MidiQOL

[queen raptor]

Midi is now referencing the custom Concentrating effect; thank you!

[vast bane]

Theres also protection from evil and good

which has a non condition example in it(Possession)

[violet meadow]

Parsing item descriptions might be another way to do it, but I wanted to see if there was a guide someplace that has these written down, to see what I would be working with

[scarlet gale]

Why not just look at the effect data?

[vast bane]

Dwarven Resilience and Protection from Poison.

[scarlet gale]

There's like 3 ways people apply conditions.

[violet meadow]

There are not gonna be any effects

No conditions, no flags nothing 😄

[scarlet gale]

macro.ce, StatusEffect, and CUB

[violet meadow]

Just plainly, if Elf roll against Charm with advantage

[scarlet gale]

That's what I mean tho

[vast bane]

custom lineage gonna fuck with that

[scarlet gale]

Check the item that's being used for what effect data it has

Then parse that

[vast bane]

I'm all for improvements but fwiw, I just use advantage reminder for all of those use cases

obviously you fast forward folks can't benefit

[scarlet gale]

I worldscripted it. I slap a quick effect on the targets if they have the right flag on the actor.

I couldn't figure out a way to get remote targets to a have advantage directly in the workflow.

[vast bane]

I use both statusEffect and Macro.ce cause you can cheese the 2 effect thing if you use them both

in overtimes

one I even use macro.cub for 3 effects

[scarlet gale]

macro.ce just needs to work better with multiple conditions

[vast bane]

have we issued that to tim?

[scarlet gale]

Pretty sure that's CE

[coarse mesa]

How deep are we talking, like Rage giving advantage on Str saves?

[scarlet gale]

not tim's module

[vast bane]

Its probably dae

[scarlet gale]

No

[scarlet gale]

It's literally CE

[vast bane]

I'm basing it on the fact that kaelad said he has no idea how to make his ATL keys do the drop downs dae does, and thought tim did it for them

[scarlet gale]

macro.ce is used to apply convent effects. Why would DAE be doing that?

[vast bane]

I dunno I'm way beyond my depth, but on a side note, has anyone checked to see if the ATL keys got the dae drop down lovin?

like detection modes in the newest dae?

[coarse mesa]

They did, but I haven't tested them myself

[vast bane]

kinda how we get a drop down for status markers

[vast bane]

no I mean it changes the effect value to a drop down

like macro.ce and status effect

[violet meadow]

nope

[vast bane]

for the detection mode keys maybe

[scarlet gale]

Just checked, it's actually not CE adding macro.ce

It is DAE

it also apparently has macro.CUB

[vast bane]

yeah I use macro.cub too

purely for a few poisons that do 3 conditions

[coarse mesa]

I'm peeping that red 'fail' in your chat log... mine isn't doing that (I must have overridden it somehow)

[vast bane]

for overtime effects cause of that stupid limitation

[scarlet gale]

I still think having a custom trait or flag on the actor is better then a list of features.

Since that would help with supporting homebrew

[violet meadow]

You will be able to create your own

[vast bane]

I kinda like how magic resistance is done

we just all need to have a uniform agreement on how to handle it

[scarlet gale]

In reality

[vast bane]

if we parse items for conditions, shame on any item with charm in its name lol

[coarse mesa]

Nope, disabled custom CSS and mine is still black, is that a custom thing you've done Bugbear?

[scarlet gale]

the 5e system needs to have a condition resistance trait

No idea why it doesn't exist already

[violet meadow]

I have to say this is not supposed to be discussed here 😅
More of a Dnd5e thingy which should be working with core and no effects with flags etc, but will be working with MidiQOL too 😄

It was just that I saw an opportunity to ask about here 😛

[scarlet gale]

This channel is hardly midi exclusive

Would be better named full automation

or something along those lines

[vast bane]

Then we'd wind up with Wire, which I don't mind honestly and the mods would prefer it too lol

[coarse mesa]

WIRE isn't full auto... yet

[vast bane]

I don't really mind the other rollers, it'd actually be good to know how the others work some

[dark canopy]

if other rollers/automation modules cause as much troubleshooting traffic as midi does, then of course we'll consider it 👍

[coarse mesa]

WIRE needs a few gurus adding premades then it'll really take off... as far as I can tell Whistler is pretty much doing everything rn

[scarlet gale]

Minor Detrimental Properties from the DMG also can give disadvantage on certain conditions too @violet meadow

If you care for also handling disadvantage

[vast bane]

instruments of the bards impose disadvantage on charm saves

[coarse mesa]

Are we talking spells too? Must be plenty of those

[vast bane]

I listed two so far

protection from poison and protection from evil and good

[scarlet gale]

Does it?

Oh wow it does

I have a player that hasn't been making use of that

[vast bane]

they have to use the instrument as their focus for the spell

[scarlet gale]

Doubt any bard wouldn't be if they had that item

[violet meadow]

So I guess if the Item has a "proper" description I can check that for some keywords and play around it.

[vast bane]

I'd rather see an array of checkboxes on the item, I know spammy, but similar to midi's lower boxes and cores upper boxes

[violet meadow]

That would be in the module's settings

[vast bane]

or a button, that opens the checkboxes window

like when you click traits

[scarlet gale]

Or just add a new type of trait

If that's possible

Unless you mean for the spell / item

[violet meadow]

I wouldn't want to override or change system behaviour if I can help it

[scarlet gale]

Isn't that what flags are generally for then?

Add a button or dialog or whatever for the item / spell to check what conditions are tied to it.

Description parsing can get messy

[violet meadow]

So for a quick reference, what I am doing now (all synchronous)

1. Getting the Item rolled from the chatMessages.
2. Check the Item type against a "database"
3. Add relevant advantage/disadvantage on the roll to be had, based on some select Items being present on the Actor that needs to make the roll.

No need for AEs, flags, asynchronous events and database interactions.

[scarlet gale]

I don't think reading a flag needs to be asynchronous.

[violet meadow]

Nope, but somehow you need to set that Flag at some point

Might be easier and will revisit at some point. But I wanted to avoid such interactions with the Actors

No specific module data on them 🤷

[scarlet gale]

If you're aiming for small module footprint I suppose

[coarse mesa]

So users could add to this database, a bit like A-A?

[violet meadow]

They should be able at some point to create their own expressions for when (dis)advantage should be applied more or less.

eg. Advantage on Attacks with Long sword against Leather Armor

[molten solar]

There is an issue for it

[vast bane]

Vow of Enmity, advantage on attacks against a status effect on an actor

[molten solar]

So you're making "babvantage".

[violet meadow]

Yeah

[vast bane]

vanilla rangers favored enemy too

wait thats more of a baboni thing

[molten solar]

Boy really saw me saying eff off on adding anything to do with advantage in bab and made a module out of spite.

Nice.

[vast bane]

Advantage Macro basically

[violet meadow]

Save me a trip down the rabbit hole and add it already

[molten solar]

Nah

But

There is a chance I can add bonuses that rely on adv or disadvantage.

Like a +1d4 bonus that applies only when rolling with advantage.

etc

Will have to wait and see how 2.2.x pans out.

[violet meadow]

Is that an actual 5e thing? 🤔
But still why not 😄

[molten solar]

I do not care if it is or isn't. I wanna make dumb shit and not worry about players forgetting or the bonuses being cumbersome. That's the point of bab.

[violet meadow]

Well I am playing around until this becomes relevant https://github.com/foundryvtt/dnd5e/issues/809

[molten solar]

It'll be years

... or you can make a PR

[scarlet gale]

That issue appears to me like it's not ever going to get touched

[keen remnant]

Quick Question, do you know of a way to make limited magic immunity work? I´m currently trying to wrap my head around that, but im a brick in syntax.

So To be specific i talk about immunity under Spell Lv xyz

[scarlet gale]

Like the spell not working?

For certain fiends and stuff

Undo button the easiest

[vast bane]

@violet meadow Nature's Ward in midi sample items would be another example of advantage conditionals.

[scarlet gale]

Along with deleting any effect it creates

[keen remnant]

Example

[vast bane]

can you make a reaction that just cancels the workflow?

[violet meadow]

Active Aura unlimited radius, creating an Actor onUse. PreItemRoll checking item to be rolled against that

[vast bane]

If you do this, make sure your setup is using very little in the way of active auras other than that or it will get messy

Active Auras is great if used sparsely

Could also make a legendary resistance like item that super saves and makes ac 999

[keen remnant]

Well that does nothing against 1/2 damage on save type spells

[vast bane]

would need magic to prevent natural 20

[keen remnant]

Can do di.all

and remove CE Effects manually

[vast bane]

the legendary resistance item makes you take nothing from a save effect

[keen remnant]

other option is auto roll counterspell

dont know how to check for spelllevel tho

[vast bane]

counterspell isn't a thing that I've seen, if you got it share it!

spell level is in the workflow

[violet meadow]

Noted. That's not dis/advantage though, but straight up success vs Charmed or Frightened from Feys or Elementals

Having said that, whatever you happen upon, share it via DMs to find them easier 😉

@vast bane In DAE 10.0.21 when it comes out

macro.createItemRunMacro behaves the same as macro.createItem, but in addition when the item is created on the actor, DAE will run the item's Item Macro with args[0] set to "onCreate", allowing you to save the uuid of the created item (passed in lastArg) somewhere for future reference.

[vast bane]

that would basically let us put what we're putting in the effect macro on the stored item's item macro?

[violet meadow]

Sounds about right

[vast bane]

I need him to let us put more than one item in one key lol

if possible

Shield your eyes if you don't like database abuse:

[violet meadow]

But why!

[keen remnant]

Wyld

[vast bane]

Lets you setup an archetype spellbook on the fly

[violet meadow]

Yeah but still this SHOULD be done with a batch createEmbeddedDocument

[vast bane]

I have a generic loadout for Tier 1, 2, 3, and 4 healers

Oh Zhell has already insisted I do that, but I suck at macros, he even gave me a template

but I suck that bad at macros

I wonder if a background item could be made to do this?

does dnd5e auto give items?

actually...npcs can't get abackgrounds right?

[violet meadow]

You can have an Item. Transfer Effect to Actor on Equip. DAE macro execute, create all linked Items on Actor

[vast bane]

can I create using the uuid?

[violet meadow]

yes

well uuid not exactly. Actually scratch that, its a uuid in the compendium.

[vast bane]

there a way to instead use the name found in a compendium just incase I delete/and add a new of a spell?

[dark canopy]

these are also the reasons your server is so laggy 😅

[vast bane]

so far its only been used once

[dark canopy]

(and the actors with hundreds of items...etc etc)

[vast bane]

I can't control the players hoarding but I agree items are getting out of hand on the players

I also have the RAM I just haven't installed it yet, its a laptop and its a project to do

[dark canopy]

just pointing it out -- it all adds up

[vast bane]

yeah I honestly have put a pause on the loadouts after a previous discussion from Zhell when he gave me the macro

but either way, I think being able to put the create items in the same key could be an improvement if possible:

[violet meadow]

You can get the Items by name from a compendium if that's what you need

[vast bane]

alot of items wind up with more than one item on attunement when using my magic item idea with it

I gota say though, I really really wish we could get an "Items with Items" module or extension of Items with Spells

[violet meadow]

You have it with the new DAE thingy

[keen remnant]

does´t Magic Items Module do exactly that

[vast bane]

MIM is very very finicky to the point of not useable with midi

Items with Spells is superior

[violet meadow]

I imagine with macro.createItemRunMacro you can have a spellbook created in an instant!

[vast bane]

I look forward to bothering you about that when it comes out!

Unfortunately I can't touch any of the new dae's till my test build shows the battlemaster not being broken in 2.1.x

[violet meadow]

When the spellbook Item gets created, the itemMacro will be executed and the rest of the spells created!

[vast bane]

the duplication of ae's is whats keepin me back

[violet meadow]

Or at least that's what I believe can happen 😅

Solved in the .21 too it seems like (not out yet)

[scarlet gale]

Duplication bug appears already fixed?

[tepid dock]

flags.midi-qol.grants.critical.range I assume this is used to increase the critical threshold of a player, but can anyone tell me what options to select or what the effect value would look like?

[spice kraken]

grants would make it so other people would have better crit chances against the source actor

Explain exactly what you're trying to do first so I try and give an accurate answer

[tepid dock]

Sure and thanks! I would like to make a feature that will give a crit threshold of 19 for 10 rounds

[spice kraken]

For what kind of attacks. Everything to everyone?

[tepid dock]

Every melee attack from the weilder of the feature to anything else

[spice kraken]

flags.midi-qol.critical.mwak | Custom | 19

[tepid dock]

Awesome! Thanks

[spice kraken]

And make the duration 10 rounds

Set it to 2 and test first

[tepid dock]

Where would check to confirm it worked? The special attributes?

[spice kraken]

Make an attack

[tepid dock]

ahh ok

Ok so it wont change here?

[spice kraken]

Definitely not

[tepid dock]

Ahhhh ok

[spice kraken]

And that would be for a permanent change

[tepid dock]

Ok so I tried this, and a 19

[spice kraken]

No

[spice kraken]

^

[spice kraken]

^

[tepid dock]

I did Grants

[spice kraken]

You don't want that

You want the feature to target self

and use the key I said

If you use grant and say put that on a goblin, everyone and their grandmother would crit on a 19

[tepid dock]

Right, yea that was my bad, I misread.

But now everything is critting

regardless of 2 or 19

[spice kraken]

Show me the effect tab of both the actor and the target

[tepid dock]

Actor

Target

[spice kraken]

Now show me the chat

[spice kraken]

Just to be safe, delete the effect on the source actor

And use 2 test actors

[tepid dock]

And test attacking again?

[spice kraken]

Yeah

On 2 completely new actors

Also don't attack with advantage

[tepid dock]

Yea removing the effect drops the constant crit, and the new test actor and test enemy are attacking normally

[spice kraken]

Ah, my bad

Wrong key
flags.dnd5e.weaponCriticalThreshold | Upgrade | 19

[tepid dock]

yeee no worries

[tepid dock]

THIS WORKED! Thanks

[sleek glacier]

Trying out midi qol first time, find it amazing...but just started and have the first problems... Bardic inspiration does dmg to my target (beyond import) and when my target attack, it has to use bardic inspiration (no choice) and when i apply it, i roll the attack with d20 too ^^

[scarlet gale]

When you say beyond import you mean you're using the ddb importer?

[sleek glacier]

True that ^^

[scarlet gale]

Check that you have the generate effects settings turned on.

If you do, I would try getting assistance on the ddb importer Discord.

As the default import for inspiration should work correctly.

[sleek glacier]

Where do you find those generate effects? In midi settings ?

[scarlet gale]

In the ddb importer settings

[sleek glacier]

Ok will try that when i'm at home... But that doesnt solve the d20 damage problem right?

[scarlet gale]

Also on the character import window too

It should? My import works fine

[sleek glacier]

Can you choose when to apply bardic inspiration ? If so theres a problem with my settings it seems

[scarlet gale]

Yep

Check with the ddb importer Discord

They can help you troubleshoot it better

[sleek glacier]

Hm yeah i think i will create a bard first without ddb, then i get i can be shure its an ddb problem

[vast bane]

if your bardic is dealing damage you have a bad item, from either using dnd5e srd or a bad importer. Or you have a roller conflict. Midiqol will see "no damage" as no damage and not deal it.

[sleek glacier]

When i use "another" bardic inspiration player gets no damage, but he still cant choose if he uses the inspiration and still rolls the damage with d20

[vast bane]

Um, why would the bardic need to be damage?

[tribal hill]

Subclass

[vast bane]

Lets back up, where are you getting the bardic inspiration item, and where are you getting the bardic inspiration automation?

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things..

[sleek glacier]

Under features from character sheet...it seems the importet spell uses the 1d6 as damage against the target player

[vast bane]

imported, so this sounds like ddb importer, what is the subclass

[sleek glacier]

No subclass yet, level 2 bard...

[vast bane]

ok I'm lost here, you have said that the bardic inspiration should be adding damage

what in bardic does this cause thats not rules as written

[sleek glacier]

I have none of these mods, not sure about advanced spell effects

[vast bane]

bardic adds a dice roll on top of d20's either an attack, ability check, or save

the bardic from midi sample items deals "no damage" damage and should not be applying unles you have module conflicts or are not using the sample item

[sleek glacier]

Yeah but it rolls hit and damage with d20, do i have to use bardic inspiration from midi? 🤔

[vast bane]

can you show me this

show me chat

do you just mean that you have midi's full auto on and are just including bardic as a side comment?

This is the midi sample item on the starter bard hero with my own midi settings:

when someone has bardic buff on them, they are always prompted if they want to use it on their d20 rolls

did you accidentally drag out the valor bard bardic?

if your bard is not a valor bard, you should not be using the valor bard bardic

(which adds to damage)

If doing this doesn't fix it, then I need to see what your bardic looks like in chat

[sleek glacier]

I'm at work now sorry, cant show, no valor bard but like in your screen (lower part) 2 times d20 roll

[vast bane]

the first roll is a roll, and what you had rolled, the second is a fake roll adding the bardic onto it.

Valor bardic does the same but adds to damage

[sleek glacier]

The point is, mine are both rolled with d20... Will get you some screensjots when im at home

[vast bane]

sounds like a bad import

[sleek glacier]

Thanks for your help btw, can you show me how you choose if he applies the d6? Or isn't this even possible?

[vast bane]

every d20 roll prompts you with this:

While you have the bardic buff on you

(if you are using the right bardic item in midi sample items)

[sleek glacier]

And if you dont wanna it to apply you click x?

[violet meadow]

Ah probably missed something as I was away 😶‍🌫️

I was sure that I saw something about that and .21 version 🤷

[vast bane]

I think there was more than one duplication bug

there was definitely still one in 19

[violet meadow]

.20 should have squashed them

[fathom socket]

can i use the actors max health as a variable in an active effects Effect Value?

[vast bane]

I think you can by replacing the system with @

Similar to how I do this:

you would obviously need DAE to do this

you can find the path by selecting an actor on the canvas and typing _token.actor

[fathom socket]

uh nice that helped thank you

[sleek glacier]

@vast banethis is the problem i think... will report it on dndimporter discord... strange thing is, even after i reimport it (deleted char, made a new import) it still remains the same

[vast bane]

I don't understand why you are importing it, and that doesn't matter, you don't click that

you are in the midiqol channel, so that means you have midi, go to the compendium tab, and drag out bardic inspiration from the compendium "Midi Sample Items"

[sleek glacier]

i just importet the whole charakter from beyond ... ^^ copy and paste link from beyond website... strange thing is, in midi sample items there is no bardic inspiration without valor O_O

[dark canopy]

that is showing because there is a damage formula in the item

[vast bane]

delete it and go get the sample items

its 1d6[no damage] and likely the same as the srd bardic right?

[sleek glacier]

in the srd bardic there is no 1d6 dmg in the red circle 😄

[vast bane]

If you are a midi user please find this compendium, it has the best bardic inspiration:

You will want to do this with honestly, the majority of your imports

[sleek glacier]

oh got it wrong... there is... bardic inspiration DND2.0.2 MQ10.0.10 ^^

is that the right one?

[vast bane]

yes delete the old one too

Now you are home, heres the list:

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

[sleek glacier]

have none of those... but with midi bardic the first part works, no damage for my rogue ^^

[vast bane]

Bardic has nothing to do with damage

[sleek glacier]

but if my rogue attacks i get this... delete shortsword too?

[vast bane]

You missed

(with a natural 1)

[sleek glacier]

shure but notice the lower part ^^

[vast bane]

that is your bardic

you put a bardic on a natural 1

you rolled a 1, plus 3 and plus 2, and you rolled a 1 in the bardic

for a total of 7, and no matter what the ac is, a natural 1 misses

[sleek glacier]

so all 3 are hit rolls?

[vast bane]

The whispered rolls are showing you the before and after bardic

yes

[sleek glacier]

oh...

allright pretty new to foundry sorry i wasted your time but i got a lot smarter 😄 thanks very much case closed 😄

[vast bane]

no problem, it looks like your importer settings are set to vanilla, you likely won't want to use them much. Midi SRD and midi sample items will have more accurate items, the vanilla items have suspended effects that will break midi

[sleek glacier]

how can i adjust them to ... non vanilla? 😄

[vast bane]

I don't use the importer. But usually midi users use Midi srd, dfreds CE, and midi sample items as well as a bunch of premades people share here

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

[sleek glacier]

i was just saying, i got no midi SRD Compendium 😄

[vast bane]

the link here you have to manually install in the manual field at the bottom of the addons menu

[sleek glacier]

but will get it there...

[vast bane]

macros are gonna be a lil rough to learn how to setup

Specially as a new user

but all the premade items from midi samples and srd you will have to do them like you just did bardic

delete the default, and drag out the special one

Mr.Primates ddb importer should do that somewhat for most items if you got the right settings but I don't use it so I don't know how to help you

[sleek glacier]

hmm so i will just have to test it and if some spells/items behave strange, swap it out at least

[vast bane]

most spells will just be spell cards and maybe a simple damage roll

unless you utilize the compendiums

[velvet raptor]

@vast bane so the MASIF is what I want I would presume? 😅

[vast bane]

nope

midi does that out of the box

set the save on the item

then click the wrench at the top of the item and add a condition

for a simple one

also check the box I showed here

"Activation condition true required for efect activation"

MASIF is for premade items though

[vast bane]

I think you should say what you wanna make before you go make it from scratch, it may already exist somewhere

[velvet raptor]

For now, I just wanna automate sapping sting and it throwing the enemy prone if they fail.

[vast bane]

set the save on the item, check the box, click the wrench, change NEW in the drop down to Prone and click +

dfreds CE setup properly makes alot of condition shenanigans simpler btw

[velvet raptor]

I mean it adds the prone condition to the token, but it doesnt recognize it as the prone condition? I guess?

[vast bane]

heh, I don't actually see a problem with that to be honest

You could make it a toggle, but then it'd be wieird where your hit picks them up

You could put an activation condition in, but ultimately a singular attempt to remove prone, will remove all of them so it doesn't really matter

did you really attack 4 times or is this the duplication bug I was told is fixed?

[velvet raptor]

The problem is that that makes it kind of clunky to remove. Go into the sheet and delete or toggle by hand there vs just toggling the condition in the token menu.

[velvet raptor]

4 fails and each applied prone

[violet meadow]

It the Prone condition added on the actor, created by a module?

[velvet raptor]

That would be DAE in this case.

[violet meadow]

No I mean do you have DFreds CE or CUB?

[velvet raptor]

Dont have DFreds and am not sure what CUB is.

[violet meadow]

Combat Utility Belt

[velvet raptor]

neither

[vast bane]

@violet meadow actually statuseffect does it too

since when is the wrench messed up wtf?

if you click prone in the wrench you get that mess hes got

if you make the prone manually with statusEffect, macro.ce, or macro.cub, it doesn't cause what he has

[velvet raptor]

Si senor.

[vast bane]

you should install dfreds CE and set it up to replace core status markers

your a midi user, you want fancy conditions with automation

[velvet raptor]

ok

[vast bane]

but that wrench is broken imo

[velvet raptor]

it wasnt me, i swear. 😄

[vast bane]

It should use the 3 keys, not the whole prone

[violet meadow]

Yeah the DAE dropdown menu probably is creating a "different" effect

[vast bane]

I don't see a point in using the wrench shortcuts if they break like that

[violet meadow]

Sounds like a bug 🤔

[vast bane]

Hes probably on the newest, I'm on 14

so its been around a while

[keen remnant]

@violet meadow Do you know what the workflow would be if you want to only have a spell effect apply if the spell cast on you is level 6 and up?

[vast bane]

Is this ok?

[violet meadow]

Make it name

[vast bane]

this could be whats causing it I dunno what these do ever lol

[violet meadow]

There isn't an origin when you create it manually so that's the issue probably

[violet meadow]

🤔

[keen remnant]

This does negate effectstacking if two effects are made by the same item/feature

[vast bane]

Yeah this is a dfreds typo/bug not even midi

name fixes it

[violet meadow]

I always forget that. I think Name should be the default but not sure of what/if anything else fails with that

[vast bane]

to be fair, dfred vanilla is a toggle system so he prolly didn't realize it

I think I'm gonna just write an issue on his git

[vast bane]

did you get situated with dfreds CE?

[violet meadow]

Is that against a specific target only?
I would do that in a World Script. Try this```js
Hooks.on("midi-qol.preTargeting", (workflow) => {
const itemNameToCheck = "Lesser Magic Immunity";
if (workflow.item.type !== "spell" || workflow.item.system.level >= 6 || !workflow.targets.some(t=>t.actor.items.getName(itemNameToCheck))) return;
else {
//ui.notifications.warn("The spell fails to affect some of the initial targets")
return game.user.updateTokenTargets(workflow.targets.filter(t=>!t.actor.items.getName(itemNameToCheck)).map(t=>t.id))
}
})

oh wait

I didn't make the whole thing...

Do you have a specific Target in mind?

[keen remnant]

It´s magic immunity for the creature bearing the trait.

[violet meadow]

Name of the Trait?

[keen remnant]

I mean i can make it Any but "Lesser Magic Immunity" currently

[vast bane]

Theres a cat with this ability

I forget its name

[keen remnant]

funny the creature is a cat, bruhh

[violet meadow]

Try the edited one quickly @keen remnant

[keen remnant]

ye sec

[violet meadow]

another edit

ffs...

I think now 🤞

[vast bane]

Its gonna mess up aoe spells

[violet meadow]

Should just untarget them 🤷

[vast bane]

oooh ok

[violet meadow]

Not sure about the timing in the workflow, but that is the quick test for 😄

[keen remnant]

Welp it does skip through Lres and just gives a save now xD

didnt work, also quick question if i set it up wrong

how is it supposed to work, yoursided

[violet meadow]

Split sec

[keen remnant]

sure

[violet meadow]

Get the edited once more. Open console and paste it in. Hit enter

Actually reload before doing that

This is meant as a World SCript

[keen remnant]

by F12 Console? ok

ye

[violet meadow]

yes

[velvet raptor]

Had to shop before everything closes but taking a look, this is prolly what I want, right?

[keen remnant]

let me realod

[vast bane]

Yeah that needs to be replace

[vast bane]

if you want that wrench to work as we all thought it would, you need to edit the default dfreds conditions and change the drop down on the first tab to by name instead of source

[violet meadow]

seems good

[keen remnant]

LEts Try

[vast bane]

you can put that hook in worldscripter module

[violet meadow]

Yeah, after we confirm working order. I cannot test it now.

[keen remnant]

Welp, not realy

Was at first level

[violet meadow]

It the Item called "Lesser Magic Immunity" case sensitive?

[violet meadow]

OK I will test in a bit

[velvet raptor]

I read it like 5 times now but I fear I dont get it. 😅

[vast bane]

If you want the quick condition adds from the wrench button to work as we want them to where they don't stack, you need to right click all the conditions in dfreds CE's window and duplicate them as custom

[whole cobalt]

I trying to activate a reaction on the damage type of the attack. Can someone help me with what this should be.

[keen remnant]

"Reaction on damaged" most likely?

[vast bane]

Then find them in the custom folder, edit it, and in the first tab change this drop down to by name instead of origin

[vast bane]

reactions are not that specific

you can set the reaction to reaction or reaction damaged and it will prompt in every attack against that actor

[whole cobalt]

OK a condition would be nice.

[vast bane]

I don't really know what you are saying

[velvet raptor]

Where would I find this windows? Was looking in the settings and the compendium. 😅

[velvet raptor]

oh.

[vast bane]

anytime you change a status markers settings, you need a full reboot of your browser or app

you can do the changes all at once and reboot after toofwiw

[keen remnant]

Recently made two new Status Effects, one makes you not heal until a heal-spell or potion is consumed and the other is basically breaks casting capability condition, aka all casted spells by the creature autofail.

[violet meadow]

@keen remnant ```js
Hooks.on("midi-qol.preTargeting", (workflow) => {
const itemNameToCheck = "Lesser Magic Immunity";
if (workflow.item.type !== "spell" || workflow.item.system.level >= 6 || !workflow.targets.some(t=>t.actor.items.getName(itemNameToCheck))) return;
else {
//ui.notifications.warn("The spell fails to affect some of the initial targets")
return game.user.updateTokenTargets(workflow.targets.filter(t=>!t.actor.items.getName(itemNameToCheck)).map(t=>t.id))
}
})

[keen remnant]

Is the old one doing anything, to mess with it?

[violet meadow]

If you want the warning remove the //

reload to yeet the old one

[keen remnant]

no error

nope, idk why

now when the creature fails it prompts me to Lres, and another Lres window

[violet meadow]

Is the creature an unlinked token and have you changed the name of the Item/Feature only on the sidebar maybe?

[keen remnant]

? sry cant follow

[violet meadow]

Is the Madison Occulti a linked or unlinked token?

[keen remnant]

you tell me

[violet meadow]

The checkbox underneath is the one we need 😄

[keen remnant]

unlinked i guess

aka not checked

[violet meadow]

OK so the token on the canvas, does it have the Item? The Lesser Magic Immunity one?>

[keen remnant]

yes

[violet meadow]

OK do you cast the spell from the same client that you ran the script in its console?

[keen remnant]

yes

all same client

[violet meadow]

Is Bane the Item from the Spells (SRD) compendium?

[keen remnant]

Think so

[velvet raptor]

Cant seem to get it to work...

[keen remnant]

Replaced most with the MIDI versions (wherever possible/available)

Including Bane

yeah

Reload

paste

tried

can do it again @violet meadow

[celest bluff]

It doesn't work the way you think this does.. It meant for when applying active effects via DAE. When clicking through the conditions buttons it will always apply it

[dull sinew]

Guys, if I configure an AE without a duration, it's normal it last only for 1 turn?

[keen remnant]

depends on the applying effect

fireball is instant so if it applied AE they dont last

based on the Duration set beforehand and the Base time set in the AE

[dull sinew]

It's a AE that I am creating

And the AE don't have a duration

[keen remnant]

tied to nothing with no time indicator

[dull sinew]

exactly

[keen remnant]

that should stay unless otherwise removed

[dull sinew]

well, it's not

[keen remnant]

any special durations set?

[dull sinew]

it last only 1 turn

[dull sinew]

no

nothing

nada

zero

[keen remnant]

How long is it supposed to last by default?

[celest bluff]

No duration should be a passive

[keen remnant]

Then set a passive effect (with an item or Feature)

not a AE

[dull sinew]

It's just this

[keen remnant]

AC Bonus?

[celest bluff]

If it's a temporary effect, set a duration

[dull sinew]

Don't have a duration

[keen remnant]

then set -1? in duration

[dull sinew]

It last until the player wants do last

[celest bluff]

Then make sure to set to transfer equipped checked

[keen remnant]

Just make an item with flat +2 ac

and make it equipbased

[dull sinew]

It's an ability, not a item

[keen remnant]

yes

[dull sinew]

They rolled and then the effect stays as long as they want

[celest bluff]

I also wouldn't suggest making ac bonus ae, they tend to slow down interactions with that actor

[dull sinew]

The point is: it's normal the effect last only 1 turn when there's nothing set on duration?

[dark canopy]

🤔 but ac.bonus is exactly for AEs to give ac bonuses...

[dull sinew]

I mean, the normal would be that the effect last "forever", right?

[dull sinew]

yeah...

[dull sinew]

Like what?

[celest bluff]

It does have to calculate everything each time an attack is made. Just saying

[vast bane]

you didn't refresh your client did you?

[dark canopy]

AC is prepped in derived data and unless the actor data is modified, its static

[vast bane]

#1010273821401555087 message

[dark canopy]

now, yes, if you use AEs for anything and everything, eventually, things will slow down -- but ac bonuses are well suited for AEs

[dull sinew]

I never have problems with that and I alwals use ac.bonus

[vast bane]

You should refresh your client and probably redo the wrench steps to get a new prone on the item. Just incase though I don't think that matters.

[celest bluff]

I would define the turn info in the Dae config. When should it expire? You can also use times up to set an expiry

[dull sinew]

Thats the point! It doesn't expire!

Let me explain again

[vast bane]

just put a value in force show and call it a day ignore the duration tab completely

[dull sinew]

1- There's an ability of a player that it roll to give +2 AC bonus to a allied who is 5 ft from him. Until it stays 5 ft of that allied, the AC bonus will stay.
2- The player will roll the ability to the allied and the bonus will applied and only expire when the player stays more than 5 ft from the allied.

[vast bane]

that forces it to be a passive temporary

[dull sinew]

Nope, it last only 1 turn

[celest bluff]

Aura, then yeah set no duration.

[vast bane]

you must have a duration set in details

[dull sinew]

i didn't use Aura

[celest bluff]

But you won't get an icon unless set to override it

[dull sinew]

it's not configure

[vast bane]

show me the item details

[celest bluff]

that reads like an aura

[vast bane]

every single dfreds CE utilizes this, so it can't not work

[dull sinew]

there's nothing

[vast bane]

wrong duration

[dull sinew]

It's not an aura!

[dull sinew]

There's no duration!

[celest bluff]

Unless you activate it to give each player the bonus once then it set for 1 minute

[dull sinew]

I think you guys didn't understand...

There is NO duration

[vast bane]

can you show me the items details please

[dull sinew]

The bonus will stay like, forever

[vast bane]

thats what you want right?

[celest bluff]

Then set no duration, it'll be a permanent passive

[dull sinew]

It's in portuguese

[vast bane]

you have a duration set

it won't be forever if you set a duration

[dull sinew]

Thats the problem... it doesn't!

[vast bane]

yes it does, DAE takes the items duration and applies it to the effects duration

[dull sinew]

But i didn't set a duration...

[vast bane]

its right there in your image lol

[dull sinew]

what?

[celest bluff]

Then set the duration 100 days or whatever

[vast bane]

clear "instantaneous"

[dull sinew]

it never does that before

[celest bluff]

Yeah instant get rid of it

[vast bane]

DAE will take what you have there and apply it to the ae

[dull sinew]

Jesus Christ... it's exactly that...

[vast bane]

its actually a really good QOL feature, but it got in your way

[celest bluff]

Don't use instant

[vast bane]

if you want a forever AE to show as a buff icon, the clip I showed above for FORCE SHOW just needs something in it

[dull sinew]

If I have an duration set on AE and a different one in item, what happens?

[dull sinew]

yes, thank you!

[violet meadow]

Fireball in instant. Bonus of 1 turn is not instant

[vast bane]

what would be the point of the duration on the item if not for an ae?

Also I'm pretty sure a manual duration in the ae is taken precident

but don't quote me on that

[dull sinew]

To be more easy for players to look at the item/feature and see how long it last?

[vast bane]

I honestly can't think of any case where a player will try to say that his fireball happens every turn forever if the instant isn't there

Unless you host for lawyers 😉

[dull sinew]

If you pick a player that never playes RPG?

[vast bane]

then just tell em why

[dull sinew]

That only wants to learn?

[celest bluff]

Dunno if it's still the case, instant will add an icon on those affected by templates

[vast bane]

but also can you come up with that use case?

I can't

[dull sinew]

Yes

[vast bane]

or do what cyrmic said and add a 999999 duration to it

[dull sinew]

I am in a table with 2 people who never played RPG

[violet meadow]

If you have the template removal for AEs on at least it will create one on the caster

[dull sinew]

They know nothing about it

[vast bane]

Good you get to mold two fresh minds

[dull sinew]

And if they read a thing, they will assume that thing is that thing they read

Whatever, the problem was solved because of you guys

Thanks

[vast bane]

we can't account for every single interaction with a new player or experienced player, if you want the item to behave accurately I guess you could turn off midi and go play full manual then you can manage the durations that way

[dull sinew]

I learn a little more today

[vast bane]

but I'm pretty sure you can set a duration of 999999 on an instant effect

Hell I just did that actually

the force show should bypass dae's duration thing, it does in my world

[celest bluff]

DAE used to apply icons for any targeted items if instant was define as the duration. Was pretty annoying.

[celest bluff]

So you'd end up with weapon icons on targets. Bunch of stuff in the SRD or d&d beyond importer used to bring items with it predefined.

[vast bane]

If the effects duration is more than the items, the higher takes precident

[opaque patrol]

I've got a feature that uses a DAE transfer-on-equip effect with an ItemMacro (the purpose is Heated Body on a Salamander that will apply damage to melee attackers via a hook). When I put this feature on an NPC, I find I have to disable/re-enable the effect on each unlinked token to get the macro to apply. Am I correct in guessing the feature applied the initial effect to the prototype token and is just copying the state to each instance? If so, what is the recommended way to do this kind of thing?

[violet meadow]

Is that a DAE for flags.midi-qol.onUseMacroName

[opaque patrol]

No, just macro.ItemMacro

[violet meadow]

Ah hmm I imagine that you need to do that once per instance. The Hook needs to be registered

[vast bane]

you could make it a free reaction

[violet meadow]

I would create a World Script and make it so that when a target with that Feature is damaged, the attacker is getting damaged

No need creating a DAE on each token etc

[opaque patrol]

I have my own custom module so that is doable

[violet meadow]

yeah or a World Script should suffice 🤷

But this is what I am doing more or less. eg Fire Shield, Heated Body etc

Have a world script testing if the target has specific Items and dealing reactive damage to attackers

[opaque patrol]

Seems like good advice to get this out of DAE. I'll be doing it in my module but same difference. Thanks.

[violet meadow]

Out of DAE, but still utilizing MidiQOL hooks so as to be sure they are async, as this might matter when using ApplyTokenDamage or other async functions 🤷

[opaque patrol]

👍

[earnest loom]

Does someone has a working Sanctuary spell example I could copy from ?

[vast bane]

Do you fast forward?

[earnest loom]

What do you mean ?

[vast bane]

Do you see these popouts when you attack?

aka fast forward

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Spells/Sanctuary/Chris-SanctuaryWorld.js

Worldscript. Use the worldscripter module for easy installation.

[earnest loom]

No I don't. they are being rolled automatically

[vast bane]

then chris' method is the way to go

[earnest loom]

So this a macro that would be activated from the Cleric macro bar ?

[scarlet gale]

Add as a world script, I personally use world scripter (a module) to do this.

[vast bane]

World scripts can be made into a macro and dragged to world scripter modules compendium

[idle stag]

Does anyone know is it possible to count Spell Sniper feat using Simbuls Cover Calculator and Midi Calculate Cover section?

[earnest loom]

Will check it out Thanks

[vast bane]

spell sniper has a key in midi

[earnest loom]

I have used a few of your stuff. Thanks a lot. Also thanks to this wonderful community 🙂 🙌

[vast bane]

Actually its core, before Zhell comes and yells at me:

[idle stag]

kind of hotkey you mean?

[vast bane]

This kind

boolean effect value

0 no, 1 yes

this probably means its in special traits

don't use an ae for this, just check the box

special traits are in the front tab of the sheet, I have an enhanced image of it:

[idle stag]

Sorry I don't understand where to look for.. Can you give a hint please

[scarlet gale]

On the character sheet just check the special trait called Spell Sniper.

[scarlet gale]

@vast bane You have a player with Death Ward right?

Death Ward was surprisingly easy to setup as a world script: https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Spells/Death Ward/Chris-DeathWardWorld.js

This will only catch automatic damage application from midi. But 99% of the time that should be fine.

[earnest loom]

Sorry Chris, I'm still having issues with the Sanctuary, once I have the Macro/world script setup, should I reference it somewhere in the spell item ?

[scarlet gale]

Just make sure the spell applies DAE with nothing in it

Also after you add a script to the world scripter compendium you need to reload your page for it to take effect.

[earnest loom]

Awesome, it works. So world script are like Macros that are running in the background by default, waiting for a condition to be satisfied ?

[scarlet gale]

It's functionally identical to how modules work. Its listens on the specified hook.

In this case I have it listening on a specific midi hook.

[violet meadow]

Doing something similar for Relentless Endurance with core Hooks

    case "gnome": //should discount Autognome from AAG.
        return [{description: "Gnome Cunning", modifier: "advantage", rollType: "save", abilities: [CONFIG.DND5E.abilityAbbreviations.cha, CONFIG.DND5E.abilityAbbreviations.int, CONFIG.DND5E.abilityAbbreviations.wis], versus: ["spells"]}];
    case "half-orc":
        return [{description: "Relentless Endurance", modifier: "1", rollType: "damaged", versus: ["all"]}];

So many cases

[scarlet gale]

My next task is trying to think of a clever way to setup a ring of spell storing. I have a pretty good idea how I want to make it work but I can't figure out how to handle upcasted spells. Since I think atwill / innate spells are always cast at their lowest levels.

I suppose I can add a small item macro to the saved spell to change the cast level on use?

[scarlet gale]

You trying to cut out midi or something?

[violet meadow]

Nope. But to give core roller some luv 😄

[violet meadow]

So the issue is the recasting?

[scarlet gale]

My current plan is to have a dialogue have you select the spell then it'll remove the spell slot and re-create the spell as a one use spell.

[violet meadow]

I don't exactly remember how it works. Stores the spell at whatever level it was cast and release when needed?

[scarlet gale]

Yea

I can copy the spell easily enough, but forcing it to be cast at a specific level while also being a innate or at will spell is the tricky part.

Since I plan on making it a use once then get deleted spell.

Does one of the early midi on use things allow you to change the cast level?

Then it's just a matter adding my own item macro to the spell to switch the spell level on use.

[violet meadow]

Interesting!

[vast bane]

you can edit the spells base level in a macro

[scarlet gale]

But then the scaling would go from the new base level?

I need it to think it's upcasted I think

[violet meadow]

Too many Aperol Spritzs to think clearly, but let's see 🤔

[scarlet gale]

I feel like I can place a new flag on the spell then add a on use macro to it that calls a world macro to read the flag and change it to be upcast.

Currently messing with that now

[violet meadow]

Store the initial level cast from the castData in a flag.

Hooks.on("dnd5e.preUseItem", (item,config,options) => {
   //make sure that the item is correct and lets say you have a flag on the item with the original castLevel.
   config.needsConfiguration = false;
   options.configureDialog = false;
   config.consumeSpellLevel = item.getFlag('world','originalCastLevel');
   config.consumeSpellSlot = false;
})

Might work 🤷

yeah works for upcasting with MidiQOL

[violet meadow]

Also I covet that Utilize Item Hooks button in the MidiQOL settings 👀
I wonder what it could do at some point

Here we go

12th level Fireball 😄

[scarlet gale]

nice

[violet meadow]

Dnd5e Hooks ❤️

[sudden crane]

By the way, you can do the same thing in the preItemRoll on use macro of midi, the config can be referenced in workflow.config and options in workflow.options

[scarlet gale]

That may be the route I go. Hooks are nice, but doing it directly in the preItemRoll seems less prone to break.

[molten solar]

setProperty is a bit overkill, it's really just if you want to nest deeper

[violet meadow]

I know. I like the structure so as to remember things

[molten solar]

mergeObject then 🙂

[violet meadow]

Dont remind me. I have to refactor everything

[molten solar]

One full refactor per update, them's the rules

[robust vault]

heyy zhell, do you know how roll group and bab can interfere with midi?

I don't abuse both, but they seem to work very friendly with midi.

maybe, roll group might encounter a problem if you go by fast foward damage....

with the current configuration I have, they behave quite friendly.... I use fast foward only for attack rolls. 🙂

[coarse mesa]

Interesting.... you mean we can have the best of both worlds?

[robust vault]

I have the trident working perfectly (midi, roll group and bab)

I have several items, feats using bab, and some weapons using roll group.

only fast fowarding attack rolls.....

but it goes like a charm

as GM, with midi I have automated npc damage.... and we use fast foward on attack rolls only.... otherwise bab and roll group behave as expected

[vast bane]

Why are you using two rollers?

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit
Multiattack 5e

Advanced Spell Effects module is in beta in v10 and often the culprit of things...

[coarse mesa]

What they're saying is, it does seem to work ok with RG

I would assume so you can choose from a bunch of different damage rolls on one attack, even if you're using midi?

@robust vault can you show us a screen shot of the chat card for the RG attack you're using?

[robust vault]

I use midi for all the advantages it has, and group roll because it gives me the ability to roll damage separately, which I can't currently do with midi.....

imagine a weapon that in certain conditions does extra damage.... you don't want midi to automatically roll that damage.... this is where group roll comes in.

[vast bane]

you can do that with midi though 0_o

[robust vault]

sure

[coarse mesa]

to a degree... RG will let you have seven different damage rolls if you want

[vast bane]

hol up though, I'm with you here, when you roll damage, is it midi?

cause I don't fast forward and being able to use RG would be pretty cool I think

is it midi in all options, or only in the main damage button?

does it trigger reactions?

[coarse mesa]

and does it still apply AEs, if it should

[vast bane]

I wanna see an alternate damage workflow

cause arguably its the damage end you want midi working on

Effect transferral is kinda important

Can we see a damage workflow with a secondary formula?

[coarse mesa]

a merge card with two different damage buttons 😲

[robust vault]

yep...

[vast bane]

Lets see the workflow of the damage?

I don't see check hits

I suspect shennanigans

[robust vault]

when you fire both damages, they are automatically applied.... in my case to npc only

[vast bane]

why would you fire both?

[coarse mesa]

we may have been living a lie.... unless something recent has made it start working?

[vast bane]

I still don't see what its doing that midi doesn't already do

[coarse mesa]

(until Z finds a way to prevent it)

[robust vault]

depends on the condition, sometimes want to roll one, or both

[vast bane]

that sounds like holding down V

is the poison damage if they fail a save?

and why aren't you showing the damage workflow lol?

[molten solar]

(I don't actively monitor this thread.)

[coarse mesa]

If it works, that could be great... just have a bunch of different buttons for things that have lots of damage options (eg. chromatic orb)

I know there are other ways but this would be simpler

[robust vault]

yep.... the saving throw obviously does not jump to chat....

[vast bane]

Yeah I'd love to see its take on chromatic orb but I also wanna see it work with all of midi's features like check hits and damage application

Why would you use RG then, if midi automates that?

If you put the poison damage in the other formula, then midi automates the save and then fires the poison damage

[molten solar]

RG just does some tomfoolery, and then rolls damage with a slightly modified version of the original item in memory

[vast bane]

have you setup chromatic orb with RG and midi yet?

That'd be a great use case test

[molten solar]

It all results in the core system rollDamage method

[vast bane]

I'll try it when I go to fiddle with dae 21 later this week

I suspect its not actually handling midi's di/dv/dr and such

[molten solar]

Couldn't tell you. Uses core method. All I know.

Like, it's not "similar" or "close enough" or "manually constructed to be identical but not mechanically calling all the same stuff in the system"

It literally rolls damage.

[coarse mesa]

midi might be none the wiser

[molten solar]

So if it doesn't work, that is of course on midi. 😎

[robust vault]

the workflow dmg

[coarse mesa]

look at that! midi and RG living in harmony

[molten solar]

(I can't read Midian, what does it say?)

[robust vault]

in this case there is a problem, the saving throw should only occur when the poison damage is done. Well, you can probably handle this manually.

[vast bane]

its not though, its two damage instances to do something that midi does in one automatically

[coarse mesa]

it is working though

it's just not the midi-optimal way to do it

[vast bane]

no its not lol, that is the exact reason why we said no mre or rg

[violet meadow]

Oh now I do wonder 🤔

[vast bane]

it breaks the damage up and breaks the workflow

[robust vault]

yep, the only problem comes if you want a save with only one dmg

[molten solar]

RG isn't supposed to let you roll two things. It's supposed to let you choose what you wanna roll between any arbitrary number of things.

[vast bane]

So it could be used for Chromatic orb

[molten solar]

Like, I dunno. Versatile - but you have 5 different dice.

[vast bane]

cause the secondary formulas fire a midi workflow

[coarse mesa]

RG is like Versatile+

[vast bane]

exactly

so basically in a midi build it'd be an easy way to do chromatic orb. But thats already offered for free by automation modules/macros

[robust vault]

i can roll between 2 different dmg

[vast bane]

thats what V is for in midi

[robust vault]

one, or both

[molten solar]

or the other, then the first.

[vast bane]

Other is hijacked by midi

[coarse mesa]

it's just good to know the option is there... thanks @robust vault

[robust vault]

it is true that when there is a saving throw is fired in either of the 2 dmg.... I can't choose where to fire.

[molten solar]

or the third, the first, then the second, fourth, then fifth, and seventh, seventh, seventh, seventh, seventh--

[vast bane]

maybe also the drake warden companion

and absorb elements but absorb is a midi sample item

but having so many broken up workflow damages would kill concentration automation

[robust vault]

no fast foward dmg

[coarse mesa]

we don't FF damage anyway

[robust vault]

you can go fast fowarding but only attack rolls

[molten solar]

(as for bab, it's compatible with midi, but the optional bonuses will not work if you have removed the attack/damage/throw roll configs)

[vast bane]

I just don't see a use case.

[molten solar]

Don't need to.

[vast bane]

I'm keeping it on the list

[robust vault]

with concentration there may be a problem, certainly...

[coarse mesa]

if you had a scribes wizard it would be very handy

[violet meadow]

For a less automated workflow it might be a good combo

[vast bane]

but your example is automatic in midi if you'd just turn off rg

[molten solar]

You obviously don't have to install it, Moto. Neither do you Lukas, you have enough mo-- oh there he goes.

[vast bane]

The debate was whether it belonged on the list

[violet meadow]

I won't. I hear you Zhell. I SEE you

[robust vault]

if you don't automate concentration, it can be a super combo.

[violet meadow]

Put concentration notifier then in the mix 😅

[vast bane]

Does it even transfer effects?

[molten solar]

Not made to be compatible. Likely won't even consider PRs for compatibility. Any compatibility is a coincidence, as the module page says. Keep it on the list. 🙂

[vast bane]

and does it transfer the effects for each damage

[coarse mesa]

Moto keeps that list on Ctrl-V... he fired it off earlier at the slightest hint of RG

I'm hoping core will find a way to work compat warnings into the module installer but not holding my breath

(the installer is getting an overhaul in v11)

[violet meadow]

Module management+ does offer some infrastructure for that in the meantime

[vast bane]

I also now have this one on copy/paste:

Sources of premade stuff for Midiqol:

Midi Sample Items Compendium(comes with the module)

Midi SRD's compendiums
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

More Automated Spells Items and Features compendiums
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/more-automated-spells-items-and-feats

Mr.Primates premade macros:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/tree/main/macros

Chris' Premade macros:
https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros

[coarse mesa]

Yeah but no one uses it except MM+ lol

[molten solar]

... add some <> to that copy pasta

[vast bane]

will that get rid of the thingies that I have to x

[molten solar]

Yes

[vast bane]

around each url?

[molten solar]

Yes

[robust vault]

solved the saving throw issue, just put in the item field chat message flavor the warning

[scarlet gale]

I do...

[robust vault]

now the workflow works... and no problem with the save.... do manually

[violet meadow]

I think Lukas meant other nmodules don't interact with that infrastructure 🤷‍♂️

[scarlet gale]

Ah

[coarse mesa]

For a second there I thought Chris was making modules

[violet meadow]

Or at least not enough

[scarlet gale]

If it wasn't for making non-srd stuff I would throw my stuff into a module

[coarse mesa]

I like the term nodules

[violet meadow]

(another note in the to-do list)

[vast bane]

They haven't slapped MASIF yet and hes got the whole battlemaster subclass made(no descriptions)

[molten solar]

Yeah I don't see any reason you can't publish a script for something non-SRD.

Kandashi has done that, automated all wizard classes, right?

[violet meadow]

Don't use specific text

He had yeah. As a premium module not listed I think

[molten solar]

Yeah, just use the name and give setup instructions.

[vast bane]

Yeah MASIF uses the description as a setup instructions window only

[scarlet gale]

Guess I'll have to look into it some time

[vast bane]

No pressure

[scarlet gale]

The module requirements will be a mile long. Since I pretty heavily lean on Midi, DAE, Warpgate, Effect Macros, and Template Macros.

Wouldn't need to worry about world scripter at least, since that would just be handled in the module instead.

Making progress. I'm overcomplicating it a bit by storing the spell data on the ring as well so the item can be transferred between actors and keep the stored spells.

[scarlet gale]

Where can I find what can be set for config?

Like what else exists beyond "consumeSpellLevel"

[molten solar]

https://github.com/foundryvtt/dnd5e/blob/master/module/documents/item.mjs#L801

Using the console to log the hook will also show this

[violet meadow]

Yeah logging the (...args) of the Hook is my go to

[dark canopy]

get at it with the debugger 😏

[coarse mesa]

They give you the ability to customise colors in Tidy5E and this is what happens......

[scarlet gale]

Default colors. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coarse mesa]

OK you're off the hook... I did ask for a transparency option on those colors and they obliged (maybe I'm partly to blame for the defaults being mangled 🤏 )

[sleek pulsar]

I have a ring of spell storing in my treasure list for an upcoming encounter. I hope you get this working! 🙂

[scarlet gale]

I'm wrapping it up right now. Currently working on a way to remove the added spells after they've been cast, but not until the concentration is over (if it has it).

Anyone know if Midi doesn't like it when you delete a spell but still have a target with an effect referencing it's uuid out in the field?

Trying to decide if I should push off deleting used spells until the next rest, or if it's safe to yeet it after being used.

[spice kraken]

Was I @'d here?

[violet meadow]

briefly. someone posted and deleted

[violet meadow]

not sure. I don't think that this would break anything

Sounds like another effect with the same name but another origin would double up at most 😅

[spice kraken]

🤔

[coarse mesa]

Thought better of it

(wasn't me)

[spice kraken]

🧢

haha

[scarlet gale]

I think I have it finished. Going to give it a proper test run during my game today then post the macro after assuming it doesn't bug out.

[velvet raptor]

Aaaah, redoing the DAE step is what did it! Thank you!! 🤗

[scarlet gale]

Midi (or something else) deletes the effect if the original item goes away.

[violet meadow]

Ohhh so it does!

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht 👆
Is this how it's supposed to work?
If you delete the Item that created an effect and/or template from the source Actor, then anything associated with that Item is deleted as well (concentration, templates, transferred effects).

[coarse mesa]

That feels very D&D tbh. Destroy the item and all the nasty effects dissipate

[scarlet gale]

I figured a way to work around it. Made an effect to handle the deletion of the spell when it's safe to.

All that's left is using the attack modifier of the original caster.

Less easy to do then the DC since I don't think there isn't a flat overwrite.

[violet meadow]

If the origin Item is not a spell I would totally agree 🤷

[violet meadow]

I will offer my fav solution as you would expect from me by now 😄 ```js
Hooks.on("dnd5e.preRollAttack", (item, config)=> {
//check item is the stored one and get the Flag
const originalAttackBonus = item.getFlag('world','originalAB')
config.parts = [originalAttackBonus]
})

[scarlet gale]

Well

I need to use the original actor's stats as well.

Spellcasting ability modifier + bonuses

[violet meadow]

Do you let the original caster, cast it before "storing" it?

[scarlet gale]

Nah

Didn't want to deal with needing targets and things

I have it manually going through the hoops of selecting a spell and taking away a spell slot if relevant

I just need to do the math on what an attack roll modier would be then store it

[violet meadow]

Ah sorry, its storing. Not like a reaction when another spell is cast

[scarlet gale]

Currently my plan is to calculate what the bonus to hit would be. Then on the new item, overwrite the attack roll with the correct formula during preAttackRoll

[violet meadow]

OK here it goes: ```js
token.actor.items.getName("Chill Touch").getAttackToHit()

Get into the parts and you've got what you need (if you set the parts in a flag as they are, then the aforementioned Hook will deal with it easily)

[scarlet gale]

ah

much easier

[violet meadow]

The same for .getDerivedDamageLabel() is helpful as well

[scarlet gale]

It's showing @mod + @prof

I would need to calculate that wouldn't I?

Cause if I just pass the parts

Wouldn't it use user's stats instead of the caster?

[violet meadow]

True. Would it be a fair assumption that in all cases the @mod and @prof will be included in the parts?! 🤔

You can get them from the rollData and replace them

[scarlet gale]

yea

Surely there is a function somewhere that does the trouble of evaluating this stuff?

[violet meadow]

You might be able to do a MidiQOL dummyworkflow and get it

simulateAttack or something

[molten solar]

lol

const parts = theStuff;
const formula = Roll.replaceFormulaData(parts.join(" + "), someDudesRollData);

Pay attention to @mod tho

[scarlet gale]

What about it?

[molten solar]

Just make sure its in the roll data

[violet meadow]

you can invoke "others" rollData

OK here goes another way 😄 ```js
const t = await new MidiQOL.DummyWorkflow(token.actor, token.actor.items.getName("Chill Touch"), token, new Set([token])).simulateAttack(token);

Then `t.attackRoll.formula.split("1d20 + ")[1]` should get it

Was checking in console, but you get the idea

[scarlet gale]

yea

[violet meadow]

Just put new Set([token]) instead of game.user.targets to make sure that it has a "valid" target

[scarlet gale]

Got it working with that

[violet meadow]

Well now more coffee...

[scarlet gale]

thanks

[violet meadow]

@fringe crag ItemMacro for the DAE macro.itemMacro ```js
const ragingTokenDoc = fromUuidSync(args.at(-1).tokenUuid)
if (args[0] === "on") await ragingTokenDoc.update({"texture.src":"path to the WereWolf Token Image"})
if (args[0] === "off") await ragingTokenDoc.update({"texture.src":"path to the Original Token Image"})

[fringe crag]

i am very new to programming such stuff. Where Do I put this? :/

[violet meadow]

There is a button on the character sheet title bar called ItemMacro

[fringe crag]

and the code into the larger one where 1 stands for the other?

[violet meadow]

Click ItemMacro

paste the code in there

[fringe crag]

ah up there sorry. One sec.

[violet meadow]

Make sure that in the Item Macro module settings this checkbox is NOT checked

Target put Self instead of None

[fringe crag]

it works fantastic!

Thank you very much!

@violet meadow I cant put Items in my character sheet now. may I have done something wrong?

[wicked geyser]

Hey hey. The Toll the Dead macro isn't working properly so I fixed it. (with help from @violet meadow)
The fixed Toll the Dead macro if anyone is interested:

if (args[0].macroPass !== "preDamageRoll") return;

const target = await fromUuid(args[0].targetUuids[0]);
const needsD12 = target.actor.system.attributes.hp.value < target.actor.system.attributes.hp.max;
const theItem = await fromUuid(args[0].uuid);
let formula = theItem.system.damage.parts[0][0];
let scaling = theItem.system.scaling.formula;
if (needsD12) formula = formula.replace("d8", "d12");
else formula = formula.replace("d12", "d8");
if (needsD12) scaling = scaling.replace("d8", "d12");
else scaling = scaling.replace("d12", "d8");
theItem.system.damage.parts[0][0] = formula;
theItem.system.scaling.formula = scaling;```
This also replaces the dice in the level scaling field and not just hte dice in the damage formula.

[violet meadow]

Hmm what? 🤔

Are you the GM? A player?

[fringe crag]

Im the GM. Works for every sheet except for the one in altered with the macro. Seems strange but I cant find any connection. Maybe i have to recreate the character ...

I copied the sheet and deleted the original and the copy works fine now

strange

[violet meadow]

Open the console (F12) and check for any red errors if this happens again

@wicked geyser what version of MidiQOL do you have?

[wicked geyser]

10.0.27

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL sample Items now have the Toll the Dead 10.0.13, which should correctly deal with that 🤷

const version = "10.0.10";
try {
    if (args[0].macroPass === "preDamageRoll") {
        const target = await fromUuid(args[0].targetUuids[0]);
        const needsD12 = target.actor.system.attributes.hp.value < target.actor.system.attributes.hp.max;
        const theItem = await fromUuid(args[0].uuid);
        let formula = theItem.system.damage.parts[0][0];
        let scalingFormula = theItem.system.scaling.formula;
        if (needsD12) {
            formula = formula.replace("d8", "d12");
            if (scalingFormula) scalingFormula = scalingFormula.replace("d8", "d12");
        }
        else  {
            formula = formula.replace("d12", "d8");
            if (scalingFormula) scalingFormula = scalingFormula.replace("d12", "d8");
        }
        theItem.system.scaling.formula = scalingFormula;
        theItem.system.damage.parts[0][0] = formula;
    }
} catch (err) {
    console.error(`${args[0].itemData.name} - Toll The Dead ${version}`, err);
}

[wicked geyser]

weird. Maybe another module overwrote it. I'll look into this. It was an easy enough fix regardless.

[violet meadow]

Yeah indeed.

[fringe crag]

If I wanted to automate the crimson rite damage buff. I can do it via Item.macro aswell?

[scarlet gale]

If you care for it, I have a lot of Blood Hunter stuff automated.

https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Features/Class Features/Blood Hunter/Crimson Rite/Crimson Rite.js

On use item macro. Requires Warpgate, Effect Macros, Midi-Qol, and DAE.

[fringe crag]

got all of that.
God I should have studied IT stuff. I'll try to set it up. Thanks!

[scarlet gale]

I have it pre-setup to work with what the ddb importer gives you. You may need to check your blood hunter class scales if you didn't use the ddb importer to generate it.

If anyone is feeling adventurous I've just uploaded my Ring of Spell storing automation: https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/tree/main/Items/Ring of Spell Storing

The dialogue for selecting the spell is a bit bad, but I didn't want to even try to figure out how to make a custom one that looks better.

[vast bane]

Get Lukas on that ;p

[fringe crag]

DO I have to change some parts depending on the rite I use or can I just copy paste?

[scarlet gale]

Just copy and paste, nothing to change.

On Use macro for the "Crimson Rite" feature. It should prompt you to select a weapon and rite (if you have more than one).

[fringe crag]

I didnt have the Effect Macro module. I'll check again

[vast bane]

Effect Macro is a really great tool if you are gonna go all the way down the automation rabbit hole

[fringe crag]

yea after setting up the bloodhunter. I'm getting ideas for a lot of other stuff, but since I cant code it's a hopeless dream haha

[scarlet gale]

Make sure the target is also set to self on the feature, not sure what it default imports as.

[vast bane]

I usually manage to pull off my solo attempts at automation by finding something similar

usually I just pick Chris, fotoply, and bugbears brains though

[violet meadow]

await this.item.setFlag('world', 'item.ross.storedSpells', []);
await this.item.setFlag('world', 'item.ross.spellSlots', 0);
await this.item.setFlag('world', 'item.ross.showSpells', true);
``` should be the same like ```js
await this.item.setFlag('world', 'item.ross', {'storedSpells': [], 'spellSlots': 0, 'showSpells': true});
``` to do this in 1 db transaction.

[fringe crag]

doesnt work. Does it only work if I used the DDB importer?

[scarlet gale]

It might be dipping out if it can't find a blood hunter scale.

[fringe crag]

maybe I did something wrong when creating the class

[scarlet gale]

It's likely not finding the right features and just exiting out during my feature check parts.

I have some hard-coded names in the macro for features.

[fringe crag]

looks right as far as I understand it

[scarlet gale]

Look for any spot that has a return

and see what's above it

[fringe crag]

Can it be the icon? because there is a lot of 'icon': 'icons/skills/melee/strike-sword-blood-red.webp', in it

[scarlet gale]

nah

[fringe crag]

if (!damageType) damageType = await chris.dialog('What Crimson Rite?', riteMenu);
if (!damageType) return;

u mean something like this?

[scarlet gale]

Sanity check, do you have any weapons equipped?

[fringe crag]

😄

[scarlet gale]

Errors in console?

After using the feature specifically.

[scarlet gale]

Hide warnings

and try again

(click custom levels then uncheck warnings)

[fringe crag]

yea I found it. But I have a hard time to see what Time what message is from

thats all I get

[scarlet gale]

No errors then

And you're sure you have warpgate?

Do you get a dialogue when you roll the feature?

[fringe crag]

I get no dialogue.

but I dont have any Options

[vast bane]

are you trying to use it on an npc?

[scarlet gale]

Oh, do you have a token on the map

Warpgate 100% needs a token on the field to work

I should really add a check in for that

[scarlet gale]

Sent you a DM if you didn't see it.

As an aside, there's nothing limiting you to use your crimson rite only once btw.

You can keep doing it for as many weapons you're holding.

As well re-do it if you drop the weapon and have to pick it back up.

You never put ItemMacro in the on use field.

[fringe crag]

oh have to redo that