#1Mon’s 2012 Mendel

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bought this mendel for 30 dollars on facebook marketplace
gonna try to get it working

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slate summit
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Restoration, Renovation, or Reimaging with modern design understanding?

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swift flume
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I'd say more 2013-14 due to the JHead MkV & Rep2-based spring-tension extruder

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maybe i should power it on tonight…

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@swift flume good idea?

swift flume
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consult on nerdery monday at the earliest

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SMRRFing

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so @swift flume

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how do i get this thing alive

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i need pronterface right?

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yup

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wiring it up to the psu

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previous owner was nice enough to lable the woires

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so should i just switch it on? @swift flume

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i think i have it wired correctly

swift flume
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check for shorts w/ a multimeter and doublecheck wiring

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i dont have a multimeter

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its prolly fine all the wiring i did was to the psu

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how do i connect it with usb?

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it didnt explode

swift flume
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im struggling to connect it lol

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idk which COM it is and which rate to use

slate summit
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115200 most likely

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install serial monitor and itll tell you what com appears when you plug it in

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may need to install ch340 drivers

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slate summit
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no it's a window tray service, I may misremember the name

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maybe serial port monitor

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tawdry notch
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the gang is here

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tawdry notch
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i just had to look up what i use... yeah... Serial Port Notifier.

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nothing comes up

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just says "serial ports: none"

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well did you install the ch340 drivers?

tawdry notch
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thats the first thing i would check, the second would be a proper USB-cable

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nah lemme install those

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got a link for those drivers?

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tawdry notch
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a millisecond earlier, i win this

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xD

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ok thank you very much

bold thunder
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nice

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also install putty as a serial console alternative

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still getting no ports

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i use mobaxterm lol

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nothing is showing up

slate summit
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as @tawdry notch said try another USB cable

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does the printer have a display?

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i get like the notif sound but nothing hapepns

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no display

slate summit
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notification sound is good

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you can also check device manager

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or run mode in windows command line

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theres this one

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tawdry notch
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you´re using an usb-hub?

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definitely try to connect the mendel board directly

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nah no usb hub

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oh is that the usb hub

tawdry notch
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maybe. Some of the name sounds like it, but it could also be the integrated hub on your motherboard

slate summit
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well unplug the mendel and see whether that device manager entry goes away

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yeah it goes away

tawdry notch
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also try other usb-ports

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tgats the one

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different port

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slate summit
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did you reboot your windows machine after installing the driver

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nah

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thats probably the issue

tawdry notch
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(some mainboards only have one or two "true" usb-ports, the rest go through kind of an internal multiplexer/hub)

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do that then

tawdry notch
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oh, reboot!

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yeah lol

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doin that now

tawdry notch
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perfect. 🙂

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this machine sounds so bad

tawdry notch
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the amount of shite a reboot fixes is unreal

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slate summit
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uh oh computer isn’t turning back on

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ope

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hard reboot time

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wtf it turned on as soon as i unplugged the printer

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also pleas don't do that with the bed, your electronics are old enough that they could get damaged

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ah your right mb

tawdry notch
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good point. A lot of actual boards will also die if you move stuff by hand

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Duets wont

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duet and duet clones were pretty resilient so far

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they have diodes in place to make that harder

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still getting none in the thing

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CP2102 time

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gnah... which board are we talking?

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a 2013 era sanguinolo I assume

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this… thing

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tawdry notch
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ugh. Ok, im out of my knowledge here

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thanks for your help yay

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"Melzi Ardentissimo" think360

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google time \o/

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another reboot time

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check ftdi problems on this site

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that board runs a non genuine ftdi serial chip

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hmmmm

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so now what

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no idea whether any of the workarounds work or if the ftdi clone chip on that board is bricked

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I'd check from a linux box

tawdry notch
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not important right now, but for the future...

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(live cd boot if you dont have like an rPi flying around)

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slate summit
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welp then i’m out of luck

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you! could make a live usb

tropic sparrow
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is this little guy what i need to change

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it’s on vreg not usb

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thats just from where the board gets powered

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ah

tropic sparrow
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might as well click reset right?

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see if that fixes anything

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@tropic sparrow that looks broken?

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okay

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could hitting reset break things

tawdry notch
tawdry notch
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ok reset it is

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but im not sure it solves anything.

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let’s see if it fixes things

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^^

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its more if you´re in a state you dont want to be/cant exit

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hotend burning red, menu items not working

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so yeah i’m getting the usb unplug and plug sound but nothing pops up

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maybe if i put an sd card in?

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idk

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its unlikely to help

tawdry notch
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thats weird. Sounds like a driver issue, so correct driver not installed

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maybe if there is an uart header exposed you can try using an usb/serial adapter

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do you think that’s what’s cooked

tawdry notch
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so should i buy a replacement mainboard for it?

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its in the FAQ

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where are you located @sage epoch?

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us

tawdry notch
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my condolences

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^^

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darn, would have sent you one of my old spares if in EU

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damn

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so if you get a replacement board, dont try and get another melzi

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go direct for an skr3 or fly super5 or somesuch

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swapping all these screw terminals seems like a pain

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i’m gonna try the workaround first

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unless you want to relive the pain of trying to fit Marlin into an 1284p

tawdry notch
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if you have the time to invest, yes

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yes try the workaround first

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else... am i allowed to recommend a duet?

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always

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\o/

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duet is love

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put a duet3 mini on a mendel (-;

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im finally buying two original duet 3 mini 5´s

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for... further projects. 😄

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originals even

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yup. After 12 or so great clones. Of which i gifted away some. kuya and ninsa have some iirc

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oh, and ded ofc

tropic sparrow
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hmm

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workaround isn’t working around

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$15? o,0

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yeah those will be fine @sage epoch fetch

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agh but thats so much crimping

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they wont have all the great features due to lack of ram and flash

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34 whole crimps

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tropic sparrow
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death by iwiss

tawdry notch
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ok unplugging fire hazard printer and taking a break

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i literally crimped all my duet stuff once on all my printers, and never looked back

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and on the laser. And CNC.

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with the duet i could run rrf right

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yessir

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do not get those

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tawdry notch
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sometimes you have to

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you can also just get an skr3 with wifi module and run rrf on that

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most of my stuff is duet, but two flatpacks running klipper and marlin

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or fly

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or a duet3 mini

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fly is also cool.

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i shoud have just bought the skr3 when it was super cheap

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to be fair, an skr pico will probably be enough

tawdry notch
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flatpackrev is not yet in working order but moves.

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whats that super tiny board

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skr pico or AIO II

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how does this thing do z tilt? there are two z motors

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is it two motors on independent drivers? might also add two z endstops and do G34 on a modern Marlin

swift flume
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It'll be two motors wired together to one driver

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then Tushonks approach will do