MidiQOL

[quasi needle]

i assume that last checkbox isn't going to do what i hope?

[vast bane]

correct

if you are trying to just put the reduction on the aura thats a mistake

you also have all instead of allies

[quiet solar]

This may have gotten lost in my other question about faerie fire... anybody have any pointers on this? TIA

[vast bane]

canvas.templates.placeables.at(-1).document.delete();

hotbar macro for the rogue templates that don't need to stick around

[violet meadow]

or use this https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/SIFToolkit/releases/download/10.0.2/module.json
for rogue templates 😄
I am testing to release it

[vast bane]

I haven't had to use this macro in a while so the two of you hitting this issue has me thinkin theres something off with your setups or theres a new bug I haven't hit yet since I haven't run my live session in 32/2.1.5/22 yet

[quiet solar]

can you walk me through the at(-1)?

it's not for a rogue -- totally different macro

[vast bane]

the macro deletes the last placed template on the canvas you are looking at

[quiet solar]

ah!

[vast bane]

rogue templates are templates that are hangin out still when they don't belong

[quiet solar]

lol

not "rouge" templates... gotcha

[vast bane]

is sift ok with midi now?

[violet meadow]

Was it not OK at some point? 😅

[vast bane]

Its not gonna break template macros or something like darkness/stinking cloud?

[quiet solar]

shameless repost could somebody point me in the direction of checking whether 1 token can see another? (not a sneak/perception check -- just simple vision)

[violet meadow]

I think not, but that's the tests needed 😄

[vast bane]

midi will tell you automatically now

[violet meadow]

that

[vast bane]

turn on attribution for advantage/disadvantage

[quiet solar]

where in the dom is it?

or documentation?

[vast bane]

I dunno its new though

attribution is part of the tooltip options at the top of one of the workflow tabs

Honestly think attribution should be on by default

[quiet solar]

I use adv/disadv attribution but how does that tell me whether one token can see another?

I'm not checking 'hidden', just whether they have line of sight (and range, etc)

[vast bane]

if they can't see them, the advantage/disadvantage attribution has a hidden entry

should still work I think

that should be blocked by your target settings, are you ignoring walls or something?

not checking range?

[scarlet gale]

Attribution can also be leveraged by macros

[violet meadow]

canvas.effects.visibility.testVisibility({x: newCenter.x, y: newCenter.y}, {object: target});

[scarlet gale]

I've started adding them to all my stuff

[quiet solar]

sweet! I will give that a try

interesting - I will check that approach out too

[vast bane]

also if you have simbuls cover calculator it probably tells you 20 different ways that you can or can't see something due to a level of cover(due to the debugger bug)

[quiet solar]

lol

[quasi needle]

ok... made a random item, put damage resistance aura transfered to actor on equip, set to show icons on people affected, works fine. take the same armor and switch from dr to DR, and it fails. any ideas?

and yes, i equipped it, though it's not equipped in this screen shot

[vast bane]

my first guess is rogue ae in the actors effect tab

[violet meadow]

CUSTOM instead of ADD

[vast bane]

lets see the workflow in chat

nah it should be add

my add works

my guess is they don't have damage on in midi

[violet meadow]

For all?

[vast bane]

yeah I gave him that key lol

[violet meadow]

ok that works

[vast bane]

thats working isn't it?

[quasi needle]

custom instead of add worked, reduced 3 damage. only issue is icon doesn't show on people with the aura, which i can live without

[vast bane]

it works as add too lol

[quasi needle]

add didn't work for me

[vast bane]

the icon is cause its a jpg

I discovered that same issue

I dunno if its foundry, dnd5e or what, but that icon cannot be a jpg, it has to be a webp

[quasi needle]

weird, the icon appeared with resistance, just not when i switched to reduction

[vast bane]

when you edit ae's like that on the actor, you should always confirm you didn't create a ghost ae

always double check your actors effect tab

[quasi needle]

not sure what you mean by ghost ae

[vast bane]

you will see 2 ae's by the same name in the actors effect tab

the core way you edit items ae's is you move the item to the sidebar and then edit, then move back, DAE lets you do it on the actor, its mostly ok to do it on the actor, but theres still a chance when fiddling with the first tabs checkboxes to cause a rogue ae to poop out onto the actor

[violet meadow]

Moto try something. Change the ADD to CUSTOM and hit the target. Change it back to ADD hit it again

Do you see something strange?

[vast bane]

Custom:

Add again:

[violet meadow]

how much is the DR on each case?

[vast bane]

999

its a prevent all damage effect

[violet meadow]

yeah is it 999 both or one 999 and the other one 1998?

[vast bane]

I lost your "kill a workflow" reaction you had shared

[violet meadow]

just found it tonight again to play with the Rune Cloud again

[vast bane]

I dunno how to see it

[scarlet gale]

My thought would be to fumble the roll of you can

[vast bane]

always 999

[vast bane]

Bugbear had shared a kill workflow script a while back I think

thats ultimately what I want

[violet meadow]

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[vast bane]

I have two things that do this weird mechanic, Protective Bond and The Melair Shield. They are use a reaction to take the damage for someone

[violet meadow]

search for miss me much

[vast bane]

and I'm using a third party reaction aura for them sorta

got it now

wow the new tiling of images is ugly af

My grand pappy can read these atleast

[quasi needle]

taking off exactly 10 damage every time, no randomness

same with add or custom

[scarlet gale]

It rolled once upon creation probably

Is this a passive effect?

[quasi needle]

yes. transfer to actor on equip item with aura

now it's reducing 8hp every time, which is suspiciously exactly half rounded down

[vast bane]

I told you not to do that

I literally said it twice and thats why you don't lol

thats not even how interception works, it has to be a reaction

not apply on equip

the inline roll fires when it applies to the actor, if you set it as passive it only rolls once and does the same amount, but thats not the real problem, the real problem is you are making a reaction permenant

[quasi needle]

i understand it's at best an approximation, that i would have to unequip the item after the reaction was used. i know you told me going in it wouldn't work perfectly like this and that fine because i'm trying to learn and you can learn by failures too 🙂

i know more than i did an hour ago, mission accomplished

[vast bane]

why are you having it apply on equip? make it a reaction damaged

then the player will get prompted for the reaction and the inline roll doesn't matter

the aura then has to give the item via macro.createitem

[quasi needle]

just trying to figure out workable approximations at a level that i can currently understand before accepting black box solutions that work perfectly but i don't really understand how. i didn't get there on my own, trying your method now

the idea behind apply on equip was that the interceptor player could unequip it when he used the reaction so it wouldn't apply again until his next turn

[vast bane]

one item is the feature with an aura on it that has only a key for macro.createitem that has the drag and drop of the second item that is a Reaction Damaged item type

if you look at protection of melair theres a drop down towards the top of items that decide what action economy it is

the problem with apply on equip is that its third party

I honestly think you aren't understanding where the reaction setting is on items

You could do it as a reaction manual on the third party actor or if you give the item to the victim like my setup, you set the reaction item to reaction damaged

[vast bane]

thats ok but technically not the right timing

that fires at the very start before a hit is decided I believe

reaction damaged fires when hit is declared

[quasi needle]

ok

[vast bane]

but if its an aura, you want reaction manual

because A) he can't use it for himself, and B) he has to fire it before the DM starts attacking his ally since you fast forward and he'll never get prompted for reactions

this is why my janky aura item giving strategy is genius, it puts the reaction on the victim so that it breaks up a fast forward workflow

this also all relies on your midi settings being on for reactions btw

if you have reaction prompting off then all of this is pointless

[hollow tundra]

How do i create my own custom conditions that can be added to the conditions tab? Also, how do i stop the same status symbols from stacking?

[vast bane]

in dfreds CE create new effect, once its setup, right click it and add as a status icon, refresh page

stacking is handled from a drop down in the first tab of the ae, stack by name and origin are options

also if your dfreds CE is set to NONE for status icons in its settings, change that to replace.

[wind pecan]

So.. I may get pulled back to the dark side and start using Midi again. all of my homebrewed spells have too much going on in them, and Midi seems to be able to sort it all out nicely. But, I have a question or 2 about itemMacros and being able to time them

I did a test game and without Midi all sorts of stuff either didn't happen as designed or it just acted weirdly (using WIRE)

[vast bane]

I think technically you mean On Use macros as midi doesn't own Item Macro and you can use Item Macros without midi.

[scarlet gale]

Midi does not work with wire

[wind pecan]

Correct, well yes and no

right, I know that - only was using WIRE, things didn't happen as intended, switched to Midi, things worked as designed

[vast bane]

I also don't know if WIRE requires the sheet hooks off in item macro or not, so that could also be your problem. Even if you toggle off the rollers they all do stuff to your world that are kinda lingering and getting in the way of other modules

[hollow tundra]

what is a nested effect?

[vast bane]

I would never turn another roller on in my live world for my players

[wind pecan]

Yeah. This item macro seems to ONLY work if I have sheet hooks turned on (either with WIRE or Midi)

[vast bane]

thats some serious risk

[vast bane]

did you get the macro from #macro-polo ?

[wind pecan]

Zhell wrote it for me

[scarlet gale]

If it only works with sheet hooks it just needs to be updated to use midi args

[scarlet gale]

And that's your problem

[vast bane]

some new dfreds CE feature I don't see a use case for in midi honestly

[scarlet gale]

Zhell doesn't write for midi

[vast bane]

Yeah you gotta ask in here if you want midi stuff

[scarlet gale]

Nested effect doesn't seem to have much use for midi users

[vast bane]

sometimes freeze can come through with something in #macro-polo but you really shouldn't go there for on use macros

[wind pecan]

Yep know this. He said it wouldn't work with any rollers. If I turn on char sheet hooks it works fine as written while using WIRE or Midi

[vast bane]

is it really args anymore if we're all using this instead hehe

you can't mix and match zhells macros and midi

[scarlet gale]

Still needs args for macro passes

[vast bane]

turning on sheet hooks with midi going is neutering midi

just get the macro made for midi its usually 1 line change

[scarlet gale]

Post the macro, can easily be adjusted

[wind pecan]

the world script or the item macro that calls it?

[vast bane]

three-5 gurus here can help usually and then I can fumble through plagerizing them when none of them are around

[scarlet gale]

Whatever part is breaking

Probably the item macro

[vast bane]

no wait

just share what you want to do

zhell made the scripts based on no midi stuff, there could be simpler ways to do it within the midi umbrella

give us the feature description

or share it for Chris actually maybe it is as simple as changing a few lines

He's the guru lol

[scarlet gale]

99% of the time it's just changing the actor reference

[wind pecan]

so maybe this is a catch, but the item macro is slightly different (by design) for the various spells it's attacked to

or attached

psionicUse(item, {scale: false, dc: 8});

That's an example

[scarlet gale]

That's fine

[wind pecan]

Some items scale, some don't , they have varying DCs

I can break the world script into sections or upload it as a file, it's to large to copy/paste

[hollow tundra]

What is the attribute key for armor class and dexterity save bonus?

[vast bane]

ac has like 5 different things are you doing shield master?

[hollow tundra]

no im doing half cover

and three quarters cover

and maybe full cover

[scarlet gale]

Save as .js

[vast bane]

get dfreds ce bud

[hollow tundra]

not sure how i could implement full cover

[vast bane]

dfreds CE has them premade

[hollow tundra]

ive got that

it dosent

[hollow tundra]

oh

[vast bane]

right click them and add as status icon

[hollow tundra]

thanks

[vast bane]

see how mine have that icon on them

that happens when you right click and choose to add as status icon

you must refresh your browser/client after you add a new status icon

also midi automates cover now if you have simbuls installed

well it automates corner cover and creatures blocking creatures

[wind pecan]

One question Ive got is about reactions. some of these are reactions, and I'm not sure if the macro(s) get called or not because with my current setup they don't seem to be firing for the reaction based spells

[hollow tundra]

er i just tried the dodge status

it dosent seem to do anything

dosent grant disadvantage against attackers

[vast bane]

I didn't want to assume those were core status icons, but I guess they were

[vast bane]

yours is very likely set to NONE right now

or you don't have midiqol installed

yikes are you a midi user?

[hollow tundra]

i do believe i have midiqol installed and functioning

[vast bane]

show me the attack in chat

[vast bane]

is it argons dodge?

[hollow tundra]

yes

although

[vast bane]

thats why

[hollow tundra]

i tried both

argons

and not argons

maybe argon is interferring?

should i uninstall it

can use token hud instead

[vast bane]

if you right click the token and choose dodge status attack them and see what it does

[hollow tundra]

it does the same thing

dosent provide disadvantage

[vast bane]

go to the actors tab and show us a snippet of the actors tab

actores effect tab

[vast bane]

actually do you have attribution on...seriously I'm so begging tposney to make attribution on by default

[hollow tundra]

attribution?

[vast bane]

we really need attribution on for all it shouldn't be a toggle

I think this is another hidden issue

[hollow tundra]

where do i go to turn on attribution

[vast bane]

then attack that actor, and expand the left sides attack so it shows the break down of the roll in the merge card

you likely have a hidden advantage flag going on

which is likely literally Hidden

[scarlet gale]

Reactions will be tricky

It's unlikely midi will be able to function quite the same with those

[wind pecan]

I can just have the players give me a manual skill check for the reactions, not a big deal.

[vast bane]

@hollow tundra are you using fast forward?

[hollow tundra]

yes

[scarlet gale]

Your js file just looks like world scripts

[hollow tundra]

my alt click isnt working either

alt click isnt granting advantage

and ctrl click isnt granting disadvantage

[vast bane]

are you attacking via token action hud?

[hollow tundra]

no

[vast bane]

what does it say for attribution

[hollow tundra]

apparently the ghast had a hidden advantage

[vast bane]

Install the module find the culprit, and then run it with just libwrapper, socketlib, midi, and dae on.

[hollow tundra]

my alt click for advantage is still broken though

[wind pecan]

Yep. Zhell wrote it to work with core. I knew it's not written for Midi. Just wasn't sure what I'd need to do to make it "midi-friendly" that or the item macro that calls them

[vast bane]

ah HAH I called it

Hidden shakes fist

[scarlet gale]

The world script should be fine as is

I think

It's just on the macros that call it

[vast bane]

you must setup all your monsters vision settings, you can leave the vision disabled but they must have vision settings setup

[hollow tundra]

man what is going on haha this was nowhere this complicated when i used foundry 2 years ago

apparently

his vision was set to 0

so all attacks against him had advantage

how does that work lol

[scarlet gale]

Can't see attacker

[wind pecan]

I see,. I did try to fiddle with the little item macro a bit (not knowing what I was fully doing). I added the preItemRoll pass at the end, to test it, and that makes the macro function, but then it loops and doesn't actually cast the spell

[vast bane]

I honestly don't know what added the hidden thing

its kinda annoying cause you don't know its there

[scarlet gale]

You need to post the item macro too

[vast bane]

it was not there before 2.1.x dnd5e

[scarlet gale]

I only see the world script

[wind pecan]

Oh I did, but can again. it's a single line - one sec

[vast bane]

tposney added it at some point between 10.0.15 and 10.0.32 midiqol

[scarlet gale]

Recentish midi update

[vast bane]

yeah at first I thought it was stealthy but oddly stealthy stacks and stealthy puts an ae on the actor so we can see it

[wind pecan]

psionicUse(item, {scale: false, dc: 8});

[vast bane]

midi's is a like just a flag

[scarlet gale]

Ah

[wind pecan]

@scarlet gale I just have to tailor that for each spell to have them work as intended, changing the scaling and DC

[scarlet gale]

Is this making a new skill?

Midi replaces the skill roller iirc

[wind pecan]

Yep a new ability and a new skill

[scarlet gale]

So this might be a hard incompatibility

[vast bane]

Its probably a hard incompatibility with Wire too though fwiw

[wind pecan]

I'm not fast forwarding anything- so if I turn on Character Sheet hooks, how much of Midi gets bypassed that I might need?

[vast bane]

If you don't use the midi roller, why have midi on

[scarlet gale]

It'll break on use macros for sure

[wind pecan]

everything else it handles (reactions, checks hits, concentration)

[vast bane]

it will break save requests, skill challlenges

[hollow tundra]

Which option removed templates after placing them for spells?

[vast bane]

check hits theres a simple module for that, concentration you can go with cub or CN

reactions aren't an issue if you aren't using WIRE/MIDI

either that or you guys use the core sheet skills and abilities

Now I understand why someone forked dnd5e and keeps pesting tposney to keep sw5e compatible with midi, its for the custom skills lol

[scarlet gale]

Optional midi bonuses to skill checks would also likely break

[vast bane]

anything that calls the custom skill would have to be done via the core roller

or you can fork dnd5e and put in the PR's to make your fork compatible with midiqol like the sw5e guys do

[scarlet gale]

Or refactor the check to not be a skill

But a feature on the sheet

Can still act like a skill

Just can't actually be one

[vast bane]

I used to do that for tool checks

[scarlet gale]

At the end of the day

No easy fix

I'd go without midi if you can

[hollow tundra]

I have spells configured to remove template on expiry
But the fireball spell's template stays even after the damage is dealt

[wind pecan]

Harumph. If I went with the feature instead of a skill check, how would that work? Would the world script point at that instead of the skill, or would the rolling a DC idea have to get completely pitched?

[vast bane]

it should poof once a turn changes, or 1 second of time outside combat has progressed

[scarlet gale]

Would just be a case of the feature using the one line macro

Mostly

[vast bane]

can you and your table just work with the core skills/abilities? or are there more of them in your system?

[scarlet gale]

Your world script is mostly just adding a function that can be referenced from anywhere

[vast bane]

what system are you trying to convert to dnd5e?

[scarlet gale]

Along with adding a new skill

You could do a local midi change

But that I would recommend it

[wind pecan]

Its a single ability with a skill from that. This is 5e unearthed arcana, with a tiny bit of homebrew with the addition of the extra ability and skill

I Suppose I could turn on the core optional 5e ability of honor or whatever and just have everyone use their imagination

unless Midi souldnt recognize that either

[vast bane]

sanity and honor definitely work in midi

I use sanity in my live world

[wind pecan]

This is all about Psionics.... so Sanity could probably work.. some were afraid they would lose their minds when they underwent Psychic Surgery to unlock their wild psionic talents anyway...

I've franken-brewed 1e wild psionics, with the 5e mystic class and rules and just made my life so much more difficult in the doing

"seemed like a good idea"

I'm checking out Sanity in my test world now..

[vast bane]

should be fully functional I get it in MTB and in midi keys for ae's.

[wind pecan]

I can work with this... The "focus" skill that was based on my "Psionic" ability.. I can just have them do a sanity check instead of a focus check. I'm probably the only one that would care that the name doesn't really go along with the plot/story.

[scarlet gale]

Could always have a world script rename sanity most likely

[wind pecan]

Oh, hmm Ok so.. if I go down this road, would I just need to swap out the references to focus and Well or Psionics to be replaced with Sanity (in the world scripts)

[scarlet gale]

Kinda

[wind pecan]

I didn't realize the homebrewed ability and skill was what was throwing a wrench into everything

[scarlet gale]

Depends how sanity is setup

It looks more like a save type ability

[wind pecan]

when I roll it I get the choice for ability check or save

[scarlet gale]

Oh then you're good

[wind pecan]

for the small item macro, what would need to be added so Midi would knoww hat to do with it (and when)

And for lines that mention the skill like this,

item.actor.rollSkill("focus", {});

[vast bane]

the skills would not be possible

[wind pecan]

Id replace that with item.actor.rollAbility.sanity?

[vast bane]

unless focus and will were the same

then you could just do rollSave and do sanity and proficient the sanity save

ability checks are innately unable to be proficient

[wind pecan]

Hmm

[vast bane]

you could do a save but if you do this....why not just live with standard dnd5e and reskin the features as just arcana checks or something

or insight

are these additional skills?

and a 7th stat?

[wind pecan]

how I envisioned it originally, yes a 7th ability with a skill that's attached to that ability. This is all my own creation so I can tinker with it however to make it work smoothly. It's just a new facet of the campaign so I thought it deserved it's own ability and skill, and I've built out a class, and sub classes and features and like 40 spells

[vast bane]

you know, we don't know how wire works, but wire might have custom skill integration

[wind pecan]

WIRE doesn't seem to know what to do with thieves tools, so there's that

[vast bane]

neither does midi

MTB is the only thing I know of that handles them

[wind pecan]

like, it's not a rollable item

[vast bane]

yeah neither is midi tool

[wind pecan]

I guess I didn't realize that.. how have I not run across this before then... hmm

[vast bane]

oh I take that back

midi does use it

I have been using MTB for so long

Pretty sure its just core:

[scarlet gale]

Midi has its own tool roller I think

Maybe

[vast bane]

I use MTB cause I can set a dc

[wind pecan]

but WIRE for some reason doesn't recognize the tools..consumables yes no tools

seems an odd thing to leave out, but maybe hella complicated. I have no idea

[vast bane]

did you use the wire tools or dnd 5e srd tools cause lke everything in wire requires the wire srd

[wind pecan]

I've been wondering if my download was buggy..my srd WIRE compendium has one item in it

WIRE seems to be designed to have all of the items and spells work with special item macros.. I'm not sure if my homebrewed spells (with effects etc) are worth figuring out how to make the WIRE compatible

I'm almost to the point of just scrapping the whole idea. I've wasted so much time and energy trying to figure this all out

[vast bane]

I have a trap that is full bludgeoning damage no matter the save, and fire damage that is halved if they save. how the f do I do this?

[hollow tundra]

what option governs the range of a spell?

e.g. fireball has a range of 150 feet

[vast bane]

depends on the spell range/target on the item details does but its...complicated in midi

that would be the range in item details

[hollow tundra]

so would u recommend just manually remembering the range?

[vast bane]

and you shouldn't have to setup fireball its one of the rare few that work from the dnd5e srd compendium

[hollow tundra]

i was just wondering if the range of spells could be automated

if not ill just remember

[vast bane]

are you making your items from scratch?

[hollow tundra]

no

no way lol

from 5e or midiq ol

im just importing them in from the compendiums

[vast bane]

ok, when you spit out the item rolled, it should show those details along the bottom of the card

[hollow tundra]

yes

but i can shoot fire balls longer than 150 range

[vast bane]

you have a setting off in midi

its nonstandard too so someone told you to shut it off

[hollow tundra]

yeah i think i remember someone telling me to use one of the quicksettings

[hollow tundra]

thx

[vast bane]

some folks shut that off cause they get sick of dealing with opportunity attack micromanaging but my method for handling opp attacks is to just remove range from my players melee weapons cause they know their range, and then I just use the override key on monsters as the DM

[hollow tundra]

override key?

[vast bane]

its unbound by default but if you go into configure controls and scroll to midi, theres an O key thats redundantly bound to "other formula" which is honestly useless in midi nowadays, and you can rebind it to the "Override" option nearby thats unbound instead. Then when you hold down the O key, your monsters ignore their range limits and a bunch of other optional stuff shuts off like fast forward and auto roll I think maybe not I can't remember

opp attacks are when a person moves out of melee range of a person they can take a reaction attack but half the time it involves moving the actor back so that the 5ft reach weapon can hit it

[hollow tundra]

very smart

ill definitely take advantage of the override key

[vast bane]

borne out of frustration while running complex combats in midi

I just rage deleted all the playrs melee weapons distances in their range lol

[hollow tundra]

hmmm

oh yeah

what about

advantage or disadvantage for saves

like

[vast bane]

keep in mind override is DM only so you have to do my trick of deleting the ranges on players melee weapons if you want them to be able to ignore the distance

[hollow tundra]

certain undead will have advantage on turn undead

will the override key work for those undead too

when making a save?

[vast bane]

I don't fast forward, but there are keys for it in midi

[vast bane]

I'm pretty certain theres a key for this, but if there isn't, I use advantage reminder

I'm sure a guru can chime in and give an activation condition for advantage on wisdom saves if the spell/feature is named Turn Undead.

that'd be a good request from @violet meadow for his lil Activation Conditions workshop post.

[hollow tundra]

Is the override option in midi qol as well?

dosent seem to be there

[vast bane]

Its in Configure Controls, not Configure Settings

Oh its "No Optional Rules" sorry

[hollow tundra]

thanks

[vast bane]

Gm only as it says

[hollow tundra]

Is there a way to turn off the wounded status? It dosent really do anything and is just an eyesore.

[vast bane]

I think people do it cause theres this thing with online play where some dms dont want to show the hitpoint bar of monsters, and wounded lets you avoid having to say the line "Oh this guys lookin pretty bad guys" all the time in combat when turns come up

you can shut it off...its been moved from v9 I forget let me find it

Top of mechanics

I personally show bars so I probably could ditch the effect too myself

[hollow tundra]

Yeah i show bars too

if the player is above level 5 or so

id say theyre experienced enough to tell when a creature is on its last legs

[vast bane]

I think some people hide cause they fudge, which is fine I don't judge, but you can fudge with bars shown if you edit the sheet of the monster instead of the bar

[hollow tundra]

true

[vast bane]

in online vtt space its so annoying having to constantly relay the health of monsters so I just show lol

[hollow tundra]

cant blame a gm for fudging lol

[wind pecan]

Ok I have my world script rolling Sanity instead of my homebrewed skill/ability. Now I need to adjust the item macro that calls it to make it Midi friendly/recognized (I turned back off sheet hooks)

psionicUse(item, {scale: true, dc: 10});

[jade gazelle]

A spell like Cloud of Daggers should deal damage when a character steps into the radius. The cloud of daggers i'm using with midi only deals damage on the first turn, but not on the second turn if the character does not move, or when a new character enters the affected square. Is there a way to change it so every round, midi checks to see if a character is standing in something that will deal damage to them?

[strange dagger]

Hey guys, my interface is bugged to hell

[scarlet gale]

Does it still look like that if you only have midi-qol and it's requirements on?

[strange dagger]

Negative. I have no clue what module could be causing it tho

[scarlet gale]

Run find the culprit

[jade gazelle]

Why is it that SRD spells like Fire Shield deal damage to its caster when cast? It also is not auto dealing damage to attackers.

[scarlet gale]

Not midi SRD, but just regular ol' srd?

Midi just reads how the item is setup, the SRD items don't expect automation

So it likely just has a damage formula, and targets self

[strange dagger]

Culprit was chat reactions

[jade gazelle]

just regular old srd, is there a set i need to get?

[scarlet gale]

That module likely has some css tweak that's accidently touching too much stuff

[jade gazelle]

it's like some regular srds and ddbs work fine

[scarlet gale]

Not everything will just work out of the box.

You'll likely need to configure it yourself, the midi SRD might have that already setup

But I don't actually know

[jade gazelle]

is there a to make Midi react if a spell like fire shield is enabled? I know Hellish Rebuke works, but that asks the caster if they want to cast the spell.

[strange dagger]

I should definitely disable ready set roll if I plan on using MidiQoL features right?>

[scarlet gale]

Yep

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See above list of stuff midi doesn't work with

[strange dagger]

thank you

[vast bane]

because you shouldn't use dnd5e srd spells

[jade gazelle]

which ones should I be using?

[vast bane]

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums(this is the manual install link)
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

Chris' Module form of his macros:
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

Activation condition examples by ThatLonelyBugbear
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midi srd

its available in fork form cause the published version is v9 only

[scarlet gale]

(and stuff from the dnd beyond importer)

[jade gazelle]

Oh i have been importing d&d beyond stuff

[strange dagger]

this is confusing man lol

[jade gazelle]

most of the spells don't work there

[molten solar]

Cest la vie

[vast bane]

you need to use find the culprit we can't tell you whats breaking your midi, only you can

[scarlet gale]

@molten solar I seem to be unable to save a build a bonus on an item that's in the sidebar

It works fine while on an actor

[strange dagger]

No No I found that

[vast bane]

when you run find the culprit pre enable socketlib, and libwrapper

[strange dagger]

Just midi in general lol, and what it works with, and what I need to keep track of relating to it

[scarlet gale]

I get the notification that it saves, but then it doesn't go back to the previous screen

nor actually save lol

[vast bane]

the only things midi conflicts with is other rollers

dnd5e's core stuff shouldn't be used cause....its for core

[molten solar]

Quick test, unable to reproduce.

[scarlet gale]

hmm

[strange dagger]

So everything from the dndbeyond importer works with midi?

[scarlet gale]

Let me see if I can get it to reproduce the error

[scarlet gale]

The dnd beyond importer has a setting you need to check for it to generate effects for midi

it doesn't mean EVERYTHING will import good to go

But it does a good enough job for most things

[jade gazelle]

hmm okay

most spells do work, mostly spells that do direct damage

spells that include extra dice rolls as reactions etc seem to have issues

[molten solar]

Try without DAE.

[vast bane]

things that break in dnd5e core items in midi would be anything that has a suspended effect in it, torches, spells with weird damage formulas

but it doesn't matter, install midi srd

its all the bad spells fixed

and items and features

[jade gazelle]

yeah thanks man

[scarlet gale]

Must be something in my setup, it's only the one item

[molten solar]

"torch is an aoe wtf plz fix"
🤣

[jade gazelle]

I just have to "catch em all" and by "em all " i mean all spells that are mostly automated lol

[scarlet gale]

I'm going to guess some weird bad import

[vast bane]

funny thing is its still broken with midi srd

[scarlet gale]

Sorry for the bother!

[vast bane]

and the active token effects torch is also bad for midi

[molten solar]

spongebob_importers.gif

[vast bane]

between my copy paste you should have just about everything automated, just have to contend with monster abilities

[strange dagger]

So, if my players are fine with automation, what hiccups could I run into just turning on the full automation thing?

[vast bane]

I really should add dfreds CE to the list of premades but its already a core module for midi imo

[strange dagger]

I saved the json file of the base settings just in case

[vast bane]

I don't like full auto midi, I don't fast forward

advantage reminder is a great player aid and fast forwarding forfeits that modules use

[strange dagger]

So turn off fast forwarding definitely

[molten solar]

Regret.

[strange dagger]

...huh

[molten solar]

and players having no idea what 'automation' actually means.

For some that means "not having to add my PB myself"

[strange dagger]

I'm lost lol

[vast bane]

Zhell does not use midiqol

[strange dagger]

Alright lol

[vast bane]

but for real, I didn't use midi till my players fiddled with it in a session 0 and all decided they wanted it, not everyone likes automation

you also don't need to automate with midi, you can set its settings to manual and just use effect transfer

[strange dagger]

I have one game I'm running with 5 people, about 20 sessions deep already

I'm gonna be running a game soon with my custom classes thing and probably gonna try out MidiQoL in that game and see how it runs

Do you know of any good practices regarding it?

[vast bane]

I've been running dotmm for a full year this month and the partys only just starting floor 5 lol

[molten solar]

Mute #macro-polo /s

[vast bane]

plenty of macros I am using came from #macro-polo

[scarlet gale]

@molten solar For the custom script section of build a bonus, is it's just evaluated javascript right?

[vast bane]

the key is to identify when you need midi related ones or not

[molten solar]

Yes

[vast bane]

effect macro makes it easy to bypass midi for a macro

[scarlet gale]

does it run functions?

[molten solar]

Sure

As long as they are sync

[scarlet gale]

yea I saw that

and if I put something like myFunction(item)

it should work?

[molten solar]

I would think so

[strange dagger]

So does Midi automagically do advantage when necessary?

[vast bane]

if you set things up sure

[scarlet gale]

(on a related note, spell preparation mode as a filter would be nice)

[vast bane]

If you automate the why you have advantage

[scarlet gale]

does it need the ; at the end?

[strange dagger]

I assume the basic reasons to create advantage work in the system

Eh I'll just try it out and figure out if it's cool or not

[vast bane]

just ask yourself one simple question, why should it be advantage?

is the monster prone? if you have dfreds CE, have CE replace conditions problem solved

[jade gazelle]

One day 5e in foundry will basally be baldur's gate except with purely user generated content.

oh glorious day

[vast bane]

no thanks

video games are shitty dnd games

[molten solar]

Make an issue

[molten solar]

JS in general does not

[jade gazelle]

we're already doing the automation

[vast bane]

you may be

[molten solar]

Leave automation to modules so the rest of us can play in peace

[jade gazelle]

Exactly

all of the combat spells at least. The rp ones can stay lol

[scarlet gale]

@molten solar With only build a bonus active I'm getting the following issue:

Custom script of just true is invalidating it

[molten solar]

Well yeah

You aren't returning true

[scarlet gale]

oh, so it needs return as well

gotcha

[molten solar]

Yep. Anyhow, pings go in #dnd5e

[violet meadow]

@vast bane undead having advantage on turn undead is a candidate for a world script

[rustic knoll]

Hey, Does anyone know a good way of making it so that a creature has a thorns effect on it? I would like to make it so that when a player hits the creature they automatically take some damage.

[scarlet gale]

Either a manual reaction (easy), or worldscript territory

[rustic knoll]

ah, so no way to create a macro or anything on the creature?

I would rather not have to click an attack each time a hit is made. I was hoping more that it could just automatically damage them

no worries

[scarlet gale]

This for a non-homebrew creature?

[rustic knoll]

it can be for any creature was my hope. I sometimes create monsters that have spike effects or fire bodies that would cause any melee attack to cause damage back to the attacker

[vast bane]

don't you already have fiery aura in CPR?

[scarlet gale]

That's why I was asking, I had to make my own framework for on hit effects to get it to work

[gilded yacht]

Yeah the item only does double dice, and does not look at the settings.

The test for applying concentration is probably not all that smart - it checks to see if there are targets, but does not take the activation condition into account.

[scarlet gale]

I hook on item roll complete and look for flags on the target that is hit to trigger it

[gilded yacht]

It's a Convenient Effects "feature" of the 4.0.x release. I think a fix will be out in the next CE release.

[vast bane]

Oh fair warning I think I posted a midi issue about that

[rustic knoll]

Sorry, I think im being dim... Fiery aura? CPR?

[violet meadow]

You can use the onUpdateTarget and do that @rustic knoll

I have something for it. I will share later

[rustic knoll]

Thank you

[amber shore]

how would I make midi work with custom made things?

[vast bane]

That is kinda a question we can't answer

I guess the answer is the same way you do with dnd5e things but skills/abilities must remain unchanged

[gilded yacht]

preCheckHits is called after the attack roll is finished, so you cant add a bonus then. dnd5e.preAttackRoll is called after advantage is computed by the dnd5e attackRoll code. So probably the easiest solution is

Hooks.on("dnd5e.preRollAttack", (item, config) => {
  if (config.advantage) config.parts.push("2")}
)

There's probably some fancy footwork to be done about when the Hooks.once get sets via an item macro in preItemRoll, i.e. do the Hooks.once in the preItemRoll macro call for the item and then adjust the roll in dnd5e.preAttackRoll.
Quickened spell etc do something similar, the preItemRoll macro registers the Hooks.on for the item based on a test, you could do the same unconditionally for your item, so that the dnd5e.preIAttackRoll only fires for that item.

[amber shore]

fair enough

[vast bane]

if you asked about specifics we could help

[gilded yacht]

When you say custom made things, what do you mean? Midi looks for item.use to trigger the workflow and knows about feats/spells/weapons. What would be an example of the custom made thing of which you speak

[violet meadow]

Oh I forgot about that. Thanks for the answer.

I ended up hooking on the dnd5e Hooks too, but forgot to update my post 😶‍🌫️

[amber shore]

im looking to add a few custom classes,subclasses and spells and I was wondering if I need to do any extra manual work to make sure they play well with midi

[violet meadow]

@rustic knoll what are the specific of the feature you want?

[gilded yacht]

The dnd5e.preAttackRoll is the hook of last resort - it is called just before the roll is finally done, so you can fiddle to your hearts content in that and have it reflected in the roll that is then used by midi.

[gilded yacht]

Classes/subclasses don't really impact midi, other than via scale values which are all respected. Spells should be fine, midi uses the dnd5e fields (plus a few of its own) to determine outcome. In practice any spell/weapon, custom or otherwise, uses the same mechanism to play nicely with midi, set the item fields (in the way that midi expects) and it should work. However, specific examples of what you want is always a good idea.

[vast bane]

the funny thing about custom classes is you can change them to fit midi automation hehe

only time thing will get messy with midi is if you fiddle with the skills and ability names

[violet meadow]

Yeah I am playing with these hooks in the https://foundryvtt.com/packages/automated-conditions-5e

that reminds me that I need to use mergeObject in all these hooks

[rustic knoll]

@violet meadow I would like it to be set so when a creature lands a hit on the target, they take damage please.
I would like it to be possible for me to change the damage type and amount somehow so it can be used in the future for other creatures if I decide to add it.

[violet meadow]

@molten solar meaning that if you change something there, MidiQOL will for sure respect that, overriding its own workflow parameters more or less 🤷

[molten solar]

will this be on the test

[amber shore]

thanks for all the info

[violet meadow]

its in the SOS section but keep it on the down low

[violet meadow]

What would the radius be?
Whoever attacks from 5ft away? Melee no matter how far away?
Damage? DamageType?

[rustic knoll]

Radius would be 10 ft, damage would be 1d6 and type would be fire in this case

[hot flower]

Thanks to @violet meadow‘s smart hack I have modified the item macros to respect critical dice settings for sneak attack/rakish audacity and hunters mark. Happy to share.

Also does anyone in this channel ever sleep?

[scarlet gale]

No

6 am

I should have gone to bed 6 hours ago

[violet meadow]

me likey

[violet meadow]

Shout-out to Rayla the Brave who had done the grunt work of making sure all optional rules for critical handling were respected

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht I am looking for a way to make reactive damage more straightforward and not needing some sort of World script, and be able to pack everything in a shareable Item.

I have found a really janky workaround

oh shit the sent button was hit to early... I will be editing this post... 😩

I am creating a DAE.onUpdateTarget pro-grammatically in the ItemMacro of the Item ```js
const lastArg = args.at(-1);
//const damage = lastArg.originItem?.getRollData().item.formula; //this will be the damage done to the attacker if in melee.
if (args[0] === "on") { // create an onUpdate trigger for the actor
item = fromUuidSync(lastArg.origin);
const flagValue = getProperty(actor, "flags.dae.onUpdateTarget") ?? [];
const onUpdateData = {
filter: "system.attributes.hp.value",
sourceTokenUuid: lastArg.tokenUuid,
targetTokenUuid: lastArg.tokenUuid,
sourceActorUuid: lastArg.actorUuid,
origin: lastArg.origin,
macroName: "ItemMacro.Fiery Fire",
flagName: "FireyFire"
};
flagValue.push(onUpdateData);
await actor.setFlag("dae", "onUpdateTarget", flagValue);
}

Then in the else if (lastArg.tag === "onUpdateTarget") I am trying to check if the Source of the Attack that damaged the effectOrigin and triggered the updateActor is in radius

Issue, the Attacker is not passed in the args.

It can be found, by going into the lastArg.targetToken.targeted and checking who has targeted said token, and working my way up to user.character.getActiveTokens().

[scarlet gale]

That seems very convoluted

[violet meadow]

But its a pain and not easy to validate the correct user who has the token targeted.

Can MidiQOL add the attackerToken.uuid at some point in the data passed to updateActor Hook?

I am trying to find where/if it makes sense for MidiQOL to Hook on the preUpdateActor and do a ```js
setProperty(update, "flags.midi-qol.damageSourceUuid", workflow.token.uuid)

[violet meadow]

it sounds more convoluted than it actually is 😅

[violet meadow]

OK success

Will now need to see if I broke something though 😅

Probably best to provide the uuid of the Item that is responsible for the damage that leads to the updateActor

I went into workflow.js and added as line 667 this: ```js
Hooks.once("preUpdateActor", (actor, update, options, user) => {
const hpUpdate = getProperty(update, "system.attributes.hp.value");
const temphpUpdate = getProperty(update, "system.attributes.hp.temp");
if(!!hpUpdate || !!temphpUpdate)
setProperty(update, "flags.midi-qol.damageSourceForInstantReaction",{damageSourceTokenUuid:this.tokenUuid,damageSourceItemUuid:this.item.uuid});
});

[fringe crag]

Chris, do you plan on making a hexblade's curse macro someday? I don't see it in your github

[violet meadow]

I think Chris has one 🤔

Anyways this is the one I am using and you can find out how to setup here https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/tree/main/MidiQOL_related/Class Features/Hexblade's Curse/v10

[fringe crag]

Thanks!

[wind pecan]

I've got 6 small one line macros, written to be used as item macros, that all call on the same world scripts to do things to the spells they are attached to. I was wondering if someone could help me with making one of the macros Midi-friendly (I'd be able to figure out how to modify the other 5), so I can use them with Midi? Right now they only way they work is if I turn on Character Sheet Hooks.

[timber oyster]

Hello there guys, wanted to ask a question relative to Simbul's cover calculator and its interaction with midiqol, i found it really usefull but we're finding a problem

is there any way to make a token with eitehr dead or prone not create half-cover?

i dont mean manually, as it can be done through token options, but autoamtically

maybe through cub's triggler?

[young thicket]

I want this item being attuned to--to double the damage for all utility abilities (they have custom attack utilities). Cannot get it to multiply at all; let alone by 2, for the life of me. If a macro can be offered instead Ill take anything at this point.
Image

[kind cape]

Pretty sure that is a setting in Simbuls to ignore dead creatures

[kind cape]

Try setting it to custom mode and the value to *2

[young thicket]

I tried that just now and it doesnt seem to have any effect either, thank you though!!

[kind cape]

Huh, could have sworn I did something similar, but not at a PC to verify what I did

[violet meadow]

Best to share the macros too so we can take a look easier with less back and forth 😁

[violet meadow]

Never used that key, what's supposed to do?😅

[wind pecan]

psionicUse(item, {scale: false, dc: 10});

There it is. I've got a gaming session abotu to start so I'll be away for a few hours.. thanks for looking into it

[violet meadow]

Ok I think I am missing lots of context 😅

[young thicket]

Supposed to multiply the damage die for damage based utility abilities. If it worked. But I cant get it to double the damage die for them.

[molten solar]

I wrote a mini module for them using item macro and NOT midi

Specifically knowing they were not, at the time, using midi

aaaaand with the warning not to use it with midi

Good luck

[molten solar]

You can't use what I wrote if you use Midi. Delete one or the other. It will require a complete rewrite, so either scrap the script or ditch Midi.

[violet meadow]

Make an issue in the MidiQOL repository.
I still have no idea what that is 😁😅

[fluid berry]

I love the automation of damage with MidiQOL, but I'm wondering if there's a way to adjust the size of the number as damage is displayed. It seems to almost correspond with how much damage is done vs the creature's health pool (bigger health pool, the smaller the size of the font when it shows damage or vice versa). I didn't see anything in the Midi settings itself, so I'm wondering if that's coded in the .json and I'd have to fiddle?

[molten solar]

Scrolling damage on the map scales with the grid size.

[fluid berry]

Oh, interesting; my eyes must be playing tricks on me. Is there a way to adjust its scaling value without digging into the code or adjusting grid size?

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL doesn't touch that aspect at all. Probably world script territory in #macro-polo 🤷‍♂️

[fluid berry]

Hmmm, okay. Thanks for the direction!

[unborn star]

Hi all.
Is is possible to make the Evation feature ignore damage from successful dexterity saving throws?

[kind cape]

Have you looked at the Evasion item in the Midi QOL sample compendium?

[unborn star]

I didn't know it existed. I will have a look

Hmm how do i find this? it doesn't show up when i search my compendium tab for midi?

[kind cape]

What version of Midi are you running? 🤔

[unborn star]

it says 10.0.32

[kind cape]

Then you should definitely have the compendium, the exact name is MidiQOL Sample Items

[unborn star]

odd.. nothing shows up :/

[kind cape]

That is extremely weird

[violet meadow]

Are you a player?

Maybe it's hidden?

[unborn star]

I'll try to uninstall the module and install it again.

No im the GM and doing this on the App on my PC

[kind cape]

Also I just realized, Evasion is not in the sample items, Uncanny Dodge is 🤔

Well, it should be as simple as giving the Evasion feat an effect that sets this

With that being said I would recommend you fix your compendiums, lots of useful items in there

[unborn star]

I've just tried to uninstall and install again .Still nothing... wierd

[molten solar]

Disable Compendium Folders

[unborn star]

is that the thing causing this?

but its so useful for the rest of my compendiums 😦

[molten solar]

Just disable it temporarily so it shows up again

[kind cape]

I have that and the Midi compendium shows up fine for me

[molten solar]

They hid it using CF

[kind cape]

Oooh right, it adds the ability to hide, forgot about that

[unborn star]

It does show when i disable compendium folders, but it dissapears when i reenable CF. Is it possible to keep it visible with CF on? I doesn't have the "hidden" icon with CF off

[molten solar]

Edit some folder and put the pack in there

[strange dagger]

Is there a way to turn off automatic crit damage with midi qol?

[unborn star]

@molten solar @kind cape I just duplicated it, worked fine. Thanks a bunch both of you!

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPgIkBHQCeyORsk/giphy.gif

[vast bane]

Yeah, dont fast forward

[kind cape]

The advantage of being spread across like 5 timezones 😂

[quasi needle]

is there an example somewhere of a light cantrip that actually changes the light settings of the targetted token?

[vast bane]

if you have active token effects, midiqol, and dfreds ce installed, the vanilla dnd5e light cantrip should work as is, however right now there is a bug in version 32 of midi that should be fixed in 33 that breaks it. You have to just toggle the dfreds ce light cantrip manually till the fix comes out.

midi and dfreds automate together and if you have a spell that matches the name of a dfreds CE midi auto applies the ce, but the bug in 32 is that the durations are getting screwed up on them so they shut right off after casting them, in 33 it will be fixed

there is no simple downgrade to go with as midi, dae, and dfreds ce are complicated atm

If you are on dnd5e 2.0.3, I recommend midi 23 or 24, dae 14, and dfreds 3.1.1
If you are on dnd5e 2.1.x update to 2.1.5 and you can run the newest midi/dae/dfreds ce

Dfreds CE 4.0 requires midi 32+ and dae 22+.

If someone really wanted the dfreds ce automation fixed temporarily now before midi 33 comes out they would need to downgrade dfreds ce to 3.1.1, dae to 21, and midi to 29

[quasi needle]

oh shit, just enabled dfred's the other day, didn't realize light worked now. never mind 🙂

[vast bane]

the auto transfer from midi will be broken, it will end when you advance the turn unless you edit its duration manually

if you just toggle it on via the dfreds window its fine

[quasi needle]

cast it with light cantrip both in and out of combat, cycled through rounds, worked fine, didn't expire

[vast bane]

what version of dfreds ce and midi are you on

you probably lack times up, and that's actually a funny way to fix the problem

I need al the yummy special durations so I can't drop times up just to fix my 3 dfreds ce auto applies I utilize hehe

[quasi needle]

4.0.3, 10.0.32, have times up, but i do notice that the duration listed on the effect is none

[vast bane]

do you have simple calendar?

[quasi needle]

yes, and i unpaused it

[vast bane]

weird for me it ends after 1 turn in combat, not sure about out of combat

either way fixed in 33

[quasi needle]

👍

lol, tried to cast light on allied token, kept making the save. is there a was to flag the spell editor to not attempt saves on friendlies?

[vast bane]

this is another reason why I prefer not to fast forward

Does anyone know if theres a way to make the paladin aura not affect sanity saves?

other than manually making it 6 keys instead of 1 key I suppose?

[violet meadow]

I would think no. Just use the keys you need

🤷‍♂️

[nimble yacht]

The default tokenmagic effects are great, but how would I implement a custom effect? or modify and existing one?

[violet meadow]

I have almost made all reactive damages work in a really straightforward way. Some more testing needed 😁

[vast bane]

I can't find the individual save keys

I can only find a deprecated one I think is wrong

[violet meadow]

I think that the tokenmagic repository states how to do that

[nimble yacht]

thanks ill take a look

[violet meadow]

Otherwise I think Aedif has a module that does that

Or a macro

[vast bane]

Mass Edit allows you to edit an existing tmfx on something and then save it as a new default with a good UI

otherwise tmfx on its own its weird complicated macros to do it all

[oblique scaffold]

I was using the midiqol sample Hunter's Mark item for a session and it was fine, next session it stopped working. Casting the spell adds the effect, but when I attack and hit, it does not add the additional 1d6 of damage. Any idea what I may be doing wrong?

[vast bane]

does it work right now? show us what it looks like in chat when you attack and it fails

My first thought is module interactions

you'd know if you added modules between the sessions

[oblique scaffold]

it is not working currently, here's a screenshot of chat:

[nimble yacht]

the token magic repo page is pretty in depth, ty, just what i needed

[oblique scaffold]

No new module installs, I think I updated some modules, I'm not sure of which ones though at this point

[vast bane]

Ok gurus, we've seen this before, who remembers what weird interaction this was

[vast bane]

do you see any errors during the casting of hunters mark and during the attack with the longbow?

[vast bane]

Mass Edit module has a much simpler front facing UI to edit and save new tmfx filters

[oblique scaffold]

@vast bane Oh, yes actually, on casting HM I am getting this:

    at eval (eval at callMacro (workflow.js:1625:15), <anonymous>:19:40)
    at Workflow.eval (eval at callMacro (workflow.js:1625:15), <anonymous>:45:4)
    at Workflow.callMacro (workflow.js:1626:14)
    at Workflow.callMacros (workflow.js:1516:21)
    at Item5e.doItemUse (itemhandling.js:254:34)```

sorry, I missed that before

[vast bane]

Someone needs to go through the samples and put in a PR for tim, his samples are starting to show their age

[violet meadow]

Hunter's Mark is working as supposed to be working from a quick test

Just dragged it from the compendium and used it

Version of MidiQOL and DAE + Foundry ans sytem?

[nimble yacht]

I'll take a look, ty

[oblique scaffold]

midiqol 10.0.32, dae 10.0.22, dnd5e 2.1.5

[violet meadow]

OK I would clear the Hunter's Mark from the character sheet and drag and drop it directly from the compendium

When does this error pop up?

[oblique scaffold]

cleared it from the sheet, deleted existing effects and re-added it from the compendium, same result.

The error appears when I click the spell, but before I have confirmed use of the spell slot

[violet meadow]

Did you try with only MidiQOL, DAE, socketlib and libwrapper modules enabled?

[oblique scaffold]

not yet, I'll give that a go

[oblique scaffold]

Still occurs with just these modules enabled

[violet meadow]

OK is this from a player's account or a GM?

[oblique scaffold]

currently as a GM

[violet meadow]

Drag a new actor from the Starter Heroes SRD

Give that actor the Hunter's Mark 10.0.23 Item (spell)

Cast it to a target from that Actor

[oblique scaffold]

Same result

[violet meadow]

I will send you my MidiQOL settings to try and see what happens

[oblique scaffold]

gotcha

[vast bane]

may want to export your settings first so you can rapidly revert if his settings don't fix it

[vast bane]

what is your socketlib and libwrapper versions

[oblique scaffold]

socketlib 1.0.12, libwrapper 1.12.12.0

[vast bane]

any world scripts and did the settings fix you?

[oblique scaffold]

no world scripts, and unfortunately no, settings did not fix.

I tried targeting a new actor, that did remove the error, however it is still not adding the d6 of damage

[vast bane]

a starter hero also has the issue hmmm

reinstall all 4 modules is my only guess now, this is assuming all that has been said was done

your issue makes no sense since we all can use it just fine and you have tested with just the 4 enabled and using our settings.

are you sure you are shutting off all modules?

what is your foundry build?

[violet meadow]

If you're in combat try ending a turn and attacking again

[vast bane]

Hmark should be any amount per turn fwiw, its favored foe thats once per turn

[violet meadow]

true

Also remove that screenshot @oblique scaffold 👍

[oblique scaffold]

I'll try reinstalling all four modules and see if anything changes, sorry about that, removed

[oblique scaffold]

all four modules reninstalled, just these four modules active, casted midiqol Hunter's mark from a starter hero onto a different target then what I had used before, received the error I posted before, and still no hunter's mark damage

at this point I think I am somehow cursed

[vast bane]

make a new world

[vast bane]

when you updated from 2.0.3 dnd5e to 2.1.x dnd5e, did you at any time revert to 2.0.3 when everyone said never to do that?

[oblique scaffold]

No, I don't recall ever doing that, making the new world now

[vast bane]

I'm grasping at straws here but you could also try the macros/migration stuff for 2.1.x, I think its the dev post in the pins in dnd5e but that is a hail mary idea and likely totally useless to try

[scarlet gale]

That error has nothing to do with a migration issue

[vast bane]

We're in desperate mode for them at this point lol

[oblique scaffold]

It does work in the new world, so I'm guessing there is some kind of corruption in the existing world?

[scarlet gale]

It's looking for a DAE flag that it can't find

[vast bane]

or that it doesn't have permission to make...

are you sure you are a dm?

[scarlet gale]

actor.flags.dae.onUpdateTarget
It's getting the error as it reaches onUpdateTarget

[oblique scaffold]

yes, was logged in as the DM

[scarlet gale]

Meaning the dae thing isn't setting the flag for whatever reason

[vast bane]

they tried on a starter hero and got the error I'm hard pressed to think of anything that could stop it

did you ever say what build of foundry you were on?

[scarlet gale]

I would verify like every version number

Foundry, dnd, midi-qol, dae

[vast bane]

they showed us the 4 base modules and were fine, just foundry build is unknown

[oblique scaffold]

yes, foundry v10 build 291

[scarlet gale]

dnd version?

[oblique scaffold]

2.1.5

[violet meadow]

Can you screenshot your DAE settings?

[vast bane]

can you show us a snippet of the top right, at this point we have to rule out you, no offense meant its just this is uncanny

[oblique scaffold]

no worries, I understand:

[oblique scaffold]

which section?

[vast bane]

dae doesn't have sections

[scarlet gale]

Unrelated, but for people who use token magic fx and automated animations. What's your solution for making templates not have the token magic effect if it has a AA animation?

[vast bane]

theres 2 checkboxes you must uncheck in tmfx due to an issue that otigan setup on aa

[oblique scaffold]

oh right, sorry:

[vast bane]

If you want AA to work perfectly these three must be unchecked:

(in tmfx)

top one shuts off tmfx, but otigan checks the second or third instead of the master switch

[scarlet gale]

Will I still get a template effect if there isn't an animation with the settings like this?

[vast bane]

if you uncheck these three and have no AA animation setup, it will be default the color of the player placing it, and aa has a setting to hide that color unless you hover over it

[scarlet gale]

I want the token magic effect if there isn't an AA ideally. As a fallback of sorts

[vast bane]

I dunno if you can pull that off, its kinda hard to get the dev modules to interact with the mod community

[scarlet gale]

hmm

[violet meadow]

hihihi

[vast bane]

you could set a macro to apply a tmfx animation manually and abandon if an AA exists

[scarlet gale]

I know I can just update the template with the flags

[scarlet gale]

Your module?

[violet meadow]

SIFToolkit updated to v10

[vast bane]

thats SIFT

[violet meadow]

I will publish it soon

[vast bane]

I still don't like that cause doesn't it do the red error from midi on turn change?

or is sift silencing the midi "wtf where is it" error?

[scarlet gale]

I could make my own dumb fix now that I think about it

[violet meadow]

I cannot see an error when testing

[vast bane]

I'd rather just make aa's cause aa animations rock

[scarlet gale]

hook templates being placed and match the AA menu...

[vast bane]

whenever aa deletes a template it shouldn't, when midi tries to kill the template dae on the source actor it throws a red message saying it can't find something

[oblique scaffold]

thank you for the troubleshooting all, I think for now I'll just handle the hunter's mark damage manually, sorry for being problematic

[vast bane]

can you humor me and run the macro in the dnd5e channel pins

its the one by dev#

[scarlet gale]

That has nothing to do with this

[violet meadow]

not at all. Something strange is happening.

[vast bane]

it can't harm his setup though

[violet meadow]

Maybe a reinstall of the modules might help

[vast bane]

he already did that

[violet meadow]

It seems it cannot set a flag for some reason

[vast bane]

its something about that world

his new world works fine

[violet meadow]

@oblique scaffold did you test with source and target being two new ones from the Starter Heroes (SRD)?

[vast bane]

good call cause a new world would only have dnd5e stuff

maybe its his monsters

[oblique scaffold]

just did, no change I'm afraid

[vast bane]

also for the record, we've troubleshooted this issue before here, someone had their damage bonus macros not working and I forget what the solution was, I'm getting huge dejavu with this

I think theres was sneak attack

try dragging out a dnd5e aboleth and a starter hero ranger fresh, and drag hunters mark to the ranger and try it

[oblique scaffold]

just tried that, same issue unfortunately

[vast bane]

This is my dae settings fyi:

[oblique scaffold]

yeah tried that as well with the same result

[vast bane]

are you in the app or a browser

[oblique scaffold]

app

[vast bane]

ctrl f5, and have you closed and reopened?

[violet meadow]

well try from a browser just for fun!

[oblique scaffold]

yes after the reinstall, just tried again though, same issue

[oblique scaffold]

same thing in browser

[vast bane]

This one is going to haunt me guys

[vast bane]

Promise me if you ever figure this out you will ping me what it was

I got one more idea... HOW are you rolling hunter's mark?

show me the thing you literally press to roll hunter's mark

[oblique scaffold]

will do, and just clicking the icon for the spell:

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/4SZxcPTtlGAZa/giphy.gif

God I got nothin, this ones gonna burn in my memory

[scarlet chasm]

@molten solar I got a question i cannot seem to find the Babonus on my module list to activate it, even though i had made sure to install it to the most current update of 10.4.3, but it wouldnt show on my module list at all, i had to down grade it to 10.3.6 for your module, and from there i can activate it. Is there a module requirement that i am missing for it?

[nimble yacht]

has anyone here made a good implementation of save 3 times before failing 3 times effects? for spells like contagion and flesh to stone?

[nimble yacht]

Is there a way to request one of two saves from a player with midi?
For example, a feature requires a dex or str save, chosen by the player. The DM uses the feature and targets the player, the player gets the LMRTFY dialog with an option of str or dex

[spice kraken]

Would need a macro. With LMRTFY you can at least select multiple saves and save that as a macro

[nimble yacht]

mmk, might end up catching a hook so I can make the saves dynamic with a dialog box. Do you know the hook midi uses before requesting saves of the top of your head? or where i can find it?

[spice kraken]

Nope, I rarely mess with macros

[nimble yacht]

alrighty, back into the depths of documentation i go lol

[spice kraken]

Have fun

[scarlet gale]

This a monster feature?

That sounds similar to the Deadly Leap from a Bulette:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Features/Monster Features/Bulette/Chris-DeadlyLeap.js

[spice kraken]

FYI Chris, put links inside <> and it won't pop up the embed

[nimble yacht]

an interesting implementation, but that looks like it just picks the higher of the two automatically. I'm more looking on implementing a new feature that lets a character optionally pull from a resource pool to change the ability they use on a save. So in short, no its not a monster feature. It'd be closer to a character feature

[scarlet gale]

ah

Could do a dialogue instead of picking the better save

[nimble yacht]

yeah, I think the easiest way will be to hook onto midi save requests and just tag a dialog onto that if the target has the feature. was hoping to avoid writing more code, but it is what it is

[scarlet gale]

It appears as though when an actor is immune to crits, the target will still take the non-crit damage even if the attack roll didn't beat the target AC.

[celest bluff]

it is free https://www.patreon.com/posts/sleep-73239028

[vast bane]

Critical hit is not the same thing as natural 20

if it was an increased crit range then thats a problem, but if they rolled a 20, rules as written that always hits

[scarlet gale]

If the d20 roll for an attack is a 20, the attack hits regardless of any modifiers or the target's AC. This is called a critical hit, which is explained later in this section.
This suit of armor is reinforced with adamantine, one of the hardest substances in existence. While you're wearing it, any critical hit against you becomes a normal hit.
You sure?

[vast bane]

yes cause theres two terms, natural 20 is another defined term

[scarlet gale]

Where at?

I suppose it does say it becomes a normal hit

but does that mean it still gets the regular ac check?

bleh

[vast bane]

man I really can't wait for a parseable phb and dmg

yeah its in the wording of adamantine armor

you don't cancel the natural 20, you cancel the double dice

the hit becomes a "normal" hit

it doesn't say you miss

It doesn't say the attack becomes a normal attack, it says it becomes a normal hit

[scarlet gale]

That's so poorly worded

but I guess that solves that

[lost estuary]

How do you implement this?

I am looking to impose disadvantage on an attack roll as a reaction.

correction, On hit*

[molten solar]

dnd5e 2.1.4 or later

And don't ping me in here, use #dnd5e instead 🙂

[scarlet chasm]

I'll keep that in mind for next time, thanks Zhell

[violet meadow]

@tired flint MidiQOL, Hex: https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/FoundryMacros/blob/main/MidiQOL_related/Spells/Hex/macro.js

Also make sure to check Chris' trove of Premade Items in https://foundryvtt.com/packages/chris-premades

[hard oxide]

Hi guys I have some issues but idk how to replicate it. Sometime when I do encounters in sessions (I use midiQol full automation) when I do some attack rolls on NPC they just do the attack rolls, and it bugs out and never do the damage dice, then I have to do another attack roll and it rolls it on the SAME attack chart and rolls damage with it this time

[next basalt]

If I'm using midi, do I still need About Time or Times Up if I have simple calendar? I mean, will it break anything with the automation other than conditions expiring?

[spice kraken]

Brother man

#dnd5e message

[violet meadow]

About Time is not needed except if you know what to do with it 🙂

[violet meadow]

ahhhh 😄

[spice kraken]

I tried 😂

[next basalt]

We both know I don't 😅 how about Times Up?

[violet meadow]

When it happens again, open console (press F12) and check if there are any red errors coming up

[spice kraken]

Reading can be hard, I forgive you 😂

[hard oxide]

https://gyazo.com/751326b0956e5a7ef4bce38f07313458

[next basalt]

Sorry, wrong post for that

[hard oxide]

What I did is i put a goblin on the map, gave him a greatsword and then target hit a player

https://gyazo.com/ad7387594b509ba403de3b3d10205a5b

Another screen, another goblin with same thing tried, same stuff happened (I scrolled down the advantage/disadvantage thing for you to see

[spice kraken]

FYI, on windows you can press windows key + shift + s and take a quick screenshot and paste here

[hard oxide]

i didnt know thanks you i will use it now

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL version?

[hard oxide]

10.0.32

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht regarding <#1010273821401555087 message>, it seems that for some reason midiProperties are sometimes not "set" on an Item and utils.js:1907 breaks when checking ```js
if (item?.flags.midiProperties.ignoreTotalCover && item.type === "spell")

[violet meadow]

Try going in the item details tab, down to the bottom change one of the properties there, for instance check the No Full Cover box and try again

[hard oxide]

I tried even without now it works for no reason, idk why

For now it works, I tried your thing too but it works without too, so i really dont know whats happening. Is it because sometime I have too many actors ? (last time was 16 actors, 6 players and 10 monsters and it was randomly bugging), is it because of lags ?

[violet meadow]

Not sure what exactly causes it, but there was another user that had the exact same issue 🤷

[vast bane]

is the character a ddb imported character?

[violet meadow]

Not doable on hit easily

Janky workaround is available though

[vast bane]

I see what you did there

[hard oxide]

Yes its from ddb compendium, same for weapons

[vast bane]

I dunno I think this cover bug is a ddb importer thing they all have it

this last version tim had changed how the cover checkbox worked, I'm guessing its somehow thrown the importers off slightly

[knotty hollow]

Hey, I have an item that does +1 to attack and damage rolls, but I want it to also change to +2 to attack and damage if the attack is made against a creature who damaged the user since their last turn - is this possible to set up?

[tired flint]

Thank you!

[violet meadow]

Probably doable, DAE flags and some macros.
I will take a look and if it's doable easily I will share it back

[knotty hollow]

Thanks 🙂

[violet meadow]

re-read it and it's not as easy as I first thought.

You need the bonus to apply if you attack a creature on your turn that attacked you any time between your current turn and your previous one

Still doable but needs a different approach

[knotty hollow]

Yeah I thought it might be tricky, it's one of Griffon's Saddlebag items from book 1 and it seems cool but figured it would be tricky to implement

[pine maple]

@violet meadow here is the macro in question

main()

async function main(){
   // Get selected token
    if(canvas.tokens.controlled.length == 0 || canvas.tokens.controlled.length > 1)
    {
        ui.notifications.error("Please make sure your have your token selected!")
        return
    }

    let actor = canvas.tokens.controlled[0].actor
    
    // TODO: Get stack count

    // Apply damage
    let newHP = actor.system.attributes.hp.value - 10 // TODO: roll dice here
    actor.update({"system.attributes.hp.value": newHP})

}```

[violet meadow]

Do you use MidiQOL?
And does the user have permission to update the actor which has the effect on?

[pine maple]

MidiQOL is enabled, I have permissions to update this token as well (it's my PC).

[violet meadow]

Try this ```js
if (args[0] === "each") {
const effectActor = fromUuidSync(args.at(-1).actorUuid);
const newhp = Math.max(Number(effectActor.system.attributes.hp.value) - 10, 0);
effectActor.update({"system.attributes.hp.value": newhp});
}

If you want to be able to undo the damage you can use `MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage()`

small edit

[pine maple]

Ah, that makes sense. So it's not running due to extra parameters probably? Strange I didn't see any errors about it though

[violet meadow]

Do you have advanced macros module enabled?

[pine maple]

Probably not, didn't know that was a setting

[pine maple]

Ah, no

How should I define args as a parameter? Not familiar with javascript

main(args) like this?

[dark canopy]

you actually dont need that main function wrapper

if this is the entirety of the script

[pine maple]

oh, nice

[violet meadow]

args are provided by DAE

just include a console.log(args) in your macro and check what is provided.
Or take a look at the DAE readme

[pine maple]

Ok, so with these changes I still get nothing at end of turn unfortunately.

I added the console.log(args) line and nothing is logging either (and no errors)

[violet meadow]

OK is the DAE set as a Transfer to actor on item equip if its on an Item (details tab on the actual effect)

Or how do you set this effect up?

[pine maple]

I just made an effect under passive effects, gave it the macro repeat flag and set the effect like this

Does it need to be part of an item?

[violet meadow]

nope.

[violet meadow]

And printstuff is a script macro?

any errors?

[pine maple]

It's a script macro, yeah. No errors or feedback that it's running at all in the console.

[violet meadow]

OK and the actor in in combat and you end its turn 🤔

[pine maple]

Yeah, I'll try restarting the combat but that shouldn't cause issues afaik

No dice unfortunately

[violet meadow]

So nothing posts in console when changing rounds?

[pine maple]

There's some messages like "It's your turn!" from other modules and the like, but nothing from the script or QOL/DAE.

[violet meadow]

So nothing like this

from a VMxxxxx something

[pine maple]

No :/

This is the entire output

[violet meadow]

Just to make sure

Cause this is strange if the DAE is active on the combatant

and no errors in console!

[dark canopy]

are you sure its not filtered out in the log? can also drop a debugger in the macro somewhere and if the macro is being executed locally (are you a player or GM, and are there others connected?) it should 100% halt execution

[pine maple]

I'm a player in the campaign, the GM is connected.
Not sure how to add a debugger, sorry

[violet meadow]

Just add debugger up top in the macro

[pine maple]

Ah, makes sense

Still no breakpoint though

[violet meadow]

Do you happen to have more that one macros with the same name?!

[pine maple]

Nope, we don't really use macros in the campaign
I'll change the name to something I'm sure we're not using though

[dark canopy]

this is DAE? right?

DAE executes code wherever the hell it wants

so you cannot depend on it ever executing locally

ran into this early on with warpgate -- sometimes the GM executed the code, sometimes the player did, SOMETIMES it was GM for ON and player for OFF 😵‍💫

[pine maple]

So it's not guaranteed to run on my client, but it should still perform the HP update no?

I'll make a blank project to test this out it, it could be another module messing with it or something.

Thanks for the help, I'll message again if I still need help, but I don't think there's much else to do.

[dark canopy]

well

effectActor is a string

not an actor

so it has no update function

[violet meadow]

ffs I need coffee...

[violet meadow]

OK so if a player executes a DAE macro, and the actor affected by it is owned by the player, ON/OFF is executed locally.

If the player executes a DAE macro and the actor affected by it is non-owned by the play, ON/OFF is farmed to the GM.

EACH always on the GM's client.

[strange dagger]

Hey, I thought I saw this setting on the Midi settings, but I can't find it now - basically a way for my players to choose their damage type when rolling damage

They have a feature that lets them do slashing or piercing damage with their sword

[violet meadow]

Workflow tab in the workflow settings of MidiQOL.

You must not Auto Roll or FF damage

[strange dagger]

thank you lol

I'm tired and could not find it for the life of me

[magic kraken]

Is there a way to activate a critical roll margin on a per-weapon basis?

(dnd5e)

Like a weapon trait that allows to-hits above AC +10 to be considered crits

[violet meadow]

Is that what you need? This can be customised in MidiQOL settings -> Workflow settings -> Rules tab

[high delta]

Hey guys. Anyone with a idea how to make midi-qol to take "heavy armor mastery" feat in calculation?

[magic kraken]

I am pretty sure that allows for every single attack roll

[violet meadow]

yes

[vast bane]

look at the DR flags not dr

[magic kraken]

Looking for a weapon trait that enables crit roll margin