#Coming back to my Ender 3

1 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

prisma sunBOT
#
AI Help

I'd be happy to help you with leveling the bed of your Ender 3 and setting up Blender and Cura for modeling and slicing. Here's a step-by-step guide:

  1. Leveling the bed of your Ender 3:
  • Make sure your printer is turned on and preheated.
  • Move the nozzle close to each corner of the bed using the control panel or jog controls.
  • Place a piece of paper on the bed and adjust the bed height (using the bed leveling knobs) until you can feel a slight resistance when moving the paper between the nozzle and the bed.
  • Repeat this process for all corners, ensuring the bed is evenly leveled.
  1. Setting up Blender for modeling:
  • Download and install the latest version of Blender from the official website.
  • Open Blender and familiarize yourself with the user interface and basic controls.
  • You can find various tutorials and resources online to learn how to model objects in Blender.
  1. Setting up Cura for slicing:
  • Download and install the latest version of Cura from the official websit...
WARNING: This response is AI generated and may contain errors.
sleek jetty
#

How do I remove filament

#

Shot

#

*shit

#

@prisma sun how do I remove filament

wary basin
#

ok. so lets start at the begining! please can i get a picture or two of the current state of your printer

sleek jetty
#

alrighty

wary basin
#

ok now can i seed if you have nobs under the bed?

#

is it on springs or spacers

sleek jetty
#

It was SUPER dusty when I got it back out, I cleaned it as well as I could

wary basin
#

yay nobs great - and yeah you may wanna hoover it off a bit later

#

ok so lets begin with that filament

sleek jetty
#

Yeah, ik it has to be removed

wary basin
#

power on the system, and navigate to your menu on the lcd -

menu - prepare - preheat pla

sleek jetty
#

Done

wary basin
#

once it goes nice and toasty (it might stink prepare yourself) use the release lever to push a bit of filament out the nozzle then yank the filament out

sleek jetty
#

I'm assuming that one heats up both

#

I'll take the silence as a yes

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

oooh is it bowden feed

#

ignore my previous message then

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

ah nvm sorry

#

ok - your machine is a differnt colour lever to what im used too lmao so i didnt reconise it

#

yes the part with the spring is the lever

#

you should be able to push a little bit- then pull out

sleek jetty
#

Oh I didn't push it farther in first, I just pulled and it all came out

#

It had a little stringy bit at the end kinda like how hot glue does

#

Oh no

wary basin
#

oof not great but we can work with it

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

yay perfect! thats what we want to see

sleek jetty
#

Wait rly-

wary basin
#

yep indicates your extruder may not be clogged

sleek jetty
#

Oh neat

#

Now what

#

Also the filament roll is kinda dusty too

wary basin
#

now remove the booger from the extruder, and then we will begin tramming your bed - then leveling it

#

how old is the roll - and where was it stored

sleek jetty
#

Uhmm

wary basin
#

not the place - but like dry? dusty/ damp etc

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

honestly id send it off for recycling

sleek jetty
#

You're kidding me

wary basin
#

however for this what we can do. is pull off about 2 meters.

#

cut it clean at both ends then run it through a cloth a few times to clean it off

#

yep - filament not stored in a sealed bag/ box for a long period of time is going to cuase you nothing but problems

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

4 feet ish

#

also is that PLA?

sleek jetty
#

Yes

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

ok good - you can replace it for like 10-20 usd so its not a major loss tbh

#

4 feet will do

#

its only to have some for a test

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

in that case we will look at ways to salvage it.

sleek jetty
#

There's no way to decontaminate it-

#

Oh good

wary basin
#

but dust is a MAJOR issue to run through your printer, so avoid it where possible

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

I advise asking for some roll bags for christmas

#

but that aside

sleek jetty
#

What about large sandwich bags

sleek jetty
#

Lmao

wary basin
#

if the roll can fit - that will work perfect as tbh thats what a roll bag is

sleek jetty
#

Not sandwich bags

#

Plastic zip up bags

wary basin
#

i know what ya ment - like freezer ziplok bags

sleek jetty
#

Ok, so cut off about 4 feet?

wary basin
#

yeah - its a bit overkill but it will do the benchy

sleek jetty
#

Also remember we haven't leveled it yet

wary basin
#

i knowxD

sleek jetty
#

Lmao

wary basin
#

im running through the easy stuff before i get busy and have delays in answering

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

now. What i would LIKE to do, is send you a link to the instalation guide and leveling instructions. and have you contact me if it doesnt work/ you struggle - as this will help you learn.

if however you would prefer to just be talked through the procedure i can do that

sleek jetty
#

He's about 4 feet tall

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

okies ill send the link now too - and ofc just @ me if you need anything at all

#

im here to help

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

ok0 so lower the head till you CANT move the paper

#

then move back up one notch (usualy .02) till it moves but there is some resistance

#

you want to feel like it moves, but being rough is gonna rip it

sleek jetty
#

Gotcha, I'm in the first corner rn

wary basin
#

perfect!

sleek jetty
#

From what I understood, I put it in the center, and lowered the Z axis to 0, then tried to move it, and it moved but it was hard to, then I raised it, moved to a corner, and lowered it back to 0, the I'm raising/lowering the corner of the bed for the right amount of resistance between the paper and nozzle

#

@wary basin?

wary basin
#

no, ignore the center for now

sleek jetty
#

But I'm right about keeping the nozzle at the lowest it'll go, then raising/lowering the corner to see how the paper feels

wary basin
#

so move to a corner.

move to touch, and record it. set the offset back to zero - raise the head 1mm on z - move to next corner, move to touch, and then either lower or raise to the first measurement you wrote down - repeat for all corners.

I:E

2 - - - 3
| |
| |
1 - - - 4

1 = -1.32

move to 2, ( set off set to 0, move with Y to 2 - lower and adjust to 1.32)
move to 3 ( set off set to 0, move with X to 3 - lower and adjust to 1.32)
move to 4 ( ( set off set to 0, move with Y to 4 - lower and adjust to 1.32)

#

I personaly dont like ym offfset lower than -1.5 so if it is i usualy raise that first corner up to around 1.5

sleek jetty
#

One problem...

#

W A T

wary basin
#

lol ok
so after yo9u check the corner 1 (bottom left) and write down the offset you got with the paper

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

set the offset back to 0 - then go check the corner bottom right or top left (your choice) but if bottom right DO NOT MOVE THE Y. if Top left DO NOT MOVE THE X

sleek jetty
#

I'm just turning a nob

wary basin
#

oooooh so it is setting it to 0?

#

oooh ok even easier

#

(havent worked on a Ender 3 before)

#

ok ok

sleek jetty
#

My brain is melting as we speak

#

While you give directions is it alright if I go eat real quick

#

I'll take my phone with me tho

wary basin
#

so move to a corner.

move to touch, then to next corners

I:E

2 - - - 3
| |
| |
1 - - - 4

move to 2, ( raise Z 1mm move with Y to 2)
move to 3 (raise Z 1mm, move with X to 3)
move to 4 ( (raise Z 1mm, move with Y to 4)

#

take your time its all good

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

as in move the nob till the paper is touching

sleek jetty
#

Gotcha

wary basin
#

just remember to always lower the head back to zero after you raise it to move

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

yep just no need to keep going back to center

#

unless i misread what you ment

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

so you want the paper to move freely, but it feels tight. like pushing a door with a silicone seal on it-

sleek jetty
#

Okie dokie

#

Whilst I'm eating lunch, I'll go ahead and let you know that I've downloaded blender and cura already

#

I've never used blender before, but I HAVE used cura (I don't remember anything tho)

wary basin
#

I would personaly advise against cura

#

and would push prusa or orcaslicer

sleek jetty
#

Okayyy???

#

The reason I was gonna use Cura...

#

So basically, my grandparents have this neighbor across the street who had a 3D printer, and that's what he said to use, he also said to use fusion 360 for modeling and stuff

wary basin
#

ok so cura is fine, but pretty basic. fusion 360 is fantastic but your gonna need a ton of tutorials as its a full cadcam program

#

blender works great and is what i mostly use, and can also be used for other things - but if your gonna be making parts or mechanical items f360 is gonna be better. or solvespace

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

cadcam - computer aided design computer aided manufacturing

sleek jetty
#

Ah

wary basin
#

its a little duanting but there are alot of good tutorials and its a fantastic skill to have if you want to get into engineering or that side of design

sleek jetty
#

For now I think I'll just use what I have installed

wary basin
#

well im gonna be telling you to install orca slicer regardless of if youl use cura lmao

#

as it will be the final steps of setting up your printer

sleek jetty
#

Oh

#

sigh

#

@wary basin Are you sure about this?

wary basin
#

yep its what i personaly use

#

give me that github link

sleek jetty
#

aight, imma install it then

#

While it's installing, Imma finish leveling

wary basin
#

perfect. once you have trammed the bed- we can run the first test

sleek jetty
#

Done

sleek jetty
#

@wary basin for the first test, are we by any chance printing a cube?

wary basin
#

nope. the firsty test will be this

sleek jetty
#

What do I do with the file, bring it to the printer?

#

@wary basin⁉️

wary basin
#

that file is what you load into the slicer your planning to constantly use

#

resize it to your bed if its a bit too big, then print it

sleek jetty
#

Actually idk how to use this lol

wary basin
#

okies are you going to use cura or orca?

#

(i mean for normal things not the tests)

sleek jetty
#

I uninstalled cura, and installed orca

#

Isn't that rather thin? Couldn't we do like, cubes, or short cubes?

wary basin
#

its ment to be thin xD

sleek jetty
#

I'm just afraid it'll be hard to remove lol

wary basin
#

now print it

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

use a scraper for that

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

its a level test, so they are super thin to test first layer

sleek jetty
#

Gotcha

wary basin
#

ok hit the slice button at the top right

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

yeah you can use the resize icon to shrink it

#

click one of the green squares to select it. then up in the top bar there is a resize option

#

click the top right corner and drag in

#

it will resize and position it for you

sleek jetty
#

Done

wary basin
#

cool print that and see how it goes

#

or call it for the day and pick up tomorrow if its late for you - I myself will be going to bed soon

sleek jetty
#

I started it, but had to quickly abort because I never put the filament back in 🤦‍♂️

#

Also how do I put the filament back in

wary basin
#

thats a good question, let me see

sleek jetty
#

Wait, something tells me the end of my filament is supposed to be pointy/a triangle

wary basin
#

thats a product of debate. some people like ti pointy

#

i prefer it straight. but for now lets cut it again at an angle to make it a point

sleek jetty
#

K

wary basin
#

then turn on preheat pla again

#

and then push the filament in and keep pushing it till a bit comes out of the nozzle

#

and its loaded

sleek jetty
#

It keeps coming out of the nozzle

#

Yeah filament is slowly coming out

#

I think I fixed it tho

#

Ok NOW there's another problem

#

I pressed auto home, now the Z axis says -1, and it's this low!!!!

IMG_4641.jpg
#

Did I accidentally press something?

#

Cuz when I pressed auto home it was so low it started moving again the side of the bed! I was absolutely terrified watching it I thought it was gonna break

#

I seem to ruin everything 😣

#

Wait, did I accidentally press "set home offsets"

#

@wary basin I think I'll quit for today, if you need to tell me anything DM it to me, and I'll look at it tomorrow

#

I've been doing this for 6 hours...

#

Kill me

sleek jetty
#

@wary basin Mornin

wary basin
#

Oops I missed that ping, my apologies

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

oh no, I do hope your ok*

sleek jetty
#

i just cut my finger open, but im fine

#

alrighty, what should i do

wary basin
#

ok so the last I saw the home is under the bed correct?

sleek jetty
#

yes, im not sure how that happened!?!?

wary basin
#

ok go to your console

#

control - bed leveling - z offset - set that to zero

#

then home all axis

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

O.o

sleek jetty
#

Will it be in "motion"

wary basin
#

try in motion

sleek jetty
#

Wait wait wait wait wait

#

It no longer lets Z go below 0

#

And it's right here

IMG_4653.jpg
#

WAT

#

WAAAAT

wary basin
#

home all axis 5 times, and write down where the z is each time please

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
#

Ok, I did it once, it started going so low the cube that the nozzle is attached to started pushing the bed a little

#

Ok, it did the same thing again, but when it started touching the bed, it went up on it's own and slowly lowered until it was perfectly flat with the bed (the cube thing)

#

Hang on lemme get a picture

#

Also, I've looked back in settings and the only thing about offsetting is "set home offsets"

wary basin
#

ok turn one corner knob a full turn. 1 at a time till you compress the bed under the nuzzle height. then do the same number of turns on the other corners

#

ok, before that have a look at the set home offsets

sleek jetty
#

Press it?

wary basin
#

yep see what happens

sleek jetty
#

I pressed it, it beeped, and went back to the info screen

#

Ok

#

Hang on

wary basin
#

interesting. go to the main screen and see what it syas the nozzle height is

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

ok manualy raise the z up +1

#

till its slightly above the board

#

then presse the set home offsets again

#

then run the leveling procedure again

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

yep

#

if the bed hasnt moved it wont be much work

sleek jetty
#

😫

#

@wary basin Hey, after I do the offset for the Z axis, it lets me go below zero. Wouldn't it make more sense to lower it as far as possible, set that to be zero, then lower the whole bed until it's level for that?

sleek jetty
#

@wary basin?

wary basin
#

yes and no - before we lower the bed its just a trouble shooting exorcise first

#

as you dont really want to over tension the springs

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

cool! im clocking off for the night - let me know how it goes and ill get back to you in the morning

sleek jetty
#

Okie dokie, later

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
#

@wary basin You busy?

wary basin
#

cooking but i can respond, how did the lowering go?

sleek jetty
#

Perfect, but whenever I press auto home it still ends up below the bed

wary basin
#

even after lowering the bed? ok let me look into that

#

ok sweet. your switch is indeed t nuts not hold positioned

#

hard*

#

ok we have a simple solution to this

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

its ok i figured out the issue ❤️

sleek jetty
#

Ooookie dokie

wary basin
#

tighten your bed knobs up till the springs are halfway compressed

#

raise the z manualy, then move it till the extruder is center Y and X

#

after that, lower it till the paper test as usual in the center

#

once all thats done.

loosed then allen bolts on the switch on the left Z gantry and raise it up till it clicks. then tighten it up - and then re level your bed

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

yep looks good

sleek jetty
#

I'm pretty sure I fixed it lmao

wary basin
#

Sounds like you lowered it enough

#

It was the limit switch

sleek jetty
#

Oh wait this?

#

Ok now I get it

#

All it needed was a little 'Merican ingenuity 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅💥💥🦅💥🇺🇸

wary basin
#

Yep

sleek jetty
#

Lmao

wary basin
#

Sometimes raising that up can fix most of it

sleek jetty
#

Alright, is it time for the first print

#

I've already got it saved on the thingy

wary basin
#

Goodluck

sleek jetty
#

🫡

#

It's heating...

#

It's lifted up 50mm...

#

Still heating...

#

IT'S GOING

#

AHHHHH

#

This may take a minute so Imma go watch Star Wars

#

@wary basin Ok it's done

wary basin
#

OK, what did you print?

sleek jetty
#

Uhhhh

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

Ok

#

What on earth. Dud you level it again, after moving the bed?

sleek jetty
#

Yeah

wary basin
#

And is that filament wet??

sleek jetty
#

Lemme try again ig 😑

wary basin
#

Wait

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

What temp did you print it at?

sleek jetty
#

It was done a couple minutes ago

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

.... what's the settings in the slicer?

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

... OK reload the stl, set it to print at 180

#

Bed at 55

#

Also check your retraction distance and your flow rate

sleek jetty
#

Bruh how do I clean this lol

#

The booger hanging from the nozzle is connected to the bottom right square

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
sleek jetty
#

@wary basin dude this is a complete disaster

#

Lmao

#

How do I clean this gunk off the bed

wary basin
#

I did not realise you did not know how to set your filament I. A slicer

#

You should have a scraper, to carefully remove it

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
sleek jetty
wary basin
#

Nah you want it hard to "pop" off easier

#

Do you have a pei plate? A magnetic flexible sheet on there?

sleek jetty
#

It's too small to "pop", it's stuck

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

Then youl need to carefully scrape it with a wallpaper scraper

#

Ah it's most likely a glass plate then

sleek jetty
#

Listen

#

Yeah it ain't comin off

#

The other side of this feels like a really smooth plastic tho

#

@wary basin this is the same thing that happened when I first started with the printer 4 years ago, I printed something and it left a horrible residue on the bed cover

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

I'm somewhat concerned by the filament tbh, the fact is was hanging out like that from the nozzle, and how badly it was not retracting

#

It very much seems like that filament needs recycling and replacing asap

sleek jetty
sleek jetty
#

I'm really pissed tbh

#

It's been almost a week and there's still problems

#

I'm starting to want to give up

wary basin
#

Don't give up, these are very common issues and part of the hobby, as you fix issues others may appear, but the end result is a machine working that you can have genuine pride in knowing you got working.

#

So we are going to start from the beginning here

First you need to clean that bed off. Use a wallpaper scraper or something you can scrape with (a car ice scraper can work) and be gentle with tour bed

#

Once the bed is clean, we can look at the basic settings we are going to print your level test with

sleek jetty
wary basin
#

Yep it's gonna be a pain. Youl have to work slowly and carefully, it may take a few hours to get it clean