MidiQOL

[vast bane]

theres probably a way to do it as an item macro too with args on/off but that stuff is chris/bugbear territory hehe

[short aurora]

if (args[0] == "off") {
  ChatMessage.create({content:`The command must be followed now.`})
}```

I also can't recall if Effect Macro was v9, if you plan on having a message for effect expiry with a lot of items, you might be better off making a world macro with something similar like above and have the effects call that macro

[vast bane]

does that mean the item macro has to be in the key?

EM was v9 I'm pretty sure

bab was the one I was longing for while I was sticking on v9

[short aurora]

That macro just needs to be executed by the effect, else the args have the "state" wrong. Whether it's an itemMacro or a normal macro should be the same.

[vast bane]

I think it would need to be a key in the ae like macro.itemmacro

[short aurora]

Ah yeah, I just mean it can be macro.execute or macro.itemMacro or anything else that runs a macro, but you're right, it needs to be triggered from the active effect.

[vast bane]

I'm pretty certain the effect macro method can be pulled off assuming Times up is ok with their system since nothing deletes without it

[snow quarry]

Boo. Even as a new item, still does not self apply (without targeting something). this occurs with or without the box checked.

[vast bane]

set range to self also

[snow quarry]

nope =[

[vast bane]

if that doesn't fix it then it must be some sort of old snafu with v9 that I don't remember or its a sw5e interaction getting in the way

[snow quarry]

yeah no biggie. i will just have them target stuff

thanks tho!

[vast bane]

do you have the checkbox on in that window for effect evaluation true or something?

its right below your snippet I think

[vast bane]

you could also see if you are on the final build of dae for your system or not

you could try checking that box but thats very unlikely to fix it

before you fiddle with any updating make sure you know what versions you are on cause you are playing in legacy mode, virtually any update can really mess you up

[snow quarry]

nope. oh well

indeed- so i wll just deal with what i have, but i greayl appreciate all the help!

[snow quarry]

In case anyone has the same issue as me- it appears to have been an option I was missing within Midi QoL itself.

Original value = Don't auto apply effects

[vast bane]

Yeah I was starting the troubleshoot for that at first but forgot then when you didn't say anything, I kinda figured you were one of the manual folks

[quiet solar]

thank you all for your help in getting to this point, even if I'm delusional that it will help anybody but me 🙂

[short aurora]

Can someone tell me the differences between the last two options in the drop down for auto apply item effects? I can't seem to see any difference. edit: scratch that, I believe they do something distinct when you have other options on than I do.

(as in when I toggle each on, I see no difference. I can read 🥲 )

[violet meadow]

Just a FYI, DAE 10.0.24 seems to break flags.dae.onUpdateTarget and flags.dae.onUpdateSource. investigating

[violet meadow]

I think you can try to re-apply an effect if you don't automate rolls and such 🤷

Too tired to think now.

That trip down the onUpdateTarget rabbit hole has my head spinning

[snow quarry]

is there a way to add a custom flag to the "Special duration" portion of DAE?

[violet meadow]

Such as?

[snow quarry]

Once I find whatever flag SW5e has for a long rest, that. The 5e one doesnt seem to work with it

[vast bane]

if you had v10, effect macro has those flags fyi

possibly if you ask zhel nicely he might even be receptive towards ansering your plight

oh wait nope

those are dnd5e only hooks, so.....yeah....you might wanna go chat with him in his native habitate of macro polo see if you can get EM workin in sw5e with those hooks

[violet meadow]

These flags are 5e specific for EM

[snow quarry]

eh its all good. I dont wanna bug anyone over something minor. ill just change my item

[vast bane]

yeah hes on sw5e so it'd take somethin from zhell to even try to pull it off

kinda wierd we haven't gotten that for dae yet

wait a minute, isn't there one?

Does sw5e allow times up and simple calendar?

my guess is maybe these hooks are just like EM's where you need to do something to the module to get them to enable in sw5e

Isn't sw5e just a fork of dnd5e with reskinning, I imagine the hooks probably the same

[violet meadow]

There might be hooks in sw5e too.

Try in console CONFIG.debug.hooks = true

Then trigger a short or long rest and go through the returns

[dark canopy]

you need to, at the very least, remove all non-srd descriptions before posting this anywhere. This is a friendly reminder (for now)

[snow quarry]

It gives me quite a bit of info, of which i cant really decipher. For now, I will just adjust how the item works, but I really appreciate your help!

[inland vortex]

is there a way to get midiqol to recognize reaction spells on magic items? like shield and absorb elements, so that players have the oppotunity to use them before taking full damage, as if they were memorizied spells

[vast bane]

with Items with Spells module yes, with Magic Items Module...yeet it

[inland vortex]

i don't know enough to know what you just said

[vast bane]

the one feature MIM can do that IwS can't is add features to items, but dae's macro.createItem can cover that use case, and MIM is pretty screwy with many modules

[vast bane]

https://foundryvtt.com/packages/items-with-spells-5e

[inland vortex]

sp install items with spells module

thank you

[vast bane]

If you are desperate, and you want to brave the headaches, you could also try Magic Items Module, but it is notoriously buggy with some modules, midi included

I take that back theres 2 features that MiM has that people use it for. A cleaner upcast feature for some items like the wands. And the ability to add a feature onto an item

[inland vortex]

i'll try the other first

[vast bane]

Items with spells can do upcasting but its not exactly what some would say efficient:

with items with spells the best way I can pull off upcastings is to make each individual upcast version of the spell in a compendium and drag them each onto the item

[inland vortex]

i'm using v9 still. it looks like you have to have v10 for items wih spells

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/qINsfDGI0z9yU/giphy.gif

Magic Items Module is your only shot, you can also manually link innate spells to magic items too fyi.

[ancient musk]

What is it in midi that's stopping me from rolling NPC attacks directly from sheets without tokens or combat active?

I've even got ALL automation turned off and not requiring targets. I click a weapon attack and nothing happens, not even a warning.

[vast bane]

its a chat card option in one of the more rightmost tabs of workflow

portraits for chatcard or something

I would just leave everything on and put the players tokens in the map somewhere during totm

[ancient musk]

I can't seem to find it. 😦 (I'm just using foundry for running in-person sessions. No players on the game, no active canvas.)

[vast bane]

why are you using midi then?

[ancient musk]

Quicker rolls at the table. It's hardly essential, though.

[vocal umbra]

this is a cool article that might help you: https://www.foundryvtt-hub.com/guide/using-foundry-for-in-person-gaming/

[vast bane]

are you on v9 foundry?

its not an option in v9

[ancient musk]

Copy that. Thanks for the help.

[dense vessel]

I have these settings on in Midi-Qol, and I have Convenient Effects installed/active, yet the corresponding convenient effect is never called. Item effects are automatically applied just fine. But not CE... Am I missing something?

[vocal umbra]

you want both the item effects and CE? sometimes that can cause duplication in my experience.

[dense vessel]

nah, Was just making it clear that one works but not the other

However, I only just realized that you can actually drag-and-drop the CE directly into the spell item. And that makes it work just fine - disregard!

[vast bane]

you need to tell us the version of dfreds CE and midiqol and dae you have installed(and dnd5e/foundry) and do not say "the newest"

dfreds CE should apply but I suspect you are on mismatched versions

OR another roller is rolling the item

[inner mulch]

is this accurate, it says no macro found when i try this so im assuming im doing it wrong

[vast bane]

you put the macro in the wrong place

see item macro at the top of the item?

thats where the macro goes

[inner mulch]

oh i didnt see that

[vast bane]

make sure item macro character sheet hooks is off in its settings

you will know its not when none of your macros work

[violet meadow]

And also change the mode in the Engulf Effect for the OverTime key, to Override instead of Add

I am intrigued to see if that will work easily or not and then go to bed 😄

[vast bane]

he also added those from an abnormal method cause they don't have the icon of the spell/ability

I'm guessing added to the item via dfreds Ce drag and drop or added while it was in the sidebar not using wrench

[inner mulch]

i am dropping it from the item bar.

i added the icon from something else that i cant remember

[vast bane]

I always use the wrench so I don't have to set the ae's icons

just saves time and clicks is all

[violet meadow]

yeah, going through the DAE button makes more sense

for me

[inner mulch]

so it seems to be making the monster roll a con save as it is now

[vast bane]

Item probably has somethinmg entered in its details?

unless you mean the overtime effect

[violet meadow]

can you also screenshot the DAEs' Details tabs?

[vast bane]

yeah this is one of those unique cases where that self is gonna need one of the two self boxes

[vast bane]

prolly should be the other self box right? otherwise he'll wind up with self when he misses?

[violet meadow]

That is true. So many boxes 😄

[vast bane]

Also make sure effect activation true is checked on item details at the bottom or else it will apply always

wait nm

wow thats an odd ability

thats an auto hit ability

[inner mulch]

its a shambling mound

yea it just eats you

[vast bane]

so it should basically roll as utility or other and don't check that box, it just hits

and applies

[inner mulch]

i apologise what is it i need to change now as im a little confused.

[vast bane]

I don't see anything wrong with your setup unless you are only applying on a failed save or something

can't really tell how it rolls in chat cause you got some module doin weird stuff

it auto applies right?

[inner mulch]

it applied the blind and restrained, but then made the mound roll the con save instead of the target

[vast bane]

you have the self overtime set to save

[inner mulch]

what would i need to change? since the save needs to happen on the mounds turn but its the target that needs to roll it

[vast bane]

Yeah I got nothin on that one

I can think of really janky ways to do it but you got yourself halfway proper, prolly wait for a bugbear or a chris to answer

[violet meadow]

I will take a closer look in the morning and ping you 😉

[inner mulch]

thanks for that i appreciate it

[reef salmon]

Are there any automation solutions for a spell like Flaming Sphere?

[spice kraken]

@scarlet gale Just doing research for the future, but what is the reason for the beyond importer and Compendium folders as required modules?

[scarlet gale]

Beyond importer isn't actually required, I need to fix that on the main page, that's just the supported version

Compendium folders is required as I use it's API for the compendiums for replacing monster features

[spice kraken]

Ah makes sense

I'm assuming all your module stuff is in a custom compendium(s)?

[scarlet gale]

Yep, they all start with CPR

[spice kraken]

Noice, can't wait to use it in 2025 😂

[scarlet gale]

I've been working with MrPrimate on the DDB integration. You can check a box on that module and it'll pull from my automations if any are found.

[spice kraken]

I don't use DDB importer. I just make the stuff on my own whenever I need it

[scarlet gale]

totally fair

I use it as a base, import for descriptions and basic setup. Then edit it up to my standards

[spice kraken]

I'm excited for all the shiny stuff I can use once I'm off v9

[vast bane]

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/wiki/MidiQOL-activation-conditions-examples

[reef salmon]

Thank you

[reef salmon]

Quick question: I'm a bit confused at how to get at the macros for Mr.Primates. It's tied to the DDB importer, which I don't need or intend to use. Am I simply going to miss out on those macros?

Or is it safe to copy the .js into some custom macros?

[scarlet gale]

Add the module then in console do the following:

item = game.items.getName("Cloak of Displacement");
await game.modules.get("ddb-importer")?.api.effects.addDDBIEffectToDocument(item);```

replacing Cloak of Displacement with whatever the name of the sidebar item actually is

You can do the whole actor with:

actor = game.actors.getName("Character Name");
await game.modules.get("ddb-importer")?.api.effects.addDDBIEffectsToActorDocuments(actor);```

It should be mostly safe to remove the module after if you so want, but a few items (Chill touch, darkness, and javelin of lightning) do require it's API to function

[reef salmon]

Getting an error from the console:

I'm a bit new, sorry

[scarlet gale]

oh that's interesting lol

Looks like there's still some bugs with that

It was just only added

[reef salmon]

Ah, that's a shame.

[scarlet gale]

Looks like it's checking to see if items from my modules should be added

I'm guessing it's checking a setting of some sort and doesn't like it's unset

you should mostly be able to copy the scripts from the js files

but some of them do need setup on the item

[reef salmon]

Okay, I'll see what I can do tomorrow. And just to be clear, the console commands you gave me are having conflicts with the 'chrisPremades' because they're implemented in that module and not core functionality?

[scarlet gale]

Not a conflict and more of an oversight most likely. The DDB importer module has a setting to use stuff from my module and it looks like something is going wrong with that API function

It's likely checking to see if it should also pull my stuff and is getting undefined for something

[reef salmon]

Gotcha. If you need any info about my setup or any modules I have installed lemme know and I'll get answers tomorrow. Good luck with that bug!

[scarlet gale]

Not my bug, MrPrimates

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef salmon]

Ah, gotcha. Oh well then lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tranquil cloak]

what function of midi do I use to add an item temporarily to a character sheet?

[vast bane]

its really complicated

theres a macro way and then theres a dae way

macro.createItem

in a dae key, and then the effect value is a drag and drop of the actual item, but you can't delete the original as the dae needs the original to exist

[tranquil cloak]

Is there some where I can read up on the DAE way? Basically my player has a feature that allows them to summon a shield and dismiss it with a BA.

i can't find anything about it on the DAE gitlab

[short aurora]

It sounds worse than it is. Is the shield tied to a duration or anything?

The real challenge is presumably auto-equipping the conjured shield. The creating part of it is just this, and you can fill out Effect Value by dragging the item either from the sidebar or a compendium onto it.

If you throw in an equip macro on your summoned shield's itemMacro, you can use macro.createItemRunMacro in the above key instead and that should work, I just don't have the syntax for updating an item's equip status right on me Have Advanced Macros module on and slap this in the itemMacro of the shield and you should be peachy

if (args[0] == "onCreate"){
const itemToEquip = await fromUuid(args[1].itemUuid);
itemToEquip.update({"system.equipped": true});
}```

very tempted to make a captain america shieldboomerang item now 🤔

[feral kestrel]

Is there an option to auto roll healing but not damage?

[fringe crag]

I have a weaker form of a sunblade in my campaign and I try to set it up. Does anyone have a macro for that? I checked Chris's and Bugbear Macros but can't find anything

[violet meadow]

@reef salmon Flaming Sphere is also in the MidiQOL sample items compendium

[fickle flint]

Hi there, I try to automate the sneak attack with loading both the Sneak Attack and Auto Sneak Attack features into my rogue's character sheet. This does not give the expected result, it seems i also need an itemmacro. In the F12-screen i see Midi-Qol want to run this itemmacro, but cannot findit. And I cannot find an itemmacro or a sneak attack macro in my macro compendiums. Can you help me with this?

[violet meadow]

Item Macro is a separate module. It should not be required to run the Sneak Attack features from MidiQOL sample items compendium though

Did you import both Items from the MidiQOL Sample Items compendium?

If yes, delete the Sneak Attack Feature already on the character sheet of the rogue.
Then, drag and drop both imported features onto the character sheet

[wraith spade]

I have the same issue. Imported both sample items from the compendium and put them on the character, but nothing happens. The item macro isn't run at all on a hit of a weapon. ( Added logging )

Also renamed the sneak attack item as instructed

[vast bane]

do you guys have item macro installed?

item macro is purely a storage device

[wraith spade]

Yes

[vast bane]

if you install it and leave it as is default it will break midi

you must disable character sheet hooks in item macros settings

[wraith spade]

I have disabled the specific settings

[vast bane]

midi sorta coops the module purely for storage

[wraith spade]

But I will double check

[vast bane]

if its still not working after you shutoff character sheet hooks in iitem macro, open the console and snippet the errors

[wraith spade]

Doubled Checked the settings, all should be correct. There are no errors in the console...

[vast bane]

what color are the squares of those tokens when you hold down the alt key with nobody selected?

wait a minute

is that ready set roll?

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

The following modules have template settings that step on midi:
Spell Template Manager

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

Midi requires Item Macro to have its "Character sheet hooks" feature set to unchecked in order for on use macros to work right.

When editing owned items(items on actors) active effects beware of duplicating active effects that interfere. Always check the actors effect tab for rogue ae's.

If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

Midi now requires sight to be setup on all monsters or the players will get unseen attacker advantage.

[wraith spade]

none of the doesn't work with modules are installed. I have used the midi-qol required and recommended modules list as starting point and made sure no interfering modules gets added.

[vast bane]

ok I need you to turn on attribution in the workflow settings, its towards the top of the same tab that has the hide npc details

I think your problem is you have a disadvantage flag on you

[wraith spade]

don't think so as the macro isn't even called. I added a console log into it and it isn't executed. (it is before any checks for advantage and so on)

[vast bane]

once you have this setting on, make the attack again, and then expand the attack roll and it should show you all the flags that affect the roll

[wraith spade]

ok, just a minute

[vast bane]

if theres a disadvantage flag it won't run

[wraith spade]

I initially had the formula->tooltip + adv attribution selected

one attack with nearby enemy, one attack with advantage from invisibility

[vast bane]

someone had this problem a while back, we couldn't figure out why it wasn't working for them

show me the item details of the bow and the sneak attack

also have you tried with just dae/midi/socketlib/libwrapper?

can you show me the first tab of both the ally and the rogues token settings?

That sneak attack does indeed work btw:

[wraith spade]

effects tab of the shortbow is empty

[vast bane]

you don't have require target on do you?

[wraith spade]

I didn't try to reduce the modules, but I will start find the culprit now, it looks like there is an module intefering

[vast bane]

drag out riswinn from the starter heroes, replace his sneak attack and use him, your importer has weird shit

[wraith spade]

yes, but i have targeted the globlins

[vast bane]

also I wanted to see the bottom of sneak attack

[wraith spade]

what botton, there is none

[vast bane]

give it other or utility, does it have an item macro entry

nm the macro is applied via the dae

[wraith spade]

yes, as shown in the screenshot

it is the midi-qol sample items one

no change other than the console.log

[vast bane]

drag out riswynn from the starter heroes, replace his sneak attack with midi's and try to sneak with him

[wraith spade]

ok

[vast bane]

that bow is bad btw

importers 🤷

hah dnd5e srd's is too well then

uncheck firearm on the bow

yeah I suspect the firearm flag is the culprit

[wraith spade]

done the starter heroes stuff

no snerak attack

I will now check my modules

Don't think it is the firearm thing

[vast bane]

I can replicate the no sneak by putting the firearm flag on my daggers

[wraith spade]

the starter hero bow doesn't have the flag

[vast bane]

did you drag the sneak feature to him

[wraith spade]

Yes, of course

[vast bane]

yeah I can definitely reproduce sneak not working by flagging any item as a firearm

[wraith spade]

I will check my modules now, I think there is some issue with that

the firearm flag would be a foundry issue as it is not calling all hooks or what?

[vast bane]

I dunno, I'd try with all but midi's stuff enabled

errrr try with just the 4 modules on

if riswynn still doesn't sneak attack then you should probably take someones midi settings I guess

I've seen this issue before and the user wound up unable to use the sneak attack

are you dragging out just auto sneak?

[wraith spade]

No, I especially don't drag auto sneak attack onto the player because i want the dialog prompt

but i have also tested this with auto sneak attack additional to the sneak attack feature and it still doesn't work

auto sneak just sets a flag btw

[vast bane]

whats really weird is the top half of your card looks like ready set roll

[wraith spade]

that is the midi-qol setting for condensed cards without the make it additionally short setting i believe

[vast bane]

oh ok you have merge on but not condense

heres what it should look like:

[wraith spade]

I have publi9c rolls

yours is gm only

other color

as a private gm roll

[vast bane]

install find the culprit and test with just the 4 modules

if it doesn't work with the 4 modules, list off your midi, dae, socketlib, libwrapper, dnd5e and foundry version numbers

also export your midi settings as a back up and use mine

[wraith spade]

i have find the culprit already will start now, but I get distracted by discord 😉

thank you for taking the time

[short aurora]

Hmm, I spot an error with the macro setup when trying in my test world, too. It's supposed to roll the Sneak Attack's itemMacro as a DamageBonusMacro, but there's no itemMacro on the effect trying to roll it.

[wraith spade]

midi-qol | no item macro found for ItemMacro workflow.js line 1669 > Function:4:11

That is the only warning in console log i get

there is a item macro saved at the feature, but it isn't called.

The issue persist in the minimal setup, so only midi-qol, dae, libsocket and libwrapper is active

[short aurora]

Yeah, the effect is trying to call the world macro ItemMacro rather than the item's item macro, I think?

[vast bane]

does that happen with riswynn to?

[short aurora]

indeedy, making a bar macro named ItemMacro triggers that instead

[wraith spade]

yes, it was with starter hero

[short aurora]

So you can fix it by copying the item macro content, make a new macro with it and edit the effect to call that macro's name instead

[vast bane]

I don't think thats the issue though

[vast sierra]

does it work if you put everyone on the ground? might have other modules messing with the height differences

[vast bane]

its sneak attack

[short aurora]

It is the issue, the warning they get is the same

"no macro ItemMacro found"

it's not finding what it's supposed to run

[vast bane]

show us the ae on sneak attack, the key and value

its sneak attack, its not an on use macro

its a dae calling macro.itemMacro

[short aurora]

Not the feature they've shown, it's a DamageBonusMacro flag

[vast bane]

unless he edited the dae it should not have his problem

[vast bane]

oh shit yeah

thats not suppose to be the entry

what versions are you guys on?

are you on midi 33?

didn't bugbear say that dae is not running item macros?

either locally apply his fix or downgrade to 33

if you downgrade to 33, you have to downgrade CPR to pre 90

[short aurora]

.34 here. Seems like the proper fix is putting in ItemMacro.Actor.actorId.Item.itemId in effect value there

Wonder how midi/dae does that normally, that seems like dynamic values, maybe there's an import function dying somewhere

[wraith spade]

midi-qol is 10.0.35
dae is 10.0.24

replacing itemMacro with the correct reference is working

[vast bane]

I think one of bugbears last posts before he headed off to bed was mentioning this bug

he said he had a local fix for it if anyone cared

tposney is on vacation so we won't see a fix for 34/35 for weeks

its either revert to stable 33, which means CPR has to be reverted too cause he built around 35's new features

or live with this bug

[wraith spade]

what is cpr?

[vast bane]

or get bugbears fix

Chris' Premade module

[wraith spade]

ah, don't use it... I'm unsure if it is stable enough?

[vast bane]

nevermind wrong key bug:
"

were your actors linked?

[wraith spade]

yes

[vast bane]

does anyone remember that user who couldn't get sneak attack to work before, it was like 3 weeks ago

[wraith spade]

just for your information: the firearm setting doesn't influence the sneak attack at all

just keep in mind that the script checks if you have made an sneak attack this round

Additionally I would change this to just remembering the round and not the turn as you can also use sneak attack for attack of opportunities
so instead of const combatTime = `${game.combat.id}-${game.combat.round + game.combat.turn /100}`;
use this const combatTime = `${game.combat.id}-${game.combat.round}`;

[vast bane]

it was the lack of finesse, was a false flag

[wraith spade]

ah ok

[final flax]

hello, sorry for interrupting but can I have one question,
is there any way to change how damage buttons that are enabled by this option look?

[vast bane]

you could use custom CSS module maybe....to change how they look

those are the fall back legacy buttons, most midi users use the damage dialogue instead fyi

@violet meadow you see the issue with sneak attack in 34/35? its not populating the right value in the dae

they had to copy shared snippet to get sneak to work from the sample

[violet meadow]

ItemMacro case sensitive here

[short aurora]

That was just a test, it still does not work, read the rest

There's some dynamic values that have been lost or not being generated

[violet meadow]

Too much. ItemMacro.Sneak Attack ?

[short aurora]

#1010273821401555087 message
The above syntax is in Moto's item, in me and Karaxus, it's just ItemMacro, so a function that's supposed to add these dynamic values appears to be defunct

[violet meadow]

Strange. To populate that syntax easily just drag and drop the Item on the Effect Value input field.

[short aurora]

That is definitely much easier. 😅

[violet meadow]

But even ItemMacro by itself should work there.

Are you on latest DAE .24?

[wraith spade]

yes, I am

have the same issue

[short aurora]

With a DamageBonusMacro flag? Doesn't that need the "full path"?

Also yes, I am DAE .24

[violet meadow]

Nope, as is in the Sample Item works too. But I think its the changes in the latest DAE/MidiQOl

[crisp needle]

I try my luck again. For some reason when I try to import the items Sneak attack and auto sneak attack, they do nothing for me. Having a look at the console I get the warning "midi-qol | no item macro found for ItemMacro".

I already renamed Sneak attack 10.0.33 to sneak attack but it does nothing to me.

What am I doing wrong?

[violet meadow]

I have downgraded to test some things for MidiSRD

[violet meadow]

Open up the DAE on the sneak attack

[short aurora]

That just happens to be the issue we're talking about franky 😄

[violet meadow]

Effect value shoot a screenshot

[short aurora]

I did nail down it's trying to execute ItemMacro the world macro, so I guess the full path alleviates that

(I made a new macro named ItemMacro and it executes that instead...)

[violet meadow]

OK open your character sheet and drag and drop the Sneak Attack Item literally in the Effect Value field.

Make it so it is ItemMacro.XXX where XXX is what the drag and drop populates

gonna update again to test it too

[wraith spade]

Could this be a problem for other sample items too?

[violet meadow]

Could be yes

[crisp needle]

either I am doing it wrong or that does nothing for me

[short aurora]

That's for the first one, not the Auto Sneak Attack one

[crisp needle]

yes I did it for Sneak attack not for auto

[final flax]

thanks a lot, dug up how to change it
as for damage dialogue didn't knew about it

[short aurora]

Ah, my bad, the gif is bad, it needs to say ItemMacro in front. So the entire value reads something like ItemMacro.Actor.actorId.Item.itemId e.g. something like ItemMacro.Actor.WngEtUaYSwXIwNLx.Item.59w5FSHqUVlHP8hD, the dragging of the item is to fill out what comes after ItemMacro.

[jagged bear]

What would be the best way to implement Fighting Style: Interception? I imagine some hook running on the player side and the GM side to prompt the player to reduce the damage?

[short aurora]

deleting the gif in shame

[crisp needle]

I'll try that

[short aurora]

Also you might have the old effect with the old value still on, best to edit the feature in the sidebar with the new values, make sure your actor does not have the old feature, then add the new feature, because I definitely did not just make this mistake double checking

or at least verify your effect changed too

[crisp needle]

I think I did as you said but still nothing for me

[short aurora]

You did it right, what weapon are you using for testing?

[crisp needle]

I fully deleted the old features and redid them new. The effect that is active has the right effect value (as you said) but still it does nothing. I am rolling with advantage against a blind target

a dagger

[short aurora]

And it's finesse, yeah?

The macro has some hardcoded restrictions

[crisp needle]

yes, I also just tried a rapier copy pasted from the compendium

[short aurora]

Hmm, what does the console say?

[short aurora]

So no longer warning about the missing ItemMacro, but not doing anything. Can you try with just Midi + DAE and dependencies? I'm in a fresh world and this method solved it just fine

[crisp needle]

ok I will

[crisp needle]

I deactivated all modules, but Midi QOL and MIDI SRD, plus DAE and dependencies and now it doesn't want to do the automation of MIDI. Maybe I am missing something there

[wraith spade]

you need midi-qol + dae + libwrapper +libsocket

midi-srd isn't necessary

[short aurora]

Yeah, midi SRD is (currently) an outdated example module. Here's a list of the modules used in the example compendium (all the checked ones). Warp Gate too, if you use "summoning" macros.

Item Macro is technically not needed, actually, that's just for looking at/editing what's been made already.

[crisp needle]

still not 😩

[short aurora]

I am hmming a lot but can't quite figure out what could be wrong here.

[wraith spade]

The workaround with referencing the itemMacro correctly works for me

[short aurora]

It "worked" for franky as well in the extent it stopped that very same error, but I don't understand how it's executing that macro but seemingly not erroring or just not doing anything at all

@crisp needle are you in combat in these tests?

[crisp needle]

nope I wasn't

that might be the reason

[short aurora]

bugger

[crisp needle]

I will try that

[short aurora]

It should work both in and out of combat, I was hoping you were testing and forgetting to pass turns, then it wont say anything if you already sneak attacked during that turn

Out of combat it doesn't seem to care much

[crisp needle]

it did not change in combat

but now it is not rolling with advantage, even though the enemy is prone

I made him blind and it rolls with advantage, but same result

[short aurora]

I'm out of ideas, sorry, all the things that could be wrong should spew errors or warnings, running without doing anything leaves me in the dark

[crisp needle]

well I appreciate very much your help

I will try the same in a new world

[fickle flint]

I followed your discussion, thanks for all the effort. I setup a DAE/MIDI/libsocket/libwrapper, without itemmacro module and with the midiqol-settings with your json and entered the ItemMacro.Actor.actorId.Item.itemId. This is the Actor RisWynn (rogue) and item rapier? Unfortunately this still doesn'd work for me. DAE/24, MDID/35.

[crisp needle]

when I start my world I get that notification. I don't know if that maybe have something to do. I recently updated to v10 and I made sure to update several times my modules. But I still get this warning

[short aurora]

Ah. I am uncertain if disabling that will fix it, since you mentioned only having midi and dependencies on before, but here's Moto's good message about other roll modules with Midi. #1010273821401555087 message tl;dr don't have other roll modifying modules with Midi

seems like MarcIC has the same issue tho so maybe something is lurking in the water and I just can't see it

[violet meadow]

Disable both ASE and Better Rolls (uninstall and delete the module folder if you cannot find it in your world modules)!

[green wolf]

I have an overtime effect but the saveDC is not using my NPC's spelldc attribute. Thoughts?

[violet meadow]

Change to Change Mode Override instead of Add in the OverTime effect?

[green wolf]

No luck. The end of turn roll is still 10.

[violet meadow]

Did you recast it after?

[green wolf]

yeah i cleared everything and recast

[crisp needle]

will try that thanks

[crisp needle]

from that list the only one that I have is better rolls 5e

[violet meadow]

Not updated to v10. Should just delete it!

[short aurora]

As long as you did that trial run with only midi, dae and dependencies, I don't think it will fix anything, but for other reasons, what bugbear says :p

[crisp needle]

yes I will do that. I am testing in a new world first

[violet meadow]

Is Valtorrax a linked token?

[green wolf]

yes

I've tried it with PC tokens as well and it's not reading theirs either

10 for any character i use

[violet meadow]

Version of MidiQOL? And have you tried with no other modules except MidiQOL/DAE/socketlib/libwrapper?

Ahhhh wait, is that on a DFreds Effect maybe?

[green wolf]

yeah it is

[violet meadow]

Yeah that might do it. The metadata will not be passed correctly

[crisp needle]

I deleted both modules and still no change

[green wolf]

ah let me try putting it on the skill itself

[crisp needle]

I am in combat, this is the first action on a turn, I am attacking with a lvl 7 rogue and a dagger against a blind gobling with an ally flanking it

[short aurora]

Best bet is a fresh new world with only dependencies

[green wolf]

That worked

[violet meadow]

Just to recap.

You' ve tried on a new world with only MidiQOL/DAE/socketlib/libwrapper?
You have imported the Sneak Attack Item from the MidiQOL sample Items

[crisp needle]

Yes I did

both sneak attack and auto sneak attack

[violet meadow]

Hit enter a bit too soon

[crisp needle]

yes I did try only in a new world too

[jagged bear]

Hm, what's the ideal way to set the damage of a workflow before it applies to the token?

[short aurora]

Can you show the console when attempting in that fresh world? The other ones you've shown have other modules on, might be snatching up an important error

DAE likes to put errors in as warnings, which is a fun feature

[snow quarry]

Is there a way to create an item that forces an ability check when used, then depending on that result something happens?

[crisp needle]

• New world
• Only DAW, libWrapper, Midi QOL (I used the quick settings for full automation) and socketlib active
• Attacking with a dagger of the Starter Heroe rogue against a blind goblin.
• I am in combat

[fringe crag]

I tried the "sample-feature" by midi for metamagic twin spell. My Problem is, that it works great but only uses 1 Sorcery point no matter the spell level I use. Normally it should cost the level of the spellslot 🤔 Am I missing something?

and I can't twin a chaos bolt, but I can twin Magic Missiles

[short aurora]

It needs to hit to process, can you show console as well when the attack hits?

[short aurora]

I give up, bugbear tagged in

[violet meadow]

your previous message got swept in the current 😄

this.setDamageRoll(await new Roll("formula").evaluate({async:true})
on the midi-qol.postDamageRoll hook or preDamageApplied (not sure about that one now)

[violet meadow]

Did you relink the ItemMacro. to the new Item that got created?

Cause you are probably using the older Item.UUID link if you just copy pasted it

But still. ItemMacro.Sneak Attack should be working! 🤔

[crisp needle]

no, I imported a new Sneak attack item from the compendium and I linked it new

[fringe crag]

still the sneak attack problem, oh boi

[short aurora]

Sure. Many different ways too, but will probably need some macroing. Can you expand a bit more? Give an example scenario?

[snow quarry]

Sure, there is an item, essentially a credit card, that can be hacked into. If they succeed, they get the money stored on it. If they fail, it is destroyed. DC 15

[short aurora]

Is it also destroyed when they get the money on it?

[snow quarry]

Yes, I suppose it would be lol

[short aurora]

Should the money be granted automatically or you want to narrate it?

[snow quarry]

Or at the very least, unneeded

A chat message would be nice on success or failure

[short aurora]

Ah, wrong question of me, are you storing the $ of the credit card somewhere we can fetch it or do you want like a generic success message so you can decide afterwards how much they get?

[violet meadow]

First off. Can you delete the Auto Sneak attack feature from the character sheet and check if the Sneak Attack posts a dialog?

Then if that doesn't work, can you export the Sneak Attack Item and your MidiQOL settings and DM them to me?

[fickle flint]

Just to make sure: Item is the weapon with which the Actor attacks? So here: Riswynn's rapier?

[snow quarry]

the money should be added directly to their account, if possible. this is SW5e, so it only uses one currency- credits.

[violet meadow]

Have never used the feature so not sure offhand how it works. Might check it later

[crisp needle]

this is the first part. I deleted the auto sneak attack and no change

[fickle flint]

Same here.

[violet meadow]

@fickle flint and @crisp needle if you want I could connect to your worlds to check what is happening.
If you want, send me a message with link and a temporary GM account user/pass

[short aurora]

Does Midi not roll items with Action Type set to Ability Check? Swear that used to be a thing but maybe I'm dreaming

[violet meadow]

I It does

[short aurora]

Maybe another little midi .34/.35 bug then..

[violet meadow]

nah it should be fine. I am on latest

Auto rolling though. Do you use Tokenbar or something/

[short aurora]

Ah, I didn't have a DC on, it refuses then. Fair dues. Is it supposed to fast forward the check too?

[violet meadow]

yeah depending on your settings

[short aurora]

Yup, that seems to be it, no DC no fast forward. Thanks! Sidenote, does that mean Tools can't be fast forwarded without placing a "fake" DC on the item?

[short aurora]

Do you happen to know the data path to credits?

[snow quarry]

Unfortunately I do not, but I will try to find out for you.

[short aurora]

You can check it out by logging an actor to the console (F12), _token.actor when you've got an actor selected. Back in v9, I think in dnd it was data.data.currency? Here's a working dnd5e for now. Slap on an item that can roll an ability check with a DC 15 (in dnd5e that's nearly all items that can roll things, I made an "equipment trinket"). Slap the value on the item as the money you want in the account, have it run ItemMacro as an OnUse and slot this into ItemMacro.

if (args[0].failedSaves.length != 0){
    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: `The credit card <i>explodes</i>. You get nothing. You should have stayed a nerfherder.`
    },{});
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
}
else {
    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: `Easy creds, ${args[0].item.data.price.value} credits shoots into your account. You nonchalantly discard the wiped card.`
    },{});
    const currentCredits = args[0].actor.system.currency.gp; // after args[0]. needs to be replaced with credits path
    await args[0].actor.update({"system.currency.gp": currentCredits + args[0].item.data.price.value}) // part in quotations also needs to be replaced with credits path
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
}```

[fickle flint]

Bugbear found the solution, he will tell you himself ... 😉

[snow quarry]

Thanks so much! I suck at macros

[violet meadow]

For the Sneak Attack issue.

Clear any Sneak attack items and effects from the Actor.
Import the Sneak Attack MidiQOL Sample Item from the Compendium, not on the Actor directly, but in the Item's directory on the right sidebar.

Find it and change the Effect Value on the DAE to be ItemMacro.Sneak Attack and rename the Item to Sneak Attack too.
Drag that then on the actor.

[violet meadow]

Hmm tools are different Item types. Auto rolling is supported as well

[short aurora]

Mine just pops out a message with a button to use the tool when rolling it, full auto settings

That's why I went with making equipment instead, even though I thought tools would be the best solution to begin with as they're already ability checks

[violet meadow]

The Fast Forward Ability Rolls should be checked

bottom one in the screenshot

[short aurora]

Oh shoot, that's not part of the pre-config settings, sweet. Thanks, that does it

[hoary root]

Good morning to everyone! So whenever I perform an attack on a creature that is more than 5 feet away I get this message and the attack is not made. I would like to remove this limiter, but I'm not sure which module is doing this. Can anyone tell me?

[spice kraken]

Definitely midi. Maybe under optional settings but idr

[short aurora]

Reckon it's this one, Midi settings

[hoary root]

That was it! Thanks a lot, this has been bugging me for a while. hahaha

[narrow saddle]

Hi there,

Is it possible to set a attribute key so that an actor has advantage on attacks against Fire Elementals and for Fire Elementals to have disadvantage on attacks against the actor? 🙂

[violet meadow]

The Fire Elemental is it set as a Creature Type: Elemental, Subtype: Fire?

[narrow saddle]

Yeah that is right.

[narrow saddle]

Do I do this through DAE?

[violet meadow]

Yes.
Create a DAE with flags.midi-qol.advantage.attack.all | CUSTOM | target.details.type?.value?.toLocaleLowerCase().includes("elemental") && target.details.type?.subtype?.toLocaleLowerCase().includes("fire") and ```
flags.midi-qol.grants.disadvantage.attack.all | CUSTOM | target.details.type?.value?.toLocaleLowerCase().includes("elemental") && target.details.type?.subtype?.toLocaleLowerCase().includes("fire")

I posted it as a WIKI entry too: https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/wiki/Item-Ideas#advantage-on-attacks-against-fire-elementals-and-they-have-disadvantage-to-hit-you

[tepid dock]

Looking to gain some knowledge here. With the feature description below, do you think that would require any macro or could it run off non-scripted functions of Midi, DAE, and so forth?

Spend 6 Holy Power – When you take the attack action, replace one of your attacks with Divine Storm. You raise your weapon as divine energy spirals outward.  Enemy creatures within a 10 foot radius of you must make a Dexterity Saving throw.  On a failed save, the creatures take 5d6 + your Charisma modifier in radiant damage.  On a successful save, the creatures take half damage. Allies in this radius are healed for the same amount as the damage dealt.

Aside: Holy Power is a custom resource so pay no mind to that.

[violet meadow]

The different damage types against different sets of targets will need a macro

[tepid dock]

Gotcha, kind of figured that'd be the case. I knew just the first damage portion was easy, but then the healing threw me. Thanks

[short aurora]

Does findnearby do disposition because it doesn't sound too complicated if so...

[violet meadow]

😄

[violet meadow]

Damage dealt is a bit open to interpretation

Would that be the maximum damage of the roll?

[odd sable]

I'm building an ability somewhat similar to Hunter's Mark, using the latest MidiQoL sample item as the base, but it should have a scaling damage value based on the class level of the user, how would I need to change this part of the Item Macro to refer to the a subclass identifier for its damage [@scale.musketeer.fencing]? I figure I should change the d6 part below, but I'm not really sure how I should format the identifier to make it work? The identifier is written as 1d4 at the moment, but I could of course change that to just d4 if that works better?

let damageType = args[0].item.system.damage.parts[0][1]; const diceMult = args[0].isCritical ? 2: 1; return {damageRoll: `${diceMult}d6[${damageType}]`, flavor: "Hunters Mark Damage"};

[tepid dock]

Correct 5d6+cha would be the maximum damage

[violet meadow]

You should change the logic a bit. The new Sneak Attack Item has the preferred way to do it.
Try this ```js
const damageType = args[0].item.system.damage.parts[0][1];
const damageFormula = new CONFIG.Dice.DamageRoll({@scale.musketeer.fencing}[${damageType}], args[0].actor.getRollData(), {
critical: args[0].isCritical ?? false,
powerfulCritical: game.settings.get("dnd5e", "criticalDamageMaxDice"),
multiplyNumeric: game.settings.get("dnd5e", "criticalDamageModifiers")
}).formula
return {damageRoll: damageFormula, flavor: "Hunter's Mark Damage"};

[odd sable]

Cheers, that may be a better option! Doesn't that one trigger on every attack though? Or at least the first attack against any eligible target, or do you mean that I should just borrow the damage roll part that you used from Sneak Attack and insert into the Hunter's Mark macro?

[jagged bear]

Is it intentional that nothing happens when I click to roll an item that only has a damage roll, but no specific target? Ie, the type of target is None.

I would expect to be able to still be able to use the feature

[violet meadow]

Try this ItemMacro | After Active Effects ```js
const targets = MidiQOL.findNearby(1, args[0].actorUuid, 30, {includeIncapacitated:true})
if (!targets.length) return ui.notifications.info("No allies in range to heal");
const damage = args[0].damageList[0].totalDamage;
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage([{damage, type:"healing"}],damage, new Set(targets), {},{})

[tepid dock]

This is the healing portion yea?

[violet meadow]

Replace the snippet you shared with that one. The rest of the macro is up to you

[scarlet gale]

What's your midi targeting rules set to?

[tepid dock]

Geez... almost embarrassed to put this here, but this is what I had ended up with before your post.

async function divineStorm() {
  const actor = game.user.character;
  const resourceName = "Holy Power";
  const holyPowerCost = 6;
  const radius = 10;
  const damageDice = "5d6";
  
  const resource = getResource(actor, resourceName);
  const currentValue = getResourceValue(actor, resource);

  if (currentValue < holyPowerCost) {
    ui.notifications.warn("You do not have enough Holy Power to use Divine Storm.");
    return;
  }
  
  await updateResource(actor, resource, currentValue - holyPowerCost);
  
  const saveDC = 8 + actor.system.attributes.prof + actor.system.abilities.cha.mod;
  const damageRoll = new Roll(`${damageDice} + @mod`, { mod: actor.system.abilities.cha.mod }).roll();
  
  const targets = Array.from(game.user.targets);
  const allies = [];
  const enemies = [];

  targets.forEach(target => {
    if (target.actor.isPC) {
      allies.push(target);
    } else {
      enemies.push(target);
    }
  });

  const saveData = {
    type: "dex",
    dc: saveDC,
    flavor: "Divine Storm Dexterity Saving Throw"
  };

  MidiQOL.rollSave(enemies, saveData, { callback: async (data) => {
    const damageData = {
      damage: damageRoll.total,
      type: "radiant",
      flavor: "Divine Storm Damage"
    };

    const halfDamageData = {
      damage: Math.floor(damageRoll.total / 2),
      type: "radiant",
      flavor: "Divine Storm Damage (Half)"
    };

    for (const target of data.targets) {
      const isFail = data.results[target.id].failed;
      const damageToApply = isFail ? damageData : halfDamageData;

      await new MidiQOL.DamageOnlyWorkflow(
        actor, target, damageToApply.damage, damageToApply.type, [target], damageRoll, { flavor: damageToApply.flavor }
      );
    }

    // Heal allies
    for (const ally of allies) {
      await new MidiQOL.HealingOnlyWorkflow(
        actor, ally, damageRoll.total, "healing", [ally], damageRoll, { flavor: "Divine Storm Healing" }
      );
    }
  }});
}

divineStorm();```

[jagged bear]

Ah, it was set to in combat - I would expect a feature that doesn't require a target to still be rollable though

Ie, if I have these settings, it shouldn't require me to target something

[violet meadow]

That part MidiQOL.HealingOnlyWorkflow is not valid AFAIK

[jagged bear]

For things like battlemaster's precision maneuver, or in this case, interception fighting style

They don't target anyone, they are just... rolls

[violet meadow]

Yeah it won't let it go forward.

[scarlet gale]

Could set it to self then make sure the damage is set to no damage

[jagged bear]

I might log a bug/request

[scarlet gale]

If you just want a cheap way to roll a dice

[violet meadow]

Are you "rolling" the Item to add the bonus/malus to the reaction roll?

[jagged bear]

Essentially I've built a mini system that allows my player to interrupt the damage roll to roll the interception; but it cannot be rolled if they don't target anyone, so I can't use riding effects such reaction management and such. I can do that myself, but it would be ideal to just be able to handle that stuff automatically 😄

Esp since "no target required" seems to me that one should still be able to roll the "damage" roll tied to a feature

It's a minor gripe

[tepid dock]

Here is how I set it up, but still doesnt function, its either damaging the ally also, or I have to single target and healing still doesn't apply anywhere.

[narrow saddle]

Hello folks,

Is anyone aware if Magic Items Module does work with Midi-Qol?

I am about to start a session so I can't really investigate right now, so thought I would ask a quick question to see. 🙂

Problem, when I cast an AOE spell from a magic item, and then place the template, when I go to click damage I get prompted to place the template. And then it gets stuck there.

[scarlet gale]

it's glitchy at best

[violet meadow]

Try this ItemMacro ```js
if(!args[0].damageList[0]?.totalDamage) return ui.notifications.info("You didn't damage anyone");
const targets = MidiQOL.findNearby(1, args[0].tokenUuid, 30, {includeIncapacitated:true})
if (!targets.length) return ui.notifications.info("No allies in range to heal");
const damage = args[0].damageList[0].totalDamage;
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage([{damage, type:"healing"}],damage, new Set(targets), null,new Set(),{})

[tepid dock]

Do I make it a radius measured template or just a targeted ability

[violet meadow]

Nah just 10 feet enemy is fine

then you said 30 ft radius ally heal?

Should be good then

[tepid dock]

Got this

[violet meadow]

Grab the macro again

What version of MidiQOL are you on?

[tepid dock]

Just updated modules today, so I assume the latest, as Midi wasn't in the list.

10.0.35

[violet meadow]

should be working

[tepid dock]

Damn right it does! Amazing! You rock bugbear! Last question, but if I wanted it to heal for the cumulative damage done, would that be hard to modify? So I hit 3 enemies for 15 each, should heal 45 to all players?

Nvm.... wont need it, this is working as the player intended.

[violet meadow]

You can do lots of stuff. Like add the appliedDamage and then divide it to the allies equally, as needed, choosing amount etc.
Sky is the limit 😄

[tepid dock]

await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage([{damage, type:"healing"}],damage, new Set(targets), {},{}) I assume changing that to this line would be it?

[violet meadow]

Would be a bit trickier that than. This line only creates the damage card to heal all targets (allies in this case in 30ft radius)

The more you want to do the more convoluted the macro gets 😅

[tepid dock]

Gotcha, well this works as is so I appreciate it

[violet meadow]

You can get the total (actual after resistances etc) applied damage like this```js
if(!args[0].damageList[0]?.totalDamage) return ui.notifications.info("You didn't damage anyone");
const targets = MidiQOL.findNearby(1, args[0].tokenUuid, 30, {includeIncapacitated:true})
if (!targets.length) return ui.notifications.info("No allies in range to heal");

const totalAppliedDamage = args[0].damageList.reduce(function (acc,obj) {return acc + obj.appliedDamage}, 0);

const damage = Math.floor(totalAppliedDamage/targets.length);
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage([{damage, type:"healing"}],damage, new Set(targets), null,new Set(),{})

That will divide the appliedDamage equally to the allies and heal them for that amount.
No actual use as it will heal for the same amount all of them, which more ofter that not, wont be the total cause of ... math 😄

[snow quarry]

How do you make the item roll an ability check? I'm sorry, I am a fool- I've been poking around and googling with no avail 😥

[short aurora]

That should be it, with the exception of default being Intelligence for your case, right? And you want to add a Saving Throw DC, your 15

No need for the damage formula

Saving Throw DC just means DC, actually >_>

[snow quarry]

oh... ok, I was gonna say, since its a CHECK

[short aurora]

Yeah, I know, but you can't populate the DC field until you pick one

and it wont roll otherwise

[snow quarry]

right, now I get "no targets to save" I appreciate you walking me through this

[short aurora]

Oh right, add an Activation Cost and target Self

[snow quarry]

oh an i found the credits thing: system.currency.gc

[short aurora]

#1010273821401555087 message so here at the top where it says Activation Cost 0 blank, add anything you want this to be, like 1 Action or 1 Special or 1 Bonus Action, whichever, and make target Self

Oh, sounds like it's v10 then? just replace gp with gc in the macro earlier then. ... Is it called gold credits? lol

wait galactic credits, I membered

[snow quarry]

im on v9 still

[short aurora]

then I am just uninformed, thought v9 was still the data.data era, but same principle, should still just replace

[snow quarry]

Noice. the Rolling is working now. Any way to have it add their proficiency, / expertise if they have it?

its essentially a tool they are using

"slicer's kit"

[short aurora]

HMMM, in dnd5e terms, that should probably have been separate items then, maybe bugbear has a clean fix

[violet meadow]

No not clean at all. But I was contemplating this exact issue.

I ended up "updating" the DC accordingly.

ItemMacro after the target is selected. If it is meant to be an Athletics check for instance and the target has expertise, you reduce the DC by double the target's proficiency score

[snow quarry]

it it were like a normal roll, a dialog would pop asking for a situational bonus, but this does not appear to d othat

[short aurora]

That should be a midi setting unless sw5e does stuff, the fast forwarding. How do you push into an "active" workflow again, bb?

that's bugbear not inappropriate work titles

[violet meadow]

in a macro, this will get you the workflow

and depending on the Hooks you use (or macro trigger phases, you can change various stuff)

[snow quarry]

Hmm maybe a classic 'if then' xpyld be used in the macro. I don't NEED the pop-up, ID rather have an ugly but working fix.

It's d&d, not school- won't get graded on efficiency

[short aurora]

Do you intend to add more hackable consumables like this? I'd nearly be more tempted to just make it interact with Slicer's Kit somehow, that way you do it "right"

design is kinda wonky rn by system standards

[snow quarry]

That said, if someone who excels in macros could edit to code to say something like ," due to your expertise" the DC has been lowered to X

Just have 3 options, default, proficiency and expertise

And it's multiple versions of the same item

Due to trying to automate things its best for me to apply this to the base of each item, then adjust the value accordingly

[short aurora]

The macro is looking at success/fail of the workflow, so it needs to edit it on the fly

[wraith spade]

@violet meadow Just for your information, basically all midi-sample items which reference an ItemMacro like sneak attack are not working right now. Trying Rage currently and it doesn't apply the extra damage

[violet meadow]

Change them to ItemMacro.name of the feature on the sidebar

eg ItemMacro.Rage

Then delete the old items and drag the altered ones on the Actor again

[vast bane]

New Midi's are 50/50 likely to be stable. I'd recommend 33 for now. If you downgrade to 33, you have to downgrade CPR also

[broken wolf]

where can i find a walkthrough for setting up concentrator in midi? not a fan of the CUB one

[vast bane]

oh unless its that easy to fix nm

[inland vortex]

I was watching tutorial with Tim Posney where he talked about bardic inspiration. He showed that you gave each player the Bardic Inspiration sample item from the compendium, and that allows the prompt to come up for them to use the inspiration dice. That item isn't in my Midiqol sample items compendium. I don't know if it's only in the v10 compendium, or if there is a way I can get it

[vast bane]

it is most definitely in the v10 and v9 compendiums but CPR does it better

however CPR requires midi 35 after version 90

@scarlet gale can players use the CPR button on the top bar of the items?

[snow quarry]

Bummer, I thought I was onto something!

[inland vortex]

what is cpr?

[vast bane]

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/wiki/MidiQOL-activation-conditions-examples

[inland vortex]

thank you

[vast bane]

(Chris' Premades Module)

[short aurora]

Can you take a snip of your options when using an onUse macro? The part that probably says "After active effects" for you right now here

[snow quarry]

I uhh... haven't gotten around to the macro part yet. They take me a bit to comprehend (plus I'm TECHNCIALLY at eork)

[broken wolf]

which is likely to have the concentrator thing im looking for?

[short aurora]

Sure, I just need to know which options are available "back then" so I don't amend a fix that don't work for ya :p

[vast bane]

i have no idea what you speak of

[short aurora]

Just beep when ready

[vast bane]

midi has its own concentration managing built into it you shouldn't need to install any modules for that

[broken wolf]

thats good, now to figure why it isnt working then lol

[vast bane]

probably modules

do you have CUB managing concentration or Concentration Notifier running?

[broken wolf]

CUB manager is off

[vast bane]

and do you have midi concentration settings right?

[broken wolf]

not sure, thats why i asked earlier if someone could point me to finding out how to set all that up (assumed it was on by default, seems important)

[vast bane]

open your midi settings, concentration is not hard to find

[scarlet gale]

Dm only

[broken wolf]

got it, lemme test now

[vast bane]

I am noticing that you are using CUB for conditions, that is an abnormal meta in modern midi, also if you have dfred and cub...that could be your cause too, its highly recommended to use dfred and disable enhanced conditions/condition lab in CUB if you use the two

[scarlet gale]

The sample items one is fine for bardic inspiration. Mine just also includes the Tasha's optional magical inspiration

[inner mulch]

is there a way to make a ritual spell actually take the required time?

[broken wolf]

@vast bane seems to be working now, but its not actually rolling the dice on the screen which is fine, can see in chat

[vast bane]

you could modify the spells casting time manually if it can be cast normally duplicate it, but its really a needless cosmetic change

[vast bane]

aren't you one of those fellas who did not like automated saves?

[inner mulch]

how do i change the casting time. thats what i wanted but couldnt figure it out

[vast bane]

thats probably why its not rolling 3d dice, its set to auto

[vast bane]

look at the item details

[broken wolf]

no, i want them to roll saves, ideally, any roll will have dice on screen, whether they have to manually roll it or auto roll it, as long as dice are on the screen idc

[inner mulch]

im an idiot i found it

[vast bane]

then don't assign your save setup to auto, or a non existent third party module, and don't put a blank value in the delay in saves

if you are on midi 33, theres a bug with MTB save requests that I've personally never seen that causes that

[wraith spade]

This worked, but the name of the feature doesn't have to be the one in the sidebar, it has to be the one on the character sheet. I have in the sidebar Rage 10.0.15 and on the sheet Rage, it only works with ItemMacro.Rage

[vast bane]

Auto in the 3 drop downs will cause no 3d dice, MTB when you don't have MTB installed is the same thing as Auto

[violet meadow]

Yeah exactly

[vast bane]

he said sidebar cause you can't edit it on the actor without doing a rarely known step

it was simpler to tell you to setit up on the sidebar and drag to the actor

[broken wolf]

so if i want to see all of the dice on screen, MTB needs to be selected in all the dropdowns above

[vast bane]

to do it on the actor you would need to delete the old ae, and then edit the item and click the lil hand icon in the effect tab of the item

[vast bane]

anything but auto

[vast bane]

but you also need to have a number greater than 0 or null in the last field of my snippet

[broken wolf]

i had 40 before as that was default

[vast bane]

then you likely had auto or a nonexistent MTB/LMRTFY choice in a world without them enabled

[broken wolf]

gotcha

[vast bane]

or were experiencing the MTB bug I have yet to see myself

[broken wolf]

its still not rolling the dice, but it is letting me roll the dice via chat box

[vast bane]

manually roll a save, does it roll dice?

[wraith spade]

Rage on midi-qol doesn't work if the weapon has Default as ability modifier under weapon attack, shouldn't this be normally the relevant attribute (most of the time strength)?

[broken wolf]

when i click in the chat yes, itll roll

[vast bane]

not a dice tray roll, a save from a monster

select a goblin, roll a con save

[vast bane]

the weapon is finesse

this is a known issue

we all just didn't think a barb would use a finesse weapon

[broken wolf]

works perfectly when i select, use the dropdown to do the con roll but like if the target with concentration is hit, nothing happens

[vast bane]

you aren't the first to discover that funny interaction

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

Concentration conflicts:
Concentration Notifier Module
Combat Utility Belt Concentrator

The following modules have template settings that step on midi:
Spell Template Manager

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

Midi requires Item Macro to have its "Character sheet hooks" feature set to unchecked in order for on use macros to work right.

When editing owned items(items on actors) active effects beware of duplicating active effects that interfere. Always check the actors effect tab for rogue ae's.

If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

Midi now requires sight to be setup on all monsters or the players will get unseen attacker advantage.

[broken wolf]

using none of those other mods

disabled the conflicts

[vast bane]

show me your save and concentration settings in snippets

and show me the attack that you think caused concentration checks

in chat

ALSO, the versions of the following(actual version numbers)
foundry
dnd5e
midiqol
dae
socketlib
libwrapper
dfreds CE

And test with just these enabled

[wraith spade]

Can someone tell me how to end existing concentration when activating rage?

[broken wolf]

midiqol is 10.0.35
dae is 10.0.24
libwrapper is 1.12.12.0
socketlib is 1.0.12
dfreds is 4.1.1
foundry is version 10 build 291
dnd53 is 2.1.5

@vast bane

[vast bane]

what is your Monk's Tokenbar settings?

[broken wolf]

should be default, havent changed anything

[vast bane]

ok show me what it looks like in chat

attack someone whose concentrating

[vast bane]

double click on Erik and show me the effect tab of the ACTOR

double click on Erik on the map

[broken wolf]

thats the gm chat thing

[vast bane]

oh whoever the target is

[vast bane]

ctrl F5, if that doesn't fix your issue, disable all modules exxcept the ones I just asked for versions of and test agaain

if it doesn't work with all modules on, wait for someone with the new midi to try it too to see if its a midi 35 problem

I don't update to experiemental new midi's 😉

[broken wolf]

same thing

havent actually had ctrl +f5 actually fix anything anytime anyone has asked lol

[vast bane]

I'm at the point of giving up, ctrl f5 is a hail mary

[broken wolf]

no worries, thanks for trying

[vast bane]

you sure did test with all the modules off very quickly, are you not actually doing the troubleshooting?

[broken wolf]

im doing that part now lol

[vast bane]

or did you not have any other module on?

[strong yew]

Hey @scarlet gale question for you

[inland vortex]

Update on the bardic inspiration. None of the links worked in the add module importer. Most got a reply of k is undefined or not a valid path. Possibly because i'm running v9? I don't know. I uninstalled and reinstalled the midi srd that's listed in the module section for v9. It has the 2 Bardic Inspiration class features that you bards use, but not the one that just says bardic inspiration that you give the players. In the video it shows it being right above the other 2 in the compendium.

[vast bane]

CPR is v10 only

[inland vortex]

ok

[strong yew]

Checking out your stuff for Blood Hunter Lycan on one of my PCs. It's using Warpgate right? Is there an option to have the token change when in Hybrid? I see there's a let image = '' in there, but if I put anything in there it seems to break

[vast bane]

use the midi sample item in v9 midi

[broken wolf]

oh weird how do i even target the pc to attack with npc lol, that mod is off

[inland vortex]

it's not there

[vast bane]

I will never understand why anyone uses target modules, you can target someone by hovering over them and pressing the T key

how does a module need to make that simpler /shrug

[inland vortex]

i can give all the players the ability to give bardic inspiration, but not to use it

[vast bane]

When you open the midi sample items you don't see bardic at all?

[broken wolf]

mmkay attacked again, nothing

[vast bane]

at this point I give up, reinstall modules or live without concentration management

[snow quarry]

Here you are. Does the macro need to be present in foundry or can it be in a compendium? Also, does it matter what I name the macro?

[inland vortex]

no. it has the 2 that should be right below it for bards, but not the one for players

[vast bane]

you are not making sense to me, so the sample items has bardic yeah? why are you using players in that sentence?

the bardic item is rolled, and the target recieves an AE

in standard midi effect transfer, if you have that off then thats why its not working

However, you might have to wait for someone who uses v9 stil to clarify for you as I don't remember what the v9 looks like

[inland vortex]

what's an AE?

[vast bane]

maybe @spice kraken can assist here

active effects

[inland vortex]

ok

[scarlet gale]

Are you on the newest version on my module?

[vast bane]

I don't think any of this has a problem with v9 so you should see an ae like this on bardic

[inland vortex]

Our bard can give the players inspiration, and the marker shows up on their tokens

[scarlet gale]

It should be in the effect now to change the token image

[vast bane]

when the bard rolls bardic inspiriation it should apply this ae to the actor target

[inland vortex]

but the game is missing the prompt to let them roll the inspiration

[vast bane]

when they roll the right d20 check/attack, they should get a prompt asking if they want to use it

[strong yew]

Let me check, I think I'm on the newest. Was looking in the item itself rather than the settings if that's what you mean. I'll check there

[vast bane]

you aren't using midi to roll?

[inland vortex]

that's what they are missing

[vast bane]

are you a better rolls for 5e guy?

is this the reason for v9?

[inland vortex]

better rolls, yes

[vast bane]

womp womp

[scarlet gale]

If you still see it using an item macro re add the item

[inland vortex]

and that's the reasonwe are on v9

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

Concentration conflicts:
Concentration Notifier Module
Combat Utility Belt Concentrator

The following modules have template settings that step on midi:
Spell Template Manager

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

Midi requires Item Macro to have its "Character sheet hooks" feature set to unchecked in order for on use macros to work right.

When editing owned items(items on actors) active effects beware of duplicating active effects that interfere. Always check the actors effect tab for rogue ae's.

If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

Midi now requires sight to be setup on all monsters or the players will get unseen attacker advantage.

[spice kraken]

BR works on some parts with midi on v9 but not all

[vast bane]

very specifically I believe that it was always that BR rolls the initial attack, which is where his optional macro is firing from so it never gets to fire

[strong yew]

Oh, I'm on 0.1.7

did you just update it yesterday/today? lol

[vast bane]

you ultimately have very limited functionality of midi with BR in v9, anything that has to do with effect transfer and damage automationm works with midi, anything else is dead

[scarlet gale]

I update nearly every day lol

[wraith spade]

🤣 I think "Do you use Better Rolls?" is the midi-qol equivalent of "Did you turn it on and off again?"

[vast bane]

Chris is a busy beaver with that module and we all love him for it

[strong yew]

Insane amount of work going into this man. Thanks for all you're doing

[vast bane]

It is funny that I will share that copy paste and have it not be relevant but the one dang time I don't is the time it was

[inland vortex]

the whole party is elves that have the elven accuracy feat, and some have peircer. Better rolls makes that work for us. Is there another way to do all that in v10?

[scarlet gale]

I pretty much broke everything when I converted away from using item macros to the new midi function thing

[vast bane]

For Sanity's sake does any other guru see an abnormality in the attack image here? Mine don't look like this:

[strong yew]

Where do you actually set the image for hybrid? Is it on the item itself?

[scarlet gale]

The feature effect

Should have a flag I think that has a black value

[strong yew]

Oh the blank value in the effect

I see it, just needed to scroll over

[scarlet gale]

Yep. Just put the image path in that

[strong yew]

Damn, that is awesome man, thank you

[scarlet gale]

Let me know if it doesn't work

[vast bane]

couldn't you make rolling two a thing in midi by making a giant optional name macro on all monsters characters?

[violet meadow]

Yeah some CSS work probably

[scarlet gale]

Ddb has a good macro for all of those

And isn't elven accuracy a core trait?

[violet meadow]

Yes

Special traits

[vast bane]

yeah but choosing success would get screwy

[scarlet gale]

Shouldn't need anything special for that

[vast bane]

also doesn't elven accuracy need advantage to work? and its 3 instead of 2

[inland vortex]

we only got it to roll the 3 dice advantage rolls with better rools

[scarlet gale]

Yep, it does that automatically

[vast bane]

I was pondering just making an optional name macro that prompts for advantage use

[inland vortex]

unless that just started, it did not for us

[scarlet gale]

I have an elf in my game with that and it works for me

[vast bane]

could be a better rolls issue

[strong yew]

actually may have found a bug

[vast bane]

BR does not play well at all

[scarlet gale]

Yea, likely better rolls

[strong yew]

Works well, but if I click off hybrid transform effect early, it actually straight up removes the passive effect

Can't transform again

[scarlet gale]

Oh shoot

[vast bane]

BR in your midi build is handling all attack rolls

[inland vortex]

do you know if it only started in v10? or did it always work?

[scarlet gale]

That is a newer weird issue

[vast bane]

Um thats a better question for dnd5e guys

[scarlet gale]

I know how to fix it

[vast bane]

elven accuracy has been a thing for quite some time I think

[strong yew]

Oh actually, it still transforms

with the temporary effect anyway

Just loses the passive

with the img info

[vast bane]

do you know where special traits is Philip?

[inland vortex]

i'll go turn off better rolls and see what we get

i don't

[vast bane]

I have a meme just for this...

[inland vortex]

oh no

[inland vortex]

😛

[vast bane]

Its a joke on how small and easy it is to miss the cog

Not my original work, thats a Zhell meme I stole

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/chris-premades/blob/master/scripts/macros/classFeatures/bloodHunter/orderOfTheLycan/hybridTransformation.js#L129

Change item to actor on this line

I'll put a fix in when I'm home

[broken wolf]

yeah best im able to do is manually call for the constitution roll from the player, then the roll button shows in chat and they can roll the check, but its not connected to concentration, so not automated

[snow quarry]

Update: Likely user error on my end, but the macro is freaking out lol. (the type has been set to after save)

[vast bane]

one thing we never checked was, did you have errors in console

attack the concentrator, with the console open and share any red snippets

or yellow I suppose

I've seen a few yellows that have been a cause

[strong yew]

Thanks!

[broken wolf]

nah no errors

[vast bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/confused-futurama-suspicious-ANbD1CCdA3iI8

Reverse damage card....

[short aurora]

Things may well be in different places from back then. Did you correct the credits parts already?

[vast bane]

Fyi, you have your vision settings probably wrong in your world Erik

the attacker was unseen

[snow quarry]

I think so, based on the Sw5e discord. Gp became gc

[short aurora]

Unexpected identifier suggests something is a-danglin', can you post what you have in the macro here?

[broken wolf]

this particular actor is night elf with darkvision and theyre in a dark room

[vast bane]

my guess was lack of advanced macros or they are on the bad advanced macros

[short aurora]

Also pls verify you have advanced macros yes

that's what parses all the info we're using

[vast bane]

the other actor has no vision then

[broken wolf]

but you did bring my attention to something i forgot about the other day, for some reason none of my pcs are taking dmg in test combats

[kind cape]

Unexpected identifier wouldn't happen due to missing Advanced Macros, just fyi

[short aurora]

I should have trusted myself, the cheese reveals

just post macro pls

[broken wolf]

oh yeah, this acolyte cant see for jack lol

[snow quarry]

    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: The credit card <i>explodes</i>. You get nothing. You should have stayed a nerfherder.
    },{});
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
}
else {
    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: Easy creds, ${args[0].item.data.price.value} credits shoots into your account. You nonchalantly discard the wiped card.
    },{});
    const currentCredits = args[0].actor.system.currency.gc;
    await args[0].actor.update({"system.currency.gc": currentCredits + args[0].item.data.price.value})
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
} ```

[vast bane]

add a js at the end of the first 3 backticks

```js
paste here
```

[kind cape]

Missing a ; on line 22 (4th from the bottom)

[short aurora]

Where did the backticks go I posted the macro with? :p

[vast bane]

doesn't matter Fotoply caught it without the helper colorization lol

[violet meadow]

; don't matter

[snow quarry]

I typed them, but i guess the space made it sad

[broken wolf]

okay switched to goblin so that addresses the vision thing

[short aurora]

The backticks from the messages are gone, I mean

[broken wolf]

but now i need to fix this

[kind cape]

Oh thats true, I'm too used to more strict languages 😂

[broken wolf]

cause pcs are taking no dmg

[violet meadow]

What is there to fix?

[kind cape]

The actual error is this part

[broken wolf]

also, do i need to manually turn on vision for all monster actors as i use them?

[vast bane]

export your midi settings and take someone elses settings, does anyone here have a share of fast forward settings for Erik?

I have abnormal settings I don't wanna give him something he'd not use

[kind cape]

I think..

[broken wolf]

ive been using @violet meadow settings for the most part

[kind cape]

I hate JS, but I am pretty sure that is not allowed

[short aurora]

 if (args[0].failedSaves.length != 0){
    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: `The credit card <i>explodes</i>. You get nothing. You should have stayed a nerfherder.`
    },{});
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
}
else {
    ChatMessage.create({
        user: game.user._id,
        speaker: ChatMessage.getSpeaker(),
        content: `Easy creds, ${args[0].item.data.price.value} credits shoots into your account. You nonchalantly discard the wiped card.`
    },{});
    const currentCredits = args[0].actor.system.currency.gc;
    await args[0].actor.update({"system.currency.gc": currentCredits + args[0].item.data.price.value})
    const deleteItem = await fromUuid(args[0].itemUuid);
    await args[0].actor.deleteEmbeddedDocuments("Item",[deleteItem.id]);
}```

Try this

[violet meadow]

Or uncheck the vision check in midi settings

[vast bane]

this is more a thing of trying to fix corrupt settings

[broken wolf]

ahh

[vast bane]

sometimes midi can get crossed up

[vast bane]

no that was a side problem

his actual problem is concentration is not checking

[violet meadow]

That $ is off

[vast bane]

and I'm unable to find his problem, he has accurate settings and no module conflicts and no errors

[kind cape]

And the backticks are missing 😂

[snow quarry]

heyy that worked! you're all a bunch of geniuses

[short aurora]

tell mensa

[snow quarry]

Now i just gotta fart around with it to see if I can get it to work for a TOOL check... that part seems unlikely.

[strong yew]

Hmm. For some reason my booming blade macro is broken all of a sudden

[violet meadow]

Quick recap would do wonders. 😁

[vast bane]

@broken wolf heres my shitty non fast forward settings to test for you, back your settings up first with a quick export you don't want mine

[short aurora]

quasi related, how the heck do I programmatically update the workflow? I tried to peek for examples but could not quite find one

[violet meadow]

Does it have a on update target dae?

[vast bane]

when he rolls damage on a target they don't make concentration saves

[violet meadow]

What do you need done?

[short aurora]

I wanted to try and examplify what you mentioned before, adjusting the item's DC on the fly, but the syntax.. it-a gone

[strong yew]

It does indeed

[vast bane]

I wonder if midi 35 has an issue with concentration?

[violet meadow]

Latest DAE issue

Downgrade

[vast bane]

or dae 24

[violet meadow]

Nope

[broken wolf]

okay what did you do with yours cause it works fine when i import yours @vast bane

[strong yew]

Is there a safe version?

[broken wolf]

and the tokens even taking dmg when hit too

[strong yew]

Like, last known safe version I mean

[violet meadow]

.23

[strong yew]

awesome, thank you. I'll check that out

[violet meadow]

But not sure about kinks

[vast bane]

I never checked your old settings for damage but my guess is you had a bad setting in damage

[strong yew]

was going through my player's skills to make sure everything is working since they're in like a gauntlet

[short aurora]

So that is a pass or fail macro. Are you making each Credit Card a tool now to circumvent the proficiency/expertise thing?

[strong yew]

going to be pure combat for like 2 sessions, so don't want to debug during session lol

[broken wolf]

if im looking right, you have all rolls manual yes?

[vast bane]

Yes, the superior way of using midi /sarcasm

its just fast forward off fyi

well...

maybe a few other abnormals

[short aurora]

"circumvent" being "doing it the right way" but, y'know

[broken wolf]

i may just run with this and adjust as needed, also whats the fast forward thing even do?

[snow quarry]

no.. im not quite sure how it want ot approach it. i was hoping to somehow use the ability check / custom formula against the DC. but idk if thats possible

[vast bane]

just go to the GM and player tabs of workflow and check the boxes for fast forward and you should be pretty much back to what you had

[violet meadow]

I could connect tomorrow to your world to check out what's up if you still need help

[vast bane]

I'm almost certain that your problem was a damage setting so that shouldn't affect you if you change to FF

If you restore you rold settings we can look at your damage settings, My guess is the enhanced roll dialog was off or something

[snow quarry]

Also it doesnt seem to be depositing the money into the player's account. Could be SW5e related. probably something i need to adjust in the macro

[broken wolf]

ill stick with this for now and modify as needed, its working is all i know lol

i can upload my old ones here if you wanna check them though

[vast bane]

oh god no

[broken wolf]

LOL

[vast bane]

I personally believe that importing others settings is a last resort, thats how you get messed up settings sometimes lol

[broken wolf]

makes sense

[inland vortex]

Ok, better rolls off, elven accuracy and bardic inspiration working fine! However; we use the flanking to get advantage for melee attacks rule. Can midiqol do that?

[short aurora]

That should definitely spit out an error, if it fails to update the currency. What does console say?

In terms of how you want it, we can just make each credit card a tool and judge the tool's roll instead. We can also try and mimic bugbear's suggestion from earlier and adjust the DC mid workflow if you prefer. Either's doable eventually. Eventually being when I recall how to update a workflow.

[vast bane]

I'm like 90% sure you had the first checkbox in damage off and thats what broke concentration

[broken wolf]

can you explain the convenient effect flanking only to advantage only for check flanking?

[scarlet gale]

Yep. It's a setting

[inland vortex]

ty

[vast bane]

best handled if you use dfreds CE fwiw

[broken wolf]

our houserules always have flanking but not sure what that convenient thing is here

[scarlet gale]

The sample items effect and the CE one are very likely exactly the same

[inland vortex]

it's a setting in Dfred's or midiqol?

[vast bane]

midi, its a drop down to choose from

[broken wolf]

oh i mean like whats the difference, i think i had ti on advantage only befoe

[violet meadow]

Go conga or go home

That one will use MidiQOL only

[vast bane]

I honestly don't know what congo line is, I'm guessing its when you chain actors across like checkers

[snow quarry]

That is my error log. I must unfortunately step away for a bit.

The original plan is to have each tier of credit chip as an item (consumable) then simple adjust the value as the contents of the card. I can certainly change the card to a tool though too. I think.

[scarlet gale]

I still insist conga lines are easily fixed with a lightning bolt

[violet meadow]

Yeah like a train of ally enemy ally enemy will not have advantage

[vast bane]

You are like the electrical Fizban

He thought fireball was a solution to everything

[inland vortex]

There are things fireball is not a solution to?

[scarlet gale]

I may be playing a tempest domain cleric, storm sorcerer right now...

[violet meadow]

Is it not for all when they turn lvl 5?

[broken wolf]

yeah totally working perfectly now

[strong yew]

Hmm. Didn't actually seem to be my issue. Downgraded. Getting two errors in log.

[short aurora]

That's a "we can't find certain elements that come before currency and therefore can't find currency either" error, presumably from this line args[0].actor.system.currency.gc. You'll have to debug that yourself or let me connect to your world at some point, might be easier.

[strong yew]

Oh boy those are much larger than I thought they'd be

[vast bane]

a module with a colon in its name

how...does that folder work?

[scarlet gale]

You have an out of date automation of mine

[broken wolf]

so pretty much im staying away from CUB if i dont want issues again right? @vast bane

[scarlet gale]

Check your features that use on use macros and update them

[vast bane]

for CUB, you can use it, I do even, just disable concentration in it and disable enhanced conditions

use CUB for its other features

[strong yew]

Oh, interesting. I just did a fresh import yesterday

for the chars

[vast bane]

I use it for name hiding and hp rolling of monsters

[violet meadow]

Chris does 20 updates per day sooooo

[scarlet gale]

I had a breaking update

[vast bane]

Chris is a Tabaxi, and uses Feline Agility on his module work

[broken wolf]

thats what brought me down this rabbit hole and i forgot all about it lol, hp rolling

[violet meadow]

I am trying so hard to not push a breaking update for midi SRD and makes things trickier

[vast bane]

Cub is the goto right now in most metas because tokenmold and Token Variant Art modules currently have a conflict and theres no solution for them.

[kind cape]

Anonymous can also do the hiding and has support for Midi 😉

[vast bane]

and who can live without aedifs modules amirite? I yeeted token mold over that lol

[violet meadow]

There is. Use warpgate for everything

[scarlet gale]

That's why I version jumped from 0.0.90 to 0.1.0

[vast bane]

its not the name hiding thats the issue, its the hp rolling, TVA and token mold conflict now so I can't use token mold so I went with CUB for hp rolling...so I naturally yeeted anonymous to save a module slot

[violet meadow]

I never roll hp

[strong yew]

completely fresh reimport of the character, and there's no premade for booming blade

same issue

[vast bane]

Very specifically aedif said its a thing he can't fix, but token mold will revert tokens just like the ATE wildcard bug on TVA affectd actors

[scarlet gale]

I shouldn't have another breaking change until the new function feature is fixed by Tposney

[broken wolf]

our 2nd houserule is always monster full hp, but we usually play with 7+ people lol

[kind cape]

Ohh, I remember looking into a similar bug with Levels and Token Mold, through I did end up getting Ripper to hack around that

[violet meadow]

Yeah I had an issue like that in the srd spells...

Lol

[vast bane]

I prefer my monsters to be fully random, infact... avert your eyes Guru's....

[scarlet gale]

Oh boy

[broken wolf]

oh i like that

[vast bane]

This is like looking into the sun on a solar eclipse

[scarlet gale]

That's is in dire need of a world script

[broken wolf]

does it always random every stat when you pull from actors?

[violet meadow]

My players never know if I change something mid battle to spice things up

[strong yew]

Hmm. Actually I get the premade error on every attack weirdly

[vast bane]

I actually can't have it be a macro, zhell even shared the macro to me to replace this

[broken wolf]

so like if you pulled 5, theyd all be different>

[strong yew]

right before it would prompt the damage card to apply coming out

[scarlet gale]

Yep. Delete any effect's from my premades

Then update them

You have an one use macro somewhere using the old effect

[vast bane]

one thing I really need for this trick, I need a macro that changes all attacks to finesse and the drop down to default on the attacks

[short aurora]

... Is it really this simple to adjust a DC in a workflow?

const workflow = MidiQOL.Workflow.getWorkflow(args[0].itemUuid);
console.log(workflow.item.system.save.dc);
await setProperty(workflow, "item.system.save.dc", 300);```

[vast bane]

but I suck at macros

so I manually change them all

[violet meadow]

Yeap

[short aurora]

wtf

[strong yew]

Just on this character? or could it just be anywhere?

[vast bane]

cause this randomizer can turn a strength attacker into a dex attacker

[scarlet gale]

On that actor

[broken wolf]

does CUB randomize names like tokenmold?

[violet meadow]

You can change almost everything in a live workflow

[vast bane]

no it hides them

[snow quarry]

Do I have your permission to send you a DM with the world link? What level access would you need?

[violet meadow]

World script

[broken wolf]

oh so like if they hover over they dont see anything?

[broken wolf]

isnt that a setting you can turn off?

[vast bane]

they see what you put in these fields

[scarlet gale]

this.item.system.save.dc = whatever ``` if you want to condense that

[violet meadow]

Man is really hard to monitor the thread on a phone right now

[vast bane]

yeah midi is quite active right now

[violet meadow]

Slow mode please

[vast bane]

I wonder if we have more messages than dnd5e lol

[short aurora]

Sure, go ahead. Player rights for just looking what you need to fix should be sufficient

[vast bane]

half the stuff we deal with isn't even midi though so...

[broken wolf]

@vast bane they always send people here though lol

[short aurora]

2x wtf, that's too easy

[violet meadow]

Midi power

And doesn't need any updates or db interactions

[vast bane]

I'd totally switch to anonymous if it read the gender on tidy sheet flags so I could do Karen OR Chad

[broken wolf]

@vast bane i want this for random hp right?

[scarlet gale]

My storm sphere does some sneaky non db token movements

To get the origin of the attack to be correct

[kind cape]

Could always do a feature request 😂

[vast bane]

what would the null name be though