FrankEnder (Sort of Back)

[swift sluice]

I'll probably make a build thread for my toolhead build when I do it

[remote folio]

i basically revived his project

[spiral narwhal]

Eh I was gonna come back around to it soon

Had to figure out what my roadmap was

Got a clear idea of what I want to finalize it

[remote folio]

nice

[spiral narwhal]

Similar to ASA or ABS

Just a bit hotter

[remote folio]

are you sure it prints fine though

[spiral narwhal]

I changed almost no settings between my ASA and PC-ABS

Well look at my pics

I have a lot of pics

My forum has a lot of answers

[remote folio]

that ambrosia stuff is so much cheaper then any other pc/abs

u sure its legit

and

did you just do the whole belted z thing in pc-abs

thats what it looks like

[spiral narwhal]

I said ASA-CF for belted Z

Again, all red parts are ASA-CF

Black are PC-ABS

[spiral narwhal]

And yes it’s legit

Ambrosia is a very solid brand

I’ve used their stuff for this build and it was great

And I’m about to make a very large order for more stuff from them

$25/kg is amazing for PC-ABS and it’s real

Polymaker’s is way more expensive

Planning to place a large order because I have used their materials alongside other experienced users in this server and trust the quality

[remote folio]

bet

ill cop

[spiral narwhal]

@remote folio ^

[remote folio]

well i need to buy the asa-cf first

[spiral narwhal]

Can just use normal ASA

I just already had the dark red ASA-CF and chose to use it

Cause I liked the color

[remote folio]

Oh

I have white asa

[spiral narwhal]

Really most stuff you can just use PETG for

[remote folio]

Oh fr?

[spiral narwhal]

Just motor mounts need to be ASA at the least

PC-ABS if you plan to run them fast

[remote folio]

So pc abs for motor mounts and petg/asa for the rest

[gilded jewel]

asa cf is so pretty

[remote folio]

But petg/abs isn’t as stiff as asa cf

[spiral narwhal]

Yes for sure

[spiral narwhal]

ASA-CF is unnecessary tbh

Also I didn’t even use it for any components that really needed it

I just really liked the way it looked

[remote folio]

Oh

[gilded jewel]

sorry for invading your post just need to show appreciation for asa cf

[spiral narwhal]

I was only ever saying what I used since you stated you knew stuff about printer modding and custom builds

[remote folio]

What about petg-cf

[spiral narwhal]

If you want the CF look that’s valid

CF makes super clean looking parts

[remote folio]

Oh yeah it rly does

[gilded jewel]

kinda useless but it’s pretty

[spiral narwhal]

I welcome this beauty

[gilded jewel]

you haven’t seen the wire management

[spiral narwhal]

💀

[gilded jewel]

it’s peeking around

[remote folio]

LMFAOOOO

but wouldn’t petg cf like tear up the belts

[gilded jewel]

yes that blue wire is my tachomeyer

[remote folio]

?

[gilded jewel]

belts shouldn’t touch printed parts

[remote folio]

I mean yeah

[gilded jewel]

stationary it’s fine like in a belt clip

but no moving bits

[remote folio]

Okay

I have Asa and petg cf

So it dosent really matter which one I use?

[gilded jewel]

i’d focus on the design before filaments

make your own project post let’s not clog up kols

[remote folio]

I did make one

Nobody joined

[gilded jewel]

oh

oops

[remote folio]

@spiral narwhal whats ur toolhead design

[spiral narwhal]

Got toolhead from Kevin. Extruder is a ProtoXtruder

[remote folio]

wheres his toolhead

all i see is the idex one

[remote folio]

oh also, are the steppers higher voltage to be ran at 400000 accel

[remote folio]

oh its probably just the stinger toolhead

[fickle stone]

Nope

[remote folio]

is the ender 3 meanwell psu good enough

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then what is it?

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cause i wanna be safe

[fickle stone]

His own

Search for files he posted in his thread

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this is the thread

[fickle stone]

#1260037420083314759

[remote folio]

no thats diffrent

[fickle stone]

Idex toolhead ≠ non idex toolhead

[remote folio]

yeah

[spiral narwhal]

All the parts are Kevin’s

Besides my tray that is specifically meant for a DP5 MCU

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other then the aux fans

i assume

[spiral narwhal]

Aux fans are stinger yeah

[remote folio]

oh

also

sry for yapping so much

[spiral narwhal]

All good, it is a bit hard to find info in forums since you can’t use the search function

[remote folio]

yeah

[spiral narwhal]

I’ve got a lot wrong with my printer right now

And it needs fixing

This was using improper settings and cooling among other things

And I don’t think my X was properly tensioned

Kevin’s fastest on almost this exact same setup was 2:28

@knotty path

[knotty path]

Thanks for responding so promptly

I believe in you

One day you will have that sub 2:30 boat

[grave lynx]

You're running PLA.

Kevin was running ABS.

[spiral narwhal]

I am aware

Read the description

[grave lynx]

Ah ok.

[spiral narwhal]

All good just it explains in there what the situation is on that

This wasn’t all-out cause I assumed it wouldn’t do all that great anyways

[spiral narwhal]

I already needed to sort out board cooling and such

And I knew PLA wouldn’t be able to handle the flow I needed

[spiral narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-i-regret-nothing-gif-4194396

[north crown]

get yourself a sunon pf40281bx

31cfm of flow 🗿

[remote folio]

Just out of curiosity how would something like my setup fair

[north crown]

wdym by that

[remote folio]

The sunon vs the roborock fan and breakneck thing

[north crown]

wait lets take it to ur thread

[novel garden]

What motors did you upgrade to compared to the stock ones to get better speeds and accels as well as going rails and belted z? @spiral narwhal

I'm also upgrading my max to a frankenduct and already have a dual z so prob not gonna go belted

[spiral narwhal]

Stepper online Nema17 2004S

[novel garden]

For all of em?

[spiral narwhal]

Yes

[novel garden]

What kinda work did the install take? I assume you're running klipper too

Software side I mean

[spiral narwhal]

I suggest getting PC-ABS if you plan to run them at higher amps

But for software nothing hard

[novel garden]

I print ASA mostly but I'm not gonna mess with normal amperage I dont think

Can the stock board run it? I've got a laptop running klipper and the motors all connected to the stock board

[spiral narwhal]

That should be fine but I’d suggest asking somebody with more hardware knowledge

[novel garden]

Aight thanks

[spiral narwhal]

I don’t know how well the stock board will respond

[novel garden]

Klipper side I assume you just changed the config basically?

[remote folio]

Just get an skr mini

Or an octopus

[novel garden]

I'm trying to avoid as much work as possible. At this point idk if just replacing the board with an skr mini or whatever would actually be as easy as swapping the motors over and figuring out how the power supply connects

[fickle stone]

Usually via screw terminals

[novel garden]

Ah not an issue then

As for the rest, any work I'd need to do there?

Other than setting the correct amps and voltage per motor

@fickle stone

[fickle stone]

Motor phases might not be the same so you may need to swap some pins around on one side of the motor cables

[novel garden]

Doable

Aight awesome so I might just swap boards then

@spiral narwhal are you running any specific board by chance?

[remote folio]

It’s simple

[spiral narwhal]

Fly DP5

[knotty path]

i'm afraid he isn't running a specific board. only a vague one.

[north crown]

DP5 gang, except kevins hotend mosfet failed open

[fallow swallow]

even better. failed closed 😭

[spiral narwhal]

We’re back

Working out some mechanical kinks at the moment

[north crown]

yooo nice

[spiral narwhal]

My main issue right now is wobbling on the motion system and extrusion consistency

[north crown]

is your 2209 overheating still

[spiral narwhal]

Doing a VFA test

[spiral narwhal]

I’ll solve that once I do the e-box

[north crown]

oh youhave you tried out the feet mod?

[spiral narwhal]

But for right now just keeping them lower power

[north crown]

what lh does for his y on his e3 before stinger

[spiral narwhal]

I have it on the stock feet

Oh

Nah

[north crown]

Yeah try the lh printed feet mod

cuz it supprots the y

[spiral narwhal]

I’m doing what Kevin is doing

[north crown]

extrusion coming right

[spiral narwhal]

With the extrusion across the front

[north crown]

yeah nice

rigid

[spiral narwhal]

Yeah

That’s the hope

[north crown]

1.6 is your cap rn right

[spiral narwhal]

Beacon oh how I missed you

I’ll check what it’s set to

[delicate dirge]

We so back

[north crown]

this build is 10x better than kevins

uses beacon

[spiral narwhal]

It’s at 1.5 right now

Oh wait no

[fickle stone]

Shots fired

[spiral narwhal]

Cartographer lol

Cringetographer

[north crown]

more like shitographer

[spiral narwhal]

But yeah running on 1.5A at the moment

[north crown]

how fast does that get you?

[spiral narwhal]

I need to do an E-box so I can get more cooling and move some stuff off the printer

[north crown]

🗿 ebox

Honestly like for most printers I prefer ebox with a breakout

[fallow swallow]

Print my new X double shear if you are using the old one

The old one literally doesn't work

[spiral narwhal]

lol

Okay

I need to install the silicone nozzle brush

The carto survey touch really doesn’t like a dirty nozzle

It also like going bonk on the soft bed

[fallow swallow]

I stand by this nozzle brush

It's so good

[spiral narwhal]

Okay yeah survey touch doesn’t work on smooth bed

Every touch is out of tolerance

[fallow swallow]

works on mine

it's worked on every surface ive used

[spiral narwhal]

What’s your tolerance?

Cause for me it’s 0.01 and every touch was like 0.03 or more apart

Also just realized I didn’t clean my PEI so this likely won’t stick unless the NPA is absolutely goated

Cause this thing is dusty lol

Yeah every touch just now was under 0.006

After going back to the PEI bed

So it didn’t like the smooth plate

[fallow swallow]

how do I do I check the touch tolerances

[spiral narwhal]

It would be in the cartographer section IIRC

Since its survey touch tolerance

NPA is goated

FrankEnder (Sort of Back)

[spiral narwhal]

Pfft

[fallow swallow]

this is on textured. imma try smooth now

[spiral narwhal]

That’s hilarious

[fallow swallow]

it's worse with smooth, but still usable

CF/FR4 seems to be even worse

[spiral narwhal]

Weird

Must’ve just still had gunk on my nozzle

Right now I really just want to get FrankEnder to a point where I can happily move on to a new project and just let it crank out prints

Since I’ve taken a hiatus on printing as of lately

Printed maybe 3-5 things in the last 2 months and haven’t touched my printers beyond changing the filament

VFA test mostly shows on diagonals between 100 and 150mm/s

Above that they mostly start to go away

On straight X and Y they’re much less present

[spiral narwhal]

Need to sort switching to UHF and fixing my motion system

Underextrusion near the top and a lot of wobble

[fallow swallow]

You can buy 4 bearings and 2 belts

And print a papilio lite

[spiral narwhal]

Perhaps lol

Uses the HGX hardware?

[spiral narwhal]

@fallow swallow

[delicate dirge]

It uses the HGX lite gears

https://kevinakasam.com/papilio-lite-build-instructions/