#OneD&D Stream and Discussion

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misty canopy
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Or this. I don't think it really matters if you restrict ability choice or not. You're typically going to buff stats that help the same role as the feat anyway

finite nacelle
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They could have just abandoned ability scores

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but that would be brave, they don't do brave

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so they're just even more insignificant now

obtuse wedge
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I feel like all they are really doing is creating modes of play really. 5e is going to be the Ironman mode and the new one dnd stuff is going to be what all the easy mode people prefer.

night jay
obtuse wedge
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I hope its a complete flop, but thats just cause I bought 2 xge's and 2 tashas for a fucking book that went obsolete in a few months. that they were packaged with. The reality is I'll still buy the damned books cause I have like 5 versions of the strahd story on my shelf lol. I'm a glutton for punishment.

night jay
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If the things we are seeing are just marginally true, I am totally not buying anything.

obtuse wedge
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I think the real problem this time around however is that theres 2 buckets of players. The Campaign player and the DDAL/Oneshot/XGE style player. They are not the same DnD. Guess whose running UA test games alot and providing feedback to the playtests/UA's? Not campaigns. We're gonna wind up with a really bad campaign toolset out of the new books.

night jay
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I mean, I totally ban the origin thing of Tasha. Both as a player and as a DM, it's something totally unacceptable.

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One seems to be going in that direction.

obtuse wedge
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My campaign ran with custoizing your origin and it didn't break anything. I am also doing a two subclass style reward system where they progress with a faction and gain their second subclass choice in features.

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The key to customizing your origin is to not have powergamers/metagamers in your table

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if they are dropping proficiencies for a build, then they are not the player you want. You want the player that has their backstory filled out first and is struggling asking for advice on how to properly convey an aspect of their characters RP/backstory with game mechanics, thats where customizing your origin can shine.

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what that looks like most of the time is dropping specific weapon profs for tools and languages, not the other way around

night jay
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It's just plain awful imo. You can do whatever you want without limits. Races become just flavour, you don't have to choose between a few options regardings your skills.
Players shouldn't have everything at will.

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My group is made of minmaxer

obtuse wedge
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nah I want my players to have stuff in the 1-4 game, its so boring otherwise, I was fine with custom lineage and asi swapping and even level 1 feats.

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thats also another thing about one dnd that looks bad, some of the subclass stuff is later, like font of inspiration is later

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not sure how that effects bards but if their bardics are heals/inspiration and you have to wait till the games half over to be able to use them like candy, seems late

night jay
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I don't agree that levels 1-4 are boring. At level 1 and 2 you really have the thrill of death, especially with a few houserules.

obtuse wedge
night jay
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It's just different gameplay

obtuse wedge
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I don't think tashas or one dnd has fixed the thrill of death you speak of lol

night jay
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Because there isn't much to fix?

obtuse wedge
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that first encounter in phandelver and dragon heist will still be a flip of the coin death match

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My issue is just that theres so little resources to use in an adventuring day in 1-4

night jay
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That's where the fun is

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You are basically an average dude trying to live

obtuse wedge
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I don't see that. You can run maybe 1-3 encounters for that adventuring day. at level 9 I'm running 15ish encounters in an adventuring day, much more fun cause you get run ragged and the day becomes a challenge no matter how powerful that one punch man pally is.

night jay
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As I said, it's a different gameplay

obtuse wedge
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exactly, which is right back to my point about whose testing one dnd

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oneshot/ddals are, where there is no such thing as the concept of an adventuring day cause the life of the character is in 4 hour spurts

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not 8 months

night jay
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We don't even know if there is any adventuring day mechanic in One

obtuse wedge
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To the oneshot community it doesn't matter how much shit they get from new books cause the limiting factor is how many fish in a barrel they can shoot before the buzzer sounds and their one shot is over.

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I just really don't care, I dunno why I drag this out, it doesn't matter, ultimately I'm still going to be peer pressured into buying the books and hosting the content anyway. I'm really just venting is all.

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I'll make it work cause I always make it work.

night jay
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I Just hope they won't rebrand 5e with this One. That's all.

obtuse wedge
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It will not be rebranded with a word, 5e was dndnext, nobody calls it that

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it will always be Xe

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look at the history of the versions

obtuse elk
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Aye, the playtest has always had a code name.

night jay
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You understood what I meant.

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Don't touch my 5e

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I don't care about anything else.

obtuse wedge
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5e will become something like what 3.5e is to 5e when the onshots/ddals move on to whatever we call One dnd

night jay
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I hope so.

dull crown
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3.5e and 4e still have fairly sizeable communities, and there's plenty more options out there that aren't D&D

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No matter what happens with this next edition, there'll still be a community to play with

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Finding enough players to put together a game that isn't D&D 5e however is almost as big a challenge as scheduling 😆

night jay
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Yeah

obtuse elk
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I can't really say that's been my experience.

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It might take more than four seconds after posting to get enough (vetted) players to get started, but it's hardly been a challenge for me.

night jay
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It also really depends on where you live/what you speak.
English-speaking nations probably have it easier.

obtuse wedge
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a Dm can always find a table, its finding a table that lasts past level 1.

obtuse elk
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Also an issue I don't really have. Maybe I'm just really good at vetting for the kind of player I want at my table.

obtuse wedge
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and avoiding overly sexualized tieflings, pop culture gag character makers, and batmans at your table.

obtuse elk
night jay
obtuse wedge
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I haven't vetted in a whlie cause my main table is pretty solid, we've had guest players join and then fizzle though, all unvetted and often the problem types

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My last four dropouts were, wanted to play an evil character, didn't have time to play dnd, wanted to control how everyone else plays too, and I think stackexchange rulings are better than your rulings and I don't really think the PHB and DMG should matter when checking whether I can sneak attack 3 times a turn

night jay
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Well, the last 3 types are somewhat easy to indentify before inviting them to the table.

obtuse wedge
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that one player who had to quit cause of no time to play was very likely a strong candidate for good dnd but alas, he was too busy 😦

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my table guests are usually word of mouth allowed in cause they are a friend of a player

night jay
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Yeah, terribile practice. I allow in only people I know nowdays.

obtuse wedge
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we're so rock solid we can handle anything, the guy who was control freak, got the boot by the players I didn't even have to intervene.

sharp plume
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I have seen similar complaints about every new edition of D&D over the last 50 years. If you don't like the latest edition you don't have to play it and your books aren't obsolete. That is why there are still communities still playing every edition from OD&D (Original) up to 4e. Just play the edition you enjoy.

obtuse wedge
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also a good fun filled forgotten realms campaign is best served with a Dm with a ton of resources from a bunch of editions(and novels really too)

sterile hawk
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I'm all aboard the 5.5e train so far.

crude tendon
obtuse elk
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I mean, we have seven or eight setting books, something like nine supplements, and well over thirty or forty campaign/adventure books.

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Let's also not forget that any material for 5.5e is supposed to be backwards compatible to 5e, so porting anything new should be relatively simple.

white plover
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Epic boon of the night spirit says you can become invisible until you take an action. Doesn't that imply you can't take the Hide action?

obtuse elk
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More that you should Hide beforehand.

white plover
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Also funny to think that you can't do a study action to remember knowledge. A Lvl20 epic boon is obviously an edge case, but it's interesting to point out at the least

obtuse wedge
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well they could, but they do cunning action hide usually

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but we also probably haven't seen if invisibiility is changed in one dnd

obtuse elk
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It's in this new playtest material. Page 34.

finite nacelle
misty canopy
tidal veldt
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I see some clarity of terms that I like. From the Sharpshooter feat's Long Shots ability:

... ranged Attack Rolls with Weapons.
Before, there were problems where "melee weapon attack" meant a melee attack with a weapon and "melee-weapon attack" (with a hyphen) meant an attack with a melee weapon. I'll be real happy if these distinctions go away. This mainly clarifies things like attacking with thrown weapons. For example, it appears as if Sharpshooter works with thrown weapons.