#Bed level not working SV06 Plus

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autumn girder
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the engine crosseed out button

atomic karma
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how do i turn them back on

autumn girder
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u have to home it

atomic karma
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bro
that just sent the gantry into the top of the frame

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cos it was at the top

autumn girder
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yeah

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it should come down

atomic karma
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it is
gonna home it again after
cos it didnt go to the end

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or should i carry on

autumn girder
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wdym it didnt go to the end

atomic karma
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it didnt go to the end of the x axis
cos it rammed into the top

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PID tune the bed. Ideally, all PID tuning should occur at the temperatures that you print most at.
PID_TEST_BED TEMP=70
SAVE_CONFIG (once completed)
PID tune the extruder while part cooling fan runs at 25%.
PID_TEST_HOTEND TEMP=245
SAVE_CONFIG (once completed)
Adjust z_offset. Make sure your nozzle if very clean. Do the Paper test.
DO_PROBE_CALIBRATE
Follow z_offset setup in Mainsail/Fluidd.
SAVE_CONFIG (once completed)
Create a bed mesh.
DO_CREATE_MESH
SAVE_CONFIG (once completed)

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what the fuck is PID tuning

autumn girder
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basically temp

atomic karma
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ah
how do i do this

autumn girder
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just send the PID_TEST_BED TEMP=60 into the console

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or whatever your usual printing temp is

atomic karma
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for pla its 60
for petg its 83

autumn girder
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i would recommend the higher temp

atomic karma
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yeah
gonna be doing a lot of PETG work soon

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@autumn girder
can i unplug my laptop when im not using it
gonna need to move my setup around to account for it
got no room

autumn girder
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when ur not using it, yeah sure

atomic karma
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oh nice
does the PID tuning just send it up to max temp
then back down a little and repeat

autumn girder
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it goes to the whatever temperature you set

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PID tuning is to make sure the temperature dont overshoot

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or undershoot

atomic karma
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oh nice

autumn girder
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basically make the temp just right

atomic karma
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so itll take a little while

autumn girder
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yeah

atomic karma
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what was kenobi on about with the z offset thing
i think he said something about how i can make it change depending on where the nozzle is

autumn girder
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huh

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idk

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after doing PID tuning, you do z offset

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which im doing currently

atomic karma
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your doing your z offset??

autumn girder
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yeah take a look at #1261411811752673321 lol

atomic karma
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oh goddam
that must have been a pain in the ass

autumn girder
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what is?

atomic karma
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should i wait for the bed to cool before doing the extruder PID test

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your issue

autumn girder
autumn girder
atomic karma
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nice
glad you got yours sorted
just need to get my bed level then imma be all set

autumn girder
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besides i kinda like tinkering

atomic karma
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i saved config before starting the extruder PID test

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and same here if im being honest
as guelling as this has been
its been a lot of fun

autumn girder
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So have you done the PID tuning and z offset?

atomic karma
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yeah
about to do bed mesh

autumn girder
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Oh alright

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Now let's actually see how bad it is

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Watch it be decently level, and it was just not using the bed somehow

atomic karma
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so i saved the config
and its not turning back on

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klipper state disconnected

autumn girder
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Just restart again or wait

atomic karma
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well i ran g28 after hitting do mesh so im not sure whats gonna happen

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oh nice
its getting ready for a mesh

atomic karma
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that would be funny as hell

autumn girder
atomic karma
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yep
its doing it now

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omfg its so fast

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fucking 3k accel

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also im not gonna get the screen to work
should i unplug it or just leave it

autumn girder
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i suggest leave it

atomic karma
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k

autumn girder
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and why not

atomic karma
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i cba

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8 hours of this shit

autumn girder
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cba?

atomic karma
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cant be assed

autumn girder
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oh lmfao

atomic karma
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cant be bothered

autumn girder
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i mean you dont have to do it now

atomic karma
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i might in the future

autumn girder
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you can do it later after getting the well deserved rest

atomic karma
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got some stuff to do today
no rest for me until its done

autumn girder
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so youre staying awake?

atomic karma
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yeah

autumn girder
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might as well go allthe way and fix ur sleep schedule

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keep urself awake till ur usual sleep time

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not medical advice*

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dont take my word

atomic karma
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shops close early today so i have to get out before they close
and im gonna try stay awake
cant promise i can lmao

autumn girder
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yeah i know its difficult lmao

atomic karma
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erm
ive just done the ABL and saved config
went to height map and its not there

autumn girder
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have to click defau;t

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on the right

atomic karma
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omfg

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its the bed

autumn girder
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send screenshot

atomic karma
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lmfao

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wtf

autumn girder
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omfg

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wtf

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@spring fern

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look at this

spring fern
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oh great

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more reading

atomic karma
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erm
fix it

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look at the mesh my dude

spring fern
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i dont believe this is an exact scale

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did u get this from pronterface results?

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wait

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thats klipper

atomic karma
autumn girder
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turn on scale gradient

spring fern
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click mesh

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another screenshot

atomic karma
spring fern
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and scaleyes

autumn girder
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holy shit

spring fern
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now

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do math

autumn girder
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1.7 mm range

spring fern
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0

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1.7 RANGE?

atomic karma
autumn girder
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can u also screenshot the right side

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it should have range in there

atomic karma
autumn girder
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i mean right side of the whole page

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mines also bad

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probably some x twist

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z tilt

atomic karma
spring fern
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here go back to marlin

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this dude got it down

autumn girder
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naaah

atomic karma
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ive already done that

spring fern
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he also beta tests sovol machines and makes custom firmware for them

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really

autumn girder
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no way u tell us to go back to marlin after 8 hours of installing klipper

atomic karma
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yeah
used my set square

spring fern
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LOL

atomic karma
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made sure it was all good

spring fern
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klipper can still compensate for that

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just gotta find the right lines of code to smack in the printer.cfg

autumn girder
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alright i go brb, got some stuff to do

atomic karma
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bet

spring fern
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@atomic karmago to klipper server and ask for advice on making the bed compensate for that mesh. they will harass u and bully u but also give u a good answer. or many answers. and many more questions as well. best of luck soldier.

atomic karma
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cheers guys

spring fern
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id help more but klipper is beyond my expertise. theres sooooooooo many different types of bed meshing. i ended up going with KAMP

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and then within KAMP there are more bed meshing codes u can add in.

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when i tried to setup kamp i got nothing but errors and then someone just linked me the guide and im like "dude im already following the guide i need help thats why i got this error i need help" and their like "well follow the guide!!!! ur obvisouly doing it wrong start over" and thats basically the kinda help u get over there.

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they will assist eventually u just have to be persistant with them

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and dont joke around. their so fucking serious over there

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fucker said "lose the attitude or im not helping u"

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all i said before that was "idk what that is"

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over and over to her questions and i had to keep googling them

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apparently "idk" is an attitude

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pisses me off

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fuckers

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and they dont tell u what to do. they juist keep linking u things and make u read all the documentation.

atomic karma
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oh goddam
sorry for dipping for a sec
sounds like a pain tbh
you got a link by chance

spring fern
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i have to DM it to u

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abbey or aubey or something like that was the one who helped me a lot

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still dont like her thughu. especially ESPECIALLY that one dude. forgot his name though. omg he always insulting my intelligence.

atomic karma
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lmfao
ive just put a message out so hopefully ill get an answer some time soon
anything i should do whilst i wait

spring fern
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be ready to link PRINTER.CFG files and stuff

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use '''

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when u coipy and paste it in

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the tilda key 3 times

atomic karma
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init

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sweet

spring fern
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and let me know how it progresses

atomic karma
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bet
how do i turn the laptop off properly

autumn girder
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shutdown -h now

atomic karma
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tyty
and just power it on when ready

autumn girder
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ye

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everything should automatically start

atomic karma
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lovely
you seen #✅|help-quick-questions message this
could that work or no

autumn girder
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what could work or no?

atomic karma
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taking the printer apart to bend the magnet

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well
either way
imma grab a power nap and get up in a few hours
ill catch yall later
thanks so much for your help @autumn girder
honestly been a lifesaver

autumn girder
atomic karma
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ahh fair

atomic karma
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cya

autumn girder
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cya

spring fern
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@atomic karmaoh, and if u type a command into linux to communicate with ur klipper controller. SUDO means override admin. or some shit like that. so if u get an error try typing in SUDO at the start of ur command. knowing this would have saved me $45 and 4 weeks of every day frustration.

autumn girder
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$45?

atomic karma
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Oh goddam

spring fern
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i bought an entire klipper extension board cuz my commands wernt working

autumn girder
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tf? klipper extension board?

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what is that

spring fern
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well $20 plus some fans to setup

autumn girder
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and for what

spring fern
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its to add other things. i added AUX fans to my setup

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i could have plugged them into the PI board but the linux wouldnt report back to me the pin OUTPUT and it wasnt documented online.

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4 weeks later im talking to some random on voron server and he said why didnt u jhust type "sudo"? and im like "what???" and i fucking did it and it worked im thinking "MOTHER FUCKER WHY DIDNT FUCKING GUIDE SAY THAT!!!!!!!!!" i was so pissed.

autumn girder
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for linux users that are already familiar, sudo is very obvious just saying

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that was like one of the earliest thing i learned about linux

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but yeah i understand ur frustration

spring fern
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and klipper server wouldnt help me with it. they said what im trying to setup up is "impossible". i went to voron server cuz i know their smart as fuck. and sure enough the first dude i speak to was able to help me set it up. ON TOP OF THAT he ended up being the one who designed that klipper expander board. i didnt even know til he finshed helping me set it up and im like holyyyyy crap his GITHUB page with its documentation actually matches his discord name hes not lying lol!

autumn girder
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what were u even trying to setup, and on what printer

spring fern
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ENDER 3 S1 PLUS aux fans

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cuz my cooling is DOGSHIT

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2 5015s horrible air flow

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i added 3 5015s in the back so i had 5

autumn girder
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damn thats alot

spring fern
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still wasnt enough!

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its the same concept as the sv07

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they have the aux fans on the Y axis blowing at the print. this is bascially what i setup

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very simliar.

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also it turned my printer into a legit heater. it was a horrible idea and awful experience. room heated so quickly. im sitting there sweating for no reason.

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autumn girder
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@atomic karma

atomic karma
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yoo

autumn girder
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okay first, ssh into the laptop

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then run ls /dev/serial/by-id/*

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what output do you get

atomic karma
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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

autumn girder
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oo check the printer.cfg

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in mainsail

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is serial: still set to that usb?

atomic karma
autumn girder
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no, just the printer.cfg

atomic karma
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where do i check
double click it

autumn girder
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yeah just click it once

atomic karma
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its still the same

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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-1a86_USB_Serial-if00-port0

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its that

autumn girder
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can u go to machines tab

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go here and download the klippy log file

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and send it to me

atomic karma
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failed

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error 404

autumn girder
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eh?

atomic karma
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{"error": {"code": 404, "message": "Not Found", "traceback": "Traceback (most recent call last):\n\n File "/home/frogman/moonraker-env/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tornado/web.py", line 1790, in _execute\n result = await result\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n File "/home/frogman/moonraker/moonraker/components/application.py", line 796, in get\n self.absolute_path = self.validate_absolute_path(\n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\n\n File "/home/frogman/moonraker-env/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tornado/web.py", line 2900, in validate_absolute_path\n raise HTTPError(404)\n\ntornado.web.HTTPError: HTTP 404: Not Found\n"}}

autumn girder
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uhh i suggest restarting firmware

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top right

atomic karma
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where

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what page

autumn girder
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in any page

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top right there should be a shut down icon

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click that, and click restart firmware

atomic karma
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bruh
i didnt even see that
my b

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went to bed earlier
fell asleep after 2 minutes

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not working
should i shut it down
then turn the printer on
then the laptop
then mainsail

autumn girder
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yeah sure

atomic karma
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still not working

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is there not a command to start klipper or something

autumn girder
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then idk, try reinstalling moonraker

atomic karma
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how do i bring the install menu up again

autumn girder
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?kiauh

uncut siloBOT
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https://github.com/dw-0/kiauh

The Klipper Installation And Update Helper is a exactly what it says. Its the easiest and most convenient way of getting a bare Klipper installation onto a host device and your printer. Check for an example configuration available for your machine. https://www.klipper3d.org/Example_Configs.html . The Klipper Configuration Reference provides further reading about setting up your configuration files. https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html

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autumn girder
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check the github

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also what timezone do you live in

atomic karma
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gmt

autumn girder
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just gmt?

atomic karma
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yeah
england

autumn girder
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ur in the uk?

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ah alr

atomic karma
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not working

autumn girder
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hmm dont really know then, maybe ask the klipper server

atomic karma
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k

atomic karma
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@spring fern
you arent wrong
theyre assholes

autumn girder
atomic karma
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the whole its a yes or no question

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tf

autumn girder
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eh, its just a slight annoyance that came through text

atomic karma
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@autumn girder
erm
the nozzle just dug itself into the bed

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autumn girder
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z offset is too low if it dug itself into the bed

atomic karma
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Idk
It was using an old mesh
I'll run another offset print tomorrow
Going to sleep

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atomic karma
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@autumn girder
i dont suppose you have any gcode i can use with klipper
half the gcode is just unknown commands

autumn girder
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What wdym

atomic karma
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most commands are unknown

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the flavour is set to klipper

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and that was from running a flow test

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oh and i kind of fixed the bed
just put some washers on the spacers

autumn girder
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Ooh very nice 👍

autumn girder
atomic karma
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rn its just m420
the other day it was like 90% of commands

autumn girder
autumn girder
atomic karma
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yeah

autumn girder
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can you show ur start gcode

atomic karma
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G90 ; use absoulte coordinates
M83 ; extruder relative mode

M104 S150 ; set nozzle temp to 150

G28 ; home all axes
M420 S1 ;load mesh

M140 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single] ; set bed temp
M190 S[bed_temperature_initial_layer_single] ; wait for bed temp to stabilize
M104 S[nozzle_temperature_initial_layer] ; set final extruder temp
M109 S[nozzle_temperature_initial_layer] ; wait for extruder temp

G1 X0.1 Y10 Z5.0 F1500 ; move to start position
G1 Z0.26 F150 ; Move lower
G4 S0.5 ; wait 0.5 seconds

G1 X0.1 Y150 Z0.3 F1500 E10 ; prime the nozzle
G1 X0.3 F1500
G1 X0.4 Y15 Z0.3 F1500 E15 ; prime the nozzle
G4 S0.1 ; wait 0.1 seconds

G1 Z0.6 F150 ; lift nozzle
G92 E0 ; Reset Extruder
G1 Z2 F150 ; lift nozzle more

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just default

autumn girder
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bruh

atomic karma
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what

autumn girder
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use the prusa slicer one

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it should be the same

atomic karma
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oh ok

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those 3 lines
thats the enite start code

autumn girder
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yep

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klipper macro will handle the rest

atomic karma
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goddam

autumn girder
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PRINT_START is a macro

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you can take a look at misc-config.cfg in the cfgs folder

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thats wehre PRINT_START is

atomic karma
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are they all the macros active

autumn girder
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wdym?

atomic karma
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idk how they work
so klipper just uses them as it needs?

autumn girder
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macros are basically shortcut, one button to do a series of task

atomic karma
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ohh ok

autumn girder
# atomic karma are they all the macros active

these ones you see on the macros panel you can activate manually by clicking on them altho some of them like load and unload filament you have to change the hotend temperature manually

atomic karma
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with that start gcode
will it load the latest bed mesh or no

autumn girder
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yeah it should

autumn girder
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you can also do adaptive bed meshing

atomic karma
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im not sure how to do that tbh

autumn girder
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basically before every print, it will auto level the bed, but only on the part of the bed that will be printed on

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i use KAMP for that, but ive heard klipper got it built in, so not really sure, but KAMP works fine for me

atomic karma
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oh ok
is that gonna be worth it for printing large prints
im gonna be using almost the entire bed

atomic karma
autumn girder
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if youre gonna be printing the entire bed, it probably means large print, might as well level it to lessen the chance of failure

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and it will only take a couple of minute

atomic karma
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oh nice
ill set that up at some point then
gonna calibrate my printer first though

atomic karma
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tyty
sorry for being a retard lmao

autumn girder
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lmao nah ur not

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atomic karma
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@autumn girder
hello
ive had some issues with my pc and have lost all my stuff due to a HDD fault
how would i set the printer up again
the laptop and printer are fine but i cant remember what to do

autumn girder
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Either scroll up the post and read from the beginning, or try to do it faster by actually following the guide

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I'm sure you can figure it out, if u have any questions just ask here

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Oh wait it's ur PC that broke?

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Yeah this one should be simple then, download the slicer and setup the printer

atomic karma
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just the hdd

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lost all my data

autumn girder
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Rip

atomic karma
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if im remembering correctly
i just need to setup terminus again right??

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like just copy the port id over and edit the mcu??

autumn girder
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You do if u want to mess with ur laptop on ur pc

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But if u just want to print then no

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But I would just get it

atomic karma
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yeah might as well
saves me having to install it if i have an issue with the laptop or something

autumn girder
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Did you clean install windows? Or whatever OS ur using

atomic karma
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yeah
i have a boot drive and a main drive
so i just wiped the pc
all that was on the boot drive was windows so its no problem

autumn girder
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Alright nice 👍

atomic karma
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yeah nvm
terminus saved the data even though i told it not to

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great

autumn girder
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Probably bcs it was saved on the account?

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Did you log in

atomic karma
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yeah

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yeah i did

autumn girder
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Yh that's probably why

atomic karma
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do i still need to get the port id and put that into mainsail when im wanting to print again
im just waiting on some callipers to tune my extruder

autumn girder
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Port for what

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The mainsail should just be your IP normally

atomic karma
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i thought you had to edit the MCU and put which port the printer is plugged into??

autumn girder
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Nah that's saved into the laptop

atomic karma
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ahh ok

autumn girder
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Mainsail is just a web UI to control the printer and klipper from other devices

atomic karma
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ahh ok ok
sweet
so when im ready to calibrate my printer ill setup mainsail
then i should be printing again

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thanks yet again for the help
your an actual life saver

autumn girder
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You should already have mainsail setupped

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Just have to access it in your PC by going to the browser and typing in your laptops ip

atomic karma
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oh ok
the browser i use doesnt require an account or anything so i didnt think it would save when i wiped the pc

autumn girder
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I mean what would it save

atomic karma
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the mainsail settings and stuff
but yeah
now i realise thats all on the laptop

autumn girder
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Yes

atomic karma
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sweet
well thanks again for the help
ill probably be back with another dumb question lmwo

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lmao

autumn girder
atomic karma
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erm
did you stand the build plate up when you ran the mesh??

autumn girder
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LOL

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no, its not mine fortunately

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just found it in #3d-printing

atomic karma
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ahh ok
thats funny as fuck

atomic karma
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thats an idea
you reckon i can print large things on my bed now that its not 1.8mm off??

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like something that takes the entire bed

autumn girder
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Sure, maybe do a test print first before actually printing the things you wanna print

atomic karma
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yeah good point
ill just size up a z offset square and print it
if it all comes out fine then i should be good to go