CSO Weapons

[half tendon]

How many weapons does CSO have? + Vanilla Sven Co-op weapons take account or it's only custom weapons?

[austere dock]

300++ plus 26 weapons total, maybe 350++ if ported all of them, which is not possible, thus have to divide each weapons in 5 or 6 register scripts and let the player choose which weapon script they want to run (IF ported all)

[chilly jacinth]

in file is ||10K|| item / unreleased item
& they keep duplicating same item make it new varian

[stuck crow]

I think it would be a good idea to just port as much weapons as possible at the moment and server operator could use some specific ones as desired (in my case, I just disabled only vanilla CS guns from this plugin 'cause I already have a CSCZ guns)

[bitter valve]

I'm trying to make the weapons as close to the originals as possible, but sometimes I just have to fix things

When firing the AT4 in cso, the smoke spawns dead center in the player's view, instead of when the muzzle of the launcher is

[austere dock]

can it be fix nero?

[bitter valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/818992669413212170/1226247798035578942/20240406210850_1.jpg?ex=66241341&is=66119e41&hm=0f2d75d5d6645ac6dd5fb1695306847a0b18ac13437a2d30ed49386550d926ce& ofc (ignore the circle)

[austere dock]

o damn :ayaya:

[bitter valve]

Explosion looks OK?

[austere dock]

YESSSSS I LOVE ITT

[half tendon]

I wonder what's next on the table? Other than the LMGs, and MMGs I mentioned a while above... the USAS would be something, or a Winchester M1887.

[bitter valve]

ooooooo

I need to make an M1887

[half tendon]

M79 as well.

https://cso.fandom.com/wiki/M2HB_Devastator
🤔

An M2 Browning variant, but has some specialties...

[scenic zealot]

They have Penetrator missile for Alt fire.

[half tendon]

https://cso.fandom.com/wiki/Quantum_Horizon
🤔

[bitter valve]

#what-makes-you-a-rage is when I'm ready to release a weapon, but then I notice this

Encroyable

[austere dock]

you can use weapon_m3 as base :ayaya:

[austere dock]

thisun? :p

[bitter valve]

Fixed it!

Importing the skeleton from the RPG actually worked

[bitter valve]

Added M136 AT4

38 weapons done

[austere dock]

Yayyyyyyy

[bitter valve]

weapon_at4ex first

Should be a quickun

[austere dock]

yeeeeee

[bitter valve]

Which drop looks best?
Visible immediately, or once the weapon stops moving?

[bitter valve]

Testing the homing ability I set the player as the target, but it can't hit the player that fired it so it just keeps going back and forth

[austere dock]

I like once its stop moving :p

[austere dock]

LMAO like Hornetgun www

[half tendon]

I know I've asked this for a while, but I wonder how can you make a custom Buy Menu plugin despite using Counter-Strike 1.6 Weapons plugin as the base, or Condition Zero's? I've given up on this due to how dumb I am especially with how CSO weapons scripts are done.

Hmmm....

[austere dock]

its all focused on registering the custom cso weapons on weapons.as in cs16 folder and also adding their buy lists in cs16_register.as.

as for me, kerncore's cs16 weapons registeration has been modified by me, i move the register file to weapons.as

[austere dock]

oh yeah @bitter valve , i got this error too when registering AT4. I think you forgot to include CSODevWeapon script

[half tendon]

CSODevWeapon script DOES not exist, at least on the pack that's released and updated.

[austere dock]

yeah, thats why i ping nero. i think once he woke up he will upload the file

oh i think this is fixable. maybe should remove CSODevWeapon base from csobaseweapon.as in the class line. it should work i believe. lemme try.

yeah it worked :ayaya:

@half tendon you have to comment out CSODevWeapon base from the class line for CBaseCSOWeapon

[half tendon]

Yep, fixed it.

[half tendon]

You just added all the CSO weapons on the cs16 stuff? 🤔

Since I have the Condition Zero version... CSCZ?

[austere dock]

you can do that too, you just have to register in cscz_register.as

tons of trial and error. whenever the plugin crash, i will check the console log to see which part i got the error and fix it, like nero said, facesmashing sometimes to make it work :ayaya:

[obsidian chasm]

good good, this great work from Nero will be the base for the hl2 weapons in the far future >:)

[half tendon]

Okay, I think I managed to get at least one weapon to work.

[austere dock]

i can actually give you my script if you want to see how it works though.

[half tendon]

I just forgot to put " " on weapon_thanatos9, so it turns into a string.

[austere dock]

yep errors like that often occur, need to check your console log always :ayaya:

[austere dock]

SC default limit of weapons bucket so far is 256. So the limit is 256 for all CSO weapons, but need to see the resources issue too, and yeah, cant carry all 256 CSO weapons in one map. So the server owner has to choose any of the CSO weapons that they want in their register file to run in their server to avoid server crash

[bitter valve]

Nah, I forgot to remove that line

[bitter valve]

I should probably start using a checklist

[austere dock]

yepyep

[austere dock]

ohoo understandable, it has been fixed on my end, still thank you nero :ayaya:

just like Serious Sam :ayaya:

[atomic magnet]

you start running into issues if you get that many

specially the server will start lagging as its predicting a lot of weapons for every player in the server

256 weapons is the maximum limit allowed for registering weapons

256-32 which leaves you with 224 slots

32 slots are always reserved by the engine/game

[austere dock]

speaking of which kerncore, i check the latest sprite of ins2 weapons, saw some m79 china lake one and aug one. do you have any plan to release the new weapons in the future or its just there because you dont have any plan to release them any sooner ?

[atomic magnet]

the project is paused

Norman is busy irl

[austere dock]

ah understandable, its aight take your time though. just love your weapons scripting and also nero's, packin a punch when using them

[bitter valve]

Trying to make a scope

[austere dock]

using scope.mdl nero? :p

[bitter valve]

Modifying the one from the failnaught

[austere dock]

i see :p

[bitter valve]

It works!

Just needs some tinkering

[austere dock]

the crosshair looks like ¯_(ツ)_/¯ :p

[bitter valve]

[half tendon]

Now imagine if we get a Serious Sam custom weapons pack done through Angelscript. 🤣

And they are all using Xbox models.

[austere dock]

i think someone did code Serious Sam weapons on angelscript using wootguy's weapon_custom, Kezaiv i believe? he's the one who create that one part that inspired from Serious Sam: TSE The Pit chapter for Ragemap2023b and yeah tons of Serious Sam weapons except the mdl is LD Reanimation Sven Coop

[bitter valve]

Aperture started doing Serious Sam weapons, but didn't get very far

[austere dock]

that's quite sad to hear 😐 actually what happened to him, nero? if you know. and also, you've been gone for a temporary while too after you done some of the cso weapons for misfire. thought you stopped, thankfully you come back and deliver more masterpiece to us here

[bitter valve]

Dunno, he just lost interest I think.
Yeah I had to take a 5 year long hiatus for health reasons

[austere dock]

i see. too bad. but hey, we got you here right now, thats already great, especially code for CSO weapons is not easy tho. glad you come back and i hope you are healthy as usual too :ayaya:

[half tendon]

The BuyMenu stuff in regards to ammo stuff doesn't really fix things. Even with it, the max ammo for the CSO weapons can affect the vanilla weapons.

[austere dock]

you have to edit CSOW_MAX_AMMO value so it wont affect

but if KernCore CS16 case, you can edit the ShouldUseCustomAmmo = true; to false;

so the weapon will follow default SC weapons' max value

as for my case, i tweak some of nero's weapons code to match with cs16 ammo base :ayaya:

[half tendon]

I just edited the max ammo for each weapon to either be similar to vanilla or increased ammo a little (60 for 357 ammo, 30 for sniper ammo).

[austere dock]

i do something like this :ayaya:

AT4 rocket use custom ammo to unless ShouldUseCustomAmmo = false; , it will use default SC's RPG rockets :p

[bitter valve]

Yeah weapon packs aren't designed to be combined, hence KernCore's warning about it, so you'll have to fiddle with it a lot to get it working

[austere dock]

yepyep :p

dont be like me, i always do something troubling like this :ayaya:

[austere dock]

oh and if you want nero's cso weapons ammo to be affected with cs16/cscz weapons only, you have to edit the void Register() part and look at the ammo type that the said gun use.

i.e:
g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( CSOW_NAME, "custom_weapons/cso", "50bmg", "", ammo_50bmg );

change the "50bmg" part to "cs16_5.56ap" if you want it to share ammo with cs16 m249 ammo

but you wont be able to buy the ammo in buymenu since it didn't register in buymenu :ayaya: i forgot how to enable "buy ammo" command for each of cso weapons, i used to succeed on make it work, but now idk how rn

[bitter valve]

lawl, the scope viewmodel for the tiger rifle uses the smd file for the crosshairs 4 times to make it solid enough 😂

$body "weapon" "ef_sfscore2"
$body "weapon" "ef_sfscore2"
$body "weapon" "ef_sfscore2"
$body "weapon" "ef_sfscore2"

Also; classic CSO typo

[austere dock]

aha now i got it to work by renaming the string return name :ayaya: i see, now i can just type "buy ammo" in chat to automatically buy the currently use weapon like this

[stuck crow]

nah, I think that in an average map there are not so many frags for the money, unless you count how many frags you can collect with something like Big Momma or Osprey. so. you can't buy all the custom guns (if, of course, the server owner has thought out the price of the weapons properly).

plus, the player will constantly die and consequently lose all the weapons

[bitter valve]

save weapons on death plugin

[stuck crow]

meh

useful for long and big maps, but sometimes imbalance

[half tendon]

I have that plugin, but I don't even know if it really even works.

Hmmm... maybe because that plugin is not "registered" from default_plugins.txt. I just based them depending on certain maps - this probably does nothing, or some error I didn't check. No error logs though.

[bitter valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/819007186268061756/1226952308081037422/20240408194911_1.jpg?ex=6626a361&is=66142e61&hm=a5bf318968c76cc924e292ccec0c10ed1617197cb07dbd8608111b0a7d9cca11& finally getting somewhere

blyat

[austere dock]

tiny Hole 😮

[bitter valve]

Yeah but now all I have to do is scale it to the desired size

[austere dock]

understandable :pp

[bitter valve]

Finally

Original

Finally I can move on to finishing the homing code

[austere dock]

whoaaa the zoom looks prettyyy i love the color

[atomic magnet]

you could turn the crosshair texture into a remappable one https://the303.org/tutorials/gold_remap.htm

[bitter valve]

Oooh, no way

[stuck crow]

cyka

[austere dock]

you did a good job neyami @bitter valve :ayaya: but i can't damage func_breakable with this 🤔 idk why but yeah, maybe its issue on my end, idk, i'll try to look into it more

[obsidian chasm]

func tanks cannot be damaged, func breakables yes

[austere dock]

func_breakable yes my bad :ayaya:

[obsidian chasm]

maybe the breakable has "explosives only" flag, and this rocket is not considered as explosive damage?

btw i see you are playing vger2 alpha, i want to tell you and people that some time ago someone found the vger 2 beta, that is more up to date

[austere dock]

no no, i can dmg it with bullet, but i shoot like 6 rockets but still it didnt destroy 🤔

[austere dock]

oho i see, i'll look into it, thanks :ayaya:

[austere dock]

turns out its just my skill issue on my end, so no worries @bitter valve , the weapon apparently working fine :ayaya:

[bitter valve]

bahahaha

[austere dock]

aYOO HAHAHA

[austere dock]

what we see:

[austere dock]

How actually works:

[bitter valve]

I use remapS for the sven hands, and I just used the same name for the scope which apparently was a mistake

[austere dock]

www

[half tendon]

Whoa, where is it? I want to see it as well.

[scenic zealot]

Don't use Same Remap alias OR else will Get Texture overriden

[austere dock]

can check vger2 - the lost sequel in google :ayaya:

[obsidian chasm]

Scmapdb

[bitter valve]

My next try at making the rockets homing sometimes causes it to fly around the target

I THINK I GOT IT

[bitter valve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbaIVvY7xvs
LOOK HOW BEUALTUFILUUL IT TURNS

33 lines of code for the proper result, vs. 71 lines for a shitty result what the hell

[austere dock]

ayyy using Hornetgun's homing code nero? :p

[bitter valve]

Yep yep

I ain't got no idea how to do the thing I want

Actually, it's the Hornet's code 🤓

[austere dock]

smart newo owo

[austere dock]

😭

[bitter valve]

https://youtu.be/7DhqGnh572c
Thanks Outerbeast for the suggestion

It was gonna be a quick weapon, buuuuut they had to make the rocket be homing if anything is in your view 😂

[cerulean wind]

so... Im trying to setup a private server so that way I can twitch stream my games. I tried adding the insurgency weapon mod and I also have the scxpm 17 mod loaded

I sadly could not find a more updated version of scxpm that worked

but!
the insurgency mod is not functional. do I need to install it client side too?

[bitter valve]

I may be drunk but im ptetty sute this cgoes in https://discord.com/channels/170051548284583937/1047554226194227340

[stuck crow]

me too want to have a drink

[stuck crow]

are you sure you installed and followed the instructions correctly?

btw, scripts only server side.

oh, ur questions have already been answered by KernCore, didn't see that

[austere dock]

@bitter valve sorry this might be random but, i tried to code the weapon_m2.as to be able to damage Garg by tweaking the the CBaseCSOWeapon script from DMG_BULLET to DMG_BLAST. It worked but, not only M2 be able to dmg Garg, but AUGEX too. So i was kinda wondering how to make m2 only to be able to dmg Garg, just like plasmagun case? Plasmagun case i know how it works since it use g_WeaponFuncs.RadiusDamage code.

[half tendon]

Shouldn't the M95 Barrett also be able to damage Gargantuas due to its Anti-Materiel role?

[atomic magnet]

it depends, m2 brownings fire the same caliber and don't damage it

now if Nero makes it do explosive dmg then it should be able to

[half tendon]

Ported the M60E4, but the model I used is from an M249 skin on Gamebanana, yet the model itself is from CSO. No remappable hands, nor CSO Male nor Female hands.

[main mason]

Now that is a sick looking skin

[bitter valve]

Aight Imma add a flag for that, CSOF_ARMORPEN or something

[austere dock]

aye thanks nero :ayaya: you're the best

[half tendon]

Apparently, the M60E4 that I kind of ported to Sven Co-op has an issue where the muzzleflash appears at the "center" of the player using it instead of coming from the weapon's barrel. It only happens in Thirdperson, and possibly if other players see someone using this. Seems to also be an issue as well with CZ's M60.

[bitter valve]

Yeah you gotta edit the attachments in the p_model

If it only has one attachment for the flash at 0, then you gotta copy paste that line twice and increase that number

Either that or change the number to 2, not sure if that works though

I have to do that for every cso weapon

[bitter valve]

eg:

// 1 attachment(s)
$attachment 0 "flash" 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000

Should be

$attachment 0 "flash" 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
$attachment 1 "flash" 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
$attachment 2 "flash" 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000

It might work without the last line, but I'm pretty sure I've tested this before and 3 lines work the best

[half tendon]

I don't think I'll be able to do this. It requires some compiling, right? I don't think the Asset Manager/Model Editor is capable of this.

[austere dock]

MilkShape3D be able to. You can edit its qc file and compile it and bam it worked.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=712848264 GMod port of CSO is truly insane. But it's kinda understandable since it's Source Engine, not GoldSource.

[bitter valve]

mdldec.exe p_model.mdl
edit .qc
smdl.exe p_model.qc
easy peasy

[scenic zealot]

https://gamebanana.com/mods/491563

[bitter valve]

Sex

If only it would work as well without metamod

phew, fucking finally done with at4cs

[bitter valve]

Added AT4-CS

[bitter valve]

It probably works

[bitter valve]

oh right, the flag thingy

[bitter valve]

[bitter valve]

doneski

[main mason]

OFFTOPIC: How do you declare the npc status?

[bitter valve]

que?

[main mason]

It says Status: Well Fed

[bitter valve]

oic

g_EntityFuncs.DispatchKeyValue( pEntity.edict(), "displayname", "Test Subject " + m_iTestSubject + "\nStatus: Well Fed" );

\n ftw

[main mason]

Many thanks!

[austere dock]

Yayyy thanks nero :ayaya: owo

[half tendon]

AT4-EX has ERROR as its sprite icon.

Updated version DOES NOT include 640hud66.spr file.

[woven grove]

Hello, I would like to add these weapons to the server. How could I do it, if you could help me please

[austere dock]

https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons

1. Install this and extract it into svencoop_addon folder
2. Open your default_plugins.txt file in svencoop folder and write this:

    {
     "name" "Counter Strike Online Weapons"
     "script" "../plugins/custom_weapons-cso"
     "concommandns" "cso"
    }

3. Open any map in your preference, and you can spawn cso weapons using console command or using AFBase.

BuyMenu case however, is a different method and you have to register in a different script.

[stuck crow]

I want to add that Ecco is the easiest way to make your own BuyMenu (you don't need to write your own code for adding items, at least), but the plugin itself is hastily made and buggy in some places

[cloud quest]

We need the crossbow back so i can get some fishy to eat.

[bitter valve]

oh yeah

[austere dock]

void Register() { g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_crossbow::ShootBolt", "ShootBolt" ); g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_crossbow::weapon_csocrossbow", CSOW_NAME ); g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_crossbow::ammo_csocrossbow", GetAmmoName() ); g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( CSOW_NAME, "custom_weapons/cso", "cso_bolts", "", GetAmmoName() ); }

// namespace cso_crossbow END :ayaya:

[bitter valve]

Added Benelli M3

[austere dock]

ohoho incoming m1887 :p

[bitter valve]

scientist/perhaps.wav

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9f2aC1fSUU
old video

[austere dock]

i like the fact misfire still keep this in their buymenu these days. not only that, kinda wonder if they have the old version of your ethereal and petrol boomer too 🤔

[bitter valve]

nah I never finished those

Until now

[austere dock]

oh and also, is the old buymenu code is originally from you nero?

[bitter valve]

nah that's zode

[austere dock]

ohhh i see, i like how your buymenu has newbie info when you run the buymenu on certain maps

like telling the new player how to buy weapons etc and commands

[bitter valve]

That's probably from the advert plugin

[austere dock]

i seeeee

[austere dock]

oh yeah i forgot, it's originally from Solokiller if i'm not wrong eh... or the wallet system one if i'm not wrong

[bitter valve]

Default: m1887
Expert: m1887_6
Master: m1887_8
Gold: m1887g
Christmas: m1887xmas
Maverick: m1887craft
10th Anniversary: m1887gs
Elegant: y19s2m1887

So many versions

[austere dock]

if the other custom skins are too much, you can just use default one, that is already alright nero :p

[bitter valve]

wait what

weapon_m1887.txt
zoom 640 ch_sniper 0 0 256 256 zoom_autoaim 640 ch_sniper 0 0 256 256

It doesn't even have a scope

Silly Nexon

[austere dock]

LOL

already have this in custom_weapons/cso/ folder 🤔 misfire file ig 🤷

[austere dock]

i think nexon just copy paste the sprite script from the previous weapon they just created, and just tweak a little bit and leave that one there lol, talk about lazy xD

[bitter valve]

Yeah Aperture did that one

[austere dock]

i.. use kerncore's m3 as a base for m1887. it works but, i still feel like i use m3 since i know i use m3 as its base.

you know the feeling like you create an AK47 from MP5 base, you use it, despite tweaking the damage etc, you still feel like you use MP5 cus you know you just tweak the existing weapon code and recreate it as a new one, not creating it from scratch

and i feel like shit 😭

[bitter valve]

ikr

But that's the best and easiest way of doing it

having a base and changing the necessary things

Why keep reinventing the wheel?

[austere dock]

correct tho

[austere dock]

yepyep

[bitter valve]

Pretty much all custom weapons, at least the ones I've made, are copies of weapon_hlmp5.as from the svencoop team

[austere dock]

is this one of your work too nero?

because the scripting style is similar to yours

[bitter valve]

nah

[austere dock]

i use this as a base to create CSO M134, though the PrimaryAttack is quite glitchy since FireBullets command originally for this code consume only ammo, not the clip, so when i try to code it to consume the clip, once the weapon clip reach 0, it become infinity and continuously firing lol

[austere dock]

i see 🤔

[bitter valve]

Haven't done the vanilla M134 yet

The hero version is awesome for now

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAPPP

[austere dock]

if (iSpinSpeed == SPIN_STOP) { self.m_flNextPrimaryAttack = WeaponTimeBase() + 0.51f; iSpinSpeed = SPIN_SLOW; g_SoundSystem.EmitSound( m_pPlayer.edict(), CHAN_WEAPON, M134_SOUND_SPIN_UP, 1.0f, ATTN_NORM ); return; }

[austere dock]

yeeee my ear busted after i use it in nintai_subway :ayaya:

[bitter valve]

oh right, I forgot to check the p_model for the M3

This is the first time I've had to fix the UV map on a viewmodel

[austere dock]

beeg lever gun

[bitter valve]

No sven hands for thissun

[austere dock]

WHAT THE F

[bitter valve]

Added Winchester M1887

41 done, yay

Might as well do the handgun version while I'm at it

[golden sparrow]

oh man, I remember when I tried to make a classic cso weapon pack for sc 2 years ago

I even have this

[bitter valve]

ditto

[golden sparrow]

ooh!

[bitter valve]

The hero hands are pretty sexy

[golden sparrow]

yoo they looks awesome

[austere dock]

yeah looks sexy

nero should port one cso campaign and one of the player will be selected as Hero to kill cso zombies npc :ayaya:

nah jk thats a stupid suggestion, just do the things at your own pace nero :ayaya:

[cloud quest]

Well are you fancy in doing this for all cso weapons? Like someone who did it in garry's mod
https://youtu.be/jP8_io4DHgk?feature=shared

[cloud quest]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9ks2nfHZ7xY

[austere dock]

nero seems very determined on this project ngl

[austere dock]

with this much, it's going to take like 3 or 4 years for nero to finish honestly. not to mention all those unique magical type of weapons in the end of this video. with how those guns worked, I believe nero's CBaseCSOWeapon script is going to end up more than 1000 lines. I'd say, i'll just let nero do this weapon project at his own pace, if he could done all, then i'm more than happy

But with how Svengine limitation and resources issues, having half of these weapons are already nice :ayaya:

All total CSO weapons in that video compilation is 381 (melee unincluded). Damn. yeah thats a lot.

[cloud quest]

Perhap he should try to separate each weapons individually with different folders ( for example cso_part1, part2 or 3.... )

[austere dock]

Suggested that before for nero, different registering file. for example:

custom_weapons-cso1.as
custom_weapons-cso2.as
custom_weapons-cso3.as
custom_weapons-cso4.as

just to ensure how much weapons nero would make so far. Since with the current amounts, the server would still be able to run. Even in my case too I combined nero's cso weapons with KernCore's CS 1.6 weapons into one BuyMenu. And it pretty much worked on my end.

[woven grove]

thanks

[bitter valve]

Maybe after 50 or 100

[bitter valve]

Added Winchester M1887 Maverick

I should probably start sorting the scripts into sub-folders based on type at some point

#2562541887_gcopyright(c)[2009]nexon&valvecorp_allrightsres.bmp
m1887GCopyright(C)[2009]NEXON&ValveCorp_AllRightsReserved.BMP
These filenames

[austere dock]

a lot :ayaya:

[bitter valve]

Added 5 m1887 skins

[bitter valve]

Maybe I should start adding the hero hands too

[austere dock]

ideally for Hero Weapons (SVDEX, Dual Deagles, Quad Barrels, M134 Hero)

[bitter valve]

[austere dock]

Holy fucking shit, it looks badass as fuck !

[bitter valve]

https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/blob/main/models/custom_weapons/cso/v_m134hero.mdl
https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/blob/main/models/custom_weapons/cso/v_qbarrel.mdl

[austere dock]

man, you always post a good stuff when i'm about to go to sleep 😌

[austere dock]

Doomguy approved 👆🏻

[bitter valve]

Screw it, another shotgun
I had it half-finished anyway

[austere dock]

isnt this the one where the mag went yeet for reload anim?

[bitter valve]

yeh

[austere dock]

the mag YEET funniest shit i ever seen from nexon

[bitter valve]

1% chance to insta-kill anything

[austere dock]

HAHAHA

[scenic zealot]

even better with Metal pipe sound for Clipout SK11

[austere dock]

nero i think you should pin your github link since my chat kinda flooded this thread so, its gonna be hard for people to scroll and grab your plugins (its entirely my fault since i'm being way too chatty here in this thread i'm sorry)

[bitter valve]

https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons

Only admuns can pin though

[austere dock]

but arent you the OP/admin of this thread ?

[bitter valve]

Yeah but it still requires a special permission

[austere dock]

i see

[austere dock]

yesss thanks @atomic magnet

[bitter valve]

Yeah I don't understand why Discord won't just put a simple button "Jump to top of thread" smh
Even on PC you still have to scroll, wait for things to load, scroll, wait, scroll, wait smdh

[austere dock]

as for me, i save your link and also sometimes got the link in one of my friend's chat since i spread the link of your plugins to my friends too

[bitter valve]

self.pev.owner.vars.owner.vars.owner.vars.owner.vars.owner.vars;

[austere dock]

[bitter valve]

https://youtu.be/BYXfCY4s3Lk?si=SR7FJTZdxSEK5cEd

[austere dock]

YEET DRUM MAG RELEASED

oh wait

its still in testing phase

i don't even know where to go so... yeah lets just farm money and XP with M2

[bitter valve]

What map is that?

[austere dock]

http://scmapdb.wikidot.com/map:player-sanctuary

[bitter valve]

enum csow_e
{
    ANIM_IDLE = 0,
    ANIM_SHOOT1,
    ANIM_SHOOT2,
    ANIM_RELOAD1,
    ANIM_DRAW,
    ANIM_RELOAD_YEET
};

[austere dock]

HAHAHAHAH

[bitter valve]

Added SKULL-11

[austere dock]

Yay yeet mag shotgun released !

[obsidian chasm]

there are so many cso weapons its insane, idk which ones would be cool to port or do you have plans on which ones to make next?

[austere dock]

once you're done with cso crossbow can you upload this skin as well? this one looks so good

[bitter valve]

I have a list and I mostly go with what I feel like, but suggestions are welcome

[graceful cedar]

is it possible register the weapons with the ins2 buy menu

[austere dock]

yes

[graceful cedar]

how do yuo do it

[austere dock]

but be sure to change the iSlot and iPosition value since it might conflict with the INS2 weapons

[austere dock]

download the code and paste em in ins2 folder, put em in folders following the weapon type category, then register it in ins2_register.as

[graceful cedar]

okay

[austere dock]

it is a complicated procedure tho

i just know how to do em cus i always fiddling stuff that i shouldnt

[graceful cedar]

do you know anything about iPosition?

[austere dock]

welp, just change the value to below 10 or 11

like 17 or 18

i always do that

[bitter valve]

This'll be the first time I'm releasing a "modded" weapon before the original version

SKULL-11 is based on usas12

Speaking of which; rename events\cso\muzzle_skull11_1.txt and muzzle_skull11_2.txt
to muzzle_usas12_1.txt and muzzle_usas12_2.txt

[bitter valve]

Shotguns just pulled ahead to 8!
Needs more machine guns and smgs

Added Daewoo USAS-12

[half tendon]

Daewoo K3 soonish? 🤔

[digital night]

Any plan to add hev arms for these?

[obsidian chasm]

D: goddamn hands

maybe a quick solution would be a really bad reskin for the cso hands haha

its very bad

[digital night]

https://tenor.com/view/the-wizard-lucas-the-wizard-lucas-power-glove-nes-power-glove-power-glove-nintendo-gif-15600319450389769977

[half tendon]

Cursed.

[unreal cove]

DNIO hands are pretty solid, why not use them

[bitter valve]

They're awesome, but sometimes I get too many errors when compiling

If there are only 2 errors I can usually fix it, but when there are 6 or 8

The hands usually don't work on older weapons

[obsidian chasm]

not possible, the rigs are different (wrong bone order or names, sometimes both)

probably Nexon does this on purpose to stop people from modding or porting

(or are idiots)

[obsidian chasm]

Nero, the weapons have 3 hand subgroups. Did you code stuff to use the last group? or is it the game's engine rendering the last hand subgroup on its own?

[obsidian chasm]

the old models use counter strike bones

i will send you the other models I added hands to because the post was lost in this chat

and the usas

[bitter valve]

The weapons that have 3 groups have the tertiary attack button to switch between hands, it's far from perfect but

Maybe I should just separate them, one hand model per model

Like I do with the skins

v_weapon_male
v_weapon_female
v_weapon_sven

Would probably be better

[obsidian chasm]

nah, too much work, or just choose one hand, i'd say only sven hands

[stuck crow]

yep, there's sense

I mean, CoF weapon plugin doesn't have Simon's hands even

[atomic magnet]

a good move to avoid problems with ruMpel

[stuck crow]

at least they fit perfectly to the game (except some toctical stuff like aiming)

[formal sonnet]

hello

[obsidian chasm]

@bitter valve i wanted to use some weapons for my current map and when I used resguy I found that it detects many wrong file paths.

resguy sometimes doesnt read scripts well but since I made a copy of your scripts to a test map folder I checked them manually and found out it is true there are some typos or missing files that may cause problems

this is what resguy gives me, its not many

progressbar is just a typo with missing "sprites/" for example, the rest are the same I think. But the sounds are truly missing

[bitter valve]

progressbar.spr is present

the ricochet sounds aren't really needed but I'll upload them

floating_damage.mdl isn't needed atm

weapon_skull.as doesn't exist (it's weapon_skull11 or skull2)

the line in weapon_savery.txt containing scope_circle can be removed (it's a tga and I forgot to remove that line )

[obsidian chasm]

ah yes my bad i must have written skull without a number for the test haha

progressbar.spr is present yes, but the line in the code is missing the sprites folder haha thats why it doesnt find it according to resguy. But I havent tested if it works

[bitter valve]

Yeah that's because m_hudParamsCooldown.spritename reads from the sprites folder already, so if I put sprites in the variable it would look for it in sprites/sprites

[obsidian chasm]

ah yes thats the problem with resguy, if you make a reference like that it screws up, if I could resguy should have an exception for script files, so the initial folder is ignored (sprites) in this case, and is assumed .spr starts at that

[austere dock]

@bitter valve if you dont mind after working on the crossbow, can you do this too? hk121ex (HK121 Custom), LMG with Grenade Launcher alt attack i believe

them grenade drum mag tho

[obsidian chasm]

hey i've been trying to add the awp and the problem is its not showing up on the hud (the number 7 appears but there is nothing there)

[austere dock]

something wrong with the slot index i believe, you can try alter it

[obsidian chasm]

yes mmm where would that be

[austere dock]

in csocommon.as if you meant the awp of nero's script

[graceful cedar]

cso weapons r insane

[obsidian chasm]

ahhh

was looking in the wrong code

[graceful cedar]

this thing anime af!!

[austere dock]

all the position and index are in csocommon so yea, just look into it if you want to alter the position

[obsidian chasm]

hmmm

[austere dock]

yea been putting this in my buymenu, its very good along with that chainsaw ripper

nero did a great job on adapting the weapon mechanic similar to cso

[obsidian chasm]

never did this before so i dont know how to read the slot positions

[austere dock]

usually 0 means slot 1, and 1 is slot 2 and upwards

[obsidian chasm]

and position is?

[austere dock]

Position is for the weapon bucket

in one slot

ya know

like mp5, shotgun and crossbow in one slot

[obsidian chasm]

like slot 0 position 1 would be medkit?

[austere dock]

yeah

0 until 3 positions are reserved for the sven/engine weapons code

4 until downwards are reserved for extra weapons

[obsidian chasm]

ah so position 0 slot 0 is medkit

[austere dock]

usually in my case i will put my custom buymenu weapons on position 10 until downwards so it wont conflict with the map script weapons certain map ran

[austere dock]

i believe its crowbar but yea around that

[obsidian chasm]

there are only 4 default position 0-4

0-3

[austere dock]

actually, 0-3 cus the code said 0 is sign as position 1

[obsidian chasm]

ah there we go

slots are the dropdown menus 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 in that order

position goes from 0 to 3

inside each slot

[austere dock]

you can add more slots until 9 if im not wrong

KernCore's INS2 weapons slots are until 9

[obsidian chasm]

so i added slot 7 position 4

[austere dock]

yeah that one you could try look into if the weapons slot appear

if you added iSlot = 7 and iPosition = 4... means on the 8th slot and 5th position i believe? oh wait i forgot, nero's weapon iPosition and iSlot has minus 1 (-1) in front of it to evade confusion. yeah you're right.

[obsidian chasm]

it works, ultra custom stuff now 😄 my ports will be better now with custom guns

[bitter valve]

Normally yes, but I put -1 in the weapon scripts so that the number you enter in csocommon is the correct number (1 = slot/position 1)

[austere dock]

Yep i saw them gj nero

[austere dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXfCY4s3Lk I just watched this. WHAT THE FUCK THE MAG YEETED GIBBED THE FUCKING ZOMBIE, FOR REAL @bitter valve ?! AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

[half tendon]

Even a Frag Grenade that you throw can gib dead corpses. XD

[austere dock]

fr i was shocked and laughing my ass off ngl

[bitter valve]

Of course

I was gonna add the Team Fortress 2 crit sound and maybe base the damage on how many rounds there are left in the mag, but I forgor

I also had it gib the player who launched it, but decided against that

[austere dock]

ngl its funny as fuck. its really original lmao. Best keep it that way, i like it

[scenic zealot]

with Metal pipe hitting sound

[bitter valve]

I'm currently working on porting Quake 2 NPC models to sven btw

[austere dock]

Ahh i see, no wonder been quite Hiatus. it's alright nero, we can wait. Work on your own pace

[bitter valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/819007186268061756/1233787330502856715/withLOOP.mp4?ex=662f063e&is=662db4be&hm=3146179980c25562aed34e20bfe2b5e0f3ef7c12c1f439573e45e4717d9f019e&

[austere dock]

Ayo... remind me of Biomechanoid from Serious Sam franchise.

Guess they took the inspiration from this npc

[half tendon]

Serious Sam Weapons + NPCs, Arase. XD

If there's one weapon I'd want to work on the Serious Sam Weapons, it would be the Ghostbuster. I want to add my spin that I incorporated on my project.

[stuck crow]

someday I want to start a porting weapons from Kingpin: Life of Crime to SC

cuz why not?

[austere dock]

Should've do XL2 Laser Gun and Rocket Launcher tho. And also, maybe Minigun and SBC Cannon.

[scenic zealot]

$0a means: Fullbright and Studio_NF_Alpha were unused?

[bitter valve]

owo what's this?

[austere dock]

AHA HE COME BACK

[half tendon]

Crossbow detected

[bitter valve]

proper-ish~ scope

The ammo model took longer than I'm willing to admit

[bitter valve]

Added Crossbow

[stuck crow]

I need to update the plugin again

[bitter valve]

https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/tree/main/models/custom_weapons/cso/skins/crossbow

[stuck crow]

well, this is the best what I can do with this sorta of model

(not really the best, I'm just tired at the moment)

[bitter valve]

The sven hands might work with the crossbowex model

nope

[stuck crow]

well, I'm just quoting mr. "Buy Skyrim"

it just works

at least the arms don't look like they were broken by gargantua's ass

especially while the reload anim

[obsidian chasm]

I have tried adding the svd, but the sprites are not precaching, the crosshairs dont show up and the hud selector is all fucked up.
This didnt happen with all the other weapons I used (awp, m134hero, usas12), and the slot position must not be the problem because I can move the weapon to other slots and when the slot was the problem with the awp it simply didn't show up

I cant find whats wrong with the code since it looks fine to me at least

I compared it to the other guns and everything is in place

including the weapon_svd.txt file that specifies the sprites and positions mmm

[stuck crow]

has this always been or since the last update? it works fine for me

[obsidian chasm]

ah but you are using the buy menu or adding the weapon in your own script, because i'm doing the latter

anyway i gave up, i picked another weapon to use as a base and that one worked

[stuck crow]

nah, Ecco's one made on a crank and just uses "give weapon_putaname" command for a price

[stuck crow]

so I didn't add in any script or "buy menu" plugin.

"it just works" Todd Howard face

[obsidian chasm]

i dont know, maybe it was conflicting with something else. Anyway, i don't know how you get everything to work yourself because weapons from slots 8+ do not show up in hud, my hud shows only up to 7 slots

[stuck crow]

btw, @bitter valve, do you need this?

[bitter valve]

Yes please

[stuck crow]

here you go

[stuck crow]

just tested new crossbow on my clone

poor me, he's dying for nothing

[digital night]

did somebody say garg ass?

https://tenor.com/view/flirty-eyes-eyebrows-gif-14398612

so we are getting sven arms?

[stuck crow]

I'd like to rig sven arms to all guns that doesn't have this, but this CSO bones fiddling is a pain in my ass

I need more energy for this, and less laziness

[obsidian chasm]

I already sent the weapons I had rigged, i don't know if he ended up using them or not

the files are up there somewhere

its a pain to rig them because of the default position as well as different bones

you maybe can check them out and some of the hands may be useful. Because sometimes some weapons hands are the same rig

[stuck crow]

well, I downloaded it a long time ago, but thanks anyway

[stuck crow]

YAY

FINALLY

finally made a rig of one of my favorite guns

I just figured out how to make it as easy as possible to make a rig of almost any model in blender 🙂

I also rigged sven hands to thompson

btw, why is there no info on github about thompson?

[bitter valve]

Oh, I forgor

[stuck crow]

I accidentally found a bug - when you use M2 in a crouch position (secondary fire I mean), after restarting the map you get stuck in this position (you can move, but only in crouch)

[bitter valve]

Yeah you have to type -duck in the console

I tried to fix it but it happens too randomly

[stuck crow]

I see

[obsidian chasm]

oh nice, never used blender, do you think its easy enough to have all the guns rigged?

[stuck crow]

I checked some of the models, some guns still need some work, but it's still quite easy

[obsidian chasm]

my awp rig is a bit awful

[stuck crow]

only SVDs, some melee weapons and, as I understand it, some vanilla guns are left

[obsidian chasm]

btw the same type of weapons usually have the same rig. For example the default cs weapons mostly share the same

[obsidian chasm]

really? i thought there were a lot left, or are you talking about the rigs you've made so far?

[stuck crow]

I mean with your works and that's already rigged by Nero

[obsidian chasm]

oh nice

[stuck crow]

when I'll done with that, I'll share .rar file with my and Garompa's stuff

I hope Nero will update the .AS files for in-game hands switch, and will implement all this work that we've done 🙂

[bitter valve]

Yeah just put it here and ping and I'll get on it when I can

[austere dock]

@bitter valve very beautiful, thanks nero 👌🏻

[stuck crow]

it's the best what I can do with svdex at the moment

I don't like how left hand holds a gl

and remind for me:
SAVE. FUCKING. BACKUPS.

cuz it's third or fourth attempt to rig this shit

and when I tried to fix hands, it messed up.

so yeah, it's the best.

[bitter valve]

Where is the hand supposed to go though?

[stuck crow]

CSO hand: holds gun
Sven hand: holds air

I'm guess this time it's not going to be without morph stuff, urgh

[bitter valve]

ah

[stuck crow]

now it looks normal at least

[atomic magnet]

topology issue

[stuck crow]

just noticed that

[obsidian chasm]

Mmm looks like the problem is the sven hand may be smaller?

That sometimes happened to me. I took HLAM and resized only the mesh so i could see in real time how much to resize it. I used 1.01 value to resize slowly and counted the clicks. Then did the same in the 3d program with the smd

But when lazy i just resized. Saved it with hlam as a new model, decompiled that and used the hands from it in the original model hahah

[stuck crow]

well, I just scale it by eye

actually, it was much worse until I started editing it myself

cuz as you say it was smaller

[obsidian chasm]

the last method is very fast because you can see it change instantly and adjust it

the only problem is the gun will also increase in size so you must just look that the hands are no longer stretched

[stuck crow]

well, this topology is still better...

THAN THIS

alright, that's the best one

I guess

[stuck crow]

anyway thanks for this tip, that helped me a lot. 🙂

[stuck crow]

I actually do the same with crossbow and thompson, and it looks at least normal now

but now I have a question - why the fuck do Nexon use not only different bones, but also different sizes of their hand models? do they really want to mess around so no one can steal or modify their models or what?

[obsidian chasm]

at this point i doubt it, they must be just unorganized idiots

i mean it would take a lot less work to just have the same bones for everything

and sizes

[bitter valve]

I have arrived at the same conclusion; Nexon be derpy

[stuck crow]

"don't touch, it works" method

[half tendon]

I am certain it's the same vibe with the old Half-Life hand models too.

MP5 hands are different to Shotgun arms and Crossbow arms and so on and so forth.

[obsidian chasm]

yes but old half life models were the first ones to ever exist, made by valve in a rushed development. Many got cut and changed over short times, so its understandable because of all that

But for example counter strike uses all the same size bones and hands

the HD pack as well

and the guys from the INS2 pack too

Nexon being a massive company, shouldnt be so shitty, if some modders can do it so can they

[stuck crow]

it was difficult ||until I discovered that this weapon isn't mirrored||

btw, about East Asians swords...

nero pls 👉 👈

it's Hwando

[bitter valve]

Yeah most dual-wielded weapons don't need to be flipped

[bitter valve]

btw the first two animations called slash1 and slash2 on the Hwando are just the idle animation at twice the fps, classic Nexon

Apparently it doesn't have a highlighted selection sprite

[stuck crow]

done with thanatos and dragon claw
now working on SVD

[bitter valve]

sex

yay, the hands work

[digital night]

i just downloaded the pack. are the sven arms in the files or are they still being worked on? I see some of them use them and some dont so far

I noticed that a lot of the guns cap out at maximum of 90 ammo which seems pretty low compared to sven co-op standards

and the augex seems to be lacking any effects for muzzle fire

the at4ex is missing a sprite for the weapon

[austere dock]

you can alter the weapon max ammo value. Try to look into CSOW_MAX_AMMO line on each weapon's script file

[digital night]

thanks

i noticed that the augex is missing sound effects for reloading

[bitter valve]

Yeah I'm using the values on the wiki to set max ammo

[bitter valve]

nah they're in there
https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/blob/main/sound/custom_weapons/cso/augex_clipin1.wav
https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/blob/main/sound/custom_weapons/cso/augex_clipin2.wav
https://github.com/Neyami/CSO-Weapons/blob/main/sound/custom_weapons/cso/augex_clipin13wav

[austere dock]

yeah kinda weird. the sound works fine on my end.

try extract the pack again. if it still doesnt work, try re-install it again

[bitter valve]

The muzzleflash stuff too

[digital night]

ill try again, maybe my server skipped the download

the lego gun, doesnt take regular rocket ammo

[austere dock]

you can alter it in void Register() line

from m777shot to rockets

[digital night]

thanks

im just going down the list testing it, not trying to complain

[austere dock]

its aight, nero's fine with it

[bitter valve]

Can't fix things if I don't know it's broken

[digital night]

how do i remove the sprite that puts a ring around dropped weapons?

[austere dock]

btw it will affect your sven weapons ammo max too so yeah

[austere dock]

const bool bUseDroppedItemEffect = false;

in csocommon.as

from true; to false;

[digital night]

desperado seems to have infinite ammo not sure if thats intended

crossbow doesnt use bolts

[austere dock]

intended, nero adapted from original cso

[austere dock]

const bool USE_INFINITE_AMMO = false; //The original has infinite ammo

[austere dock]

like i said before, in void Register() , from csobolts to bolts for default HL crossbow bolt ammo type

[digital night]

thanks

ethereal doesnt take regular ammo

[bitter valve]

Yeah several weapons use custom ammo

[austere dock]

ether to uranium

[austere dock]

I honestly prefer it that way tbh nero

[bitter valve]

9mm 357 buckshot bolts 556 rockets uranium m40a1 sporeclip hand grenade satchel charge trip mine snarks argrenades shock charges hornets health

All vanilla ammo names

[austere dock]

just from my taste. I even alter the ammo type for some of your cso weapons to cs16 ammo type

[austere dock]

pinned this adminnnnnn

[digital night]

might be on my end but the m2 has a missing sprite in bottom right

[austere dock]

worked for me in my end tho

wait imma give you

its in the folder i believe

Idk how ecco plugin works, but usually on the usual Solokiller's BuyMenu one, you just have to register it and tweak the weapon's script file and add some ammo registeration in it, so you can type "buy ammo" and buy the current ammo weapon you're holding

thats why i dont have issue much if nero use custom ammo for the cso weapons

[stuck crow]

topology still sux, but at least it looks normal

[austere dock]

like this

[stuck crow]

i dunno what I can do with that shit T_T

[digital night]

im just loading in regular ammo using ecco, but not buying the weapons from ecco

plastma gun and quadshotgun is missing sprites too. again might be that the server didnt send them when i connected

[stuck crow]

that's the reason why I hate the bones like this

[digital night]

usas is missing reload sfx

again might be my server not sending it

[bitter valve]

Must be, the files are present and the scripts are telling the game to send them

[digital night]

so i was talking about the max ammo being low.. but just realized that the default max ammo for the m249 in sven is only 90.. but the gun holds 200...

that seems odd

so maybe the figures arent that far off

[austere dock]

alter the CSOW_MAX_AMMO for every weapon that use 556

augex, lightning ar1, aeolis

aug too

[digital night]

im just saying maybe they dont need changed because sven defaults are pretty low

so i went through all the weapons and thingfor me is that they dont have the right arm. but i imagine i can just replace the arm texture with some of the existing files that do have the sven arms. assuming at least one of them is mapped the same way

[austere dock]

you have to wait either nero, garompa or gordon9999 do the remapping for the skins.

for me i dont mind much if nero use default cso hands

[austere dock]

if you feel like its a pain to change all of it, just set every weapon script max ammo to 1000 like kerncore did with his pack. ez

[digital night]

i might do that

i also have insurgency weapons, i want to see what insurgency maxs are. looks like they are 1000

[austere dock]

i was planning to add BuyMenu.as for nero's cso weapons once he's done all of them

or maybe nah since the code is originally from KernCore. maybe nah ig i dont want to steal another people's hardwork

[digital night]

hm thats odd, so my server did send me the sfx for the augex but they dont seem to play in game

muzzleflash still wont work either

the reload sfx for it works in alt fire

also for some reason the bow has max ammo to 60 and the starting ammo to 6 but i assume since it doesnt have conventional reloading it gives you 60 at start

[digital night]

at the end of the plugin it mentions csoarrow multiple times. do i need to replace every instance of it or just one of the lines

void Register()
{
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::csoarrow", "csoarrow" );
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::ammo_csoarrows", "ammo_csoarrows" );
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::weapon_csobow", "weapon_csobow" );
g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "csoarrows", "", "ammo_csoarrows" );

i imagine just the last line

g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "csoarrows", "", "ammo_bolts" );

like this?

[austere dock]

{
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::csoarrow", "csoarrow" );
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::ammo_csoarrows", "ammo_csoarrows" );
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::weapon_csobow", "weapon_csobow" );
    g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "bolts", "", "ammo_csoarrows" );

^^if you want to use cso compound bow arrow as bolt ammo type

g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "bolts", "", "ammo_csoarrows" );

[austere dock]

should be like this

[digital night]

thanks

in the ethereal weapon I was trying to set its max capacity for ammo to 1000 but there is no entry for that. I spawned in some ammo and it caps out at 90. 90 is not listed in the script so how is it capping out at 90 ammo?

[austere dock]

i believe its in csoammo.as file in includes folder. check that one out too since nero connecting ammo type for that gun with it

look at MAXCARRY_ETHER and the other similar starting name for the maxcarry ammo too so you can alter it to your own liking

[digital night]

cool thanks, found it

the gunkata says it takes 44mag ammo. what do you think is a good replacement for that? 357?

[austere dock]

357 is alright, or 9mm. depends on your taste

if you wanna make it scarce type ammo, 357 would be the best choice

[stuck crow]

I've spent all day on this

[digital night]

looks good

i might have mentioned it but the m2 is missing the sprites, i checked and i have the sprites in the folder so maybe their name is wrong in files?

[austere dock]

nero code it in custom_weapons/cso code path as always. its weird if its wrong since it worked fine for me

[bitter valve]

For the love of bob, don't use notepad to edit script files
Use notepad++ instead

[digital night]

it works for most stuff but generally yeah

[austere dock]

be me, i use visual studio even though scripting is not my job

[bitter valve]

That works too, but npp starts faster

[digital night]

im not sure what i did but now i cant spawn in weapons. i dont think i changed anything that should have done that

[austere dock]

The plugin might crashed. Check console logs. Type developer 1 and as_reloadplugins

Try to see what the error console stating

Usually it will appear message like "ERROR: blablabla" in front of it

[austere dock]

Check weapon_csobow.as again

[digital night]

oh i see i have register line twice from pasting it

[austere dock]

Yeah, you can fix it

[austere dock]

Unexpected end of the file, try to check if there's } too, if not you might accidentally deleted the bracket. That one is important for closing off the code line for the namespace scripting

[digital night]

i fixed that issue but it still wont launch.

it says 1 plugin failed compilation

so its probably that one

[austere dock]

Wait.

[digital night]

ERROR: c:/users/there/desktop/sven co-op/steamcmd/sv/svencoop/scripts/custom_weapons/cso/weapon_csobow.as (497, 3) : Unexpected end of file
c:/users/there/desktop/sven co-op/steamcmd/sv/svencoop/scripts/custom_weapons/cso/weapon_csobow.as (2, 1) : While parsing namespace
ERROR: Plugin script compilation failed

its probably a missing bracket

[austere dock]

{
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::csoarrow", "csoarrow" );
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::ammo_csoarrows", "ammo_csoarrows" );
    g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::weapon_csobow", "weapon_csobow" );
    g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "bolts", "", "ammo_csoarrows" );

}

} //namespace cso_bow End :ayaya: 

Try this one.

[digital night]

}

void Register()
{
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::csoarrow", "csoarrow" );
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::ammo_csoarrows", "ammo_csoarrows" );
g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_bow::weapon_csobow", "weapon_csobow" );
g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_csobow", "custom_weapons/cso", "bolts", "", "ammo_csoarrows" );

} //namespace cso_bow END

/*
TODO
Make a proper ammo model?
*/

this is what i have

[austere dock]

Add another bracket under the final g_ItemRegistry line

[digital night]

oh i see it

[austere dock]

}

} //namespace cso_bow end

[digital night]

yeah i must have messed that up when pasting

its always the brackets that seem to break stuff

[austere dock]

two brackets. One to close the void code line. The other to close the entirity of the namespace

its always } and ;

man im not even a scripter, nero should be the one instruct you this, sorry for taking your job nero

[digital night]

ive added the augex reload sounds to my fastdl, and my server files. still wont play. so i assume its downloading but not precaching if that is possible

[austere dock]

void Precache() i believe nero did implement it in every of his weapon scripts. If not, the gun wont even respawn, not only that, your server will crash too and send you back to the main menu

Just like HL1 is with item_healthkit if theres no healthkit entity in that map

And as for sound, gun would spawn but when you wanna shoot, your server crash and send you back to the menu

[digital night]

also the awp, when it is reloading, the hand is going inside the view of the player and so their hand clips and you can see through it. its not really an issue but thought i would point it out for ocd sake

this only happens on one of the two reloading animations

[austere dock]

Is this when cocking animation or zooming?

[digital night]

its when it is cocking

[austere dock]

Then its not nero's fault. That case is nexon's problem, so maybe wait for the other rigger fix it if they willingly want to ig

[austere dock]

Actually it has something to do with void Spawn() code line, nero did some error there, instead of CSOW_DEFAULT_GIVE, he accidentally put CSOW_MAX_AMMO

[digital night]

some reason the blood hunter even though i set max ammo to 1000 and removed the line that makes it have infinite ammo it maxes out at 35 ammo

there is no line that mentions 35 maximum in any file i have seen

[stuck crow]

all I have left are the beam sword and the vanilla guns, so maybe I can try fix this shit

[austere dock]

Try check any other files. it must be missing somewhere else.

since i use vs code, i will just search "35" and try to see it some weapon script to identify it

[stuck crow]

oh, and volcano (I forgor about this)

[digital night]

i checked all the scripts

[digital night]

thanks, fixed it

[austere dock]

can i see the ItemInfo code line?

oh yeah i didnt register blood Hunter in my buymenu. Because my buymenu has already full combined with cs16 guns and the other custom i tweak myself

[digital night]

the iteminfo code line in blood hunter as?

[stuck crow]

how lovely

[digital night]

bool GetItemInfo( ItemInfo& out info )
{
info.iMaxAmmo1 = CSOW_MAX_AMMO;
info.iMaxClip = CSOW_MAX_CLIP;
info.iAmmo1Drop = CSOW_MAX_CLIP;
info.iSlot = cso::BLOODHUNTER_SLOT - 1;
info.iPosition = cso::BLOODHUNTER_POSITION - 1;
info.iWeight = cso::BLOODHUNTER_WEIGHT;

const bool CSOW_USE_MAGDROP = true; //Drop mag while reloading or not
const int CSOW_DEFAULT_GIVE = 30;
const int CSOW_MAX_CLIP = 30;
const int CSOW_MAX_AMMO = 1000;

[stuck crow]

Nexon: uses old as fuck m3 model with modern hands and even can't properly rig the hands
Turtle Rock: new m3, hands looks sick, absoultely everything is perfect

[digital night]

okay so the missing sprites for the crossbow fixed itself when i deleted all the ztmp files and then deleted all my downloads folder and rejoined my server

must be a quirk of the game

because the files were there

has anyone ever tried running model texture files through ai upscale or is the result not good?

[stuck crow]

it's still looks like ass

[digital night]

g_CustomEntityFuncs.RegisterCustomEntity( "cso_m134hero::weapon_m134hero", "weapon_m134hero" );
g_ItemRegistry.RegisterWeapon( "weapon_m134hero", "custom_weapons/cso", "762", "", "ammo_762mg" );

if( !g_CustomEntityFuncs.IsCustomEntity( "ammo_762mg" ) )

I tried to set the m134hero to use 762 but it not work.

is 762 ammo not called 762?

[stuck crow]

nah, it's called m40a1

wait

are you talking about m40a1 ammo or wha?

[digital night]

the m134hero takes a special kind of 762. i specified 762 but i guess 762 is m40a1

maybe now that we have cry of fear, insurgency, counter strike and cso weapons, maybe we create an ultimate weapons pack that combines all of them

with sven arms, in hd

bump the download time ot join my server up to 20 minutes

[stuck crow]

now we need more guns from other fps like UT, Quake III Arena

[digital night]

postal 2 pack pls

[stuck crow]

Kingpin Life Of Crime pack pls

Deus Ex pack pls

[digital night]

i dont know how this is coded but even though i have a ton of cry of fear and ins2 weapons in a custom buy menu for ecco none of the ipositions of the guns are overlapping

usually id have to manually find open slots

[stuck crow]

I've only had a conflict with AoMDC's MP5k in all this time.

[digital night]

const int CSOW_MAX_AMMO = 1000; //doesn't actually do anything since it uses the maxammo set by the buymenu plugin ¯_(ツ)_/¯

The mk3a1 says this. but as far as i know there is currently no buymenu plugin, so i imagine max ammo line will work

quadbarrel is missing a sprite in bottom right. not sure why

its sending all the files so there must be some quirk with sven

what sprite dictates the sprite for ammo icon?

[bitter valve]

check sprites\custom_weapons\cso\weapon_name.txt

[digital night]

also the animation for the usas12 the arm goes through the drum, im not going to be adding that weapon but thought i would point it out in case that is something anyone cares about

[digital night]

its in there

the server and client both have it

the files are there

4
weapon 640 custom_weapons/cso/640hud60 0 90 170 45
weapon_s 640 custom_weapons/cso/640hud60 0 135 170 45
ammo 640 custom_weapons/cs16/640hud7 0 72 24 24
crosshair 640 crosshairs 48 24 24 24

[bitter valve]

cs16?
That should be cso

It's an older weapon so I probably missed it

[digital night]

might have been that i already had that file from something else

so if i want to remove some of these from being precached/downloaded/registered.. so i just remove both entries for them in the custom weapons angelscript?

or do i only need to remove one of the entries

I just put // in front of them

also noticed you listed the m1887craft under pistol and not shotgun. i guess its subjective but it takes buckshot is apparently a modded version of the m1887 which is a shotgun

[digital night]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

can something be a handgun and a shotgun at the same time?

[bitter valve]

I use the categories from the wiki/game

[atomic magnet]

taurus judge

[digital night]

a lot of the weapons are cool but they have very inconsistent quality as far as textures go. not sure if it would be worth trying to upscale them. i imagine if one did that it wouldnt be a CSO weapons pack anymore. as they are they dont match the quality of cof and ins2. but about half of them looked good enough to match them.

[bitter valve]

The newer the weapon the higher quality

Newer as in release date in CSO

[digital night]

changing weapons is like traveling through time

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-my-god-omg-shocked-surprised-gif-15089848

[digital night]

thanks for adding these. had my eye on some of these since i saw that runethunder67 guy add them all to his buy menu and try to sell it lol. I added about half of them. Its all set up with 1000 max ammo, default ammo types and added them all to the ecco buy menu categories i set up. looks good. now i just need to replace the v models with sven hands and then replace all the arm textures with a grayscale set i made

im not sure if this is possible but would be cool if there were multiple colors of the beamsword. would probably require having multiple models though

i might go in and try to change it to red, but i assume that already exists somewhere in cso files

[bitter valve]

Yeah weapon skins require separate models

[digital night]

i asked before and hope its not an issue to ask but i think you are the one who made the kick plugin. is it possible to add that as a weapon that appears on the weapon wheel/slots since it seems to overlap with v_actions

unrelated issue but it could be combined with this. It seems to lack an iposition.

[bitter valve]

Yeah I've considered it, it's on the todo-list

[digital night]

are you planning a brutal half life pack?

[bitter valve]

I looked into but but nah not atm, too many projects already

Maybe a scientist with limbs that can be shot off

[digital night]

mikk made a plugin that adds a pool of blood but it can make floating pools of blood which doesnt look that great. and i use an old amxx plugin that adds more gore and blood spray.

so some things are possible

[bitter valve]

Which amxx plugin is that?

[digital night]

amx_gore_ultimate.amxx

its customizable

for some reason when you enable this it interferes with v_actions in the cry of fear weapons and makes v_actions not work. Changing the iposition of v_actions did not seem to help.

will you be posting the sven handed versions on github somewhere?

@obsidian chasm in the zip file you posted i think you meant to put skull11 instead of balrog11

the m950 in those files contains several skins. how do you specify which skin will load in game?

[austere dock]

based on the code of the m950 script you run. If you want to run the skin, you can alter the destination like "custom_weapons/cso/skins/m950/v_m950aaa.mdl"; instead of custom_weapons/cso/v_m950.mdl";

[digital night]

but the file itself contains all 3 of them?

[austere dock]

wym?

the skin still can be run on default weapon_m950.as script, you just alter the view_model destination code

[digital night]

ive never seen that ability before

i assumed you could only have one embedded in a model

ill just wait until all of them have sven arms to worry about it

[austere dock]

I did that with cso crossbow here.

[austere dock]

You mean the hand skin or the weapon skin?

if hands, its g_CSOhands smth like that.

[digital night]

hands

[austere dock]

then you have to look into g_CSOWhands smth like that. I forgot. I just woke up.

[digital night]

what do you replace it with

[austere dock]

There are sven hands, and cso girl hand. You can refer the name in includes/csoenums.as as nero always listed down enums there

[austere dock]

nero used to use Zode's old buymenu plugin (with no wallet system), thus why he comments that. Usually it follows the buymenu base ammo, just like how my buymenu does.

[digital night]

const array<string> g_arrsMaleModels =
{
"player",

is this it?

[austere dock]

no, not that one

[digital night]

enum csowhands_e
{
HANDS_MALE = 0,
HANDS_FEMALE,
HANDS_SVENCOOP

found it

so do i edit this file or edit every script for every weapon?

[austere dock]

Edit every script for every weapon

Dont edit that file

Your plugin will crash again

But not all cso weapons nero did now have the alternate hands skin, so you have to be careful.

[bitter valve]

I'll probably split the models into one set of hands per v_model and put them in the skins directory, switching hands is just an experimental thing

[austere dock]

i actually the type who dont really mind much about the hand skins. maybe because i've been playing counter strike 1.6 modded server (zombie plague 4.3 etc back in 2012ish) and their custom weapons hands from amxx always inconsistent, thus making me feel nostalgic/adapted with it. but not with people with OCD though. but i can pretty much understand that.

[digital night]

i went through the files that garompa provided and the ones that are currently in the files by nero. as far as i can tell its still missing sven hands for the crossbow, dragonclaw, dualwaki, beamsword and thatanos

[austere dock]

i'd say you have to wait for the rigger to finish their job, might take some times since rigging stuff is not easy. (i used to rig stuff back in 2021, really hard with MilkShape3D)

[digital night]

beyond replacing textures with compatible size, i have never done anything in that department

[austere dock]

you have to align your desired skin bones with the already existed one, so it takes time, especially with models that nexon provided which their bones are misaligned on every weapon

if its in MilkShape3D, i believe its joints.

[digital night]

i replace all the models with models i put in grayscale

wish the rgb for the armor included black

[austere dock]

all the cso weapons iPosition and iSlot nero did are listed in csocommon.as

you can alter the position and slot there

its easy that way tbh

[digital night]

yeah, i just find it surprising it did not overlap witih all the other weapons i have

[austere dock]

weird. its usually overlapped in my case.

so i have to alter them

[digital night]

i used to have an elaborate list of all the ipositions for my weapons but i lost it so now i have to just guess

[austere dock]

funny how i run XP mod and buymenu with custom weapons and also other decorative things like pet plugin nero did and some chatsounds but i dont even go public server lmao

[digital night]

ive had a server for about 5 years, its easily the most modded server in sven. but im held back by needing a faster fastdl

[austere dock]

good for you ig. i just dont want to go public. plus my server is literally like copying misfire's style, misfire discount version. so i'd rather not do that

[digital night]

rage tried to hook me up with a fastdl from some german company and they never even got back with him. it seems like it would be about the same cost to just upgrade my internet package (i run it from home currently)

[austere dock]

i thought rage manage korea server too? wow.

[austere dock]

hmm, weird since you already alter the ammo value. does this still remain problem on your end til now?

if it does, i have to look into the script

[digital night]

rage is running a twlz inspired server with someone else called outerlimits

[digital night]

i think i fixed all the issues with max ammo

i think there was one gun that wouldnt increase, one of the pistols

[austere dock]

what is it?

[digital night]

i think i fixed it somehow

it was desperado or skull2 i think

or maybe another pistol i cut from my server

[austere dock]

weird. skull2 use 357. it should be 1000 if you have alter the ammo value.

[obsidian chasm]

@bitter valve will have to add support for sven hands in the new viewmodels me and @stuck crow rigged hands on

[obsidian chasm]

maybe I did something wrong? I didn't check, you are saying I named skull11 as balrog? but skull11 already had sven hands from default mmm

mmm i see it just fine

btw maybe just delete all hand options and leave the sven hands only hehe

wait no, that balrog has the smaller hands problem D: ayyyy we will have to rerig everything making the hands bigger in all the stretched models, when I made this I probably didn't check that

[digital night]

small hands!?

[obsidian chasm]

false alarm, the hands arent stretched but they look like shit, at least I can't fix them

[austere dock]

goop, i know you like memes but please appropriately post it in #off-topic instead

[graceful cedar]

you're so lame...

[digital night]

were doing business

👨‍💼

[obsidian chasm]

this is how you get wankered, don't whine about it afterwards

[digital night]

i dont see many wankers around. i assume they either get bored or banned

[austere dock]

sorry man, we're kinda discussing about cso weapons related, so if theres people who has issue with it, they can try to look up the chat again and know what to fix.

[obsidian chasm]

they were murdered in http://scmapdb.wikidot.com/map:military-duty

[digital night]

[stuck crow]

my favorite part btw

[stuck crow]

some of them are unfixable honestly

this might sound a little brutal, but I hope the nexon modelers have broken arms

[stuck crow]

like that

[stuck crow]

I'm done with beam sword
as a bonus, I made him remappable (just for myself, but I can still share as a separate mdl file)

easiest one btw

[digital night]

awesome, what ones are left?

[stuck crow]

I think after that SVD any rig is gonna be easy for me now
anyway, volcano is done

[stuck crow]

only cs vanilla guns

actually I don't really want to mess with it (because I personally use CSCZ weapons, so it would be useless for me)
but since I made a promise, I'm gonna rig them, too

[stuck crow]

also I'll fix THIS mistake

cuz I can't look at it and live with that

[stuck crow]

the rest of the guns are done

but I noticed one thing...

wtf, nexon!?

I thought it was my sven arms are broken, but no, it's a model from the game

[digital night]

hes movin' different

you gotta pay for the deluxe upgrade pack to get all 5 fingers

[stuck crow]

nobody will care if I'll just grab the CSCZ models as a base and replace all these shitty animations to improve this?

[austere dock]

meh, i dont mind much about hands stuff if you asked me.

[digital night]

i dont care about fancy animations and i dont use any of the lower poly models

[stuck crow]

I'm just a bit of a perfectionist

meh, fuck this shit, I'm done

[digital night]

which ones are left over?

[stuck crow]

@bitter valve here you go

there's all the stuff that done by me and Garompa

If I forgot something let me know

oh, I forgot that one

and that fixed one

and as a bonus cuz why not?

now it's kind of like that's all

[digital night]

whats different about the sword

[stuck crow]

recolorable beam

it's still be yellow in third person model, but I don't think this would be possible a priori without tampering with the script itself

in fact, for using it now, for the most weapons you need to put in this script these lines below "void Spawn()":

    g_iCSOWHands = HANDS_SVENCOOP;
    m_bSwitchHands = true;

[digital night]

in the as scripts?

[stuck crow]

yep

[digital night]

not seeing them in the individual weapon scripts

wait so they arent there yet? i have to add them?

the line isnt even there?

[stuck crow]

like that

[digital night]

but i have to add those lines, im not editing existing lines right?

[stuck crow]

no

[digital night]

i assumed it would already have an entry for another hand type

[stuck crow]

btw, @bitter valve, I don't know if it's a bug or not, but I tried something like this with dualwaki, thanatos9 and dragonclaw and my hands went back to the default CSO

[bitter valve]

The hand bodygroups have to be 0=male, 1=female, 2=sven
Along with the
g_iCSOWHands = HANDS_SVENCOOP; m_bSwitchHands = true;

It is far from perfect though, and was only meant as a temporary thing

[stuck crow]

well, it is .-.

it just goes back to CSO male hands after every animation played

[bitter valve]

check the sendweaponanim lines

and defaultReload

and DefaultDeploy

bResult = self.DefaultDeploy( self.GetV_Model(MODEL_VIEW), self.GetP_Model(MODEL_PLAYER), ANIM_DRAW, CSOW_ANIMEXT, 0, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0) );
That last part
, 0, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0)
is what actually does the displaying of different hands

self.DefaultReload( CSOW_MAX_CLIP, ANIM_RELOAD, CSOW_TIME_RELOAD, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0) );
this part
, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0)

and all sendweaponanim should end with , 0, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0)
self.SendWeaponAnim( ANIM_IDLE, 0, (m_bSwitchHands ? g_iCSOWHands : 0) )

[stuck crow]

oh, I get it

[digital night]

which ones need changed?

[bitter valve]

The weapons I've uploaded should all have that, even the ones with only 1 or 2 hands

Except for older weapons maybe

[digital night]

so they should all be right?

[bitter valve]

weapon_aeolis
weapon_balrog9
weapon_beamsword
weapon_bloodhunter
weapon_csobow
weapon_dragonclaw
weapon_dualwaki
weapon_m950
weapon_savery
weapon_skull2
weapon_volcano

[digital night]

did you find any wrong entries?

[bitter valve]

That's quite a few
aight Imma fix 'em

[digital night]

[stuck crow]

most of them have a few hands too
only aeolis, balrog9, bloodhunter and bow have only sc hands (if we're talking about my rar, of course)

[austere dock]

You guys are awesome.

[digital night]

would it be easier to just delete the extra hands

[stuck crow]

In fact, I'm generally in favor of replacing them with opfor and bshift arms, but there's a lot of work to be done there for that, and I'm already almost freaking out over one SVD

[bitter valve]

I'll probably split the models and put extra hands in the skins folder

[stuck crow]

it's even better this way

[digital night]

how many people are using the extra hands?

[stuck crow]

idk actually 🙂

[digital night]

if i have 5 people on im in the top 4 or 5 servers on the game. i dont think theres a lot of people running out to use these lol

by that i mean i dont know if its worth putting effort toward the alt skins unles we think someone is using them

but probably shouldnt toss em

[bitter valve]

Done

Probably

[bitter valve]

hah that's that shitty truck game where driving backwards is faster and makes you go at the speed of light

[stuck crow]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-video-game-nerd-avgn-funny-rage-mad-gif-17321758

[obsidian chasm]

I vote for only sven hands

Nobody really cares about cso hands i believe

Imho it makes it bad because every weapon has sven hands and then you find a cso gun and boom you suddenly lost your hev suit

[stuck crow]

the same

[digital night]

i went through all of them and edited them to use sven hands. im goign to test them to see which ones work correctly

[obsidian chasm]

or we can just recompile the mdls to have only sven hands 😛

[digital night]

is there a sven arms version of dragon claw?

wait nvm its in the model, some resaon it didnt load

i just looked and i have it set to use sven coop arms

yet some reason it didnt take in game

okay so the dualsword has multiple arm models it references somehow

[bitter valve]

dualsword already has sven hands

[digital night]

yeah i was just confused because i changed the texture and had to chagne it somewhere else

im having issues with the dragon claw and the dual waki not loading the sven arms

self.Precache();
g_EntityFuncs.SetModel( self, CSOW_MODEL_WORLD );
self.m_iClip = WEAPON_NOCLIP;
self.m_flCustomDmg = pev.dmg;
g_iCSOWHands = HANDS_SVENCOOP;
m_bSwitchHands = true;

    self.FallInit();

m950 wont use sven arms either

same issue with skull2

theers also a weird animation issue with skull11. sometimes when you shoot it it seems to teleport to the left

the animations seem broken. not sure if i did something to do that or not

thanatos doesnt use sven arms either when specified to do so

[digital night]

i tried to delete the other arm files

maybe i can specify the default texture in the qc file?

okay i figured it out. opened it with model viewer edited the qc, removed reference to other skins

[obsidian chasm]

i dont think you can edit the qc without decompiling the model?

[digital night]

yeah i decompile it, open the qc, remove the two or three lines that reference other other arms and leave the one that mentions sven, then compile it and bingo

these lines

"your move, punk"

i figured out what was wrong with the v_skull11 shotgun

some reason the draw animation is triggering randomly

[obsidian chasm]

that sounds like a script issue

i dont remember that happening to me

[digital night]

hm, i wonder what i could have done

[obsidian chasm]

make sure the reload doesnt have the loop box ticked

and... another reason could be wrong animation order, but you'd need the original model to compare it to

this one, you have to use half life asset manager

[digital night]

heres a lot of the fixed qc files if you need them

[austere dock]

I like this idea tbh, i actually just dont mind much and just okay with cso default hands

[obsidian chasm]

burn cso hands to the ground 😠

[stuck crow]

burn nexon for shitty rigs

[austere dock]

oh no, im gonna get scold by garompa and 49, RUN

[stuck crow]

DON'T

CALL

ME

[austere dock]

aight mb gang

[stuck crow]

GORDON9999

[stuck crow]

it's about aesthetics
I personally don't like to play with some hands first and then with others, that's why I started rigging sven hands to weapons that doesn't have this

actually I rig them all just for myself

[austere dock]

understandable. i'm not really picky type of person. Plus, its nice you guys do the rigging, since nero already overwhelmed with the code. I pretty much dont mind if nero put the default one, because i just want to wipe out monsters with the guns, and not caring about the hands much.

[obsidian chasm]

I have a all maps sven hands pack I made ages ago, it may be a bit shitty and outdated but has sven hands for all custom weapons of all existing maps to date

remind me to upload it when i come back home 1 month from now xd

[stuck crow]

I have this on my drive, I can upload em if you want

[obsidian chasm]

there are more now haha, so I must upload it myself. I will probably do it on moddb

I will include the cso weapons too

I'll recompile them without the other hands also

[stuck crow]

how about Gamebanana?

[digital night]

how difficulty is the process of rigging a new texture to a model to go from low definition arms to high definition? i have one i want to fix up

[obsidian chasm]

they will withhold the file until some rancid admin "reviews" it (he doesnt) because it needs to have the credits to each pixel

ignoring the fact that there are mostly no credits to 20 year old models found in a 2000s sven coop map

[digital night]

if you cant find the credit then it was put there by god

to be used

[obsidian chasm]

since you cannot credit, you make up random credits or somewhat credit some dudes, but then they withhold it anyway because it'd be a 200mb download and they dont want to host it

[stuck crow]

also, can you reupload the recolored hands for vanilla's one?

[obsidian chasm]

you mean default game?

[stuck crow]

ye

[obsidian chasm]

I will add reanimated ones for default and move the ones I have now to the hl classic folder, since the hl, bs and op4 folders have all the same guns

[stuck crow]

I can only imagine what a pain it is to search for information about an author who either disappeared from the internet a long time ago (went irl, for example) or died
and it's all about for credit him

[obsidian chasm]

99% of the time maps dont have credits to any weapon models. Finding who made each would be a pain. I will only be able to credit those I remember where I took them from. But since its a pack about replacing hands, maybe if I just credit that it'd be fine? idk

(btw we really went off topic D:)