#Bowden tube keeps slipping out

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vocal path
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I've used super glue, I've tried duct tape, I have epoxy resin sealed the darn thing. It just won't stay in there bro. Why? I can't afford to wait on a part does anyone know how I can keep this thing attached? 😩

stray zincBOT
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tame edge
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You need a new coupler.

haughty depot
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its like a dollar

tame edge
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The teeth on it are damaged and won't hold the tube.

vocal path
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It's a time thing, there is no way to permanently attach it to the coupler? Why won't super glue hold on?

haughty depot
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idk

tame edge
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Because it's PTFE

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Its non stick

jovial wagon
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Yeah, they have little teeth inside that will grip onto the tube, those can wear down over time.
You can try to repair the teeth inside by bending them a little, but honestly it's easier to buy a few

vocal path
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I've gone through a few of them. Is there a better option than the little plastic ones?

jovial wagon
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Do you remove the ptfe often or do you basically never touch them?

vocal path
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I have to remove it everytime o change filament because the filament won't feed into the tube through the coupler.

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Like it's blocked up, but I can clearly see it's not. Also, thank you guys for such quick responses I did not expect to get such speedy advice

jovial wagon
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That'll wear em down faster, my personal recommendation for a "longer" term solution is
New coupler and PTFE tube
Cut filament at a 45 degree angle and slightly bend it straight before feeding in
It should be relatively easy to feed into the tube

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As for right now, you can try to bend the little metal bits a little but shrug

vocal path
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Thank you all so much. ❤️

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There are no teeth. So that's probably not good. Probably explains my my last extruder exploded. Guessing the teeth got dragged in there and clogged it up.

jovial wagon
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blob_sweat I'd be seriously questioning where you purchased he PTFE couplers...

vocal path
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It came with the creality printer

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Like stock coupler never replaced it in 2 years

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Alright so for now, I just melted the end of it with a lighter and shoved it in there. Got a new coupler and some other tubes ordered and on the way, hopefully it will do this print tho.

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Nope

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Like I get why the inside would be nonstick. That makes sense, but for what reason would the outside. The part that needs to be gripped, be nonstick? Like my goodness this is the most frustrating thing ever. I'm definitely upgrading to direct feed, this is so annoying.

jovial wagon
dense epoch
dense epoch
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And get a new coupler and don't destroy it

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?pushfitting

stray zincBOT
tame edge
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Ptfe smoke stare

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Dont melt your ptfe tubes

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Youre releasing toxins

dense epoch
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If you feel nausea that won't go away after a few hours seek medical attention for "teflon-fever"

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Also you probably clogged that tube up good with this

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@vocal path

vocal path
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Frick

dense epoch
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Not necessarily

stray zincBOT
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PTFE Temperatures
TL;DR: Do not heat PTFE above 230C for long periods of time, and never above 260C.

Polytetrafluoroethylene, a.k.a. PTFE, a.k.a. Teflon, is a polymer renowned for its extremely low coefficient of friction. It is used in many industrial and domestic applications, most famously in non-stick pans. Relevant to us, PTFE is used as Bowden tubing and heatbreak liners in 3D printers for ease of filament transport. This places the polymer in close contact with areas where high temperatures are routinely encountered.

PTFE will begin to pyrolyze at 220 degrees centigrade. It will begin off-gassing at significant amounts at 240. At 260, this process will have accelerated to the point where the structural integrity of your tubing will have been compromised. Most contemporary citations focus not on the physical decomposition of PTFE but on the health effects of byproducts used in its manufacture. However one major health risk is directly attributable to PTFE pyrolysis: Polymer fume fever.

Polymer fume fever, or colloquially "Teflon flu", is a condition caused by overexposure to fumes (over the course of 4-8 hours) caused by the decomposition of PTFE. The advanced respiratory metabolism of birds make them particularly sensitive to polymer fumes, which leaves them at high risk of death in environments where such fumes are prevalent. Further reading is linked below.

Further reading

vocal path
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Aww man. I just got over the flu bro. I'm such an idiot.

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It has no odor and the smoke is colorless. That's fantastic

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I covered my face with a cloth when I did it. Hopefully that, helped?

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Guess we will find out in the morning. Sob

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Okay so it takes a lot to actually get Teflon fever. Most people that get it were exposed for several hours. Phew, I can sleep now lol. Thank you for stopping me from EVER doing that again though.

dense epoch
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Stay safe

vocal path
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Just to be sure I called poison control. They said I will be fine.

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What a way to join a community lmao 🤣

tame edge
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Yeah just dont do it again in the future

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Now you know

vocal path
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Learned a lot already haha

tame edge
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This same thing applies to teflon non stick frying pans btw

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Teflon is just brand name PTFE

vocal path
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Yeah, that's all I could find on the internet, but nothing for stupidly holding a lighter to a tube itself. But poison control said I would probably need to smoke the tube to actually get sick. 10 seconds of a lighter on it won't make me sick, but I will for sure not be doing that again.

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