New Benchy!

[oak flax]

No no no no no thats not what he meant.

We can't promote the server here.

[civic siren]

crao

crap

so what did he mean then?

[cinder vault]

[oak flax]

He meant that we can make a new Benchy here.

[civic siren]

ohhh ok\

alr then

so would i post in self promo?

[foggy raptor]

you can't post at all lmao

[oak flax]

No.

[civic siren]

ok damn

[oak flax]

We can just create it here.

[civic siren]

i guess so

[oak flax]

There might be one problem though.

We most likely all use different CAD.

[civic siren]

i'm good to learn smth new

[oak flax]

Same.

[civic siren]

@foggy raptor do you use anything specific?

[oak flax]

What do you use?

I use Fusion.

Also this is pretty valuable information.

[cinder vault]

What are you guys going to make it

Another boat?

[oak flax]

No.

[civic siren]

bnah

[oak flax]

New calibration model.

[civic siren]

something similar

but different

[civic siren]

OMG WE MUST KEEP THAT SAFE

[civic siren]

alr fusion it is

[oak flax]

We need to come up with an object thats common and everyone who does or doesn't have a printer understands what it is.

Just like the Benchy being a boat.

[oak flax]

Do you use Fusion?

[civic siren]

no, but i'm a fast learner

[oak flax]

Its in the ?benchy command.

[civic siren]

it'll take me a couple weeks

ok, good to know

[cerulean vortex]

3DBenchy
The 3D Benchy is a commonly used model to calibrate both the visual and dimensional accuracy of a FFF(FDM) printer. Due to its near ubiquitous nature this is often regarded as the standard benchmark print making it a useful model to print when seeking help for troubleshooting a model or improving print quality.

Settings for FFF(FDM) Machines
Scale: 1:1 (unmodified in size, from bow to stern #3DBenchy.stl measures 60.00 mm).
Layer height: 0.2 mm
Infill: 10%
Print speed: up to 50 mm/s
Nozzle diameter: 0.4 mm

Resources
Single Material Downloads: STL | 3MF
Multi Material Downloads: github repo
3D Benchy Website

Infographics: Dimensions | Features | Combined

?3dbenchy requested by: cybermafia314#0

[civic siren]

jigsaw piece?

overhangs for the studs

maybe writing on the piece itself

[foggy raptor]

fusion or onshape

[oak flax]

Perfect.

[civic siren]

alr guys give me a minute

[foggy raptor]

if its a cad i can perfectly work on it

hell i function even on freecad

[civic siren]

im used to tinkercad

usually

but i think fusion would be better for this

wait fusion isn't free right?

[oak flax]

That could work! We'll add that to a list for now and we'll keep thinking. We should have a list of ideas before we decide on one.

[oak flax]

They have a free version.

Personal use.

[civic siren]

that seems solid

[civic siren]

alr thats great

[foggy raptor]

we could work with a really small jigsaw puzzle, like 4 pieces
so we can add in tolerances

[civic siren]

i will go make myself some dinner and touch some grass, but i wll be back tmr with some more ideas and hopefully a better knowledge of fusion 360!

[civic siren]

that could work

[oak flax]

Maybe with different overhangs on each side of the puzzle pieces.

[grave iron]

https://www.printables.com/model/1140920-bb-boat-benchmark-step-cad-onshape/comments I swear this is a benchy derivative

[oak flax]

That is a Benchy.

I'm pretty sure thats exactly the same as a Benchy.

[grave iron]

I'm looking for mismatches

so far it almost fits with almost all features

[oak flax]

Oh no it says BB at the bottom.

I think they could still get him for that.

[grave iron]

the only feature that didn't match is honestly the front hull

its a good ass 1:1 of the benchy wtf

[foggy raptor]

also we could make the opposite of the benchy

we COULD make a car

[oak flax]

Ohhhhh.

I like that Idea.

Then it could also be small.

[foggy raptor]

like a really cartoony peppa pig looking car model

[oak flax]

Yeah!!

[foggy raptor]

so far i can think of long bridging extrusions for the roof, tolerance testing for the wheels

[grave iron]

oh hell naw

[oak flax]

Why not?

[foggy raptor]

dunno where would we fit overhangs though

[oak flax]

True.

[foggy raptor]

doors would be it

round doors

[grave iron]

Geometric flower?

You can start with a small base curving upwards

[foggy raptor]

but how would we squish OTHER tests in it?

the idea and success of the benchy is that its packed with tests

[cinder vault]

Just another calibration cube...

[foggy raptor]

too unoriginal

[oak flax]

Not the worst idea. People know what a cube is.

[civic siren]

calibration cube with abc

we call it the abc calibration cube

[grave iron]

the point of the benchy was, is to torture test the printer, while getting a good looking print at the end

[civic siren]

tru

i liked the car idea

[grave iron]

calibration cubes are NOT viable for that

[cinder vault]

Chubby croc is my new standard

[oak flax]

And that its a common thing. Everyone knows what a boat is.

[foggy raptor]

also the same for the car idea

[civic siren]

exactly

[grave iron]

what about a tent

[foggy raptor]

or an igloo

[civic siren]

the igloo might be able to fit more test

[oak flax]

Thats true.

I think we might be focusing on the wrong thing right now.

We need to know what tests we want our model to do.

[grave iron]

nah we need an inspiration first, then we pack tests into it 💀

though that method also works

[civic siren]

i feel like @oak flax is right

[grave iron]

the benchy wasn't a tolerance test

[civic siren]

well we want overhangs

[civic siren]

it was a torture test

[cinder vault]

All it needs is overhangs and dimensional accuracy tbh

[civic siren]

speed too tho

[grave iron]

fine features too

[cinder vault]

No not really

[cinder vault]

Easily measurable features

[oak flax]

We want to be able to do fast versions of these models too. Just like how people do speed boats.

[grave iron]

you know that em waveform? we could pack it in the back

or something, it could work as a fine feature test

[oak flax]

Waveform? Whats that?

[civic siren]

like electromagnetic wave formula?

[cinder vault]

Then they should slice their prints to be fast

[grave iron]

maybe later, we need more tests

[civic siren]

ok so we have overhangs and dimensional accuracy

how about bed adhesion?

[grave iron]

bridging test and PA test too

even benchy doesn't do that, if it doesn't print, you got bad adhesion lmao

[civic siren]

for the bed adhesion, we should make it different to how benchy did it

[cinder vault]

How do you test bridging over a small model? 5mm of bridging isn't a good benchmark

[foggy raptor]

also igloo wouldnt be possible without supports

[oak flax]

Well yeah thats what you have to do to go fast. The Benchy seems to always be used to test speed.

[civic siren]

well

[cerulean vortex]

3DBenchy
The 3D Benchy is a commonly used model to calibrate both the visual and dimensional accuracy of a FFF(FDM) printer. Due to its near ubiquitous nature this is often regarded as the standard benchmark print making it a useful model to print when seeking help for troubleshooting a model or improving print quality.

Settings for FFF(FDM) Machines
Scale: 1:1 (unmodified in size, from bow to stern #3DBenchy.stl measures 60.00 mm).
Layer height: 0.2 mm
Infill: 10%
Print speed: up to 50 mm/s
Nozzle diameter: 0.4 mm

Resources
Single Material Downloads: STL | 3MF
Multi Material Downloads: github repo
3D Benchy Website

Infographics: Dimensions | Features | Combined

?3dbenchy requested by: mglife2#0

[cinder vault]

Because everyone knows what the benchy is and how long an average benchy print should take

[oak flax]

This will help us a lot.

[oak flax]

We can try and do that on this model.

[foggy raptor]

we should try and work and cross out or approve different model ideas individually

essentially in a google doc

[civic siren]

yes definitely

[grave iron]

are we assigning story points for that

[oak flax]

Is there anyway for me to join that without sharing my Gmail?

[oak flax]

What do you mean?

[civic siren]

i... think so?

[foggy raptor]

probably not, as it would need to have public editing access

and we wouldnt want that

[grave iron]

the setup is too corporate, we should send drawings even if crappy

[civic siren]

yeah, make it a bit more traditional

[foggy raptor]

though could take a little time, you could create a separate account for this

[oak flax]

True.

We can add windows to the igloo for this.

[foggy raptor]

so we could have:
overhangs
dimensional accuracy
holes - cylindrical shapes in general
symmetry

[oak flax]

We can have a word on the side and bottom of the igloo just like the Benchy.

[foggy raptor]

we can also add tiny details in just like the steering wheel for the benchy

but we'd have to design it REALLY, REALLY well for it to print without supports though

no more than 60º overhangs for the inside

[oak flax]

We've got time 🤷‍♂️.

[foggy raptor]

i mean yeah

sure will be fun working on it though

[oak flax]

And it doesn't have to be an igloo. We can always think of a new idea, but for now this is the best one.

[oak flax]

For sure!

[grave iron]

we should probably look at objects around the house first tbh, then compile it ourselves what are the merits of the object in question before sharing. I've noticed we're sticking to just one idea right now which is quite inefficient

[oak flax]

You're right.

Igloos aren't too common either.

[civic siren]

of course!

[foggy raptor]

im kinda tired for this right now, we should schedule a brainstorming session sometime

currently 11:49 pm

mostly like right now

but with more organization into it

[oak flax]

Yeah that'd be great!

[foggy raptor]

i think im going to sleep, people
but mind will not cease at printer benchmark ideas, i will come back tomorrow with a fuckload of ideas

[civic siren]

f course!

have a nice night, @foggy raptor

and thanks, y'all. for helping and being awesome people

[foggy raptor]

but how i think it should work:

1. everybody lists ideas
2. start discussing about ideas, point out pros and cons, tests that can be fit into, but each individually, with focus on each one, maybe a mention of a past idea.
3. start crossing out ideas until we find the one
4. start sketching
5. start the first versions of the model
   after that, development will play out by itself

[grave iron]

should have brought a mouse, I have an idea but won't tell lol

[foggy raptor]

so anyone thats interested in helping in this project, grab your preferred text editor and start writing out ideas, after you're done you can dm me it or send it here, and ill create a big google doc of ideas which we'll discuss over

ill also write a list of my own

but anyways, good night people!

[oak flax]

I'm happy people are taking this seriously.

I thought people wouldn't put effort in.

[civic siren]

me too 😄

[oak flax]

So what size model are we thinking?

40x40?

60x60?

[civic siren]

in mm?

[oak flax]

Yes.

[civic siren]

i'd say 60x60 is fine

but in that case

we will have to be less detailed with more things (outside, windows, etc)

assuming we are doing igloo (I'm just using it as an example)

[oak flax]

The Benchy is about that size though.

[civic siren]

it is?

[oak flax]

It has a bunch of tests.

[civic siren]

ok then

maybe we can add details

but simple, obvious ones

[civic siren]

what abt the y?

its prob like 30, right?

[oak flax]

Yup.

[civic siren]

wait a minute

what about a filament spool of some sort?

definetly overhangs

the detailed lines could be considered dimensional accuracy

[oak flax]

I thought about that, but that'd be difficult to print.

[civic siren]

how so?

[oak flax]

Because either way you print it, it needs supports.

[civic siren]

oh true

because if you print it on the cardboard

like the face of the spool

then the overhangs are 90 degrees

[oak flax]

Yeah thats way too much.

True torture.

[civic siren]

also, fusion 360 is giving me attitude, so i cant use it

do you have any other preferences?

[oak flax]

I could try Onshape.

If that works for you.

[civic siren]

let me take a look at it

[oak flax]

@civic siren I think thisis a really good idea from Derra.

[grave iron]

I honestly thought of this but decided against it because it is way too cool lol

[oak flax]

That only helps.

It being cool means more people are interested.

[civic siren]

thats a great idea

[grave iron]

its also nerd-ish

[oak flax]

I thought so too!

[civic siren]

lemme inviter @native steeple

to the server

[oak flax]

You're in a damn 3DP server.

[grave iron]

me when I inviter derra

[oak flax]

We're all nerds.

[native steeple]

[cinder vault]

That's not PEEK

[native steeple]

Aircraft related: Jetty or Planey
Space Related: Spacey or Shippy

[true gorge]

throw down my proposal
🥦 + 🛻
Truckoli

[native steeple]

IMO something space related is likely to have more "natural" features you can measure

[grave iron]

it honestly ends like a cylinder if its space related 💀

futuristic space design needed

[native steeple]

Nah, just do a futuristic object. Have thrusters, etc.

Those are all defined features that can integrate overhangs, bridging, fine details, on top of having defined dimensions you can easily measure.

[true gorge]

why we not goin with https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4575774

specifically the v8

because v6's are garbo

[oak flax]

Almost none of us are good at CAD.

[true gorge]

sir, I will have you know, I am perfectly below mediocre

[grave iron]

imagine the search terms: 3DEngine
3DEngine CAD
3DEngine Cad Thingiverse 3d printing

[oak flax]

Thats true.

[grave iron]

the second option in the search engine be like:
V8 3D printing benchmark
V8 3DEngine 3dp benchmark -> Did you mean: V8 3D Engine 3DP benchmark (shows full scale 3dp engines)

to be fair this only demonstrates why we need a good name

[true gorge]

hey that would be a pretty good benchmark

most people's printers could barely fit a single cylinder

let alone 8

[grave iron]

SPACE SHUTTLE

[oak flax]

Yes.

And we name it Jetty like Derra said.

[grave iron]

idk what the fuck am I doing

that thruster part is unprintable bet

stubby ahh jet

[oak flax]

Uhhhhhh.

We need to find people who actually know CAD.

None of us do.

[grave iron]

yeah...

[oak flax]

I can try and draw something, but I can't model it.

[grave iron]

my hands are a bit hurting since I'm also modelling this in freecad + trackpoint lmao

no mouse

[oak flax]

Oof.

[true gorge]

oh wait I think I have a model for submission

https://cad.onshape.com/documents/2c99f2ae2fca80c22be0da4a/w/3e85af2822dfb509944b0e99/e/ba8acd9af560c830e32db229?renderMode=0&uiState=6780b607018ce208ad6c5561

was not sure what purpose it had at the time
now I know its' true calling

[cerulean vortex]

3DBenchy
The 3D Benchy is a commonly used model to calibrate both the visual and dimensional accuracy of a FFF(FDM) printer. Due to its near ubiquitous nature this is often regarded as the standard benchmark print making it a useful model to print when seeking help for troubleshooting a model or improving print quality.

Settings for FFF(FDM) Machines
Scale: 1:1 (unmodified in size, from bow to stern #3DBenchy.stl measures 60.00 mm).
Layer height: 0.2 mm
Infill: 10%
Print speed: up to 50 mm/s
Nozzle diameter: 0.4 mm

Resources
Single Material Downloads: STL | 3MF
Multi Material Downloads: github repo
3D Benchy Website

Infographics: Dimensions | Features | Combined

?3dbenchy requested by: mglife2#0

[grave iron]

hell naw

[oak flax]

💀

[grave iron]

need better modeller

[oak flax]

Yeah....

I'm trying to draw something on with a pen and paper rn.

[grave iron]

I bet this can be printed upwards though while providing the same print test perf

[oak flax]

Thats what I was thinking.

[native steeple]

Add a cockpit

[grave iron]

bet we can even make it look like an X-29

[oak flax]

That'd be cool.

[grave iron]

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/190705151032-grumman-x-29-151028-f-dw547-002.jpg?q=w_1800,h_1200,x_0,y_0,c_fill

that would also provide the vertical print with a decent wing that actually works with FDM

[oak flax]

Yeah!

[grave iron]

oh... The nose cone payload can act as a tolerance test

you can have it be detached from the print and then slide mechanism in to attach it

[oak flax]

I think thats a bit too complicated.

Good idea, but complicated.

[grave iron]

lmao IKEA rocket benchy

bunch of tolerance tests , bit of bridge tests, overhang test and the likes

[oak flax]

Windows will be really helpful.

Makes it really easy to sneak in overhang and tolerance tests.

[grave iron]

that could be a detail test, inset windows

actually you know what even funnier, add a hole on the front and a pin on the back

you can dock the jets

[oak flax]

Cool, but unnecessary.

[grave iron]

the benchy can be docked

[oak flax]

What?

[grave iron]

nah I think the docking idea would be funny

people can print adapters and make their own ISS too

[oak flax]

Thats not the point though...

[grave iron]

print solar panels too

[oak flax]

We're making the new Benchy though.

[grave iron]

and I think adding new funny features on it would be fun

people can use it as a test print, and as a toy later on

[oak flax]

Agree to disagree.

[true gorge]

I think a true next gen bench model needs to have some element of interference fit test
speed benchies was gamed to hell because it didn't have to meet any sort of functional criteria
so long as the general shape looked like a boat, seems it got a pass

[oak flax]

Ah I didn't think about that.

You're absolutely right.

[spiral ridge]

minimum tolerance of 0.2mm i guess

[wooden oriole]

i can do some light modeling in blender

[oak flax]

We'll take any help we can get.

All of us suck at modeling.

[wooden oriole]

hooryipydayipyay

send sketches ill try to model

[oak flax]

Yeah thats the problem.

We don't really have those rn.

[true gorge]

need to come up with an actual concept instead of randomly modeling stuff
or you'll end up with something like this

[oak flax]

Is that a train with eyes?

[true gorge]

sir those are tail lights
smh my head

[oak flax]

Trains have those?

[true gorge]

mine does

[oak flax]

You have a train?

[true gorge]

well no

but if I built one, that's how I would make it

[oak flax]

Ok.

[true gorge]

that was simply an exercise of my CAD prowess

[oak flax]

Ah ok.

[cinder vault]

https://www.printables.com/model/1141963-3d-boaty

[oak flax]

Nice more insperation.

[gritty star]

thats like 99% bridging test

but I like the name lol

[civic siren]

guys

i had an epiphany

instead of drawing

hear me out

legos?

[oak flax]

No.

[sacred wigeon]

Hello

[sacred wigeon]

Yes this chair

[blissful olive]

orcay.... (whale...)

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4803370
can we also get something that includes simple tolrences... that one area benchy seems to miss

[blissful olive]

if you print in grey... it fuses especially if a holden..

[oak flax]

Yeah Wifi mentioned that there should be tolerance tests because the only criteria for a good speed Benchy is for it to follow the rules and look like a boat shaped object.

[blissful olive]

orca whale with removable fins...
we can do a merge into orca maybe (if thats got no copyright on it) and then can be in the default calibration tests..

[spiral ridge]

https://www.printables.com/model/1143475-beepy-jeepy-benchy-replacement-test-1

[gritty star]

too much plastic

but i like the beepy

[blissful olive]

i agree... smaller toasters...
beepy is great!

[narrow delta]

https://www.printables.com/model/829817-torture-spider-3d-printer-torture-test-overhangs-c

idk anything better than calidragon for speeds and overhangs
https://www.printables.com/model/209121-cali-dragon

looking for smth

[jolly flower]

3 part Train
Train and caboose that test seperate printer specs and cars that test filament

[sage scaffold]

I dont think ill be able to do this with a million accel lmao

[oak flax]

Have you seen Derra's idea?

[sage scaffold]

https://www.printables.com/model/1104014-utility-knife-f1-gen2

I think something like this is a good idea

it's useful, and you have to assemble it and show that it works after

[sage scaffold]

no

[jolly flower]

The train would be more useful

Benchy popular because people wanted to add to it outside of its benchmark purpose

A train would welcome people to add to the design in the form of cars

[oak flax]

No lol.

Its popular because its a boat.

Everyone knows what a boat is.

[jolly flower]

Everyone knows what a train is

[oak flax]

Everyone knows what a jet is.

[jolly flower]

Could you get the intricate specs of benchy in a jet?

[oak flax]

Yes.

[spiral ridge]

something that showcases it passes some kind of tolerance

whether it's a print-in-place articulating object, or an assembling object that slides together like orca's cube or the tool kevin linked above

[sage scaffold]

Honestly, orca cube isn't a bad choice

[jolly flower]

Kevin do you see anything wrong with a train?

[sage scaffold]

Which one

[jolly flower]

A new model

Entirely new

Like a steam train with specs similar to benchy and cars that test filament

[sage scaffold]

Not sure. Seems like a good idea

[jolly flower]

It would encourage the printing community to model their own cars and accessories which would be the equivalent of what benchy was trying to be

[blissful olive]

beepy jeepy is great... but one minor issue with this, is no z offset testing.... (printing my first jeep)

[narrow delta]

https://www.printables.com/model/281078-torture-stairs

https://www.printables.com/model/208185-printable-fractal-5

[narrow delta]

i wish they would say the tolerances between the parts, like if its 0mm, 0.05 or 0.1mm like the orca tolerance test

[quasi peak]

It could work

CC with attribution is workable

[gritty star]

Not a great replacement for the benchy tbh

I had to turn on my aux fan for it to print good

More like a bridging torture test than overall calibration model

[oak flax]

Beepy Jeepy is growing on me.

Common object ✅

Tests a lot of stuff ✅

Small and fast to print ✅

That checks off all of the boxes.

[gritty star]

no benchy hull line 🙏

[quasi peak]

SpeedBeepyRace

I’m here for it

[oak flax]

What?

[gritty star]

benchy hull line

https://help.prusa3d.com/article/the-benchy-hull-line_124745

[quasi peak]

The change in speed due to going from the bottom of the hull to doing the deck often causes a line due to the layers taking longer

[oak flax]

Oh good.

No ugly lines.

[narrow delta]

is there an easy way to do this in orca

[gritty star]

no idea man

[sage scaffold]

If you print in a chamber with the temp around material tg, there shouldn't be a hull line

[narrow delta]

tg?

also jeepy is harder than i thought it would be maybe a bit useful