MidiQOL

[vast bane]

answer bugbears question

[magic kraken]

It's a bit more specific

So no?

[vast bane]

then be more specific

[magic kraken]

Or at least I don't think so

Please read again Moto

[high delta]

sorry but what do you mean DR flags?

[vast bane]

This is heavy armor master

[high delta]

Thanks a lot mate

[vast bane]

@magic kraken from what you described, what bugbear shared for a snippet is exactly what you want but its all weapons not just a singular weapon. If you want a specific weapon to do it thats gonna be macros probably or an activation condition.

[magic kraken]

Yeah I should probably just start mounting some macro to do it

[high delta]

can I make this somehow relevant to wearing heavy armor?

[magic kraken]

Make it an effect of the armor they are wearing

[vast bane]

do they have the feat called heavy armor master
?

no don't make it part of the armor

make it an ae on the feature

because they can wear any armor

if you really wanted it perfect, you'd probably have to get bugbear or chris to make it perfect but I'd just attach it to Heavy Armor Master feature, apply on equip, and call it a day cause your heavy armor master will rarely not wear heavy armor and you can just disable the ae when they aren't wearing heavy

[strange dagger]

I assume this is a pretty easy thing to do... and I remember seeing some sort of flanking rules. Is there a way to make the flanking automatically +2 to hit with midi?

[scarlet gale]

Set midi to use CE for flanking effects

Then just copy the CE flanking effect and customize it to your liking

[vast bane]

Since I don't fast forward, I'd probably put another key in:

this way my AR message will remind me, the dm, to make sure they have heavy before benefitting from the feature

[vast bane]

are you sure you want that

alot of people think making flanking a +2 is a nerf to flanking but its actually a net gain for flanking

cause then it stacks with advantage which is already ridiculously easy to get

[strange dagger]

Yeah I know lol

I'm running a very bizarre campaign tho

[vast bane]

pallies and barbs don't need more broken modifiers

[dark canopy]

but to the actual question -- can it be changed?

[vast bane]

yes chris answered it already

if you use cub you must switch to dfreds CE

[strange dagger]

I'm using dfreds

[lost estuary]

That sounds awesome, you ever share it? I have been playing with World scripter, and looking for ways to automate further.

[opaque patrol]

I wonder if there is a way to get the +2 flanking only if one doesn't have advantage

[quiet solar]

In my previous question about templates, apparently more is broken - after 10 rounds, the concentrating expires but none of the effects of the faerie fire spell do (still have tokenmagic effect, still have advantage against them, still have template and "expired" doesn't remove the concentration effect, just annotates it:

[violet meadow]

<#1010273821401555087 message> relevant

edit: Somewhat relevant as to why this might be difficult.
I re-read what you asked... 😶‍🌫️

[violet meadow]

Can you try on a new world with everything updated to latest?

[violet meadow]

I need to find that and will share.

[foggy valve]

I'm having some issues troubleshooting Midi-QOL. For some attacks, it is automating nicely. Player rolls the hit, it determines if it hits or misses, and if it hits, do the damage, and it applies to the monster. My attacks as the GM seem okay.....

However.....this isn't the same for the players. Some are fine, some are not. I've checked their Midi-QOL settings on their end, and they are all the same.

For testing I'm using a module to allow me to manually input the roll of the die so I don't have to re-roll multiple times to get a hit, miss, or crit. For this player, they have multiple weapons. For a specific weapon it works fine, for all others, it rolls, but there is no adjudication, and if he rolls damage, I have to manually apply it.

Where can I look for why this is happening? I'm testing logged in as him on one window, and running my GM view in Foundry directly. In my GM window, it works fine. Dagger is the one that works properly.

This is happening in multiple campaigns. I figure if I can solve this campaign, the rest will fall into place.

AC to hit is 18.

[violet meadow]

Is there a red error reading undefined coverTotalBonus or something to that effect?

Open console by pressing f12

[vast bane]

my monster warpgate macro has broken and I don't know what it could be.

const duration = duplicate(args[0].item.system.duration);

is this system ok?

[violet meadow]

Yeah but probably this will not do anything if that goes up to the AE directly

[vast bane]

Actually I figured it out, the player redragged the spell and it was missing its item macro entry

[foggy valve]

Weird. I had to reboot my computer for a non-foundry issue and it's now working. Very weird.

I'm going to go through all my modules and players and see what happens. It's odd as this has been a multiple session issue.

[foggy valve]

I got this in the window where I'm loaded as the Player.

My GM console is nothing....

And the rapier didn't do its automation this time

[violet meadow]

Yes it comes up a lot

Set the midi property no full cover in the details page of the weapon

Checkbox at the bottom

[foggy valve]

Is this something I should do for every weapon and attack spell (or just wait until one of them is borking)

[scarlet gale]

IIRC you can uncheck it after the fact

it just needs to get toggled for some weird reason

[foggy valve]

Okay, that at least gives me something. So a bug then.

[violet meadow]

For some reasonmidiProperties are not set when this happens. Might be a weird interaction with dndbeyond importer, but there was another user saying that they could reproduce with SRD items.

I wonder if deactivating Dndbeyond Importer fixes this 🤷

[dark canopy]

looks like its a nested object, so without midi adding that object (or taking nullish precautions) on item creation, it will error until the nested object is set (via toggling the value)

[violet meadow]

Exactly. It is matter of a ? to solve for good, at utils.js:1907 midiProperties?.ignoreTotalCover

[violet meadow]

@magic kraken a macro to at least roll critical damage based on that targetAC calculation.
On Use MidiQOL macro on the item you want to have the extra critical range.
ItemMacro | After Attack Roll ```js
if (!args[0].hitTargets?.length) return;
const targetAC = Number(args[0].hitTargets[0].actor.system.attributes.ac.value) + 10;
if (this.attackTotal >= targetAC) this.isCritical = true;

You would need to re-render the message to get the critical hit text and color.

[fair bridge]

hello, sorry if this is asked a lot, is it possible to have the effect of pack tactics automatically?

I did find the flag that makes all my attacks have advantage but it doesnt check whether there is an ally within 5 ft of my target, it simply always attacks with advantage

[violet meadow]

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The flag value can be a condition to check if it's true or false

flags.midi-qol.advantage.attack.mwak | Custom | findNearby(-1, targetUuid, 5, 0).length > 1

[violet meadow]

Actor onUse macro when using DFreds CE and MidiQOL Flanking option. ```js
Hooks.once("dnd5e.preRollAttack", (item, config) => {
if (!config.advantage && item.actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label==="Flanking")) {
config.parts.push("2")
item.actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label==="Flanking").delete()
}
})

Will add 2 to the Attack Roll and delete the Flanking AE.
Downside, that you need to retarget to get the Flanking AE going again...

But you can ```js
Hooks.once("dnd5e.preRollAttack", (item, config) => {
if (!config.advantage && item.actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label==="Flanking")) {
config.parts.push("2")
//item.actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label==="Flanking").delete()
game.dfreds.effectInterface.removeEffect({effectName:"Flanking",actorUuid:item.actor.uuid})
Hooks.once("dnd5e.rollAttack", (item, roll) => {
game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect({effectName:"Flanking",actorUuid:item.actor.uuid})
})
}
})

🤣

[fair bridge]

thank you a lot 🙂 !

[vast bane]

lol this needs to be added to the activation conditions cause thats amazing

[violet meadow]

Was editing the post, but realised its not an actual activation condition.

[vast bane]

wait a minute

[violet meadow]

I will add it with a note to pack tactics

[vast bane]

can that also be sneak attack lol?

[violet meadow]

That will give advantage

not extra damage

[vast bane]

yeah but could you actually pull off other formula activation condition for sneak attack now?

[violet meadow]

ye

[vast bane]

if find nearby is useable and workflow.advantage

obviously it would break more than once a turn though

just funny how far midi is coming along lol

[violet meadow]

You can have just a macro to set a flag that sneak attack is used this round, and the rest activation conditions 😄

[quiet solar]

I am trying this, but cannot get anything to work in the new world after updating -- will recheck old world to see if it broke more

[violet meadow]

But still you have to choose when

[vast bane]

are you using cub?

[quiet solar]

no

[vast bane]

do you have concentration automation actually on in midi?

I personally don't auto end concs

and which faerie fire are you using, is it dfreds CE's?

[quiet solar]

my own token magic animation:

[{
    filterType: "globes",
    filterId: "glowingGlobes",
    time: 0,
    color: 0xca2c92,
    distortion: 0.4,
    scale: 40,
    alphaDiscard: false,
    zOrder: 1,
    animated :
    {
      time : 
      { 
        active: true, 
        speed: 0.0008, 
        animType: "move" 
      }
    }
},
{
    filterType: "zapshadow",
    filterId: "myZap",
    alphaTolerance: 0.45,
    rank: 2
}]

await TokenMagic.addPreset("Faerie Fire", params);```

configured in Dfred's

[quiet solar]

yes

[vast bane]

like the whole thing or just auto checks

midi srd faerie fire is in need of new ATL keys I think:

[quiet solar]

maybe just the autochecks? not sure

[quiet solar]

I don't use the ATL effects, just a simple purple 'bug lights'

[vast bane]

if you indeed have a dfreds ce bug, you may want to get that posted quickly as tims already workin on 33

[quiet solar]

I'm stuck just trying to replicate this - it still has the functioning tokenmagic effects in my old world even with updates, but I can't even get those working in the new world

[quiet solar]

I didn't have the temp HP check enabled
and I had "remove conc..." set to Effects

[vast bane]

I dunno what exactly your issue is then, I just tested dfreds ce's faerie fire and its working fine for me

[quiet solar]

I've made it match yours exactly now

[vast bane]

you should use mass edit to make your custom tmfx

[quiet solar]

??

another module?

I can't keep up as it is...

[vast bane]

yeah tmfx has no front facing UI

[violet meadow]

Is the issue that the TokenMagicFX is not removed in the end 🤔 ?

[vast bane]

mass edit module he gave us a UI to edit and save tmfx filters

[quiet solar]

no - the effect doesn't expire and concentration is "expired" but not removed -- is that normal?

[vast bane]

do you have times up module?

[quiet solar]

ah - ok, I just have a macro that adds them

[quiet solar]

yes

[vast bane]

you need to make an effect macro and put a filter clear on "on deletion if you are gonna use macros for tmfx

OR, get mass edit and save the presets and use macro.tokenmagic

[violet meadow]

Do you have the Times UP option to disable instead of delete?

[quiet solar]

that's what I did (no mass edit)

[quiet solar]

this

[vast bane]

what is the ae on the actor that is misbehaving?

[quiet solar]

I don't understand

[violet meadow]

Go to Times Up settings

Is that checkbox checked?

[vast bane]

show us the ae on faerie fire

[quiet solar]

unset - as in your screenshot

[vast bane]

give us eyes on the actual items stuff

faerie fires effect tab, edit effect and show us the keys on it

[violet meadow]

I cannot understand how Concentration is disabled and not deleted.

The rest are probably byproducts of this behaviour

[vast bane]

did you check the box for suspended on dfreds CE's concentration?

[vast bane]

priority 0 👀

not sure if that matters but I never seen a 0

[quiet solar]

that's what the built-in Dfred's was set to, I had it at 20 before

[violet meadow]

that's fine

ohhhhhh

[vast bane]

yeah thats um new in dfreds

that seems problematic

[quiet solar]

where is this? in midi?

[native rivet]

Moto, mind if I peruse your grey matter after? Don't want to sidetrack from what you guys are doing, but just in case you're heading off.

[vast bane]

is your faerie fire on the item or in dfreds ce?

[quiet solar]

in Dfred's

[vast bane]

edit it

first tab

[vast bane]

whats up I can multitask

I can't get any of the 0 priority entries to transfer via midi in dfreds ce

they apply when I use dfreds alone

[native rivet]

You helped me last night. Just got off work and tried implimenting it, but I'm getting some weirdness.

If I set range and target to "self", and unclick everything under details, I get this "apply effect" tab when I use the ability... But it does nothing, nor does the intended buff activate.

[vast bane]

nm midi srd item got accidentally reused

[native rivet]

if, however, I tick "transfer to actor on equip", the stat change gets applied, regardless of whether I activate the item or not

[vast bane]

are you using ready set roll?

[native rivet]

whereas if I untick, nothing seems to activate it

[vast bane]

or effective transferral?

[native rivet]

No, I shouldn't be. I just had Midi and what seems to be a bunch of token effects, that I haven't gotten to exploring yet

[vast bane]

Then you have effect transfer turned off

[quiet solar]

??

[native rivet]

wait what tab is that, I've not seen that before

[violet meadow]

@quiet solar I cannot reproduce. I will send you my MidiQOL settings. Export yours to save them, import mine and test again.

[vast bane]

did they try with just midi/dae/socketlib/libwrapper yet?

an effect suspending on expire just screams lack of times up installed doesn't it?

[quiet solar]

sounds good - thank you

[violet meadow]

I think we had done that before 🤔

[vast bane]

did we confirm they have v10 times up?

[quiet solar]

I hadn't removed everything - I will remove all the other things

[vast bane]

or even tims times up

[quiet solar]

v10.0.3 (screenshot above, but I kind of have posted a lot of screenshots...)

[vast bane]

cause having like concentration notifier or cub could get in the way too

does defres effect panel have weird settings I use vae so I duunnno

[violet meadow]

There was a screeshot shared. Modules seem fine.
I would turn off Token Action HUD and get in its place the Token Action HUD 5e and Token Action HUD Core

[vast bane]

its midiqol's workflow button, workflow tab

[native rivet]

So I set mine to mimic yours, but I'm still not seeing the stat change

[vast bane]

can you share the keys you are using in the item, I vaguely remember pondering if you were using the right keys

[native rivet]

It did remove the description text from the chat prompt though... which is kind of nice.

forgive my ignorance... keys?

[vast bane]

edit the item, effects tab, edit effect, effect tab

[native rivet]

ah, sec

[vast bane]

does it show an icon being added to the character? When you roll it

[native rivet]

Not to the sheet at least, I'm doing this without tokens atm

[vast bane]

that duration is probably wrong, we'll need a dnd5e guy to confirm if you can put math in duration on the item details

[native rivet]

hmh

I can test that out the gate though, sec

setting it to 2 hours, did nothing

[vast bane]

f12 roll the item and look at console, any errors?

[quiet solar]

those broke badly like 3 weeks ago when I tried them. I will try again

[vast bane]

the single branch of TAH is dead now, it has alot of problems, the dual branches are the only ones getting updated now

[native rivet]

unsure what this is though

[vast bane]

wow I have got an awful inventory+ problem

I can't even open my sheets anymore with inventory+ on

[vast bane]

I am able to get your item concept to work on my end

where did you get that item

wait why is the item back to None/None for target/range?

[native rivet]

I made it..

Also, I've no idea

sec

[vast bane]

is your actor not linked?

double right click the token and make sure its actor data is checked

[native rivet]

should be, sec, making sure I didn't mess that up

I'm trying to make it all myself, as I figured it's a good way to learn what it all does

[vast bane]

midi item effect transfer relies upon target/range settings on the item details and in 2.1.x I believe they added none to the drop down or something and its bad for midi

[native rivet]

rgr, I deleted the char, reapplied to make sure it's got the compendium verison, and it's set to self

[vast bane]

get rid of the weird druid duration entry, set it to an integer

[native rivet]

add a static duration, or set it to none?

[vast bane]

This works

and dae has a debug message on for the gurus:

[native rivet]

that's so weird... Mine doesn't

[vast bane]

show me the same four images of your item on your character

[native rivet]

wait

yours is a feature, mine is a class feature

does that impact anything?

[vast bane]

thats a cosmetic thing that doesn't matter

show me the effect tab of the ACTOR

[vast bane]

and when it rolls, nothing appears there?

[native rivet]

nothing

[vast bane]

what does it look like in chat when it rolls

[native rivet]

all I get, as proof of clicking that button, is this

and pressing that does nothing

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

The following modules have template settings that step on midi:
Spell Template Manager
SIFT(Spells, Items, Features Toolkit)

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

Midi requires Item Macro to have its "Character sheet hooks" feature set to unchecked in order for on use macros to work right.

When editing owned items(items on actors) active effects beware of duplicating active effects that interfere. Always check the actors effect tab for rogue ae's.

If you are on dnd5e 2.0.3, I recommend midi 23 or 24, dae 14, and dfreds 3.1.1
If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

don't gloss over this, cause you very likely have one of the listed modules

[native rivet]

checking

[vast bane]

Ready Set Roll, Effective Transferral

or Whistlers something something aka WIRE

OR, you never hit save in midis settings which we all do from time to time

[native rivet]

not that I can see, no

[vast bane]

go to midi's settings and check your effect transfer setting, did you forget to hit save?

[native rivet]

...

let me, eh,... check that last one

no, damn... also not it. It's set to what I copied from you

[vast bane]

does the actor have a token on the map

[native rivet]

not yet

[vast bane]

ding ding ding

[native rivet]

so

weird thing

[vast bane]

midi needs tokens

[native rivet]

adding a token

I get a small text upon key press

but the stats still don't change

[vast bane]

show me the actors effect tab

[native rivet]

flip side, now I don't need to press "apply"

[vast bane]

but for the record the actor has 10 for all stats....

[native rivet]

oooh!

It's there 😄

[vast bane]

its wis and str are 10

[native rivet]

I'm a muppet

I made a new char, to get a fresh template

Hahahaha!

My dude!

It works 😄

[vast bane]

there is a setting to let some things work with midi without tokens but I forget what it was

midi does not like theatre of the mind too much though

[native rivet]

Worst case scenario, I guess "theatre of mind scenes" can have a little token overview somewhere, if that's what it takes

[vast bane]

it really wants tokens on a canvas

[native rivet]

If it insists, I shall oblige

[vast bane]

you can actually hide them too midi sees them even if the players dont

[native rivet]

Ooh, that might be good

But this is great

ok so... next step seems to be to clear the buff when it's disabled

[vast bane]

yep, all effect transfers rely upon the target/range stuff, theres also nuance to what you set where in those 6 boxes if you get confused look at the samples midi has

[native rivet]

lest they end up with a very long list of disabled abilities

[vast bane]

also you may want to install the premades modules so you don't have to make it all from scratch, plus you can copy them:

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
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[native rivet]

I'll probably install it to look and learn

but I'm rather enjoying going from scratch... Helps me familiarise myself with it all

[vast bane]

midi's sample items is already on your setup, in the compendium tab, midi srd has a bunch of stuff, everything else in my copy paste are kinda advanced users only

Chris's premade module is great but its gonna have some complex stuff going on

[native rivet]

Ultimately, I like homebrews, so knowing how to bend the rules helps me crate that ^^

[vast bane]

use midi srd just so you can copy proper item setups for midi

don't have to use the items, just plagerize them

[native rivet]

Yeah I'll fetch it, I think. I learned a bit about the token system, from reverse engineering Ki

[vast bane]

the link above is a manual install fyi, the midi srd thats published is not compatible with v10 and the original author is on hiatus so bugbear updated his own for v10

[native rivet]

Can I transform the actor this way, or does that rely on drag and drop?

I know there's built in wild shape and poly support, but in case I think of other use cases, it's good to know what's possible

[vast bane]

wildshape can be handled a bunch of ways but core lets you drag a beast onto a character sheet and it prompts wildshape/polymorph

I personally don't use that, I use my own setup with warpgate macros

[native rivet]

I've read about warpgate... I think I'll leave that for now. Want to see if I can create up to lvl 5, with all abilities and spells, and get it to work

figure, if I can sort that, I should have the tools to build what I need from there. Then I can get technical

[opaque patrol]

Nice

[native rivet]

is there a repository where I can see the various terminology for things like armour bonus, stats etc?

like if I'm looking up armour class, or an int bonus, etc?

[dark canopy]

pins in #dnd5e or pins here if midi flag specific

[vast bane]

yeah its cole's post in dnd5e

calegos post in the pins in dnd5e is useful too though dae covers 99% of the times you need calego's

[native rivet]

cheers

[jagged plinth]

is it possible to add a Die to a temporary effect?

this doesn't seem to work

[dapper vortex]

Running into this as well, any idea if more recent Midi versions have fixed this?

[violet meadow]

These should be working

[dapper vortex]

Thanks, just wondering if this is something you edited yourself or if its available in a module somewhere 🤔

[violet meadow]

DFreds CE has Faerie Fire premade.

That is from a changed Faerie Fire from MidiSRD.

[brazen river]

do you need midi srd in order for the automation to work?

[violet meadow]

nope

Midi SRD is a (official module is outdated currently) module that has premade SRD Items so that they can work with MidiQOL/DAE and other modules for automation.

[native rivet]

Since you're messing with this, have you found a way to set AC to a flat custom effect? Trying to remove armour from the equation, but can't seem to override it

[violet meadow]

<#modules message>

Does this help?

[native rivet]

Hmh, I don't seem to have access to those from the dropdown menu.

They're tied to a mod?

[violet meadow]

system.attributes.ac.formula?

[native rivet]

That one I do, but the one you linked was some data.attribute override?

[violet meadow]

Yeah that is for v9 Foundry.
I am not on my PC now and just found that from searching

[native rivet]

when I choose system.attribute.ac.calc and Override, I can't enter a value, only choose from a dropdown, one of which is "flat" or whatever... but I can't set a calculation

Hmh, they might have changed it then

[violet meadow]

system.attributes.ac.formula will take a formula

system.attributes.ac.calcwill be the calculation mode of the AC

[native rivet]

k, sec, let me see if I have the right idea

[violet meadow]

What are you trying to do though? Have a DAE change temporarily the AC calc?

If its permanent, change it from the character sheet

[native rivet]

ok, so... I'm trying to make wildshape, change how AC is calculated, by disabling armour and only using wis for the mod

(trying to build the one dnd druid from scratch, as a learning exercise)

I can make it add wis. I can even make it use wis instead of dex... but I can't seem to ignore armour

[violet meadow]

OK try then the custom

Hover over the Armor Class on the character sheet. Edit it and make it take a custom formula

[native rivet]

Aye but is there no way to tie it to the ability?
Assuming the overrides would be able to do it. I'm basically trying to make as much as possible "one click". Manually overriding everything might ultimately work, but it's unwieldy and probably not feasible in the long run.

Again, it's also just to learn what is, and isn't possible

it works if I do it this way... So I guess the question is, if I can trigger this somehow, from the abilities effects panel

[violet meadow]

Are you looking to change the way the system calculates AC by default?

[native rivet]

While the "buff" is in effect, yes

[violet meadow]

OK so you want it temporarily

[native rivet]

so basically, while the effect is in place, override AC

aye

[violet meadow]

DAE with the 2 keys from before will do that

[native rivet]

maybe I entered it wrong, sec, lemme try again

Yeah, no, you're right. I'm just dumb 😄

I layered them wrong

thanks a ton mate

[brazen river]

So I need midi srd in order for midi qol to work?

[violet meadow]

No, not at all!

For MidiQOL to work, you will need socketlib and libwrapper as prerequisites.

[native rivet]

I'm having an interesting problem.

I have an ability, that sets Dex to match Wis, and sets AC to be 10 + wis + dex.
First time I trigger the ability, it seems to call "AC + wis + dex" before it sets "dex = wis".

So I have to fire the ability twice to get it to work

what could be causing that?

[violet meadow]

share a screenshot

[native rivet]

K, so, this is what the features look like:

This is the character sheet before activation, after one activation, and after two

I think it's calling the armour formula before it's changing dex

but... I'm not sure how I could change that

[violet meadow]

Lower priority when changing str and dex

[native rivet]

ooh!

priorities, right

[violet meadow]

Why don't you built both in one DAE?

[native rivet]

I... Don't know

kinda learning, I think it's easier for me to understand if I make everything modular, but I might not be doing myself any favours by splitting it up

does prio set higher or lower numbers first?

[violet meadow]

lower

https://gitlab.com/tposney/dae/-/tree/v10#calculations take a look here

and also MidiQOL readme

[native rivet]

much obliged!

hmh, I'm still getting it

set the AC to 20, and the stat mod to 19

does the difference need to be bigger?

or... hmh, documentation suggests I'm misunderstanding the priority system

[violet meadow]

I cannot help more right now 😄

[native rivet]

all good man, this pointed me in a direction

[violet meadow]

Someone else is gonna chime in soon probably 😉

[native rivet]

I'm enjoying getting lost in this, so thanks ^^

Can anyone figure out why I'm getting the following?
I have this setup:

but I'm getting this, after one activation

It's meant to set dex (10) to match Wis (15), then set AC to 10+wis+dex... But upon activation, I have to activate twice, before the AC formula takes the changed dex into account.

I initially had them as 2 effects, one for the stats and one for the AC, but again, regardless of how I set priorities, I get the same result

[scarlet gale]

@dawn rampart Magic items module tends to be a bit glitchy. A lot of people have moved onto items with spells.

[gilded yacht]

I'm just finishing up some more actor onuse macro triggers, isAttacked, isHit, isDamaged and rolledSave. The specified macro (can be an item macro) will be called when the actor is hit/damaged etc. So should make it easier to do.

[loud hollow]

Is there a way to use MIDI to change the floor of an attack roll, similar to how the Halfling Luck rerolls 1?

[vast bane]

this is normal, and is ok if you activate your items, if the item is permenantly on, then you need to not use an ae

dae converts the non integers into integers for keys that only take integers.

[vast bane]

this should work however, it will only roll every time it applies, so if its a permenant item, thats a pointless mechanic.

[vast bane]

there is a key for setting calculations to the different types and Flat is one

[native rivet]

It's the spell feature I was working on before. Changes stats and AC. Is there a way for me to set the stat change to occur before it bases AC of it?

priority didn't do what I thought it would

[gilded yacht]

Not sure, but try changing the priority of the ac.formula to (say) 30 so it runs after the dex/str setting

[vast bane]

you can set to flat calculation and then set the ac value

[native rivet]

I'll try. I've had both sets at 10, but it didn't do anything

[vast bane]

in the same ae

[native rivet]

That doesn't scale with lvl's or stat increases though, no?

[vast bane]

you are aware though that ac bonus won't work with flat right?

when you abandon the calculation system by choosing flat, the only way to change ac is to change the flat ac value

[native rivet]

yeah as posted above, I gave up on flat

found a way to override, and cause it to use Dex and Wis... but before that, it's supposed to match Dex to Wis, and then calculate AC

right now, it calculates AC first, and then adjusts Dex after, so I need to activate twice

I'm not sure how to change the priorities of that. Altering the "priority box" has done nothing so far

[vast bane]

I think you have the wrong key in the third slot here

you want to set the custom formula and then turn on the custom formula

[native rivet]

is that not what I'm doing?

[vast bane]

for some reason I thought the calc would have custom in it

is the feature always on?

[native rivet]

no it's the one you helped with before, it gets activated

[vast bane]

k then you should be fine

[native rivet]

and the activation seems to work fine, but upon activation, the AC gets calculated first, and then the stats it's calculating from, get adjusted. So I need to activate again, to get it to calculate with the "new" stats.

I'm not sure how to get it to adjust first, then calculate

[vast bane]

it will only apply the non integer stat entries at the moment of roll keep that in mind but for most temp effects thats fine. If they change their stats after the fact nothing will work unless you use a higher priority effect

honestly the whole thing looks more like a macro candidate than an active effect

[native rivet]

I've tried setting stat change to 10, and ac to 30. And stat change to 30 and AC to 10. Neither does anything

they were two seperate entries initially, but that calculated AC first too. I can't seem to get it to wait for the stat change, and I'm not sure why

[vast bane]

I think the only way you will pull that off is making it two rolls or putting half of it in a preitem roll macro

[native rivet]

the weird thing is

if I just want to add Wis and Dex... but NOT remove armour from the equation

it waits for dex to update

it's when I get it to ignore armour, that it insist on going first, before the other changes

[vast bane]

the ac dex thing is a different value in armor

what tim said, you could try dropping the cals priority to 1 and make the rest 100

[native rivet]

My name is Tim... It's so weird reading that 😄

[vast bane]

but I doubt its going to work, you need a preitemroll dae args on/off

the authors name is tim posney hehe

[native rivet]

Yeah I figured ^^

first time someone said "Tim said" I was like... I did?

[vast bane]

I don't even think an effect macro would do here cause I don't think effect macros on creation hook is before the item rolls

a really janky easy way to do this is to make the first half a CE, and then put an item macro on use in that applies said ae preitemroll

[native rivet]

changing to this

and it works perfectly, but doesn't ignore armour

atm, unequipping armour might just be the best bet

but I'm very curious as to why that step seems to break things

[vast bane]

did you try the different priorities yet or no?

[native rivet]

yes

nothing

[vast bane]

cause it lookis like its priorities making that new one work

[native rivet]

so something about custom seems to override everything

I already tried those values with the other setup

it didn't care

exactly the same with this

as long as I remove the armour override, and only add a bonus, it works just fine

[vast bane]

Oh my way original funny joke about your setup actually works if you want it

everyone avert your gaze to this amazing janky fix

if you recall way back when you first started, I said I didn't think tthe values would be a good target, and to try the mods even though they are depricated lol

sure enough those mod changes work

but boy is it janky, the sheet gets confused, doesn't know what to populate but behind the scenes the stats are all right

[native rivet]

...

fucking lol

[vast bane]

nm its not working false alarm I really need to test on monsters that don't have randomized stats

[native rivet]

aww man, cus it made a weird kind of sense too ^^

[tawdry frost]

Is there a replacement for the "Chat Portrait" Modual?

[vast bane]

preitem roll is your best shot, if no guru writes it, make the first half of the ae a dfreds CE, and use dfreds CE macro to aply the ce pre item roll

[vast bane]

unless one of us midi users has an answer thats probably something to ask module discussion just cause we may not even use the module.

[tawdry frost]

Wups. I thought I was in dnd chatroom haha

[vast bane]

If your monsters have wildcard images ditch the ATL keys in faerie fire.

you'll know why the first time you use it

[violet meadow]

@native rivet

Seems to be working fine

[native rivet]

you manually set the AC formula?

or did that change as a result?

the configure armour, box?

[violet meadow]

Nope

changed by the effect

[native rivet]

then I'm rather stumped

oh! you're doing the str+dex that Moto tried before

instead of wis+dex

maybe that's the trick tho... calling two stats being changed, instead of one and one regular stat... so that it has to wait for them to change, before calling

[violet meadow]

ok changed

[native rivet]

I'm... confused

[dawn rampart]

Oh thanks. I'll check it out.

[vast bane]

I too am able to get it to work but I also did it a really stupid way cause its ok to do it...

[violet meadow]

4 keys in the effect.

1. system.abilities.str.value | Override | @abilities.wis.value
2. system.abilities.dex.value | Override | @abilities.wis.value
3. system.attributes.ac.formula | Override | [e-mail][e-mail]
4. system.attributes.ac.calc | Override | Custom Formula

[vast bane]

since you are using an ae to override str/dex, then the ac calc doesn't need to be anything other than wis lol

[violet meadow]

the why 🤷

[dark canopy]

not stupid at all, i was about to suggest just cutting to the chase -- 10 + 2 * @abilities.wis.mod

[vast bane]

yeah since the overrides are in effect you don't have to worry about dex or str changing since that ae is locking them anyway to the wis mod

[violet meadow]

It makes sense from where they started, 2 different effects

But now it seems redundant

[dark canopy]

i was scrolling for a gotchya like that 😅

carry on!

[vast bane]

do you even need a custom calc?

can you just give them unarmored monk?

yeah the built in unarmored monk seems to work too

[violet meadow]

I always forget the rule of Monks unarmored def but I will say yes

[vast bane]

so can trim the custom calc key and just set the last key to unarmored monk

for some reason that reads the wis value change on dex

This is a satisfactory level of janky for my tastes

sure they see unarmored defense (monk) in their ac field but meh

Wouldn't see it at all if you used tidy5e

[native rivet]

Yeah I guess that's one method... but monk doesn't unequip or ignore armour, no? So you'd still need to unequip it. If so, the "dex mod + wis mod" or "2x wis mod" works just as well, without all the back and forth

I do make things a little complicated sometimes, but then again, that's the fun part of learning ^^

[vast bane]

afaik the armor doens't matter

[native rivet]

really? Interesting. So it does actually turn it off

[dark canopy]

the AC calc governs all

[vast bane]

yeah AC calc is boss

they even keep wearing the armor its just not applying a bonus

[strong yew]

This is pretty cool. Has this already been worked into an eldritch blast?

[vast bane]

cleave doesn't work with ranged attacks hehe

though, that target dialog could totally finally solve the scorching ray, eldritch blast, and magic missile dilemma

[strong yew]

I

I've only been away for like a month or two and feel lost again

[vast bane]

Its Chris' work I dunno if hes thought of making them

[violet meadow]

I really should update the magic missiles of my player. That is tomorrow,s morning coffee!

[quiet solar]

check out my work on MM - it isn't elegant by any stretch (and I am not inspiring confidence by not even being able to replicate my own settings... but really!!!)

  return new Sequence()
    .effect()
      .atLocation(canvas.tokens.controlled[0])
      .stretchTo(canvas.tokens.get(target))
      .file("jb2a.magic_missile")
      .repeats(number, 300, 600)
      .randomizeMirrorY()
    .play();
}

console.log(args[0]);

let numTargets = args[0].hitTargets.length;
let numMissiles = 2 + args[0].castData.castLevel;

// this just works as the magic missiles are applied in targeting order
//if (numMissiles < numTargets) return{}; //unnecessary

let targetMissiles = new Map();
// evenly distribute as many magic missiles as possible
args[0].hitTargets.map(t => targetMissiles.set(t.id, Math.floor(numMissiles / numTargets)));
// distribute the remaining magic missile in targeting order
args[0].hitTargets.slice(0, numMissiles % numTargets).map(t => targetMissiles.set(t.id, targetMissiles.get(t.id)+1));

// the fanciness
targetMissiles.forEach((v, k) => magicMissileEffect(v, k));


// debug
//console.log(args[0].workflow.damageList)

// this is inelegant, but works
args[0].workflow.damageList.forEach(t => t.totalDamage = t.totalDamage * targetMissiles.get(t.tokenId));
args[0].workflow.damageList.forEach(t => t.appliedDamage = t.appliedDamage * targetMissiles.get(t.tokenId));
args[0].workflow.damageList.forEach(t => t.hpDamage = t.appliedDamage);
args[0].workflow.damageList.forEach(t => t.damageDetail[0][0].damage = t.damageDetail[0][0].damage * targetMissiles.get(t.tokenId));
args[0].workflow.damageList.forEach(t => t.newHP = t.oldHP - t.appliedDamage);

basically - remove the number of targets so you can target more than one and then it applies a sequencer effect in order (and loops over targets in selected order)

[vast bane]

it handles more than one dart hitting a target?

[quiet solar]

it does

but I want to enhance it so that you can select targets and decide how many each get

right now it just keeps looping until it runs out of missiles

[coarse mesa]

@vast bane do you have an issue with createItem where it doesn’t remove them on AE deletion when there’s more than one created item? Known issue? I’m on latest everything now

[vast bane]

is one of them a shield?

or an ac calculation edit

[coarse mesa]

Nope just two very different weapons

[vast bane]

I haven't seen it enough to report an issue, but originally when it first released the last item didn't remove in a list of them. Its fixed now, but I did notice in the last session that intermittently soome of the players had emboldening bonds created item on them still, not all of them, just 1 of the 4

I think there is an issue with it not completing the removal randomly

[coarse mesa]

It’s for path of the beast… when he takes tail form he gets a tail slap and reaction

The other forms work fine but they only have one weapon each

[strong yew]

lol, so one of my players switched characters from a Warlock to a Swordsbard/Hexblade combo. Looking at all the stuff I'd have to script, I should've said no lol

[vast bane]

I can't replicate it on demand, I think its probably due to load during live sessions?

[vast bane]

should have said no to hex dip.(period)

I use this houserule at all my tables and it has solved the warlock dips:

[strong yew]

Eh, we're not super combat focused, and I know the player irl

[vast bane]

no more sorlocks, no more pallocks

[strong yew]

In this case, it wasn't a 1 lv dip, it was a 2 lv dip

[vast bane]

whats his invocation lol

trust me its cheese no matter how you slice it when someone dips warlock

[strong yew]

Armor of Agathys and Misty Visions

Yeah, I'm sure it'll be a handful

[vast bane]

a swords bard with AoA spam

yeah thats cheese

[coarse mesa]

Thanks dude I’ll do some testing and report it if needed. Thought I’d check in with you first since no one createItems like you do

[vast bane]

I only have 1 multiclass at my table and its a fighter and he only MC'ed cause the whole table wanted to move to the multiverse races and he didn't want to so to make everyone happy I said he could have a fighter dip

[vast bane]

its definitely there, its just not easily reproduced

I have a ton of loadout ce's of createitems and none of them are doing it with me and 2 players in the world atm

[coarse mesa]

I am on a slow connection here so that could definitely be it

[vast bane]

@soft umbra
Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
#1010273821401555087 message
#1010273821401555087 message

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

The following modules have template settings that step on midi:
Spell Template Manager
SIFT(Spells, Items, Features Toolkit)

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

Midi requires Item Macro to have its "Character sheet hooks" feature set to unchecked in order for on use macros to work right.

When editing owned items(items on actors) active effects beware of duplicating active effects that interfere. Always check the actors effect tab for rogue ae's.

If you are on dnd5e 2.0.3, I recommend midi 23 or 24, dae 14, and dfreds 3.1.1
If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

[soft umbra]

okay ty

Do Primates and Chris' macros work together or do I choose one or the other?

[scarlet gale]

Mine won't do anything unless you go out of your way to use them

My module is intended to supplement stuff the DDB importer doesn't do. Or doesn't do as well as I like.

[scarlet gale]

I never felt the need for eldritch blast to get this treatment. I let my players pick the next target after seeing the hp change

[soft umbra]

Midi-QOL is a bit overwhelming

going through the current read-me doc and there is so much different in the actual settings

[vast bane]

if its not for you, you can always switch to core or ready set roll or roll groups

[soft umbra]

oh no its looks amazing

its just a lot to look over

damn the default for reaction checking is 10 seconds

[vast bane]

fiddle with full auto on, when you don't get something ask, but don't use dnd5e srd items, grab midi srd from the manual download I shared above

trust me you want 10 seconds, any longer and your afk youtube-watching players will drag out combat

[soft umbra]

fair

for the link is it like a module or is there something in Midi setting to input?

Imma try to only use the basic stuff from Midi and active affects/auras before I try out other people's premades I think

[vast bane]

dnd5e will have various hiccups that don't work with midi

like any item with a suspended effect

[soft umbra]

yeah imma install that Midi

I also have more automated spell items and features

my compendium is a mess lol

[vast bane]

few gems in that module but most of it is really old

[soft umbra]

so I shouldnt be using anything thats just base SRD right?

[vast bane]

well midi srd replaces all the problem items, but just make sure you avoid items with abnormal setups in the details and anything with a suspended effect

[soft umbra]

I think im confused on what that means, sorry. So the Midi SRD pack I installed fixes problem items (mostly) so it wouldnt matter which compendium folder I pulled them from?

okay I think im getting it

ty for your help

[violet meadow]

@knotty hollow @rustic knoll I am waiting on some MidiQOL changes in regards to some items/macros we were talking about 😄
I will take another look what can be done when the Midi update drops

[delicate yacht]

Good morning/evening/day @scarlet gale and everyone who can/want to help,

My apologies to bother you on this fine day but I'm actually fighting a problem, regarding your module of Premade Spells and other things.
I'm actually doing a campaign on the Grim Hollow setup and one of my player is a Priomordial being which is a being that can transform into a elemental creature (like a genasi but a bit different).

The problem is with one of its ability :

Primordial Affinity
While able to control all elements, your Primordial birth was sparked by one particular element: your Primordial Affinity. Your body is infused with malleable elemental energy. You must choose an element below and gain all the benefits of that element:

Fire. You have resistance to fire damage. In addition, whenever you deal fire damage, you can add your Constitution modifier to the damage dealt.

He is a sorcerer/warlock/warrior and has the possibility to change the elements of spell with a metamagic. So he change the elements of Armor of agathys, to deal fire damage and have a + 3 (due to his Con bonus) on the damage of the armor...

What can I do to apply those damages ?

Thank you again for your time and have a nice day,

Some French Guy

[delicate yacht]

PS : If anyone could help me setup Heat metal automation, it would be a delight. Thank you !

[woeful jay]

Has anyone automated 5e Barbarian Form of the Beast?
I managed to Frankenstein the Midi SRD Moonbeam and Enhance Ability code to make a working Macro. It asks what form and gives them the appropriate attack.
But I don't know how to make it remove the attack once the rage ends.
P.S. not a coder lol. Just managed to reverse engineer other spells

[hot flower]

YES! I have!

🙂

https://github.com/ctbritt/path-of-the-beast-foundryvtt

sorry, it's my one major macro project and I'm pleased to share it.

@scarlet gale apologies if I missed the announcement, but I see you now have fields for a personal item and spells compendium. What's that for?

[woeful jay]

Thank you! I will take a look at this 🙂

[hot flower]

DM if you have questions.

[delicate marsh]

How to make in MIDI QOL so that after damage is automatically taken away not only health hits, but also an additional resource (primary resource, secondary resource, etc.). I want to add durability to the armor and have it automatically damage itself.

someone advised me flags.midi-qol.OverTime But I didn't understand what this attribute does and how to use it.

[vast bane]

on use macro that updates the primary resource of the target token.actor

can probably snipe what you need out of the midi sample for loh or abjuration ward

[violet meadow]

I have automated this in my setup, but needs some extra steps.
I have included a Tag on the Items I want to be affected by the Heat Metal.
I filter such Items on the target of the spell and I "create" a MidiQOL OverTime effect on the chosen one of them.
If that Item is unequipped the OT will become inactive so it is quite fine.

But needs a bit of setting up 😄

[hot flower]

@scarlet gale : Festering Aura as part of Summon Undead Spirit is almost exactly like your Stench monster feature for Ghast. (minus the immunity for 24 hours.) Would it be easy to modify Stench to work with Festering Aura?

[sinful phoenix]

hello! im trying to figure out why my pc is suffering from disadvantage. There are no effects on them, they are using a weapon they are proficient with, and they arent encumbered either. i dont get it can someone help?

[violet meadow]

What about this options in the Rules tab of MidiQOL?

[kind cape]

Turn on "Advantage attribution" in the misc tab of Midi, then left-click on the roll

[violet meadow]

The Hidden/Invisible attacker

[sinful phoenix]

i have them checked except flanking

[sinful phoenix]

it says that its hidden

[violet meadow]

Unckeck the Hidden checkbox and it will go away. Or make sure you have the proper Vision settings on them

[sinful phoenix]

ok thank you

[manic tendon]

Is there a way to tag a feature as ignoring damage resistance? (Like the Poisoner or Elemental Adept feats)

[knotty hollow]

Does anyone know how well automated the monsters are in kobold press content like tome of beasts with midiqol and dae? Is it gonna require a load of work to get the spells and conditions working properly etc? Bit decider on if I buy it or not

[violet meadow]

Elemental Adept macro solution <#1010273821401555087 message>

[manic tendon]

Thanks, so I add that as an ItemMacro?

[violet meadow]

Create a DAE with Transfer to actor on item equip checked and an Effect of
flags.midi-qol.onUseMacroName | CUSTOM | ItemMacro,preDamageRoll

On the Elemental Adept item. And make sure to change the damageType to the one you need.

[manic tendon]

Ah, so I don't put it at the bottom of details? Gotcha

[violet meadow]

nope

[delicate yacht]

Hum... I'm not quite sure that I understood what you explain... May you show me some screen of the procedure ?

[violet meadow]

Not easy to do right now. When I have time I will share something 😉

[vague relic]

Hey, was curious about how effective the Activation Condition field in items can be in checking for simple conditions (like target's int.value > 2). I've seen some documentation, but I'm struggling to wrap my head around how to actually make use of it.

Even in macros I'm struggling to figure out how to remove targets in the workflow based on conditions :P

[kind cape]

Whats the end goal you are trying to accomplish?

[vague relic]

Just filtering out targets based on values in their actor object

[violet meadow]

really effective

Hideous laughter

Some more examples <#1010273821401555087 message>

This too: <#1010273821401555087 message>

[vague relic]

super useful, thanks!

I do notice this is for applying effects only though; I assume I'll have to actually change the workflow if I want to prevent damage as well

[violet meadow]

Other Formula will be added/rolled if the condition is true

<#1010273821401555087 message>

[scarlet gale]

Build a bonus can do part of that

[scarlet gale]

It's for items that make other items that I don't want to include in the module. Such as potions of healing. The default compendium references what the ddb importer compendium would be called

[violet meadow]

@dusk crescent regarding your question on another thread, check console if there is an error for ignoreTotalCover
If yes, go to your Item's details page, and check one of the properties boxes at the bottom of the page

[vague relic]

Other damage isn't applying despite it evaluating to true. Are there any settings I might have off?

[strong yew]

Hmm. I don't think I have this in mine. Thanks for the share

[violet meadow]

@dusk crescent these boxes in particular at the bottom

[violet meadow]

Are these set to Activation Condition or Save Present? Bottom of Midi settings => Workflow settings => Workflow tab

[vague relic]

Yeah, just found that, still no worky :(

[violet meadow]

Make it just true

the Activation condition

Does it not roll the Other Formula at all?

[vague relic]

yeah, not at all, even when set to true

is how I have it setup

I've also played around changing the ones at the bottom

[violet meadow]

Give it a damage formula

[vague relic]

Yep, that was it, thanks a bunch 🙏

[dusk crescent]

Here is what happens with my console when I attacked a token. I can use the Attack Dialogue box and see dice roll and I'm told if I hit or not. WHen the Damage Dialogue box appears, no dice rolls, no indication of any damage. And there are two Damage dialogue boxes. Does this make sense? It's the same for whatever item i use.

[violet meadow]

Foundry and Dnd 5e system version? And MidiQOL + DAE versions?

Also Mars 5e?! that module is so long dead!!

[vague relic]

would you be able to get this pinned btw? lots of really good examples here

[violet meadow]

We would need a moderator in here for that

[spice kraken]

You can look at the midi readme and get them figured out

Usually pretty straightforward

[dark canopy]

i see a lot of helpful information being dumped in here and rather than managing a ton of pins, if I could point to a community wiki of some sort (github readme even), I would very likely pin it

[dusk crescent]

That did it. Getting rid of Mars 5e. Long story, but when Monks Little Details split, somehow all of my modules when unchecked. I was right at the start of a session, so I didn't have a chance to see which ones I had before. Thanks!

[vague relic]

That would honestly be the best way

[violet meadow]

Just getting rid of modules that are not v10 compatible, is a good first step!

[dusk crescent]

Yeah, I'm a bit lazy. 😆

[violet meadow]

Less headaches in the long run 😉 🤷

[hot flower]

ah, so basically it allows the update button in the header to pull from your own compendiums?

[dark canopy]

the midi community seems oddly opposed to collecting common information in a single place 😅 i keep pushing and will keep pushing, however

[hot flower]

this absolutely needs to happen.

[vague relic]

If I ever find the time to get cranking on a massive obtuse markdown document with all the stuff I've learned, I'll let you know lol. That or make videos on it 🤔

[scarlet gale]

Not quite. It's for items such as the dragons vessel

[vague relic]

too busy running all my games though

[dark canopy]

document for sure, easier to reference 🙂 easier to update and easier to put out an "incomplete" version

[scarlet gale]

It really just needs to point to your ddb importer compendium if your have it

[hot flower]

oh, no videos please. I really don't have time to watch a 45 min tutorial.

sorry if that sounds selfish..

[vague relic]

oh no, that's totally sensible

it's just what i'm used to doing lol

[violet meadow]

https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/blob/main/MidiQOL_related/MidiQOL activation conditions.md
Initial take.

I might need to move it elsewhere at some point. 🤔

[vague relic]

also I think the folks over at BaileyWiki are doing that already

[hot flower]

indeed. I find video tutorials tiresome. A document is faster, easiuer to access, and non-linerar.

[dark canopy]

i like this, agreed on maybe moving it -- if I could ask you to put the wiki style information in the repo's wiki, i'll pin it!

The cool thing is that the wiki repo is seperate from the main repo, so people can clone the repo and make PRs to update it 🙂

[violet meadow]

Yeah on the road rn, I will ping you when done

[dark canopy]

the hero we dont deserve ✊

and IF it helps at all -- I'd be willing to maintain a wiki repo (maintain, not contribute, to be clear) if it would help encourage contributions (late ping @violet meadow )

[vague relic]

honestly I think people would be less turned off by midi if it was more well documented

[dark canopy]

absolutely

(no slight to Tim, btw)

[vague relic]

it's the trying to decipher the original module page that's the worst part of learning it imo

[vague relic]

I couldn't imagine trying to describe what he created

[quiet solar]

Q on concentration: When concentration expires, should midi-qol be "ending" the concentration? in the Faerie Fire example I keep going back to, everything seems to work fine (effect is applied, pretty visuals (Dfred's CE) are applied, and concentration is applied and then 'expires' after 10 rounds, just like it should) but although concentration 'expires', it isn't removed. If I right click and manually remove it (DFreds's Panel) then it ends all effects

[scarlet gale]

If you make the effect in DAE instead of using a CE does it work?

[quiet solar]

I'm not sure I know how to do that

[scarlet gale]

Edit the spell then hit the DAE button in the title bar. Then setup the effect exactly how it looks like in CE.

[quiet solar]

Do I need to also disable CE?

[scarlet gale]

No

You just check the button at the bottom of the spell in the midi-qol section to not apply CE.

[quiet solar]

I added under "temporary effects", checked the "do not apply CE" and it worked "more"

what I mean by that, is that after 10 rounds, I got the "-Faerie Fire" on the battlemap token that was affected and the visual tokenmagic effect disappeared

[scarlet gale]

By chance do you use the ddb importer?

[quiet solar]

I do not

but the spell template is still there (thanks to @vast bane I can add a removal for that but it seems like ti should auto-remove)

[scarlet gale]

midi won't auto remove the template until the duration is up

it's easy enough to have a macro remove it sooner however

[quiet solar]

and the concentration icon is still present on the token and in the Dfred's Panel)

but that's the thing - the duration is up

[scarlet gale]

I'm not sure why CE isn't respecting the spell duration

It should just take the spell's duration when midi handles it

[quiet solar]

in many ways this is a more portable approach (using DAE) because then I can just drop the spell into my compendium

[violet meadow]

@dark canopy https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/wiki/Examples-of-MidiQOL-activation-conditions

Still WIP but some basic stuff are there

[quiet solar]

but back to the question on concentration... should it be removed when the spell duration is up or is the "expired" with a yellow clock normal?

I guess that's maybe more of a Dfred's Panel question?

but the status is also still on the token

[dark canopy]

Community MIDI-QoL Wiki
_maintained by @violet meadow _

https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/wiki

Contributing:

Simple - Create new issue with [Wiki] in the title and add contribution/corrections.

Advanced - Clone, update, push and link your fork in new issue marked [Wiki PR]. Full details here https://gist.github.com/omaraboumrad/35654da0a376c57a2e0ab4d92ad0c339

[quiet solar]

what is the proper way to call this in an item macro?
currently have it set to:
macro.itemMacro : custom : Faerie Fire : 20
(Faerie Fire is the item)

It works but advanced-macros throws an error and the same command works without error when run from the macro hotbar

sorry if these are stupid questions...

and with advanced-macros disabled, it throws a dae error:
Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'document') [Detected 1 package: dae] at eval (eval at daeMacro (dae.js:786:32), <anonymous>:4:47) at eval (eval at daeMacro (dae.js:786:32), <anonymous>:5:13) at daeMacro (dae.js:787:31) at async Semaphore._try (commons.js:11570:19)

[dark canopy]

it implies there are no templates on the scene at the time of macro execution

[strong yew]

Excellent variable naming @scarlet gale lol

[quiet solar]

making it asynchronous worked (just prepend await)

nope, I was wrong

thanks

[scarlet gale]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strong yew]

For some reason, importing the Jsons for blade flourish isn't working

Not updating the names or importing anything about them. Odd

[scarlet gale]

Strange

For what it's worth, my blade flourish is in my module too

[strong yew]

module what now?

[scarlet gale]

#package-releases message

[strong yew]

Think I will go ahead and grab that

[scarlet gale]

Has a few dependencies lol

[strong yew]

Thanks. One of my players just recently swapped to Swords Bard

[scarlet gale]

Although it's likely you already have most of them as a midi-qol user

[strong yew]

Was going to just write it myself, but man it's like 3 different feats put togheter lol

[scarlet gale]

Was one of the more complicated class features I've made

[strong yew]

Yeah I was just going to put together Telekinetic Shove, and look at that cleave macro someone posted, which is I think yours as well

But if it's already done, why bother lol

[scarlet gale]

lol

That's the idea

[strong yew]

Appreciate your work

[scarlet gale]

Cleave is also in the module (as an optional setting)

Among many other things

Making heat metal right now

[strong yew]

Hmm. Why is everything toggled off by default? Are there a bunch of possible conflicts?

[violet meadow]

macro.itemMacro | custom | <empty field> should do it

[scarlet gale]

I don't want to trample on other automations the other people may already be using

[violet meadow]

Always allow users choice is my Moto

[scarlet gale]

Everything I make is opt-in

[strong yew]

There's some good stuff in here. Protection from Evil and Good and AoA I just added, but I'll remove mine and just use these

[scarlet gale]

You can press the medkit icon on a spell to update the automation on it to the one from the compendium. It'll keep the description and preparation mode from what's already there.

[strong yew]

Interesting. Is there a listing of the spells currently in there?

nvm, probably on the github I can go look

[scarlet gale]

Look for the compendium

CPR - Spells

[strong yew]

So I should probably overwrite the existing spells I have for the automation, then throw those in the ddb-override yeah?

would just be a one time setup?

[scarlet gale]

I think so. I don't personally use the ddb-override compendium. But I think that's how it functions

[delicate marsh]

Is it possible to somehow expose the "taking damage" effect in the conditions of repeating the macro?

[strong yew]

Quick question. Keeps hitting me with "This feature may only be used on owned items"

Copied them over to the items tab in foundry from ddb-spells

[scarlet gale]

Place it on an actor then hit the button

I didn't build a way to update sidebar items yet

[strong yew]

Ah, thanks!

[scarlet gale]

You can always just nab it out of the compendium too

And paste in the description.

[strong yew]

Cool, will keep that in mind too

It just overwrites everything but the description when hitting the medkit?

[scarlet gale]

Technically it makes a new item and deletes the old one. It keeps the description, preparation mode, uses, and tidy sheet favorite selection

It'll also keep the custom character sheet section, if you have that module

[quiet solar]

this worked - thank you!

but I did still get an advanced-macros error (actually 2) on spell expiration

and I think I know why now

the item macro is executed (at least) twice so I just need to wrap the template deletion with a conditional check

    canvas.templates.placeables.at(-1).document.delete();
}```

The ItemMacro was being called 3x on spell casting and 3x on spell expiry... weird but removing the template works now

[dark canopy]

i would address that issue rather than implement workarounds

[quiet solar]

it does have a bit of a smell to it

[leaden light]

I have a quick question. I say a post that said, Minor QOL for Foundry VTT has an Enable Speed Item Rolls setting that hid the extra dialouge in the chat window for a saving throw. Fixed the spells with two effects.

Is there a tutorial I can look at for this?

[quiet solar]

So the multiple calls to itemmacro persist even with only:
DAE, libWrapper, midi-qol, socketlib, and Times Up enabled

as does the concentration icon on spell expiry

[dark canopy]

your macro is recursive then

show the whole thing

[quiet solar]

the macro isn't recursive

it seems to only be 2x on cast and 2x on expiry though

[violet meadow]

Minor QOL 👀 ! What version of foundry are you on?

[leaden light]

10

[violet meadow]

It is the way you wrote it

[quiet solar]

really?

[violet meadow]

Do you mean MidiQOL?

[quiet solar]

hang on - ok, gimme a sec

[leaden light]

literally just copied and pasted.

[violet meadow]

To execute only on deletion wrap the macro in if(args[0] === "off") {}

[quiet solar]

and the reverse if only on creation?
if(args[0] === "on"){}

[violet meadow]

If you have the minor qol module on foundry v10, first of all impressive! Secondly it should have a big compatibility warning ⚠️ in the module management

[violet meadow]

And each if you use the special macro execute triggers under the DAE duration tab

Make sure to check the DAE readme

For the arguments provided by dae

[quiet solar]

    let lastPlaced = canvas.templates.placeables.at(-1);
    if (lastPlaced && lastPlaced.document) {
        lastPlaced.document.delete();
        console.log("removing template")
    } else {
        console.log("template already removed")
    }
}```
only executes once now (when the spell is cast)

I'll review the DAE docs, thank you

is the concentration orange clock worth chasing?

or should I just be happy ;D

[scarlet gale]

Concentration orange clock?

[leaden light]

I am really new at this Foundry and normally play normal map and mat but am trying to automate the game and use homebrew.

I just looked at the reddit post and it was from 3 years ago. So I am not sure how accurate the information was.

[quiet solar]

on spell expiry

the spell ends but concentration status does not

[violet meadow]

0%

MidiQOL for v10, but I would suggest starting by using core software and getting used to it. Them deciding what needs to be different and ask around for modules and ways to change that

I wouldn’t recommend someone to start by diving deep with midi

[dark canopy]

this cannot be emphasized enough

[violet meadow]

That is really strange behaviour

[leaden light]

I am only using 8 mods, Socketlib, MidQOL, libwrapper, foundry community macros, attack roll check, 5e custom ability and skills.

If there is another mod I should have on? I was hoping it would be a simple, if then statement.

[violet meadow]

I would ask more specific questions about what you want to achieve easier or differently to what core does in #dnd5e

Should have modules are not something I like as a concept

Each table is different

I would saydice so nice is fine to have too and the only exception to that rule

And dice tray maybe

[leaden light]

Well, I am making a Chronomancer class who dabbles in golemancy. The each have their own spells. I want to make the combat, leveling up as automated as possible.

I am not planning on using the map portion of foundry at this time, mainly because I don't have time to work with better roofs. I have created several items already

I get the "should have", since they are all based on the need of the people using them.

[spice kraken]

I have a list I can recommend

1 sec

https://www.foundryvtt-hub.com/fvtt-community/commentary/official-foundry-hub-recommended-module-list/

[vague relic]

What object should I change to alter who's being targeted during the Midi workflow, and at what point during the workflow should I do that?

Trying to automate Chain Lightning, and I've gotten all targets, just don't know how to alter the workflow so that it makes all of them roll the save and take damage

[scarlet gale]

I just roll a synthetic item for my additional targets for my chain lightning automation.

You can set the damage roll total as the damage parts of the item being rolled, so it's effectively the same.

I think there's a way to do it in pre-targeting?

[vague relic]

Yeah, just wanted to avoid that since it's my preference that the damage rolls are literally the same. Keeping everything in the same chat card's nice too

[scarlet gale]

I know bugbear has mentioned it before

It will be the same if you set the parts to the damage total

it just rolls a flat number lol

[vague relic]

as obtuse as it is of me to be, I'm hell bent on this method since I think it'll let me do other things in future

[scarlet gale]

fair

[vague relic]

appreciate the perspective though, didn't know your way was a thing lol

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/chris-premades/blob/master/scripts/macros/spells/chainLightning/chainLightning.js

if you want to see my implementation

Note that this relies on some packed away functions in https://github.com/chrisk123999/chris-premades/blob/master/scripts/helperFunctions.js

[quiet solar]

it persists even with the midi-qol settings you sent me (though I had to install simbul's cover in order to use your settings exactly as-is) in a new world. -- I feel like I must be missing something really basic.

[strong yew]

I don't suppose anyone has a Breath of the Dragon macro?

[scarlet gale]

Like the monster feature?

or is that something else

or Dragon's Breath?

(the spell)

[leaden light]

Thank you

[strong yew]

Monk Ascendant Dragon feature

[quiet solar]

DFreds Effects Panel

[scarlet gale]

Looks like a good case for setDamageRoll

[vague relic]

seems like the illustrious await game.user.updateTokenTargets(targets.map(t => t.id)) was the ticket

called on after targeting complete

[scarlet gale]

I'll have to keep that in mind

I should set my chain lightning to use that

[vague relic]

I'm happy to have found how to change targets mid-workflow; lots of good potential for other shenanigans there

[vast bane]

this is a hotbar macro for deleting a template that has fallen through the cracks of automation.

[vast bane]

whats wrong with your concentration? theres 242 messages I missed I'm not reading them all lol

[quiet solar]

lol - sorry 😭
concentration never goes away when the spell ends - just gets the orange clock icon and says it is 'expired' yet if I cast another concentration spell, I get the "you are already concentrating on..." dialogue

[vast bane]

aren't you the one with a world that had an issue none of us could solve but a new world worked fine?

[scarlet gale]

Shouldn't the concentration like remove itself once it times out?

[quiet solar]

no - the new world has the same issue

[scarlet gale]

If it's getting disabled that would be why it's acting weird

[vast bane]

was the concentration cast during combat

[quiet solar]

yes

[vast bane]

are you on midi 32?

[quiet solar]

yes

[vast bane]

possibly fixed in 33. Await our lord and savior tposney for an update.

[quiet solar]

dammit - I missed another update?

[vast bane]

no update yet

[quiet solar]

oh

[vast bane]

he said he fixed the strangeness of midi auto apply of dfreds ce's in 33

hopefully he catches concentration

I only reported the auto apply of spells from ce not the concentration mechanic

may want to make an issue for it too

[quiet solar]

ok - will do

[vast bane]

but also theres always been an intermittent problem with abilities and spells that apply with dae converting the item details duration to ROUNDS only.

the only way to fix that bug is to tediously make sure all your shorter ae's have rounds and seconds posted in their effeects duration tab

but right now, dfreds ce has totally fine durations set, but when midi auto applies somethings fuckin up and all ae's apply with no real duration

but since they have force show, they stay on

[quiet solar]

I switched from dfreds ce to dae for this one

still has that issue?

[vast bane]

doesn't matter dfreds ce has the concentration effect

[quiet solar]

gotcha

[vast bane]

its actually technically dae doing the problem

[quiet solar]

so if I set the spell's duration to 10 rounds and 60 seconds it should fix it?

I mean, if that's the root cause

[vast bane]

dfreds CE's concentration before dae does anything:

so because theres no fallback duration and dae is reading something badly the ce's misbehave

[quiet solar]

hmm - ok, but I can't edit Concentrating globally for one spell's duration. the spell already had duration set in seconds. I added rounds also -- the spell (and its effects end properly), just not the concentration

I'll submit an issue

[vast bane]

I'm pretty sure this is directly relatd to the ce duration bug with midi auto apply, tposney posted a reply to me saying hes fixed it in 33, and he closed my issue report, but for good measure I'd make a new issue just incase its not in the scope of my bug report.

[quiet solar]

https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/issues/1188

[vast bane]

Looks like it may have been dfreds all along...

https://media.giphy.com/media/PupKtxrsQy5Wd3TzW3/giphy.gif

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[scarlet gale]

I was just looking at that

It sounds just like the issue being described

[quiet solar]

I just upgraded to CE 4.1.0 -- doesn't fix the issue

[vast bane]

Tim might have needed dfred to post his fix first for midi to fix

we may still need midi 33 which is probably coming soon™️

[quiet solar]

eh, hang on...

nah - nevermind.

[quiet solar]

seems logical - I did see an "applying concentration" after I enabled "replace" on token status effects but maybe that was already there and I just had the configuration turned off

and thanks for the ping on the update - I had literally checked for an update about 2 hours ago and nothing 🙂

[light sleet]

how difficult would it be to automate fey gift

[violet meadow]

what is fey gift?

[light sleet]

You can use this trait to take the Help action as a bonus action, and you can do so a number of times equal to your proficiency bonus. You regain all expended uses when you finish a long rest.
Starting at 3rd level, choose one of the options below each time you take the Help action with this trait:

Hospitality. You and the creature you help each gain a number of temporary hit points equal to 1d6 plus your proficiency bonus.

Passage. You and the creature you help each increase your walking speeds by 10 feet until the start of your next turn.

Spite. Until the start of your next turn, the first time the creature you help hits a target with an attack roll, that target has disadvantage on the next attack roll it makes within the next minute.

its a race feat for hobgoblin from mmotm

[vast bane]

wow thats all possible but macro territory lol

[violet meadow]

OK what would you like automated?
You can create 3 Items (features) in the character sheet, one for each ability.
The first will be a healing action type, for 1d6 temporary hp. Target self and the other creature and roll it.

The second will be transferring an Active Effect for with an effect altering system.attributes.movement.walk | ADD | +10.

The third is a bit less straightforward but doable when this bugbear has had his sleep...

You can have a dialog choosing one of the 3 options and making stuff happen accordingly too

[light sleet]

interesting

[vast bane]

man that is one messy automation though

I'd just make the 3 options and manually handle it in my game

either that or make a special help action with an on use macro that is a dialog of the 3 features

[quiet solar]

we know you don't sleep... Fey Ancestry or something

[quiet solar]

actually totally forgot that I replicated this without CE -- it's a midi (or DAE) bug. need to update the issue

[vast bane]

midi uses concentration from ce doesn't it?

did you disable dfreds ce?

[quiet solar]

yeah

[vast bane]

I can't use simbuls cover calculator till the fix comes out for the debugger, its just too overwhelming for my groups pc's

[quiet solar]

I'm not really using it, I just wanted to use @violet meadow 's midi-qol settings file without modification (even though I was virtually positive there would be no interaction there)

[vast bane]

you were right you needed to add it, cause if you have simbuls set in the settings spells and items stop working and theres a cover not defined error

[quiet solar]

yeah - I had these annoying red things in the console... hate those

[vast bane]

its a common troubleshoot solution in here I've had to say a few times

[vague relic]

Hey, I updated this Mirror Image macro for v10, but it's not fully working, and I can't figure out why. Specifically at line 60, the macro updates your targets during the workflow so the attack doesn't hit you, but for some reason, despite removing your token from the targets, you're still targeted, and take damage. I know doing game.user.updateTokenTargets() works for altering targets during the workflow, but I've only ever used it on the preambleComplete hook. Is preCheckHits too late in the workflow to change targets? The macro needs the attack roll, so I can't just do preambleComplete for this one. Would appreciate thoughts

[vast bane]

I think CPR has a premade for mirror image

[vague relic]

cpr?

[vast bane]

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
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Chris' Premade module

[vague relic]

will check it out, thanks

[dense willow]

Is there a way for an AOE healing spell to target only allies?

[vast bane]

I just answered you in dnd5e sorry, third box to the right in the range fields of the item details

if you want it for mass cure wounds, install CPR, he has a premade mass cure wounds

mass healing word would be blank/blank/ally and the cleric pretargets

[dense willow]

I actually doing it for the Eldritch Cannon Protector ability. It gives 1d8 temporary hit points to all allies in 10 feet.
Selecting Ally in the 3rd box lets me target an ally, but it doesn't do the radius. The radius option of course selects allies and enemies. Perhaps they just need to set to ally, and ask the player to target everyone manually?
I'm not familiar with CPR, I'll see if I can't find that

[vast bane]

Target: 10/feet/ally
Range: blank/blank/self

[scarlet gale]

👋 It's my module. It's pretty new.

[vast bane]

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its in the post just above with all the yummy links to premades

[dense willow]

Awesome, thank you! and I'm checking out CPR now. Hello!

[scarlet gale]

The box below being set to special should do it

[leaden light]

Here is a spell I am working on.

"The target makes a constitution save or take
4d8+10 Force damage and half on a successful save. You heal
an equal amount to damage dealt."

What is the most succinct way to use the original result from the roll to heal?

[vast bane]

plagerize the vampiric touch macro in um... I think chris' or Mr.primates macros:

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[leaden light]

Thank you, I didn't think of that one. I checked life transference

[vast bane]

@tidal lion
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[tidal lion]

nodnod, thank you

[scarlet mortar]

Hello! I'm using Midi, 5e system, and I'd like to achieve these results:

1. -1 to AC to a particular armor, stackable
2. -1 to hit with a particular weapon, stackable

I'm trying to represent a "notch" system (I know that Darker Sheet had one but I can't use that), and I'd like to both have an effect on the character sheet and to be easy to use (and revert, as in, going from -3 to -2 without having to remove the entire effect and reapplying it).
What can be the best way to achieve this? Thanks in advance!

[scarlet gale]

This a feature everyone gets?

[scarlet mortar]

Yep

Basically it's to represent equipment wear and tear

[scarlet gale]

So if they get hit it changes it?

or some condition that can be checked during an attack?

[scarlet mortar]

No, it must be manually updated, because the idea is that armors can negate a critical hit by getting damaged, and weapons grant a reroll on the attack by getting damaged

it's pretty "active"

[scarlet gale]

So have a resource set the AC bonus essentially?

(including going negative)

[scarlet mortar]

Yeah, basically; the idea is that light armors have 1 "notch", medium 2, heavy 3 (masterwork or special material items might have more, but this is easy to track by hand and I don't think it really need a modification).
Same with weapons

I just have no idea if this can be appliable only to a certain piece of equipment (would be the optimal thing)

[scarlet gale]

That complicates it

[scarlet mortar]

If it's extremely messy, it can always be calculated "by hand" and set as general effect

[scarlet gale]

Passive effect on the character, have the AC bonus use the value of a resource

It's dumb but it works if you want it to be easy to edit

[scarlet mortar]

Wouldn't it be -@resources?

So that 1 "armor damage" is -1 to AC

[scarlet gale]

Sure

You can also just put a negative number in the resource

Whatever works for you

[vast bane]

too bad we can't use those attribute calls in the ac field on armor

you can if you turned the armor into a bonus instead

[scarlet mortar]

My macro and attribute knowledge is still more than elementary so I need a step by step explanation 😄

wouldn't turning the armor in a bonus fuck up the AC calculation?

[scarlet gale]

Yep

[vast bane]

I'd just do a macro and didn't someone already tackle this?

I wanna say maybe janner

[scarlet gale]

Easy dumb way is to just have the resource do it, I can think of some world script macros to handle it with automated effects

but that would be a bit involved

[scarlet mortar]

A macro is fine as long as there's some sort of visual effect attached to it (as a token status or whatever)

[vast bane]

I personally sorta handle this with just dfreds CE's and manually delete the items when the penalty goes over the players values

[scarlet mortar]

The issue with CE is that I have no idea about how to make it stackable, as in, even if I select the correct menu voice to enable stacking, when I apply the effect and it's already present, it gets removed

I read somewhere that it needs a separate macro?

[vast bane]

you have to use a macro to apply

the dfreds default behavior is always toggle even if its stackable

and the macros he gives us in his compendium also check for an existing effect, so you have to edit to make an actual stacking macro

or just attach the ce to an item in midi and that will circumvent dfreds toggle

[scarlet mortar]

I tried removing the check from the macro but still didn't work, so I must have messed up something
And, attaching the CE to an item in Midi? Any tutorial around for that?

[vast bane]

put the item on an actor, drag the ce from dfreds window to the items effect tab

cannot do it in the sidebar, ironically its the opposite of what folks usually warn against lol

[scarlet mortar]

Oh, cool. I'll make some tests. The macro should call for that effect then I suppose

Ok, I made the simple effect and put it in the item. How do I call for it tho?

[vast bane]

the effect will transfer depending on the items target/range settings unless you checked a box in the first tab of the CE, you shouldn't fyi.

[scarlet mortar]

Nope, sorry, completely lost, first time I try to make a macro 😄

The thing I managed to do was create a macro that adds the effect I created to the character, not the item, and stacks it (is there a way to NOT have 3 status effects icon if the effect is applied 3 times?)

[vast bane]

@winged sigil

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
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Mr.Primate has an on use macro for Thunderous Smite

his macros work best, if you are using the ddb importer cause sometimes his macros imply a setup of an item that he does in his importer and the dnd5e srd item/midi srd item is not going to have the same setup, so beware of those quirks with interactions.

[scarlet mortar]

Thanks a lot, checking all this! Very helpful!

(no D&D beyond, no issue ;D )

[winged sigil]

no ddb for me (not yet)

[vast bane]

alot of this stuff are modules, and also players may not have access to make/paste macros so you might have to bother your dm to change permissions

[scarlet mortar]

"I am the senate" ehm the dm

[vast bane]

I was more speaking to SniffenJ's issue but I understand

[scarlet mortar]

Sorry 😄

[vast bane]

I wonder if chris mad an armor corruption feature in CPR

[scarlet mortar]

CPR?

[vast bane]

Chris' Premades

its in the links I just posted

Also to the both of you, if your dm's/you are newish, Chris' module has issues with installing it if you don't have alot of the dependencies, its like the most dependencies I've seen for a module in foundry and I think it kinda has a fit if you don't preinstall most of them

[scarlet mortar]

I know zero of macros but I'm quite expert at installing stuff at this point, thanks for the advice in any case

[vast bane]

I've seen a few people, and I personally had the issue, where it had a stroke when trying to do the dependency installs and left 2 of them as blank empty modules till I reinstalled them

here are all the dependencies

if you go to install his module, try to nail these down first before installing it so that it doesn't run into that issue

[winged sigil]

I found that .json file, copied the contents. I put it all in a new macro, but I think Im doing something wrong, nothing happens

[vast bane]

I don't think its a json

its .js, so go to the raw of the file, and copy and paste it into the item macro of your thunderous smite

however, you may want to ask someone what the thunderous smite looks like from ddb cause I highly doubt the dnd5e default version works with the macro

wait the first 2 lines of the macro kinda give away the quirks of it

it needs to be a midi on use macro, with a macro pass of "pretargeting" but thats not what the drop down says, I think the drop down is before targetting

then it says its looking for target set to self

so that means you want to clear out the bottom third of the spell so it doesn't do anything to the caster by accident

it looks like all the work is done in the macro

[vast bane]

If your DM has installed Item Macro, they need to make sure the setting in it for "character sheet hooks" is unchecked, if they didn't install it, then when you make the macro, make it as a folder macro:

remember its name when you make it, and then at the bottom of the spell, theres a + button for On Use, click it, and then put the name of the macro in the left field, and then change the drop down to whatever dorp down sounds like "Pretargeting"

[winged sigil]

Dont think we have the item macro module yet:

[vast bane]

you can't use the macro till your DM installs Dfreds CE

or you have to wait for a guru to give you the Midi method for applying an active effect

[scarlet mortar]

3d canvas is cool but I think it lengthens the prep time tenfold 😄

[vast bane]

Line 30 is the dfreds function

its also patreon only and my table has toaster computers

[winged sigil]

we are doing the game on stream so making it a better viewing experience is the idea behind 3d. It is a lot to learn for sure.

i ahve spent a lot of time trying to get animations to get included in my macros too... that is also hard lol

[violet meadow]

Moto check the pinned messages 😁

[vast bane]

woot!

[violet meadow]

It will get someplace slowly slowly

[vast bane]

I do kinda wish midi stopped attacks if the weapons weren't equipped

and counted how many weapons were equipped and warned them to unequip down to 2 before attacking

[violet meadow]

Easy to do with a world script

[solid mountain]

Does midi have a setting to target self if no target is chosen?

[violet meadow]

No afaik