MidiQOL

[dark canopy]

AA is sitting under all of that adding time

[molten solar]

TM is in fact pretty lightweight in comparison. It doesn't update multiple actors every time you move

[dark canopy]

but you do it, its demonstrably a heavy DB updating module

[dark canopy]

this was in reference to attaching doors to the edges for DoorMacro triggers

[vast bane]

I just want a sheet that puts the biography, or a lil description field below special traits/onuse macros on the front of npc sheets

[molten solar]

AA adds/deletes effects all the time, right?

[dark canopy]

and scans on move

[molten solar]

Yeah don't do that lmao

You could
but do not.

[vast bane]

I hate having to have my roleplay notes in weird places instead of at a glance on the sheet

[dark canopy]

this would be the tiniest worldscript/module

[violet meadow]

Hey I just wanted to try. Not that I will put it in a production world 😄

[vast bane]

what do you guys do for your voice/rp details of npcs?

[molten solar]

Practice an accent in the shower.

[violet meadow]

what's that 😄

[vast bane]

no I mean for reference guide

[dark canopy]

map pins or bio

[vast bane]

like in person I use index cards, here, I go to the bio tab

[molten solar]

Got a quick-reference document in another window

[violet meadow]

Well the things #1010273821401555087 can do are endless it seems !! 😛

[molten solar]

Yeah; it can use all my modules for example.

[vast bane]

I wonder what the stats are for this sub channel vs the other main channels lol

[molten solar]

40% warpgate, 50% zhell, 10% "how do I show my item's description"

[vast bane]

while considering this is really a quarentine channel if anything

[coarse mesa]

This works better than the forum channels like the new #1037064665718587392 imo

[vast bane]

my one gripe is that you can't search JUST in #1010273821401555087 , you have to search the whole of dnd5e

unless theres an option I'm missing in the search field

[pallid light]

Anyone know of a way to make Spirit Guardians work as intended? Ie not target allies, save prompts at enemy turns and that's also when damage would actually go off.

[vast bane]

in v9, use the midi sample item, in v10, install the active auras fork from mrprimate and repeat v9 step

[pallid light]

Thanks, where do I find the midi sample item?

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL sample Items compendium

[pallid light]

I think I'm installing it wrong... I've downloaded the latest release, put it into a folder called active-auras, and then restarted foundry, but it won't add to the list. Do I install Kandashi's version and then overrwrite what is there with this fork?

[violet meadow]

Are we talking about Active Auras v10?
If yes, install manually this version https://github.com/MrPrimate/Active-Auras/releases/download/v0.4.23/module.json from the (unofficial) Mr Primates AA fork

[pallid light]

Weird, I did that and it said there was no manifest. Tried it again when you pasted it, still didn't work, then tried it again and it worked

third time's a char,

charm*

ty

[vast bane]

for me I have to use the raw links

[pallid light]

Okay great it's working. Now that I know that item tab exists I am playing with it. Aura of Protection seems to work, but for some reason whenever it falls off it throws a missing key error (though it is applying and falling off properly) any way to suppress the error?

[vast bane]

do you mean the embedded document error thing

I see it all the time when outside combat

[violet meadow]

It will keep happening every now and then. As we were discussing earlier, so many database interactions with AA that is bound to get de-synced at points

[vast bane]

its kinda why they suggest not to use outside combat

[violet meadow]

Reload to get rid of it

[pallid light]

Okay so it is a "just happens and live with it" thing.

[vast bane]

oh is that a v10 problem? in v9 I just let it fade,

[pallid light]

it fades

Was just wondering if I could get rid of it altogether

[violet meadow]

It will keep harassing you that the key does not exist

[vast bane]

use babonus version of aura

you will see it alot less often if you turn off movement animation 🧠

I think its caused by movement while many clients are connected maybe?

or a slow host?

I don't even see that problem anymore I don't think

[pallid light]

i used bab, still happened and it actually double applied the aura to one of the tokens

probably slow host, using a small vps

[vast bane]

it seems like it just never has to calculate the inbetween squares when movement is skipped

I think you had both on by accident if you had bab going?

bab doesn't show visual references does it bugbear?

[violet meadow]

You don't need an Active Aura defined for Babonus

[vast bane]

yeah you have turned on both ways by accident

thats probably gonna be crazy lag

[dark canopy]

(again, babonus has no runtime cost)

[vast bane]

bab is the alternative to active auras, not meant to be used with it

[pallid light]

ah

[vast bane]

but I think bab doesn't have a visual reference

if you use active auras for the visual referenc,e you might as well just use active auras only then lol

[violet meadow]

You mean to create an icon on affected tokens?

[vast bane]

yeah

[violet meadow]

Yeah that is a db transaction right there 😄

[vast bane]

its the main reason why I'll probably still use active auras, but mostly also cause I'll strive to trim modules and active auras+midi+midi srd is just simpler for a bloke like me than rebuilding everything again in bab/effect macro

[violet meadow]

I would create an "aura" with the Token Auras module to indicate radius

[molten solar]

Why?

They are two entirely different modules.

[violet meadow]

True. Different cases. Both usable and unique in their own way

[vast bane]

I'm sure there are ways to use them differently but in his specific case, it defeated the purpose and caused problems

[violet meadow]

With a bit of overlap in specific usecases

[pallid light]

I can live with the fading out, just seeing if there was an easy way to make it say goodbye permanently

[violet meadow]

Down to "user error" (no offence Puggahz just making a point) to use both "Auras" at the same time

[pallid light]

None taken, didn't even know what BAB was so I was just dragging things and hoping they worked

[molten solar]

There are, they are entirely different modules. Babonus is very much not "the alternative to AA". I'd prefer if you didn't spread misinformation like this in the future.

[vast bane]

This is #1010273821401555087 the user was having trouble using aura of protection right. We discovered they were using babonus and active auras together generating a feedback loop. I have no idea what your comments here are about, but it sounds like your problem was something I never did, so I think we are good.

[violet meadow]

☮️ and 🎲

[vast bane]

my point is that he didn't scroll up to see what we were talking about, he took my comment out of context.

[vague relic]

Heyo, need a little help figuring out how to do a life steal effect. I'm basically modeling it off of the Longsword of Life Stealing from the MidiQOL sample compendium, but that sample item isn't working, and I'm not sure why. Basically the attack uses the Other damage field to deal necrotic, and then heals the source actor for the necrotic damage dealt (as well as increases resources.primary.value by 1 (or 3 if it reduces a humanoid target to 0 hit points) but i can live with doing that manually). Item description posted below for reference

[violet meadow]

The sample Item needs to be equipped and attuned to iirc

[vague relic]

I'm trying to adapt it to a feature, as those don't have equipping/attunement. Would it just work if I straight up paste the ItemMacro into the feature and set it up the same way, even with it calling for attunement?

[vast bane]

its got a check for attunement somewhere in it

[violet meadow]

Need to change some filters as it checks -- yeah as Moto said

[vague relic]

I'm still having a hard time understanding 😅 , this is how i have it setup so far

as it is, it isn't applying the healing

[undone sorrel]

Is the "GM Inspiration" feature included in the Midi Sample Items compendium working?

To be clear when I say working, I mean does it prompt the user to choose whether to use their gm inspiration on a roll, like bardic inspiration does?

It also seems to have an item macro set up to delete the item from your sheet and I'm not sure why

[vast bane]

yeah its right there in the first meaty item macro line

[undone steppe]

hey guys, I'm trying to create a macro for the blood hunter class where you can choose a weapon, and after it's chosen the weapon deals extra damage until the buff on the player expires. the midi magic weapon macro used to work, but in v10 it seems it doesn't. is there a new way to do this? thanks in advance

[vast bane]

gotta trim off the attunement part of that

[vast bane]

if you are on v10, I believe bab is a great module for weapon specific modifiers

Build a Bonus

is the magic weapon a midi srd premade?

[undone steppe]

its the old premade one

i think the new one doesnt have the macro stored on the item

[vast bane]

k

[vague relic]

so like this? How would I go about changing it from adding to hp.temp to hp.value instead?

[vast bane]

isn't there a vampiric touch in midi sample in v10?

I swear theres one somewhere that someone made

I'm elbows deep in my v9 build so I can't check for you

[vague relic]

i don't see one here, but thank you for the help regardless

[vast bane]

try searching here, I know for a fact bugbear asked me for my old weird life transferrance macro for something like what you wanted, and wound up makin something for someone in v10 that was very lifestealish like. Its gonna be something posted by the user Thatlonelybugbear in #dnd5e (technically this channel but you can't search sub channels so use the master dnd5e in the search. I forget what item they were making but I think it may have been vampiric touch.

[vague relic]

alrighty, thanks!

[scarlet gale]

#1010273821401555087 message

I posted my item macro for it awhile back

[violet meadow]

Sounds about right

[vast bane]

I have the reverse of it, life transferance

[scarlet gale]

V9 however, you'll want to change a few references to system

[vast bane]

I don't think hes making vampiric touch so much though, he just wants a lifesteal feature

[scarlet gale]

Can be easily edited to do that

[vast bane]

yeah

[scarlet gale]

hitTargets.length need to be changed to hitTargets.size too

[violet meadow]

args[0].hitTargets.length is OK.
But workflow.hitTargets.size if not mistaken, right?

[scarlet gale]

Oh maybe

Yea you're right

[coarse mesa]

I got it working in v9 with a bit of the old and a bit of the new... thank goodness for github history 🙂

(do tposney and mr primate know you're running a superior version now?)

[molten solar]

you probably only needed to replace all instances of system with data.data

[coarse mesa]

almost

[molten solar]

since all it really does is muck about with spell slots and item uses

[molten solar]

i mean that's just a given

[coarse mesa]

These bits were a wee bit different in the v10 version ```js
await actor.update({"data.spells": spells});
await item.update({"data.uses.value": Math.clamped(spvalue - conversion_map[level], 0, spmax)});

BTW your macro shuts down the whole coffeelock shenanigans but that's ok as I'm not into that loophole

[molten solar]

sure, I changed it up a bit, general code improvements, but that snippet there would just be a swap of data and system

[coarse mesa]

while in there I noticed your Eyes of Night... 120' 👀

[molten solar]

player and I agreed that there was zero reason for 300ft

the twisanct is also nerfed to 15ft

[coarse mesa]

yeah WotC really asleep at the wheel during that playtest

[violet meadow]

I need to ban all books out in the last (almost) two years... talking about imbalance 😄

[vague relic]

I found it, and it worked!! Thanks a ton for pointing me in that direction

[vast bane]

balance is a myth, the second your players get 6th level spells shit gets crazy anyway. Embrace the chaos and drop a Thunder of Dragons on the party and call it a day.

[vague relic]

Sorry to bug you again, but is there a way to make this damage workflow and actor.update only happen if the attack hits? The effect is tied to an attack, and I have no idea how to make these two things only happen if the attack hits

[vast bane]

you should ping @violet meadow for those questions, I'm just a newb with macro stuff.

[scarlet gale]

Why not just have the item or feature do the damage and just read what it does?

[violet meadow]

Just add as a first line if (!args[0].hitTargets.length) return;

[gilded yacht]

Next release of DAE will have an optional ",permanent" for the item uuid spec. When present the item won't get deleted.

so what would a warpgate integration look like? I'm not at all averse to the idea.

[vague relic]

Thank you!!

[dark canopy]

hey, just a quick note (movie intermission). With the idea of a createItem "operator", i could imagine similar wrappings of warpgate (if you so desired). Things like "applyMutation" or "removeMutation". Just a little baby thought

though...it being token centric is a little troublesome....im considering opening it up to actor only mutations before the v2 rework

if this is interesting, maybe its worth pursuing

[pulsar apex]

when I set a DAE effect with a preset condition, does it actually apply the condition? or do I need to add the effects that are stated in the condition

[violet meadow]

It should apply all the "effect changes" if it's a preset and it points to that status effect

[pulsar apex]

where does midi pull it's preset conditions though?

because I assume editing the condition that I make on this specific spell will only change it for this spell

[violet meadow]

DFreds CE and MidiQOL work really well together

[pulsar apex]

i have Dfreds

[violet meadow]

Go to DFreds CE as a GM and change the settings to Replace the default conditions with the DFreds ones.

[pulsar apex]

the modify status effects setting?

ok awesome that's working perfectly with poison

so I imagine all of the dfred effects it has listed are all automated then? are can be assumed to be?

[violet meadow]

All the Statuses that you can put on a DAE are.

You can create your own DFreds CE and right click on them, set as Status Effect (needs a reload) and these will also get picked up by MidiQOL

[pulsar apex]

oh wow that's amazing. so i can create custom conditions that I don't even have to worry about integrating

[violet meadow]

Pretty much yes

For example I created Disarmed, right click, Toggle Status Effect (will reload) and then you can use it in DAE

[pulsar apex]

wait so how do you make it initially?

[violet meadow]

Create a new Custom Effect

[pulsar apex]

omg how did I not see this menu before!

and hitting toggle status effect places it on whoever you're targeting or?

[violet meadow]

You will need to be able to transfer effects to targets
MidiQOL settings => Workflow settings => Workflow tab

You need to Auto apply item effects and Convenient Effects

[pulsar apex]

oh wow it overrides stuff i already made too

I guess if I don't want it to override I need to do apply item effects, if absent apply CE

[violet meadow]

Yeah you will need to play a bit around with these options to find what you are comfortable with.

If you auto apply CE, you will find a checkbox in any item's details tab towards the bottom, Do not apply convenient effects

[pulsar apex]

yeah tbh I think I'm throwing myself in too deep when I shouldn't have. I'm trying to get animations, sound effects, and automation done on all spells and it's forcing me to get acquainted with pretty much all of my modules all at once

[violet meadow]

Can toggle it per item too if need be

[violet meadow]

Oh yes take it one step at a time, to better realise your needs and what can be done with different modules

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht If I do something like that ```js
Hooks.once("midi-qol.preDamageRoll", (workflow) => {
return false;
});

[chrome gale]

I'm trying to make ammunition which has 'elemental' damage effects (so 'shock arrow' does 1d6 lightning, for example) but it doesn't seem to work? It always uses the damage type of the weapon, and not the ammo

the weapon does 0 damage, and its damage type is 'none', but the damage roll is still not lightning (it's instead ...() I think ... )

is there a way around this

I thought maybe using the Other field might be an answer... but midi seems to completely ignore the Other field on ammunition

[scarlet gale]

Can probably be done with an item macro on the weapon

Or a worldscript if you want it to work on everything without having to add it to specific weapons

[chrome gale]

I mean it'll only be on one or two weapons so thats not an issue

but it'll need to work with however many different special ammos I end up inventing for it

[scarlet gale]

Do you want it to fully replace the damage type? Or just add extra damage of that type?

[chrome gale]

well the weapon does zero damage

innately

the damage and special effects are all on the ammo

[scarlet gale]

Does it apply the special effect of the ammo?

[chrome gale]

the ammos vary. Some do elemental damage, some do special effects, some do both

[scarlet gale]

hmm

Swapping damage type is one thing

ok cool, looks like it does apply the active effect from the ammo

[dark canopy]

you can put a damage tag on the ammo's damage

[chrome gale]

hmm I may have solved it... jankily. If I make the weapon do 0 damage, and put the psychic damage in the ammo 'other' field, it seems to actually work

[chrome gale]

I already had this, but midi completely wouldn't see or roll the 'other' field. But I got it working now, by making the weapon roll "0 damage" instead of no damage. So it's a little jank

[dark canopy]

yea, its remarkably hard to get the actual damage type to come through from ammo

among other things

[chrome gale]

if you have a cleaner method I'm happy to try it

[vast bane]

if you remove the damage formula entirely, likie the field, it should stop throwing the error

[chrome gale]

Tried that, theres no error, it just doesnt roll any damage or anything at all from the ammo

just does the attack and then stops

[scarlet gale]

Whipping up a quick item macro to just hot swap out the damage type with that from the ammo

Should be fairly simple

[chrome gale]

Simple is what I like to hear

I can cope with simple lol

[vast bane]

oh, for my archer build I just make a bunch of bows that do the unique effects and have them have charges on the items and the player just picks their ammo by rolling the right bow

[chrome gale]

yeh I considered that, but I prefer the "one bow, many ammos" as it's more... correct?

It would just bug me

As with many things, noone else would probably even notice the difference

but -I'd- know

[vast bane]

I'm not a fan of always prompt attacks

[chrome gale]

what do you mean?

[scarlet gale]

let ammoItemUuid = args[0].item.system.consume.target;
if (!ammoItemUuid) return;
let actor = args[0].actor;
let ammoItem = await actor.items.get(ammoItemUuid);
let workflow = await MidiQOL.Workflow.getWorkflow(args[0].uuid);
let damageFormula = ammoItem.system.damage.parts[0][0];
if (!damageFormula) return;
workflow.damageRoll = await new Roll(damageFormula).roll({async: true});
workflow.damageTotal = workflow.damageRoll.total;
workflow.damageRollHTML = await workflow.damageRoll.render();```

Bit dirty

But it works

Should be a "After Damage Roll" Item Macro

@chrome gale

[chrome gale]

hmm I roll damage, and it rolls the d4 dice from the ammo... but doesn't put anything in the card

I've clicked damage, a d4 rolled, but nothing then happened. So I assume it's hitting a wall somewhere

[scarlet gale]

Any error in console?

[chrome gale]

VM4582:4 Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'consume')
[Detected 1 package: midi-qol]
    at eval (eval at callMacro (workflow.js:1446), <anonymous>:4:42)
    at Workflow.eval (eval at callMacro (workflow.js:1446), <anonymous>:14:4)
    at Workflow.callMacro (workflow.js:1447)
    at Workflow.callMacros (workflow.js:1373)
    at Workflow._next (workflow.js:547)
    at async Workflow.next (workflow.js:261)

[steel apex]

Hi all, I've got this bit of code in a macro that finds nearby allies, but it does not include the token itself in this. Is there any way to modify this so that it finds the token plus its allies? using it in a Fiery Teleportation spell so need it to be able to identify the caster and the allies.

let friendlies = MidiQOL.findNearby(CONST.TOKEN_DISPOSITIONS.FRIENDLY, tokenD, 7.5, null);```

[scarlet gale]

You on v10 or v9?

[chrome gale]

oh im still on v9 at present, is this a thing that'll work in v10? I'll be migrating after the next session probably

[scarlet gale]

Yea, made this for v10

I assumed lol

[chrome gale]

ok thats fine as I have my janky workaround that'lll work for this session

[scarlet gale]

it's an easy swap

I think it should just be as simple as changing .system to .data.data

Might just be a single .data

[scarlet gale]

If this is in an item macro, you already know the caster, you can just add it to the returned set or array

[chrome gale]

if I do this I may forget how to change it back lol, so I'll just save it as (v10) copy in my item list and sort it next week 🙂 thanks

[steel apex]

Yes it is part of an item macro. This was a macro that someone wrote for me so am not sure how to do what you say. Am running v10 at the moment, if that matters.

[scarlet gale]

Can you throw a console.log(friendlies); after that line and expand it? Then screenshot it?

It's either returning an array or set

[steel apex]

I 'think' this is what you're after. Brother Silas was the friendly next to the caster. My macro fired and teleported Silas but didn't teleport the caster itself as it wasn't being found / identified as a friendly.

[scarlet gale]

Ok cool

it's just an array

add the following:

friendlies.push(token);```

After that line

actually hold on

let me double check that token works there

[steel apex]

ok

Think it works, just tried it and now the caster is teleporting as well.

And the console.log now shows this:
where 0 is Brother Silas and 1 is the caster. You're a legend, thank you so much.

[vast bane]

I am trying to make an active effect completely inside of an item macro, however I do not know how to make it apply to target in this macro and I do not know how to fill in the flag and effect value in this macro. Here is what I got so far:

const specialSauce = min(floor((@item.level - 1) / 2), 3)

const effectData = {
    label: args[0].item.name,
    icon: args[0].item.img,
    duration: {seconds:3600},
    flags: {core: {statusId: }}
}
await token.actor.createEmbeddedDocuments("ActiveEffect", [effectData]);

And here is what I want the ae to look like:

also will that work, @item.level or do I have to do args there?

[scarlet gale]

Easiest way is to just make the effect on a item or feature then just export it and copy out the effect data

[vast bane]

how would I make it apply to target in the macro?

[scarlet gale]

I'm about to start my D&D game, but there should be tons of examples of people adding an effect to a token floating around or in #macro-polo .

A quick and dirty way is to just make it a DFreds Convenient Effects

Then use it's API methods to apply it

[vast bane]

I actually discovered that advantage reminder is versatile enough to take the complex math, with a few hiccups gonna ask in dnd5e for help on how to fix it

[gilded yacht]

No that's not intended. I'll have a look.

[gilded yacht]

Definitely should work - dm me the ammo you have created and I'll have a look

[gilded yacht]

Midi checks if the item has damage and if not does not try and roll damage at all - so if there is no damage it does not try and roll the ammo damage. But ammo damage with a type (not just the other field) is supposed to work.

[gilded yacht]

What you want to do is supposed to work (and does in my game) so something odd is going on.

[gilded yacht]

There is a problem with ammo damage that I'll have a look at. For the moment put the damage formula for the ammo as 1d10[acid] even if the damage type drop down is set to Acid (or whatever you are trying to set it to) - for some reason midi is ignoring the ammo damage type, which I'll have to have a look at.

[glacial burrow]

I have a dae.delete.Uuid with an Effect Value of Actor.KwhQFsSncAEpnXdN.Item.uWUPD3RSS5Nob1tR from a feature that I draged in Effect Value from the actor. How can I change "Actor.KwhQFsSncAEpnXdN.Item.uWUPD3RSS5Nob1tR" so that it will delete the feature every time?

[vast bane]

in my experience this problem is because you have more than one module deleting templates earlier than midi can and midi just sits there like the travolta meme unsure what to do with things. Its almost always automated animations thats doing the deletion. And if you wanted to get efficiently technical here, you should want midi to handle auto deletion of templates because midi is 1 setting that controls all, and automated animations is each individual animations settings which is a pain in the ass no matter what way you go, but technically midi is the better setting to go with.

Also in v9 you can't turn that setting off in midi I don't think, so you have to turn off aa's checkboxes on all the animations.

hmm, I can't remember if its midi or dae now

[gilded yacht]

I'm having trouble imagining what the effect UI would look like for players.

[glacial burrow]

I use v10. My problem is I have a item that create a feature with heal proprieties. That feature (feat) has an Active Effect with Atribute Key: flags.dae.deleteUuid and Effect Value with the feat id (Actor.KwhQFsSncAEpnXdN.Item.uWUPD3RSS5Nob1tR) so every time the feat is created from that item this Effect Value is different. How do I know what the feat id is that when his Active Effects duration expire it will delete it? Is this make sense? 😄

[sudden crane]

Normally this flag should be added programmatically, by a macro, otherwise like you said you cannot specify the proper uuid.
For a barbarian feature that added effects to rage, I did something similar, from the feature macro I got the effect for Rage and added the dae.deleteUuid with the uuid of the effect from the extra feature. So that when the rage effect ends or is deleted, the extra effect is also deleted

@gilded yacht A small error in your last DAE version for actorUpdate, typo in executeAsGM, you wrote execuateAsGM.
Also would it be preferable to verify if the current user can update the actor before sending the request to the GM?
Last point, the registered socket name is “_updateActor“ but all your other registered socket names do not start with an _, normally you only used that for the name of the function that is called.

[violet meadow]

Create the effect as you want it exactly on a test actor manually, preferably linked and with a token on the scene (or select a token and create the AE on that one).
Select the actor's token and open console.
Type ```js
_token.actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.data.label === "Name of the effect you created").toObject() //v9. For v10 to be future proof remove the .data

The structure of the logged effect is what you need more or less when you create it in a macro

Or get Developer Tools module. It can add a nifty shortcut on the title bar of every document, which when pressed will print it on the console.

[violet meadow]

Are we talking about creating something like a DAE macro execute call, like macro.applyMutation MacroName?

One would still need to create a warp gate macro with a revert callback included somehow

Maybe something like the way you drag an item on a createItem could work for macro IDs too, instead of only names 🤷

[dark canopy]

same, just a little baby thought that needs nurturing

[late fractal]

Hello again, my party has leveled up which means..more spells for me to figure out 🙂
First up I am working on Sleep. I have a version thats working well with DAE, the only bit I am hoping to improve is it automatically applies the effect to the caster if they are in the radius. Any way to exclude them?

[violet meadow]

Use Special in the 3rd box of Range in the Sleep item Details Tab

[vast bane]

Unless you are homebrewing the spell, it can affect the caster and allies, and it affects the lowest hp person first, and then works up from there.

I was unaware of a functional color spray/sleep automation, I thought it was impossible because of how they work

[manic tendon]

Does this work correctly in v10, automatically automating the Sleep spell? 😮

[late fractal]

@violet meadow worked perfectly thanks! @vast bane good point, i guess I wont implement the change but good to know how

[vast bane]

I don't see the item as automated?

[late fractal]

@manic tendon I dont have the whole HP application part working, but it does roll (no damage) and apply a convenient effect i dulicated from Unconscious. After that I have to remove it from creatures not affected

on to Spiritual Weapon. The Midi-SRD one is blowing up on me big time, everyone on the whole board is getting 2 spiritual weapons

[violet meadow]

There are fully automated sleep spells roaming around. I will check to see if I have something later

[vast bane]

Is it Oprah's Spiritual Weapon?

there is a midi sample item spiritual weapon that should be 10x better than midi srd's

[late fractal]

So first I tried one from "Midi SRD Spells", it was not working for me. Next I tried "MidiQOL Sample Items" version called "Spirital Weapon MQ10.0.13 + Warpgate". After I installed warpgate and created an Actor called Spiritual Weapon, it seems to be working

It creates the Actor anyway, still have to figure out how to control it in combat by the player

[dark canopy]

if the player spawns the weapon, they should be granted control of it

unless it is a linked actor that they do not have permission to

[late fractal]

I spoke too soon, the GM account test worked by switching over to a player throws an error 😦 foundry.js:58721 User tester lacks permission to create Token [Z2o1smuI4EYNiIwA] in parent Scene [ThMZGQza4wkkH1jJ]

[dark canopy]

the user needs permission to create tokens

[violet meadow]

Hmmm which MidiSRD version are you on?

[late fractal]

I tried installing this one https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/releases/tag/10.0.3

[late fractal]

this worked

[violet meadow]

OK. Do you happen to have the Automated Evocations - Companion Manager module?

[late fractal]

i do not currently have that installed

i am assuming its required then?

[violet meadow]

Not at all. I just found an incompatibility or rather an issue with the Automated Companion setting of that module

[late fractal]

oh ok. looks like an interesting module but ill leave it alone for now

[violet meadow]

And are you sure that you are using the Spiritual Weapon from Midi SRD?
In the ItemMacro of it, you should only see a MidiMacros.spiritualWeapon(args) line

Do you use DFreds CE?

If yes, then MidiQOL might be applying automatically the DFreds CE Spiritual Weapon effect too.
So make sure that you go into the spell's details page and near the bottom check the Do not apply convenient effects checkbox

[late fractal]

ok let me try that. I do use DFreds CE

[violet meadow]

I will be pushing an update, on the unofficial forked version, to make Shillelagh always check the spellcasting ability against caster's STR and automatically using the highest mod for the weapon's attack (probably need to make a case of the caster being also a monk and thus using STR or DEX ✍️ )
-- heck I will just be checking the @mod of the original weapon or something. Edge cases make my head ache

So if anyone has any more issues, let me know 😄

[late fractal]

Ok, once i removed DFred's CE the MidiSRD version works now (I think?). It spawns a weapon in the player inventory and allows them to place a rectangle template. Removing the temporary effect removes the template, so that all seems really good and doesnt require another actor. I did run into the problem that I had to increase the weapon range to attack since the spiritual weapon range of 5 feet blocks an attack from being made.

[violet meadow]

Ah yes, probably the range needs to be cleared from the attack.

[late fractal]

I see this macro that I assume is powering the weapon?

[violet meadow]

The macro is available to check, if you open the console and type MidiMacros.spiritualWeapon and press enter

Your attachment shows the DAE call to execute a macro, which is stored as an ItemMacro on the item, passing as extra arguments the level that the spell is cast at and the spellcasting modifier of the caster

Note to self: Might be better to use the castData to get the item.level instead passing it as extra parameters 🤔

[late fractal]

Can I edit that macro to have a larger range? i see it but have never edited something on the console

[sudden crane]

I thought about that also for other spells but, getting the castData is a little complicated, you need to go through the actor’s effects check if it has a castData flag and verify that the itemUuid is the one for the spell for which the macro executes…
Unless there is a simpler method?

[violet meadow]

give me 5 and I will push an update. Otherwise you ll need to do into the module's files and change it manually

[violet meadow]

Indeed. I was only thinking about it in the context of making it more contained. Like no need to have the item from Midi SRD. Just put the macro call in a DAE macro call and be done with it.

Still debating if it's worth it or not though 🤷

[late fractal]

oh thats great, thanks 🙂 I might need to dig in anyway though, as my next task is Flaming Sphere, which is very similar to spritual weapon I think

[violet meadow]

https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/releases/download/10.0.4/module.json

[pulsar apex]

When midi rolls saves and ability checks, how do I get it to roll the 3D dice?

[chrome gale]

So the weapon need to have a damage (even if its zero) but the ammo damage is meant to be working from the damage field, the other field isn't required? I'll dm the items I have when I'm at my pc in a bit

[vast bane]

install dice so nice

[pulsar apex]

I've got it and the disable 3D dice on NPC rolls isn't checked

[vast bane]

what about that other one next to it?

if you want the DM's rolls to work both those need to be set right, they are next to each other in dsn's settings

[pulsar apex]

if you mean Enable 3D dice on Inline rolls then it is checked

let me reload just in case

[vast bane]

and if it still doesn't work, disable all but dsn and see if the dice roll, then enable socketlib/libwrapper/midiqol and see if a midi roll shows dice, then you know its a problem with modules

if the roll you are trying to do is a custom macro, then that is a whole nother problem unrelated to modules

that you should share the macro here for so that someone can fix you

thoguh, its probably broken cause its not a midi macro

[pulsar apex]

reloading seems to have worked. was probably the dsn settings

[late fractal]

@violet meadow installed the update, once I turned off convenient effects again it works perfectly. Quick question, after combat is it expected that I would remove the temporary effect to dismiss the weapon?

[violet meadow]

It should also be auto deleted when the duration expires iirc

But yes as things now are, you need to delete the effect after combat ends.
Could make a case for specific spells deleting their effects when combat ends

[late fractal]

i could see it going either way, sometimes a player might ask to maintain it as long as possible

[violet meadow]

I will also check if I can flag spells like these to disable DFreds CE when created by default

[violet meadow]

Yeah safest choice would be for me to just let it expire based on duration

[late fractal]

if they are paranoid about another combat starting, or they want to immediately attack something else (I have done this myself, hehe)

soo to duplicate the very nice spiritual weapon for flame sphere..do i need to roll up my sleeves and dig into code?

[violet meadow]

I would really use the ones from the MidiQOL sample items compendium

[manic tendon]

Does this include a working sleep spell with a macro?

Or should I hunt for one?

Also, when I try to update it, it gives me this error

[late fractal]

i did an uninstall and reinstall

[torpid kestrel]

5E - I'm starting to work on a couple of damage shield type spells, and I seem to remember a feature that temporarily added a cantrip to the users list. Any ideas on what that was, or an example on how to do that? I'm thinking that adding a cantrip with a special activation cost would allow the user to apply damage to anyone who hit them, as many times as needed during a round. If anyone has a better solution I'm all ears.

[covert mason]

Does anyone know where I can find an example macro for this gif found on the Sequencer wiki?
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fantasycalendar/FoundryVTT-Sequencer/master/images/Animation2.gif

[kind cape]

Isn't that just a teleport setup using Automated Animations?

Nevermind, its right on the GH page

https://github.com/fantasycalendar/FoundryVTT-Sequencer/

Scroll down to the first advanced example @covert mason

[covert mason]

Doesn't seem to teleport the token when I click on a location to teleport to

let position = await warpgate.crosshairs.show({
    size: 1,
    tag: randomID(),
    label: "Teleport to",
    drawOutline: false,
    drawIcon: false
}, { show: async (crosshair) => {

    new Sequence()
        .effect()
            .from(token)
            .attachTo(crosshair)
            .persist()
            .opacity(0.5)
        .play();

}})

new Sequence()
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.chain_lightning.primary.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
    .wait(300)
    .effect()
        .from(token)
        .fadeIn(50)
        .duration(550)
        .fadeOut(250)
        .filter("Blur")
        .elevation(0)
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.chain_lightning.secondary.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
        .stretchTo(position)
        .elevation(0)
    .wait(100)
    .animation()
        .on(tokenD)
        .teleportTo(position)
        .snapToGrid()
        .waitUntilFinished()
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.static_electricity.03.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
        .scaleToObject()
    .sound()
        .file("/Sounds/Combat/Lightning_%26_Thunder/FX_Spell_Energy_Electrical*.ogg")
        .fadeInAudio(500)
        .fadeOutAudio(500)
    .play();```

[kind cape]

Just to confirm, you are on V10 right?

[covert mason]

V9

[kind cape]

Ah, elevation is a V10 thing, try and replace it with .belowTokens()

(There are 2 places where it needs to be replaced)

[covert mason]

Same error it seems. 😦

Oh, no wait, hold on

Different error this time

[covert mason]

let position = await warpgate.crosshairs.show({
    size: 1,
    tag: randomID(),
    label: "Teleport to",
    drawOutline: false,
    drawIcon: false
}, { show: async (crosshair) => {

    new Sequence()
        .effect()
            .from(token)
            .attachTo(crosshair)
            .persist()
            .opacity(0.5)
        .play();

}})

new Sequence()
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.chain_lightning.primary.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
    .wait(300)
    .effect()
        .from(token)
        .fadeIn(50)
        .duration(550)
        .fadeOut(250)
        .filter("Blur")
        .belowTokens()
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.chain_lightning.secondary.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
        .stretchTo(position)
        .belowTokens()
    .wait(100)
    .animation()
        .on(tokenD)
        .teleportTo(position)
        .snapToGrid()
        .waitUntilFinished()
    .effect()
        .file("jb2a.static_electricity.03.blue")
        .atLocation(token)
        .scaleToObject()
    .sound()
        .file("https://assets.forge-vtt.com/6148732b96e0aff7127b447b/Sounds/Combat/Lightning_Thunder/FX_Spell_Energy_Electrical_Impact*.ogg")
        .fadeInAudio(500)
        .fadeOutAudio(500)
    .play();```

[dark canopy]

Define tokenD

As the error indicates 🙂

[kind cape]

Wait, why is there a single reference to tokenD and the rest are for just token 🤔

[dark canopy]

C/p errors

[kind cape]

I feel like somebody might have mistyped 😛

So yeah, replace tokenD with token ^^

[covert mason]

Ah, yup, that was the issue.

let tokenD = canvas.tokens.controlled[0];
let position = await warpgate.crosshairs.show({
    size: 1,
    tag: randomID(),
    label: "Teleport to",
    drawOutline: false,
    drawIcon: false
}, { show: async (crosshair) => {

    new Sequence()

ETC...```

[dark canopy]

Not ideal, just use token as you do in the rest of the script

[covert mason]

Oh

[violet meadow]

No, there isn't one in the Midi SRD spells.
For the manifest, I had created a temporary one to get it going.

Can you try installing again using https://raw.githubusercontent.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/master/module.json

[manic tendon]

Might you have a sleep spell that's automated correctly handy?

[violet meadow]

Will take a look. I cannot access Foundry right now

[manic tendon]

Much thanks

[violet meadow]

I think I have one from v8 and updated it to v9, but by now the group hasn't much use of that sleep spell (high lvl) and got ... misplaced 😄

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/blob/main/macros/spells/sleep.js

[manic tendon]

I actually gave that a try and wasn't able to get it to work. I set the code as the item macro, then put ItemMacro AfterTargetingCompleted as the on use macro, and it didn't function.

[scarlet gale]

What would be a good use case for the new "preTargeting" feature in Midi?

Is this for something like changing the item data before it's looked at? Or potentially swapping it?

[coarse mesa]

I know a couple of us were thinking along the lines of creating a JB2A ring or the like that appears during late targeting so you can see the range (bit like the Misty Step anim)

[sudden crane]

It could have been used to change the range for spell sniper or sharpshooter before the flag were added… but now it could be used to change things that are validated before the pre item roll pass

[mossy falcon]

Hello All! 🙂 Happy Saturday.

Has anyone figured out how, in DnD 5e, v9, using MidiQol and Custom Effects, to create a temporary effect for Sacred Weapon such that it is LIMITED to a single weapon?
I can get the attack roll and the lighting without problem, but I can't figure out how to limit it to a specific weapon.

[violet meadow]

warpgate mutate the weapon you choose

Create a DAE macro.itemMacro on the Channel Divinity: Sacred Weapon feature.
Macro: ```js
/***************************************************************************

• DAE macro.execute or macro.itemMacro, *Warpgate needed, v9 Foundry macro *
• For v10 change the lines indicated in the body of the macro below. *
  ***************************************************************************/
  const tokenD = canvas.tokens.get(args.at(-1).tokenId);
  const weapons = tokenD.actor.itemTypes.weapon;
  if (args[0] === "on") {
  const data = {buttons: weapons.map(i => ({label: i.data.name, value: i.data.name})), title: "⚔️ Choose your Sacred Weapon:"}
  //for v10: replace the line above with the following one:
  //const data = {buttons: weapons.map(i => ({label: i.name, value: i.name})), title: "⚔️ Choose your Sacred Weapon:"}
  const mutationVal = await warpgate.buttonDialog(data, 'column')
  const updates = {
  embedded: {
  Item: {
  [${mutationVal}]: {
  "name": Sacred Weapon: ${mutationVal},
  "data": { //for v10: change the data on this line to system. This MUST be changed, otherwise the warpgate.revert will break.
  "attackBonus": "@abilities.cha.mod",
  "properties": {
  "mgc": "true"
  }
  }
  }
  }
  }
  }
  const options = {
  name: 'Empowered Sacred Weapon'
  }
  await warpgate.mutate(tokenD.document, updates, {}, options);

}
if (args[0] === "off") await warpgate.revert(tokenD.document, 'Empowered Sacred Weapon');

Should still be working hopefully

[mossy falcon]

Many thanks, thelonelybugbear. I suck at macros - I hope I don't blow the place up! LOL

[mossy falcon]

I have the feature configured correctly... I think ... but the macro is throwing some syntax errors.

Are these normal?

[violet meadow]

Don't mind the editor's "errors", except if its something like missing brackets etc

[mossy falcon]

oik

[mossy falcon]

I must have botched it...

[violet meadow]

DAE macro.itemMacro to execute this

Not onUse

[mossy falcon]

I'm afraid I don't understand...

I'm not sure how to get DAE to call on a macro.

I'll try to look that up, but I'm not sure what you're referencing to.

[violet meadow]

DMing you

[mossy falcon]

Thank you!

[steel apex]

Are people using macro editor on v10? It doesn’t seem to work on my item macros but works fine for my hot bar macros.

(Going to set up that Sacred Weapon macro later)

[violet meadow]

I use Monaco Editor

[violet meadow]

There is small bug in Item Macro module. Way to fix https://github.com/Kekilla0/Item-Macro/pull/55 (which I see hasn't yet been merged)

It would reopen a new ItemMacro in the same window, making a mess without the fix!

[coarse mesa]

Oh yeah I’ve lost a bit of work that way lol

[steel apex]

Ok thanks, I’ll use Monaco Editor for a while then. Thanks.

Not sure if that PR is the issue I’m seeing. Mine doesn’t change the formatting at all, just looks like the standard editor even though I’ve changed that macro sheet to use the Ace Macro Editor. Will user Monaco.

[gilded yacht]

Thanks for the heads up. Yes, it would be better to conform permission before updating. I chose _updateActor on purpose as it is not really meant to be available to user macros.

[honest dome]

Anyone have any tips on how to implement this? V9.Starting at 3rd level, whenever your hit points are less than half your maximum, you have resistance to bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage.

[spice kraken]

Are you using convenient effects?

[honest dome]

Yes.

[carmine mountain]

anyone know why I still need to target tokens to use inventory weapons even though I set "require targets to be selected: never" in midi? Checking range is also disabled
Forge, foundry v10 build 288, disabled all modules except the ones needed for midi, midi SRD and DAE.

[spice kraken]

Wait, idky I thought this was to be for all people and not a specific feature. You can mess around activation condition or something like that (been a minute since I launched foundry) and utilize @attributes.hp.value < (@attributes.hp.max / 2)

[violet meadow]

As you are using DFreds CE, duplicate its Wounded condition and edit it to give the resistances you want.
Then, if the MidiQOL setting for wounded to be applied automatically when <50% hp, it should be working as intended

Ah it's not for everyone

You would need to create a DAE onUpdateTarget, which monitors hp and triggers a macro when less than 50% hp

I will share an example when I am back at my desk

[sudden crane]

@gilded yacht do you think it would be possible to provide the castData to the macro data that is passed as args[0]?
It would be easier for macros to get the cast level, especially for macros that are not onUse macros on an item. It could be useful for damage bonus macros and actor onUse macros.
The question is more how to match a castData and a macro…
For an item macro, it could be matching the itemUuid with the one from an effect castData.itemUuid?
For world macro it would be trickier. Maybe find from which effect comes the macro call and match it’s origin with the an effect castData.itemUuid?

[violet meadow]

1. Create a DFreds Convenient Effect which will give the resistances you need.
2. Create a Foundry feature for the ability.
3. On the feature create a DAE and make it to Transfer to Actor on Item equip
   The DAE will also need an effect of macro.itemMacro | Custom | ItemMacro.Name of the feature you created or macro.execute | Custom | Name of a script macro you create in your Macro Folder
4. The ItemMacro or script macro should be the following (for v9 Foundry): ```js
   const lastArg = args.at(-1);
   const targetActor = fromUuidSync(lastArg.tokenUuid).actor;
   if (args[0] === "on") {
   let flagValue = foundry.utils.getProperty(targetActor, "flags.dae.onUpdateTarget") ?? [];
   const onUpdateData = {
   filter: "data.attributes.hp.value",
   sourceTokenUuid: lastArg.tokenUuid,
   targetTokenUuid: lastArg.tokenUuid,
   sourceActorUuid: lastArg.actorUuid,
   origin: lastArg.origin,
   macroName: "ItemMacro",
   flagName: "Resistances_based_on_HP"
   };
   flagValue.push(onUpdateData);
   await targetActor.setFlag("dae", "onUpdateTarget", flagValue);
   } else if (args[0] === "off") {
   const flagValue = (foundry.utils.getProperty(targetActor, "flags.dae.onUpdateTarget") ?? []).filter(onUpdateData => onUpdateData.flagName !== "Resistances_based_on_HP");
   await targetActor.setFlag("dae", "onUpdateTarget", flagValue);
   } else if (lastArg.tag === "onUpdateTarget") {
   const hasEffect = targetActor.effects.find(eff=>eff.getFlag('core','statusId')==="Convenient Effect: Prone");
   if (lastArg.updates.data.data.attributes.hp.value < targetActor.data.data.attributes.hp.max/2 && !hasEffect) {
   await game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect({effectName:"Prone", uuid:targetActor.uuid});
   }
   else if (lastArg.updates.data.data.attributes.hp.value >= targetActor.data.data.attributes.hp.max/2 && hasEffect) {
   await game.dfreds.effectInterface.removeEffect({effectName:"Prone", uuid:targetActor.uuid});
   }
   }

Note. Change the Name in these lines to match the DFreds CE you created. ```js
//here
const hasEffect = targetActor.effects.find(eff=>eff.getFlag('core','statusId')==="Convenient Effect: Prone");
//and here
await game.dfreds.effectInterface.addEffect({effectName:"Prone", uuid:targetActor.uuid});
//and here
await game.dfreds.effectInterface.removeEffect({effectName:"Prone", uuid:targetActor.uuid});

So if you name it Resistances when hp less than half replace Prone with all that

[vast bane]

Another usecase for createitem: Potion of Firebreath, but I dunno how to make it wearoff after 3 uses

probably have the attack use 3 charges and just have it fade on time

[violet meadow]

3 of 3 limited uses. Destroy on empty. Boom done

[vast bane]

yeah but the actual ae would be weird right, just have that wear off after like 10 minutes or something

should add that to midi srd, if its an srd item

We had a potion of fire breath ingame last night and thats what prompted me with the idea

[violet meadow]

You have the DAE createItem with a duration of 1 hour.
The created item will have 3 charges under limited uses.
onUse macro After Active Effects on the item, which will```
if item uses are 0 then Hooks.once midi-qol rollItem complete, delete the effect

I don't think its a SRD included Item though

[vast bane]

I think you are allowed to if you keep the description blank but I understand if you don't wanna do that

[sudden crane]

@violet meadow Why do you create the onUpdateTarget in a dae macro instead of adding directly an onUpdateTarget flag in the effect?

[vast bane]

When tposney chimed in on setting up premades, did folks make that idea happen, is the midi srd that step, or is it other stuff? I know Mrprimate has a ton of premade stuff in dndbeyond.

[violet meadow]

It wasn't firing properly if I use that on a Transfer to actor on item equip

you need to roll once the item and make it apply on self instead

I should try that again to check if it was malformed, but this works for sure so 🤷

[sudden crane]

Maybe we should tell Tim about it… don’t know if it could be fix easily

[violet meadow]

I think I had asked at some point, but with the workaround I actually forgot to chase it up 🤔

For sure I hadn't created an issue on the repo.

Will doublle check though before

[vast bane]

Thanksgiving is my official change over to v10 🫦

[violet meadow]

I found what I was referring to. <#macro-polo message>
And Tim's answer a couple of messages below.

Just to ask about it explicitly and make sure I got it right.

@gilded yacht If you want to create a flags.dae.onUpdateTarget for a passive effect that is supposed to be transferred on actor on item equip, the way that works for me is shown here: <#1010273821401555087 message>
During the on phase create the flag on the actor in a macro.

If I, instead, try to add directly an effect key flags.dae.onUpdateTarget, I cannot structure the Effect Value properly for DAE to pick it up correctly.

[hot flower]

hey all-- my cover calculation with midi and levels-autocover seems off. Tokens that are in the line of fire are providing +5 (three-quarters cover) when they should be only +2 (half-cover.) I

I'm seeing the following console messages:

hm. that's not very helpful.

that's what i'm seeing.

[main meadow]

Anyone have an issue where Midi is triggering an AE via CE but the effect is different (has no duration or effects, actually) than if I were to activate it directly from CE? The CE log message between the two workflows are slightly different so I suspect the code paths are different. Any ideas on this?

[violet meadow]

You probably have created a duplicate effect of the original one of a Custom one with the same name and this is always getting picked up by MidiQOL.

Check you Custom folder in DFreds CE

[violet meadow]

Have you tried with only the relevant modules to see if this is not some other module interference?

If yes maybe create an issue in the repository.

[main meadow]

If there is one, the UI is not showing it. Do you know where on the file system these are created? This happens for more than just one spell

[violet meadow]

What do you have selected in the Midi settings => Workflow Settings => workflow tab, under Auto Apply CE ?

Do the items that have this behaviour when rolled have any DAE on them?

[vast bane]

I think it would be wise to clear the usual suspect, @main meadow do you have Combat Utility Belt installed?

[main meadow]

"apply CE if not there from the item." However, I stripped everything from the spell to make sure this was not the issue

no CUB

[vast bane]

does the item have an active effect on it?

[main meadow]

no. i stripped all that.

[vast bane]

ok, on the actual canvas actor, or on a sidebar actor, confirm the sheet of the guy on the canvas, this is a thing, so if you are unaware of unlinked actors weirdness say so

[main meadow]

it doesn't even apply the duration in the spell correctly....

There are the two messages in the log (first is from Midi):
dfreds-convenient-effects | Added effect Fire Shield to Akra (Dragonborn Cleric) - EMVX1eklHJELYlSV dfreds-convenient-effects | Added effect Fire Shield (Cold Resistance) to Akra (Dragonborn Cleric) - EMVX1eklHJELYlSV

[vast bane]

double click the token on the canvas of the dude with the spell, then edit that item and show us the details tab in its entirety and the active effect tab

oh its a nested

its probably just broken cause of ate

do you have the ate fork?

and are you on v10?

I honestly recommend using the premade in midi/somewhere here rather than dfreds version

[main meadow]

ATE fork, yes. and am on v10. This was my 'hell week' of trying to get it all working.

[vast bane]

its probably fubarred in dfreds, we can't edit his nested ae's unless you go into his code

find the fireshield, likely made by bugbear honestly, and use that instead

[dark canopy]

can you show an image of the tokens?

[main meadow]

I am actually not too sure where bugbear would put his creations. is there some module with a compedium?

[vast bane]

fire shield has a light component I believe, so that could really screw up in v10 due to how ATE is experimental atm

[vast bane]

pure guess here not on v10 myself but this looks to be his:
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[main meadow]

ah. even without ATE it still doesn't work.

[vast bane]

check your versions

foundry, dnd5e, midi, dae, effect macro, and dfreds CE, do NOT assume you are up to date if you hit the update button, confirm on thier sites whether you have the newest or say your verisons here

v10 loves to fool users into thinking you have v10 compliant modules installed when you don't

[main meadow]

ah. will do. updates are buggy these days?

[vast bane]

depends on the authors, midi was one of the modules that had its manifests setup right but a bunch of authors had issues and now those manifests tend to be the ones that fail to update to v10 using the update button

[main meadow]

Hmm. I hadn't installed effect macro. never heard of that one. That's a new requirement?

all else was up to date correctly

[vast bane]

if you use bugbears version above it is

EM is like a new meta for premade stuff in midi cause it lets you store the macros in the ae instead of relying on folder macros

[violet meadow]

Hmmm I might have mistakenly added Effect Macro, instead of Item Macro

Need to check this 😄

Probably that version is with Effect Macro though 🤔

[main meadow]

oh well. In any case, I guess it isn't too hard to just trigger the effect from CE in these weird cases. Am I the only one that has this issue that you all have seen?

[violet meadow]

What is the DFreds CE version?

[main meadow]

3.0.2

In any case, this was the least of my problems. I was floored when my compendiums had all their images broken.

[violet meadow]

Ask in #macro-polo for the packs migration script

[main meadow]

ah cool.

Thanks

[vast bane]

I just went the opposite way, I am moving pathfinder and dnd5e's icons to my data structure to avoid this issue going forward, I know its duplicate work, but now I don't have to have pathfinder installed lol.

[violet meadow]

Do you have lots of custom convenient effects made? You can export them and then I would reset the module just to be safe.

[vast bane]

does dfreds have a migration setup for v10?

[violet meadow]

No need to do anything. Just update and it works 🤷

[vast bane]

what version of ATE do you have installed?

[hot flower]

This is what I have. Arrow is the targeting path:

that's triggering a +5 to AC

[dark canopy]

oh, right, not Helpers/Simbuls cover calc

[jagged bear]

With workflow.setDamageRoll, can you update the damage roll in preDamageRollComplete? I'm getting an updated chat card, but the damage dealt is the original damage

Now it started working? Wat. The target had no resistances, but resaving its resistances fixed it?

[main meadow]

i had the fork, but it's turned off now

[steel apex]

Hi all, i'm looking at setting 'Produce Flame' using the new createitem function. I'm able to create the 'throw flame' item but as is a one-use attack how do I get it to be destroyed after the use? Do I need to tie it to a DAE macro args[0] on / off type active effect?

[vast bane]

the janky way is to have the throw item have 1 charge, destroy on empty, and then have the ae's duration be like 18 seconds

[steel apex]

hmmm ok, I'll have a think if this is how I want to proceed. Thanks.

[vast bane]

bugbear replied to me above with how to make charges kill the ae too but he was loose with instructions

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[jagged bear]

Figured this out - the attack had a save, which automatically halved the damage - and I figured out that you cannot change the formula of a roll to multiply the roll after the fact

[jagged bear]

Also figured this out, I was doing rollData.formula = "(" + rollData.formula + ")*2", which MidiQOL translated to formula + 2, while the roll displays correctly. @gilded yacht is this a bug, you think?

rollData.formula = rollData.formula + "+" + rollData.formula; works

[violet meadow]

@steel apex I will share a sample item when I have some time.

You need to delete the spell effect when the charges are all used up, correct?

[vast bane]

I feel like this use case can get repeated for many items in dnd5e honestly so yeah a sample item would probably do us all some good.

[violet meadow]

You could use the midi-qol properties checkboxes, at the bottom to give the item full damage on save

[steel apex]

Yes, thank you very much that would be great.

[undone sorrel]

So if you use the flags.midi-qol.optional flags with reroll as the parameter it sends a private to GM message with both rolls even for rolls that are blind to GM. Is it possible to disable that?

[calm nebula]

Okie dokie - another channel to get to know the experts in! More new friends.

I would like to have my attack & damage rolls be automatic and an option for the damage for the players. Is there a way to do that in Midi QoL?

[zenith willow]

Beginner question - probably a painfully obvious mistake. Have an enemy actor with a ability that grants a DAE. The DAE duration is dynamically set by a macro. Seems like no matter what I set the duration to, the DAE always disappears after the first round. Any idea why?

[vast bane]

its possible but your wording is confusing so clarify what you want. Damage is easily managed, its in the workflow button/workflow tab in the Damage section.

[calm nebula]

I did find that now. It was a bit easier than I expected. It was just a check box. I'm stupid at times. (Intimidated by computers would be more accurate). Thanks @vast bane

Is there anyway to make the "Mace & attack/damage" in one box instead of having the mace separate?

[vast bane]

I don't know where it is in v10's settings cause I'm still on v9, but theres two options in midi, one is merge card, and the other is like reduce formatting or something I forget, but they are next to each other and in v9 they are very close to the top of a tab

[calm nebula]

Merge ok thanks

[vast bane]

I will say, you need to turn off whatever module is combining those cards

[calm nebula]

I don't have anything combining the cards

[coarse mesa]

DF Chat Enhancements I think… I use it with merge cards just fine

[vast bane]

it was the cause for a bug with cub/midi name hiding. I already sent them a DM how to fix that

though I've lived so long on an old version of cub now that I don't even know if its still a problem lol

[calm nebula]

I found a Quick set up and thoght that would be the trick.... now nothing rolls

I had to reset default

[vast bane]

if nothing rolls then you got module conflicts, you know not to cross the streams right?

[calm nebula]

I do know that

I just dont want to turn everything off again

[vast bane]

No better rolls for 5e, no minimal roll enhancements, no ready set roll, no fast rolls by default, no roll groups

[calm nebula]

I'm crying atm

[vast bane]

install find the culprit, its a very easy tool that makes finding bad modules simple

[calm nebula]

I don't have any rolling modules besides Midi. I only had better rolls until I stepped to v10.

I have that module, running it now

[vast bane]

DF chat enhancements is another possible culprit but also whats causing the unique image modifications in your snippet

cause thats not core

the marble coloring

[calm nebula]

Oh you mean the Ice UI?

I ran find the culprit and nothing popped up

[vast bane]

what does cha tlook like when you roll a basic attack from the starter heroes

you probably just have no target and "require targets" turned on if nothing is happening and no errors are around

[calm nebula]

Ok, I just turned Attack back on after the hard reset and its giving me exactly what I want.

Sooooo I must have had something else punched in some place that was making life a challenge. Thanks @vast bane

[coarse mesa]

@violet meadow – no rush at all but I'm finally getting around to making a Sickening Radiance, taking advantage of that snippet you gave me for exhaustion. I thought I'd use Cloudkill as a base or maybe Spirit Guardians... but I have yet to find a premade that successfully applies damage on turn start OR if you enter on any turn as it should work RAW. The old When a creature moves into the spell’s area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there – I even looked at Moonbeam and that isn't working properly. Cloudkill seemed the most promising but it wasn't quite right – was applying at end of turn and when I tried to fix it, it started rolling damage twice. Surely there must be something around I can cannibalize? I'm still on v9 sorry but maybe could retrofit something from v10 if it exists

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL sample spirit guardians is the best premade example of this.
It should be working as intended.
I don't remember if I have a sickening radiance ready. I remember working on that 🤔
I will take a look tomorrow!

[coarse mesa]

Thankies! I might dig around for a more recent Spirit Guardians. The midi sample one I'm using doesn't trigger damage if it's not the target's turn (which is not how the spell works)

I tried fiddling with it and it stopped working altogether... eek

[violet meadow]

The spell states when you start your turn in the aura, no?

[coarse mesa]

it's one of those:
when the creature enters the area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there
spells, which should trigger damage on anyone's turn... like if you push them into the aura... then they get hit again on start of their turn

[violet meadow]

Ah you mean forced movements!

[coarse mesa]

nods

[violet meadow]

Yeah that is... bothering

Template macros 🤔

Ok I will take a look for v9

[coarse mesa]

Thanks – I was certain things were working ok but didn't really check closely enough as I'm not DM. We've been robbed of some damage lol

[violet meadow]

Just some thoughts before turning in for the night.
The out of turn damage is blocked right now by default, as the macro would otherwise trigger damage if the caster just moves towards a creature and puts that creature in range.

[gilded yacht]

Having the item be single use is the easiest (and in my view non-janky way) to do it - make it a consumeable. Give the effect a duration of ten minutes and flags don't stack by name/origin.

[violet meadow]

So there might need to be a check for position update out of turn on the target token

[coarse mesa]

Yeah that makes sense for Spirit Guardians I guess... but Sickening Radiance isn't moving so that should be ok

[steel apex]

Ok I’ll have a play around with that tonight, thanks.

[violet meadow]

The issue was mainly that the spell's effect that creates the item would remain if the item is destroyed on empty

So I was suggesting a macro on use that would delete the origin effect, if uses go to 0

[scarlet gale]

Effect macro on creation would work for sickening radiance if you're using a template aura

[coarse mesa]

There are a handful of very common spells that use this mechanic so having it work for one would benefit the others I'd imagine
But if the answer is Template Macro, we can wait!

[gilded yacht]

Ok, did not see that part of the discussion. I wonder if there's a way to avoid that.

[gilded yacht]

So there are two cases, when applid via DAE (macro.execute, macro.ItemMacro), in that case the effect data passed in last arg already includes the castData. For onUseMacros I'll add the castData to args[0] explicitly, although all of the information is already in the workflow. Will go out in next release.

[scarlet gale]

What other spells do you think need a good template macro rewrite?

[violet meadow]

A generic on use macro included on the item to be created would make it go away easily (check if uses are 0 after active Effects and then hook on roll complete to delete the origin effect).
Not sure if a case for midi handling that internally is worth considering

A sample item could be enough 🤔

[gilded yacht]

I was wondering about the delete item flag which allows "thing" to be deleted when an effect is removed - might be possible to hack it up with that on the produce flame item - but not really looked into it.

[coarse mesa]

Potentially cloudkill, moonbeam, black tentacles, forbiddance, blade barrier, sleet storm… these all use this mechanic

[violet meadow]

Also I saw today that the whole workflow is passed in args[0]. I hadn't seen that before so I guess the last update?

[vast bane]

lol who casts forbiddance and needs it automated!

isn't it like an 8 hour cast time

[scarlet gale]

Would be interesting to see if I can get an overtime effect to manually trigger on template enter

[coarse mesa]

10 mins yeah, I was just searching by that phrase

Hallow does too lol

[violet meadow]

I keep pushing back the template macro trials 😁

[scarlet gale]

I need to make more stuff for it lol

[violet meadow]

I spent some really needed time for my campaign prep instead 🤣

[scarlet gale]

I really want to setup an automated forcecage

[coarse mesa]

Add cloud of daggers

Whirlwind uses that mechanic too (I’ve never cast it), also Healing Spirit and Ravenous Void

[steel apex]

I thought MrPrimate had a working cloudkill at some point on v9?

[violet meadow]

There is one yes

[scarlet gale]

While AA is nice

It's so buggy

[violet meadow]

The active auras one works iirc

[scarlet gale]

Lots of aa template stuff can be made in a better way with template macros

[coarse mesa]

Pretty sure it’s just the midi sample one, which mostly works

[violet meadow]

The .23 version of AA is pretty stable for v10

[scarlet gale]

That's good to hear

Does it still duplicate effects on clients?

[violet meadow]

Not as far as I could see.

[coarse mesa]

It’s a hard thing to test until game night and someone is using Starlink lol

[steel apex]

I’ve been testing out aura of protection and not seeing any duplication.

[scarlet gale]

Right

[vast bane]

the dupes usually show up when you are ina live session not testing

its the netcode and lag that causes them

[scarlet gale]

Everything always works great with it until a toaster player joins

[violet meadow]

Aura of protection is a babonus thingy for me

[vast bane]

Personally I'd gladly endure a few dupe errors than have to rebuild everything from scratch aa scratched many itches, and I'm fine with its flaws

[coarse mesa]

Why can’t the server just decide who gets what

[steel apex]

Not sure even tried BABonus, already got too many modules / macros for my non-coder brain to manage.

[scarlet gale]

From what I've seen the GM sees it fine

But rolls are done locally

So the client uses the duplicated effects

Template auras in v9 are so bad

Clients keep seeing the effect on themselves while outside the template

[vast bane]

I've never seen the duplicates affect things like that, I only see the visual duplicates. Even then you can just reduce the mod and deal with it manually in those 1 out of 100 times I imagine

better than remaking everything

[scarlet gale]

I use AA for complicated darkness spell automation

And I'll be happy when I can update to v10 for my game

So I can just apply the effects differently

[vast bane]

oh definitely darkness is broken in v9, I am on the drow floors in dotmm right now, every drow is required to cast it in every combat lol, and it fails to remove the blindness

when everyone walks out they retain the debuff

[scarlet gale]

Yep

[vast bane]

but heres the rub on it though...its better than having to make one from scratch

[scarlet gale]

I don't mind

I have tons of my own automations

Got tired of cobling together other people's work and not understanding it

[coarse mesa]

We see Twilight Sanctuary go awry pretty often and grant temp hp multiple times… not the end of the world as they don’t stack anyway. Spirit Guardians with fast damage can be dangerous tho

[scarlet gale]

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I should update mine to give the option of no healing

[violet meadow]

To be honest even though I have used the fully automated spirit guardians, I reverted back to using one that applies movement de buff and creates an attack item in the caster's inventory. And it's their responsibility to use it when needed.
They feel happier with that too

[scarlet gale]

Although I'm also just tempted to use token attacher to attach a template and use templates macros for effect application

[violet meadow]

Yes I played with that a tiny bit

Its... Fun 😁

[scarlet gale]

You see me spike growth?

I'm very happy with how that turned out

[coarse mesa]

I want to try this next time I’m on v10

[violet meadow]

Yeah I saw that!

[coarse mesa]

Has Z released TM yet?

[violet meadow]

Don't think so

[scarlet gale]

We need to break more stuff

[naive zenith]

TM?

[scarlet gale]

Template macros

[naive zenith]

Token Macro?

[violet meadow]

Ohhh don't give Zhell ideas

[naive zenith]

Ah. lol. I was sure it was something macro related

[scarlet gale]

Back to the other topic

Think it would be hard manually trigger a configured overtime flag?

[violet meadow]

On enter or something?

[scarlet gale]

Yea

[violet meadow]

I remember something in midi readme. Let me check

[scarlet gale]

On enter template have midi runs it's own function

[violet meadow]

Search for MidiQOL.doOvertimeEffect

[scarlet gale]

I'll have to do that when I'm home

But if that works it'll be even easier to setup

[violet meadow]

It says that the OT doesn't even need to be on the actor

I haven't used it before. But I feel I should try it

[scarlet gale]

My plan is to add the effect on template enter then figure out if it can be manually triggered

Or just do a one time initial save otherwise

[violet meadow]

Yeah I think this should do it

[coarse mesa]

I think we might need to go with this play until we shift to v10 and TM... same deal for Sickening Radiance. I don't think I'll even bother with creating the attack item temporarily... I'll just shove a permanent item in their inventory so it can sit on their hotbar

[scarlet gale]

I've just always used the ddb importer one for spirit guardians I haven't noticed anything broken with it

Pretty sure it's just an AA with an overtime effect

[coarse mesa]

Is there a warlock in your party pushing enemies into it?

[scarlet gale]

No lol

[coarse mesa]

Yeah we have a lot of forced movement going on this campaign

[vast bane]

its easy to fix if you ban warlocks at the table muahahaha

[scarlet gale]

Doesn't it only trigger on their turn?

[coarse mesa]

Telekinetic in Tasha's gives a bonus action shove too

[scarlet gale]

Oh no it doesn't

Oof

[coarse mesa]

Nah when entering on 'a' turn

[scarlet gale]

Make an effect macro on creation for it

[violet meadow]

Midi SRD had a spirit guardians which creates the item

[coarse mesa]

It's even mentioned in the Sage Advice as a good tactic, they get hit again when their turn rolls around

[scarlet gale]

And manually trigger the overtime effect

When I get home I'll look at that

Because I probably need this too lol

[coarse mesa]

If the party uses teamwork (thorn whip, repelling blast, telekinetic, shoving, etc) these kind of AoEs can be really good bang for buck

[molten solar]

Next project is Babonus Macro 🙂

[scarlet gale]

Could sudo replace AA with that, assuming it works with the auras part

[molten solar]

I'm considering something like a custom script (sync) that you can add like any other filter that either returns true or false

But just considering it, for now. I'm in the middle of... a bit of a different update to it.

[unborn star]

Hi all.

Does anyone know if its possible to restrict the damage automated by Midi-qol? I'm thinking in the lines of using a DAE or something akin, together with Midi-qol, or making Midi-qol disregard a specific token type from the automatic damage appliance.

What I'm looking for is a way to make minions which takes 2 hits to kill. With the damage automating they just die outright as it is now.

Does anyone know how i should approach this?

[scarlet gale]

Could have a world script workflow edit the damage

Check if the target has a specific feature or effect then reduce the damage if so

[coarse mesa]

I can think of a very hacky way to do it... Using two AEs that expire on hit and giving them 1000 HP – but I'm sure someone here will suggest a better way

[scarlet gale]

That's not a bad idea

[acoustic jasper]

Or AE with immunity to damage that expires after a "hit even if no damage was applied" - and give them 1 hp

[scarlet gale]

Only issue with that is if the minion has any self-target abilities

[acoustic jasper]

Yeah - that would be a problem. Other way is to make a world script macro that checks minions before hit - if it's "max" then do nothing if it's <max then apply active effect with macro.actorUpdate that changes their hp to 0

[unborn star]

This sounds neat, however, quite beyond my capabilities.
I have yet to understand how to code macros, I've tried, but the logic eludes me.

[unborn star]

That is actually a nice hacky way of dealing with the problem!

[coarse mesa]

Actually with Effect Macro you could have a trigger when the AE ends? So give the minion 1000 HP and an AE with an effect macro that sets the minion to 1HP on expiry

(Unsure if EM works with DAE special expiry in this way)

[scarlet gale]

It should work fine

I've done weird effect macros that do things when the effects end from DAE

[jagged bear]

Is there a way to make an AOE damage roll not target oneself?

[coarse mesa]

For Target you want blank, blank, special

[jagged bear]

You mean blank special blank?

Would it still place a template, though?

[coarse mesa]

Uh I was just quoting Moto so quite possibly lol. And no those are for self centered bursts sorry. Not sure if you can make a template ignore yourself, just allies

[jagged bear]

So like this? It actually doesn't even post anything in chat anymore 😄

Ah, found it!

Thanks guys

[coarse mesa]

Lol sorry, I should have checked myself

I couldn’t get it to work in v9 but v10 seems fine, and yeah even with a template 🙌

[acoustic jasper]

I've made my minions a bit different, but I can rework my macro later. Yours is way simpler :)

[vast bane]

lol just give it an active effect that gives it temp hp

the minion ideas

[coarse mesa]

1 real HP and 500 temp HP that get dismissed on hit 🧠

[vast bane]

have two ae's that give 1000 and 500 temp hp. Put a fresh minion with the 1000 one on. Then on hit, it auto removes, and use Effect macros on delete to auto apply the 500 one so it looks like the hit did 50% damage. And the bars will be blue instead of green to signify minion status

when the second ae fades on delete, auto dead via effect macro.

However some edge cases would break this idea, mace of disruption on undead/fiend minions would auto kill on the first hit if they fail the save.

you could also just give all minions 1000 hitpoints and call it a day, manually 50% them and then manually dead them after the second hit.

[coarse mesa]

I like the simplicity of an AE with a huge temp hp pool that disappears on hit. Second hit kills.

[vast bane]

yeah

[gilded yacht]

It sort of feels like the concentration handling - when all dependent effects/templates are removed - remove concentration, but in this case when all dependent items are removed remove the source effect. It's probably quite easy to do.

I'm going to be travelling for the next week with limited computer access so probably won't be doing much work while away.

[violet meadow]

I will take a look! Sounds easy enough 😄

Have fun!

[violet meadow]

Mace of disruption should probably have a macro to destroy the undead upon hit. So I imagine the HP boost AE wouldn't change anything, as the weapon should just update the target's hp to 0 🤷

[vast bane]

if we did the temp hp thing, and the hp was 1 hp, then every time a mace hits a creature it would auto dead on failed save, however, last session now that I think about it, in the v9 mace, it was not auto deading failed saved fiends, only the undead had it happen.

so you'd have to do more than 25 pure hp just for th eedge case of a mace of disruption hitting an undead minion

unless the temp hp count towards the check on the mace of disruption, I assume it doesn't but who knows

[violet meadow]

Was that the MidiQOL sample mace?

[vast bane]

yeah from v9, I double checked the monsters, they were barlgura's. They definitely had the preset fiend, but they had flavor of Demon that I think might throw it off I dunno, hes definitely auto deaded undead with it for sure.

theres also the annoying thing that all creatures get the saving throw but thats something we live with

[violet meadow]

if (damageItem.newHP <= 25 && args[0].failedSaveUuids.includes(damageItem.tokenUuid))

I hadn't actually checked the Mace of Disruption before 😄

[vast bane]

my pally player has one so its his primary weapon

[violet meadow]

Whoever uses Minions in their campaign, I would suggest creating a flag on the actors that represent them and then add some check in weapons like Mace of disruption. When such a flag is present on the target, change the behaviour accordingly.

It could also be just a Tag from Tagger module

[fathom socket]

I get this error when i activate the Option "Remove Template" in AA Auto recognition:

[vast bane]

I think it should be stated going forward that you should probably let midi handle template deletion. Specially if you are going to utilize midi automation. I have asked a few times if its possible for a macro that streamlines disabling that checkbox in all of our auto recognitions, haven't gotten a response yet.

[violet meadow]

This is a fight between MidiQOL and AA template removal. You are on v9 still, correct?

[fathom socket]

no v10

[violet meadow]

Hmm which v10 MidiQOL version?

(also uncheck the MidiQOL box for auto template deletion and try again).

[vast bane]

could it be a midi srd item though?

[fathom socket]

10.0.21

should be latest

[fathom socket]

no its homebrew

[vast bane]

you could just simply turn off template removal from AA

[fathom socket]

thats my momentary workaround

[fathom socket]

was already toggled off

[vast bane]

it shouldn't affect anything honestly and midi's setting is global while aa's is each individual item so its probably better to use midi

[violet meadow]

So this has to do with the cover calculations it seems.

[fathom socket]

can i deactivate the cover calculation since i do not use that rule?

[violet meadow]

Try without

[fathom socket]

was also toggled of already

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht if you are still around 😄
There seems to be a need for some optional chaining in the workflow.js:2348 and const position = duplicate(template.center); as it seems that it's not present in this case 🤔

So when does this error trigger exactly @fathom socket ?

[fathom socket]

it triggers after the saving throws, when the damage should be applied

[violet meadow]

When casting a spell like Fireball?

[fathom socket]

in my particular case it was a NPC feature like fireball with a saving throw and a placeable template

[opal wagon]

Guys! Any alternative to SIFT (Spells, Items, and Features Toolkit) for v10 to keep track of who owns what template?

[vast bane]

is't that dealt with by the color of the template?

[opal wagon]

Well, I guess 😅 SIFT also kept track of the duration of the template... anything for that?

(Also I have 6 players and infinite colors are not enough hehe)

[vast bane]

Midi would handle that now, it deletes them when the template is suppose to if you have it on

[opal wagon]

Yes. And I'm using it. I'm just looking for a module that gives templates a tooltip to look up that info at once: who owns it, how much time remaining... but I guess that doesn't exist now or you would've told me 😆 Thanks!

[vast bane]

when a player casts a template duration spell in midi on v10, they get an active effect linked to the template on them, that if you have dfreds effect panel, you can track its duration left there, as for whose the template is, I guess i never had to worry about this, I host for up to 8 players on some sessions and have no issues differentiating the color of a template.

[opal wagon]

One thing that SIFT did, if I remember correctly was autohiding templates when not hovering over them, this made the canvas look neat; now to get that effect I usually drop the template if I have a suitable replacement with Automated Animations, and when I drop the template it disappears as an effect that midi can track.

[vast bane]

I think thats gonna mess up midis new features if you have something killing the templates early, specially if you are using placed aura effects from active auras

[opal wagon]

Right. I'm not using active auras; I always found it more trouble than it's worth 😅

But thanks for the info!

[neon pike]

What is the syntax to add charisma mod to initiative in the effect value?

[vast bane]

you can get those from the post by Cole in #dnd5e pins. Make sure you put a plus in front of the value.

[neon pike]

Thanks!

[violet meadow]

Also from DAE: https://gitlab.com/tposney/dae/-/tree/v10#initiative

[vast bane]

@violet meadow my crazy summon macro you helped make a long time ago, for some reason I'm confused whether its suppose to fire before the item rolls or all or after active effects. I am pretty sure its abnormal cause you have a prompt for an item in inventory or the spell fails. Heres the macro, what is the on use suppose to be?

I've reusd this macro for a bunch of items and they all have different on use drop downs lol, I see some that are all and some that are after active effect and one that is before the item rolls

they all seem to work and all I'm doing is changing the warpgate lines and the summon actor in them

[violet meadow]

So the macro has calls to different macroPasses.
Like preItemRoll,postActiveEffects in this example.
Easiest way to deal with that is with an macro | All onUse call

[vast bane]

thats what I thought

[violet meadow]

Either that, or you create one entry for each macroPass in the macro

[vast bane]

I'll do all

any idea what my issue in macro polo is before any of them chime in? I keep getting a warpgate error and I don't know whats mismatched its only suppose to be update.

[violet meadow]

Haven't check that. Let me see

[slow owl]

Hi folks, looking into setting this up for the first time. Does this module work with beyond20 or does it need to be the module used for rolls?

[violet meadow]

What is beyond20 and what does it do?

[vast bane]

I don't think it does, I think that module is the thing where they roll from beyond 20 sheets on dndbeyond

is that even still a thing in foundry?

[slow owl]

thats the one, apparently. I've had a few false starts setting this up over the years

[vast bane]

its funny because its named beyond20 cause its meant for roll20 integration lol

[slow owl]

assuming id be better dropping that module then 😛

[vast bane]

well that'd be something you'd probably wanna ask mrprimate on his discord hes the dndbeyond guru, hes quite active in making stuff midi compatibile and such

is there really a beyond20 module?

[slow owl]

beyond20 companion module

[vast bane]

there is, but its dead, no v10 support

[slow owl]

still works

[vast bane]

you aren't on v10 yet

oh wait yeah you are, why is that 1.5 and the official site says 1.4 is newest lol

[slow owl]

i should be

[violet meadow]

Personally I never do that. I create everything in Foundry. Less headaches

[vast bane]

sounds like you got a fork

its almost certain midi would not work with it

[slow owl]

ill go ahead on that basis then, keep everything on the one screen

[vast bane]

pretty sure it constructs its own rolls, so its technically another roller

you could visit mrprimates discord, he offers dndbeyond importer modules and hes also an active guy helping out the midi community with a few modules

[violet meadow]

Yeah it doesn't sound that it would be compatible if it creates its own roll

[slow owl]

I'll definitely have a look at it and see whats what, using his importer tool already by the look of it

[vast bane]

as for setting up midi, what version of foundry and dnd5e are you on?

[slow owl]

v10 build 228 and version 2.0.3 for 5e

[molten solar]

Notoriously incompatible with most modules, bet it doesn't even work with RG.

[vast bane]

in roll20 it literally worked by infusing its own constructed roll templates, I assume the same for foundry

[molten solar]

Yes.

[molten solar]

288?

[vast bane]

if you are on v10, you'll probably wanna pickup the 3 forks, ATE, AA, and midi srd. Does anyone have a quick link before I go digging?

make sure your modules are all set, no other rollers installed

search for Roll in your module settings and any module with roll in the name has a high chance of being naughty

but don't blindly uninstall, post the name here and we'll say if its ok with midi

[slow owl]

no rollers,. I honestly dont have much on there, havent really managed to get foundry set up properly before with modules. pretty much a fresh start here

[vast bane]

so midi has effect transfer automation, auto rolling, fast forwarding rolls, and a whole bunch of other stuff

I don't know what v10's settings look like so I don't think I should be the one to guide you

you basically need to go through midis settings, anything you don't understand ask here

[violet meadow]

<#1015545228985368606 message>
For the links to v10 updates of Kandashi mods

[slow owl]

Thanks, I will do, just working through the read me now.

[slow owl]

no access to this channel, do I need to be invited?

[violet meadow]

https://discord.gg/eaECxCmm

[slow owl]

cheers!

[jagged bear]

So the midi-qol.RollComplete hook only runs on the client that initiated the roll - is there any way for the GM to force it to run on their side, too? Or would I have to rely on sockets for this?

If so, is it possible to get a workflow by ID?

[sudden crane]

It is possible to get a workflow by Id, but a workflow only exist on the client that initiated the item use…

If you want to excecute something on the GM client, you will have to use sockets, and pass all the parameters that will be needed on the GM client to be able to do what you want to accomplish.

[jagged bear]

dang

oh well I shall try

[sudden crane]

What are you trying to accomplish?

[jagged bear]

I have automated a oneshot that has a point based system and I was leveraging Midi's automation to add points based on the creatures killed or buildings destroyed

Using sockets here is easy enough, just tedious

[sudden crane]

Where are those points stored? There are some socket call already exposed either in DAE or midi-qol that you could maybe reuse?

[jagged bear]

I store them in the flags of a journal page

I had the foresight to add a manual way to add points

but it would have been nice to have that automatically handled

It was the first run, bound to run into issues that way

[sudden crane]

I don’t think there is already one to update a journal page…

[jagged bear]

Yeah, I've got the flow working, I just didn't realize the hooks were client side

Once I mitigate that, I'll be golden

[sudden crane]

Maybe with advanced macro run as GM? Which you could call from the hook?

[jagged bear]

I'll experiment with sockets first I think

Hm, can world scripts register sockets?

[vast bane]

Ok so I needed to make two items on a warpgate summons cause they have different damage types. I differentiated them with parenthesis and commas in their name, and apparently midi is angry....

  embedded: {Item: {
   "Multiattack":{name: `Multiattack (${Math.floor(level/2)} attacks)`},
    "Slam(Fire)": {
        'data.damage.parts' : [[`1d10 + 4 + ${level}[fire]`]],
        'data.attackBonus' : `- @mod - @prof + ${summonerAttack}`,
    },
    "Slam(Earth, Air, Water)": {
        'data.damage.parts' : [[`1d10 + 4 + ${level}[bludgeoning]`]],
        'data.attackBonus' : `- @mod - @prof + ${summonerAttack}`,
  }}```

I don't see any rogue ) anywhere in this macro

can I somehow discern what line is the problem with this error code?

is it the commas in the name?

[violet meadow]

You are missing a closing } in the end

[scarlet gale]

I've tried getting sockets to work in world scripts before, ended up being too much of a hassle. I just went with using advanced macros and using helper macros set to run as GM.

[vast bane]

I was trying to keep it to just the area I have been editing

I don't see why anywhere else would break, cause I only edited the embedded stuff in the pasted macro above

[violet meadow]

const [spawnedCreature] = await warpgate.spawn(shape, {
  token: {alpha: 1.0},
  actor: {
    "data.attributes.ac.flat": level + 11,
    "data.attributes.hp": {value: 10 + 10 * (level), max: 10 + 10 * (level)}
  },
  embedded: {Item: {
   "Multiattack":{name: `Multiattack (${Math.floor(level/2)} attacks)`},
    "Slam 2": {
        'data.damage.parts' : [[`1d10 + 4 + ${level}[fire]`]],
        'data.attackBonus' : `- @mod - @prof + ${summonerAttack}`,
    },
    "Slam 1": {
        'data.damage.parts' : [[`1d10 + 4 + ${level}[bludgeoning]`]],
        'data.attackBonus' : `- @mod - @prof + ${summonerAttack}`,
  }}
}
});

Replace the relevant part. You were missing a }

[jagged bear]

Yeah, figured as much

[vast bane]

I'm just now seeing that missing bracket now as I loaded it into an editor

I honestly thought the second bracket on the line above was it

[violet meadow]

Better spacing for format helps with readability!

[graceful geyser]

Is it possible for a Reaction Damage ability to modify the amount of damage dealt? Trying to implement Stone's Endurance (Reaction: Reduce damage by d12 + ConMod)

[vast bane]

it started out neat and cllean, but it got messy the second the shit hit the fan lol

[chrome gale]

does anyone know of a working 'eldritch blast' automated setup for the multiple beams? (I know of ASE but it has issues)

[violet meadow]

Regarding my answer in #dnd5e, a similar conversation with tposney <#1010273821401555087 message>

I mean you could automate it with a macro onUse. Create a scale for how many attacks, read that in the preItemRoll, roll once, Hooks on midiCompleteRoll, create a loop for the rest rolls @scale -1 re-trigger a second roll with MidiQOL.completeItemRoll(item) and again and again. But make sure that you Hook correctly cause it could loop forever and ever 🤔

[vast bane]

Hey bugbear, does that error code say what line in my macro would of had the error?

I fixed it and all, I just wanna know how you knew

[violet meadow]

Copy pasted in VScode and it kinda indicates the missing stuff easier

[vast bane]

I feel like this is an unnecessary comma right? thats why its red in the sidebar?

right after summonerAttack?

oh dufus me, it just means my cursor is there

[vague relic]

Is there any sleep macro that works on v10? I've tried so many at this point, and I'm either an utter idiot, or none of them work

[vast bane]

I don't think its really possible to do color spray/sleep

it is if you read the spell wrong though lol

they are really awful spells except in the really low levels

[vague relic]

I've seen people reportedly having a macro that does what the spell entails, giving a condition to creatures in ascending order of hp

I've just never had it work for myself

[scarlet gale]

https://github.com/MrPrimate/ddb-importer/blob/main/macros/spells/sleep.js

[vague relic]

tried this one already, no luck

[scarlet gale]

Does it give you an error?

[vague relic]

iirc, it just applied the effect to everything

[scarlet gale]

Just tested it on my local copy, seems to be working as intended for me.

[vague relic]

how'd you set it up?

that might be where i'm going wrong

[scarlet gale]

Midi-Qol On use Macro

[vague relic]

like this, right?

[scarlet gale]

Mine's an item macro, but should that shouldn't stop it from working

[vast bane]

dfreds!

[scarlet gale]

Do you have a convenient effect called sleep? Uncheck that box

[vast bane]

that checkbox will only be there if he does, and its even checked as well

that is why its applying to all targets

[vague relic]

now the effect does nothing

for reference, the only status effects i have enabled are the CUB ones

could that be it?

like, they're trying to use status effects that aren't there, and I'd have to rename the ones in the macro to the CUB ones so they work?

[vast bane]

oh boy, you have dfreds and cub managing things

you should probably fix that at some point

[scarlet gale]

Having both is probably messing you up

[vast bane]

but you probably misspelled the item on use

if they are toggling on and then immediately off, its cause you have both those modules, if NOTHING is happening, its probably because you didn't set the on use macro right

or you forgot to paste the macro into itemmacro

[scarlet gale]

Looks like he has it as a hotbar macro

[vast bane]

yeah but if its a folder macro, did they name it that?

or is it named "New Macro"

are you on v9 or v10

[vague relic]

v10, and the macro is in itemmacro

[vast bane]

so then ItemMacro should be where SleepEffect was

[vague relic]

yep, that's how it is

[vast bane]

any errors, show us chat output when you roll it

[vague relic]

tested with CUB off, and no worky either

will do

[vast bane]

what module is the macro using dfreds or cub?

[vague relic]

the macro says it uses dfreds

[vast bane]

show us the chat output when the item rolls

and are the targets in the aoe immune to sleep?

[odd sable]

So, I have an item with an ItemMacro, which creates a Dialogue, intended to let the user chose one out of two options for the item. This all works exactly as intended, apart from the fact that whether it's me as GM or the player using the item, the dialogue is sent to me as a GM. I asked in #macro-polo but they believed it to be Midi-related, so they told me to go here instead. Still running v9 of Foundry.

[vast bane]

how many hps on them

11 is prety dang small

[vague relic]

the midi damage box shows the test token has 5 hp

i have the damage set to no damage

[vast bane]

any errors?

[scarlet gale]

Could you screenshot your full details tab for the spell?

[vast bane]

is the test token immune to Unconscious?

[vast bane]

mouse over the test tokens image in the damage card to see his immunities

[vague relic]

nope

[vast bane]

whats the yellow error about the template above

oh wait a minute...what is your midi version

[vast bane]

midi, dae, dnd5e versions

I think hes got the damage types versions

[vague relic]

10.0.21
10.0.13
2.0.3
respectively

[scarlet gale]

Could you screenshot your spell details tab in full?

[vast bane]

hmmm

[vast bane]

hes got ase installed in v10

[scarlet gale]

Yea

turn off ase

and see if that fixes it

IIRC, ASE doesn't work in v10

[vast bane]

thats probably the culprit for the template thing yeah?

you should disable all your incompatible modules, and go through them and see if its just a manual update issue

[vague relic]

I kept it on since the summoning thing still works, and that's useful to me lol. Though after turning it off, the macro still doesn't work

[vast bane]

turn off everything but the minimum

[scarlet gale]

Something with your setup is breaking it

Because it's a pretty well tested macro

[vast bane]

use find the culprit, dfreds/midi/libwrapper/socketlib

prolly dae also

[vague relic]

what's that?

[vast bane]

you need to troubleshoot your modules, usually one installs find the culprit module and runs that

you really should go through your modules and manually check them all for v10's and any without v10's you should not run, ASE is one of those modules that is gonna break many others

[vague relic]

the macro still isn't working with just those 4 installed

idk, at this point it seems like more trouble than it's worth 😅

plus i've got a lot of prep to do, but thanks for the help regardless

[scarlet gale]

Do you have auto-roll damage off?

[vague relic]

no

[vast bane]

is the macro even in the item macro?

[scarlet gale]

What happens if you press the damage (fast) button?

I don't have that on my setup, so I think it may be waiting for the workflow to finish.

[vast bane]

its a setting to not remove the buttons

[vague relic]

it just reposts the last two lines

[vague relic]

Yeah, it just doesn't work

[vast bane]

can you show me the front page of the test tokens sheet?

[vague relic]

wait

[vast bane]

what race is he

[scarlet gale]

Undead

lol

That's why

[vague relic]

i'm about to go ballistic

THAT WAS IT

BBRUH

[vast bane]

I so asked this earlier lol

[vague relic]

I checked for it having a condition immunity to unconscious like you asked, but didn't think to check creature type

I forgot I even changed it to undead to test something else a while ago

anyways, thank you both for helping me out, despite my clear lack of perceptive skills

🙏

[vast bane]

I actually have 3 dummies on the landing page, and I purposely have the non undead one have a zombie token and the undead ones don't

[vague relic]

that might help me in future

[coarse mesa]

I mean, kudos to whoever for sleep not working on undead tho 🙂

[violet meadow]

Just quickly logging it here. Does anyone have any issues with concentration deletion from unlinked tokens not dropping effects, with MidiQOL 10.0.21?

[violet meadow]

@coarse mesa can you quickly check this Spirit Guardians on v9 for the forced movement part? (replace the ItemMacro of the one from MidiQOL sample items with the attached one)
Its proof of concept phase. You need to attack a target whose turn is NOT the current one and not in the Aura's radius.
Afterwards move the targeted token in the Aura.
Does this do it?

[coarse mesa]

Dude! That works perfectly..... I think you've nailed it

Damage triggered if:

• they start their turn there
• they walk in on their turn
• they get pushed in on another turn
  No damage if you walk it onto them

[violet meadow]

OK glad to hear that. Let me know if you come across any issues. I will take another look over the next few days!

I expect that there should be a way to break that message check I used 😅

[coarse mesa]

Thanks – this is sensational

[violet meadow]

@vast bane For the macro.createItem to auto-delete when item uses hit 0. ItemMacro | After Active Effects on the Item in the sidebar. ```js
if (args[0].item.system.uses.value === 0) {
const hasEffects = token.actor.effects.filter(eff=>eff.flags.dae.itemsToDelete)
for (let hasEffect of hasEffects) {
if (hasEffect.flags.dae["itemsToDelete"].includes(args[0].item.uuid)){
console.log("Found it:", hasEffect)
await hasEffect.delete()
}
else console.log("Not found:", hasEffect)
}
}

Might break with your settings though 🤔

[violet meadow]

This should be OK, ItemMacro | Called before the Item is rolled (use it only if the other one is not working correctly)```js
if (args[0].item.system.uses.value === 1) {
Hooks.once("midi-qol.RollComplete", async (workflow) => {
const hasEffects = token.actor.effects.filter(eff=>eff.flags.dae.itemsToDelete)
for (let hasEffect of hasEffects) {
if (hasEffect.flags.dae["itemsToDelete"].includes(args[0].item.uuid)){
console.log("Found it:", hasEffect)
await hasEffect.delete()
}
else console.log("Not found:", hasEffect)
}
})
}

Also it seems that item is predefined for the onUse MidiQOL macros nowadays (probably v10 🤔 which means item === args[0].item)

[scarlet gale]

@molten solar js let tokens = game.modules.get("templatemacro").api.findContained(template);
Getting an error when I'm trying to do this during "When Created"

Also, your new release doesn't download right.

Looks like it's not working for any of the events.

Unless I'm using it wrong?

Changing it to template.document didn't seem to make it work either.

[scarlet gale]

In other news, here's my progress on making a Cloudkill spell with template macros:

Still need to make a way to have the enter damage only trigger on enter once per turn. As well as clearing out the effects when the template is moved as well as when it's deleted.

Would be nice to have template macros have the cast information available, but it's not the end of the world to have the itemmacro just flag the template with the needed data.

[slow owl]

What version of foundry would you guys recommend using with this? was considering using 9.280. Seems like there are still a lot of other modules needing updated to V10

[scarlet gale]

Using what?

[vast bane]

I'm on v9, but plan on updating to v10 over thanksgiving day weekend. The biggest hitch in v10 automation is the lack of a supported active auras and active token effects, but between Kaelad and MrPrimate, they have helped update the two modules so that people with built out v9's its less painful of a move.

[scarlet gale]

We're at the point where any modules still on v9 aren't likely to ever get updated.

Thanksgiving weekend is also when I'm updating my actual game too lol