries, I wanted to suggest checking also the MidiQOL Hooks which can be used too.

[violet meadow]

I remember vaguely @coarse mesa talking about that? Or maybe not 🤔

[dark canopy]

also CONFIG.debug.hooks = true will spit out hooks as they fire

[frail osprey]

oh, that's great!

[violet meadow]

use with caution. It can drive you mad 😄

[frail osprey]

So, I've come to the conclusion that fiddling with flags to get Multiattack Defense to work is waaay beyond my very limited skills. Now I'm trying to do it using chat message as a hook to fire the macro. Ends up not being midi-qol related.

[violet meadow]

Is there a possibility for the user to not actually trigger the ability?

[frail osprey]

if it's the first attack suffered from the attacker on the turn

[dark canopy]

and circle gets the square

[frail osprey]

I feel like it's not very complicated to do this, but my programming skills are veeeery limited and I'm getting chat gpt to help me. You guys mentioned a couple ways to do it, but I have trouble even understanding what you say 😦

[quick mesa]

That’s no lie 🙂

[dark canopy]

(i really wouldnt even use gpt, it wont know the midi api and that's big here)

if im picking up what bugbear is putting down, you are wanting this:

1. A way to trigger a script after a specific actor has taken damage (i.e. hit by an attack)

2. A way to trigger a script each time the turn changes.

3. A way to increase ac by 4

4. A way to detect your ac is risen by 4, to prevent multiple executions of (1)

5. A way to check any other conditions relevant to running (1) or not

[frail osprey]

yeah, I was using chatgpt actually to try and do it without midi. My idea was:
1- place a hooks.on on something to trigger everytime an actor suffered some damage
2- then it'd check if the actor has an effect called "Multiattack Defense", if false, it doesn't do anything.
3- if 2 is true, then it'd check if it's the first time this has happened on the turn (by checking a variable defined earlier which starts as 1). If true (variable is still 1), then it increases the variable by 1 and proceeds. If false (variable => 2), it does nothing.
4- give +4 ac
5- (second part) trigger when current turn is ended: reset variable back to 1 and AC back to normal.

managed to get chatgpt to write that, but we (me and chatgpt) couldn't manage to get the target right, so I gave up.

[dark canopy]

if you arent touching midi for this, #macro-polo can certainly assist.

however, while im no midi user, i think its safe to say that if you are, its in your best interest to use as much of midi as possible when scripting

[frail osprey]

yeah, my idea initially was to use midi, but it seems I very much lack the knowledge to do so, and ChatGPT can't help with midi, as you stated earlier

[dark canopy]

you have the problem spelled out very well and this thread is exactly for asking questions. I've seen far more help from the folks here with far less to start from.

(not to discourage self-education or experimentation at all, just a reminder 🙂 )

[frail osprey]

That was actually very nice to hear. Most of the time, I shy away from asking things here because I feel they might sound too stupid and I don't wanna impose

[dark canopy]

I feel they might sound too stupid
oh my good sir/lady. every single person here has made just dumb statements. Myself very much included.

[violet meadow]

Testing an Item for that @frail osprey and I will share if good 😄

[frail osprey]

you are an angel!

thatlonelyangelicalbugbear should be your username

😆

[dark canopy]

thats just how this community be

full of nerd ballers

[frail osprey]

makes me regret choosing chemistry instead of programming

[charred bay]

Trying to convert my hunter's mark to v10. It is applying this effect to the caster as well as the target. I don't want it to.

[frail osprey]

I believe it always creates an effect on the caster as well, it's a way to show what's the source of the concentration

don't know if it's also needed code-wise

is the bonus damage being applied against the caster too?

[charred bay]

actually, it appears there is a global script running on the spell

when i edit the item macro on the spell

there is nothing there

but when i export the spell, i see this

any idea how to see/edit this in the ui?

[frail osprey]

you using CPR's version?

if you wanna edit the macro, I believe it'd be easier using Midi SRD's midi-QoL sample version, since it has an item macro

[toxic spruce]

Has anyone thought of a way to automate Lucky? I think it is too broad to do so, but thought I would ask 🙂
You have 3 luck points per long rest. Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw (or when an attack roll is made against you), you can spend one to roll an additional d20 and you choose which die to use. You can choose to spend luck points after you roll the die, but before the outcome is determined.

[charred bay]

midi SRD was discontinued with v9?

[static sparrow]

I think anything that's like "you can do this after you see the roll" is really tough.

I'd be very interested if there's a general solution I don't know about.

[static sparrow]

No? What makes you think that?

[frail osprey]

it's actually a Midi-QoL sample item*

[charred bay]

maybe i am thinking of DAE SRD?

[static sparrow]

DAE SRD is pretty dead, yeah. Midi SRD is where it's at.

[charred bay]

okay

[frail osprey]

there's also a DDBI version with item macro as well

but I believe all of these versions apply an effect to the caster

[scarlet gale]

That doesn't look like my version.

[frail osprey]

You're right. Where did you get that hunter's mark from, @charred bay ?

[charred bay]

dndbeyond import

[frail osprey]

but ddbi's version has an item macro 🤔

[charred bay]

i deleted it

[frail osprey]

ah, makes sense

[charred bay]

was trying to troubleshoot

[frail osprey]

I'd suggest using Chris' version, since it also creates an item in the player's sheet to allow switching the mark's target without spending a spell slot

really nice stuff

[scarlet gale]

Iirc the sample item version does some trickery to let you use the same spell without messing with spell slots.

[frail osprey]

really? didn't notice that! That sounds awesome!

[short aurora]

What module or view is that?

[frail osprey]

Alpha Suit (module)

pretty useful when you have to skip from one compendium to another all the time

[short aurora]

Appreciated

[coarse mesa]

@sleek glacier I imported our Soulknife uisng DDB Importer so everything is there but there is no special automation. I’ve been hoping Bugbear would help me with Psychic Whispers but he hasn’t taken the bait yet. I’m sure he could whip up an itemMacro in less than 5 mins with a beverage in one hand 👀 😅

[toxic spruce]

I was surprised I couldn't find 'Blade Ward'. Is there something similar that I could copy from?
You extend your hand and trace a sigil of warding in the air. Until the end of your next turn, you have resistance against bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage dealt by weapon attacks.

[strong yew]

That's gotta be somewhere

Looks like CPR has it

[sudden crane]

That’s pretty easy, it should be feasible with just an active effect with the proper flags. It similar to the ones used by rage

[strong yew]

Yeah, I think dfreds might have it too?

[frail osprey]

yeah, you can copy rage and just set the duration to 1 turn

[strong yew]

nope nvm it does not

[toxic spruce]

Perfect! TY 🙂

[sudden crane]

1 round and one turn, and to make sure, special duration end of next turn

[toxic spruce]

I looked too 🙂

[frail osprey]

ah, and, obviously, remove the bonus damage from rage, hahahahah

and the advantage too, lol

[digital lagoon]

My Dice stopped showing to my players when using MidiQOL. I checked the option to show on attacks using the GHOST DICE but it isn't showing.

[short aurora]

Was there a way to apply tempHP on an effect application with DAE or Midi without a macro or should it still be macro?

[hot flower]

are we g2g on midi and DAE now?

(sorry, been away all day)

[sleek glacier]

Fine ^^ if you hear something about it, ping me 😄 Will made some sort of weapons for now. May need a way for bolstered knack and charge one dice with psionic power too ^^

[frail osprey]

sooo, my player has this, any way to automate it?

[toxic spruce]

I have this ability, it works, but it keeps damaging self, and I don't want it to. Am I missing a setting?

[static sparrow]

Pretty easy to do with a hook.

You can hook on rest completion and then decrement exhaustion.

[frail osprey]

will try this

[static sparrow]

    const currExhaustion = actor.system.attributes.exhaustion;
    await actor.update({"system.attributes.exhaustion" : currExhaustion - 1});
});```

You'll need to check to make sure actor actually has the Tireless feature, and someone else will probably have a better idea of where to actually run the call to hook the event (I've been doing onRest hooks in my world script), but that's the basics, I guess.

[frail osprey]

how does it recognizes it's a short rest and not a long one? (trying to learn)

[static sparrow]

result has that information, you'll want something like
if(result.longRest) return;
before declaring currExhaustion.

result.longRest is true on a long rest and false otherwise.

[frail osprey]

ooh, I see, makes sense! Thank you!!

[static sparrow]

If you use the debugger to step into the function there, you can see all the data that result has.

[coarse mesa]

Will do. I think Knack will be really hard because you only use the dice if you pass, which means the GM would have to put the DC in for it to be automatic.

[sleek glacier]

you only use it when you fail... but youre right, may better do it manually

[static sparrow]

Lukas means it only consumes the die if it turns the failure into a success.

[coarse mesa]

Sorry yeah had it backwards. It could pop a dialog asking if you passed/failed and uses the charge accordingly. But yeah still pretty manual

[sleek glacier]

for now i just make a psyonic dice, which he clicks and rolls a 1d6 for this purpose

a little ot but do psychic blades the same dmg if thrown?

[frail osprey]

Just leaving this here in case someone ever needs to automate Ranger's Deft Explorer feat.
The macro is as follows:
Hooks.on("dnd5e.restCompleted", async (actor, result) => { let effect = actor.effects.find(effect => effect.data.label === "Tireless"); if (result.longRest) return; if (effect) { const currExhaustion = actor.system.attributes.exhaustion; await actor.update({ "system.attributes.exhaustion": currExhaustion - 1 }); } });

I'd recommend leaving it inside your world scripter compendium

[violet meadow]

@frail osprey
1 . Create a DAE on the Item with:
a. Transfer to actor on equip checked,
b. Effect key:macro.itemMacro, mode:Custom
2. Copy paste the macro in the Item's Itemmacro,
3. Change the name in the second line of the macro to match the created Item's name (inside the "" here const itemName = "attacked AC against attacker"; //change to the actual feature's name)
4. Put that Item on the Actor,
5. Attack that Actor in combat.

Link to the actual macro: <#1010273821401555087 message>

[frail osprey]

that was a LOOOOOT of code, man, I really apreciate you doing this for me. Is it ok if I test this later? I'm about to go out.

[violet meadow]

Tryin some new ways of shipping macros in Items so that was a good exercise. It seems to work from some quick tests 😄

If that feature is on multiple Actors, better change the name of it to be unique.

[frail osprey]

You're great! I'll try it out later and let you know how it worked, but I believe it'll probably work fine.

[violet meadow]

well different settings in MidiQOL might make it a bit touch and go but will see 😉

[violet meadow]

Found an issue, will upload a new one later

[vast bane]

Actaully Chat GPT is great to use, just don't use it to write the code fully. It is a smart syntax cleaner and if you type word for word what folks like you tell us in discord, it will know what you are saying when we actually don't and it learns off what you guys say. I totally made 2 complex automations off leveraging chat GPT and just asking a few questions in macro polo. My shieldmaster and dual wielder feats were made with chat GPT. It will default to 2 year old foundry code but if you tell it all the mistakes it will rewrite with the new functions instead. It literally learns from its mistakes.

[strong yew]

Man, I cannot get duration to copy over

Feels like something is overriding it

Output it into the log and it seems like it should work, but then when I reapply, it just resets back to full timer

[dark canopy]

an IDE with syntax recognition is most of that.

I stand by my statement -- if you must use AI assistance, at least use something like github copilot which is intended for programming help (same idea, type a comment and it suggests the answer, just..like...actually intended for this stuff)

[violet meadow]

share the snippet you're using?

[vast bane]

Its the same AI as chat GPT

probably the version 4 version which is why its behind a paywall

[dark canopy]

i stand by my statement, but we are veering off track 😅

[strong yew]

So each turn it rerolls the macro to change form.

    let effectData = {
        changes: [
            { key: "ATL.light.bright", value: "10", mode: 5, priority: null }],
        origin: starry.uuid,
        disabled: false,
        duration: { "seconds": 600, "duration": 600, "remaining": 600, "label": "600Seconds"},
        icon: starry.img,
        label: starry.name,
        flags: { 
                    effectmacro: { onDelete: { script: chrisPremades.helpers.functionToString(effectMacro) }}
                }
    }
    let existing = warpgate.mutationStack(token.document).getName(starry.name);
    if (existing){
        let lastEffect = chrisPremades.helpers.findEffect(actor, Object.keys(existing.delta.embedded.ActiveEffect)[0]);
        effectData.duration = duplicate(lastEffect.duration);
        console.log(effectData.duration);
        await warpgate.revert(token.document, starry.name);
    }

So it checks to see if a mutation already exists by the expected name on the token, if so, it gets the effect, then I was just trying to duplicate the duration and push that to my effectData before then applying the mutation later on

[dark canopy]

        let lastEffect = chrisPremades.helpers.findEffect(actor, Object.keys(existing.delta.embedded.ActiveEffect)[0]);

this looks all kinds of sus

[strong yew]

lol, it is a little odd I know. I have the effect name change to include the form name

And the effect name is included there, so I figured that was the simplest way to reliably grab it

[scarlet gale]

I feel like at that point you just don't use that helper lol

[strong yew]

It's just finding it by name in the helper yeah? The name changes depending on the form so I'm just grabbing the name from the key on the warpgate stuff

[scarlet gale]

I guess if it works

[strong yew]

I could just have it named "starry form" and simplify it, but I just liked having the effect title match the form you're in

[gilded yacht]

Shout out to anyone playing with the experimental undo workflow feature. It really is EXPERIMENTAL and because it makes wholesale changes to actors to restore the state do not use it in a real game.

[scarlet gale]

@dark canopy Can a temporary mutation be changed into a permanent one?

As in lock in the changes that have been made.

[violet meadow]

so is there some disconnect between where you define the effectData.duration and where you actually use that effectData?
What does that console.log give you there?

[strong yew]

So, outputting it to console log shows it being set correctly, and here is it output the line before my mutate

[scarlet gale]

As a thought experiment, if mutation could be made a permanent change, I feel like that would be a potential way to make an "undo" feature. (Ignoring the fact that there would have to be some under the hood changes to make use of warpgate)

[vast bane]

is there an existing CE by the same name and you forgot to toggle don't apply ce?

[dark canopy]

yea, deleteAll https://trioderegion.github.io/warpgate/MutationStack.html#deleteAll

[violet meadow]

I am excited. It seems that we are 1 step closer to saves against specific conditions with advantage and such shenanigans when the 10.0.42 drops 😉 🥳

[vast bane]

You don't use CPR do you lol?

Chris already wrote that into CPR as long as your conditions are dfreds CE's

[scarlet gale]

That's not quite the same

[vast bane]

he did Conditional resistance and conditional vulnerability

[strong yew]

nope

[violet meadow]

Well, I meant offered intrinsically in MidiQOL without that caveat

[vast bane]

I kinda hope he reverses the crunching of multiple statusEffects

I have stopped using the wrench entirely because of statusEffect combining conditions

[violet meadow]

make it macro.CE

[vast bane]

yeah but all the other options in the drop down of the wrench are statusEffect by default

I'd have to use the new option in the drop down and manually write it out

or edit the key I suppose, but thats my point

[violet meadow]

I am missing something 🤔

[vast bane]

I just don't see the benefit of combining statusEffects into one

[strong yew]

No duration info on the item itself either. I have no idea where it's coming from. Everything looks correct the line before I mutate

[scarlet gale]

I find it misleading

[vast bane]

I think it was done to save space on tokens, but nowadays you can use modules like TVA to auto hide

[scarlet gale]

I'd rather have a bunch of icons for all the conditions

[violet meadow]

Can you share the mutation code too?

[strong yew]

    let updates = {
        'embedded': {
            'ActiveEffect': {
                [`${starry.name}: ${form}`]: effectData
            }
        },
    };
    let details = {
        'permanent': false,
        'name': starry.name,
        'description': starry.name
    };
    console.log(effectData);
    console.log(updates);
    await warpgate.mutate(token.document, updates, {}, details);     

to two console.logs just before the mutate show the correct values for the duration

but it just resets to max when applied

[violet meadow]

@frail osprey here ya go. The macro part for an Item - Defensive Tactics: Multiattack Defense

You can change the first 4 lines to what makes sense for you, labels and icon.

But itemName needs to be the same like the created Item's (feature probably) name.

[violet meadow]

drop the duplicate and try again.

[strong yew]

Same issue unfortunately. Here's what shows for console.log(updates) followed by the actual effect when inspected

Just applies it as if new even with duration set like that in the effectdata

For a refresher, if I edit effect.changes, I have to mutate the entire thing right? Can't add like 3 changes and then revert/etc?

[scarlet gale]

Why not just do an effect update?

You'll still need to update the entire changes part.

[strong yew]

Yeah, that's what I'm working on now

It's how I originally did it, just was exploring trying different ways to accomplish it

[frail osprey]

didn't work 😢

[violet meadow]

any errors?

[frail osprey]

none 😐

wait, there might be some, lemme check again

[violet meadow]

there seem to be some issues with the comparison and the mutation. log the actual return of the mutation and take a look

duration is strange.

[frail osprey]

yeah, no errors

[violet meadow]

You need to first hit the defender.
Then it should create an Active Effect on the Attacker and during the subsequent attacks an AE for +4 AC will be added for 1 Attack on the Defender (and deleted almost instantly based on your MidiQOL settings)

[violet meadow]

Import this item as a Feature.

This will give a +500 to AC to make it more obvious 😄

[frail osprey]

how do I do that?

[violet meadow]

Save the above locally.
Foundry right sidebar, Items, Create new Item, select Type: Feature and right click the newly created item to import data.

[frail osprey]

ah!

my DAE wasn't configured correctly

now it's working like a charm!

Yeah, I edited the DAE after it was already on the actor instead of editing before giving it to the actor

so it didn't add this second key

this is sooooo awesome! Thank you very, very, very, very much, thatlonelybugbear!!! ❤️

[coarse mesa]

The midi-SRD/DDBI Faerie Fire is a bit busted with the new ATL... what are folks here using?

I'll just use the CE 🙂

[eager ferry]

Hi all, i've been looking online for a way to add "creature type specific" bonus damage to a weapon. I keep seeing references to MidiQOL and DAE but im lost

[random jolt]

What is this error??

field.dataset is undefined?

99% sure this error is coming from midqol

[vast bane]

just change the ATL key

[vast bane]

f12 and open the console and repeat whats causing it and show us the real error

[coarse mesa]

Nah it’s not that it’s the itemmacro to select the light color. I just yeeted it and the CE works great

[vast bane]

you using the new midi srd?

model validation error happens when an atl key is using the old v9 keys

[coarse mesa]

The one bugbear posted a few months back, not any sort of insider beta

Is there a better one to use?

[vast bane]

I just use the old one with the new atl key

I actually don't think its done right

faerie fire is suppose to suppress the invisible condition on failed saves

[random jolt]

The game is over and the error was happining to a player... I am going to have to get back here once we can reproduce the error again... Thx for your support.

[vast bane]

How hard would it be to have a chat message fire in a whisper to a player if their assigned actor ever gains a specific condition? I was thinking of doing on creation effect macros on all the dfreds CE conditions I want and have it be if name doesn't equal X, return. Otherwise chat message yada yada?

actually I thik chat gpt can do this for me

[coarse mesa]

How would that work? It’s easy enough to remove it, but suppress?

[vast bane]

suspend it

just simply have the item macro on faerie fire check if failed save, then set any invisible conditions to suspended

and add a suspended invisible to them as well to prevent future invis's

[molten solar]

return ChatMessage.create({
  whisper: game.users.reduce((acc, u) => {
    if(actor.testUserPermission(u, "OWNER")) acc.push(u.id);
    return acc;
  }, []),
  content: `${actor.name} is under the effect of ${effect.label}`
});

[coarse mesa]

Nice. What are you thinking of using this for Moto? Is it supposed to be secret? Would have to kill the scrolling text

[vast bane]

Two of my players are members of the Emerald Enclave and their boss gave them charms of restoration. I based all their faction features around this charm. One of its features is a reaction that their patron takes in combat, not them, that if they ever become under any effect that lesser or greater restoration can remove, they can have Jeryth(or Wyllow) immediately expend charges of the Charm to remove the effect from them. This spell is considered cast at level 9 and is not cast by the owner of the charm, but instead a spectral image of either entities beside the owner of the charm.

So my low expectation idea is to just have the various conditions in CE have an effect macro on creation to spit out a whisper if the actor who gets the effect is the druid or cleric. Reminding them they can elect to use charges to remove the condition.

High expectation is a dialog prompt instead where they say yes or no to using the charm and if yes, it expends the charges on the charm and removes said effect.

but Dialogs....are the debil

I know I could probably do this all in a world script too, but I feel since I know what 6-8 conditions they'd be, I could just put it on the conditions themselves

[molten solar]

Look for Dialog.prompt in #macro-polo

[vast bane]

Yeah I'm gonna dive into this in about 3ish hours I'm startin work on a friday always crazy for the first few hours

do you think theres a difference in performance between doing a world script for it or doing just the 6ish effect macros on my dfreds CEs?

[molten solar]

The difference, if any, will at worst not even be noticeable.

EM basically is a world script already

[vast bane]

I'm gonna go the effect macro route just cause I have better luck making the macros in it since the helpers are easier to fiddle with

specially if I go the high expectation route, since the effect macro is already on the actor theres no permissions issues or a reason to need to leverage midi

[molten solar]

All the work for the world script has already been done in EM, yeah

Runs only for 1 user, etc

[atomic badge]

How's that writeup going? I'm super curious as to what you've got cooking. 👀

[violet meadow]

soonish ™️ 😅

[atomic badge]

Haha, take your time! I'm just curious since I want to learn as much as possible from any and all code that is available in this community.

[vast bane]

sadly there is a problem with the third party janky reactions

they are not removing themselves

Clearly its not a permenant effect:

my only thought to fix this is to have on effect deletion have effect macro search for the temporary item and attempt to delete it also to account for macro.createItem failing

I think it has something to do with actors on aother maps being in the aura still

[short aurora]

What's the janky third party reactions again? Auras that creates reaction item on the affected?

[dark canopy]

why would the item creation fail?

[vast bane]

I can't tell what causes the failure to remove, I think its just a live session lag issue but I caught one player character with 10 of them on them, the rest had none and I can't reproduce now alone in session

it seems to remove the item when the aura leaves them and when they leave the aura

[vast bane]

the normal behavior of the key is that you only have the item while the active effect is on you, so we macguyvered this setup into active auras and it seems to work but I'm reporting some sort of anomaly, I'll have more info after tonights session as now I know to look for it.

To be clear, the setup is already ill-advised but my middle name is janky for a reason.

I suspect maybe the issue is that I chose to make it a consumable instead of a feature maybe theres something about items since they can stack

I needed a way to make it poof on use so I just went super jank and made it a consumable with 1 charge that destroys on empty lol

[strong yew]

So, potentially dumb question here. I noticed on some items I can roll them and then it goes into like a targeting mode if I don't have one selected

Thought that was Late Targeting, but I toggled that on in midi settings but it doesn't seem to affect all items

[short aurora]

Do you use Argon?

[strong yew]

Is there like a toggle/flag or something that allows for that

Yeah I use Argon

[short aurora]

They have a feature like that

Might be that and not midi at all

[strong yew]

Ah interesting, let me see if it's there

Was it just recently introduced? I don't remember it working that way

[dark canopy]

if only there were changelogs 😩

[short aurora]

Ripper had a video showing Bless recently as in this year, that's about all I can remember

[vast bane]

also late targetting in midi only works for specific stuff too

[strong yew]

If I could read I wouldn't be here

[vast bane]

should be in the tooltip/note for late targetting

[dark canopy]

modules that provide good documentation and changelogs are generally in your best interest to patron. Why guess and dig through code for opaque modules when plenty exist that provide that information properly.

[short aurora]

It purdy recent actually #package-releases message

[strong yew]

You're absolutely right, it's argon

[vast bane]

I wonder if that setting is incompatible with midi at all in argon

[strong yew]

I wonder if I can hijack that even if I'm rolling somewhere other than argon

Gonna look

[vast bane]

just use midi's

[short aurora]

I recall asking or someone else did, it was apparently only for special actions and something you could toggle off? So I think it's fine

[strong yew]

I just started using the VAE button for effect abilities

[vast bane]

midi's late targetting is pretty dope, the things it doesn't work with typically shouldn't matter, you don't target with self items and templates auto target, and aoe's should auto target if you set them right

[short aurora]

Argon's targeting "hud" for multiple targets (like Bless) is pretty dope though, I was impressed and wanted to use Argon from it

[vast bane]

the very first two drop downs in workflow tab handle the targetting for the types of item rolls that late targetting doesn't handle:

Someones gonna finally take up the mantle of trying to fix upcasting target scaling and magic missile/scorching ray/eldritch blast.

I actually was pondering making a list of those spells, hold person, command, bane, bless, all have target limits on them that break upcasting

was gonna suggest to midi SRD to take out the target limits

[short aurora]

Weird question I have a hard time phrasing; if not going for the jank route of third party reactions and I want the player with the actual feature to decide, does anyone have an idea how "efficient" active-aura is in their auras? I'm making Fighting Style: Protection; when a creature you can see attacks a target, other than you, that is within 5 feet of you, you can use your reaction to impose disadvantage on the attack roll.

I know a worldscript is necessary, but I'm wondering if an active-auras' effect should be what I'm filtering for in that script or if I should do my own filtering to determine if someone is eligible

[vast bane]

You could also just make the player with that fighting style remember they have it and purposely slow down combat so that they can fire it before you start your attacks

you also can do the new BUTT undo(is that what we're calling it @coarse mesa ) and then redo the attack at disadvantage.

[dark canopy]

performing a DB operation simply to flag a token being near another is pretty heavy.

You can use the token's PIXI bounds object, expand it by half a grid square, then collect any placeables that intersect it and have an easy to lookup flag/datum to inspect

[vast bane]

I kinda feel active auras should really be used as last resorts and in low frequency. It has a pretty awful performance rating in live sessions.

[short aurora]

I don't know the extent of what is a DB operation or not; I would need to check the actor/token's data for flight data™, does that constitute one or would I still save processing power looking at PIXI instead?

[dark canopy]

a DB operation is anything that would sync state to other users, in practice

i.e. adding any kind of permanent actor data, like an AE

[short aurora]

Ah, that's a really good descriptor, got it in one

[dark canopy]

pretty sure a lot of the issues related to the chain of modules used in midi and the frequent failures/desync/latency seen are a result of abusing DB operations

[violet meadow]

There will be at some point some 3rd party Reaction management infrastructure either in MidiQOL or around.
For now Activation Conditions for Reactions (meaning the Reaction fires or gets picked up by the Reactions dialog only if certain conditions are met) should be coming soon ™️ (maybe 10.0.42 midi)

[short aurora]

I realized the first hurdle is creating some reaction management system in general, did dnd5e helpers store actions used per actor or was it per player? maybe time to steal

[dark canopy]

per token

[austere basin]

Good morning everyone, trying to make an item using DAEs macro to create an item using an ActiveEffect but having no luck. Does anyone know the value I should put in here? eg. macro.createItemRunMacro CUSTOM uuid macro? Please see the Macro also attached

const BREATH_WEAPON_DRACONIC_TRANSFORMATION= {
label: "Breath Weapon",
icon: "icons/mystery-man.svg",
transfer: true,
};
const item = await Item.create({
name: "Breath weapon",
type: "Natural",
})
await item.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [BREATH_WEAPON_DRACONIC_TRANSFORMATION]);

let actor = game.actors.getName("My actor")
await actor.createEmbededDocuments("Item", [item.data])

I tried @DB7uCLURrToHEWdi which is the UUID as the only arg but it was saying it couldnt find it

[dark canopy]

that is the ID

uuid is longer

(right click header button to get uuid)

[austere basin]

oh, wait a moment -- its right click

🤦‍♂️

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL has the needed infrastructure or some helpers for that. I will share something when I am back later

[short aurora]

macro.createItemRunMacro is a flag to create a copy of an item and then run that item's ItemMacro, did you intentionally mean to use that?

[vast bane]

just drag it to the effect value

unless you need to run a special macro event on the item creation you should be using macro.createItem

personally, I don't even use the runmacro key, I just use effect macro

its just easier

RunMacro makes you have to put something in the created items item macro and if the created item already has its own automation you are editing an existing automation and have to worry about double variables

[short aurora]

tposney added it for me to parse arguments between the created items and the macro, essentially

Well, "for me", I made an issue to request it :p

[austere basin]

Nevermind, I used createItem instead and it seems to be working now

Thought I had to use RunMacro due to the documentation providing a sample macro for creating an item

[vast bane]

you drag and drop to macro.createItems

[austere basin]

seems its not needed

[vast bane]

I have a video for this

[austere basin]

@vast bane Your solution worked

[vast bane]

the only time I needed to also run a macro was to make an item attune/equip when it comes on them

and for that I do effect macros

on creation effect macros

the cool thing about the runmacro key is that it gives you the item to define easier I think

in effect macro I have to edit every one I use to give it the item I'm working off of

cause theres no helpers in effect macro for an item it has nothing to do with

[dark canopy]

(flag the actor with the needed UUID, rather than editing every single macro)

[austere basin]

Ok so its adding successfully now!! :) One last thing, it doesnt seem to be auto equipping when adding to inventory -- anyway around this? I tried setting 'Equipped' to on in the item itself but with no luck

[short aurora]

dnd5e (and Midi mimicking that behavior) resets the status of items like that, it would need a macro

[austere basin]

@short aurora Ok, thanks! You guys are awesome :D

[vast bane]

lol scroll up I just explained thats why I use effect macro and its kinda the purpose of the other key too

RunMacro key lets you run the macro on the created item, if you reference a macropass of whatever the new pass is for created items then it will just run that part of the macro which is useful if your created item already has its own automation for stuff

I personally found it too confusing so I just use effect macro

just getName the newly created item and update the docuement with attunement/equipped.

[short aurora]

If you do want an item created by macro.CreateItem to auto equip, change the flag to macro.createItemRunMacro and in the item that you're creating a copy of, add this snippet to its' itemMacro at the top;

if (args[0] == "onCreate"){
  const itemToEquip = await fromUuid(args[1].itemUuid);
  await itemToEquip.update({"system.equipped": true});
};```

[vast bane]

whats the macro pass you setup if the item already has a macro?

bugbears shared it but he posts too many macros to try and find it again lol.

[strong yew]

oh no. I found a crititcal midiqol issue

[short aurora]

onCreate, so

if (args[0] == "onCreate"){
// do the thing
};```

[strong yew]

unusable

[vast bane]

where is this setting?

[short aurora]

I forgot to ping, if you want auto equip, the item can be setup like this: #1010273821401555087 message

[strong yew]

midiqol general settings for critical settings

[vast bane]

whats wrong with it?

[short aurora]

🐦

[strong yew]

Crititcal instead of Critical.

Upsetting I know

[vast bane]

lol

you got me

doesn't he also suggest using the core setting instead?

i swear he said this at some point and thats why he probably hasn't looked at it in a while lol

do editors not have spellcheck also?

[short aurora]

Strings are just taken as is

[austere basin]

@short aurora Something like this?

[vast bane]

that item is not in a compendium make sure you dont delete it from the sidebar

[short aurora]

You're missing a module called Item Macro, adds a tab where you need to put in the macro I wrote on the item that's to be created

[austere basin]

ooh damn, ok ill go ahead and install it

[short aurora]

It's the best module

[vast bane]

I wonder if you can reference a folder macro for this?

[austere basin]

@short aurora That makes alot more sense now LOL

[vast bane]

turn off character sheet hooks in item macro settings when you install it

[short aurora]

Specifically for macro.createItemRunMacro, it runs the itemMacro and that's just a flag on the item. https://gitlab.com/tposney/dae#creating-items-with-dae

[violet meadow]

it is crit it cal(culation) 👏

[molten solar]

(do they actually use midi?)

[winter halo]

I have a question. There are quite a few spells that have this "At the end of the target turn, repeat the saving throw" kind of thing. How do I make that happen with DAE?

[vast bane]

they are literally using an item macro to call in midiqol referencing args so I'd say yeah

[vast bane]

technically you don't do that with dae, you do it with midi, go to its readme and search for "overtime", read that section of the readme, then go into midi sample items and look at hold person and the regeneration premades for examples of how to use them. I also have a cheat sheet for overtimes in the pin's wiki here

[winter halo]

thank you 🙂

[vast bane]

that reminds me I need to add the new option in 37 to the overtime cheat sheet

Here is my cheat sheet since I am finished updating and have it handy:
https://github.com/MotoMoto1234/Midi-Wiki/wiki/Overtime-Cheat-Sheet

[celest bluff]

Times up module adds these functions to dae

[vast bane]

its designed for you to go down it and copy/paste each line that you need, the last one at the bottom is almost always used so the label=has no comma on purpose.

[celest bluff]

In addition to midis overtime. Depending on what you're looking for.

[winter halo]

I have this as Effect Value: " turn=end,
saveAbility=wis,
saveDC=@attributes.spelldc,
label=Tasha's Hideous Laughter ", with change mode override und attribute key flag.midi-qol.OverTime. but it isn'T working. I have some mistake even if copied it basically from hold person

[vast bane]

This is normally where I suggest midi SRD, but I know for a fact Midi SRD's version is broken

That is a correct overtime so the problem is probably before the overtime, either you aren't transferring the effect or you aren't rolling with midiqol

you should be putting conditions in it too

[winter halo]

It should transfer as I find it in de effects of my test target

the conditions are in it those are working. just the overtime not

[vast bane]

are you in combat?

were you when you applied it

[winter halo]

yes

[vast bane]

show me all three tabs of the effect on the test actor's effect tab

[winter halo]

ah mom

[vast bane]

thats not the right one

I wanted the test actors effect

[winter halo]

that is the spell i know I send it the moment you asked in what we in germany call Vorauseilendem Gehorsam :Done moment

[vast bane]

(Editing active effects on actors are not experimental for anyone curious how I know)

[winter halo]

this what you meant?

[short aurora]

Is the broken part that the DC is 0?

[vast bane]

I fixed the no macro version myself, the dc 0 is whats broken for the macro one for sure

he fixed it in his version but he's holding onto midi srd till midi has a new set of stable versions

The fix for the non macro version was to fix the weird overtime commands, it has an error in it in two spots

in the macro its a whole bunch of problems

[vast bane]

so are you saying that this overtime effect is doing nothing in game?

does the actor have an actual turn in combat?

[winter halo]

yes he has, nothing happens at the end of the turn

[vast bane]

can you show me your workflow button/workflow tab/saves section?

[winter halo]

you mean the workflow in my midi settings?

[vast bane]

the macro works soundly if it could be fed the DC right, it definitely prompts fine, it just is not getting the castdata or something right.

so it auto succeeds on first hit

[vast bane]

yes

I suspect your saves are not automated and/or you have them set to a module you do not have installed

[winter halo]

that could be it but my pc makes shit at the moment....windows and so on.might be a few minutes

[proper siren]

Hey yall, does midi have a hook for on token delete or similar? I'm trying to update some wild shape stuff to remove the wild shape effect if they drop to 0 hp

[vast bane]

Wildshape is all sorts of messy in midi, I personally do not use core wildshape and warpgate summon the shapes and auto hide the druids token, and I check the general midi setting where she can still use her druid token while its gm hidden for the oddball cases of using druid features in shape form

when her shape dies I just unhide the druid token

[vast bane]

is the person affected by the laughter a player?

[winter halo]

nop is a npc

[vast bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cbsnews-election-2020-cbs-news-second-presidential-debate-8v6Z3YyULB5Q0Skbac

I am genuinely stumped, so the overtime does nothing when you advance the turn?

[winter halo]

yes

[vast bane]

does hold person do anything?

[winter halo]

I get the message Abjurer (the npc) is incapacitated" in yellow up on the top part of my screen at the end of its turn and thats it

[vast bane]

oh shit

wow that is a hilarious bug

that is HILARIOUS

lol this is actually going to break a ton of premades

Tposney put the wrong option as the default

this has probably been broken since midi 37

[winter halo]

I am not sure I can follow 😄

[vast bane]

add this line, before the last one:

allowIncapacitated=true,

I think he needs to revisit this setting lol

the default is false, apparently, and your overtime is literally incapacitating them

several premade items now need to have this added to their overtimes to work

[short aurora]

That's a good catch Moto, it's the setting in Mechanics that's making it act like that, yeah.

You can also toggle that off as a solution, but prob worth an issue to tposney to overlook that setting for overtimes?

[vast bane]

can you confirm what version of midiqol you are on?

[winter halo]

one moment

[vast bane]

in midi 37 theres an added option to overtimes, I dunno if its related to your checkbox

[winter halo]

10.0.39 I think

[vast bane]

I genuinely think he added the wrong one as the default in overtime

[winter halo]

I test it now. You meant I should add allowIncapacitated=true, before label right?

yes that was it

[vast bane]

I'm on the end of the day here so tired but I think overtime right now consideredds the default false, and he needs to reverse it in the next version of midi so that we don't all have to edit a ton of overtimes

[vast bane]

turn=end,
saveDC=@attributes.spelldc,
saveAbility=wis,
allowIncapacitated=true,
label=Hideous Laughter

[dark canopy]

To answer your question. Core fires a hook for this

[proper siren]

Gotcha, I've got a solid macro from crymic that I've been modifying, everything works well except when the wildshape animal dies, the wild shape effect icon on the base player isn't removed. I've tried different effect macros and daeonupdatetarget but the polymorph ending doesn't seem to have a solid hook, nothing I've used is even firing

[winter halo]

I feel like I learned a lot today. Once again, you helped me a lot Moto thank you.

[short aurora]

Rolling an overtime with a saving throw(?) is seen as an action/reaction by the setting I posted, so to not be hindered by that rule, it needs allowIncapacitated=true and default seems false.

[vast bane]

thats a good catch it would have totally bonked me tonight for my session

[vast bane]

yeah I didn't ever see it cause I too have that box checked:

[dark canopy]

Please try to address the question before offering a completely different approach.

[vast bane]

Does crymics wildshape macro actually use wildshape though?

[dark canopy]

No idea, but there is a hook that fires for the question asked

[short aurora]

Crymic does some stuff, but a world script will probably be required to catch this instance. I think updateActor is the best for it? You can always either go into console and use CONFIG.debug.hooks = true or put Midi's debug levels to ALL (does the same thing) to have a peek at what's firing when you do what.

You can't even hook.once 'cause it's not like a hook fires from a token or actor, so you have to look through them all and filter down to what fits your wild shape bear

[proper siren]

fyi-it uses polymorph. I think I found the hook for it as well so gunna take a shot at it here shortly

[vast bane]

Hooks.on('midi-qol.RollComplete', async workflow => {
    if (workflow.hitTargets.size != 1) return;
    let targetToken = workflow.targets.first();
    if (!targetToken) return;
    let targetActor = targetToken.actor;
    if (!targetActor) return;
    let targetEffect = targetActor.effects.find(eff => eff.label === 'Symbiotic Entity');
    if (!targetEffect) return;
    let tempHP = targetActor.system.attributes.hp.temp;
    if (tempHP != 0) return;
    MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM("removeEffects", {'actorUuid': targetActor.uuid, effects: [targetEffect.id]});
});

only works if the damage to 0 is done via midiqol

also oddly I think it only works if shes the only target?

obv change the tempHP to hp

this is the same concept only for the spores druid version

you could probably automate the deletion of the shape too with this hook

[proper siren]

Lol, it was all do-able in args=off so I'm an idiot, although I'm not sure why he didn't add anything for that.. all good though! Now if I could just figure out how to get it to transfer damage to the base actor on hp damage over the wildshapes limit I'd be all good

[violet meadow]

Are you doing that via an AE? It can have a DAE special duration of zero hp

[violet meadow]

What are you using this hook for? 🤔

[proper siren]

Yeah it is but got that piece figured out, if you've got any suggestions for applying damage to the base character if the damage exceeds the polymorphed actors total that would be awesome though 😁

[sudden crane]

I am playing with Destructive Wave automation and I would like your opinion on the expected behavior.
The spell says you choose which creatures are affected by the spell in a 30’ radius around the caster. Apart from a dialog for choosing the damage type, would you also list all the creatures in the 30’ with a checkbox to allow the caster to choose?

Select by default those with a different disposition

[violet meadow]

Get the damage of the workflow

I didn't mean to send that like so 😅

But will send something over later

[strong yew]

So for min10 on concentration, there's not really a better option I have than this flag right? flags.midi-qol.min.ability.save.con

I know it's Con vs concentration, but I couldn't find anything else that would work here

[strong yew]

That seems like a good way to handle it. Automates it enough for convenience but also leaves it up to player choice

[strong yew]

    let changes = [
        { key: "ATL.light.bright", value: "10", mode: 5, priority: null },
        { key: "ATL.light.dim", value: "20", mode: 5, priority: null },
        { key: "ATL.light.color", value: "#ffffff", mode: 5, priority: null },
        { key: "ATL.light.alpha", value: "0.25", mode: 5, priority: null },
        { key: "ATL.light.animation", value: "{\"type\": \"starlight\", \"speed\": 1,\"intensity\": 3}", mode: 5, priority: null }]

Also, is there a better way for me to do this?

Like, could I consolidate this somehow into less effects? Go about it a different way?

[scarlet gale]

Could do it as a mutation on the token I suppose

[strong yew]

Any benefit of doing that over having it in the effect? Or is it just personal preference really?

[scarlet gale]

Not really

Just giving another option

Since I think you're already doing a mutation

[vast bane]

when the druids temp hp drops to 0, symbiotic entity enhancements fade

[scarlet gale]

Probably a better way to do that

But it's not the worst way

[vast bane]

I think you made it for me lol

[scarlet gale]

I think you stole that from my AoA

[coarse mesa]

If I have an item that’s applying an AE to all targets, and I need to update the AE’s duration after the fact using an itemmacro, would this need some socketing for non GMs to work? If so, is there an example of something remotely similar I can copy?

(I’m determined to get Psychic Whispers going before our next session) 😓

[dark canopy]

If effecting unowned tokens, yes. Warp gate can help with that as usual

[strong yew]

Is this Soul Knife?

If so, share it with me if you get it working

[coarse mesa]

Yeah it seems straightforward enough but I’ve never really dabbled in midi macros (or wg for that matter). Just need to roll the psychic die (scale value dice), then apply an AE to all targets with the duration based on the the die roll. Or let the item or CE apply the AEs and just update the duration from the macro 🤷‍♂️

If anyone knows of a good midi itemmacro that applies AEs to all targets I can dissect that might get me close enough

[violet meadow]

Just an AE to the targets?

[coarse mesa]

Self and targets to be precise

It’s an empty AE, purely so everyone can keep track of how long the psychic connection lasts

[violet meadow]

I am out so if no-one helps I will later on 😀

[coarse mesa]

The tricky part is the duration is the same for everyone, otherwise we could just put it in the AE but then it rolls for each application

[vast bane]

So what are we really calling the rewind button, apparently BUTT is not going to stick

[strong yew]

I just finished reworking starry form, I may take a look at it

[coarse mesa]

What could possibly need reworking?

[coarse mesa]

Well, the B was for Bugbear’s

[violet meadow]

And a good thing that it won't stick 😁

[vast bane]

TUTT?

[strong yew]

Was reworking it to submit for CPR. Also a lot of the code was duplicated unnecessarily

Went from like 277 lines to like 93 lol

[violet meadow]

I do not envy what tposney is going through to get it working

[coarse mesa]

Nice! Chris is being inundated with requests, I’m sure he’d be glad of the help

[vast bane]

I should submit Invulnerability to him lol

[short aurora]

Does it use any resources or like that?

[strong yew]

It uses a psionic die

[short aurora]

.. "or like that", I just woke up. No clue what that would encompass.

[coarse mesa]

Yep, annoyingly you get it for free once per day, and then a psychic die after that

[strong yew]

or whatever the resource is called. Similar to battle master die

[coarse mesa]

It seems built to thwart FVTT

I think the Soulknife will get a big rewrite now WotC is making their own VTT. Some of the other features only expend dice if you fail etc… it’s a nightmare

[vast bane]

welp heading into silent mode for my 6 hour session

[strong yew]

Are they not just removing certain subclasses?

I doubt I'll see Stars druid in Dndone

Which is sad because it's a great subclass

[coarse mesa]

They’ll make a comeback in a new book for sure

Too much money to be made

Many of the Tasha’s subclasses are super popular

[coarse mesa]

Good luck with those hundreds of Tidy5E hooks 😅

[violet meadow]

Psychic whispers right?

[coarse mesa]

Yes indeed

I assume I’ll need to make it two items, one a daily and one that uses charges of your die pool 😑

[violet meadow]

🙀 of course not. What are we

[coarse mesa]

Some of us are less janky than others to be sure… I’m quite far across on the janky spectrum

[violet meadow]

Shall we put some bets on how far along something will break during his session?

[coarse mesa]

I’ve often wondered how much time is spent in the console in his sessions

He’s got me watching the console during sessions now too 😩

[short aurora]

How does Soulknife grab those targets? Is it an AoE or do you stab or multiple select?

[violet meadow]

Oh well I just get rid of the F12 button during live session 😂

[short aurora]

... is it Soul Knife or Soulknife?

squint

[violet meadow]

Select ones you want up to your prof bonus

[vast bane]

Not running tidy

[violet meadow]

Go away and kill that party already

[coarse mesa]

6 hour session… in Moto terms, that’s about ten minutes of elapsed in-game time? 🧐

[strong yew]

To install something from a fork I just need the raw url to the module.json right?

I swear I'm braindead after the workweek

[violet meadow]

If it has a release yeah

Otherwise copy paste the code

[coarse mesa]

I need someone to help me figure out how to do a release with the zip file where it should be etc at some stage. For my hacked VAE fork 👀

[short aurora]

@coarse mesa Here's an example to pilfer for your Soul Knife, assuming an on use macro

const psychicDice = await new Roll("1d6").evaluate() // just an example, dunno how yours is stored on the class.
const effectData = {
    label : "Soul Knife",
    icon : "icons/weapons/daggers/dagger-crooked-ice-blue.webp",
    changes: [],
    duration: {
            rounds: psychicDice.total
    }
};

// iterate through all targetted and create an active effect with the effect data above
this.hitTargets.forEach(t => {
    MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM("createEffects",{actorUuid:t.actor.uuid, effects:[effectData]})
});

// then the same to the actor themselves
await this.actor.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [effectData]);```

[coarse mesa]

Wow, thanks! I’ll try this out soon. How do you grab a scale value from an itemmacro?

[short aurora]

Something like this.actor.system.scale.rogue.scalenamehere.die

Might be you need a property from that object, I don't have one with a dice scale on me right now, but then you can always console.log that scale to check what it got

[coarse mesa]

This is a great start, thanks @short aurora … I’ll just investigate how to massage the die chatmessage a bit and add a description for the AE. Really appreciate the help

Of course I’m still 👂 about how Bugbear solves the daily/resource thing

[celest bluff]

My play group just RP this, since it doesn't require a roll. but if you really want to keep track of it.. Just place the AE on the Rogue and not each other target. There's no real point in it, since you already know who is connected to what as a GM. Unless they're sending each other whispers and you want some sort of special macro for this.

[coarse mesa]

Our rogue can’t quite connect to the whole party yet and since it lasts for hours the AE is likely to last between sessions

So it’s good to have a reminder who is benefiting

Seems like it’s solved anyway 🙂

[violet meadow]

@coarse mesa Soulknife: Psychic Whispers.
MidiQOL item onUse: ItemMacro | All.

Nothing else needed.
If it has a resource or a limited uses, this should not use expend it for the first use per long rest.

const { actor:sourceActor, macroPass, workflow:{applicationTargets,item:sourceItem}, workflow } = args[0];
if (macroPass === "preItemRoll" && !actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label === `${sourceItem.name} Daily Used`)) {
    workflow.config.consumeUsage = false;
    workflow.config.consumeResource = false;
    workflow.config.needsConfiguration = false;
    workflow.options.configureDialog = false;
    const effectDataLingering = {
        label: `${sourceItem.name} Daily Used`,
        icon: sourceItem.img,
        duration: {},
        origin: sourceItem.uuid,
        flags: {dae:{specialDuration:['longRest']}}
    }
    return await sourceActor.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [effectDataLingering]);
}
if (macroPass === "postActiveEffects") {
    const psychicDice = await new Roll("@scale.soulknife.psionic-power",args[0].actor.getRollData()).evaluate({async:true})
    const msg = await psychicDice.toMessage({flavor:`Psychic Whispers duration is ${psychicDice.total} hours.`});
    await game.dice3d.waitFor3DAnimationByMessageID(msg.id);
    const effectData = {
        label: sourceItem.name,
        icon: sourceItem.img,
        duration: {seconds: psychicDice.total * 3600},
        origin: sourceItem.uuid
    };
    // iterate through all targetted and create an active effect with the effect data above
    applicationTargets.forEach(t => {
        MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM("createEffects",{actorUuid:t.actor.uuid, effects:[effectData]})
    });
    await sourceActor.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [effectData]);
}

[coarse mesa]

We’re playing A House Divided and this ability is super useful with all the intrigue and RP, one of the reasons the rogue went Soulknife

[celest bluff]

You could do the roll also with noDamage

then update the effect's duration

or modify the item before postActiveEffects

[violet meadow]

Ah needs a small change frack mai tai

[celest bluff]

I do need to build out the rest of the abilities this weekend. I am playing one in my Wednesday game.

I technically already have homing strikes written

Psychic Teleportation is easy

[coarse mesa]

Psi-Bolstered Knack seems impossible, maybe the best you could hope for is an optional bonus and a dialog that asks if you passed or failed and deducts the resource accordingly

[celest bluff]

You would need a hook to monitor for this

[coarse mesa]

Thanks dude I’ll take it for a spin this afternoon ♥️

[violet meadow]

edited

[celest bluff]

I already have skill rolls and saves hooked up to monitor for my Darker Dungeons script

[coarse mesa]

Like seriously whoever wrote the Soulknife hates the WotC standards and/or VTTs

[violet meadow]

do you have a scale value for that one?

[celest bluff]

I just hooked on to createChatMessage

[celest bluff]

I wish the MTG crew would take over writing the rules for D&D

then shit would make more sense with timing and stacking rules

[coarse mesa]

This sounds intriguing… what does it do?

[strong yew]

Ah, I see, flag that expires after long rest to do the once free per day

I was just thinking in my mind how you were going to handle targeting based on pb

I'm an idiot. No need to automate everything

[violet meadow]

You pretarget, but you could trigger a lateTargeting if needed

[celest bluff]

failures - raises stress by 1
successes - lowers stress by 1
fumbles - raises stress by 1d4
criticals - lowers stress by 1d4

[strong yew]

Yeah, just meant to "enforce" the limitation of targets

Just my dumb devops brain

Don't suppose there's any solution for stuff like Fey Touched or Stars' druid free guiding bolts yet is there?

[coarse mesa]

Fun! Although our DM stresses us out enough already

[strong yew]

With the free usage + always prepared

without having two separate items?

[coarse mesa]

There needs to be a dnd5e way to do this, a lot of features work this way now thanks to Tasha’s and Mordenkainens

The consume available usage dialog needs an upgrade

Next project for Tim? 👀

[strong yew]

One of my players has Fey touched and Shadow touched, and it's a headache every time I have to reimport her

only like a minute or two of work

but since I'm playing a stars druid soon, also have the same thing going on with the free guiding bolts

[coarse mesa]

Yeah I have a lot of doubled up spells because of this. All the Strixhaven bonus spells too actually

[coarse mesa]

I’ll probably cop some flak for this but I’m playing a Stars Druid / Swarmkeeper Ranger. There’s some good synergy with the Starry Form and Gathered Swarm… I’ve made my swarm fireflies that form the constellations

[violet meadow]

you can 😄 ```js
if (macroPass === preambleComplete) {
const pb = actor.getRollData().attributes.prof
if (args[0].targets.length > pb) ui.notifications.warn(You bot, target only up to ${pb} creatures);
let result = await Dialog.prompt({title:I said target up to ${pb} creatures, content:"We are all waiting for you...again",label:"I am done!",rejectClose:false});
if (result && game.user.targets.size <= pb) {
ui.notifications.info("You get a cookie for complying");
return true;
}
else {
result = await Dialog.prompt({title:"Unbelievable", content:"Either do or you will fail spectacularly",label:"I am done!",rejectClose:false});
if (result && game.user.targets.size <= pb) {
ui.notifications.info("You dodged a bullet there");
return true;
}
else {
ui.notifications.error("Oh well you just wasted it");
return false;
}
}
}

[strong yew]

lol

[coarse mesa]

That needs to be a midi PR

[strong yew]

Ah that's actually cool. I was going to multiclass cleric/druid and have my spiritual guardians be constellations

similar to FFXIV astrologian if you're familiar/play

[coarse mesa]

That is cool. There’s a lot of redundant overlap with rangers and druids but I wasn’t going full munchkin. My go to attack is a Shillelagh booming blade tho 👀

[strong yew]

another dumb question. Where is Itemmacro | All

I don't see that option on the card

[violet meadow]

Scroll down, there are too many nowadays

[strong yew]

I decided to mostly go full Druid instead since Stars druid is very strong and their later features are cool

lmfao

I didn't realize there was a scroll

It has been a long week

Actually went Light cleric 1/Stars druid the rest

[coarse mesa]

Yeah I always regret multiclassing after the fact

[strong yew]

I like the flare ability for disadvantage

and cleric gives me like a ton more spells I can prepare and just basically keep that in place for rituals and other must haves

[violet meadow]

exactly the same way as the macro for the Soulknife.

Make them as normal spells, and in the preItemRoll make it consume no spellslot for the first casting per long rest and create a specialDuration Long rest AE, to check against its existence to decide for the next uses of the Item

Essentially something like this ```js
const { actor:sourceActor, macroPass, workflow:{item:sourceItem}, workflow } = args[0];
const effectName = ${sourceItem.name}: used the free one; //change to what you want

if (macroPass === "preItemRoll" && !actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label === effectName)) {
workflow.config.consumeSpellSlot = false;
workflow.config.consumeSpellLevel = false; //I never remember which one is needed, but put them all :D
workflow.config.needsConfiguration = false;
workflow.options.configureDialog = false;
const effectDataLingering = {
label: effectName,
icon: sourceItem.img,
duration: {},
origin: sourceItem.uuid,
flags: {dae:{specialDuration:['longRest']}}
}
return await sourceActor.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [effectDataLingering]);
}

[coarse mesa]

OTOH @strong yew I do use Hotbar Uses module and having two spells in the hotbar means I can easily see where I’m at with dailies and spell slots 🤔

Your Starry Form top right btw ✨

[strong yew]

Ah, interesting

I can't seem to get the scaling right for psionic whispers

this happened with my way of the dragon stuff too for my monk. It works sometimes and other times it fails at retrieving it

Also sometimes for my ranger

[violet meadow]

I wonder if it has to do with token selected or not.

const psychicDice = await new Roll("@scale.rogue.soulknife-dice",args[0].actor.getRollData()).evaluate({async:true})

[strong yew]

@scale.soulknife.psionic-power works as a damage roll or even if i /r @scale.soulknife.psionic-power logged in on the user

Logged in as the user and it's still just rolling 0 each time

But scaling seems to be otherwise set up

[coarse mesa]

Reminds me of an earlier issue about the auto filled scale levels and it’s better to fill all the levels manually 🤔

[strong yew]

This worked perfectly now with @scale.soulknife.psionic-power

Thank you. That's actually awesome to have this available. Have a Soul Knife in the party

[sudden crane]

Here is a new version of Flames of Phlegethos, the instructions to configure it are at the top of the macro.

[coarse mesa]

There’s a typo in @violet meadow’s name… the n should be a v

[frail osprey]

Hey there, sorry to call you from such an old post, but did you, by any chance, manage to fully automate any of the Astral Monk's features? If so, would you be so kind as to share them?

[hasty jackal]

i know this isnt midiqol related but how can i use the warpgate macro for dancing lights?

[frail osprey]

jb2a already has a dancing lights macro for free, and it's practically a must have module if you want any sort of animation

unless you're talking about a macro to summon dancing lights, that's way trickier

[coarse mesa]

Warpgate macros typically rely on you having an actor in the sidebar with the same name as the spawn method in the script. You can set a JB2A animation as the token image for the actor

If you steer me to the macro I can confirm for you

[hasty jackal]

yeah i found the jb2a

thanks

await warpgate.spawn('Dancing Lights', {}, {}, {duplicates: 4});