MidiQOL

[spice kraken]

Most likely a bad formula

You can also check with f12 and check the console for errors

[nova lark]

Sometimes it seems to work, others it does not. However when my druid has me swap them and transform them, their attacks never auto damage

I have been using the transform using custom settings only because for whatever reason the core value with wild shape does not seem to be keeping any of the persons features or any of their abilities

[spice kraken]

First, does it work fine when the target is 1 | | creature?

[nova lark]

I shall check now

[spice kraken]

If not, check the console for errors and paste here

[nova lark]

AHhhh

That seemed to have worked

Alright, another question, i have absolutely no idea if this concept is possible

His character technically does the gutbuster damage upon a creature failing to escape a grapple, or upon him having a successful grapple check

As well as he can use his gutbuster armaments as an attack. (We took a homebrew race instead of the normal dnd 5e battlerager considering how awful that class is

is it possible to tie in an auto damage target on a successful grapple check?

[nova lark]

Interestingly, this character wildshaping to the bear works, but the wolf does not

[spice kraken]

Is the PC logged in, do you have a requestor module asking them for a save?

Cause it might be trying to req a save for the prone thing

[nova lark]

It currently is just me logged in

[spice kraken]

Console errors?

[nova lark]

I have lmrtfy but not requestor

[spice kraken]

That's what I meant by A requestor module. Should've been more clear, my b

[spice kraken]

Is this wolf one you got from DDB?

And the importer module?

[nova lark]

Yes

[spice kraken]

Does it work with a wolf from the SRD compendium

[nova lark]

That actually might be an SRD dire wolf

[spice kraken]

Double check with that instead

Just to be sure

[nova lark]

Yeah still the same issue with the SRD

I attempted to put the token as the DDB inputted dire wolf and it failed

So the SRD bear works fine, but the dire wolf does not

[spice kraken]

Does the damage pop up after you click the Saving Throw DC 13 Strength button?

[nova lark]

I click on it and nothing happens

[spice kraken]

Hmm

Could be cause of the new roll. Test again to be sure with the SRD wolf

Roll attack, click save button

[nova lark]

Just tried that

I held off on clicking damage until after i ran the save

[spice kraken]

Just to be sure, you have no other roller modules, right?

Like Better Rolls, Ready Set Roll, MRE, Faster Rolls By Default, etc

[nova lark]

I used to have better rolls, dropped it ages ago. I dont have any of the ones you lsited

The only thing maybe might be advantage reminder and combat booster?

Past that i dont have any roll helpers other than lmrtfy

[spice kraken]

2 things to test.

1. clear combat tracker and try all again
2. Disable all modules except midi and its dependencies

[nova lark]

I can try that

Clearing combat tracker does not fix it. Stillt he same issue

I can use the one mod to find issues to disable everything but midi and its dependencies right?

(Forgot its name

[spice kraken]

Yeah (find the culprit)

[nova lark]

using find the culprit should keep all midi dependencies correct?

[spice kraken]

Should but double check with the readme

IIRC it's libwrapper and socketlib

But could be wrong

[rancid tide]

I'm having this issue with completeItemUse I have a macro called by an ActiveEffect flags.midi-qol.onUseMacroName preActiveEffect that is basically a damage bonus if you roll a max value die, problem is that I noticed that when I have an item with an OnUse macro (ItemMacro) postActiveEffect with another completeItemUse the ItemCard gets cancelled when the first macro gets called

I feel like it's something about the order of how those macro are called because if I change the order (postActiveEffect/preActiveEffect) I get a different problem, it's driving me insane I've been on it for hours

[rancid tide]

It still rolls everything it just delete the ItemCard for some reason

[nova lark]

Used find the culprit and only kept librwapper socketlib and midi up. Checked the read me. Issue still exists

But the bear works flawlessly

[spice kraken]

You comfortable making a GM user for me and dming me your link for me to join and test?

[nova lark]

Absolutely

[spice kraken]

Midi wasn't handling saves so damage wouldn't check or apply. Enabling midi handling of saves fixed it

[vast bane]

I don't think those are midi chatcards, they are combined, midi doesn't combine cards that way. Try testing all of this with just midi up and its dependencies.

[spice kraken]

It was just midi

[spice kraken]

Spent quite some time debugging

Tested with just SRD creatures.

[vast bane]

His original posts have abnormal chat cards for midi is what I responded too didn't realize I was that far scrolled up

[spice kraken]

It looked like that with just the 3 modules enabled. No FF or auto-roll was set either

[nova lark]

Yeah, i have no chat card enhancements on other than i think dfreds?

[vast bane]

Weird, the damage formula's misaligned and the cards are combined with merge off

are you on the newest midi?

24?

[nova lark]

Yes

[spice kraken]

Yeah confirmed. No other roller modules

[coarse mesa]

DF Chat Enhancements merges cards

If they’re from the same user and within a certain timeframe

[violet meadow]

Did you try with DF chat enhancement off?

[last mural]

@scarlet gale i found the hex automation on your github. Could you explain to me how you did the setup? This one has no readme, sadly

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht MidiQOL 10.0.24, but I had seen that in previous versions too and kept forgetting to add an issue. Will do now. Issue created on git

1. Create multiple Actor on Use macros from the character sheet. No other effects adding onUse macros.

2. Deleting any one of the entries, will always delete the 1st one.

[acoustic jasper]

can you make "Activation Condition" in your item to roll "other damage" only if the roll had advantage?

[vast bane]

the activation condition needs to evaluate true

[violet meadow]

Try ```js
workflow.advantage

[acoustic jasper]

yeah it worked 😉

[kind cape]

I love how clean these things get with the activation condition 😄

[acoustic jasper]

follow up - activation condition with set range - for example "roll other if your target is within 30 feet range"? Or do I have to do it via macro?

[vast bane]

it assumes target fwiw but this one will need to be X=Y

[acoustic jasper]

'MidiQOL.getDistance(t, target, false) <= 30' ?

[vast bane]

dom't use false in the condition

or it will never roll it

[acoustic jasper]

hmm right now it always rolls it 😄

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL.getDistance(workflow.token,Array.from(workflow.hitTargets)[0]) <= 30

[acoustic jasper]

thatlonelybugbear to the rescue again 😉 works like a charm 😉

[violet meadow]

Also a bit easier to read: MidiQOL.getDistance(workflow.token, workflow.hitTargets.first()) <= 30

[muted tinsel]

I think that @abilities.int.mod is old terminology, where do I find the new terminology? I want to increase my AC by the INT modifier?

[dark canopy]

that is still correct

[muted tinsel]

then I have messed something up

its not applying to the sheet

[vast bane]

the AE probably isn't apply on roll or apply on equip, and you must ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS lead with +'s

you might have to wrap that in [[]] but only do that as a last resort

[spice kraken]

This works for me on v9

[vast bane]

That should not work lol

[spice kraken]

It works though, haha

[dark canopy]

totally valid in v9

[vast bane]

the datas were there in v9?

[dark canopy]

if you want, yes

[spice kraken]

Yes, v10 changed to system

[vast bane]

we can't use a system.abilities.int.mod in v10 can we?

I thought it had to be roll data or something

[dark canopy]

you can, yes

[spice kraken]

Idk about v10 but in v9 I noticed it wasn't working without the @data... which is why I added it

[vast bane]

Its also possible that the incomplete last flag is whats breaking that ae

[muted tinsel]

OK I deleted the other ones except AC bonus

[vast bane]

Does it work?

[muted tinsel]

does the transfer to actor need checked?

[vast bane]

when nothing is checked here, that means its going to listen to the Range/target of the items details tab and apply the ae when its rollled

For bladesong that means it should be self/self

and then it should work

well depends on what you put in the effect values

It won't work if the actors ac calculation is set to Flat

[muted tinsel]

its not set to flat, I have mage armor working

I am just doing something very stupid

[vast bane]

Ok, stupid question, do you have midi qol installed?

and enabled?

[muted tinsel]

oh yea

[vast bane]

show me what it looks like in chat when you roll it, and show me the details tab of the bladesong item

[vast bane]

set range to self in the right hand drop down

[vast bane]

Does the actor recieve an active effect on them show me the actors AE tab

[vast bane]

Lets rule out roller conflicts:

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
ANything with "Fast Rolls" in its name
Dice Tooltips
Gm Paranoia
WIRE
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage

[vast bane]

effects tab not features

[muted tinsel]

no conflicts

[vast bane]

you edited an owned item

you have a bug that is why people should edit things in sidebars and drag over

delete the inactive effect bladesong(and shield) and go edit the shield spell so its ae is not inactive/suspended

[muted tinsel]

So recreate bladesong in items

[vast bane]

no

delete that active effect

and now the item should roll right

but future reference, if you aren't aware of the few nuanced bugs with editing owned items with DAE, that is one of them, the ae's will untether from the item and block new same named items from rolling onto the actor

as the ae's don't stack by name

[opaque current]

FYI this is Bladesong in v10 and works fine with DAE and Midi

[muted tinsel]

where can I become more nuanced with DAE, I don't want to use CUPID anymore after moving to V10

[vast bane]

also mouse over the ac shield on that sheet, I do not think you have mage armor

[opaque current]

What the heck is cupid

[vast bane]

you have 3 dex mod and a 15 ac

[muted tinsel]

combat belt mod

[opaque current]

oh

[vast bane]

What does it say your armor calculation is on the actor when you mouse over that shield

whats it called

[muted tinsel]

this is with shield spell

[vast bane]

how did you go from 15 to 18 with shield

[muted tinsel]

3 dex, 2 bracers

+3 shield

[vast bane]

shield is 5...

[muted tinsel]

shield spell

need to change that

[vast bane]

edit the shield spell and change it to not apply on equip, and turn off the suspended box too on it

you should use the midi SRD spells for midi and not dnd5e's spells fyi

then make sure the shield spells target/range is set to self/self

(Or install Midi srd and drag and drop its shield spell in)

[muted tinsel]

its throwing an error and not allowing an install

[vast bane]

midi srd from the official is not v10 compliant I assumed bugbear replaced it but I guess not hang on

[muted tinsel]

do i want DAE SRD then?

[vast bane]

#1010273821401555087 message

[vast bane]

absolutely do not install DAE srd it is a dead module dead even in v9

[muted tinsel]

Thank you for all your help this morning

[vast bane]

is the bladesong thing working now?

you very much do not want to use any dnd5e srd compendium stuff that have inactive/suspended active effects on them, that throws midi into a stroke cause midi does not allow a new AE to apply due to stacking issues

Shield is the most noteable, I think maybe bless will have that as well

[spice kraken]

Bladesong isn't SRD so...

[vast bane]

They have other issues

thieir shield spell was inactive on the actor

[muted tinsel]

its not, but I have downloaded the midi srd

I will look at the examples and work from there for now

Just learning through examples and fine folks like yourselves willing to give your assistance

[vast bane]

[modern badger]

trying to code this but it refuses to autoapply the penalties on the user when rolling .3.

got it like dis

[vast bane]

I would make a separate dodge feature

[modern badger]

oh I will '3'

what's not working is the penalties feature

I want it to autoapply the penalties to the user after the item is rolled

but the active effect isn't popping up unless I manually activate it with the 'apply active effects' button

which will be v annoying in combat ;;

[vast bane]

If the weapon applies nothing to target only check last box

[scarlet gale]

This is how I have it configured. For the macro.createItem part you'll want to drag the move hex feature out of a compendium or your sidebar into the effect value field to get the correct uuid.

[modern badger]

done that ;; still not working

[vast bane]

Show us a weapon attack in chat

[vast bane]

Do you have effect transfer off?

Workflow tab in workflow button

[modern badger]

yes!

wait

no

what is effect transfer

workflow tab doesn't have anything like that .3.

[scarlet gale]

I think it's waiting for the damage roll to be done before applying the effect

[vast bane]

Think it's the special section

[scarlet gale]

Looks like they're not using fast rolls

[vast bane]

Also not checking hits

[modern badger]

all I got is this

[vast bane]

You need to finish the workflow

[modern badger]

oh

it does when damage is rolled

which is a problem...

see the thing is the penalty's supposed to apply whether the attack hits or not

[scarlet gale]

Then don't use an attack roll

[modern badger]

???

[vast bane]

Use dfreds actually

[scarlet gale]

I'm probably missing context, but you want the AE to apply even if the attack misses?

[modern badger]

yeah, it's an ultra greatsword, it's meant to leave u wide open

even if you don't hit, especially if you don't hit

[vast bane]

Use dfreds name recognition on item roll

[modern badger]

o3o

[scarlet gale]

Not sure that will work

If it does, surely that's a bug.

[modern badger]

would a macro work?

[scarlet gale]

Yea

[modern badger]

I just want to tell it to apply as soon as the item's rolled

hmmm, I dunno how to make an AE-applying macro tvt

[scarlet gale]

Easy way: Make another item/feature with just the AE.

Use action special or whatever

Harder way: Make a macro apply the AE.

[modern badger]

yeah first one's a no-go, can't go using a thing for EVERY attack

can anyone help me make a macro that applies it? tvt

[scarlet gale]

Could you screenshot the AE details tab?

[vast bane]

Macro is easy. Make hotbar Macro of that feature and call it on use

[modern badger]

ooooh right then the macro doesn't need to be programmed

it's not elegant but works

[vast bane]

When you drag a feature to hotbar look at its name and plug that into the monument on Use field at bottom or paste it into itemmacro

[scarlet gale]

What duration you want for this effect?

Or special duration

[modern badger]

it lasts until the start of the user's next turn

hmmm, again, inelegant

the chat message for the macro shows up with every attack

;~;

[scarlet gale]

making you something

[modern badger]

aaa

[scarlet gale]

if (this.targets.size === 0) return;
let effectData = {
    'label': this.item.name,
    'icon': this.item.img,
    'origin': this.item.uuid,
    'duration': {
        'rounds': 1
    },
    'changes': [
        {
            'key': 'system.attributes.ac.bonus',
            'mode': 2,
            'value': '-2',
            'priority': 20
        },
        {
            'key': 'system.abilities.dex.bonuses.save',
            'mode': 2,
            'value': '-2',
            'priority': 20
        }
    ],
    'flags': {
        'dae': {
            'specialDuration': [
                'turnStartSource'
            ],
            'stackable': 'noneName',
            'macroRepeat': 'none'
        }
    }
};
let targetToken = this.targets.first();
let targetActor = targetToken.actor;
await MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM('createEffects', {'actorUuid': targetActor.uuid, 'effects': [effectData]});

[modern badger]

aaaa

what do I replace? .3.

[scarlet gale]

Drop that in the item macro

[modern badger]

I assume 'this'

[scarlet gale]

nope

actually, you probably don't want this effect to stack right?

[modern badger]

nnon

hmm, dropped it and it doesn't do anything .3.

do I have to call it?

[scarlet gale]

Did you put ItemMacro in the on use field?

on the item

Let me make one more change to it, so it doesn't stack

Edited the above macro

[modern badger]

still not doing anything, weird

put ItemMacro in the usefield

[scarlet gale]

You need to complete the workflow

By default it runs all the way at the end

if you want it to run sooner you'll need to change it to after targeting or something

[modern badger]

setting it to after attack roll

[scarlet gale]

If it's still not working, could you screenshot the item?

[modern badger]

I tried it and it appeared on the enemy being targeted

[scarlet gale]

Is that not the intent?

[modern badger]

AfterAttackRoll would be ideal

nno

the intent is for it to be on the user o3o

[scarlet gale]

oh

sure

2 sec

let effectData = {
    'label': this.item.name,
    'icon': this.item.img,
    'origin': this.item.uuid,
    'duration': {
        'rounds': 1
    },
    'changes': [
        {
            'key': 'system.attributes.ac.bonus',
            'mode': 2,
            'value': '-2',
            'priority': 20
        },
        {
            'key': 'system.abilities.dex.bonuses.save',
            'mode': 2,
            'value': '-2',
            'priority': 20
        }
    ],
    'flags': {
        'dae': {
            'specialDuration': [
                'turnStartSource'
            ],
            'stackable': 'noneName',
            'macroRepeat': 'none'
        }
    }
};
let targetActor = this.actor;
await MidiQOL.socket().executeAsGM('createEffects', {'actorUuid': targetActor.uuid, 'effects': [effectData]});

Easy change

[modern badger]

it works :3

thanks!

[spice kraken]

Man I need to learn JS

Lines 2 - the last }; I get (only cause I learned how to do custom CE nested effects) but the rest is magic!

[scarlet gale]

I can explain it if you want

in a midi called item macro, this is just the workflow data

[spice kraken]

I can read it fundamentally

[modern badger]

this shit is a mix of rocket science and forbidden eldritch knowledge to me ;;

[spice kraken]

Just that if I were to create it myself, well it'd take a bit. Haha. I have SQL/Shell/Python knowledge so I get what is happening. Just learning vars and all is the hard part. Especially with my current JS training I only know how to print, haha

[scarlet gale]

The last line is just a copy and paste, I doubt it's documented anywhere

Using one of midi's exported functions to put an AE on something that you may or may not own

Using it to avoid permission issues essentially

In this case it can likely be swapped out to

await targetActor.createEmbeddedDocuments('ActiveEffect', [effectData]);```

[spice kraken]

Yeah, figured that with the executeAsGM

Main reason I haven't really dived into JS is I'm still on v9 (and work is just really busy with learning NiFi). And when I do I plan on 1. Learning how to properly play Stars Without Number and 2. Updating that to v10 and finishing the system. But let's be honest, V11 will be out before I'm done with v9, haha

[scarlet gale]

I was stuck on V9 for ages. But v10 has a ton of new toys to play with

Template Macros for example is what finally got me to stop waiting for an ASE update

[spice kraken]

True. Only reason I haven't updated is everything works for me rn and don't wanna deal with updating to v10 and losing some modules/macros during the campaign

[scarlet gale]

Totally fair

[last mural]

so this is my Hex Setup, but it's not working quite yet. Chris-Hex is the macro in my hotbar, just copy pasted from github. I'm not getting any prompt about the ability save though

[scarlet gale]

You can put it in the item macro instead

If you want

Do you have the warpgate module?

[last mural]

yes

[scarlet gale]

After using it could you screenshot your console?

[scarlet gale]

oh

I didn't include my helper functions lol

one moment

Re-copy them from my github now

I also missed this on my screenshot

[last mural]

now it's working, thanks ! :)
question about the usage: can I get it to work with Midi concentration ?

[scarlet gale]

It should already be doing so

Also one last check

Did you put an on effect deletion effect macro?

[last mural]

let targetTokenId = effect.changes[0].value;
let targetToken = canvas.scene.tokens.get(targetTokenId);
if (!targetToken) return;
let targetActor = targetToken.actor;
let targetEffect =  chris.findEffect(targetActor, 'Hexed');
if (!targetEffect) return;
await chris.removeEffect(targetEffect);

[scarlet gale]

Let me update that too

[last mural]

this is the OnDeletion on the "Hex" Effect

[scarlet gale]

missing my helper function again lol

updated

In my own game I just have all my helper stuff packed into a world script

So I sometimes forget to include them when I put stuff on my github

That should fix the concentration part of it

[last mural]

Weird, I see the "+Concentration" flaring up for a second, then once the dialog renders it's gone again

[scarlet gale]

That's weird

Errors in console at all?

[last mural]

nope

[scarlet gale]

Does the concentration icon disapear?

[last mural]

oh wait

no okay i dont get it

[scarlet gale]

the macro edits the concentration duration

[last mural]

i thought the problem was caused because i ticked the concentratio box in the spell

[last mural]

yes, it is there briefly, then dissapears

[scarlet gale]

Could you re-screenshot your item?

[last mural]

found the problem i think. i was not in combat. now it's working

[scarlet gale]

That's weird

Concentration shouldn't go away out of combat unless your time is going really fast

Or my duration isn't getting set right

[last mural]

thats the item

[scarlet gale]

Does it go away if game time is paused when you cast?

[last mural]

time paused = game paused ? then yes

i have times up, but not about time or simple calendar (which are the modules i know of for fiddling with time)

[scarlet gale]

hmm

That might effect it then

comment out line 107 on the hex item macro

place a // in front of it

[last mural]

still the same

im sorry i really didnt want to give you such a headache 😅

[scarlet gale]

All good, I'm just trying to figure out what could be causing that

Since that should have removed the update to the concentration time

Sanity check, try another spell with concentration?

[last mural]

other spell is working

[scarlet gale]

comment out line 99 maybe?

just to troubleshoot

[last mural]

problem still there

[scarlet gale]

could you screenshot your midi workflow settings for concentration?

(and uncomment both of those lines I mentioned)

[last mural]

i will be gone for now, but can ping you once im available again!

[scarlet gale]

Just as a check, see if changing the bottom option to Never fixes it. If so, I need to troubleshoot why that would happen

[last mural]

didnt fix it :(

thanks a bunch though for taking the time to troubleshoot with me 👍🏻

[scarlet gale]

Some module interaction I'm not sure of, potentially not having about time / simple calendar

[idle crypt]

noob question: Why is so that it dosent work clicking on the thumbnail to roll certain spells? seems random what works or not. is it beacuse I have a macro attached to a spell?

[acoustic nest]

Is there something special that needs to be done for conditions to be applied after a failed save? e.g. a vampire performs the charm action which triggers a save, but the charmed effect is never applied

[sly quiver]

I am having an issue with Midi qol in v10. For some reason it wont use the damage buttons in chat to apply damage to tokens, is there a certain setting I've ticked/unticked? as I've read through it about 3 times trying to get it to work.

[coarse mesa]

@violet meadow would it be an upcoming update to Times Up... or DAE? that resolves the issues with effect expiry after combat?

[molten solar]

Yes. Check the console (F12) when this happens.

[sudden crane]

I think that out of combat times-up relies on simple calendar for some of the expiration logic

[vast bane]

Not enough info to tell you, but if the spells that work are self/self and the spells that aren't are targetables, it could mean you have require targets selected in the options and it does nothing because the user has no target. It could also just mean that the items are broken too though.

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
ANything with "Fast Rolls" in its name
Dice Tooltips
Gm Paranoia
WIRE
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage

[sly quiver]

Maybe thats why its broken. thank you

[vast bane]

alternatively it could be your damage section settings in workflow button->workflow tab

[sly quiver]

Ill get a screen shot of that, see if its that

[vast bane]

what does an attack look like in chat

[sly quiver]

sorry for the screenshot, but its on the right side.

I've clicked the token I want to attack, i click the red buttons to deal damage and it doesnt do anything

The workflow tab

[vast bane]

I'm concerned you have another roller installed, but also you do not have the damage card enabled

the buttons you see are the "failsafe" buttons for when merge cards is on and people don't automate damage

the first drop down in damage section you have automated damage to NO

[sly quiver]

I dont think I've got another roller installed, I can check.

[vast bane]

The best part of midi's damage management, whether you auto it or not is the damage CARD which is in that drop down, select an option that includes the card.

[sly quiver]

I chose no + damage card, cause I dont want to auto apply damage, just want the buttons to work to apply damage.

[vast bane]

ok but its just NO in the image fyi

[sly quiver]

Yeah, just changed it thanks 😄

[vast bane]

having damage card should then show the DM and player chaser damage cards which is the best part of midi management of hp

those other buttons you have enabled are typically for when automation fails and you have merge cards turned on cause in merged cards you can't use core right click menu

also those other buttons are selected only while the damage card is already setup to do whatever it says regardless of selections and targets

[sly quiver]

Yeah so during v9 I used to have it that I could click a token, click a button to apply the damage myself. So I could roll half or 1/4 or x2 if I needed.

Only possible roller I have is Better roll tables & actually private rolls, but they werent on your list, I dont think

[vast bane]

The damage card has that in a drop down and those red buttons you showed previously also do that, but nothing has changed in this regard from v9 to v10 so if your v9 method looked different my guess is you had Better Rolls for 5e doing damage.

Zhell made me fix the cut and paste so here it is officially:

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage

[spice kraken]

They said Better Roll Tables, not BR. But could've also had BR in v9

[sly quiver]

So I made that change, and its come up with this

But its still not applying damage with the buttons.

Perhaps it was better roll tables?

[spice kraken]

I doubt it but you can try and disable it and test

[vast bane]

show us the item details, specifically the bottom third of that weapon that just rolled

If thats a private roll why does it look public lol?

[sly quiver]

Its the UI im using I think

[spice kraken]

Also, double check that actor isn't immune to the damage type

[vast bane]

thats why I am asking for a snippet of the item, theres no damage flavor

[sly quiver]

I've got immunities turned off, cause damages are different and custom in this

[vast bane]

pretty sure None=No damage in midi

[spice kraken]

Show the details tab of the item you're using to attack

[vast bane]

the bottom third is what we really want to see, but regardless of DR/DV/DI, damage flavors still matter to midi. If the items got NONE for the damage formula, then its not dealing damage.(period)

[sly quiver]

as in this?

[spice kraken]

No

Edit the item and show the details tab

[vast bane]

That'll do it

you are telling midi that it deals no damage

[sly quiver]

Theres one in the drop down that says no damage though, seperate to none

[vast bane]

I think thats a core thing I dunno but none deals none

If you have custom damage types you can add them to midiqol/dnd5e fyi

[sly quiver]

So it requires a damage type? Is there any way to turn that off? cause the damage types these enemies do isnt in the core 5e

[vast bane]

but midi really needs DI/DR/DV to shine for damage management fyi

[spice kraken]

1d6[super cool damage type here]

[sly quiver]

So I changed an attack to deal cold damage, but still the same thing

Its not applying damage.

[vast bane]

@sly quiver To piggy back on Super's post, do not put 2 flavors in one dice equation unless theres 2 dice rolls. It will confuse midi and cause it to fail. so 1d4[banana] + 4[orange] is bad, but 1d4[banana] + 1d6[orange] is ok

[vast bane]

test with just socketlib, and libwrapper, and midiqol enabled

I still think you got something bad installed

[sly quiver]

I have all 3 of those installed. I can share the modules list

[vast bane]

install find the culprit press its button in manage modules, check socketlib, libwrapper, and midiqol and start FTC process, if the damage fails initially then we're back to sussing out midi settings

if it works then you got a module that I don't know about for failing with midi

Personally I would go get a world script for your custom damage types so that midi can leverage DR/DV/DI for you

[sly quiver]

Dont know what that is, but I can try

[vast bane]

delete those images

you need to clean up your v10 build

you have a ton of v9 modules installed in v10 foundry. The update button for modules is broken initially till you get a v10 branch of each of those modules installed

you have to manually check each modules foundry page if it has a v10, if it does, you can uninstall/reinstall but the UPDATE button will not work. it will say you are fine cause you are on the newest V9

[vast bane]

send me those images in a DM

[violet meadow]

Not sure 🤔

[rancid tide]

Sorry but I'm still having problems with this

[vast bane]

did you check 10.0.24 yet, it looks like he tweaked something in the newest midi for multiple on uses

[rancid tide]

I'll see if I have an update available

[rancid tide]

I've the update but the problem persist

[violet meadow]

Can you share the macro so that we can take a look on what you are working with?

[rancid tide]

Yes of course

Give me a moment

The ItemMacroOnUse is an item macro from a damage item with a secondary effect that the macro actives via completeItemUse, meanwhile onUseMacroNameDAE is a passive feature that via completeItemUse act as a damage bonus for the first item

The issue I'm having is that when the ItemMacro OnUse triggers flags.midi-qol.onUseMacroName CUSTOM ItemMacro.Instruments of Destruction the ItemCard of the completeItemUse (from the ItemMacro) gets deleted after a brief second

Everything works as intended, I don't encounter any issue with what I want the code to do, the only thing that bugs me is that the ItemCard gets deleted, which is annoying for tracking damage

[violet meadow]

Sorry too tired to follow this right now! It seems that you chain two MidiQOL.completeItemUse to get the damage you need.

Just as a quick suggestion, have you considered using something like MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage() or MidiQOL.DamageOnlyWorkflow for the extra damage?

[rancid tide]

Oooooo omg no! That could work!

THank you I'll try that

[rancid tide]

Can I find the arguments for those functions anywhere? I'm looking at Midi's API but it's not super specific on what the functions want

[violet meadow]

Type in console MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage and same for the other one.

oh sorry misread your comment

giv me asec

[rancid tide]

Thank you so much

[violet meadow]

const damageRoll = await new Roll('1d4[piercing]').evaluate()
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage( [{type: "piercing", damage: damageRoll.total}], damageRoll.total, new Set([targets]), item, new Set([saves]), {existingDamage: args[0].damageList,  workflow: args[0].uuid} );

A small example

And another ```js
if (!args[0].hitTargets.length) return;
const {tokenId, damageTotal, itemCardId} = args[0];
const sourceToken = canvas.tokens.get(tokenId);
const sourceActor = sourceToken.actor;
const othDamageTotal = damageTotal;
const necroDamageRoll = await new Roll(${othDamageTotal}).evaluate();
const damage = Math.min(necroDamageRoll.total,15+10*(args[0].spellLevel));
new MidiQOL.DamageOnlyWorkflow(sourceActor, sourceToken, damage, "temphp", [sourceToken], necroDamageRoll, {flavor: "Theft of Vitae", itemCardId});

[rancid tide]

Isn't there a list of argument and possible options I have with the function, I'm looking into using DamageOnlyWorkflow but idk if a) it works with multiple targets (and if it wants the uuids or the actor) b) if it shows the damage roll (which I want) c) as a argument it wants "token" but token of who? The actor?
Like there are a bunch of stuff I need to know but I can't find a documentation about it

[rancid tide]

Okay this is useful

But I have still some doubts on how to use it in my specific case

[violet meadow]

What is it that you want to emulate?
A description of the item would help

[rancid tide]

just a sec

[rancid tide]

Whenever you deal damage and roll the highest value on one of the damage dice, you can roll the die one additional time and add the number rolled to the damage.

Okay it works but it doesn't roll the die it just shows the result, there isn't a way to show the roll (I'm using dice so nice)

Also it says that new Roll isn't supported anymore and the damage card doesn't show

[violet meadow]

You can use the DSN API to show a rolled dice with something like ```js
game.dice3d?.showForRoll(roll, game.user, true);

Are you trying to emulate exploding dice?

What is the damage formula?

[rancid tide]

Yes basically but it needs to work with a damage bonus macro

So I can't make it a damage bonus macro because those are executed together and it wouldn't be able to register the result

[rancid tide]

wdym?

[violet meadow]

Trying to figure out the use case.

Weapon damage 1d8
Sneak Attack damage 2d6 through a flags.dnd5e.DamageBonusMacro

Feature, gather all rolled dice, check if one of them rolled max and explode it?

[rancid tide]

yes

exactly

Maybe I found how to make it work, I'm testing it right now

Nope still doesn't show damage card

I it shows it but there's nothing in there

[violet meadow]

Hmm a screenshot of the damage card?

[rancid tide]

yes a second

[rancid tide]

The extra damage is Instruments of Destruction

My theory is because DamageOnlyWorkflow wants target tokens I think? And I'm giving it target actors

So now I'm figuring out how to get the tokens

[violet meadow]

OK share the snippet of the MidiQOL.damageOnlyWorkflow you use

[rancid tide]

A moment

[coarse mesa]

Looks like this is a definite yes... looking forward to tomorrow

[rancid tide]

Okay now it works as intended

I'll link the macro in a moment

[violet meadow]

It will be 4am local time for me 😭

[rancid tide]

p.s. I don't have to worry for Roll? It throws this warning everytime

[violet meadow]

Oh are you v9?

[rancid tide]

nope

v10

[violet meadow]

Ah that was what you said before for the Roll not being supported?
That is just a warning

[rancid tide]

Yes, so I don't have to worry about it loosing support?

[violet meadow]

you can pass it evaluate({async:true})

But yeah no worries

[rancid tide]

Okay great thanks you're a life saver

Last last thing, out of curiosity, is there a way to fuse the damage cards with damageOnlyWorkflow? So I don't have 2000 damage cards from the same item?

[violet meadow]

Nope unfortunately

[scenic scroll]

Hi, is there a way to throw a Rolltable in a Overtime ?

[rancid tide]

Okay thanks anyway for the help

[violet meadow]

Do you want to roll on a table, when triggered by an OverTime effect?

[scenic scroll]

it's for the Confusion spell, each round, the target must roll on a table to have his behavior

since i have put an overtime for the Wisdom save, i'm asking if i can put the throw on the rolltable in it too

[violet meadow]

I would do that in a DAE macro.execute

OT will need to roll a save, damage roll or ability check iirc

Or with Effect Macro on combat turn start

[scenic scroll]

ok, thanks, i will do that with macro
it was just a questionning 🙂

[sudden crane]

I gave a try to automate Unwavering Mark, here is my macro.

[covert mason]

This is incredible! Thank you so much!

[sudden crane]

It also supports if another cavalier marks a target already marked, it removes the previous mark and removes any special attack that were triggered but not yet used by the previous marker

[uncut citrus]

hey guys

I have a small problem. When I'm using a player's sheet and I make an attack roll, I'm asked if I want to play normal, advantage or disadvantage. But all my players are automatically rolling advantage. Would anyone know what it could be?

fast forwards for players is turn opff

off*

in fact, sometimes he rolls in advantage and sometimes he asks how he should roll. Even under the same conditions

[coarse mesa]

If you log in as one of your players, does it still happen?

[uncut citrus]

yes, it happens only when logo with the player. When I use his sheet as a GM everything is normal

[coarse mesa]

Hmm I’ve not heard of anything like that happening. Makes me wonder if it’s a weird keybind or something. Does it happen with only midi and dependencies activated, all other modules deactivated?

[vast bane]

Show us a snippet of the player and gm tabs of your midi settings workflow button

and incase this clears things up easier, when a DM rolls a players stuff as the DM, it will use the DM's settings

And assistant GM's use GM rules

[vast bane]

I keep telling myself I will investigate why this is happening but for some reason our wizards sculpt spells feature is not working and I have asked a bajillion times if hes following my instructions and he keeps saying yes and I see him pretargeting. Does anyone else have an issue with the sculpt/subtle flag for midi? It works fine with me now in the world in a quiet non live session but whenever we are in a live session it always goes to shit and we just manually undo the damage to the allies.

also could it be done that we set the sculpt flag to an equation in effect value for if the spell is evocation?

[violet meadow]

You could untarget automatically Friendlies when you roll an item if that's what you mean, with an Actor onUse macro

And by subtle spell you probably mean careful spell metamagic right?

Hmmm the upper number of creatures that you can choose from is a slight issue

[violet meadow]

Crude Actor onUse for sculpt spell, called Once the template is placed (MidiQOL should be auto targeting one way or another for ranged/spell attacks) ```js
if (!token.actor.items.getName("Sculpt Spells") || args[0].item.system.school !== "evo") return;
game.user.updateTokenTargets(args[0].targets.filter(tok=>tok.disposition !== canvas.tokens.get(args[0].tokenId).document.disposition).map(i=>i.id))

This will check if the actor has an Item called `Sculpt Spells` and if the rolled Item's school is `evocation` .

Then it will update all targets to not include tokens of the same disposition as the caster.

[vast bane]

I mean can't we make sculpt spells only work on evocation spells by using an evaluation in the flag?

[violet meadow]

sculpt spells flag is supposed to work only for evocation spells

[vast bane]

oooh ok

[violet meadow]

Carefull spell flag does all

[vast bane]

now as for targets I dunno why but everytime he does it it fails to save the allies

could it be somehow an interaction with df manual rolls, thats the only thing different between he and I other than dm/player

I can't fully rule out user error, but I swear to god I see the pretargets myself

[violet meadow]

To be honest I haven't encountered the situation cause no player of mine has the feature 🤔

ffs the rules for Sculpt Spells is creatures equal to 1 + spell's level...

[vast bane]

I think I'm just gonna make his evo spells have the auto save friendly thing in them

[kind cape]

Have you tried having them screen-share on Discord while they do it?

[violet meadow]

Put the script in an ItemMacro on the Scuplt Spell feature and either create an Actor onUse ItemMacro.Sculpt Spells | Called only once a template is placed
or create a DAE on the Scuplt Spells Item flags.midi-qol.onUseMacroName | Custom | ItemMacro.Scuplt Spells, templatePlaced (not sure about the templatePlaced).

I think auto save friendly will show in the save card which I find too much info but 🤷

[vast bane]

I think its just a user error the guy is just frustrated cause of how wonky it is to use the feature, you pretarget then you cast the spell and when you get the template to place everything goes wonky

oh actually this will be alot simpler than I thought

I just have to change the targetting of template evo spells from creature to enemy

nope not gonna work, man this is annoying

[vast bane]

this does indeed work perfectly man thank you

[violet meadow]

This is the end result with the small macro

[vast bane]

I didn't connect the dots till I gave up on my own method

your actor on use method seems to just forgo the fake saves and just flat ignores the allies which I feel is better for him cause its all frustrating when the players have to all make saves for nothing

I thought the auto save friendly would work but that doesn't cause no damage

a fireball would still hit them

[violet meadow]

yeah it will ignore all friendlies, but it needs further tweaking to respect the upper number of targets ignored per spell description, but heck I don't imagine that being an issue most of the time

[vast bane]

The problem with the whole process was the double targetting so personally I prefer to just exclude them all

level 3's will allow for 4 targets and the likelihood that 5 or more allies are in his aoe's is so slim that I just don't care

[muted tinsel]

Hey I just wanted to let you know the problem I was having was that I wasn't targeting myself to cast the spell. I thought it was something as stupid as that, it works now!

[vast bane]

you shouldn't need to target self for self/self items

[unique cape]

Hello there

Using Spiritual Badger warp gate example https://github.com/trioderegion/warpgate/wiki/Summon-Spiritual-Badger to make my own summon, I've found a couple issues I couldn't find answers to.

1. Is there a way to have it get actor name from the caster, without specifying it for each character I'd like to use the spell for?
   const actor = game.actors.getName("Morthos"); I mean this line

2. How do I assign a hover speed to one of the summon options? I tried

actor: {
    'data.attributes.hp' : {value: 30+10*(level-3), max: 30+10*(level-3)},
    'data.attributes.movement.fly' : {value: 40 },
},``` 
but the summoned creature displays "Fly [object Object]

(Using midi if it matters, replaced rollItem with ``const level = args[0].spellLevel;``)

[vast bane]

I don't think there is a hover speed, just use fly, personally I'd use walking just cause drag ruler has a stroke with fliers

I'm pretty sure in foundry v10 you should never declare actor

spiritual badger is a v9 example so it doesn't know thats naughty

[unique cape]

dnd5e wiki specifies @attributes.movement.hover but yes, I went for the simple solution of fly. Even then, I am not sure in what format the value should be to work

[vast bane]

look at the other warpgate wiki summons for examples, he made a ton of midi examples its trully a great wiki

[unique cape]

It does complain about a few items but it still has backwards compat.

[vast bane]

Nah actor is really naughty in v10 you shouldn't declare it

[unique cape]

That's where the Summon spiritual badger is from. Is there another place?

[vast bane]

you get away with declaring it if you have advanced macros but its not recommended

[unique cape]

Oh, you mean a completely different place, not the author's wiki?

[violet meadow]

Just use actor.

[unique cape]

const actor = game.actors.getName("actor") Like this?

[vast bane]

he should have a bunch of other summon examples in the same wiki

[vast bane]

What summons are you trying to actually make?

Summon beast?

Janner just went through making most of the tashas summons and they shared them here a few weeks ago so you can probably find them by searching here

[unique cape]

Summon Undead, reflavoured further. Could you point me to where to look? Can't find Janner

[violet meadow]

No, I mean if you use actor it will be already defined

[vast bane]

I don't think Janner made Summon Undead

[unique cape]

Solved fly by adding an active effect to a feature instead

[violet meadow]

You dont need to define actor again in the macro

Is this an ItemMacro on the Item rolled?

[vast bane]

Spiritual badger is setup to be one fwiw which is what he was workign off of

[unique cape]

Oh, I see. Removed the getName line and it works! Many thanks

[unique cape]

Yes

Both issues solved, case closed. Thanks again

[dark canopy]

Hover is a property of the actor's move speed for fly -- not a speed in and of itself

so, Fly 60ft vs Fly 60ft (hover)

[unique cape]

Ye, ended up using DAE to add a passive effect to the feature of one of the summons, setting hover to true and fly 40

[vast bane]

I believe the purposes of hover is that it can't be prone

[violet meadow]

And just hover on the same spot when 0 speed.

[dark canopy]

could do it directly via the summon updates, but if it works it works

[unique cape]

It is what it is. But now I am curious how would you do this? It's a fly speed for only one of the summon options.

actor: {
    'data.attributes.hp' : {value: 30+10*(level-3), max: 30+10*(level-3)},
    'data.attributes.movement.fly' : {value: 40 },
},``` 
this didn't work for me. It's probably something basic I am missing

[vast bane]

You should definitely search here for janners he just made the summon beast one and it deletes the features that don't apply to the choice

[dark canopy]

if you are on v10 -- replace data with system, but that looks mostly correct, you are just looking for the hover boolean? or what doesnt work from here

[vast bane]

#1010273821401555087 message

[unique cape]

Just figured out how to add hover, but fly added this way doesn't work, it outputs:
@vast bane Thanks, I'll take a look. It does seem to contain an example on how to apply fly movement

[vast bane]

@covert mason did you ever make Summon Undead too?

[dark canopy]

i think its just ...fly: 40

rather than ...fly: {value: 40}

[unique cape]

Oh man, it was that simple. Yeah, that was it

[dark canopy]

{
    "burrow": 0,
    "climb": 0,
    "fly": 40,
    "swim": 0,
    "walk": 40,
    "units": "ft",
    "hover": true
}

just for reference 🙂

[lone epoch]

Hey people, is there a way to set up hex correctly in MidiQoL?

[vast bane]

Look at either bugbears or Chris' profiles I think either of them have a premade for hex

I think one has hex and the other has hexblades curse

[opaque current]

I would set the spell to add an Active Effect to the target to "mark" it, and then use Build-a-Bonus for the extra damage. For the disadvantaged ability I would tell the GM "they have disadvantage on that ability".

[last mural]

If you want to go full Auto with Midi+Effect Macro. Chris explained to me how to setup his Version #1010273821401555087 message

[vast bane]

Yeah Chris's stuff is pretty dope, plus Effect macro is really good for the Meta of Midi premades, I use it alot now

[covert mason]

Sadly not

[lone epoch]

I think I am not good enough with MidiQoL to set it up like that - I do not understand half of the description

[scarlet gale]

The ddb importer has an ok working hex. It doesn't handle changing targets well however. Or upcast spell duration.

[violet meadow]

Throw this in an ItemMacro on the spell and add a MidiQOL onUse macro ItemMacro | All

It will not handle the target change correctly, but small issue IMHO and I didn't bother to update it

[vast bane]

I bet you, that you could totally pull this off with an Advantage reminder flag now that kaelad added the grant message flags

cause you can use spelllevel in the AR flag messages I think, or maybe its item.level I forget

oh wait does hex scale damage?

[violet meadow]

I think not. Just duration

[rancid tide]

Can applyTokenDamage generate a workflow? Like completeItemUse can do as a option?

[proper sluice]

[5e] What would be the best way to get a character to roll 4d20 instead of 2d20 if they have advantage on an attack roll? Similar to the elven accuracy special trait which does 3d20. I guessed via some sort of macro but I have never done anything like this before so don't know where to start.

[vast bane]

why not just do auto hit?

mathematically insane to miss

[proper sluice]

It's for crit fishing specifically

[violet meadow]

nope

Hmm, do I misremember this? 🤔

[rancid tide]

I don't think so, I've looked for quite a bit and I couldn't find anything of the sorts, so I'm pretty sure it's not possible

[violet meadow]

I think you can tie it on an existing workflow, if you pass it in the options:{}, but it's not an Item Roll.

What you could do is create an item that does no damage, but uses a macro to ApplyTokenDamage...
Why do that is a question though 🤔 😅

[scarlet gale]

A dummy workflow does some of a workflow

Can always roll a synthetic item if you need the full thing

[violet meadow]

should have used "create" item to better indicate that 😄
Ephemeral items FTW 😄

[rancid tide]

I just liked how applyTokenDamage handles damage on tokens, but honestly, in practice it's better to use completeItemUse

At least for the stuff I have to do

[dry dragon]

Forgot Midi-QOL has a thread now... linking this here.
#513918036919713802 message

[violet meadow]

You might want to add a feature request to MidiQOL git for that.

[vast bane]

I take it midi is not gonna be ready for 2.1 yet right?

[violet meadow]

Well I don't believe that much can break, but will test soon /s

[dark canopy]

basically no one in this channel should be updating their dnd5e system right now

(unless you just doing it on a fresh install to see the carnage 😅 )

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/52EZrtYlXje70ke7xC/giphy.gif

Some people just want to see their worlds burn?

[violet meadow]

I wanted and did. DO NOT UPDATE

[vernal palm]

Hello. I tried searching, but I couldn't find anything. Does MidiQOL have any way of handling the Fighting Style: Interception? Since it would be an attack on an ally within 5 feet, I can't figure out how to program it.

[vast bane]

My way of handling those situations is I use an aura on the fighter 5ft allies only. And it adds the reaction to them as a DAE key macro.createitem

however that specific use case, I think Chris or Bugbear pondered it but its impossible to prevent crits or something

[vernal palm]

Thanks. I could probably handle crits by hand. This helps a lot. Now I have to figure out how to do it.

[vast bane]

You could also have the feature fighting style roll and add the grant.disadvantage key to the ally before the roll is ever made

[kind cape]

The 2.1.0 update breaks a lot of the underlying data model, its no wonder that MIDI will need an update 😂

[molten solar]

More like it keeps it clean from people who do break it

[kind cape]

Its a needed cleanup, but sometimes cleanups break stuff 😛

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht dnd5e 2.1.0 MidiQOL v10.0.24.
Workflow breaks if an attack hits with ```js
utils.js:319
Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: trait.includes is not a function

Same for `bypasses.includes()`

Something like `trait.some(tr => tr === "nonmagic")` instead of  `trait.includes("nonmagic")` maybe

[molten solar]

has, if they're sets

[violet meadow]

I always forget has for some reason

[old yew]

Couple questions: I'm putting together a magic weapon, and am not quite sure how to accomplish three of its effects.

1. Damage is dealt to max hp
2. -1 to AC provided by worn armor
3. Extra damage to celestials and fiends

[vast bane]

Do the effects stack?

[violet meadow]

1 and 2 can be done with effects.

3 with an activation condition for Other Formula damage checking target's type

[old yew]

Yes. AC damage stacks on each hit, but the tricky part is that it only damages the worn armor.

[vast bane]

here is how you set stacking for armor corrosion

I doubt you will be able to automate the worn ac

[fringe saddle]

this is indeed the case, Anonymous always assume that player owned actors are visible, but i do those checks directly in the module instead of the API, i will try to make it there instead also

[vast bane]

the extra damage to a specific creature type you can just steal from Mace of Disruption in midi sample items

[old yew]

I tested the basic -1 to AC bonus, but it just keeps reducing AC on each hit and also ends up applying to natural armor, which I don't want

[vast bane]

the hp drain thing is gonna be tricky

[violet meadow]

Will need a macro to lower the AC of the "worn" armor

Are all these effects associated with one weapon?

[old yew]

Yeah, it's a legendary shortsword

[vast bane]

lol legendary shortsword, like putting a really loud muffler on a honda accord

[old yew]

LOL, more like hiding an Acura NSX under an Accord skin

[slim summit]

Hey, I have a really simple automation for Armor of Hexes, I don't think I need to change, but I would like to know if I could change the number color when pass/fail to green/red, like crit/fumble in d20 roll, and how I do this.

[fringe saddle]

@coarse mesaActually, check for player ownership outside of the playersSeeName function is still needed, so i will need to do a mix of both

this is done

[coarse mesa]

Legendary, thanks for chipping in on this, tposney is likely under the hammer right now... especially with dnd5e 2.1.0 out today

[fringe saddle]

i am glad that someone is actually using my API :p

don't hesitate to ping me when needed

[vast bane]

I will probably switch to yours from CUB just to avoid this really annoying cub error since I'm only using it for name hiding now and with enhanced conditions turned off it keeps throwing an error for some automated stuff

[violet meadow]

Anonymous is my go to from day 1 😄

[kind cape]

I used to use CUB a lot for what anon does now, but at this point I've just taught my players to not metagame from the names 😛 (I might have named a creature the name of another similar creature to teach em a lesson)

[vast bane]

Sadly I honestly don't think it matters, cause MTB spoils names

I requested maybe he use anonymous or cub to hide names in it but no change yet

[violet meadow]

I stopped using MTB for the most part. Only through its API for some challenges

[vast bane]

I use it alot for its macros, and I use it for taunt/shieldbash/shove which happen alot in combat

dfreds CE also spoils it, and that would be an awkward ask of him to see if he can use cub name hiding lol

[violet meadow]

Yeah for that me too.
I just don't use it for saves etc through the workflow. I create a message from Midi and let the players roll

[vast bane]

For dfreds it spoils if you set messages to players too, which is neat to do cause the conditions have info about them, so what I do is I set the messages to DM view, and then manually reveal the condition messages that are helpful

[violet meadow]

I had never encountered that as I don't use the messages from DFreds

[vast bane]

@violet meadow

The newest Midi seems to have broken macro.createitem

[violet meadow]

I cannot properly test. I have access only to my test instance and its already updated to dnd5e 2.1.1

Log it in the gitlab 😉

[vast bane]

I'm reverting to 23 to see if it works again, it could also be inventory plus causing this

cause inventory plus is really weird right now

[violet meadow]

Just test with midiqol and prereqs

and then downgrade if needed

[vast bane]

with just the 4 enabled, it works....but it works too well:

[violet meadow]

Doubles up?😅

[vast bane]

yeah the duplicate shows up when I close the item

cause on a npc you can't just toggle equip/attune like on tidy5e sheet

I'll bug report it

I think it has something to do with the item update as you click out of the drop down in the attune on the item

I did confirm that the original bug is inventory plus though

The duplication is caused by something in midi 10.0.24, its the culprit

does not happen in 23

[vast bane]

the double up can also occur if you attune before you equip before you attune Equip before you attune.

[soft basalt]

Okay, Dnd5e on Foundry V10. All the rolls are working properly, damage and saves are being calculated properly, but 1) damage is not auto-applying, and 2) if I use the same weapon twice in a row, it deletes the previous card from chat. Any thoughts?

I checked and the apply damage setting is enabled, but I also tried adding buttons to the card -- I can click them, but it doesn't apply the damage.

[vast bane]

version number of dnd5e

[soft basalt]

Sorry, 2.0.3

[vast bane]

oh wait you are fresh v10 right?

[soft basalt]

Yeah, sorry right from the other channel

[vast bane]

I'm gonna skip ahead and just guess right now that you still have better rolls for 5e installed and active

[soft basalt]

Nope, I deleted it a long time ago.

[vast bane]

hmmmm

[soft basalt]

Just double checked

[vast bane]

can you show us the chat when you roll twice what it looks like after

[soft basalt]

yep one sec

[vast bane]

@violet meadow It combatbooster causing the macro.createitem to fail to apply and delete itself. Not sure wtf that is about those two modules couldn't be further apart in scope

[violet meadow]

Another module that I don't use 😄

[vast bane]

the find the culprit for that was so hard to micro manage that I honestly don't want to deal with retrying it lol

[scarlet gale]

That one has had issues with active effects before.

[soft basalt]

so in that chat, I rolled hand axe 2 twice.

Had two full rolls, hit/miss, damage calc, etc

[vast bane]

for starters you don't have damage auto application on

Try rolling that attack twice with just socketlib, libwrapper, and midiqol enabled, I suspect your issue is whatever you are using to roll it with

[soft basalt]

Also all three of those are enabled

[vast bane]

oh wow, thats a rare setting, I guess you can automate without the damage card

and you are certain that it is not...wait a minute lets just rule out these...

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
Fast Rolling by Default
Fast Rolls or Quick Rolls
Dice Tooltips
Taragnor's Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Whistler's Item Rolls Extended)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage
Max Crit

[soft basalt]

Nope, none of those installed. Although retroactive would be nice

[vast bane]

I mean for you to only have those 3 enabled, clearly in your image you have other modules enabled as I see dice tray

[soft basalt]

Oh okay, got it

With just those three, issue persists.

Using Find the Culprit, if that matters

[vast bane]

this new image is not the same thing

you rolled 1 twice

also are you sure its not auto damaging?

I see a bunch of dead tokens

[soft basalt]

Sorry, I should have updated that the card deleting it seems to be intermitent

[vast bane]

personally I use the damage card, cause its easier to undo things

[soft basalt]

I do, those are from before the update

Looking for a way to record the screen

[vast bane]

I can't replicate your missing attacks, as for damage, turn on the damage card so you can see the damage application and resistances/immunities

[soft basalt]

All in one video:

aaannnd the file is too big. once second

[scarlet gale]

You didn't update your 5e version did you?

[soft basalt]

No, left it 2.0.3

Imgur is taking a minute. I don't know if this will let you view it in browser or not, but: https://file.io/GNbygoQBfcFe

[tribal hill]

What do I change here to have the token this effect is on cause disadvantage to all that attack it?

[soft basalt]

I did have remove buttons after roll turned on, but I just disabled that and it made no difference.

[scarlet gale]

1

[tribal hill]

thamks love u

[soft basalt]

Welp, my game is starting. Thanks for the help, and I'll check back in later to see if anyone recognized the issue.

[tribal hill]

hmmmm, do I need About Time to have effects actually last rounds/turns 🤔

[violet meadow]

times up

[tribal hill]

Uhhh is there an @addresses list for stuff

[scarlet gale]

See the pins in #dnd5e

[gilded yacht]

There are quite a few breakages in 2.1.0 for midi-qol/dae/itemcollection. I'm going to work at pushing a fix for those in the next couple of days.

[tribal hill]

hmmm... am having aneurysm, what is the flat dex bonus' address, I failed finding it and making it myself by doing (#-10)/2

wait

Yeah ok I managed to miss it but not the 5th time

[tribal hill]

Oh right, actual thing: how do I make an attack request a STR save upon a hit?

[scarlet gale]

Same way you always do? Have the feature / item have a save tied to it.

In the saving throw field set it to something other than blank and it will also request a save after the attack.

[tribal hill]

Ah but I want this to be a toggle, not a regular weapon

Like a sticker to add onto an attack, if I click it on, it'll request the str save upon the hit landing

[inland tendon]

Any way to use Midi/DAE to automate advantage on saving throws against specific conditions?

[spice kraken]

Probably need a macro. What's the use case

[inland tendon]

Racial features that give advantage on saving throws against fear, things like that

[spice kraken]

Definitely macro or WS territory. Things like that I just handle manually

[inland tendon]

Might be a stupid question, but what is WS?

[coarse mesa]

world script – basically a macro you inject into startup so it modifies something automatically

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Macros/Mechanics/Condition Resistance/Chris-ConditionResistance.js

Word script macro. Only works on effects that use macro.ce to apply conditions.

[inland tendon]

thanks I'll check it out

[scarlet gale]

Use a flag called flags.world.CR.conditionName | Override | 1 as a passive effect on the actor that should have resistance

[spice kraken]

Overwrite? Is that a v10 flag?

[scarlet gale]

Override

Sorry, on mobile

[spice kraken]

I feel that

[tidal stone]

Hey all, so there was an update to the DnD5e rule set. Today midi qol isn't auto taking damage away. Setting still show it selected but I have to manually take off damage. Anyone know a fix?

[spice kraken]

#1010273821401555087 message

[dry dragon]

Thanks for all you do!

[rotund oyster]

So I am assuming everyone has issues with applying damage and effects?

[spice kraken]

^

[rotund oyster]

So the best is to wait it out and let the tech wizards do their magic

lol

[gentle sluice]

Reposting this to here since i was told this would be a better place

[vast bane]

Not sure why they sent you here but this would be the setup:

change the feet

[spice kraken]

No

Enemy, not creature

[gentle sluice]

no actually that's what i want

[spice kraken]

And you only need this

[gentle sluice]

i didnt realise there was a creature tag

[vast bane]

Deals damage to everything in the area

Special excludes the user

[spice kraken]

Ohh, I misread the last part

[gentle sluice]

thanks guys!

[vast bane]

if you don't put special, then it will target the stomper, if you put enemy it will exclude allies

if anyones curious my snippet is from turn undead

[vast bane]

@slate rose What is broken about your Midi?

You didn't really clarify what is broken, but it does sound like you updated to 2.1 dnd5e, if you launch a world in 2.1, that world is broken with most automation modules till those mod authors update to 2.1 dnd5e. The only way you can fix that world is if you backed up before you updated, you can't just delete 2.1 and instal 2.0.3 and try to run the world.

[spice kraken]

Moto, why are you talking to yourself??? /j

[vast bane]

I had to look around my room cause I thought you could hear that I talk while I type...

[spice kraken]

I am everywhere

[vast bane]

I think I'm seeing a bug yall reported a while back. My paladins sacred weapon is not expiring after an hour went by, its set to 60 seconds duration but no combat rounds listed and it was used during combat.

The dfreds flanking ae's also aren't is this new in 23+ midi?

[spice kraken]

At least on v9 mine expire with effects that started in combat and time finished outside

[vast bane]

I can either delete them, or set a special duration to end when combat ends but they seem to not expire now

though the flanking ae's in dfreds were setup wrong, they have no durations

[coarse mesa]

It's a known bug according to bugbear, Tim is aware of it. AEs that shift from combat to realtime won't expire properly

We've been seeing it a lot

[vast bane]

I'm only just now noticing it and I've been on 10.0.22 till this past week so....is it a 23+ bug?

[coarse mesa]

I think so, yeah

But it might not be a midi thing, since Tim just updated that – maybe Times Up or DAE

[vast bane]

I wonder if its a times up bug?

not that it matters, since they are all tposney

[spice kraken]

Or About time/SC

[vast bane]

oooh good point

well it can't be about time cause I don't have that, but it could be SC related I have that

[spice kraken]

I just double checked and it works in v9. So ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[coarse mesa]

Just watching the stream now... Tim's character 'Seducil' 😂

[spice kraken]

Were either of those 2/3 modules updated for v10?

[vast bane]

I agree with lukas though, its intermittent

its hard to replicate

[coarse mesa]

All of them yeah

[spice kraken]

Well rip

[vast bane]

its not too rough of a bug just noticing it now though

[spice kraken]

Y'all have fun troubleshooting. I'll laugh maniacally in v9

[vast bane]

I wonder if its related to automated stuff that have compatibility warnings in them cause sacred weapon isn't updated properly in v10 yet

[coarse mesa]

We saw it with good old Bless... all had to delete it manually, more than once

[vast bane]

See thats how I know its intermittent lol, the bless faded but not sacred weapon lol

[tribal hill]

god what does this mean

[vast bane]

I sense a dnd5e 2.1.1 in your world

[tribal hill]

is it really the latest 5e version

[spice kraken]

Look at the pins

[vast bane]

did you really update an hours old system?

[tribal hill]

Well, wasn't me :) boss man just said "oh new update" clicks

[spice kraken]

Did boss man backup before updating?

[vast bane]

Lets take this moment to make it a learning process, when you see changes to foundry software and systems, you should always first backup before you take the plunge, but personally I would not update till your main automation modules say they are compatible with it. Midi and dae are indeed not.

Personally I would setup a test bed version of foundry to fiddle with systems and foundry builds and not adversely affect my live worlds for my players

[coarse mesa]

I've been keeping a spare install handy just for trying out the new shinies without jeopardising my main game

[vast bane]

Yeah with systems and foundry builds you have to setup an alternative full install, I juts do node.js installs since I self host.

[tribal hill]

Well they weren't all that onto fully automating shit I was just fucking with stuff for myself, ah well 🤷‍♂️

[spice kraken]

Keep in mind there's a good chance other modules are broken too (tidy5e sheet for example)

[vast bane]

They should probably revert as we don't know when midi will update to 2.1.1 nor dae. I get the feeling its gonna be a project for some mod authors

I think tidy just dropped an update didn't it?

[tribal hill]

Yeah tidy 5e was ducked too on one side but not much else

[spice kraken]

Don't see anything in #package-releases

[coarse mesa]

Not that I noticed, but 2.1.1 fixed some character sheet stuff that got broken in 2.1.0

[spice kraken]

Yeah, ++++++++++++++

[vast bane]

My early morning brain saw Tidy and thought dndbeyond

[spice kraken]

You mean the other way around?

[vast bane]

depends on where I was looking

its also likely that any of those dnd5e modules in package releases after the 2.1.0 are not 2.1.0 updates

I know Monk releases his on a schedule so that MATT likely could have issues still

[last mural]

Small side question as it interests me: i'm still quite new to foundry. How often do 5e system updates happen, and what about foundry Updates (v9 to v10 and the like )?

[coarse mesa]

he did a MATT update earlier today but he probably hasn't tested with 2.1.1 yet

[spice kraken]

Not crazy often on system updates (2.0.3 > 2.1.0). Even longer for foundry releases (v9 > v10)

Basically once the devs are done working on what they were set to, release is sent out

[coarse mesa]

Foundry main releases have slowed down to 1-2 per year from what I can tell. Unsure about dnd5e maybe 3-4 decent sized ones per year?

[vast bane]

I think 2.1.0 was an abnormality right, this ones very bulky isn't it?

[coarse mesa]

Indeed

[vast bane]

I've had foundry for 1 year and I've seen 2 major dnd5e releases and 1 major foundry build though build 291 for some reason had a significant amount of module breakages, but nothing compared to 9>10 update

[spice kraken]

I think I joined at dnd 1.5.7?

Whatever was around April

[vast bane]

I consider 1.6.0 the last significant dnd update as 2.0.3 while having stuff, was kinda forced in the v10 update anyway

[last mural]

I see. As a module hoarder myself, I'm a bit scared when people are talking about new releases 😅

[vast bane]

I came from roll20, I'm scarred for life, I will cling to stable builds till Bugbear beats me into submission.

[spice kraken]

I'm still surprised you went to v10 before me

[vast bane]

I blame it entirely on Zhell

His modules are too good

I really really really wanted DAE's macro.createitem and bab/vae

also the new automated animations was pretty dope

[spice kraken]

I really want the abilitySave in OTs 😭

[scarlet gale]

Yep, v9 missing too many neat modules now

[vast bane]

yep thats another one

Dfreds effect panel was an ok bandaid till v10 but bab has nothing out there in v9 to compare to

[scarlet gale]

You can probably make a sudo ability save OT in v9 stuff effect macros

[vast bane]

yeah but I think he stopped updating it there so we may not have the full suite of hooks in v9 em?

[spice kraken]

I got this commissioned as a way around it
https://foundryvtt.com/packages/fail-save-lmrtfy-midi

[scarlet gale]

Yea, v9 doesn't have as many EM triggers

But I know it has the combat ones

[spice kraken]

IIRC v10 added 7/10 hooks Zhell uses

[vast bane]

just reminding me of the new trigger he just dropped for rests

now to think of use cases for that...

[scarlet gale]

Could kinda do that before with DAE special expiry times and effect deletion macros

[violet meadow]

Who else here thinks that Item Uses could be a good addition to have per combat turn or round triggers and not only Long/Short/Day and what the other one? 😄

[vast bane]

Just use recharge

recharge on 1

are you trying to make sneak attack lol?

[violet meadow]

It would make much sense.
Also new Babonus optional thingies

Why do you need to have an effect macro to give back the limited use

And what do you mean by "recharge"?

[vast bane]

if you want an item to regain a charge every round, the recharge feature in dnd5e if you set it to recharge on 1, will be a once per round usage

all the abilities that dnd5e helpers used to automate the d6 roll for on turn start, that feature

only you are bastardizing it to recharge every round but useable once

My middle name is Janky...just sayin

[violet meadow]

For Items which are features though. Not weapon attacks as far as I can see

[vast bane]

I wonder if you could put the recharge in an item that doesn't have it available via a macro

[violet meadow]

Yeah I will play some more with that. Probably doable with the new baboons

[vast bane]

but recharge doesn't solve the per turn thing

[violet meadow]

only per round

[vast bane]

yeah and technically, we're getting nuancd here but technically recharge happens on their next turn not the top of the round

[violet meadow]

Yeah I see what you mean

That's why, limited uses per combat turn 😄

[vast bane]

EM has a every turn trigger so you could EM it

[violet meadow]

Yeah but still one more step

[vast bane]

did we ever get that option in dae?

or is dae still just every source turn

I'll answer myself:

Its fine though, we all use EM anyway lol

[rancid tide]

I saw that warpgate.mutate doesn't work on another actor if you're a player, is there a way to make it work?

[violet meadow]

It does. It will most likely prompt the GM to accept the mutation based on your settings

[vast bane]

it won't work if a GM isn't logged in

[rancid tide]

It does say something about setting

[vast bane]

but that is the case for alot of modules

[rancid tide]

It was in the test

[rancid tide]

A lot in like

What is a lot of modules?

[vast bane]

Well i can think of about 5 modules in the midi meta that would fail to function without a dm logged in, hell sometimes modules fail if the DM's not looking at the same scene

Item piles, MEJ, Midi I believe, dae, warpgate maybe as well

alot of stuff leverage the logged in DM to pull things off

but regardless like bugbear said you probably have a setting that is wrong

[rancid tide]

Okay thanks

The player user get this warning

[vast bane]

oh thats the create tokens permission probably

[violet meadow]

You need to set your players permission

[vast bane]

yeah theres a couple permissions in there that warpgate needs active

create and edit tokens I think is the permission

[rancid tide]

But if I'm making a module using this macro I can't expect every user to do the same

[vast bane]

You are making a module that leverages warpgate?

Fwiw, arbron has the same issue

[rancid tide]

Well I can avoid using commands from warpgate but since there are features that spawn tokens

[vast bane]

and thats a module that leverages warpgate

[rancid tide]

I'm making an homebrew class, and I need warpgate together with other modules to make it automatic

[vast bane]

the pitfall of making stuff utilizing midi and other automation is that you are at mercy of the variable options available from all the modules you make required for it. Just look at the Hex premade that this channel was talking about last night, it is really complex and uses like 5 modules, pretty sure I can't even use it cause my midi settings are unique

[rancid tide]

True but if you can't do otherwise?

Like I would like to go vanilla but I don't even know where to start

[vast bane]

Just put caveats in your readme for it, thats why midi's readme is pretty long

in the optional name macro section he puts a caveat for anyone not using fast forward that one of the optionals doesn't work

so put a caveat in your readme that if you use the module you must give permissions to players for create/edit tokens

[rancid tide]

What's a caveat? Sorry I'm not a native English speaker

[vast bane]

technically I think warpgate already requires that permission change, so all you are doing is reminding people to do what warpgate asks

caveat is like a reminder of a detail

"don't forget to do this"

[rancid tide]

Okay thanks

I'm not wasting my time am I? Like I'm putting a lot of work into this class, but idk if it's a good idea as you said to be dependant on those modules

[vast bane]

I'm not a module author but beware not to run afoul of copyrights with dnd5e. If its a spellcaster you can't do non srd spells.

You can if you remove the descriptions technically I think but they still give you that death stare when you post it

[rancid tide]

It's fully homebrew, it doesn't use anything outside of the SRD, thanks for the tip

[vast bane]

I'd probably ask in module development though Bugbears probably in the same boat as you and probably has the best source of advice for your situation as he is currently the caretaker for midi srd

The Author of MASIF is another but hes not active here at all

[rancid tide]

Honestly as time goes on I feel less and less interested in making it a module

[gilded yacht]

I think, that if a 60 second duration effect is applied during combat it gets converted to 10 rounds and will only expire as the combat tracker advances.

[gilded yacht]

times-up/dae and how exiting combat works.

[gilded yacht]

midi should update for 2.1.1 by the weekend - just going through the broken bits now. DAE/itemcollection also need to be updated - so there's quite a long list of fixes to be looked at.

[vast bane]

something weird has happened with the macro.createitem key with midi 23 and 24 and I'm not sure what is going on with it. Either it duplicates them twice or it kills them outright on attuneables that apply it. I wrote an issue and shared the test item, it seems to be most prevelant on npcs.

the duplication of the second set occurs when you click the close button on the item's details window cause on npcs you have to edit the item to attune/equip.

[gilded yacht]

Once I get through the 2.1.1 issues I'll have a look at the issue tracker. I don't think that issue is related to 2.1.0/1, but could be wrong. I've certainly not tested macro.createItem in 2.1.0/1 but will.

[vast bane]

I wasn't on 2.1, its a 2.0.3 thing but its dropped up since I left 10.0.22 midi

[gilded yacht]

Will have a look - I can't remember anything changing in macro.createItem, but my memory is failing (curse of being old)

[near sequoia]

Is there a way to get my spell rolls to show the spell description as well, and not just the name? In case it messes things up: I have midi fast-forwarding attacks, and combining the chat cards when damage is rolled.

[vast bane]

When you click the name does it expand?

[near sequoia]

in chat? no

[thorny solar]

You will want to change this setting.

Its in Misc

[near sequoia]

thanks!
I do have that set to "Details: PC Only", and I also think this is the correct dnd5e setting:

[thorny solar]

Are you wanting spells shown for NPCs too?

Or do you want them to always show when used, without needing to click on the card to expand it?

[near sequoia]

I just want it for PCs. And I don't mind having it always shown or clicking on the card to expand it. At the moment, there's no description in the card. Just title, attack/damage rolls, and some of the spell components.
... and now that you've both asked about it, I realized this is unintended behavior, and I think it might be due to "Compact DndBeyond 5e Character Sheet"...

[thorny solar]

Oh dear.

At that point, check the item itself.

[vast bane]

why do you want them showing

Cause there are ways to get the info in a less spammy way in chat

[near sequoia]

haha, well, one person's spam is another person's preference. Having the spell descriptions available to toggle in chat is always useful 🙂

[vast bane]

for me I just use Token Action hud and if you right click you get the item

[near sequoia]

and no, it's definitely not the item, tried with a lot of items. This "info" roll seems to do just spell description with the expand-collapse behavior you both mentioned and seemed to expect, but the "standard roll" (which is the behavior when clicking the spell in the character sheet, without expanding it) just shows title & rolls.

ah, well, I didn't like Token Action HUD for other reasons

[vast bane]

I dunno what that standard roll thing is but I never use that

hover over the icon and roll that

[near sequoia]

yeah, nevermind, I just tried the standard 5e sheet. Same problem, I can't expand/collapse spell descriptions in chat. And it works if I disable midi-qol.

[vast bane]

why not just turn the setting off in midi so you can?

turn on every players collapse setting and tell them to be honest and keep things hidden

[near sequoia]

what do you mean? I thought I have to have this ^ setting turned on for descriptions to be show-able

[vast bane]

No, you have it where only the players stuff shows, are you rolling on the players account?

[near sequoia]

oh. I guess that fixed it, I needed it set to NPC+PC. Does "PC" here not mean the "Player Character" actor type?

[vast bane]

PC stands for player character

I understand that theres dual meanings but literally its not wrong

you do realize that when you roll as the players actors you roll with the DM's rules in the DM tab in workflow settings, so its already established hes going by the role not the characters ownership