MidiQOL

[scarlet gale]

No need to set it in the effect this way

[violet meadow]

I haven't followed the conversation. Why would they be incompatible?

[molten solar]

Lukas has a module updating game time every second which causes VAE to refresh

[coarse mesa]

I suspect it’s Times Up

[violet meadow]

Ah that is simple calendar 99%

[coarse mesa]

I’ll have a fiddle when I get home

[scarlet gale]

hold on

replace item

with origin

[covert mason]

So I don't put that in the On Effect Creation macro?

[scarlet gale]

updated

[coarse mesa]

Didn’t have this issue with DFreds Effects Panel but that only showed an update to duration each time you hover, not real-time

[violet meadow]

#1010273821401555087 message

[coarse mesa]

That looks promising

[violet meadow]

Just play with these settings to check

[scarlet gale]

let spellDC;
let scaling = origin.system.save.scaling;
if (scaling === 'spell') {
    spellDC = origin.parent.system.attributes.spelldc;
} else {
    spellDC = origin.parent.system.abilities[scaling].dc;
}
let save = await actor.rollAbilitySave('dex');
if (save.total >= spellDC) return;
await game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect(
    {
        'effectName': 'Prone',
        'uuid': actor.uuid,
        'origin': origin.uuid,
        'overlay': false
    }
);

Try this @covert mason

[covert mason]

Awesome, thank you! Do I still need this in the effects?

[scarlet gale]

nope

Technically, you'll likely want to flag the token if it's already done this roll this turn to account for going in and out of the template

But it's unlikely to come up often

[covert mason]

All righty, so I can use this in the on-turn-start effect macro, too?

[scarlet gale]

yes

[covert mason]

[scarlet gale]

I haven't tested it

but it should work

[covert mason]

I'll give it a whirl

That'd be-....
On Combat Turn Starting?

[scarlet gale]

yep

[covert mason]

Oh, I noticed that this has two effects. The dex save or fall prone, and the con save or lose concentration.

[covert mason]

Looks like it's giving me this error.

[scarlet gale]

gimme a moment

need to check what the origin actually shows up as

it should just be the item

[violet meadow]

Use something like ```js
fromUuidSync(origin).parent...

[scarlet gale]

Effect macros has the origin already set as the actual thing

it's not the uuid

[violet meadow]

Then it's just missing a parent on the 1st call

[molten solar]

You're all assuming the effect has an origin

[scarlet gale]

Midi should have it always set

Not sure if AA sets it however

[molten solar]

Sure seems null tho

[scarlet gale]

@covert mason Is this effect being applied from AA?

[molten solar]

That's EM setting it as null because there's no Document found through the effect's origin

[violet meadow]

Freaking phone screens. Too small for this

[covert mason]

Aye. It's an active aura effect applied to a template. This is what I have in the Spell's on-use item macro.

if (!game.modules.get("advanced-macros")?.active) { ui.notifications.error("Advanced Macros is not enabled"); return }
if(args[0].tag === "OnUse"){
AAhelpers.applyTemplate(args)

}```

[scarlet gale]

Could you throw a console.log(origin) at the top.

If it's null we'll just have to do it the other way

[covert mason]

@scarlet galeTop of this Item Macro?

[coarse mesa]

@violet meadow did you get to the bottom of AEs not being removed on expiry… or is it something Tim is working on?

[scarlet gale]

top of the effect macro

[covert mason]

Or the effect macro?

[violet meadow]

Tim said that this is a current bug to be fixed

[coarse mesa]

Fantastic, thanks. I was wondering if it was VAE

jk jk

[scarlet gale]

let spellDC = actor.flags.world?.spell?.sleetStorm?.dc;
if (!spellDC) return;
let save = await actor.rollAbilitySave('dex');
if (save.total < spellDC) {
    await game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect(
        {
            'effectName': 'Prone',
            'uuid': actor.uuid,
            'origin': null,
            'overlay': false
        }
    );
}
let concentrating = actor.effects.find(eff => eff.label === 'Concentrating');
if (!concentrating) return;
let save2 = await actor.rollAbilitySave('con');
if (save2.total < spellDC) {
    await game.dfreds.effectInterface.removeEffect(
        {
            'effectName': 'Concentrating',
            'uuid': actor.uuid
        }
    );
}```

In the effect, have a key set to: `flags.world.spell.sleetStorm.dc | Overwrite | @attributes.spelldc`

[scarlet gale]

that' a screenshot of the code

go back to the console tab

[molten solar]

It's above

And it's null

[covert mason]

Yup

[scarlet gale]

Try this then

We're back to doing it the other way

[molten solar]

You have origin.uuid

[scarlet gale]

oh true

2 sec

[molten solar]

Could also just set the origin...

[scarlet gale]

Yep

I think we can just set it to null

double checking the documentation for CE API

[molten solar]

I mean, in the effect. Where it is now.

[scarlet gale]

updated

AA not giving the effects an origin is weird

But having an origin for the prone condition won't really matter here

If anything that's actually a good thing. I think midi would remove prone if the origin was set to the item and the spell ended.

[covert mason]

Ayyy, it works!

This is perfect. Now I can use it for other spells that do similar things. 😄

[scarlet gale]

Technically

[covert mason]

Well, as long as I change a few things.

[scarlet gale]

You still need to account for entering the template for the first time on a turn

[covert mason]

Aye

[scarlet gale]

You could do a on effect creation macro

literally just copy and paste the same macro

I would also check the combat tracker and make sure you're not doing it on the same turn

[covert mason]

Looks like it all seems to work as intended

[scarlet gale]

You would get a doubled up check if the person left the area then returned on the same turn

[covert mason]

Ah, that's true

[scarlet gale]

Not likely to often happen

but something to be mindful of

You could set a flag on the token to the current round and turn and compare them

[violet meadow]

#1010273821401555087 message

I think this one had the checks needed

[scarlet gale]

My cloudkill does something similar too

[vast bane]

How do I fix this bug again, I think it has something to do with race conditions or a broken flag? hes got a bajillion DR's

[scarlet gale]

I mean that depends

If you look at the actor data

Does it have DR set there

[vast bane]

I'm cleaning up some old legacy ways of doing advantage reminder stuff and maybe that will clear him

[vast bane]

what do I type in console to see all the flags on him? _token?

[scarlet gale]

Probably _token.actor.flags

[vast bane]

Yeah I dunno how to fix this

[mint nexus]

if i have automatic attack and damage rolls on is there a way for it to automatically do all of the eldritch blast rolls for me

[vast bane]

This is all I see for his resistances but he also has his rage resistances going somehow even though rage isn't on

[scarlet gale]

Could make a new actor and just drag everything over to it

[vast bane]

ok so when I disabled the two items that give the psychic/force/thunder, it turns them all off but psychic, force, and thunder 🤔

[scarlet gale]

There another effect applying it?

[vast bane]

it was a stupid badly made potion of resistance gah

suspended effects man, they do weird things in midi

[scarlet gale]

Why would a potion ever need a suspended effect

[coarse mesa]

one hell of a potion

[vast bane]

the dnd5e srd items have that and the player must have dragged it instead of using the modified ones

[scarlet gale]

ah

I pretty extensively hide all compendiums I don't want players grabbing from

What's your full macro you're using?

https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/blob/main/macros/spells/chromaticOrb.js

This is a good example of a spell that changes the damage roll with a dialog.

[last mural]

@scarlet gale it's that one currently, minus the item.update line. Not at the PC anymore so cant really test more things out :(

[scarlet gale]

Gotcha

You shouldn't need to update the damage parts either

Once you start looking at it again

[vast bane]

yeah I've cleared out everything and I think that potion had adverse effects on the resistances section on the sheet, they are all still there but now I can delete them all

[last mural]

But still without those lines, the damage won't apply to the target token. I checked the damageRoll and the total matched the value I gave as dialog input.
The chatcard had "0 necrotic" as damage, and this was also rolled before the dialog was finished. So something is not properly awaited i guess?

[scarlet gale]

Yea

You're missing an await somewhere

I'm not super familiar with how you're doing dialogs so I couldn't point out where

[last mural]

Neither am I 😂

This is the first dialog I am stealing

[scarlet gale]

I just use warpgate dialogs and let that module make it for me

[last mural]

Alright, will check the warpgate Wiki in the meantime then!

[vast bane]

this item requires attunement and equipped to apply the ae, and for some reason it is the source of my problems with resistances on this actor somehow, I dunno wtf is wrong with it, I guess I'm remaking it. darkvision

its gotta be the actor somehow this is so frustrating I hate havin to rebuild a players character

[covert mason]

@scarlet gale Say if I took your setup you just showed me, and added damage on a failed save in the vain of, say, Black Tentacles:
When a creature enters the affected area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, the creature must succeed on a Dexterity saving throw 3d6 bludgeoning damage and be restrained by the tentacles until the spell ends. A creature that starts its turn in the area and is already restrained by the tentacles takes 3d6 bludgeoning damage.
How would I set that up?

[molten solar]

Disabled all modules yet?

[vast bane]

yeah that was my first though since its a core flag

I think hes just got too much junk in him

I swear tposney showed me how to fix this at some point a very long time ago

Wow found it what a scavenger hunt this was, this is why its great that tposney is a man of few words so hes easier to find his solutions lol
#modules message

has to do with a glitch with how midi messes with the window for resistances

its the same actor too, I wonder what causes this

With the changes to DR in 2.0.3 his solution above no longer fixes this

[coarse mesa]

Time to drag stuff over and flush that actor like Chris suggested?

[vast bane]

I dunno I fixed the all resistance shit, that was a bad potion, but the tooltip is spammed

I don't know how to fix him, its not a gamebreaking problem, its just annoying

I got it so that when I disable the effects his dr's clear

[last mural]

In case you wonder : If I understood correctly, the js new Dialog().render
is not async, I have to wrap it in a Promise first. If this wont work I will probably come back and ask for help with warpgate dialogs 😅

[vast bane]

the problem is I can never see the tooltip right

[coarse mesa]

Could try exporting that actor as a json and searching for those keywords, see what junk is in his trunk

You could even do some json surgery and reimport (as a new actor don’t overwrite) if you’re feeling good with that

[vast bane]

nothing looks out of the ordinary trying a second copy

[coarse mesa]

If the actor looks ok might just be a weird midi bug you’ve uncovered

[vast bane]

its like the ae is applying twice to the actor somehow

but I only see one of them

import also has the glitch

[coarse mesa]

Did you try fiddling around with the stacking settings? Might help

[molten solar]

Just use Dialog.wait

[vast bane]

he has no overlapping values, unless seperate values can mess with each other?

one item gives thunder/psychic, and the other gives poison

[coarse mesa]

Yeah just a shot in the dark

[molten solar]

Stupid question: did you try toggling off the resistances through the sheet?

[vast bane]

yeah it changed in dnd5e 2.0.3

you can't toggle them off now

that window is different

[molten solar]

... the fuck are you on about

[vast bane]

when I disable the effect, they aren't there

[molten solar]

aaaaaand what does the effect look like?

[vast bane]

wait it gets weirder:

I smell a tidy5e bug

[molten solar]

No, that looks correct.

[vast bane]

can't uncheck something that isn't checked?

[last mural]

How does it work exactly? Just

new Dialog().wait

Or do i need the .render somewhere?

[coarse mesa]

What’s on the effects tab?

[molten solar]

await Dialog.wait({all the stuff you usually put in a Dialog});

Slap Dialog.wait in the console (F12) exactly like that, to see the function.

[vast bane]

Iron jaw and dwarven resilience being the ae's with system.traits.dr.values

[molten solar]

Why in the seven shades of Earl Grey Tea Hot on my lap do you have this many effects.

Brutal Critical? Why? Toss that in Special Traits.

Unarmored Defense?!
No wonder you got effects acting up.

[vast bane]

Its a flag /shrug

[molten solar]

It's a flag. In special traits!

[vast bane]

that unarmored defense toggles on and off when they unequip its actually pretty neat

[coarse mesa]

This looks fairly normal to me 👀

[vast bane]

yeah this is actually one of the more tame actors

[molten solar]

I just had a look through my players. One has 2 effects. One has 1. The rest have 0.

[coarse mesa]

Dwarven Resilience is probably the most yeetworthy because you can’t unequip dwarf

[vast bane]

yeah but you also don't use midi

nah

dwarven resilience is ar stuff mostly

[coarse mesa]

Ah true

[molten solar]

Yeah if need be, I create the effects in an item or in an Item Macro

[coarse mesa]

Fair

[vast bane]

it just seems like these two active effects replicate on the actor

if I keep iron jaw off, then I see 2 poisons only

which is the dwarven resilience

I tried dragging it out from the features compendium and it still replicates on the actor

[coarse mesa]

But you’re not getting 1/4 damage, it’s just the tooltip?

[vast bane]

yeah just tooltip

But I actually use that tooltip otherwise I wouldn't care

[coarse mesa]

And if you drag those features to another actor it’s fine

[vast bane]

yeah, I even have 2 dwarves in the party

only the barb has the duplicate poison

[coarse mesa]

If it was me, to satisfy my curiosity I’d export them both as jsons and see what’s different

You don’t have any funky world scripts or actor onUse macros in play?

[vast bane]

hes got a crusher actor on use on him and my world scripts are....

[scarlet gale]

Midi apply damage function

[vast bane]

I dunno, I guess I shouldn't care about this, hes a barbarian I'll never seen all of the DR's anyway in the tooltip

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/blob/main/Items/Potions/Potion of Poison/Effect Macro - Turn Starting.js

I do something like that here.

Check if an effect called restrained exists on the actor and if so apply damage

[covert mason]

So perhaps I'd format the OnCreation and End of Turn macro like this?

[scarlet gale]

You probably don't want to delete the effect

[covert mason]

Oh, nope.

[scarlet gale]

That's there is my example due to how potion of poison works

Damage doesn't need to be in an object

It should just be a string

This also won't take into account magical resistance. You may need a midi dummy workflow

[scarlet gale]

Now you're not rolling the formula

[covert mason]

[scarlet gale]

And your setting targets to a potentially found effect

(not what you want)

[covert mason]

Looking through previous examples of the MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage function...
I'm kinda stumped

[coarse mesa]

I have a feeling these settings are busted... if you change the update frequency it actually changes the game seconds per real life seconds. I'd be curious if this happens for you? When you have a chance to look, no rush

(for now I've stopped the VAE info panel from pulsing by turning off the visibility transition CSS... can see the effect counting down in realtime still 👍 )

[scarlet gale]

let damageDice = '3d6[necrotic]';
damageRoll = await new Roll(damageDice).evaluate({async: true})
damageRoll.toMessage({
    rollMode: 'roll',
    speaker: {alias: name},
    flavor: 'Change This'
});
damage = damageRoll.total;
let damageType = 'necrotic';
let targets = [token];
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage(
    [
        {
            damage: damage,
            type: damageType
        }
    ],
    damage,
    new Set(targets),
    null,
    null
);```
@covert mason

[covert mason]

Ahh, so it was almost there.

[covert mason]

So this should damage any targets that have been restrained on turn start or on effect creation?

[scarlet gale]

What are you doing with damageTargets

erase that line and the line under it

put

[covert mason]

Oh. Is that not how to make sure that only restrained targets get damaged?

[scarlet gale]

let targetEffect = token.actor.effects.find(eff => eff.label === 'Restrained');
if (!targetEffect) return;```

[scarlet gale]

Looks good, but you'll want to update the flavor in the message part

I think that should otherwise work

Should still probably be setup as a dummy workflow so magical resistance can be taken into account

[covert mason]

Good idea 😅

[scarlet gale]

If you have the DDB importer it looks like Evard’s Black Tentacles has an automation already.

Looks overly complicated however

[covert mason]

I could never quite figure out how to import spells from DDB importer

[scarlet gale]

Go over to the compendium tab and hit DDB muncher

Then click spells and then spell munch

It'll throw everything it generates into a compendium called DDB Spells

[violet meadow]

I think u r right

[covert mason]

It looks like it's creating multiple instances of the Restrained condition upon the start of each turn when an affected creature fails

[scarlet gale]

That might just be a visual bug

[coarse mesa]

Cool I’ll let the dev know

[scarlet gale]

See if there is actually multiple restrained effects on the actor

[violet meadow]

I did 5 secs instead of update once per 1 sec and it just added 5 secs per

[scarlet gale]

strange

But not surprising, the macro doesn't appear to too modern

[coarse mesa]

Which means everyone using simple calendar probably has time updating once per second. Zhell was making me feel like an edge case

[violet meadow]

@coarse mesa the hover VAE rerendering is also observable

I don't remember the default SC settings re updating intervals tbh 🤔

[coarse mesa]

I never changed defaults and this is a new v10 build

Not upgraded from v9

[violet meadow]

I see!

so I guess it is what it is 😄

[coarse mesa]

If you want that pulsing gone I have a one line css quick fix

I do like seeing the seconds ticking down 👌

[stark siren]

Confused here while using Dynamic Active Effects and Convenient effects and Midi. Trying to make an effect that applies frightened when you fail a wisdom throw, and then you have another chance at that wisdom saving throw each turn. In the "Duration" tab, there's a special duration that states "Expires if the char rolls wisdom save throw: success" but that doesnt seem to actually work. Picture of what im referencing if anyone can help
https://i.gyazo.com/46ee808e1d6b9530e7b9e3edc2b2b2ca.png

[violet meadow]

Yeah that's good! I hadn't noticed the pulsin before though. Probably missed that and didn't use it that much.

[coarse mesa]

section.visual-active-effects .effect-item:hover .effect-info {
    transition: none;
}

the icon still pulses, kinda like that

[scarlet gale]

You probably want an overtime midi flag

[violet meadow]

As Chris mentioned OT midi flags. Also check the pins (pinned messages) in this channel

The 1st one

[coarse mesa]

I think I've mentioned before, we have an idiot bard in the party casting Light on us constantly... I'm forever peering at VAE to see when it's going to wear off

[scarlet gale]

@violet meadow I don't suppose you know of any example macros that use a Dummy Workflow?

Searching the function here isn't bringing up anything

[violet meadow]

Hmm I was trying to use a Dummy Workflow to conditionally execute something quite some time ago. I have a vague recollection and I could try to find it
But yeah examples are non existent afaik

[scarlet gale]

Looking at the function makes me think I need to pass it item data

So that's annoying

[violet meadow]

What's you doing?

[scarlet gale]

Trying to make a generic function for myself that applies midi workflow logic. I want to pass it a set attack roll or save DC.

[stark siren]

went with how the pinned messages did it, however it only apllies "damage over time" in the chat and doesnt actually check any roles. pics below
https://i.gyazo.com/4c887557aa6ab926d43818e0080ec78d.png
https://i.gyazo.com/732b8c11596a6baa4136872fafc9bf20.png

[scarlet gale]

So presumably I just need to make an item that only exists in the macro

[violet meadow]

Just clone an existing item. Oof I will try to find out what I was going for my dummy one

[scarlet gale]

Yea, I've done that before

[violet meadow]

are you in combat?

[stark siren]

yep

[violet meadow]

Do you want to export your item and DM it to me to take a look? Much faster to check that way what you're trying to do

[stark siren]

still new at this, how do i export it lmfao

[vast bane]

actionsave seems wrong

what is the ability you are making

[violet meadow]

Drag the item onto the Item's Directory on the right Foundry sidebar, right click and export

[vast bane]

cause pretty sure fear or cause fear is already made and you can cut andpaste

either in midi samples or midi srd

its basically hold person only frightened instead

[violet meadow]

actionSave is OK @vast bane
When true Midi won't roll the save automatically, but will let the player roll a save if needed/wanted

[vast bane]

I mean what feature would induce an action save for frightened/wis saves

I can see it for grapple/restrain removals

I am assuming its an action to remove is what that means

[violet meadow]

Yeah pretty much

[vast bane]

pretty sure they can just copy hold person and change the status to frightened

[stark siren]

https://i.gyazo.com/23e17799636078d681d4b6e79165a975.png

[covert mason]

await warpgate.mutate(token.document, {token: {light: {color: "#6fff00", dim: 5, alpha: 0.5, animation: {type: "ghost", speed: 3, intensity: 1}}}},{},{name:"Radiance"});

game.dfreds.effectInterface.removeEffect({'effectName': 'Invisible','uuid': targetActor.uuid});```
For an ``On Effect Creation`` macro. The mutation seems to work, but it doesn't remove any Invisibility effects.

[uncut rampart]

How do I make a macro look for the frightened condition on an actor?
(Trying to make aura of conquest)

[molten solar]

Is the effect actually called that? Exactly that?

await warpgate.mutate(token.document, {token: {light: {color: "#6fff00", dim: 5, alpha: 0.5, animation: {type: "ghost", speed: 3, intensity: 1}}}},{},{name:"Radiance"});
await actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Invisible")?.delete();

[scarlet gale]

The CE method won't remove it if it's not a CE weirdly enough. So Zhell's way is likely better.

[covert mason]

Perfect!

[molten solar]

You also do not need to worry about sockets. EM will attempt to call the macro for the player client who owns the actor (and default to an active GM).

which I believe is the point of the dfreds.effect stuff

[scarlet gale]

Yea, it's more useful when you're doing it on a target that isn't yourself

[covert mason]

This is for the On Effect Deletion portion. How would I revert only the Radiance mutation instead of all mutations?

await warpgate.revert(token.document)```

[scarlet gale]

Did you give the mutation a name?

[covert mason]

Aye, Radiance

[molten solar]

Here's a hint 🙂

[covert mason]

Here, unless I'm mistaken and this isn't how you name a mutation 😅

[molten solar]

The snippet below your message also shows how to find an effect by label.

[weary rune]

this is my CloudKill working without expiring after successful save using qol.Overtime. But I can't think of a way to get a DAE effect to apply damage when applied during active token's turn (ie when walking into template) which is also in the same effect list. and only applied once on active tokens turn. PS the built in Cloudkills were all a bit buggy.

[nimble grail]

how would we add it to the macro so that it checks for the frightened effect for every creature with an effect applied by the aura (if you know - sorry if you don't)

[molten solar]

I don't know, no. 🙂 I don't use any of the modules involved here.

[nimble grail]

ah, sorry for bothering then lol

[rigid jackal]

Just came home to see this, thank you very much my friend.

[uncut rampart]

let damageTargets = MidiQOL.findNearby(null, token, 10);
damageTargets.push(token);
let damageValue = 2;
let damageType = 'psychic';
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage(
[
{
if(damageTargets = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened")) {
damage: damageValue,
type: damageType
} else {
damage: 0
type: damageType
}
}
],
damageValue,
new Set(damageTargets),
null,
null
);

Idk, its a mess

And broken

[nimble grail]

(trying to figure out how to get this to check for the frightened condition for aura of conquest... and actually work lol)

[molten solar]

What is

if(damageTargets = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened")) {
```meant to do?

[nimble grail]

check if the target is frightened or not - not sure if it works...

would it have to be outside the await?

[scarlet gale]

That won't do what you're expecting

[uncut rampart]

Well yeah it does nothing currently

[nimble grail]

then how would we make it check for frightened? been trying to figure that out for a few hours/days lol...

[scarlet gale]

That feature does a few things

But with effect macros on turn start you can at least see if the actor has the Frightened effect and if so do a damage application

[nimble grail]

we have been trying for awhile to figure out how to have it check for frightened is the thing

[scarlet gale]

You're pretty close

[molten solar]

The find finds an effect.

It's undefined if nothing is found

But more importantly, = is an assignment, not a comparison.

[scarlet gale]

let effect = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened");
if (!effect) return;

[nimble grail]

ah, gotcha, I'm used to python sorry

[molten solar]

Welcome to JavaScript

[nimble grail]

yeeeep

[molten solar]

It's all front end from here on out

[scarlet gale]

Could be worse, I only used Lua before learning Javascript

[molten solar]

You're right. That is worse.

[scarlet gale]

You may not want to use effect as the variable name there now that I think about it

[molten solar]

You can re-declare it, but yeah... don't

[nimble grail]

frightenCheck?

not a bad name imo

[molten solar]

steve

[nimble grail]

terror

either or tbh

[molten solar]

I usually just use has for quick checks like these.

[scarlet gale]

Anything except: actor, character, token, scene, origin, and effect

[molten solar]

and nothing upper case lol

and not game either...

or canvas...

[scarlet gale]

That would be interesting

[nimble grail]

lol

[scarlet gale]

Can't imagine the error that would give

[nimble grail]

would you have to indent the await section after inserting the frighten check?

[scarlet gale]

javascript doesn't care

[nimble grail]

I assume yes lol

[scarlet gale]

It looks nice

That's it

[nimble grail]

huh ok then

[molten solar]

Exactly 2 spaces, them's the rules.

(No really.)

[scarlet gale]

You could make your macro one long line if you really wanted

[uncut rampart]

let damageTargets = MidiQOL.findNearby(null, token, 10);
damageTargets.push(token);
let damageValue = actor.system.details.level / 2;
let damageType = 'psychic';
let terror = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened");
if (!terror) return;
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage(
[
{
damage: damageValue,
type: damageType
}
],
damageValue,
new Set(damageTargets),
null,
null
);

[molten solar]

Who has this effect?

[nimble grail]

other tokens

not the actor

[scarlet gale]

This looks a lot like something I wrote

[uncut rampart]

I used it as a base

[scarlet gale]

You don't really need the find nearby

[uncut rampart]

I know but im dumb and dont know how to select a single target

[molten solar]

That's what's confusing me. Nearby whom?

[nimble grail]

nearby the actor (who has the aura with this macro)

[scarlet gale]

You don't need to do that

[molten solar]

Where is the macro?

[scarlet gale]

This is an effect macro right?

[uncut rampart]

I would rather it be a single actor

It will be hopefully

Tied to an Active Aura

[molten solar]

Ok ok, so...
An actor with an aura. And they also have the macro.
And you want to find all tokens within 10 ft and do psychic damage to them if they are frightened.

[scarlet gale]

then you don't need to find anyone nearby, just apply the damage to the self token

[uncut rampart]

I know, but I dont know how to do that

Because I have even less coding experience

Its why I dragged Xaltios in

[nimble grail]

and of course I haven't looked at much java script... sooo...

[uncut rampart]

const originTokenId = args[1];
let damageTargets = canvas.tokens.get(lastArg.tokenId);

Would that do it?

[scarlet gale]

let effected = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened");
if (!effected) return;
let paladinLevels = actor.flags.world?.feature?.aoc?.level
if (!paladinLevels) return;
let damageValue = paladinLevels / 2;
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage(
    [
        {
            damage: damageValue,
            type: 'psychic'
        }
    ],
    damageValue,
    new Set([token]),
    null,
    null
);```

Untested, let me know if you get an error

Make sure to properly setup the active aura

Effect macro run on combat turn starting

[molten solar]

@classes.paladin.levels, surely.

[scarlet gale]

yea probably

[nimble grail]

yea I was thinking bout that

[scarlet gale]

I didn't actually check

[nimble grail]

make it let paladinLevels = @classes.paladin.levels

[molten solar]

Even if it's evaluated before being sent off to the target

[scarlet gale]

I'm pretty sure it gets evaluated first

[uncut rampart]

Active aura is properly setup

The damage isnt happening

[scarlet gale]

error in console?

[molten solar]

F12 for console errors.
Also log the paladinLevels in the macro.

[scarlet gale]

unrelated

[nimble grail]

do you know where we'd be able to find where the error is being caused? like I assume it has to be related to either the paladin or the zombies or the macro or the effect...

[molten solar]

Yellow messages are warnings. Errors are red.

[nimble grail]

ahhhh k

[scarlet gale]

let effected = actor.effects.find(e => e.label === "Frightened");
if (!effected) return;
let paladinLevels = actor.flags.world?.feature?.aoc?.levels
if (!paladinLevels) return;
let damageValue = Math.ceil(paladinLevels / 2);
await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage(
    [
        {
            damage: damageValue,
            type: 'psychic'
        }
    ],
    damageValue,
    new Set([token]),
    null,
    null
);```
This is tested working on my end.

Although the damage needs to be rounded up lol

[nimble grail]

what does the aura look like out of curiosity

cause we have the same effect and macro and it's still not working on his end it looks like

(the damage isn't - the movespeed penalty is being applied, so we think the aura is working)

[scarlet gale]

If you're doing the move speed penalty with the aura I'm confused how

Because it should only apply to those who are frightened

[molten solar]

Where did you put the macro?

[scarlet gale]

Yea, I'd check that you're doing an effect macro not an item macro.

[uncut rampart]

Maybe it’s the frightened condition?

Idk

[uncut rampart]

It’s an effect macro

[nimble grail]

it is an effect macro under "on combat turn starting"

[scarlet gale]

Could you screenshot the details tab of your effect

[scarlet gale]

and now the effects tab

[uncut rampart]

Isn’t not exactly, it’s applying to all the enemies in the radius

[scarlet gale]

That's what I figured

[nimble grail]

mhm

[nimble grail]

I mispoke/wasn't clear with what I meant there mb

[scarlet gale]

That's why

You didn't do this step ^

[nimble grail]

basically the damage was calling an undefined variable or smth?

[scarlet gale]

I have the effect macro return if it doesn't find the value

To prevent errors

[nimble grail]

ah gotcha

[scarlet gale]

line 4 specifically does that

[uncut rampart]

still nothing

[scarlet gale]

screenshot it again

and make sure to move the token out and back into the aura

So the effect on them gets updated to the new one

[nimble grail]

we've been moving the paladin

[scarlet gale]

that works too

Does the other token have the frightened condition too?

[uncut rampart]

Yes

[nimble grail]

all the tokens have frightened

[scarlet gale]

Could you export your item

Easier for me to just import it and check it's configured

[uncut rampart]

Wait... WAIT

level

not levels

oh damnit

[nimble grail]

god fucking- it's ALWAYS one character

istfg

[uncut rampart]

Oh wait still doesnt work

Oh wait... it was

I just had it misspelled twice...

[scarlet gale]

lol

[uncut rampart]

Well thats that

Thank you for the help

[nimble grail]

yea ty chris

[scarlet gale]

If you wanted to take it a step further you could also have the effect macro make a single turn duration effect

that makes the speed 0

[nimble grail]

how would we start to do that?

cause I'm interested in that lol

[scarlet gale]

await actor.createEmbeddedDocuments('ActiveEffect', [effectData]);

You just need to fill in the effectData part

You can see what that looks like by making the effect you want on a token then examining it's formatting in console

or exporting the actor and looking at the json

Here's an example:

let effectData = {
    'label': 'Condition Advantage',
    'icon': 'icons/magic/time/arrows-circling-green.webp',
    'duration': {
        'turns': 1
    },
    'changes': [
        {
            'key': 'flags.midi-qol.advantage.ability.save.all',
            'value': '1',
            'mode': 5,
            'priority': 120
        }
    ]
};```

[nimble grail]

F12 on the effect (aura of conquest) to find the data to put in that ^?

[scarlet gale]

not really

On an actor make an effect on them manually

configure it how you want

[nimble grail]

oh nvm Drako is working on it gonna let him do it XD

I'm just a player with coding knowledge trying to help lol

[scarlet gale]

then just look at the data structure in console / exported json

[uncut rampart]

It works!

[nimble grail]

ty again chris

[cerulean phoenix]

How do I make this passive effect take away the item uses of Elastic Joints (Tier 2, Dex. Save)?
it doesn't seem to work when I do it like this..

To be specific, it's not prompting the user to add the bonus

Otherwise it would-

[chrome gale]

I might just be being tired, but I can't quite see how to do this (I'm sure I once knew lol).
I'm trying to make a spell with a 30-foot radius from the spell caster, which causes hit targets to have to do a wisdom save, but which only hits enemies (so no friendlies and no self).

I know 'special' as the range omits the 'self' but I'm not sure how to omit friendlies.

[cerulean phoenix]

Have you tried using the Allies/Enemies targetting or somethin

[chrome gale]

If I set it to 'enemies' I need to pick a number of enemies I think (which is unlimited depending on how many are in range)

and also means I wont be able to use the circle template to target them

so it wont really work

[cerulean phoenix]

I see, yeah, I see that.

[violet meadow]

@chrome gale the target 30 ft enemy is the way to do that.
What is not working?

[covert mason]

I'd like to turn this Summon Celestial macro into a Summon Elemental macro, where instead of summoning one creature with a single stat block, and altering that stat block, I'd like to pull from different creatures with different stat blocks. All of these four stat blocks are generally similar, and only require minor alterations such as the amount of health, AC, number of attacks, and attack and damage modifiers.
The primary reason for this is that the tokens for each of the creatures have different Token Magic effects on them and some have tiles with JB2A effects token-attached.
I'd also like to use different sequencer summoning animations for each elemental.

Does anyone have an example of how to pull this off?

[rancid tide]

If I use a item with a OnUse macro, and use it on someone else, does the macro execute from me or from them?

[violet meadow]

It executes on the client that rolls the Item

[violet meadow]

Can you just spawn the relevant creature from the sidebar?

[rancid tide]

So in this case, me. I think?

[violet meadow]

Sounds like it.

Do you use Advanced macros?

[rancid tide]

Is there a way to make it the other way around in any way?

[violet meadow]

usecase?

[rancid tide]

I have the module

[rancid tide]

what do you mean, sorry

[violet meadow]

What are you trying to accomplish?

[covert mason]

I can, yes. I'm just looking for a dialogue that allows me to select wich one is spawned, as well as change/update some minor stats upon spawning it, depending on spell level

[rancid tide]

Okay I have a potion that lets whoever drinks it recover X hit points using their hit dice

[sudden crane]

If you use flags.midi-qol.onUseMacro on an effect that is applied to a target, it will execute when the target roll an item

[rancid tide]

Quoting the description:
"A creature that consumes the contents of the vial can spend and roll its Hit Dice and regain a number of hit points equal to the roll.
The maximum number of Hit Dice it can spend by consuming the contents is equal to the creature’s Constitution modifier (minimum of 1)."

[covert mason]

Oh, and also a different sequence when summoning each different type of elemental

[violet meadow]

So a dialog with a menu of some buttons to select the creature you want and then the macro will take care of the updates and the spawning

[covert mason]

Yup, pretty much! As well as a different summon sequencer per type of elemental spawned

[covert mason]

I think a lot of what's already in the code above already takes care of the updates portion. I just need to figure out how to modify it

[sudden crane]

In this case a simple on use on the item should work, because the owner of the item will be the one executing the macro

[violet meadow]

I imagine that the issue will arise if you force feed the potion to another target?

[rancid tide]

Yes

[violet meadow]

You can do eveything based on target in the macro

[rancid tide]

Because as long as I am the one doing it, everything is fine, but if I use the potion on someone else well, idk how to do that then

[violet meadow]

What's the macro you are using?

[sudden crane]

But the updates on the target will need to be executed as GM…

[rancid tide]

None yet

Still brainstorming

[violet meadow]

yeah it will need to jump through some hoops

[rancid tide]

Yeah

That's another issue

[violet meadow]

get the target, trigger the hit roll dice roll, warpgate the mutated data

Or actually no mutation

Trigger the roll hit dice

[rancid tide]

Mhm but how do I give the target the choice to use it and how much

[violet meadow]

Oh now that is a different issue. Requestor module sounds like the solution

Or create an effect that will give the item on the target and make them use it 😄

[rancid tide]

mhmm problem is that I'm making a module so the less dependencies I have the better

[violet meadow]

hmm

[rancid tide]

Yeah that too could work but it's a bit un-userfriendly

[violet meadow]

I see. macro.createItem as an effect on the target

then in the same macro make it roll the Item after a bit of waiting to make sure its created

Roll it as the other client

[rancid tide]

Mhm, I'll think about it, thank you all for the help

[violet meadow]

await MidiQOL.socket().executeAsUser(handler, userId, ...args)

get the userId from the target's owner

[rancid tide]

Or maybe I create an effect that execute a macro upon creation on actor which promps you with a menu with the option to spend X hit points

executeAsGM("effect") let's me create an effect on other's actor so maybe that's a way

[violet meadow]

example from Elwin: #1010273821401555087 message

This is what you want to do essentially. No need to create anything on the target, just an ephemeral Item to "roll"

[rancid tide]

I don't understand the logistics behind it

[violet meadow]

You are using a socket to force another client roll an item

[rancid tide]

Does executeAsUser make an item execute from the user itself?

Ohhh

Okay so I get the target and say "from this actor, use this item" right?

[violet meadow]

Yeah that sounds about right

[rancid tide]

But the "data" argument in executeAsUser what does it wants exactly?

[violet meadow]

You will need to create an ephemeral item that will also purge the midi flags

[sudden crane]

I was going to propose exactly the same thing 😁

[violet meadow]

so as not to roll indefinetely

[rancid tide]

what's a ephemeral item?

[violet meadow]

Its something that is not an actual Item which has been created on the server side

Just some data on the client more or less

[rancid tide]

like when I do "itemData = {stuff}"?

Okay I think I understand now

[sudden crane]

I think it’s the json object version of the item, without a class, to be able to serialize it on the socket.
The on the receiver side, it recreates an item from this data

[rancid tide]

And it auto rolls it?

[sudden crane]

If you ask for completeItemRoll it should

[rancid tide]

okay

[sudden crane]

completeItemUse

[dark canopy]

it does sound like warpgate's event system, midi's socket functions, or socketlib will be useful here

[violet meadow]

yeah. Just start using completeItemUse

[rancid tide]

So inside the argument I put an item, an then executeAsUser with completeItemUse rolls the item as the user linked

[rancid tide]

I'm not very familiar with warpgate I'm just now starting to use the mutation system for very basic stuff

[violet meadow]

Make sure, if you use a copy of the original Item, to go into its data and delete the MidiQOL on use macro flags

[dark canopy]

sure, just pointing it out -- the event system is just a wrapper for p2p client communication

but it sounds like you have a better approach now

[rancid tide]

I mean the cool of programming is that there isn't a better approach so your suggestion is very much welcome

[rancid tide]

If I use another item altogether? Like the original item (the one that triggers the executeAsUser) doesn't have the effect I'm aiming for, I can use as you said before a ephemeral item, right? In that case I don't have to worry about MidiQOL on use macro flags, is that correct?

Since the item I need to execute has a OnUse Macro, because it's a complicated item xD

[rancid tide]

btw where can I find the documentation for those commands you're referring to, aside for warpgate since I have the wiki saved in my browser (so useful, I love wikis)

[violet meadow]

So lets say you want the potion Item to be the one that the ephemeral Item will be based on.
That one has the onUse macro on.

You can either do something like ```js
let newItem = originalItem.clone({flags:null})

[dark canopy]

https://trioderegion.github.io/warpgate/warpgate.event.html for the event system

[violet meadow]

Or just get another sanitized item which will be the basic roll hit dice stuff.

[rancid tide]

Okay makes sense

[dark canopy]

i simply know of, but dont have experience in, the rest

[rancid tide]

Okay ty very much 😄

[rancid tide]

Great thanks! I understand

Thank you all, this community is always very nice when I have questions ty

[violet meadow]

@covert mason are you going by names for the summoned actors? Sidebar or a compendium?

[covert mason]

Preferably I'd like to try and get them from a compendium

At least that's what I'm trying to figure out

[violet meadow]

So that would be all creatures from a specific compendium?

[covert mason]

Yup, all four spirits from a single compendium

[dark canopy]

spawning from a compendium is possible, but you have to jump through hoops

having the actors in the world is an order of magnitude easier

[violet meadow]

This should help. At least the first part for the compendium #macro-polo message

[covert mason]

I mean if having them in-world is easier, that's completely fine. I've also managed to figure out a method of not needing multiple tokens. Just have the different resistances and effects tied to an active effect, the feature of which is deleted when the token is updated on spawn.

Only trouble now is trying to find out what's causing this syntax error.

[dark canopy]

you might as well put any AEs or changes from AEs directly in the mutation data

and its that first line again, which i thought you fixed days ago 😅

const {spellLevel: level} = args[0];

[covert mason]

Looks like it's still throwing up a syntax error

[dark canopy]

https://www.jslint.com/ is a handy sanity check

const level = args[0].spellLevel; or just break it all the way down

[covert mason]

Yup. Still more syntax errors. Looking through jslint, it sure doesn't like lines with more than 80 characters
And it likes single quotes, not double quotes apparently

[dark canopy]

ignore those, that's fine

[violet meadow]

If you ve copied and pasted it correctly, there doesn't seem to be an obvious syntax error in the macro.

[prime olive]

Hey I was wondering if i could get a hand with a macro not working correctly.
i'm using MidiQOL, warpgate, along with Item Macro. I am trying to do the echo knight's manifest echo feature. I got it to work with the line of code warpgate.spawn('Echo',{})

I have the On use macros option within the feature set to ItemMacro, the script works fine expect instead of one token it summons 7 of them. I went through every step and this doesn't become a problem until I add "itemMacro" to that on use macros field. not sure what i messed up.

[dark canopy]

7?? ha, that's a new one

if you just run the macro by itself in a standalone script, do you get the same behavior?

[prime olive]

sounds like the equivalent of going to the dentist and hearing "Opps." and no it works correctly. even if i execute the script from the item macro page

it isn't until i activate the feature through the character sheet that it pops up 7 of them

[dark canopy]

heh, well at least warpgate is doing what is expected of it

does it prompt you for 7 placements?

or just one and it does...what exactly?

[prime olive]

it prompts for one placement, once i place "it" 7 tokens appear on the same space.

yeah running, from the hot key bar worked just fine turning off the item macro. i guess it can be a work around for now 🙂

game.dnd5e.macros.rollItem("Manifest Echo")
warpgate.spawn('Echo',{})

[covert mason]

Do you have an example of that? 😄
Been trying to automate cloudkill with a similar method to the Black Tentacles you showed me.

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/chrisk123999/foundry-macros/tree/main/Spells/Cloudkill

May not play nice with newer versions of advanced macros.

It doesn't wait for a return from the run as gm macro so it might work fine.

[vagrant bay]

How do you use the @fields function to reference and reduce the count of an item? It doesn't work like this.

[idle crypt]

hi there! can anyone show me how I can add a random damage type to an attack? acid, cold, lightning or fire

[covert mason]

It doesn't appear to be doing any damage. No errors in the console.
I've imported the spell, and the macro. I've set the macro to GM execute and given ownership to all players. All thhat's happening is the template is down, the caster has concentration and the movement handler on them. Other creature steps into the template--no damage during its turn.
Maybe the newer version of advanced macros is futzing with it

[covert mason]

I had the idea that perhaps I could use the damage-dealing from this and do away with the requirement for the restrained condition, and instead find a way to scale the damage per spell level. Save or damage.
#1010273821401555087 message

Although... that doesn't account for the half-damage taken on a save.

[scarlet gale]

Very likely

It can be fixed with a lot of copying and pasting the GM macro

[covert mason]

I'm not quite sure what you mean

[scarlet gale]

If your look for all spots using game.macros.getName('Chris-CloudkillEffect') and change it to a function in that macro.

Newer advanced macros changed / broke executing other macros.

[covert mason]

It looks like there's only one which is in the spell's ItemMacro

console.log(args);
let template = canvas.scene.collections.templates.get(args[0].templateId);
if (!template) return;
let spellLevel = args[0].spellLevel;
let spelldc = args[0].actor.system.attributes.spelldc;
let touchedTokens = await game.modules.get('templatemacro').api.findContained(template);
await template.setFlag('world', 'spell.cloudkill', {spellLevel, spelldc, touchedTokens});
game.macros.getName('Chris-CloudkillEffect').execute(touchedTokens); //< -------Here```

[scarlet gale]

It's in the template macros as well

Not at my PC at the moment. I can make the needed changes when I'm back.

[coarse mesa]

Those optional babonuses look hot @molten solar

(yes I am stalking you on github)

[weary rune]

how do I check if it is a tokens current turn? in a macro, got token

[molten solar]

const isItMyTurn = game.combat.current.tokenId === myToken.id;

[weary rune]

doh I worked it out after you posted but didn't notice the message. thanks

is there an effect flag to apply damage sort of the same as Overtime but happens when effect is applied? or should it be through macro. This is for entering template area which applies an effect.
needs damage type, save for half, spell DC etc

[spice kraken]

So the exact same as an overtime effect but it gets applied when in an aoe template?

[scarlet gale]

MidiQOL.doOverTimeEffect can manually run the overtime effect

For example:

let effect = token.actor.effects.find(eff => eff.label === 'Cloudkill');
    if (effect) MidiQOL.doOverTimeEffect(token.actor, effect, true);
}```

[weary rune]

it's weird it's not finding it but I can see it in the data. But I'll also run into the problem where It does both start of turn and doOVertime on the same turn

maybe needs async

[spice kraken]

If you have active auras you can look at the compendium items on how those handle it

[weary rune]

those don't work, doesn't apply effect on enter radius and effect expires on save and they duplicate effects.

[scarlet gale]

It's unlikely they do

[spice kraken]

Another victory for v9!

[weary rune]

I'm on v9 😄

[spice kraken]

Dm me as a reminder and I can help setup the Active Auras OT but it'll be in a few hours since I'm going out for a bit

[weary rune]

AA doesn't work because it doubles up. I'd have to apply it to a warpgate summoned token instead but am still trying to forge ahead with not going that route

[clear kernel]

Lukas said there may be a way with midi to automatically remove spell templates after casting them, is that something midi can do? I used to use a module for it, but it looks like it hasn't been updated to v10

[scarlet gale]

Midi does that

Among many other things

[clear kernel]

ah I must have something mucked up in my settings then, where can I go to enable that functionality?

[coarse mesa]

Hope that gets it working for you!

[clear kernel]

awesome, that's enough of a hint that I'll muddle through it

thanks again 🙂

[coarse mesa]

On a related note, I do wonder if I should be using Walled Templates instead of DF 🤔

[clear kernel]

I actually had it set to walls block, ignore defeated

which worked I guess? iunno!

[coarse mesa]

I have DF installed because we prefer the RAW 5E interpretation of how templates affect creatures (cones are actually decent, they're pathetic in FVTT core)

I wonder if I can have DF and Walled both going – anyone in here doing that?

[clear kernel]

ohhh, I see what's going on

but if the spell is concentration based, it'll stick around till concentration breaks

so in that case I guess I just have to manually erase it

unless I want it to remain

cause of spell text

ok that makes things clearer

[coarse mesa]

Oh but it should stay if concentration is going.... if you want to hide it that's another matter

Automated Animations and Token Magic FX both let you hide templates if you're using their fx instead

(but you gotta have something to see where the bad stuff is happening)

[clear kernel]

oh that's what I need then!

I'll try to find the AA setting or hiding default templates, that sounds perfect

[coarse mesa]

They're spell-dependent in A-A... TMFX has a blanket setting

[scarlet gale]

Nothing stopping you from having the item macro delete the template deletion effect

[coarse mesa]

That too

[clear kernel]

that's true!

[clear kernel]

That's exactly the setting I needed!

[coarse mesa]

Here's the TMFX setting, I like things this way in any case:

[clear kernel]

oh neat

[coarse mesa]

Because you don't see the ugly template unless you hover.... but you can hover to see exactly what squares are affected

[clear kernel]

that's perfect!

[weary rune]

I think this is my working Cloudkill. But had to use some weird hackery to make it work. overtime is end of turn, but only used via EffectMacro because I don't know how to roll a damage with save via macro, otherwise I'd not even user Overtime here. uses AAhelpers.applyTemplate to get the effect working on template. works also when token moves into radius, without doubling up in a round - I don't know how this is working but it is so I'll take it.. maybe AA Template does this by default?
edit: had some bugs.. see later post. #1010273821401555087 message

[violet meadow]

@coarse mesa I changed at some point to Walled Templates cause I really liked the way that module works when you move templates around and hit walls!

[coarse mesa]

It give it a whirl… fingers crossed it can coexist with DF

[violet meadow]

Hmm I haven't tried it but I would think one or another.
What do you need it to do?

[coarse mesa]

This:

[coarse mesa]

The cones especially are terrible…

[violet meadow]

It replicates the dnd5e helpers templates scaling, so I think it should do it

[molten solar]

Is there an issue on github to support various template rules, and if not, have you thought of opening one?

[violet meadow]

Do you mean System wide? No idea. Personally I don't use scaling. Using 5/10/5 though

[tall pond]

Hi, guys! Can anyone help me ?

How can i set to other formula applies damage with a bigger critical threshold ? I only know this one

[tall pond]

i try a lot of stuff but it wont work

[vast bane]

change it from equals to greater than whatever the lowest number in threshold is

assuming that is right to begin with: workflow.diceRoll > 18

assuming threshold of 19-20

you could also just set the threshold if the additional damage is a normal critical

I wonder if the vorpal is in a premade somewhere to show us how to do it

[tall pond]

i tried this.. and won't work

I'm trying do set Blade of Disaster... and its normal threshold is 18...

it works fine with vorpal because its only 20

but in here...

i just can't set anything but 20

[vast bane]

blade of disaster is just increased crit threshold, thats in core 5e no need for midi

[tall pond]

i need it, because its normal damage its 4d12, but its critical is 12d12

i need the other formula to roll a diference of 4d12

[vast bane]

you can set the critical threshold AND additional critical damage can't we, or is my brain too fuzzy

[tall pond]

if we can, i don't know

ha

[tall pond]

lol

I'm blind, man

really

hahahaha

[vast bane]

your way would be nice for those weird homebrew rules where the crit rules contradict the spellls wording and the DM wants to keep that

[tall pond]

yeah

Tnks a lot bro...

[coarse mesa]

You mean get it added to 2.1.0?

[molten solar]

Well it blew past 50% just now, you gotta get that down again.

[coarse mesa]

rolls up sleeves

[molten solar]

Asking never hurts, but check if there's an issue already

[coarse mesa]

You’re right, we jest but core is actually massively nerfing a bunch of 5E spells and abilities and a lot of players might not even realise. Think of the poor Dragonborn!

[molten solar]

And poor, underpowered but much cooler Lightning Bolt

[cerulean ocean]

does anyone know how to turn off the midiqol thing that makes for slow movement?

[spice kraken]

Slow movement?

[cerulean ocean]

like when a player moves it does a slow movement across the screen

I want it to happen instantly

[spice kraken]

That's not midi. That's core. Look at the pins of #macro-polo to create a world script that can change that

[molten solar]

Out of curiosity, what do you think Midi is? 🤔 Or why this in particular was Midi

[vast bane]

My first Caster Loadout build for macro.createitem Yeah its slow but I honestly think its either my pc or the host pc's poor hardware, unless you also all see slow item adds with the feature.

need to figure out how to mod the spell slots in the effect, probably gonna have to be effect macro stuff, doubt an ae changes slots

[molten solar]

AEs can modify spell slots, yes

[dark canopy]

very neat! the main reason for the lag would be the individual creation of the items (being routed through a few layers of modules)

[vast bane]

yeah but like hp, they can't mod the current slots up

[molten solar]

Current? No. Override the max? Yes

[vast bane]

yeah I'm thinkin probably on the todo list is a macro for it in the future

for now I'm just pretending the 0/0's are 1's

[molten solar]

Think it's only DAE, but getting each item individually via fromUuid

Likely getting the item (async), creating the item (async), then flagging itself to know what item to delete when it gets disabled/deleted (async)

[dark canopy]

gotchya. what about modifying the caster level?

since slots are governed by caster level

[vast bane]

I kinda wish that we could put them all in one key, I think that might have something to do with the delayed additions:

[molten solar]

✝️

[dark canopy]

that poor poor DB

wreck it

[vast bane]

normally I just do 2-3 but spell loadouts are a lil crzier and I was conservative with the choices

my use case for this is for half-assed monster creations that I want to become casters, so not sure about spellcasting level...is it an ae I can set?

[molten solar]

Issue being current slots, not max slots, methinks.

[vast bane]

yeah current needs to be adjusted only once so thats why I'm leaning into effect macro probably

[molten solar]

Just have it take a long rest

[dark canopy]

ah, yea, just do all the item creations in one swoop, then mod the slots or long rest w/o dialog

[vast bane]

I assume the same situation would occur for the slots as with when one mods hp with AE's

[molten solar]

Yes

[dark canopy]

the hard work is getting all those uuids

now put it in a script and do it in 1 second instead of 30 🙂

[vast bane]

lol. I dunno how to add items in a macro

[dark canopy]

actor.createEmbeddedDocuments('Item', [await fromUuid('some uuid').toObject()])

in its most basic form

[vast bane]

is it literaly what I put in the effect values in the image?

[dark canopy]

but we would gather all the uuids up and get their data in a single array, then push it to the actor

[molten solar]

Need some brackets tehre

[vast bane]

hmmmm I dunno what the drag and drop is exactly with dae's macro.createitem

Compendium.world.create-item.UZR9srLpqLvUlevy

[molten solar]

That is a uuid, yes

[vast bane]

I think thats the name of the compendium

[molten solar]

'create-item' is, but the last part is the id of the item in said compendium

[vast bane]

oh well then I have the whole hard part done, just cut and paste

[molten solar]

yep

[vast bane]

thats the name of the compendium I believe

what brackets are missing in badgers macro?

[molten solar]

loads

[dark canopy]

fair, at any rate, #macro-polo can def take it from here, given an array of uuids, its pretty basic

[molten solar]

posted it there

[dull condor]

sneak atack is prompting -0 instad of -17

[cerulean ocean]

Sorry if it was a stupid question. Someone last week told me it was midi causing the slow movement thing.

[molten solar]

Odd 🤔

[vast bane]

put your mouse cursor over the lil tiny token image in that snippet

and tell us what it says

in the tooltip

(Its likely immune to the damage)

[dull condor]

the mob is immune to psy/poison

this is sneak atk

[vast bane]

what is the weapon being used?

that damage card is telling you that the creature was immune to the damage

or you tried to deal damage on a miss(I think)

or you tried to attack while no DM was logged in maybe?

OH, it also could be because you have abnormal damage types in your item, or you have more than one roller installed

[vast bane]

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
ANything with "Fast Rolls" in its name
Dice Tooltips
Gm Paranoia
WIRE
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage```

My own question for the DAE pro's. Why are these two items different? AFAIK only the image is changed on them yet one has different buttons in the passive section:

The only thing I can think of is that the right hand one is carried over from v9 and was modified to look like the left hand one, but I can't see how or why they have different buttons there?

[ancient flare]

I am noticing MIDIQol is rolling damage for both regular and versatile formulas. Has anyone else seen this?

[vast bane]

show us what it looks like in chat?

[ancient flare]

what part would you like to see? The damage card?

[vast bane]

the whole workflow in chat

most of us merge cards so its usually just one

[ancient flare]

oh...you mean the config from settings...

[vast bane]

no I mean chat

I'm trying to quickly rule out a roller conflict

cause MRE and possibly Roll groups are culprits for versatiles set as regular damage formulas

Midi will roll all damage formulas that are not versatile or other on an item normally something is likely creating many additional damage formulas, its usually a bad importer or MRE/Roll Groups(and Wire)

[vast bane]

They are especially problematic as even if you remove the modules, they still have modded the item

show me the items details bottom third of the window

[vast bane]

Show me the warpicks details tab

[dull condor]

just a regular longbow

[spice kraken]

Show the bottom too Ref

[vast bane]

oh yep thers a box at the bottom for it

yeah try with just socketlib, libwrapper, and midi qol installed ENABLED

you do NOT need to uninstall everything sorry misspoke lol

[ancient flare]

FYI, this is not limited to the war pick. Its been any weapon with versatile damage loaded

[vast bane]

does it happen when just midi is enabled?

[dull condor]

wait actually maybe this is the more important setting

[ancient flare]

I could roll down the FTC avenue. I have 170+ mods so....that becomes arduous

[vast bane]

that does not look like midi's sneak attack

[dull condor]

how i fix

[vast bane]

make it simple, enable just 3 and see if it works on the first try with just the three, if it does....then we could possibly guess at a second rolller installed?

libwrapper, socketlib, midiqol

[vast bane]

Sneak attack should be part of the same attack yes?

[dull condor]

i dont turn on automation on midi btw

but yea i think?

[vast bane]

Define automation

[spice kraken]

v9 or v10?

[vast bane]

I don't fast forward, but I still utilize the automated things

[ancient flare]

V10

[spice kraken]

Ah, I was gonna say export your settings and dm them to me but I'm still on v9

[ancient flare]

same result

[vast bane]

what version of dnd5e and midiqol are you on?

the latest is not an answer

[ancient flare]

LOL

[vast bane]

oh for that matter, what build of v10 are you on? are you a 291 beta tester lol?

[ancient flare]

2.0.3 for 5e, 10.0.23 on Midi

yeah, I'm on 291

[vast bane]

Ok well you match me perfectly barring a 291 build, so you definitely got something weird going on

oh boy 291 when your roller isn't updated for it yet oof

probably not the problem but we shall see

at this point, I think the only path forward to fix this is to nuke your midi settings or.....go to a fresh new world and test there

test with a fresh midi setup

and I understand fully how painful it is to have to nuke a midi settings setup as they are a chore to configure

[ancient flare]

sigh....I will crank up a new world

[spice kraken]

Export the settings to have a backup

[vast bane]

test in a dummy world lets rule out a bad midi first

I might even suggest snippeting all the settings tabs in midi before you nuke it so you can quickly resetup

versatile doesn't roll in addition right guys?

it couldn't be a stuck versatile key right?

[spice kraken]

Correct, 1 or the other

[vast bane]

damage of none means no damage in midi. Normally sneak attack is attached to a weapons damage in the workflow but you are using dnd5e's srd version of sneak attack instead of midi's premade

You can deal the sneak attack damage manually the core method. If you aren't merging cards, right click the damage and apply to selected token. If you are using merge card, turn on the buttons in the main midi settings that put mouse over buttons on the damage bar in chat.

personally, if ya got midi, and if ya got the damage card turned on there....you should be using midi's automated sneak attack.

you are already being forced to work with midi's damage calculator, might as well leverage it.

[vast bane]

This setting in MISC at the bottom, check whats up with it maybe?

[ancient flare]

ok...juggling midi workflow in test world to match the original

[vast bane]

do you have any world scripts or actor on use macros that would cause that issue?

[ancient flare]

no

[vast bane]

part of the reason I like worldscripter module is that it turns them off when using FTC

[ancient flare]

toggling sticky made no difference. Same result

[vast bane]

does the test world have the problem?

[ancient flare]

trying to get the automation to match

[vast bane]

also...did your main world have WIRE or MRE installed at any time?

[ancient flare]

WRE MRE?

[vast bane]

2 rollers that conflict with midi and had issues modding items and leaving the mods on them after uninstalling

[ancient flare]

I use Dice so nice. Thats the only thing I would say is a roller. Is better roll tables a "roller"?

Not sure how you define a roller?

[vast bane]

DSN is technically a roller but not what we all call rollers

rollers are things that mod the chat card before outputting to chat

they manipulate the roll. DSN just reads it and does stuff with it

[ancient flare]

so...what do WIRE and MRE mean? Not familiar with those abbreviations

[vast bane]

Midi does not work with:

Ready Set Roll
Better Rolls for 5e
Roll Groups
ANything with "Fast Rolls" in its name
Dice Tooltips
Gm Paranoia
WIRE(Pending spelling)
Minimal Roll Enhancements
Retroactive Advantage/Disadvantage

gotta go find it

[spice kraken]

MRE is dead on v9

[vast bane]

the worlds carry over though

the issue he has is something that could totally carry over, modded items

even after you uninstalled it the items would have flags and other things on them still that midi would interpret as an additional damage formula

[ancient flare]

never userd any of those

[vast bane]

I dunno what wires called but if you don't know what it is, then nm

does it not happen in the fresh world?

[spice kraken]

Whistler's Item Rolls Extended

[vast bane]

if the fresh world is fine, we didn't clear your keybindings, maybe you got weird keybindings for midi

[ancient flare]

jeepers...is there a console command to backup the midi settings?

[vast bane]

theres a button in midi's settings for saving settings

[ancient flare]

a simple json export/import would reallllly be helpful

[vast bane]

you can also make a fresh world with midi and create a defaults settings

[vast bane]

midi has that

also not every setting saves in that I think

[ancient flare]

thank you....theres so much its easy to miss. 🙂

OK...dummyu world it works as expected

[vast bane]

do you fast forward?

[ancient flare]

yessir

[vast bane]

go to normal world with problem and hold down the T key and show us what the damage popout shows

hold down T for the whole workflow

I want to see this sort of image:

obviously without the fancy red stuff

how is it rolling versatile?

are you holding down V?

[ancient flare]

shift is how versatile normally rolls

[vast bane]

switch to the Versatile option in the customize formula and show us it

isn't there a windows 8+ thing that fucks with shift?

[ancient flare]

Not getting the window you showed.

[vast bane]

what are your midi keybindings

T definitely should be stopping fast forward and auto roll

[ancient flare]

I got it, I think with ctrl alt left click. No versatile damage formula shown

However when I roll the normal damage it does both normal and versatile damage

perplexing

[vast bane]

does it only happen with one actor?

[ancient flare]

no, any actor with both loaded will get this result

[vast bane]

what browser are you using?

[ancient flare]

Edge

[vast bane]

switch to another browser and try

I dunno, if it doesn't happen in your other world, you could try importing the other worlds settings

War Pick is not a versatile weapon, so it probably won't have that drop down

drag out a fresh longsword

from dnd5e's items compendium

and swing that on the actor

[ancient flare]

switching browsers doesn't change anything.

[vast bane]

test normal roll with shift held down, then show us the drop down with T held down

A war pick is not a versatile weapon

You are 1000% sure you have no world scripts installed?

[ancient flare]

Not sure what a world script is. For this actor there is no itemuse macro.

[vast bane]

world scripts are usually in the world folder in data and you would of had to of modded your world.json and such

cause what doesn't add up is the fact that the cards are all rolling versatile damages and the items don't even have that

something is overriding your chat cards

if you don't remember going to macro polo and getting some world script macros setup for yourself, then you don't have any world scripts, its something you definitely would recall

[ancient flare]

Yeah...that I have not done for sure!

[vast bane]

as for actor on use macros those are on the front pages of the actors its a lil cog wheel next to special traits

[ancient flare]

As for the damage roll, even with the longsword from SRD, still not seeing the versatile formula.

[vast bane]

apparently I must have a module doing my stuff my bad

[ancient flare]

BUT....the longsword does work properly

[vast bane]

do you use an importer?

[ancient flare]

HOWEVER, when I edit the damage from, say, bit on a rat to add versatile it mucks up again

DDB

[vast bane]

are all of your items from the importer?

[ancient flare]

and yes

Don't say what I think you are going to say.....

[vast bane]

You could go to his server and see if hes noticed this problem before

hes very midi centric so he could totally spot the problem if you show him it

[ancient flare]

I was afraid you were going to say that

I will see what Primate says...thanks for the help tho!

[vast bane]

I personally do not use importers anymore. I prefer to get all the premades from searching here or making them myself importers rarely save time

if you drag the naughty weapon to the side bar and export it, you can drag the file here and I can try to import it to replicate the issue

[ancient flare]

Let me know if its funky for you!

[vast bane]

confirming if we can even do the swap, I'm not on 291

[ancient flare]

ok, its problematic for you too...good, I guess

[spice kraken]

Does the issue persist on a newly created actor with SRD items?

Specifically from the SRD compendium

[ancient flare]

Doesn't appear so

[vast bane]

A War Pick isn't even versatile, so my question is why does this item have it

[spice kraken]

Wherever you got the item from made a trash item so just use SRD items or make your own

[ancient flare]

Its from IDROTFM, when a Duergar increases size to large it does 2d8

[coarse mesa]

If you turn versatile on does that fix it?

[vast bane]

Lukas solves the problem!

Flag it as versatile, this might be a midi bug even

[coarse mesa]

There's a midi setting to also roll Other if it's in there (but it treats versatile as Other because a lot of SRD creatures have their extra damage in that field)

If versatile is unticked it would fall in that category

[vast bane]

nah its not ticked

[coarse mesa]

I mean in the workflow settings

[vast bane]

YEP

damn thats genius right there

empt=true

[ancient flare]

YUP....setting as versatile does indeed resolve the issue!

[coarse mesa]

Yeah it could be a bit clearer, but it's a concession Tim made to make most of the SRD monsters work out of the box

(that have extra poison damage or whatnot)

[vast bane]

So its not a bug, its just 1 more thing that makes you laugh at midi's interactions with dnd5e srd stuff

like when someone accidentally rolls the torch item

[ancient flare]

Yeah,,,just a config miss...something to be communicated to importers so the items are created properly...or silly users that customize stuff. 👀

[vast bane]

you might want to tell MrPrimate in an issue report about the importer honestly

[ancient flare]

I shall

[coarse mesa]

Well if they didn't tick versatile in DDB it's not really on him

[vast bane]

thats gonna be a pain in the butt to edit all those items

[coarse mesa]

Most imported weapons work just fine

[vast bane]

its from the duergar in an adventure module

so its stuff that primate made or his community did atleast

[ancient flare]

this is the definition of a corner case

[coarse mesa]

Ah right, yep he'd prob be keen to know then

[vast bane]

its a very very weird interaction is all but he probably has a bunch of adventures with duergar specifically

I know dotmm has some

[coarse mesa]

Yeah that wouldn't have happened for me, this is how mine is set

If save present for rwak/mwak for monsters that have an extra save vs poison damage or whatever. And off for spells because Toll the Dead has versatile damage (for when creatures are wounded)... and it was rolling both until I turned this off

[vast bane]

you would have issues with weapons that use activation conditions though

[coarse mesa]

Yeah we don't luckily... it's a weird set of options tbh

[vast bane]

did you go into dotmm from dragonheist?

[coarse mesa]

Yep

[vast bane]

are you a player or a dm?

[coarse mesa]

Player... assuming we missed a magic weapon you know of, or maybe we didn't but aren't using it

[vast bane]

yes 😉

[coarse mesa]

Our only melee character uses a polearm

[vast bane]

Well only if the Cassalanters were your villain