Compiling map with sdk doesn't do lighting | Sven Co-op | Page 1

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 5:59 AM

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When I compile my map using the compiler EXEs in the SDK it doesn't do lighting. (I'm probably doing something wrong)

Here are the steps i take to compile my map (Please tell me if I'm doing something wrong)
Fist I copy the .map file into the compilation tools folder in the SDK.
Then I run these tools in order with these parameters.

./SC-CSG_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map
./SC-BSP_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map
./SC-VIS_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map
./SC-RAD_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map

Then I copy every file the tools generated to my svencoop_addons/maps folder and test (I've also tried opening the map in hammer but it just crashed)

I have provided screenshots of my map and the map it's based off of (in game) (first 3 are my map, last 3 are from the original map)
I can also send the .map file if its needed

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 7:16 AM

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I assume you've already added some light entities in your map, so the next common issue is that you have a leak in your level.

you should check for any errors and warnings in the compile log (it's as easy as copying the compile log to a text editor and doing a case-insensitive search for error and then for warning)

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if you have a leak, you can follow this guide to locate and fix it: https://twhl.info/wiki/page/Tutorial:_How_to_fix_those_leaks

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 7:26 AM

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woah thats a lot of warnings

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 7:53 AM

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that sort of problem can usually be found and fixed in the SvenCraft in the Check for Problems dialogue (Ctrl+P)

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:03 AM

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radiant yacht that sort of problem can usually be found and fixed in the SvenCraft in the Chec...

svencraft just crashes when i try to open the map in it :(

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nvm

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i fixed it

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:07 AM

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oh, you've been using TB to create the map?
I have yet to try it out myself, so can't help out much there

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:07 AM

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loaded the map in svencraft, said something like "5 solids not loaded due to errors in the map file"

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:09 AM

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radiant yacht that sort of problem can usually be found and fixed in the SvenCraft in the Chec...

uh ctrl P opened up a print dialogue

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i found the thing that was causing errors in the log (but probably didnt cause a leak) (if there even is a leak)

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ok now its only 3 solids

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:24 AM

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long nimbus uh ctrl P opened up a print dialogue

sorry, my mistake, Alt+P was the shortcut.
also, SvenCraft doesn't have a print dialogue?

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:25 AM

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then how tf did i open a print dialogue

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yay problems

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:26 AM

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the axis perpendicular textures can be fixed with the Fix all (of type) button, then reopen the dialogue

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:27 AM

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yay

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:31 AM

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great! 👌
now try to compile it again

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just be aware that the Check for Problems dialogue does only a rough check for problems that the editor can see, and there are other types of problems that only the compilers can detect

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:32 AM

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found some weird things in the map after fixing but i think it should be fine

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its doing something

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:35 AM

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looks like RAD is running! that's a very good sign!

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:36 AM

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uh

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 8:38 AM

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did you copy the BSP to the maps folder?
also if you placed it in /svencoop_addon/maps it's worth checking that there isn't a copy in /svencoop/maps, which would override the former

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 8:45 AM

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everything seems to be fine (map in svencoop_addon, no map in svecoop)

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 9:15 AM

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i can send the .map file

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 9:22 AM

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sure thing, feel free to either post it here or DM it to me

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 9:23 AM

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heres the fixed version and the version before i opened it in svencraft

📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map 📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 9:50 AM

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just compiled it and it looks fine to me

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 9:50 AM

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huh

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how did you compile it

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 9:54 AM

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SC-CSG_x64.exe <map> -cliptype precise
SC-BSP_x64.exe <map>
SC-VIS_x64.exe <map>
SC-RAD_x64.exe <map> -chart

-chart just prints a table of map limits in the log

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just a very simple, standard compile process, nothing fancy going on

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 9:55 AM

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i just do

./SC-CSG_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map
./SC-BSP_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map
./SC-VIS_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map
./SC-RAD_x64.exe pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map

guess i could try -cliptype precise but idk if that would change anything

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 9:55 AM

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it wouldn't

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but I did open the pvp_blockbuildings_plus.fix.map file and export it as just pvp_blockbuildings_plus.map and that worked.
you might want to try renaming it pvp_blockbuildings_plus-fix.map, in case that period makes the compiler think .fix is the extension (which it strips off, iirc), making it compile the old version

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the compilers mostly just care about the filename without the extension, as it looks up other files of the same filename but different extensions during the process

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:01 AM

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ok i changed the .fix to _fix, compiling it

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still doesn't work

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 10:04 AM

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anything in the compile logs?

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:04 AM

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maybe i should update the sdk?? (i think i havent updated it at all since i installed it like a year ago)

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:05 AM

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radiant yacht anything in the compile logs?

nothing new, i think

📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus_fix.err 📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus_fix.log

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 10:05 AM

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FindFacePositions:
 (1.79 seconds)
BuildFacelights:
Malformed face (526) normal @ 
(526.61, 863.30, -101.00)
(527.30, 863.35, -101.00)
(527.30, 863.35, -97.00)
(526.61, 863.30, -97.00)
Error: Malformed face normal
Description: The texture alignment of a visible face is unusable
Howto Fix: If using Worldcraft, do a check for problems and fix any occurences of 'Texture axis perpindicular to face'

did you even search for error? :p

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:14 AM

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yeah but i thought i fixed that...

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:14 AM

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oh hey its that one pvp crowbar map

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:15 AM

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im making it spawn you with weapons because i dont want to give everyone cheats but i couldnt do that without decompiling and editing the map so i decided to also change some things

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:18 AM

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oh you decompiled the map and then restored it?

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:22 AM

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wdym restored

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i just changed some things and made a new cfg (also removed trigger that gives you crowbar (and i think it made it so that you dont spawn with other weapons but idk))

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:23 AM

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usually when you decompile the map it has destructive brushwork

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:24 AM

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i have no idea what a destructive brushwork is but i used some tool i found to turn it into a .map and opeened it in tb then spent an hour figuring out how tb works and how to compile

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 10:26 AM

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ah, in that case it might have been easier to just use BSPGuy or Ripent to add the weapons and items, since what you want to do is entity changes only, right?

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that way you don't have to deal with decompiled geometry, and the BSP version isn't changed

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:27 AM

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i tried doing that but i couldnt make it give me weapons on start (i've tried deleting the crowbar trigger, changing the config ofc, removing the script from bm_sts it uses for some reason and it still didnt work)

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holy shit IT WORKED

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 10:31 AM

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if you want to equip the same set of weapons for all players on the map on spawn then you can either specify that in the <map_name>.cfg file, e.g.

weapon_pipewrench
weapon_crowbar
weapon_medkit
weapon_glock
ammo_9mm 15

or use game_player_equip (https://www.svenmanor.com/entity-guide/game_player_equip)

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:31 AM

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ye i did that

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heres the final compiled map btw

📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus.bsp 📎 pvp_blockbuildings_plus.cfg

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:32 AM

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doesnt the map auto-give you crowbar every 10~ secodns so you can throw it around

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:32 AM

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thats a lot of explorer

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:32 AM

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based sharex user

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:32 AM

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stoic maple doesnt the map auto-give you crowbar every 10~ secodns so you can throw it aroun...

it does but i removed it

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 10:33 AM

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but its a fun gimmick :(

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:38 AM

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bruh the pvp is gone

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i cant damage other ppl (what did i do)

radiant yacht Aug 22, 2024, 10:41 AM

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possibly the removal of the bm_sts script, which might been assigning players to different teams

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 10:43 AM

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so thats why its called TeamSprite

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(the script)

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un-commented the script, still no pvp

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 11:29 AM

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the script is actually just replacing the take cover and medic sounds

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if its a timber map its probably uses the gman pvp setup

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 11:30 AM

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wait i remember something with a lot of gmans and some triggers

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but i deleted it

stoic maple Aug 22, 2024, 11:32 AM

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you fool! it controlled the entire system! how dare you banish the gmans!

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though it was first made by trempler

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http://scmapdb.wikidot.com/prefab:pvp-prefab

long nimbus Aug 22, 2024, 11:54 AM

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ok now how do i add this to the map in tb

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ok i did it

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now its time to test it

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