MidiQOL

[tranquil cloak]

In midi-Qol you can make it so that roll formulas are hidden, but con be revealed when clicked. Is there a way to d that with the descriptions?

[violet meadow]

In the MidiQOL settings => Workflow settings => Misc tab, play around with these options

By descriptions you mean the footer of the chatCard?

[tranquil cloak]

No I meant the text that goes alng witht the item/spell. I got it working though.

you pointed me in the right direction

[late fractal]

Hello again! I am back at working/learning automation. Today I have been working on "Luring Song" for a Harpy. I am able to get it to request a save and apply a Charm to failed saves. It also removes properly on a charmed character on subsequent round saves. The two issues I have are: 1. The Harpy is also forced to save for the ability (it gets included in the circle temple AOE) and 2. The Harpy gets a passive effect called "Luring Song Template" that never goes away. Any hints on these issues?

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht it seems in MidiQOL v10.0.16 and DAE v10.0.10

When concentrating on a spell with an effect and the token is UNLINKED, deleting the concentration will not delete the effect.
Hmm upon further testing something strange was happening. I linked and unlinked again the token and it started behaving correctly (deleting effects when concentration is deleted 🤔 )

Unlinked with MidiQOL v10.0.15 occurrences:
the message above and <#1010273821401555087 message>

MidiQOL 10.0.16 <#1010273821401555087 message>

Secondly.
In dae.js:946 onwards where the switch for selfEffects is being created, when the item which applied the DAE is set to Τarget: | | Self in its details tab AND on the DAE none of the options to apply to self is selected: ```js
dae.js:955
Uncaught (in promise) TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'selfTarget')
[Detected 2 packages: dae, midi-qol]

Maybe on line 955 `appliedEffects = duplicate(this.effects.filter(ae => ae.transfer !== true && !ae.flags?.dae?.selfTargetAlways && !ae.flags?.dae.selfTarget));`
needs a `dae?.selfTarget`?

[violet meadow]

Are you on MidiQOL v10.0.16?
No2 might be linked to the issue above.

For No1 on the Range of the Item's details tab, select Special in the last box. It should exclude the caster

[late fractal]

I am on MidQOL v10.0.15. Number 2 is slightly annoying but had no real impediment to play. I will try the fix for 1 now

Yes that worked for #1, thanks!

A few other very minor nice to have items, incase you know if there are quick wins:

1. The Circle template has to be started/placed manually. Any way to automate it better?
2. Along the same lines, once the effect is placed the Circle template also needs to be manually deleted. Any thoughts on if it can be removed via automation?

[violet meadow]

Is the caster always the center of the template?

If yes, change the Target: 10 | ft | enemy or something. The template will not be created and MidiQOL will take care of the targeting of the enemies in range.

Or, in case you really want to get the template placed every time, you can use the MidiQOL auto delete templates settings, in MidiQOL settings => Workflow settings => Workflow tab, close to the top in between the targeting options.

[violet meadow]

Is the Harpy a linked or unlinked token?

[late fractal]

I am not sure I know how to check that

[violet meadow]

Double click on the placed token or select it and press C.
In the title bar of the character sheet click on Token.
In the pop up in the Identity tab there should be a checkbox for linking the token to an actor

[late fractal]

"Auto remove placed template on spell expiry" is checked in workflow settings

Link Actor Data is not checked

[violet meadow]

Does the Item have a duration of Instantaneous?

[late fractal]

duration is set to special, let me try Instantaneous

[violet meadow]

This means that the token is not Linked to the Actor on the sidebar and changes you do on it, or the sidebar Actor will not be affecting one another.
Normally NPCs are like that whereas PCs and maybe Big Bosses or Unique characters are to be Linked

[late fractal]

no change on Instantaneous

[violet meadow]

is your game paused?

[late fractal]

I understand the linking yeah, makes sense since the monsters are "templates"

no not paused

[violet meadow]

In combat?

[late fractal]

yes in combat. i didnt start a new combat if that matters, i can try that real quick

[violet meadow]

If the caster is in combat, it needs a turn change to delete it iirc

[late fractal]

hmm so interesting result:

• the template was removed, that worked
• but the charm effect on a PC who failed the save was also removed 😦

[violet meadow]

Ah OK now I understand. You cannot have it as Instantaneous in this case.

You will need to target all the creatures in a certain area around the Harpy. Give back a duration to the Item.
And change the Target. What's the radius?

[late fractal]

the spell radius is 300, which is kind of huge. It's kind of a siren song that the harpy uses to lure ships to crash into shallow rocks. But it can also use it in combat to charm PCs

Its from the Dragons of Stormwreck Island module, not sure if that is a "stock" harpy ability but thats what I am going off

[violet meadow]

OK change to a Target: 300 | ft | Enemies and it should be good

[kind cape]

I've had an issue very similar (or identical, don't have it in front of me right now) to this issues on 10.0.15, just FYI

[violet meadow]

Yeah something seems off but I cannot pinpoint it now

[river urchin]

when pressing multiple times the attack button, is it possible to go back to other results?

[violet meadow]

Hmm not afaik. Might be worth it to request it as a Feature in https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/issues

[prime pasture]

Im bringing back a old message, but if I want an effect to trigger from a 10 result of d20 attack roll. @workflow.diceRoll = 10 should work? Looks like Im failling to make it work atm

[violet meadow]

@workflow.diceRoll === 10

[late fractal]

this worked, but confused me at first. I dropped a circle template and that ended up causing a second roll. I ran it again and noticed i dont need to place the template at all

[prime pasture]

Thanks, beside the Conidition Avtivation required in MQOL fields and that @workflow.diceRoll === 10, there is'nt anything else needed? It is still activating the effect no matter what I roll.

[violet meadow]

Which version of MidiQOL are you on?

[prime pasture]

10.0.16

[violet meadow]

Checked?

[prime pasture]

this is on the item? (Mine is in french)

[violet meadow]

Yeah on the Item

[prime pasture]

then yes 🙂

[river urchin]

https://github.com/Kuffeh1/Foundry/blob/main/Spells/Level 1/Thunderous Smite
I found this macro to automate thunderous smite

but i have no idea where to paste it

[prime pasture]

On the item / ItemMacro option. Should be a Item Macro label on top. You will have to add On Use macro named exactly : ItemMacro on the item MIDI QOL fields

[river urchin]

already done that, but it does nothing, do i have to set anything in the bottom?

do i have to create any effect?

[prime pasture]

Click the + sign on On Use Macro

[violet meadow]

You need to follow the steps on the 1st few lines to create the effect

Its not an onUse Macro, but one that needs to be executed via DAE

[violet meadow]

So what are you trying to do exactly? When you roll a 10?

[prime pasture]

When the user of the item rolls a 10 from an attack roll, it will give an active effect on the user, not the target. Which is working fine, but without the attack roll = 10 condition

[river urchin]

thanks, that made more things work, but not completely, now the save is forced to the attacker, not the target

[violet meadow]

Do you have a Saving throw set in the item's details?

You should not and instead allow the Macro to do what needs to be done I think from a quick look

[violet meadow]

So you have a DAE on the item, with the option Apply to Self on Roll?

[river urchin]

i have this

[violet meadow]

yeah just try without that.

[river urchin]

without which part?

[violet meadow]

Change Action Type: Saving Throw to None (blank it should be actually)

[river urchin]

the one on top or on the bottom?

[violet meadow]

Edited to make more sense.
In the dropdown Action Type

[prime pasture]

yes, found out it was the (whevener the item is rolled that made the bug..................)

thanks for the help T_T, that was awful

[river urchin]

oooh now it's working!

thanks

[acoustic jasper]

Hmm I wanted to give BAB a try, but I'm really bad at learning this kinda stuff - mostly I build my skills (and macros) looking at other stuff and moving some pieces here and there - like a puzzle. So here is my question: Is there some kinda of repository of BAB skills? Like Midi-Qol SRD, Sample Items etc.?

[molten solar]

There's a UI and a thousand tooltips

The new release from an hour ago made them real explicit

[acoustic jasper]

I'll give it a try, but I'm probably to stupid to learn without examples 😄

[molten solar]

Example(s) on the module page 👍

It's basically just "apply these bonuses to this" at the top "but only if" at the bottom with all the filters

[acoustic jasper]

ok so this should work as an aura for my monster to boost his allies physical damage. But It's not working for me :/

[violet meadow]

Enemy Targets are the PCs in this instance I think

Make them Allied Targets, in regards to the source

[acoustic jasper]

ok - thanks, most modules use baseline -1,0,1 disposition

can I put my own effect (not condition) here to make something like Hex?

[molten solar]

No, the actor type does not matter. It is the token disposition.

[molten solar]

You place the status id, yeah.

[molten solar]

Allies are those that have the same disposition, enemies are those with the opposite (hostile if you are friendly, friendly if you are hostile)

[violet meadow]

I didn't mean that it matters but the end result would be the PCs in this example!! 😁

[molten solar]

Allied NPCs?

and then there are the Neutral Disposition tokens, who have no enemies, but only allies (other Neutral disposition tokens)

[acoustic jasper]

how do I phrase it? just "xQsL8QyEUtD0aFZs" (if thats the ID)?

[molten solar]

Nah, status id, not effect id

In you guys' case, copy whatever is in the mislabeled "force display on token"

[acoustic jasper]

something like this?

[molten solar]

I don't know, what am I looking at?

[violet meadow]

It will be blank in this case

[acoustic jasper]

ok so if it's blank - what should I enter for BAB to detect it?

[molten solar]

"hexadoodle"

"steve"

[violet meadow]

Its a created effect in a macro @acoustic jasper ?

[molten solar]

"mcmuffin the hexablaster"

[violet meadow]

You can give it a flag for core statusId

Do you need statusId or label too @molten solar ?

[molten solar]

Doesn't matter how it's made. Everyone in this channel uses DAE, which exposes flags.core.statusId to the UI

[molten solar]

It does not check for label, because that is fallible.

[violet meadow]

Just as a fallback 🤔.
If not we need to change some macros around

[molten solar]

No

[violet meadow]

Is it the Hex macro for Midi?

Actually which one ?

[acoustic jasper]

Ok If I put something in "force display" then its working, but It's not a passive skill anymore then

(if I want it to be passive ofc)

[violet meadow]

It is exposed but not used in the case of several midi macros which add the effects by constructing them in that script

[solid mountain]

Is there a way to apply condition immunity to frightened through a DAE? And make it work in midi.

As in, make sure it doesn't get applied if the target has immunity

[molten solar]

That's core. system.traits.ci.value | Add | fear (or 'frightened', I don't remember)

[solid mountain]

Hmm, yeah, it adds the immunity.

[violet meadow]

And midi will respect it

[solid mountain]

But frigthened still gets applied.

I might set up the "attack" wrong

[molten solar]

Speaking of status ids

[acoustic jasper]

in my case it's applied but goes inactive

[molten solar]

You're free to suggest a fallback that isn't the label. Using the status id works very well in 99% of cases.

[solid mountain]

Well, mine is applied.

I do use DF convenient effects if that matter.s

[molten solar]

Ah

CE's status ids are not the core system status ids...

[solid mountain]

Ah, so it's based on ids. therefor it fails.

[molten solar]

Status ids, not ids.

Ah wait I'm thinking of something else

CONFIG.DND5E.conditionTypes, not CONFIG.statusEffects

[violet meadow]

Is it applied through DFreds, or a DAE?

Macro.ce or statusEffevt?

[solid mountain]

It's applied thorugh DAE

[molten solar]

What dnd5e version are you on?

[solid mountain]

2.0.3

[violet meadow]

Catching up later. Getting in my car

[acoustic jasper]

well I checked now and I have the same thing - no matter how I use it (CUB or CE) it applies the effect

strange :/

it used to work as I recall

[acoustic jasper]

what happens when you try to add the effect manually? (from CE toolbar)

[solid mountain]

It's added.

[acoustic jasper]

active?

in my case if I add manually to a target that has immunity the effect is added but its inactive

[solid mountain]

Oh, actually inagive.

Yeah, it is added but inactive if you add it manually.

[acoustic jasper]

yeah sadly if we add it via DAE it goes active and It shouldn't

maybe it's a bug

[solid mountain]

Hm, now it worked, for some reason as inactive.

Even when applied through the power.

Odd.

[acoustic jasper]

does your condition have a duration?

[solid mountain]

Yes.

Maybe adding that changed it

[acoustic jasper]

wierd - I can't get the same result - in my case adding via power alwyas makes it active

[solid mountain]

Well, it works now.

as in, it's added, but inactive.

[acoustic jasper]

nvm

[river urchin]

is there a macro, formula or whatever that allows something to happen if the target has a specific active effect AND the selected token has another one?

[summer frost]

Not a midi question, but a more general dev question. Working on modification of a (module) script. In order to test changes, I have to Reload Application so the changes get read in. This, of course, closes all the things I carefully opened and placed onscreen so I could monitor things, forcing me to redo that stuff every time. Is there a short cut to the Reload that implements my script changes w/o killing my scene?

[dark canopy]

#module-development is the place for these kind of questions

[summer frost]

....taking my question on a journey...

[celest bluff]

sure you can define both targets and search them for the active effects

[river urchin]

i don't know much programming, and i'm pretty new to foundry's terminology, so i don't understand that 😅

[celest bluff]

midi provides a workflow you can use to grab the user who executed the roll and the target(s)

if you use item macro, you can access the workflow via args[0]

[river urchin]

essentially i want to create 2 Hexblade's Curse effects: Curser and Cursed. I want the benefits of hexblade's curse to trigger only when the Curser attacks the Cursed

[celest bluff]

yeah hexblade's full setup is a little complicated. I wrote one for 9 and 10.

[river urchin]

oh, right, i saw you had something like that in your patreon

[celest bluff]

yes, hexblade and hex

[river urchin]

i'm considering it

but first i want to see how far i can get without copying a whole macro

[celest bluff]

if you want the quick version, you can just use dae and use a damagebonus macro

[river urchin]

by the looks of your teaser vids, the macros are crazy long. I suppose that what I am asking for doesn't exist as easy as I want it to be or your macros would be way shorter xD

[celest bluff]

you could look at hunters mark

in the midi samples

well the reason is why mine are crazy long is I go for rules as written

[river urchin]

where are those?

[celest bluff]

compendium under items

[river urchin]

based

[violet meadow]

@solid mountain and @acoustic jasper did the issue with the effects happen on unlinked tokens maybe?

[acoustic jasper]

this maybe the case - I've checked on monsters. I'll se with linked

yup - on a PC freightended always goes to inactive effects (if immunity is present)

and on the NPC (unlinked) it ignores Immunity (but sometimes it didn't but I don't know how to reproduce)

[violet meadow]

MidiQOL/DAE versions?

[acoustic jasper]

10.0.16/10.286

so newest I think

[violet meadow]

I guess DAE is 10.0.10 and Foundry 10.286?

[acoustic jasper]

It's odd - If I try to add the effect via CE toolbar or CUB it goes to inactive no problem

even on unliked

unlinked

however - If I add the freightened effect to (for example) weapon attack

then there is a difference

[violet meadow]

How do you add the effect on the weapon? By using the + in a new DAE or Effects with a macro.CE or statusEffect ?

[acoustic jasper]

but I've tested other options

same result

[violet meadow]

OK one last question. Can you select the unlinked token that exhibits this behaviour, open the character sheet and make it a Linked one, submit changes, then change it back to unlinked and try again adding condition?

[acoustic jasper]

ok this is really odd - so that trick didnt helped - but I've added a second token (same as before) and gave him same immunity - this one gets the condition on inactive. However in both cases the condition is not visible on token (only in character sheet)

and while active it should have been visible

ok I found the difference

one (working correctly) had the immunity added manually on a character sheet. The other had an effect that added same immunity

that one is behaving incorrectly

[violet meadow]

Alright. If you can gather your findings in one post with steps to reproduce (if that's possible) would be great so we can share that to tposney!

[acoustic jasper]

ok - I've deleted tokens, restarted the serwer and added new ones with new abbilities - It's working fine. If the error reappers I'll try to find out when it happens

[solid mountain]

Interesting, it's acting inconsistently with me too.

Another question, unrelated I think.

Does this work with custom CE?

I think it should, right?

Looks like I'm getting the item effect instead of the CE one, causing them to stack when I don't want that.

[violet meadow]

Yeah it should be working. Exactly same names for Item and the CE?

[solid mountain]

Does it matter if it's active or passive? Does it just check name?

First one is CE manually applied.

Second one is from an attack that should apply the same effect.

[violet meadow]

Go into the CE one and change it to Do not stack by name and try again

Actually both of them 🤷

[solid mountain]

Well, that half-solves it. 🙂 It won't stack now. But the attack still doesn't apply the CE effect, it applies an item effect.

[violet meadow]

I think its time for some issues to be created in MidiQOL 😅

[solid mountain]

I just want to be super sure it's just not a user error (it usually is for me)

when it comes to midi at least 🙂

[violet meadow]

To be honest there are some strange occurrences after the last updates. An issue with a straight up DFreds CE deletion came up today too.

So I think it's safer to make a thorough post with attached exports of Midi settings, some actors that behave weirdly and the item in question with steps to reproduce.

That way tposney can track it easier 🤷

[jagged cairn]

What do this modifiers mean?

Msak, mwak, rsak, rwak

[molten solar]

melee/ranged spell/weapon attack

[jagged cairn]

Its there a DR for all damage except magical?

[jagged cairn]

Tested all, includes magical

[vast bane]

Yeah, I don't think anybody ever knitpicks that part of heavy armor master, we all kinda gloss over and didn't bother to point that out lol

there is definitely an aspect of nonmagical in midi's damage types but I don't think he ever made a DR flag for it

nevermind

dae auto complete ftw

[jagged cairn]

Yeah happened the same to me xD

[vast bane]

you can't just use 1 flag though

wow yeah this is probably impossible to do

it has to be weapon damage and it has to be nonmagical

I think that flag will work for anytime you do piercing/bludg/slashing regardless of a weapon

personally I just did all and called it a day for my heavy armor master

[jagged cairn]

Yeah probably for the better, another question if you mind, what is the priority tab for exactly?

For effect attributes that overwrite each other?

[vast bane]

its for a situation that is so rare you can ignore it and never be bothered to set it

I've only ever seen it come up with strange massive automation use case examples where multiple walking speeds were being applied

[stable forge]

v9, working with ATL, trying to get a token to emit bright light with the Sunburst animation when they activate an item, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong here?

[molten solar]

Tried sunburst?

or light.animation.type

[stable forge]

...I was thinking that might be it but hoping it wasn't lol. I'm gonna try sunburst first and see

Add > sunburst

[stable forge]

Thank you!

[vast bane]

I actually think you want override

otherwise your gonna get light ranges of 6030?

if anything has a previous light source that is

[stable forge]

Okay, thank you for that

[violet meadow]

@gilded yacht MidiQOL v10.0.16
*I fail to find on a created effect any entries for flags["midi-qol"].castData.

Tested with a Fire Bolt SRD spell, adding a DAE for DFreds CE Charmed (using the +), another blank one and a third with a macro.CE for Blinded.
It doesn't show on any of the effects created on the target🤔
*

**Retested ** after changing the dae.js line in selfTarget mentioned in the previous ping and now I can see the flags.
I need to rethink what other changes might have done in the meantime, but I will try to reproduce tomorrow with fresher eyes... 😫

Same for a non-cantrip one

[jagged cairn]

How do you guys use the "expires if the character rolls succesful saving throw?" to remove the effect?

I just roll but it doesnt seem to be a DC to check if the roll is sucessful or not, doesnt take the original item DC either

[violet meadow]

You need to fast forward ability checks and automate the Saves through MidiQOL workflow

[jagged cairn]

Its automated on my end

[vast bane]

I'd just make an overtime effect

[jagged cairn]

How do you do that exactly

[vast bane]

I will teach you how to fish instead of give you fish, Ctrl F and find for Overtime on this site:
https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/blob/fc343162c0dd2e16946d3b6d6875c8478bafebfd/README.md

also you can just copy a midi srd premade item, or a midi sample item if you don't do reading manuals well

[jagged cairn]

Actually i managed to get it working, only problem i have is that when the save is done

Concentration doesnt go

[vast bane]

it should with overtime 🤔

are you setting it up right?

[jagged cairn]

So im testing hold person, the paralyze effect fades when the save is successful with the overtime attribute, but the caster's concentration stays even if the effect is gone

[vast bane]

hold person is a premade you don't need to make that

[jagged cairn]

turn=start,saveAbility=wis,saveDC=@attributes.spelldc,saveMagic=true,label=Inmovilizar Persona

Im just messing around mostly to learn how all this works

[vast bane]

I actually use hold person when I need to remember the format lol

fyi theres a compendium of premade items that comes with midi qol called midi sample items, and then if you have v9, theres a gigantic premades module called Midi SRD with even more premades of features, spells, and items. Theres another premade module called More Automated yada yada yada as well but it also is v9 only, but you can carry it over in an update if you duplicate the compendiums as world compendiums(though they will need tweaks to some macros and require a functional active auras and active token effects module in v10).

What is handling your auto concentration

[jagged cairn]

Midi

[vast bane]

are you sure 8)? Do you have cub installed?

[jagged cairn]

Nope

[vast bane]

Hmm I have my own dilemma it seems. My saving throws seem to be fast forwarding even though I have the setting set to off in the main settings window and I have the saves options in workflow set to Monk's Token bar not auto. Any clue why this is happening? I already checked for sticky keys as well.

Its also fast forwarding disadvantage hmmmm

man midi settings like to go corrupt, and theres no restore to defaults

[vast bane]

fwiw I believe that midi can't stop concentration that way, however if you stop concentrating, the ae is removed from the enemy

yeah after googling it, it was suggested to turn on onscreen keyboard to see if a key is stuck like a function key, and sure enough, my right alt key is stuck

[molten solar]

Now that is what I call straying from core behavior.

[vast bane]

normally sticky keys fires, I dunno why that didn't warn me

[molten solar]

Pretty sure that's on Shift

[celest bluff]

Could have the overtime fire a macro and filter it so it only runs when successful save, then have it remove concentrating

[vast bane]

cleaned my keyboard and I'm still rolling always advantage....plugged in another keyboard, still rolling always advantage

find the culprit all modules off, always advantage

[violet meadow]

Upgrade to v10 only option

World scripts off?

[vast bane]

I have no world scripts, well I do but they are in worldscripter

[violet meadow]

Did you bind ALT (if you use that for adv) to your mouse 1 by any chance?? 🧠

[vast bane]

in configure settigns I only see alt set for advantage, both alts

controls settings

[violet meadow]

I meant PC system Wide

[vast bane]

oh I don't have fancy software like that

only thing I can think of is to restore to saturday afternoon, losing multiple days of work

[gilded yacht]

You're right. The only one that's working is apply CE effects. I forgot that I was half way through fixing dae for the midi-qol changes and released them out of sync.

[violet meadow]

Connect as a player on a second incognito window. Same behaviour?

[vast bane]

Yeah, I think my foundry install is corrupt

seperate player is trying to roll, its always advantage

its like our alt keys are stuck down but they aren't

only thing active now is system and foundry

[violet meadow]

If you give disadvantage does it roll 1d20?

No matter what target, what roll, what scene?

[vast bane]

there is no popout

[violet meadow]

Give it with a keybind

[vast bane]

fully rebooted the server waiting for it to come up

with everything off it would roll with advantage acting like the key was being held down, I never checked to see if the other button would somehow override it, isn't like shift normal?

with midi enabled, it would even do it when I held down the T key to disable it

[molten solar]

Shift simply skips the prompt. If something sets it to Advantage, that still applies.

[vast bane]

do modules somehow leave things active when disabled?

I'm not even using items, I'm making a saving through via the vanilla sheet

and if midi is off, then any sort of ae using always advantage wouldn't matter, but I'm also now testing with a starter hero too lol

[marsh crescent]

I have seen that happen, but after I cleared the browser cache it fixed the issue.

[vast bane]

yeah I thought that too, but that didn't fix it, then I asked one of my players to login and test and they too are rolling always advantage

[molten solar]

no

[vast bane]

servers rebootin we'll see if something odd was going on

[molten solar]

well....

there is one.

[gilded yacht]

No it's not possible. The old rolls are thrown away.

[vast bane]

ok so rebooted and everything seems to be normal but I'm rolling whispered and my drop down is set to public?

Also mtb doesn't say if things are a success or not?

[molten solar]

Do you have your regular menagerie of modules enabled?

[vast bane]

yeah, once the roll was no longer advantage I flipped everything back on

[molten solar]

Can you show me the UI of an ActiveEffect

[vast bane]

I solved it, apparently its a midi setting I've never used before, I must have hit the down arrow or something during the whole mess before and flipped it by accident

Somehow it got changed to Save - All see result only, and I guess that is not compatible with MTB

lol MTB setting flipped somehow also

probably happened when I was finding the culprit and was using MTB to make the saves quickly testing

[violet meadow]

👀 Babonus tab confirmed?!

[molten solar]

🤔 ❓

There is. It's in the header.

[violet meadow]

It ... would ... have ... been ... prettier 😛

[molten solar]

No thanks. I've seen some of the "high automation" AE UIs and they make me want to run away screaming

I'm good with just a header button, a dropdown from EM, and a few checkboxes from ET. 😄

[acoustic jasper]

btw. is it possible to make BAB aura to appear on other targets, not just the "aura giver"?

[molten solar]

'appear'?

[violet meadow]

icon

[acoustic jasper]

on tokens

icon

yes

[scarlet gale]

Speaking of ET, when you pushing that new update with the no animation fix?

[acoustic jasper]

so you can know with 1 look that someone is within aura range

[molten solar]

babonus does sync behavior only. The creation of AEs is async.

[vast bane]

did primate combine the 3 sources of active auras work yet?

[molten solar]

It works entirely differently than AA. Using the dnd5e hooks from v2.0.x, the behavior is all in when you roll the affected roll, not when a token moves to put you in the aura

[acoustic jasper]

oh

[molten solar]

(which coincidentally is why it is 100% safe to have enabled out of combat)

[acoustic jasper]

yeah i guess it's better this way - I just wish there was any kind of visual indicator

[vast bane]

kinda like how Active auras works, cause it will mod the sheet to show the modifiers and also show an icon, and if you so choose, put an animation on everyone affected by it

though I turned off the animations

[molten solar]

I get that. You can add context to the bonuses (square brackets), or you can use a Sequencer effect or something.

[vast bane]

I think flavor is a bad thing in midi unless its matching midi's damage setup

[molten solar]

100% not my problem lmao

Far as I am concerned flavor does nothing. Because it does nothing.

I guess don't tag the bonuses as "necrotic" 🤷

[scarlet gale]

Didn't v10 of midi change that anyway?

[vast bane]

thats just it though, if its a damage, if it has anything there, won't that override the damage type to let midi let it through in a circumstance when it would normally be resisted or immune?

[stoic seal]

I saw that there was an update to have Babonus be used on templates?

[molten solar]

Correct.

[vast bane]

Either way I'm gonna stick with Active Auras, better midi support

[molten solar]

babonus is v10 only, so 🤷 😛

[vast bane]

I mean even when I update

[stoic seal]

So if a drop a template down on the map and PCs walked in, a bonus should apply to them? Or does it have to be dropped directly on them?

[scarlet gale]

You do you

[molten solar]

Whether the token is contained within a template (one grid space is enough) is evaluated at the time of rolling.

[vast bane]

can it apply flags too?

[molten solar]

.

[vast bane]

I thought they were talking about template macro

[molten solar]

They would work nicely together. 🙂

Template Macro can do whatever you like. Sync or async.

[scarlet gale]

Template macro can pretty easily place an effect on those inside

[molten solar]

Suspiciously easy, in fact.

[vast bane]

is there a function for it with mobile things like an aura?

[scarlet gale]

beyond the scope for template macros

BUT

[vast bane]

or a beholders cone

[scarlet gale]

You could attach the template to a token with token attacher

[violet meadow]

Oh I am playing around with some stuff... hihihi

Now I almost have my Fire Shield working without Warpgate and Active Auras 😄

[vast bane]

I really wanna see the magic people can come up with the new midi feature

[violet meadow]

(different concept though, not BaB and templates macro)

[vast bane]

is it really drag and drop into the effect value field?

[violet meadow]

yeah

[vast bane]

like I can just drag an item over to it?

that is nuts

thats the useability I look for in a module right thar

[violet meadow]

do you want a video? It just links the Item.Uuid

[scarlet gale]

warpgate still has its uses for when you want to modify the item / feature however.

[vast bane]

what happens to the item when you lose the ae?

[violet meadow]

puff

[scarlet gale]

poof

[vast bane]

that is frikkin awesome

[violet meadow]

👀

Maybe one day?

[vast bane]

Protective bond could be a buff that gifts a misty step like ability teleport

I don't think we have any automation option to swap the target of a workflow right?

[violet meadow]

Almost there. I can make it work but not in a nice way

[vast bane]

I was thinkin put the reaction on the player being targeted, and then it gifts the other guy a teleport function that damages for what would have been applied to them?

[violet meadow]

There is an issue in the midi git as a future milestone

[vast bane]

so have the reaction be full damage immunity, but then pull the damage workflow value, and apply a damage value to the ally teleporting

but no idea how to make it not do hit stuff like apply a save effect

[violet meadow]

This is what I was working on ```
In addition, when you or a creature you can see within 30 feet of you is hit by an attack roll, you can use your reaction to invoke the rune and choose a different creature within 30 feet of you, other than the attacker. The chosen creature becomes the target of the attack, using the same roll. This magic can transfer the attack's effects regardless of the attack's range. Once you invoke this rune, you can't do so again until you finish a short or long rest.

[vast bane]

yeah, sorta kinda similar to peace clerics protective bond

man I really wanna get to v10 now lol

crossing my fingers, we're doing a lore meeting tomorrow night and I'll beg them again to consider a v10 update, possibly for thanksgiving week when we're off

[molten solar]

'again'?

[steel apex]

Is there any way to automate the Fighting Style: Protection? Triggering a reaction not on your turn to give disadvantage to an enemy attacking an ally within 5ft of you? My party’s paladin would enjoy that.

[violet meadow]

Not with just MidiQOL as things are right now.
And even then it is hard.
I am playing around with such items and maybe I will start sharing them when I am positive that they work

[coarse mesa]

That's gonna be necessary for when Bardic Inspiration becomes a reaction in 2024 👀

[spice kraken]

I just have the disadvantage part automated and tell the player to remember, target, and roll the feature

[celest bluff]

it's possible to do reaction but you'd need a world script to do it

[vast bane]

I'd use the new midi feature and create an active aura that gives allies within 5ft of the protection fighting style guy a reaction to impose disadvantage. if thats even possible with the current state of active auras in v10

and manually manage the reaction use on the right person

[kind cape]

Yes

[vast bane]

https://media.giphy.com/media/aLdiZJmmx4OVW/giphy.gif

[river urchin]

is this the way to indicate the type of damage?

[violet meadow]

Don't use a space between.

Also you need to add a plus sign when using ADD.
+@prof[necrotic]

[river urchin]

if i do this it will clear the effect after damage is done and apply it again every turn?

[vast bane]

what is the macro you are running?

[vast bane]

there are examples of automation that does this, but your current setup will not. I personally got fed up with these kinds of once a turns and just use advantage reminder to cover them now

If its once on your turn, you could just make it a charged item that recharges on 1

[river urchin]

none, unless the effect i posted above counts as the macro

[vast bane]

it does not

once that effect deals damage, it is deleted and is no longer active or in play at all and no repeats would happen

[river urchin]

hmm alright

[vast bane]

you can set an item to be available to use, but be charged, and then dnd5ehelpers will ...oh v10 nevermind. I'm sure someone will come up with a solution for ya

[river urchin]

i've got 2 paladins and they are terrible to automate

[river urchin]

starting to regret not being in v9

[scarlet gale]

Just have the feature be a toggle on

The player clicks it before their attack

Then it goes away after the attack

[vast bane]

its once per turn

[scarlet gale]

yea

special duration of makes an attack

or hit (depending on the feature)

then it's just a matter of them clicking it once before attacking

There are ways to make it do that automatically, but that involves macros

[vast bane]

Does Symbuls replace the recharge feature of dnd5e helpers?

[short aurora]

Simbul's Creature Aide has the automatic recharge of dnd5e helpers, yeah.

[vast bane]

I'd put the feature on a recharge 1 to remind the player to activate it each turn, have it expire as Chris says

[short aurora]

So that field, for the macro, depends on the effect being active, which means that you've spun yourself out of the loop on that one. It sounds like you want that effect to automatically apply every turn start (round start?) and then expire after the actor affected by it deals damage the first time?

[vast bane]

you could also do an effect macro ae that at start of turn turns on the ae you have now, but that requires someone to write a ditty for ya

[scarlet gale]

yea

Could have an effect macro that just turns it on at the start of the turn

[vast bane]

you could also use dae but effect macro stores the macro so it doesn't clutter up your folders

Effect macro becoming the new item macro in here lol

[scarlet gale]

Simplest way without writing a macro is to just have the player click the feature before attacking, anything else requires a more involved setup.

[vast bane]

eh, I'd throw recharge 1 on that just to remind the player, does nothing bad, and helps remind them so they don't forget

[scarlet gale]

that too

[river urchin]

yes

[short aurora]

It's definitely doable, trying to think up a clean way of doing it.

Currently the only one I can think of is to have a passive active effect that triggers this one.

Kinda needs an active effect to keep an eye on the whole "each" thing.

[violet meadow]

I would go for an optional bonus flag

[vast bane]

advantage reminder message works too

[river urchin]

but have you considered my player forgets a lot of stuff? xD

[vast bane]

if you don't fast forward

[violet meadow]

Because the each round would do nothing without a maxro

[vast bane]

if your players forget alot, don't fast forward and install advantage reminder lol

[short aurora]

bugbear's on the money, I think that's the cleanest solution too, handles how much it can be used each turn and everything

[violet meadow]

@river urchin https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol/-/tree/v10#optional-bonus-effects

[scarlet gale]

Do you use the dndbeyond importer?

Cause if so, that feature is already automated on it.

I just imported a character with that feature to take a look at it and noticed it's already done.

[river urchin]

i wanted to speed up things by fast forwarding with midi, if i have to rely on that then it's not as fluid

[vast bane]

just an fyi fast forward is not auto roll

fast forward just clears the two popouts with assumed options

if your players constantly forget things, then you will constantly be undoing things

[river urchin]

ooooh

do i have to set something up for this to know what Celestial Revelation (Radiant Soul) Bonus Damage is?

(well, it's necrotic shroud in this case)

[scarlet gale]

Should just need to swap the damage type in the brackets

It's already using the correct modifier, your proficiency bonus for damage.

[short aurora]

You can change that field to change what's in the chat message when applied

That seems to be all it is

[river urchin]

oh, that's useful. How much things is that able to import?

[scarlet gale]

See #971797877359775824 message

[violet meadow]

Everything you own in DnD Beyond (some types are behind a patreon though)

[short aurora]

... I really should have made sneak attack an optional flag back when my rogue was still alive

[scarlet gale]

It covers a lot of the basics

I use it as a baseline then customize anything it doesn't have already automated with my own macros or found automations.

[river urchin]

thanks!

[scarlet gale]

The midi sample item for sneak attack is pretty functionally good. You can even set it to automatically apply when relevant. I've yet to find an instance when it rolled sneak attack when it shouldn't have.

[violet meadow]

It's really robust indeed.

And the swashbuckling ability too

[vast bane]

We should pin these here:
https://github.com/MrPrimate/Active-Auras

https://github.com/MrPrimate/Active-Token-Lighting

[scarlet gale]

oh cool

Time to check if the he fixed the doubled up effects.

[vast bane]

I'll live with the double up if it means I don't have to edit the majority of aura ability premades in my library of monsters and spells

[river urchin]

do they work for v10 now?

[vast bane]

yes

[river urchin]

😮

[violet meadow]

Active Auras is sketchy

[vast bane]

they also allow the midi srd premades to work in v10 mostly

v10 automation is sketchy in general lol

[scarlet gale]

nah

v10 automation is great

I love all the new modules that are v10 only

[vast bane]

it'd be greater with active auras and ate finally in it 😉

[violet meadow]

I am not sure about Mr. Primate's version, but with Kaelad's one at least

[vast bane]

lights with ae's is pretty important I feel

[scarlet gale]

Going to give it a test

I see a ton of fixes for template auras in the github commits

[violet meadow]

Yeah they were working on that yesterday so 🤷

[vast bane]

I have so many premade stuff using active auras. I'll stick with whatever version exists

[scarlet gale]

My only hate for AA was the doubled up effects

If this version doesn't have that bug, I'll be happy.

[vast bane]

I never saw it in combat, always outside when the partys moving around the pally weirdly

and it was always fixable by walking in and out of it

[scarlet gale]

That didn't always work for me

[vast bane]

you can also just delete the second one

[solid mountain]

With ASE not updated for v10, I've been looking for a way to automate Magic Missile. I wonder if the new "add item from effect" could be used for this.

[scarlet gale]

My darkness automation always wound up with effects being applied to actors outside the template aura

It was less of it being duplicated and more of it applying the effect to people far outside the aura

[vast bane]

oddly I feel like dnd5e's vanilla method is the best way to handle magic missile

[scarlet gale]

because reasons

[solid mountain]

How do you set it up?

[scarlet gale]

Didn't ASE just recently update?

[vast bane]

magic missile raw is one roll, then you go to each target and apply the damage to them

[scarlet gale]

oh Im just crazy

[solid mountain]

So, apply it manually to targets?

I'm fine with the one roll parts, it's more about giving the player a way to choose what missile go where

[vast bane]

then again that new drag and drop feature has potential if you allow rolls for seperate targets

[solid mountain]

"Three missiles on that guys, and two on that guy..."

[violet meadow]

There are/were a couple of macros at least dealing with Magic Missiles

[solid mountain]

Yeah, I've seen plenty of macros for it, but none for v10 that I know of (could be wrong, hard to find).

[vast bane]

a running theme for v10

[scarlet gale]

Would be interesting to have it drop a feature on the actor with a number of charges.

[solid mountain]

Exactly what I was thinking.

[vast bane]

yeah I really think that I'm coming to v10 soon just cause of this new feature lol

so much potential

One thing I really wish is that we could get some buy in from ripper, cause I'd love to see a macro that puts a newly created feature into the front of the line in combat boosters history buttons

[scarlet gale]

I'll likely officially move to v10 for my games once the next dnd update is pushed.

It would take some digging, but I'm betting those are just flags somewhere

I bet you could overwrite them with your own data

I just favorite temp items so it gets pushed to the attributes screen on tidy

[vast bane]

do they stay in favorites even when they poof?

[scarlet gale]

Nah

it's just a flag on the item

[short aurora]

Most macros from v9 to v10 just needs the data treatment. #1010273821401555087 message

[vast bane]

I can't use tidy cause my table has to vote on all changes that mess with the ability to play

[scarlet gale]

That's so strange to me lol

my group just lets the DM dictate the technical stuff

aka me

[vast bane]

there is more than just that fyi

[scarlet gale]

90% of macros are just changing data.data to system

[short aurora]

You can just post an issue on their github, ripper's been kind to me in answering random macro/homemade module questions

[scarlet gale]

Or removing data

that's it

[short aurora]

Just look at #macro-polo and have a look at how many times it really is just that

[vast bane]

we got screwed over badly by roll20 when we went digital and a few guys are just fed up with computers in general and want everything to just work

[scarlet gale]

If you want to to "just work" for DnD you're in for a bad time.

So many features and spells have to be interpreted on a case by case basis.

[vast bane]

right now my sessions are pristine, I just have an outstanding issue with PV but we all agreed the black and white vision is not a necessity so we've shelved it

[solid mountain]

I feel like an idiot, can't find the documentation for the new add item feature.

[vast bane]

its v10 only, and in the newest patch notes

[scarlet gale]

Just checked, range of AA on the new branch is mega broken

But that dev is the creator of the dndbeyond importer so I'm sure it'll get fixed shortly.

[vast bane]

I'm sure it'll be fine by thanksgiving weekend

[solid mountain]

Thanks, I just can't navigate gitlab 🙂

[short aurora]

Worth noting it is in DAE's patch notes, not Midi.

Added new macro effect, macro.createItem CUSTOM uuid, which will create the item referenced by the Uuuid on the target actor. On expiry/removal of the effect the item will be removed, which provides a way of providing a tempoary item/feature to an actor for the duration of the feature. Should simplify a variety of effects that would previously have required a macro to create the feature/item on the target actor.```

[vast bane]

Which one of you guys is making the v10 midi srd 8)

[scarlet gale]

I don't think I've ever used anything out of the midi srd lol

[river urchin]

some days ago i tried to install midi srd (to be able to import things from it), but instalation failed. Now everytime i go to foundry settings this error message pops up

and i cannot stop it because the package is nowhere to be seen

[vast bane]

make a node.js install of foundry v9, copy the midi srd compendiums as world compendiums, then update that world to v10. That is the only way to carry midi srd to v10

[river urchin]

oh, sorry, i don't know how to do that, but i'm no longer trying to import midi srd now, I just want to get rid of the error message

[vast bane]

delete the midi srd folder

NOT midiqol

[river urchin]

yeah xD

[solid mountain]

Hmm, not getting it to work. Has anyone been able to? Feel like I'm missing something

[vast bane]

what versions are you on of dae/midi

[solid mountain]

DAE: 10.0.10
Midi: 10.0.16

I feeeel like it's more me doing it wrong.

[vast bane]

I don't think both of those need to be done

[coarse mesa]

@molten solar your Font of Magic is blowing up! It’s now part of DDB Importer. If only it handled pact slots 😑

[solid mountain]

Alright. 🙂
What do you mean?

[vast bane]

the checkboxes

[solid mountain]

Ah, alright. Thanks.

[vast bane]

if its a self/self spell, then no checkboxes are needed

thats for when you roll a target spell, that also buffs self

[solid mountain]

Hmm, my effect ends up in "unavailable effects" I wonder if that has something to do with it.

[vast bane]

is it an attune item or equippable?

[solid mountain]

A spell.

[vast bane]

don't edit owned items also fyi

where is the item that its suppose to be creating

[solid mountain]

Yeah, i found out what I did wrong.

I edited the item on the actor out of habit.

[vast bane]

A tale as old as time

[solid mountain]

Simply dragging it off and o the actor solved it

Sometimes it works. 🙂

Well, that's step one. Now to see if there is a way to change the number of charges on the summoned spell.

[vast bane]

take the previous args item level and apply it with warpgate to the new item?

[scarlet gale]

It's likely you could have the item macro do that

[vast bane]

have it apply after effects yeah

[scarlet gale]

No need to warpgate the item when you can just update the item since it runs after the effect being applied.

[vast bane]

Also make sure you are using the source of a compendium magic missile

otherwise it will get lost when its deleted in the item sidebar

[scarlet gale]

I have a folder in my item directory just for items I use to warpgate onto actors.

[vast bane]

does it not take compendium items?

[scarlet gale]

It does

But doesn't mean you have to

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[violet meadow]

You are already adding a DAE effect for the macro.createItem.
Add an Effect Macro in there upon creation with some logic to update the Item once created (might need a bit of a delay to wait for the item to actually be on the actor) and boom

[scarlet gale]

Item macros from midi can already be selected for when you want them to run.

In this instance, after the effect creation.

[vast bane]

also can't you use item.level in item macros

[solid mountain]

Yeah, but I need to find the level the spell was cast at.

[vast bane]

yeah I'm pretty sure you can use @item.level

[violet meadow]

All effects should be carrying that data nowadays

[scarlet gale]

Assuming it's a spell, the args for an item macro has the source item info

You can pull the cast at level info from that I'm pretty sure

[vast bane]

oh did they already implement that, that was my idea 8)

[violet meadow]

With the latest versions, effects created will have on them a flags['midi-qol'].castData

[scarlet gale]

So yea, plenty of ways to get the needed info

[solid mountain]

a bit confused by all the tips

[vast bane]

but how to apply it in the act of using it

[violet meadow]

Not in the act, but upon creation

Either Effect Macro, or Item (macro) on use After Active Effects as Chris said, updating the Item

[scarlet gale]

Effect creates the item, macro ninja edits it to whatever you want

such as adding a set number of uses

[solid mountain]

So, let's try the Effect Macro first. I use that mod anyway. 🙂

How would I go about finding the level of the cast spell?

[vast bane]

I'm more concerned with finding the timing to apply it

item macro has it built in

[solid mountain]

Alright, I can try that too. But I still need to find the item level.

(what the spell was CAST as, not it's original level)

[violet meadow]

You will have to wait for tposney to fix a small bug probably 😄

[vast bane]

heres an example of v9 updating the charges of a named item:

const otherItem = actor.items.getName("(Snack Buff)Wolf Spleen Turnover");
const {value, max} = item.data.data.uses;
const {total} = await item.rollFormula();
const toAdd = Math.ceil(total/5);
await otherItem.update({"data.uses": {value: value + toAdd, max: max}});

obviously for a different use case but should help you sus out some of it

no idea about v10

[solid mountain]

What bug?

[violet meadow]

What I was saying before about the castData flags being set in the created effect

[vast bane]

wouldn't the cast data be in the item macro though?

[violet meadow]

Anyways, now you can make it in an onUse macro | After Active Effects

args[0].spellLevel

[solid mountain]

Oh, so that flag isn't created, hence the bug?

[solid mountain]

That was what I was looking for. 🙂

[violet meadow]

The castData flag, right now, is being created ONLY when you use a DAE with a macro.CE on it. All other cases of how effects are being created, were left behind 😅
(some misalignment between the midiqol and DAE updates)

[river urchin]

how do i set an aoe to ignore allies?

[vast bane]

set the target to enemies

[solid mountain]

It seems the ItemMacro needs some sort of delay.

I think the effect "finishes" before the item is technically created.

[violet meadow]

Yeah that's what I thought

[river urchin]

i can't do that because since it's an aoe i have to set target to be a cube or whatever aoe

[violet meadow]

If you have warpgate just add a await warpgate.wait(1500) and check if this does it

[vast bane]

um

what spell?

doesn't special unflag allies/self?

[violet meadow]

https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol#spell-sculpting-flagsmidi-qolsculptspell-and-flagsmidi-qolcarefulspell

If its a sculpt spell ability or careful spell

[vast bane]

isn't there something you can put in the description that midi searches for?

[violet meadow]

Special untargets only self

[river urchin]

thunderclap

[violet meadow]

That is for the auto-fail friendly

[river urchin]

oh, that's enough for the one i'm in, but not for all of them

[vast bane]

thunderclap is not a template

thunderclap is all - creatures 5 ft

this is thunderclap unless you are homebrewing it:

You create a burst of thunderous sound that can be heard up to 100 feet away. Each creature within range, other than you, must make a Constitution saving throw or take 1d6 thunder damage.

your midi ranged targetting settings need to be right for ae ranged attacks

[river urchin]

ooh, now it works, thanks

still, what if a player has careful spell or something like that?

[solid mountain]

Seems to be working decently well.
Downside is you have to click one time for each attack, but I think that workable for the moment.

No real way around it .

You have to choose one way or another. 🙂

I could potentially roll the damage on the first spell, then transform the summoned item to do that damage each time if I wan't to raw it. But rolling is fun.

Anyway, the possibilities of adding items through spell is pretty signigifant.

[violet meadow]

<#1010273821401555087 message>

[solid mountain]

I wished there was a way to bypass this in select cases:

[vast bane]

I'm sure there is, cause midi has it as an option to set

[solid mountain]

Maybe if there was a way to do dnd5e.documents.macro.rollItem("Magic Bolt") but fastforwaded.

[violet meadow]

yeap

[vast bane]

You could just use the document link method if you show descriptions in your game

make the document link a macro that does a damage only workflow on the target

but descriptions is clientside so it'd be weird till you got your players on the same page as you settings wise

[violet meadow]

//For v10 only
Hooks.once("dnd5e.preUseItem", (item,config,options) =>{
  console.log(item,config,options)
    foundry.utils.setProperty(config,'consumeUsage',false)
    foundry.utils.setProperty(config,'needsConfiguration',false)
})

You can pretty much set all these ```js
//V10 only
item.use({
createMeasuredTemplate: false,
consumeQuantity: false,
consumeRecharge: false,
consumeResource: false,
consumeSpellLevel: false,
consumeSpellSlot: false,
consumeUsage: false
}, { configureDialog: false });

[solid mountain]

Cool, so how would this be set on an individual item?

[scarlet gale]

https://gitlab.com/tposney/midi-qol#notes-for-macro-writers

[violet meadow]

You put that as a onUse macro | before the item is rolled

[scarlet gale]

Set configureDialog to false

to not have that pop-up

item.roll({event})

[violet meadow]

Yeah that would be a ```js
foundry.utils.setProperty(options,'configureDialog ',false)

(I think at least, but the `'needsConfiguration',false` should take care of it? *need to check*)

[vast bane]

wouldn't the snippet do all rolls going forward?

[violet meadow]

But the configuration false should do it.

[violet meadow]

nope its hook once

next roll as a preItemRoll hook

[solid mountain]

Hooks.once("dnd5e.preUseItem", (item,config,options) =>{
  console.log(item,config,options)
    foundry.utils.setProperty(config,'consumeUsage',true)
    foundry.utils.setProperty(config,'needsConfiguration',false)
    foundry.utils.setProperty(options,'configureDialog',false)
})

This seemed to work for me 🙂

[violet meadow]

Yeah that should do it for the time being.

At some point tposney might implement as workflowOptions, but even if he doesn't this does it (he suggested this method)

[solid mountain]

Yeah, really useful in some specific cases.

[violet meadow]

My Witch Bolter player is happier with the "dnd5e.preUseItem" hook

[short aurora]

Oh, I think I got one of those, can you share the setup?

[violet meadow]

will do when I am back on PC

[vast bane]

do you use the sequencer animation for witchbolt?

theres a pretty dope macro out there that keeps the animation going looping and stretches as both tokens move

I think its one of badgers warpgate macros

[violet meadow]

yeah have seen that, but I am using just an initial sequence tbh cause I was bored. I need to chain them true

[molten solar]

Where are my royalties?

[violet meadow]

I send you some 💸

Pact slots, why not?

[molten solar]

Idk adding those two lines of code, I'm not sure that's feasible

[violet meadow]

Lol now I remember that you've banned multiclassing

[molten solar]

How does it even work anyway. It was made for Item Macro, not Midi, and to be embedded in the item that has the metamagic points. I didn't think Midi could stop the item from being used, doesn't that mess up the count?

[scarlet gale]

I mean, you can just change the item uses in the item macro.

[molten solar]

That, and because I wrote it at 4 am after having been up for more than 20 hours

[molten solar]

So it expends a use, and you have to add that back or keep in mind all throughout?

[violet meadow]

// FONT OF MAGIC. Author @Zhell
// required modules: midi-qol
// number of points required to regain an nth level spell slot; {slot-level : point-cost}.

// midi changes to skip config dialog and not consume usage

Hooks.once("dnd5e.preUseItem", (item, config, options) => {
  options.configureDialog = false;
  return true;
});
Hooks.once("dnd5e.preItemUsageConsumption", (item, config, options) => {
  config.consumeUsage = false;
  return true;
});
// End of midi changes to macro

I do like the required modules: midi-qol right beneath @Zhell

[scarlet gale]

lol

[molten solar]

Yeah that fucking grinds my goat

Weird to me that Midi doesn't just have Item Macro's most basic feature but ok

[river urchin]

tried using dndbeyond importer, but this one didn't import

[scarlet gale]

Check your ddb importer settings.

You likely forgot to check the box that says create effects.

[river urchin]

aaah i ignored the racial features checkbox because it started saying something about AC

[river urchin]

Nope, still not showing up

[solid mountain]

Fiddling around more with spells.

Is there a way for me to affect a placed template? I'm looking to add Vision Limitation to a template placed by a spell.

[scarlet gale]

You're on v10 right?

[river urchin]

Effects are being created for almost anything else

Yep, v10

[scarlet gale]

Could you screenshot your character import settings for that specific character?

specifically

the active effects tab

[river urchin]

I gotta afk for a while, I'll tell you later, thanks for your help so far!

[scarlet gale]

It should work

But you can just copy what I had in my screenshot from earlier

And adjust it to fit your needs

[river urchin]

any additional setting for the duration screen?

[scarlet gale]

If the duration it set on the feature, no

Should be like a minute

and target set to self

[river urchin]

because right now what is does is every time it rolls for damage, it gets prompted to add this damage

[scarlet gale]

yea

that's just how that works

[river urchin]

there is no way of making it last just 1 hit, right?

[scarlet gale]

Not without macros

it should only show up while that effect is active

if it's not doing that, you're effect is setup wrong

[river urchin]

is there a way to set an active effect as the effect of something?

[scarlet gale]

So it should be a feature you click

on the character features tab

then that feature should have a DAE setup like that

once the effect goes away, it should stop prompting

[river urchin]

yeah, but the ideal situation is for it to be prompted once per turn every turn, and that's not that easy, right?

[short aurora]

If you're in combat, that flag should only prompt you once per turn

(if you use it)

[river urchin]

flags.midi-qol.optional.necroticshroud.count and each-round?

[sudden crane]

It seems that only effects for Radiant Soul as been implemented in ddb importer

[short aurora]

turn

[river urchin]

oh hold on, shoud i write count1?

[solid mountain]

What is the workflow for if the target succeeded a saver or not?

something like args[0].isSaved

[short aurora]

I now realize that Chris' original picture has each-round, that's not how that feature works, is it?

... is that even an argument? I don't see it in the doc

[sudden crane]

Extract from the Celestial Revelation (Radiant Soul) code to add effect:

effect.changes.push(
      {
        key: "data.attributes.movement.fly",
        mode: 4,
        value: "30",
        priority: "20",
      },
      {
        key: "flags.midi-qol.optional.radiantsoul.label",
        mode: 0,
        value: `${document.name} Bonus Damage`,
        priority: "20",
      },
      {
        key: "flags.midi-qol.optional.radiantsoul.count",
        mode: 0,
        value: "each-round",
        priority: "20",
      },
      {
        key: "flags.midi-qol.optional.radiantsoul.damage.all",
        mode: 0,
        value: document.name === "Celestial Revelation (Radiant Soul)" ? "+@prof[radiant]" : "[e-mail][radiant]",
        priority: "20",
      }
    );

[scarlet gale]

Didn't realize you were using the other one

[river urchin]

i think my issue was testing out of combat, so it prompted every time because there were no rounds or turns

[scarlet gale]

my screenshot was from the radiant soul

[river urchin]

necrotic shroud creates an area fear effect when used, but that one wasn't hard to implement

[short aurora]

All the Aasimar I can find says "on each of your turns", so that each-round still looks sus to me

Realistically all it means is that you can use it on your opportunity attacks, mind, so not a big deal

[vast bane]

turns are not rounds

[river urchin]

yeah, I'm not that worried abot that one

but i wrote each-turn just in case

[vast bane]

it shouldn't be each turn, its once on your turn isn't it?

once on each of your turns

[river urchin]

damned be the day i allowed them to use UA. Automating this one is easy till you get to the point where it heals that damage

[vast bane]

round not turn

[river urchin]

aaah that's why it's better each-round

[vast bane]

I never allow ua in my campaigns

[river urchin]

this one isn't as big of a deal. Their character is basically made to stack damage bonus and then smite

[short aurora]

I would be surprised if turn is also not on each of the actor's turn, but I haven't tested it

[sudden crane]

Optional does not seem to support on your turn, only each-round (turn is the same) and each-turn, so the value nearest to the desired result is earch-round for now

[vast bane]

ooff sounds like a min/max table

[vast bane]

not sure what you are saying but each round is sorta closest to your turn

[river urchin]

not really, they need a gzillion turns with bonus actions xD

[short aurora]

This is macro territory unless midi made some advances that I'm unaware of

There's an example similar with the Longsword of Life Stealing in the example compendium

[sudden crane]

That’s what is was trying to say 😀

[river urchin]

is there something that on-effect-expiry does something?

[river urchin]

i'll check it out

[short aurora]

Midi solution would be an item macro, you can also use effect macro

well, just a macro really on the midi front, does not need to be item

[scarlet gale]

You should be able to adjust it to fit your needs.

[solid mountain]

Is there a way to target all creatures except self in midiqol?

In a radius

[short aurora]

Special

Third range box put Special, I believe

[solid mountain]

Target Creature, Range Special.

I see, thanks!

[scarlet gale]

I must have made my previous macro I just posted when I was tired

not sure why I'm checking for piercing resistance lol

[short aurora]

I guess Midi doesn't output the damage calculation and it's something done on the receiving actor's side, since you're doing the dr/immunity work?

[scarlet gale]

yea

but I should be checking for necrotic resistance lol

[river urchin]

oh, thanks!

[scarlet gale]

function checkTrait(type, trait) {
    return args[0].hitTargets[0].actor.data.data.traits[type].value.indexOf(trait) > -1;
}
const lastArg = args[args.length - 1];
if (args[0].hitTargets.length > 0) {
    let damage = Math.ceil(args[0].damageTotal / 2);
    let hasResistance = checkTrait('dr', 'necrotic');
    let hasImmunity = checkTrait('di', 'necrotic');
    if (hasResistance === true) damage = Math.ceil(damage / 2);
    if (hasImmunity != true && damage != 0) {
        let tokenD = canvas.tokens.get(lastArg.tokenId);
        await MidiQOL.applyTokenDamage([{damage: damage, type: 'healing' }], damage, new Set([tokenD]), null, null);
    }
}```

There

[river urchin]

oh, the necrotic xD

[scarlet gale]

This one is a better reference

This is for v9, you'll need to convert a few small things to make it work for v10

I think just change data.data to system

[molten solar]

anyway, now it works with pact magic. Now do me a solid and tell them to stop being lazy.

[scarlet gale]

also, the damage line will need to be changed to not half it

[river urchin]

issue is Baleful Scion buffs your next attack, it isn't an attack per se

idk if that changes the formula

[scarlet gale]

oh

[river urchin]

and you can use it after you know you've hit

like a smite

[scarlet gale]

you'll need to do something else then

this was just something I had as an item macro for vampiric touch

[violet meadow]

Check the Branding Smite in MidiQOL sample items

That one can be the base for all lots of features that can be rolled and confer a bonus in the future (like next attack or whatever)

[short aurora]

I don't think that matters much, just make it a feature instead, you presumably still target someone with it to do damage?

[river urchin]

it adds to the damage roll

i'm fine with just healing that damage by hand

[violet meadow]

wait what's the feature?

[vast bane]

some ua thing

[river urchin]

#1010273821401555087 message

[violet meadow]

Separate feature with an onUse macro. Either make it heal yourself and macro applydamage to target by the same amount, or the other way around.
Here @vast bane shares the Necrotic Shroud macro

[short aurora]

They want it in the same calculation as the weapon attack it seems...

[vast bane]

huh?

[short aurora]

I don't think I even do that with my divine smites because of how much of a pita that is

[vast bane]

do you want me to share the life transferrance macro I use?

[violet meadow]

Ah that one

[vast bane]

my weird one that is backwards so it would work with AA better?

[scarlet gale]

Just edited my above macro, I don't think it was even working right originally lol

[violet meadow]

That one, if still needed

[vast bane]

My weird Life Transferrance spell that is not raw but works perfectly for my needs:

const {tokenId, damageTotal, itemCardId} = args[0];

const sourceToken = canvas.scene.tokens.get(tokenId);
const sourceActor = sourceToken.actor;
const necroDamageTotal = 0.5 * damageTotal;
const necroDamageRoll = await new Roll(`${necroDamageTotal}`).evaluate({async:true});
new MidiQOL.DamageOnlyWorkflow(sourceActor, sourceToken, necroDamageTotal, "necrotic", [sourceToken], necroDamageRoll, {flavor: "Life Transference", itemCardId});```

The actual spell is setup as a heal

so it does half the damage to the caster in the item macro

I dunno if this is what you were thinkin of or not

also this is v9, but I don't think anything changes in v10

I had my life transferrance changed to this cause I wanted my players to be able to setup their automated animations the normal way, if we did an item macro the effects would have to be sequencer macros and I didn't want that

[scarlet gale]

You could probably just make it an onuse item macro in the effect.

That runs the world macro

If it just buffs the attack

[vast bane]

you could also just make it an attack or whatever, and then after the fact right click and apply heal to self of the damage done

[river urchin]

thanks you all for trying to help me

but i'm struggling to understand most of all of this

so i think i'm just gonna heal it afterwards

[vast bane]

I'd just make it an independent free action item with charges. Have it deal damage to a target and then remember to right click and apply heal to self

[violet meadow]

Strange question for @vast bane. Lets say you attack as a GM a PC.
With your MidiQOL settings, on their client, how many cards appear regarding that attack?

[vast bane]

100% macro and complication free, only semi automated

[vast bane]

mines not an attack

life transferrance is a heal

[river urchin]

i have allwayshp, i'll heal the damage afterwards

[violet meadow]

nonono I meant in general, not regarding this topic.

Bugbear attacks player. Player gets how many chatCards ?

[river urchin]

because as you say, i prefer to be complication free xD

[vast bane]

player should get 2 cards cause I rock that chaser card for players

but the DM doesn't see it

he makes it so the DM can't see that weird card

oh if the players taking the damage, the player gets the actual damage application card

if the layers doing damage to a bad guy, then the weird no button card chases

if the DM attacks a DM, normal methods

[violet meadow]

Alright! Just checking to see what checks I need to get where I need to go with different settings 😄

[vast bane]

are you seeing both cards?

[violet meadow]

No worries, it's for something I am cooking up now

[vast bane]

does it really matter to round? It doesn't seem to break the health:

[violet meadow]

I think tposney takes care of it, but I would floor it to be safe

[vast bane]

This is what I was talking about for my workflow, player view vs dm view

[violet meadow]

Good Good

[acoustic jasper]

Array.from(workflow.hitTargets)[0].actor.effects.find(eff=>eff.label!=='GhulSlowed') - I'm trying to use activate condition to exclude an effect - So my Ghul will only try to slow someone who is not already slowed. For some reason === works but !== does not :/

[steel apex]

What I ended up thinking last night, will test today.

[steel apex]

This was the case on Spike Growth but the MrPrimate update to AA (which includes Kaelad’s changes and a few others) fixed that for me last night.

[pulsar apex]

I'm having an issue that I think midi is causing. I force a save on a target, the game sends a chat message about the save but then waits about 30 seconds before automatically making the save roll. I had an issue like this yesterday where one of my actors has built in reactions but I've made sure that midi checks for reactions so that shouldn't be it

[vast bane]

is there a player logged into the session?

[pulsar apex]

just me

this is the chat though

[vast bane]

what you described is normal behavior if your saves are set to chat message

if you do not want saves automated, turn them off in midi

[pulsar apex]

no no I want them automated. I just was thinking there shouldn't be a 30 second delay between it saying the actor will make a save and then having them roll it

[vast bane]

if you want it automated where you don't have to roll, then set them to auto

chat message imposes a manual response and then after the timeout an auto roll happens

You have time set in the last option, and chat message for your save options

I prefer to roll, cause auto is rarely right

[pulsar apex]

let me try putting it on monks token bar. that is the only difference between yours and mine

[vast bane]

do you have monk's token bar module?

what was your settings set to though?

if it was chat message, its not going to auto roll

neither will mtb

[pulsar apex]

all 3 of those were set to none

so the way it goes is I cast frostbite, hit the damage button, it rolls damage, says it will roll the save, and then 30 seconds later actually rolls the save

[vast bane]

thats cause you have a 30 second timer at the bottom

[pulsar apex]

oh because I have the target as a player character token

if it was an npc it would roll automatically?

[vast bane]

no, you need to set it to auto if you want it to roll automatically, but my point is you don't want auto

very often it will roll normal when it had disadvantage or advantage, unless you have a perfectly setup system, auto is not wise

[pulsar apex]

ah i see ok

ok now I think it's set like you are suggesting. it prompts the save in the GM chat and then the save still needs to be manually done

[vast bane]

probably because you don't have monk's token bar?

[steel apex]

What’s that player view from?

[vast bane]

Midi qol

[steel apex]

Hmm what setting for that bottom box?

[vast bane]

I already showed you mine, I don't fast forward, so I do not use auto, if you want them to auto rolll, pick auto in the drop downs

[steel apex]

Ok I’ll scroll back up through to find your settings.

[acoustic jasper]

does flags.midi-qol.grants.critical works?

It doesn't for me

[vast bane]

are you mistaking it for just critical?

that effect makes it so anyone who hits them crits

[acoustic jasper]

yes

for paralyzed

but it doesn't work

[vast bane]

paralyzed is already automated you don't need to make it

wtf...is this wrong?:

Dfreds has paralyzed setup like this

critical range?

[short aurora]

I think that is critical range in ft?

As in, grants critical if within x ft range, so 5 for melee?

[vast bane]

OOOOOH I thought that was threshold

[acoustic jasper]

no... sadly it doesn't work if you're not checking automatycly if target was hit

[vast bane]

Oskar install dfreds CE, your life will be alot easier

[acoustic jasper]

"

I'm not using that - cause in my games we like to do that manually

but If I check "Never" there - auto crits doesn't work

[vast bane]

thats the cost of manual then, may want to consider using ready set roll instead, most of the flags won't work for you

[short aurora]

Hmm, mine doesn't actually work with that even if fully fast forwarded.

[vast bane]

Mines working

[river urchin]

I'm trying active auras and Aura of protection is quite wonky

[vast bane]

if you are on v10, the active auras is still very much in testing

report the bugs to primates git so it can get better

[violet meadow]

Anyone around who wants to try a v10 Fire Shield automated spell?
Needed: MidiQOL, DAE, DFreds CE, Effect Macro.
Import the attached Item, put it on a character sheet, roll it.
Should apply the normal DFreds Fire Shield Effect when first rolled and let you choose Fire or Cold resistance.

Then if someone hits you with a melee weapon or spell attack, it should roll 2d8 of appropriate damage and deal it back at them 🤞
(send me your MidiQOL settings if it doesn't work to check interactions)

[solid mountain]

What is causing the red thingies on this?

[violet meadow]

Custom CSS based on game.user.color

[acoustic jasper]

by the way - with new midi-qol, we can finally automate blocking regneration for Trolls or Vampires. Just add an effect to your fire spells (like "On Fire) and then give passive regeneration to your Troll with OverTime effect: turn=start, damageRoll=10, damageType=healing, condition=@attributes.hp.value > 0 && @attributes.hp.value < @attributes.hp.max && !effects.some(ef=>ef.label==="On Fire")

[violet meadow]

Indeed, but I would go the other way around. A feature on the Troll, that Hooks.on("updateActor") and adds a flag or an effect on it whenever Fire damage is dealt

[solid mountain]

My curiosity is peaked.

[acoustic jasper]

yeah, but then you need to do that for Vampires (radiant damage) and maybe others (in my games Lycantrophs are healing if not dealt silvered damage)

[vast bane]

incorrect, advantage reminder now has that as part of the module

[violet meadow]

even better

[violet meadow]

Yeah you will do that once for each feature when you create it, instead of making all your weapons push an Effect on the target

[short aurora]

Doesn't seem to work for me, no prompt and no effect added, just the "delete me to delete Fire Shield effect" one. I just exported for tposney so I can do it for you too :^) edit: no errors in console and nothing else pops up of notice

[vast bane]

its built into the module Advantage Reminder for 5e. But you can't use fast forward in midi or you'll never see them

[acoustic jasper]

I'm not sure how to do that - especially when there is no "silvered damage" (but there is a silvered weapon porp)

[violet meadow]

Yeah you can check for that. I can cook something up later. Good idea!

[violet meadow]

Do you case as GM and is your player connected?

If you cast it on a PC

[short aurora]

I just tested as a GM on a pc, uno momento

Seemingly no difference

[violet meadow]

Damn all these different settings 😄
investigating

[river urchin]

i'm checking my modules, and ATL is in v9

https://github.com/MrPrimate/Active-Token-Lighting/blob/main/module.json

i used this thing (in raw) to install it

[short aurora]

Oooh, this uses Effect Macro, whoopsie doopsie, don't have that enabled... >_>

I was wondering where all the magic was supposed to happen

[vast bane]

ATL and Active auras are offered by Mr primate to test as they are just forks to be v10 compatible

[river urchin]

however, if i press update right after installing that, i'm presented with this option

and if hit yes, it just gets stuck loading at 100%

[vast bane]

you have a v9 module installed and bugged, I'd just delete the module folder and install primates manually

if you can make a v9 install, do so and grab midi srd's compendiums, will speed up alot of your creation of stuff in midi

[short aurora]

Works now! What's with the dummy effect for deletion though, just curious?

[violet meadow]

@vast bane v10 MidiSRD : https://github.com/thatlonelybugbear/midi-srd/releases/download/10.0.1/module.json

But it doesn't point back to the original. Have to change that so as to be able to update automatically when the main is updated

[river urchin]

the module you're seen in that screenshot is the result of manually instally primate's

[vast bane]

did you have the v9 version already in your modules folder?

[violet meadow]

Delete that to get rid of the effect, if you don't let it die out of boredom duration expiration

[river urchin]

i don't recall, no, but i'll check

[narrow saddle]

Hi I am on v10,

Is it a module or core that prompts a player to use a reaction? The one that pops up in the centre of the screen.

It is working for me but not for a player. (Note I am logged in on a Chromium (not Chrome) browser when GM and Chrome as a player)

[vast bane]

midi settings, you have to turn it on for players

[violet meadow]

Go to your Midi Settings => Workflow settings => Reactions Tab and check if you have them on for Player

[vast bane]

but the players have to have reactions and they have to be the target

[vast bane]

sometimes module hang like that, have you tried reinstalling?

uaualloy its just the really large ones that do that, but Mrprimates a very popular download target so he may just have alot of folks pulling from him atm

[narrow saddle]

The reaction is appearing in Chat - "Sir Knight has a reaction and can use it" but no pop up.

[narrow saddle]

Hi Bugbear, yeah it is checked.

[river urchin]

uninstalled and tried to install with primate's link, same result

[vast bane]

I bet you its that error again where the reaction prompt is bugging out

have the player look at their console

[violet meadow]

Have you already used a reaction during the round?

[narrow saddle]

I am testing it myself on a Chrome window, no players about just yet to help me lol

[vast bane]

navigate to modules/whatever the module is, and deelete the folder manually(atl is active token effects I believe)

[violet meadow]

Can you screnshot your Reaction settings?

[short aurora]

I spoke a little too soon @violet meadow , the "reflect" damage does not seem to work, even if I try the full auto config.

[Detected 1 package: effectmacro]
    at eval (eval at executeScripts (main.mjs:21), <anonymous>:18:73)
    at Map.find (commons.js:3216)
    at Object.eval [as fn] (eval at executeScripts (main.mjs:21), <anonymous>:18:33)```

[vast bane]

what are your errors?

[narrow saddle]

No, first reaction of the round. It is popping up in chat. But not in the middle of the screen.

[narrow saddle]

I will take a look see.

[vast bane]

I have seen this bug before

its a v10 issue, it will be a really weird handlebar error

[violet meadow]

ok checking

[vast bane]

a server restart fixes it

we need to get a moderator to pin the 3 forks ;p

[narrow saddle]

No errors, not even any warnings.

[vast bane]

what is the reaction it claims you can do in the message?

[violet meadow]

Can you screenshot your Reaction tab settings as the GM?

[narrow saddle]

It does not say specifically, I have tried with two different characters with two completely different reactions and in the chat it just says - Sir Knight is damaged by Pincer and can use a reaction.

[vast bane]

show us your settings

[violet meadow]

OK I am using the MidiQOL Damage Card for auto damage application and you don't.
Need to check the message structure.

Do you have any other modules that change the displayed message or something?

[violet meadow]

OK and the reaction Item setup ?

[vast bane]

check the box thats not checked

[river urchin]

done that, installed https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MrPrimate/Active-Token-Lighting/main/module.json this again manually. Same result, i install v9