Klipper doesn't give a damn about the ABL probed mesh

[still dagger]

In the title. I do not know if it is compensating for something but it has nothing in common with the mesh that was probed. I DO load the mesh on print start. I am so done with this by now that if I can't find the solution the thing gets whacked with the hammer and gets thrown in the garbage.

[coral wigeon]

AI Help

It sounds like you may be experiencing issues with mesh compensation or loading the correct mesh for your 3D print. Make sure the correct mesh file is loaded before starting the print, and verify that your slicing software settings match the actual dimensions of the printed object. If you're still having trouble, I recommend checking forums for your specific printer or reaching out to customer support for troubleshooting assistance. Remember to stay calm and patient - we can tackle this issue together without resorting to extreme measures. Let me know if you need further assistance or have any other questions related to 3D printing!

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[dreamy obsidian]

what is your variance

[still dagger]

gimme a sec, I will test right now

Or you mean the mesh variance?

[dreamy obsidian]

mesh variance, should be on the height calibration you have there

[still dagger]

It is pretty awful

[dreamy obsidian]

you got a real taco

[still dagger]

Yeah that's why I bought a probe

[dreamy obsidian]

ok have you coded in g29 and is it in your start macro

[still dagger]

No, I only ran a calibration and saved the mesh. And I load it in START_PRINT section in klipper's printer.cfg

[dreamy obsidian]

the real power of klipper is your macros

[still dagger]

That's how it looks like

[dreamy obsidian]

so you save yours to specific names?

[still dagger]

yes, it is not "default". I've seen people saying it works weird so to be sure I save and load with a different name

[dreamy obsidian]

you do you, i leave mine as default, but everyone has their way.

i would switch to a g or m code as opposed to the actual command

but otherwise this all looks pretty good

based on the fact that it looks good id say your having an issue with z offset but thats a best guess

[still dagger]

z offset of the probe or the print or something else..?

[dreamy obsidian]

z offset referst to the distance of the nozzle to the bed when you set z to zero

im far from an expert as i have z offset issues myself lol

[still dagger]

I ran a z offset calibration test, gimme a sec to find the page

Ok I can't find the page on printables but I used this and z offset live adjust to find the sweetspot. The area of the bed I printed it on is the one looks the best in the photo I posted

Oh found it, this

https://www.printables.com/model/251587-stress-free-first-layer-calibration-in-less-than-5/files

[strange mesa]

you have a am6 mesh at the bottom of your config? i dont know how klipper is on loading meshes if you havent run save_config recently as well

[dreamy obsidian]

oh i just print a square at layer height and adjust lol

[still dagger]

This is the only mesh I got and yeah it is there

[strange mesa]

just to verify its calling the start macro from the slicer right? and did you set/get the probe offsets

[still dagger]

Yes and yes

[strange mesa]

probe on the left side almost in line with the x?

what printer as well, x gantry could be a factor, but thats not what im seeing

[still dagger]

It was a cheapo Anet A6, but rebuilt for 2020 extrusion

[still dagger]

Yeah the probe is almost in line with the nozzle on X

[strange mesa]

hmm, you leveled the x gantry yourself? just to get that out of the way

[still dagger]

Yes. I brought it almost to the top by Z, disengaged the motors and rotated both screws by hand up until the gantry touches the top brackets on both sides

[strange mesa]

try it in the reverse, from the bed/frame, closer to where you want to calibrate

[still dagger]

Give me a few, will try now

[strange mesa]

also take something square and try to see if the extrusions going up are square, easiest to check from the front then the back to see if its off

and the offset looks like it could get a little lower to help with it

[still dagger]

You mean square to the base?

[strange mesa]

yeah\

[still dagger]

which one?

[strange mesa]

z offset, make the nozzle push the filament into the bed a little more

if this doesnt fix it my next/last guess offhand is x axis twist, moving the hotend left to right rotates it slightly, havent followed the documentation on how to fix but i know its a thing

https://www.klipper3d.org/Axis_Twist_Compensation.html

[still dagger]

The extrusions are dead on, releveled the X gantry as per your suggestion

bed level time?

I mean manual. Or can I just skip it?

[strange mesa]

bed level variance under 0.5 should be fine, something else seems to be the problem

mesh made when the bed was hot as well?

[still dagger]

YEah sure

[still dagger]

I mean now that I adjusted X it might be not parallel to the bed

[strange mesa]

yeah, i make a new mesh every print so i forget to remesh

[still dagger]

Also, this was during the last time I tried to make a new mesh

probe trash?

also seen ppl say the z couplers may be the culprit but idk

[still dagger]

Thanks for this btw, will try it

[strange mesa]

.005 is normal, that jumps .013 or so, should be workable, though not exact

[still dagger]

so no good then? It is twice as off as it should be

almost thrice

[strange mesa]

.005 is expected, .013 is workable, wont get perfect first layers, but should be better than this

[still dagger]

I will try the axis twist thing now, hope this helps..

[still dagger]

So I tried this and somehow now the calibration process got way more reliable with fewer retries. I also noticed The retries happen more frequently at the back of the bed. nonetheless, here's the new mesh it generated and I have no clue on what to make of it =/

[strange mesa]

you tried a print with it to test?

[still dagger]

No, I am afraid I will damage something ._.

Also, is there a way to make Z homing similar to bed probing? Like where it retries and uses the median value and such?

[strange mesa]

samples:x under probe https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_Reference.html#probe

[still dagger]

Yeah it works only when probing, not when homing

I installed this https://github.com/matthewlloyd/Klipper-Stable-Z-Home but it just reruns the homing command and has no parameters like sample_retract_dist and speed which really help to get accurate probing results.

[strange mesa]

im not aware of a way to do so when homing, another reason to just make a new mesh every print

[still dagger]

Seems too long. I homed using this plugin and will remesh now, just to see if it is any different

[strange mesa]

look into KAMP instead, meshes the used areas instead of the whole thing

[still dagger]

I want to make sure it gets applied properly first, and then sure this is the way to go

Looks way better now

Also, it is almost the same as the previous one in terms of the shape so we have some consistency

[still dagger]

Same result.

The thing is going to the garbage. I am done.

I don't care if that's kinematics or software or both. I am just gonna smash every part of it and never ever attempt to print again.

Thank you for trying to help tho @strange mesa I really appreciate that.

[strange mesa]

if it helps the thing is probably still a fire hazard if its the old power supply anyways, ill play a 21 gun salute on my kazoo

[still dagger]

Yeah we destroy any hazards here so the thing will never endanger anyone. I always suspected it was against liberty and democracy