Bc more I’m thinkin bout it
#60he community modding
glacial harbor
asa are a really nice profile in my opinion
minor kettle
🤣🤣 Pain cause of my purchases lately
velvet spindle
I wanna do this but I'd never use them
minor kettle
😂 Cause its a pity to even lay your fingers on them. Its purely just for your eyes satisfaction 😂
willow gate
for those who want to have a different option from the tofu60 case
there is the freebird60
willow gate
Gonna try out an FR4 plate for when I get the 60he to see how bad flex can be for hall effect
hybrid rapids
1.8m
stark jay
yo @minor kettle - I typically don't like RGB but this makes me rethink buying my Black TOFU60 case and getting an arcylic one. Looks so good.
dusk bridge
Having trouble deciding on what color tofu60 to get for my 60he black white or dark purple what do u guys think
Heres what the purple looks like
glacial harbor
what keycaps are you thinking about getting?
dusk bridge
lusty pond
IF you are opening and filming your switches please double check to make sure your switch housing is fully clipped together, I was having a hard time putting the switches back in the steel and brass plate and I couldn't wrap my head around it the last 30 minutes, so don't be like me a fool who put their switches back together poorly 🤣
glacial harbor
IF you are opening and filming your switches please double check to make sure yo...
can u give a sound test of your keyboard? i'd love to hear it
willow gate
https://drop.com/buy/drop-mito-gmk-serenity-custom-keycap-set?defaultSelectionId...
Drop isn’t the only vendor that sells keycaps, and GMK also isn’t your only option for well made keycaps
Check out keycaps manufactured by infinikey
They offer some nice colourways and also in PBT
dusk bridge
Ok thanks
dusk bridge
Ok thanks ill check them out
willow gate
Or maybe even IFK monochrome for those that like katakana sublegends
willow gate
1.8m
Sort of related, but what plate materials has been tested for the 60he? And which ones has caused the most issues with key press registration due to flex?
dusk bridge
Or maybe even IFK monochrome for those that like katakana sublegends
I like the IFK 4800ks there simple but look good
willow gate
That would look nice with a purple case
willow gate
I like the IFK 4800ks there simple but look good
Forgot to say, but there is another reputable vendor
Cannonkeys
Way more colourways
A choice of PBT or ABS cherry profile keycaps
There is also Kineticlabs, a vendor for polycaps
I like polycaps seal, but they’re out of stock right now
dusk bridge
Im lookin for something like this but black on white
willow gate
Im lookin for something like this but black on white
Yea, very unlikely to find unless you scour the whole of aliexpress
dusk bridge
Yeah im just gonna go with the IFK 4800ks
willow gate
Even so, still very unlikely you’ll fund BoW katakana only keycaps
willow gate
No worries, just make sure you don’t look too in depth into the keyboard hobby
dusk bridge
What do u mean too in depth
willow gate
Bad wording, was meant to say don’t get into the custom keyboard hobby
Money and patience, all is wasted in this hobby. Because you’re always left wanting more after each build
dusk bridge
Oh ok 👍
glacial harbor
Money and patience, all is wasted in this hobby. Because you’re always left want...
I mean some people really enjoy the hobby and don't mind spending time or money on something they enjoy
just like any other hobby
autumn smelt
https://a.co/d/03TcTLV would these fit wooting?
autumn smelt
And every hobby is expensive
mice and mousepads especially
willow gate
there's no exception for costs for hobbies, and when I say every hobby, I really mean it
and yea, mouse and mousepads can get expensive of course, for example the Zaunkoenig M2K
and then you have audio stuff where people spend upwards of $350usd
for a single cable for their IEMs
glacial harbor
https://a.co/d/03TcTLV would these fit wooting?
yes
willow gate
has akko stopped copying sets from other designers yet? haven't looked at them for a while
velvet spindle
has akko stopped copying sets from other designers yet? haven't looked at them f...
Please tell me what their Tokyo world tour is based off
willow gate
not sure, I don't pay attention to the keycap scene to know what set is which, but there was enough controversy for me to even know about it
I know that their Neon keycap set is a stolen design
red and blue samurai is very blatent too
autumn smelt
Lol who cares
glacial harbor
exactly
upper mist
For anyone who grabbed one of the Tofu60 cases, does the keyboard still fit in the 60HE travel case?
velvet spindle
@upper mist depends on how much it eats
velvet spindle
upper mist
Ooh on that bicycle
willow gate
Lol who cares
It is quite silly yes, but for some keycap set designers it is quite annoying
glacial harbor
It is quite silly yes, but for some keycap set designers it is quite annoying
the designers overprice the keycaps by quite a bit. If people want to buy knockoff ones, let them, it doesn't matter. It's like buying a replica pair of expensive shoes, you buy cheaper at the expense of being called out for having a fake pair. at the end of the day, it's not a big deal
willow gate
Fair argument, it’s the way that keycaps are sold that drives the prices up
If there was a constant supply of any gmk keycap set, then prices would definitely be around the prices that Akko are selling their sets for
Keycaps to GMK are only a side hustle to bring in more money, where their actual profit lay in producing industrial peripherals
glacial harbor
oh i see, interesting
in one hand, i see how it's bad but it also makes the sets more available to people that like the colorway and designs of a certain set but can't spend the large amount of money
mystic blaze
for 80 eur, there is an akko keyboard which has akko cs jelly switches (90 switches 40€) and akko doubleshot pbt keycaps (keycaps are between 40-50€ alone)
but for 80 eur you get those and plus pcb - plate - foam - stabs - case
and they are exactly the same, they even give the keycaps which are not on the board in the box
and similar pcb is 40 to 60 eur
I can understand it being more expensive if you diy, but that is too much of a difference to justify...
willow gate
in one hand, i see how it's bad but it also makes the sets more available to peo...
A lot of people in this loathe the limited runs of items like keycaps and keyboard kits, most only only having one run and very uncommonly two runs before the item is never in production again
Which contributes to scalping at nearly 5-8 times the original price in the aftermarket for popular keycap sets, GMK darling for example
Someone today bought this set for $875
And this was a set that ran back in 2020
I know it is not that easy at times, but I feel like if there was a little communication between designers and the manufacturers like Akko, a lot of the issues could be avoided
Even if it is at the cost of the things being rare and unique
hazy sentinel
gmk wob is the only gmk set i bought because it was on sale
pbtfans seems like a great alternative
willow gate
good choice, can't go wrong with white on black
but be sure just to make sure you're typing or using your keyboard with clean hands just to be sure to not shine the keycaps as much if you care about that
The leaf spring mount from the Wilba.Tech Salvation that I was talking about earlier
love how thick the bezels of the case sides are, however not a big fan of the back design, looks pretty plain
velvet spindle
The leaf spring mount from the Wilba.Tech Salvation that I was talking about ear...
UwU
willow gate
it is a pretty expensive kit for a 60% ngl
$295 euros
But I am assuming that it comes from the unique manufacturing procedures that they'd have to follow
I believe the designer, Salvun. Is going to do the manufacturing themselves due to the unique mounting style
willow gate
oh right, this keyboard is only a groupbuy product, a groupbuy that started last year, and still hasn't shipped
the only hope of getting this case is from either the aftermarket when some people don't want the board anymore, or if there are any extras left
hybrid rapids
Which plate is that and how did you connect it with the PCB?
willow gate
that would be a copper plate the sold by Drop, unsure of the plate thickness
willow gate
Which plate is that and how did you connect it with the PCB?
I was going over Badseedtech's video on the 60he to see where the standoffs are for between that plate and pcb. Are the areas that I marked correct? And is the fixture screwed in? Or semi-permanent?
I don't have the board since I ordered the ARM version, hence as to why I am asking due to not knowing what the assembly of the pcb and plate looks like
comparing the drop carino copper plate and the stock steel plate, it seems like the copper plate has no stand offs in between the pcb and plate
would that be an issue for key distance registration?
inland hornet
Just bought a blade60. I like the angles lol. What's stabs are you guys planning on running?
willow gate
Well there are very little options for plate mount stabs so durock v2 plate mount would yield the best results
hybrid rapids
I was going over Badseedtech's video on the 60he to see where the standoffs are ...
You can find them all on the 3D design file. Your picks look somewhat correct, few are orientation pins. I’d need to check a physical model to double check
willow gate
I was linked to a github repository and could only find the 2d drawings
I don’t have any autocad software to view actual 3d models, so I’m kind of limited
Would appreciate some photos of a disassembled 60he to see what the plate and pcb looks like from both sides
glacial harbor
my coiled cable isn't working at all with my keyboard, anyone have a fix for this?
glacial harbor
nvm :) got it working somehow
deft warren
Hello fellow modders, my 60he is on the way. I have already purchased a tofu60 to do the case swap, but I was wondering if anyone has experience or has experimented with the stabs? Are they good enough to holee and lube and call it a day, or would you guys recommend third party stabs (and if so, any recommendations)? As I’m sure some of you can relate to, I like to go pretty all in on my builds, but this is my first 60 (I have like 3 65s tho) so I’m not sure about the stabilizers. Thanks!
lusty pond
@hybrid rapids What I did was buy 4mm spacers/standoffs since my brain said “ Oh the foam is 4 mm thick” so I bought these:
The red circles Represent holes for the standoffs that were welded onto the original plate, The blue is the universal Case mount holes, I tested all the keys yesterday and everything looks great/rapid trigger, I didn’t test analog Otherwise I’m very satisfied with the result
lusty pond
I was linked to a github repository and could only find the 2d drawings
Yeah looks like only 2D files are available for the 60 HE
rotund ravine
Hello fellow modders, my 60he is on the way. I have already purchased a tofu60 t...
Stock stabs are quite good and well lubed compared to just about any stock stabs you'd get with a keyboard. Having said that, cleaning and relubing made a big difference. I still got some rattle left space bar despite tuning.
I threw in some Drop/Gateron Phantoms which is (maybe?) better
My true recommendation if they ever come back in stock are the NK plate mounts. In my opinion the goated option as far as plate mount stabs go.
If you're just gonna keep the stock stabs, I'd still recommend doing the clipping, bandaid the PCB and plate, and relube.
deft warren
If you're just gonna keep the stock stabs, I'd still recommend doing the clippin...
Awesome, thanks so much for the detailed response. I’ll mod the stock ones out when they get here and see if they’re good. Thanks!
rotund ravine
What do you use for lube for the stabs?
velvet spindle
lube
rotund ravine
Yeah, I was gonna say, I though I was getting flagged for a bad word or something
The stock stabs look like they just have dialectic grease on the wire only
velvet spindle
Yanno, sometimes i get surprised how quick aliexpress can be
rotund ravine
Nothing really on the stab stem itself
deft warren
Yeah I have 205g0 for switches and then I use 105 for springs but I would not use 105 on the stabs ever lol
deft warren
Interesting
Never used 206g0 but I’m still fairly new to customs so I will look into it
Thanks!
rotund ravine
It's more viscous so hold the wire better, but same compound as 205, so over time plays nice if it does mix into each other
velvet spindle
60he community modding
willow gate
The red circles Represent holes for the standoffs that were welded onto the orig...
Wait, welded? As in welded with solder or some other filler metal?
Did you grind it away or something?
lusty pond
Wait, welded? As in welded with solder or some other filler metal?
The standoffs on the original steel plate are welded/stuck and not unscrewable
They are m2 holes (8 of them on the back of the plate)
The 8 standoffs provides support for the keyboard to function properly
If you remove your wooting 60 he out of the case (5 holes from the front, middle hole has no screw) there is 8 silver screws keeping the PCBA together with the plate
Those are the red circles
When you take it apart you will see the standoffs behind the plate
lusty pond
Wait, welded? As in welded with solder or some other filler metal?
To answer your question yes, welded/melted idk lmao, they definitely didn’t look like they were part of a mold on my plate
willow gate
What method did you use to remove the plate from the pcb?
hybrid rapids
<@162050103245275136> What I did was buy 4mm spacers/standoffs since my brain sa...
The plate was custom made then? i.e. you need the specific holes for the spacers to be installed. It's interesting you found these sizes stock - in early development considered this mounting method, but it'd introduce more variances and cost for mass production. tacking on the standoff was much more efficient at larger quantities.
Very intrigued btw, I'm thinking if it might be worth opening up a guide on how to DIY this for people wanting to customize.
lusty pond
What method did you use to remove the plate from the pcb?
a screwdriver/Screw bit kit
willow gate
The plate was custom made then? i.e. you need the specific holes for the spacers...
Would be great if the mount between the plate and pcb wasn’t semi permanent, but like you implied, there would be more issues with switch distance registration if it were so
A little confused on how the plate that is proprietary to this board is cheaper to produce and use than to copy the design of a dz60 or similar 60% plate
lusty pond
The plate was custom made then? i.e. you need the specific holes for the spacers...
The plate is not custom made but I recently got a quote for a brass/aluminum from Xometry and of course… it’s freaky expensive especially with shiny finish 
@willow gate mentioned above I believe the plate I used, They were correct, the plate I used was Carina Drop plate 60%, Amazon reviews says the plate doesn’t work with tofu BUT I was very determined (lol) to find the other answer and I stumbled upon a brass plate tofu build on YouTube of a person swapping out the kbdfans brass plate for the Carina brass using removable standoffs, I also found out about thread pitch from the case screws so M2 was pretty easy to figure out, M3 might even work too but haven’t tried. My only gripe is there’s more plate material around the pcba so idk if anyone here or someone noticed but there’s some wiggle room and gap in the tofu case when installing/sitting the original plate/pcba, I double checked for alignment issues but didn’t run into any, only thing I had to really adjust was the screw tolerance from the top plate and pcba screw standoffs (blue holes) because either the foam would move/squish out I tiny bitsy or the port would move/misalign. I cut the foam to fix the foam issue/spacebar wire to go down
willow gate
I know this is kinda not a custom keyboard and also one at the same time.
Custom in the sense that cherry profile keycaps won’t have interference, switches are able to be lubed and filmed, and for the assembly to be able to be swapped into another chasis.
Not custom in the sense that is is quite a lot of work just to swap out the plate.
And being able to swap out the plate with ease would be awesome
Because uh, steel is kinda harsh to type on, but idk, that is probably just my weak fingers from typing on PC and or FR4 plates for the past year in the custom keeb hobby
lusty pond
Would be great if the mount between the plate and pcb wasn’t semi permanent, but...
I agree but hey? I do think majority aren’t looking to change the plate, And yes, i agree, steel isn’t my preference, especially typing
And gaming (for me at least)
willow gate
We have been spoiled with thock
lusty pond
Looooool
willow gate
The harsh pitch of steel is too rough
lusty pond
I gotta say, doing this improvised not perfect plate mod was very fun, even if I failed I would just keep the parts for another keeb
willow gate
You should try gummy O ring mounting
lusty pond
O about that
willow gate
The O ring wraps around the perimeter in between the pcb and plate
lusty pond
I tried o ring screw mount
willow gate
Isolating the assembly from the keyboard case
lusty pond
Like o rings for the screws
willow gate
I tried o ring screw mount
You should’ve bought the freebird60 kit for that
That keyboard is designed to be mounted like that
lusty pond
It almost f’ed up my port Xd
willow gate
And yea, where there is an o ring that sits between the pcb and the case
willow gate
It almost f’ed up my port Xd
Seems about right
Most people who o ring mount on top of the stand offs have to file away their case a little at the port area
Doubt you want to do that
Whereas the Freebird60 already has enough clearance to not need to be filed away
willow gate
If you’re based in America, then you’re lucky
Because
This board/case only /kit, is sold in America
The designer of this board made a build video
lusty pond
https://keebsforall.com/products/gb-freebird60-case-only#
Wow, tbh this is def better than tofu
Lol
willow gate
as well known as the tofu is, it’s pretty old
While the Freebird60 is possibly the most beginner friendly kit to date
$150 for case, pcb, and plate
BUT there’s more
For $35 more, they include keycaps and switches
lusty pond
Looks like it should fit wooting 60
willow gate
Yep
The Freebird60 is still following the same mount positions as the tofu and more importantly the 60he
But if you want to go crazy, wait for the extras on the wilbatech salvation to come out
Maximum flex, and aesthetics
Badseedtech already put his 60he into a Salvation case
lusty pond
The goodies galore lol
willow gate
And it looks nutty, even with just the stock keycaps
This is what the Salvation mounting looks like
lusty pond
It looks good 
willow gate
The keyboard itself has such a good sound profile too
The flex is absolutely insane in this board
glacial harbor
btw, if anyone is curious, everything without the case weighs around 460 grams including keycaps
normal marsh
Is there a resource where I can find the dimensions of the plate/PCB, or would the DZ60 compatibility mean that's the only thing to worry about?
There is a artisan keyboard maker who makes layered acrylic keyboards that I like the look of, and I figured what I could do is give them the specifications of the HE60's PCB/plate, and perhaps get a keyboard that would fit it. Originally I had the idea of getting an Xbow (I think that's the name), but I figured I could just get a case for the Wooting 60HE. Also if I do the crazy thing and get the plate replacement, would that have the same dimensions as the steel plate?
I'll post some examples of their work incase you want to know what I am talking about.
glacial harbor
the dz60 compatibility should be the only requirement
and if you replace the steel plate, it will be the same size so you don't have to worry about that
normal marsh
Thank!
lusty pond
Just measured the plate thickness 1.2-1.25mm is what I’m getting
dire zodiac
should I stick to the stock plate or is it to much work to swap it out? do you guys like the steel plate or is there a better option?
velvet saffron
I will probably mod the wooting and in want of recommendations what did you mod?
more foam lubed all switches ? If yes how ? I'm pretty new to it so
I might change de case for a tofu 60 something that would fit my setup either blue or black and white
my current keyboard is a ducky shine 7 that I modded with foam and lubed it without desoldering (i know but I didn't want to desolder everything ot lube it and having keys that would not work anymore given it is my only keyboard)
dire zodiac
where can I find a POM plate? having trouble finding retailers
scenic pendant
whats the shortest available case with good dampening options? by short i mean that will allow the most neutral wrist angle
thats compatible with 60he
autumn smelt
has anyone taped modded their keeb
velvet saffron
Any great ideas for black and white cases and keycaps?
autumn smelt
willow gate
Just measured the plate thickness 1.2-1.25mm is what I’m getting
Did you measure with callipers?
Because it was to be known that the plate is 1.5mm in the live stream a few days ago
And 1.5mm is most common for 60% plates
Like the dz60 plate for example
lusty pond
I guess my plate is not up to standards, I was getting 1.2-3 mm
heady lichen
Just a warning to whoever plans to use a GH60 low profile case, the pcb is a bit too small to reach both screws on the left and right side of the case
hearty knoll
👀
frigid crypt
In the DXF file of the plate, there are 2 smaller holes i marked in blue which is the align pin used to align the PCB, but if you want to do a custom made plate, these 2 holes will not be needed.
For those who want to make custom plate, the plate thickness should be 1.5mm, the space between plate and PCB is 3.5mm, that means you are gonna need 8x 3.5mm height spacer to screwed with PCB.
The foam is set to 4mm but because it’s pretty flexible so it can be clamp to 3.5mm or less to have more effect on sounding wise.
lusty pond
@frigid crypt 🐐
velvet saffron
That looks cool
Aren't all the same at different prices?
Ultimately if you know a sakura black and white milk keycaps I'd love it
https://a.aliexpress.com/_voOeQA
https://a.aliexpress.com/_uvsQKW
https://a.aliexpress.com/_uhTEDy
I might go for a tofu 60 black case with white keycaps so that they pop out
boreal pollen
wait is that a separate board for numpad and volume control? thats so sick. whered you find that?
minor kettle
Ah I got that from taobao. Unfortunately if you do not have access to it. Maybe can check drop.com? They have some megalodon numpad with knobs too
autumn smelt
has anyone oringd their swtiches?
velvet saffron
I did but not on lekkers
You have to like the mushy feeling
I liked it as long as I was playing mmos
But for fps i dont really fancy them
willow gate
has anyone oringd their swtiches?
velvet spindle
has anyone oringd their swtiches?
No but I can try
autumn smelt
No but I can try
no need
i tried
and
the sound diff
minimal
so i just took them out
dont want any potential interference with my built in hacks keeb
autumn smelt
maybe i will
actually
i still do use a membrane
for afk farms on mc
i hotkey a command then i just put my controller on top
then sleep
glacial harbor
neon bay
Is this stock? If not, what mods did you do?
glacial harbor
its basically stock
i just removed the lube from the stabs and did it myself
also clipped the stabs
worthy veldt
Regular mx springs work on these switches right?
https://1upkeyboards.com/shop/parts-and-tools/parts/1upkeyboards-xp-gold-switch-springs/ I’m planning on picking these up
mint pivot
Regular mx springs work on these switches right?
Afaik the springs can't be magnetic so only the Wooting ones work
normal marsh
Nope, the springs need to be wider, and you need to make sure they aren't magnetic
Dimensions of the springs are here
#archived_the_lekker_switch message
lusty pond
Dimensions of the springs are here
https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555...
That's travel distance/force
The link keeps sending me to @jovial sleet about the lighter springs/info about them that wooting supplies
normal marsh
Works for me?
lusty pond
Works for me?
Weird, my phone keeps taking me here, that information is very helpful nonetheless though 
velvet saffron
how do i lube the lekkers switches ? do they need lubbing in your opinion ?
balmy ermine
I lubed my switches sounds a lot nicer I'd say, with regards to how, it's like any other switch still just make sure u don't accidentally get any on the magnet itself possibly do the stem then wipe the very bottom just in case
hybrid rapids
https://1upkeyboards.com/shop/parts-and-tools/parts/1upkeyboards-xp-gold-switch-...
Regular mx does not work, diameter is too small
worthy veldt
Rip I’ll have to see how the switches feel then stock
neon bay
Rip I’ll have to see how the switches feel then stock
Why would you want to change the springs? Different weight?
dusk bridge
Just got the IFK 4800ks waiting for the dark purple tofu 60 to be delivered
worthy veldt
@neon bay yeah I want a different weight
neon bay
Just got the IFK 4800ks waiting for the dark purple tofu 60 to be delivered
Nice, wanted to do a similar color scheme, keep us updated 👍
neon bay
<@781472490978934785> yeah I want a different weight
They have 50g Springs on the Website I believe. What weight would you have gone for?
worthy veldt
I wanted 45g
neon bay
I mean, its close...
worthy veldt
Yeah close enough I have muscle memory on 45g so I wanted to keep it consistent
neon bay
Just got the IFK 4800ks waiting for the dark purple tofu 60 to be delivered
Spacebar looks weird 🤔
dusk bridge
Spacebar looks weird 🤔
Its upside down
neon bay
Yeah close enough I have muscle memory on 45g so I wanted to keep it consistent
On a normal keyboard? Because these might be different to type on since you have variable actuation point and all
neon bay
Its upside down
Lmao why
worthy veldt
Regular mechanical keyboard I’ve tried the steel series omnipoint v2 they should not feel much different I think
undone dragon
can i bag lube the lekker switch's springs?
bold skiff
Spacebar looks weird 🤔
Your spacebar looks weird being upright
You should try it it's so much more comfortable for your thumb
I do the same with ALT for alt-tabbing
undone dragon
I do the same with ALT for alt-tabbing
sacrilege
neon bay
I do the same with ALT for alt-tabbing
Mhh i dont know, got used to it I guess
velvet saffron
Can i lube the lekkers switches wont is mess up the hall effect?
jovial sleet
Can i lube the lekkers switches wont is mess up the hall effect?
they come prelubed stock
so no
velvet saffron
great
rich lance
Heres what the purple looks like
i have 1
willow gate
Just got the IFK 4800ks waiting for the dark purple tofu 60 to be delivered
Nice, that’s clean
dusk bridge
Nice, that’s clean
Thanks 🤜
willow gate
Make sure to flip from north to south facing for your switches
Otherwise there will be interference between your keycap and switch
Where the inside of the keycap will scratch against the switch housing
dusk bridge
Otherwise there will be interference between your keycap and switch
Heard something about that but they feel smooth so should i still flip them around?
willow gate
If that’s the case then maybe not
Some cherry profile keycap sets do interfere, and some don’t
dusk bridge
Some cherry profile keycap sets do interfere, and some don’t
Ok ima gonna go double check them
willow gate
Try every row of your keyboard, feel and listen closely
I think it is a specific row that is a cause for concern, but can’t remember which
mint pivot
Or try putting sheet of paper between the kyecap and switch
dusk bridge
Good test for interference
Would facing a extra switch the same way as on the board and trying different keycaps work
willow gate
You’re just gonna have to try, or swap them all to south facing just for peace of mind
It won’t affect any other keycap profiles later down the line if you do decide to try out different profiles
dusk bridge
I just tried every row w a extra switch and its not hitting anywhere so it is safe to to that these keycaps dont interfere with the switch
willow gate
All good then
dusk bridge
Yeah
willow gate
Good to know I don’t have to go through the fuss of swapping all of my switches to south facing when I get my 60he
dusk bridge
What keycaps or theme r u going for when u get your 60he
willow gate
Not sure yet
But I have a set of IFK delight, Aluvia, and kineticlab hippo keycaps laying about
Also ordered a Freebird60 in E-white
dusk bridge
Nice
deep jackal
Will a gummy o ring mount work for the 60he?
lusty pond
Will a gummy o ring mount work for the 60he?
@willow gate has information about a case that will work perfectly for gummy o ring mount, I have tried with the tofu 60 but it is not worth it because it lifts the usb c port/risk it being damaged
deep jackal
<@329918267848392706> has information about a case that will work perfectly for ...
yeah that's what I was wondering about the usb port
thx
I do have small o rings tho just to put on the screwpost on the 60he
lusty pond
Np, I @willow gate Because I don’t remember what the case was called
lusty pond
I do have small o rings tho just to put on the screwpost on the 60he
Ah That’s what I thought you were originally talking about
willow gate
Will a gummy o ring mount work for the 60he?
Are you referring to the mount where there us a large oring that wraps around the assembly? Or the mount that sandwiches the smaller o ring between the stand offs and case?
deep jackal
@willow gate I was referencing the oring around the assembly at the beginning
lusty pond
O ring gasket mount Band would interfere probably with the switches But the plate is steel So you might be in luck
I haven’t tried that so give it a shot if you would like to
lusty pond
I do have small o rings tho just to put on the screwpost on the 60he
I thought you were referring to this originally
deep jackal
I thought you were referring to this originally
Oh I thought gummy oring was meant for the oring around the assembly
I was talking about that at the beginning
lusty pond
Yeah I haven’t tried that but I did try the screw post o ring mod but That was terrible
Literally I thought my USB port was gonna break
deep jackal
oh wut really
lusty pond
Si
deep jackal
damn I wanted to do the screwpost o ring mod cause its easy af
I guess it depends how tight the screws are
willow gate
<@329918267848392706> I was referencing the oring around the assembly at the beg...
Yea this? It should work for 60he
deep jackal
Yea this? It should work for 60he
oh wtf
willow gate
You’re just gonna have to use a case like the tofu tho
deep jackal
what's the o ring you bought cause my tofu is coming in soon
lusty pond
You should’ve bought the freebird60 kit for that
Found it
willow gate
This is not the 60he btw, just a random gummy o ring mounted pcb I had laying about
xD
willow gate
what's the o ring you bought cause my tofu is coming in soon
Keyspresso
Sold out unfortunately
Hasn’t been in stock for ages
willow gate
Good luck, a good peek into the custom keyboard community
:)
Where no stock is the norm
deep jackal
oh ik
willow gate
Your tofu is only the beginning
deep jackal
and probably the end tbh cause the wooting keeb is perfect for me
unless i upgrade the case and keycaps
other than that i'm set lol
deep jackal
<@204440050174263296>
thx 
deep jackal
30A or 50A?
deep jackal
I may have a slight issue with the tofu cause I may've to Dremel out the stand post of the tofu to fit the the gummy gasket o ring
@lusty pond @willow gate
willow gate
not sure, I have no issues with my case which follows the design of the tofu
deep jackal
it uses stand posts right?
willow gate
yes
oh wait, now that I remember, I removed the stand offs
because it is a wood case
deep jackal
that's the answer I was expecting lol
willow gate
you have to dremel away the stand offs in the middle I am assuming?
deep jackal
pretty much
willow gate
if you went for the freebird60 case, then you wouldn't have to as they didn't implement o rings in that area
deep jackal
if you went for the freebird60 case, then you wouldn't have to as they didn't im...
too bad that case is on preorder
willow gate
the forgot to update the webpage I believe
xD
willow gate
as I am getting the case from my vendor here in my country on friday
I don't get why they call it a preorder, as that implies that you're getting the board sometime way later in the future
and quote
(Pre-Order) FB60 Case ONLY Kit estimated to ship out within 4-6 weeks of placing an order.
which implies it is more of a 'to order' sort of thing rather than a preorder where they ship out the item to everyone at the same time
you have to get rid of these stand offs right?
the freebird already has you covered on that, only the 4 outer stand offs
deep jackal
the freebird already has you covered on that, only the 4 outer stand offs
yeah too bad I already ordered the tofu 😭
willow gate
dremel time
deep jackal
good thing I have that here at home
willow gate
mhm
besides, you only need to dremel at least 2mm in height and not completely flush
to avoid damaging the anode around the stand off
OR
go onto any american custom keyboard discord server and sell at a $5 loss or something
although that would require a lot of patience as no one in the hobby is into Tofu anymore
deep jackal
fair enough
deep jackal
@willow gate here's the look of the 60he assembly from this angle
The foam between the plate and pcb
lusty pond
I may have a slight issue with the tofu cause I may've to Dremel out the stand p...
Just add foam
willow gate
yea you can fir the o ring around, it will just be a bit tight
lusty pond
The post shouldn’t interfere with gummy assembly purpose
willow gate
may want to use an exactoknife or scissors to cut away some of the foam
lusty pond
AYo
lusty pond
Me, ramanov and ferren should get a community modding role
willow gate
we are simply just trying out the mods that already exist
xD
lusty pond
Xddd
willow gate
this keyboard youtuber I watched for a while now, and this is one of their most ridiculous ideas imo
deep jackal
The screw is too short to do this version of the mod fully but i can probably get somewhere with this
update it didn't work at all lol
short screws is what killed it
@willow gate @lusty pond
deep jackal
Me, ramanov and ferren should get a community modding role <a:kekwRGB:8828238733...
ngl I'll be down with that lol
velvet spindle
My alu case should come anyday now
Just want it to hurry up as I'm bored out of my mind
lusty pond
My alu case should come anyday now
What color did you decide?
lusty pond
Cyan still is very nice imo
lusty pond
And for clearance, big w
neon bay
Dann that's a steal for that price.... Shouldn't have gone ne with the Freebird😂
velvet spindle
Aye and if I don't like it then it's not much of a loss
neon bay
How much are you paying for shipping?
velvet spindle
Free
neon bay
Dayum how
velvet spindle
Was just free delivery
velvet spindle
AliExpress delivery is setup for vendors to send goods cheap
Vs the website they sell on is their own method
neon bay
I would've paid 15€ 
velvet saffron
Can you silicon mod the tofu for the wooting to be fitted in or just normal foam would do the job, also can you tape mod the pcb or will it be a hindrance ?
glacial harbor
i've tape modded the pcb, no issues
velvet saffron
great thanks
floral estuary
Can you silicon mod the tofu for the wooting to be fitted in or just normal foam...
silicon mod for tofu is no issue aswell
velvet saffron
Can we buy it already done ?
Whats the best vs foam and silicon ? I've some foam sitting at home so
lusty pond
Lol I got a quote for solid carbon fiber plates of wooting 60he 25pcs/$15 each, either it's too good to be true or I actually think that's a really good deal
velvet spindle
Batch buying
lusty pond
But I declined, I don't need 25 plates 😭
lusty pond
Batch buying
Yeah apparently the MOQ is 25, she's a very nice business owner and even said that I could resell them on eBay 🤣
But man I'm scrambling right now I'm trying to get all these quotes
I'm trying to get a carbon fiber, aluminum, brass, and copper plate since the files are available
It's kinda fun
normal marsh
I suppose Carbon Fibre is easy to cut?
lusty pond
Oh, this may be very useful to this channel, I deleted the two holes Kevin crossed out and also deleted the wide border lines because apparently it was a problem when I was sending the template for a quote so here is a updated modded file:
lusty pond
I suppose Carbon Fibre is easy to cut?
Depends, because the wooting is a HE switch the plate needs to be solid so flexible carbon fiber definitely wouldn't be my 100% but there's 8 standoffs so that helps when those are added
From what I'm seeing, solid carbon fiber is being cut out by CNC
glacial harbor
first is lubed, second is unlubed (alternating)
it's not completely lubed, i lubed it without opening the switch by just pushing the stem down and coating the sides of the housing in a thin layer of lube, i have a switch puller and opener coming soon as well as krytox 105 for the springs. I'll give a sound test once im done with all of that
lusty pond
first is lubed, second is unlubed (alternating)
Very nice
I like how you can actually hear how the lube alters the sound in the recording
glacial harbor
and i didn't even lube it fully yet 😏
velvet saffron
you lubed the lekkers? but wont it affect the hall effect?
glacial harbor
nope
velvet saffron
how?
glacial harbor
i think the only way you could possibly fuck up the switches with lube is by putting a ton of lube on the magnet part but that would be pretty hard to do accidentally
glacial harbor
you can't, trust me
glacial harbor
me too
velvet saffron
I never opened a switch
glacial harbor
this is what i got for pulling the switches out and opening them
this is for the switch stem and housing
glacial harbor
yeah that seems good
you just need a switch puller so u can pull the switches out
unless you already have one
velvet saffron
I do yeah
glacial harbor
if you wanna bag lube the springs though, i'd also recommend getting krytox 105
velvet saffron
so how do you lube lekkers switches?
glacial harbor
just look up how to lube cherry mx style switches on youtube
glacial harbor
https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Mechanical-Keyboard-Stabilizer-Lubricant/dp/B096MF...
should look like this ^
glacial harbor
the 205g0 will work fine then
velvet saffron
aight
lusty pond
I never opened a switch
Sounds like you need a switch opener
You can find a nice aluminum one on Amazon for like 10 bucks
velvet saffron
I linked one with a buindle of kytox 205
lusty pond
Comes with Kahli and gateron
velvet saffron
seems fine
lusty pond
Very nice
velvet saffron
You can find a nice aluminum one on Amazon for like 10 bucks
glacial harbor
are you trying to make a silicone dampener?
glacial harbor
are you using the stock case?
velvet saffron
Tofu 60
lusty pond
https://www.amazon.fr/lubrification-ouvre-commutateur-lubrifiant-commutateurs-st...
The only thing I don't like about that is the lube
glacial harbor
yeah thats what i was thinking
lusty pond
It's GP not krytox but as a man of culture would say lube is lube 😭
The whole niche behind it is we know what's inside krytox
👏
lusty pond
I might give one away if it turns out well, and well technically it's part steel but not as harsh as steel
You can buy carbon steel
On laserboost
lusty pond
But hearing the sound test of carbon fiber is nice
lusty pond
So I thought I'd give it a shot for the Lekker switches
glacial harbor
would an fr4 plate work?
lusty pond
Fr4 is a little tricky
It's known to be way flexible or a little stiffer than Pom or polycarb I believe
I have never tried a fr4 plate so I can't be 100% on that but every fr4 plate I've seen isn't solid and has gaps
The 60 he can't use screw in stabilizers so the biggest factor is can it hold plate mount stabs
And there is nice plate Mount stabs available like from asceny and zeal
Even durock plate mounts are nice
So many options
lusty pond
https://keebcats.eu/products/lube-starter-kit
That is a very nice lube kit but I believe the wooting is right around the corner
Like the new kit from wooting
velvet saffron
and it's 15 euros shipping so
lusty pond
XD
velvet saffron
yup...
velvet saffron
Haha
velvet saffron
That is a very nice lube kit but I believe the wooting is right around the corne...
neon bay
https://www.amazon.fr/lubrifiant-clavier-lubrification-m%C3%A9canique-graisse/dp...
This isn't even Krytox tho, is it?
lusty pond
I think ill get the keebcat kit
neon bay
I think ill get the keebcat kit
If your in the Uk it could be fine
Also, isnt there a Keyswitch Puller included with the 60He?
lusty pond
A key cap puller
neon bay
No switch puller?
velvet saffron
and it's a nightmare having 105 oil for the springs
velvet saffron
I have most of the things from a previous kit tbh
I just need a switch holder and 105 for the springs
and krytox 205
I've looked all over with https://keebmap.xyz/
but no chance
amazon is super overpriced
lusty pond
Honestly I wish the wooting team would have just gave out a small discount for a second pack of springs for the people who got defective ones 😭
lusty pond
amazon is super overpriced
Amazon is Mecha that takes advantage of profits which isn't a bad thing I guess for small businesses
It's not a bad place to start a small business
Especially after eBay fees
neon bay
@velvet saffron I'm from germany and searching as well, but I'll go to the gym now. If I come back and you haven't found anything yet I'll help you look deeper
lusty pond
Increasing
lusty pond
<@166254479858073600> I'm from germany and searching as well, but I'll go to the...
O guten tag
I'm part German
And I'm not saying that because I know one phrase in German
velvet saffron
<@166254479858073600> I'm from germany and searching as well, but I'll go to the...
Danke
Ich verstehe ein bisschen deutsch
neon bay
Einfach alles halbe Deutsche hier😂
velvet saffron
<@166254479858073600> I'm from germany and searching as well, but I'll go to the...
Have a great session and yes I'd appreciate it I'm going for my tennis practice now
neon bay
Have a great session and yes I'd appreciate it I'm going for my tennis practice ...
Alright, you to man.
fossil venture
Yeah Wooting lube kit is available tomorrow according to twitter.
velvet saffron
Great hopefully I will be able to add it to my order coz this is nowhere near to get shipped
I dont know if this is possible
neon bay
Yooo sounds sick, maybe this is a solution
willow gate
Aye and if I don't like it then it's not much of a loss
Ignoring the keycaps, your board should look something like this
willow gate
Dann that's a steal for that price.... Shouldn't have gone ne with the Freebird�...
If you like floating switch design aesthetics , then yea, should’ve went with gh60 lp case
velvet spindle
Ignoring the keycaps, your board should look something like this
if i can grab it before it goes back to sender
willow gate
Feels bad
velvet saffron
Yooo sounds sick, maybe this is a solution
Hopefully it will have 105 , 205 krytox and switch remover and all the good stuff
round tapir
Ignoring the keycaps, your board should look something like this
o dang, think i just found the case imma get when my 60he comes in. thanks!
swift yarrow
Tape modded w kaps
Kinda don't like the shine through but I wanted to keep the wooting key and I like the WASD accented
willow gate
o dang, think i just found the case imma get when my 60he comes in. thanks!
People like floating switch design that much? I find it a bit bothersome on how you could see the switches
And especially how the plate doesn’t sit flush or is not sunk into the case more
One of my friend’s GH60 builds, you can see that the plate hovers above the edge of the case
jovial sleet
ew
one of the few issues I have with most "gaming" keyboards nowadays
no protection for the switches and looks terrible at the same time
at least the stock wooting 60HE doesn't do that too bad iirc
round tapir
actually yeah that doesnt look so great.
my main board now is iqunix f96, i like the really thin bezel style.
willow gate
Thanks, the good looks probably are due to the aluminium keycaps
The sound is the next best thing
Seems like kbdfans is selling a silicone cover that you could use to put over your stand offs
lusty pond
Like my daily board here
aYo did we just become best friends
willow gate
xD
lusty pond
willow gate
FR4
lusty pond
A wooting 🤣😭👏
But I'm waiting for fjell restock pray 🙏
It says on their roadmap they will have a restock sometime in Q3
willow gate
<:dogekek:846285268289323069>
Nice, did you buy aftermarket or from the vendor?
Nice, Fjell is a classic
lusty pond
Nice, did you buy aftermarket or from the vendor?
I don't know if it's considered aftermarket but I bought it from daily clack
It was pretty pricey 😭
willow gate
You based in Aus or something? That is like $669aud
xD
lusty pond
I probably paid over $100 more than what it's worth retail and so ummmmlollll yeah I realized I could have got it cheaper from Singapore
And no I'm in US
I just missed out when it dropped on novel keys
Plus my knowledge of group buys was horrendous
willow gate
Rip, you shoulda checked some keyboard discord servers
lusty pond
So when I saw it on daily clack I def went YOLO
lusty pond
Rip, you shoulda checked some keyboard discord servers
I'm too poor, I'm too poor for those cool kids clubs
willow gate
A person was selling their Aluvia that was only opened for inspection for $390 aud
lusty pond
Xd
lusty pond
A person was selling their Aluvia that was only opened for inspection for $390 a...
😅 😭
willow gate
Rip, coulda saved $279 aud there
lusty pond
Yeah I am in no keyboard discord selling groups
I did look up at that one site I believe call Kwa or something
They have some sweet deals on there once in awhile
willow gate
Not really a selling group, most keyboard discord servers have a want to sell channel where people could get rid of their boards
xD
willow gate
I did look up at that one site I believe call Kwa or something
Keebs for all is a vendor that acts as a middle man for selling people’s unwanted boards too, pretty ok
But I still prefer server based purchases
lusty pond
Currently I'm in Wuque
Cannon keys, key cult
Uhhh
Singakbd
The coop
Mekansik
CBB
And they have no selling rooms
🤣
👏
lusty pond
But I still prefer server based purchases
It's probably better if you don't tell me selling servers, I might be on the next TLC series My strange addiction xdd
willow gate
a lot of the listings aren't that great in servers, but at least it isn't flips
frigid crypt
Oh, this may be very useful to this channel, I deleted the two holes Kevin cross...
Thanks! I didn't notice there is a frame outside the plate, i will try to update a new version to Github.
Is the plate screw hole dia 3.5mm (from the drawing) enough for the spacer that you are using? I'm worried if 3.5mm is too big for the spacer (spacer outer diameter needs to be bigger than 3.5mm in this case) then you might run into some assemble issue.
velvet spindle
looks like kbd put only my post code (zip code) on the package
And I can't stop it being returned to sender
mystic blaze
And I can't stop it being returned to sender
my street name had ¨ß¨ and ¨ö¨, and so many of non-european sellers puts the weirdest stuff on the package label... But I sort it out when I call the post office. They add 3 eur for address correction though...
so I started typing ¨ss¨ and ¨oe¨ instead of ¨ß¨ and ¨ö¨
velvet spindle
I'm hoping they can fix it or resend
As I'd hate to not get my heavily discounted Alu case 😭
mystic blaze
that would be sad
velvet spindle
They literally put nothing but the zip code
No number or name or other parts of the address
mystic blaze
then, only the seller probably can change it
on mine, the postcode name and other things were correct that's why I was able to redirect it.
velvet spindle
Usually if there's an issue royal mail just call you to fix it
The issue is it's being returned to sender
And I can't stop it
It already left
There's nothing to verify it's mine either
mystic blaze
Did seller contact you back?
velvet spindle
I just sent a message now
Kbdfans fucked up a previous order for me too but they did good on fixing it
mystic blaze
Kbdfans fucked up a previous order for me too but they did good on fixing it
that's reassuring at least
mystic blaze
And I can't open a dispute <:havo:975821613415157860>
why is that?
time not passed yet, or else?
velvet spindle
Wow they instantly replied and are resending it
mystic blaze
I don't know any English phrase for it so ¨geçmiş olsun¨, a literal translation would be ¨it shall be past¨
neon bay
@velvet spindle what keycaps will you use?
velvet spindle
<@171594634605232128> what keycaps will you use?
Not puddings thankfully 
willow gate
Hoping to achieve results like this after lubing, swapping to durock stabs, and gummy o ring mounting the 60he
A mod that Glarses did to their ghost a1 pdp keyboard, their videos are great
neon bay
Ok so the Lube kit has
Molykote EM-50L for stab wires
Krytox 205g0 for switches
Would it still be worth to get Krytox 105 for the springs?
mystic blaze
Bike chain lube for all of them 👀
neon bay
Would that work? 😂 I have lots of that stuff
mystic blaze
I wouldn't recommend but that's the only thing I used till now
no problems
dry lube not the wet one
if you do one, can you compare with krytox? I never used a proper lube, so a bit curious how it would be different
I am really happy with the result, that's why never paid the 10 times more price...
neon bay
if you do one, can you compare with krytox? I never used a proper lube, so a bit...
do what? Lube it with normal lube?
mystic blaze
yeah, I mean one not used switch if you have laying around
neon bay
Nope. This will be my first custom keyboard 😅
mystic blaze
ahhh, ok 🙂
inland hornet
Personally I got 205g0 for switches and stab housing and xhtbdz for stab wires
I don't have patience anymore to do holee mod
alpine cloak
has anyone found any good compatible flat cases? I have a high preference for those over angled cases.
willow gate
has anyone found any good compatible flat cases? I have a high preference for th...
gh60 low profile, I hope you like floating switch design
alpine cloak
gh60 low profile, I hope you like floating switch design
is that just like, low profile? if so I think I like that? I use the drop alt daily
hazy sentinel
What keycaps would look best with the wooting 60he
mystic blaze
I hate keycaps, you can't mix and match, even the same profiles...
you can but doesn't look right
swift yarrow
lusty pond
Thanks! I didn't notice there is a frame outside the plate, i will try to update...
Oop I did not think about that, yeah I think the holes could be smaller, since it's going to be using standoffs, anything that's M2 (maybe slightly bigger than 2 mm) hole would probably be best, I got to look at the Kbd standoffs, standoff screws, if the plate hole diameter is 3 1/2 mm from the looks of it, it'll work with a four mm screw head diameter M2 screw, I bought these screws because I was worried about the kbd fan screws https://www.ebay.com/itm/M2-M2-5-M3-M4-Silver-Phillips-Wafer-Flat-Head-Screws-Laptop-Notebook-Bolts-/225000532280?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
lusty pond
@frigid crypt I think changing the holes to 2.5mm to give some room since the plate would not have a thread pitch but instead work like a sandwich
For my current setup it should work, based off these images, I would make it of course a completely new file and keep the old one for other people to use I guess
lusty pond
Thanks! I didn't notice there is a frame outside the plate, i will try to update...
O just to answer your question (that's my bad) there's plenty of hole space for the screw to sandwich the standoff against the plate, Based off the photo above from kbd fans it looks like the spacer is longer than 3 and 1/2 mm diameter (so sorry for repeating myself XD) but my biggest concern is the wiggle room, might just be a niche for me since I like aligning things up easier and the PCB does give those adjustment holes/room, for right now I'll try to find out how to use this CAD editing app for today, it's relatively new to me but deleting things is the easiest of course
swift yarrow
Nice!!
swift yarrow
Uh oh
dusk bridge
It only works if i press super hard
swift yarrow
Guess it's a good thing they sent extra switches
Sounds like the pcb is good at least
dusk bridge
I dont have a switch puller
swift yarrow
..oof
worthy veldt
Just want to confirm these are the durock stabs that fit on the 60he right? https://prevailkeyco.com/products/durock-plate-mounted-stabilizers?variant=41994081042686
Was planning on getting some everglides v3 but those are sold out currently. Any other recommendations?
lusty pond
2.5mm Diameter standoff holes :)
mint pivot
Was planning on getting some everglides v3 but those are sold out currently. Any...
maybe take a look at everglide panda
worldly bison
Doing a tofukorn is really easy, you only need chopsticks cus them are the perfect height to put a gummy o ring. Cut and glue them to the bottom of the case.
Other alternative if u don't want to use the tofu60/65 is the Poseidon60/65
Woah, all your artisans are cool
worldly bison
For $35 more, they include keycaps and switches
One time more, in EU there isn't that offer. Can you send link?
worldly bison
Badseedtech already put his 60he into a Salvation case
Where did he say that?
Imagine an uniform flex mod. Would that affect negatively on the hall effect of the switches?
worldly bison
has anyone oringd their swtiches?
What is that?
mystic blaze
Imagine an uniform flex mod. Would that affect negatively on the hall effect of ...
afaik they said flex effects the hall effect, but pcb flexing as a whole might not, then again I have no idea
minor kettle
Woah, all your artisans are cool
Thanks 😁
willow gate
inland hornet
Got my blade60 today. Now just waiting for my arm model lol
iron mango
Was planning on getting some everglides v3 but those are sold out currently. Any...
zeal pc transparent plate mount stabilizers, novelkeys stabs, drop phantom plate mount.
swift yarrow
Very intrigued btw, I'm thinking if it might be worth opening up a guide on how ...
Please do this! Also a small group buy of wooting branded "nicer " cases would be cool. Aluminum case, brass weight, that sorta thing.
worthy veldt
@iron mango would you say they are all relative to each other? Those zeals look good I’ll probably pick them up
iron mango
zeal has a built in holee mod
not as good as real holee mod and is a bit louder since its transparent
novelkeys are probably the quietest in the batch
drop phantom will probably be the smoothest as its uhmwpe
worthy veldt
Will probably get drop phantom then. How would you compare them to durock clear?
round tapir
this looks awesome nice job
dusk bridge
this looks awesome nice job
Thanks bro , do u have urs already
round tapir
Thanks bro , do u have urs already
nah waiting on ARM.
dusk bridge
nah waiting on ARM.
Ok cool keep us updated
frigid crypt
Oop I did not think about that, yeah I think the holes could be smaller, since i...
I took a look on the spec of M2 screws, usually the head dia is around 3.5 to 4 mm, I think making the hole size with 2.8 or 3mm will be better, 2.5mm should be just fine. But if you are using the countersunk head screw (the middle one in pic) for the plate, need to watch out the hole size, because for using this type of screw usually need to drill a chamfer on the plate hole side to make it fit with the countersunk head shape, but this process require CNC and can not achieve by laser machine. So if the hole size is 2.5mm then it means the screw won't go too far into the hole due to the countersunk head got block by the 2.5mm hole thus can't smoothly screw into the spacer, so you might need to consider a larger hole but not too big than 3.2mm.
I made a bit crappy assemble pic for the spacer kit lol, only thing need to watch out is the hole size (magenta colour)
The small hole you go, the less depth of the plate screw will go into, so the less contact area the spacer will have.
stark jay
Tofu 60 case swap complete 🤌🏼
lusty pond
I made a bit crappy assemble pic for the spacer kit lol, only thing need to watc...
This is very useful thank you! Yeah especially after I noticed that the plate screws for the kbdfans Kit Use countersunk head I was very worried about how to achieve that usage when it comes to length Since the whole screw with the screw head is 3 mm but I was lazy (loool) so I bought Aftermarket flat head version, So based off the CNC Perspective, I’m guessing I’ll need to find a manufacturer who can add that to the plate Since typically plate manufactures just do laser, Just so I am not confused are you recommending the hole to be 2.8 or 3 mm For that process?
frigid crypt
This is very useful thank you! Yeah especially after I noticed that the plate sc...
Yes, for countersunk head, 2.8~3mm would be better, but if you are going to use flat head screws, i think as long as the hole size is smaller than the flat head diameter it will be okay. I believe you can find a very thin flat head screw on the aftermarket so you will not need to make a chamfer on the plate, this is will be more easy for you to make the plate.
Also the hole size I suggest (2.8~3mm) is on the situation that you want to use a countersunk head but no need to add chamfer to the plate.
I believe this kind of flat head screw can do the work, but still need to watch out if the screw head will intersected with switch
lusty pond
Yes, for countersunk head, 2.8~3mm would be better, but if you are going to use ...
Awesome! Thank you very much Kevin, Yeah I apologize for recommending that KBD fans kit/over seeing the countersunk
frigid crypt
I think the KBD kit is nice, but it will be hard to find a laser manufacture will do the CNC part on the plate, maybe there are some tools that can achieve the chamfer instead using CNC. Good luck on the build!
willow gate
I think the KBD kit is nice, but it will be hard to find a laser manufacture wil...
Pcbway
They don’t just do pcbs
But also milling of any material of whatever template you send them
mystic blaze
creamy 👍🏻
glacial harbor
took so damn long lol
mystic blaze
if you will do more than one keyboard, switch opener is a must!
swift yarrow
Nnnnnice!
glacial harbor
btw, if anyone's lubing, I'd recommend just lubing the bottom housing with decent amount of lube and maybe the springs also. when I lubed the bottom housing and the stems, it felt kinda mushy and muted so I had to go back and take lube off of the stems
depends on how you want your switch to feel ig
mystic blaze
btw, if anyone's lubing, I'd recommend just lubing the bottom housing with decen...
muted is fine but mushy I wouldn't like
I will try both and then decide, thanks for the heads up, although I should remember that at least a month later 😄
glacial harbor
I will try both and then decide, thanks for the heads up, although I should reme...
I should've tried it out before doing it on every..single..switch..
neon bay
So the lubing kit comes with this tool kit, but there's only tweezers for the stem, has anyone got any experience if this is easily workable? Because normally I see people using the weird claw thingy to hold the stems firmly.
mystic blaze
So the lubing kit comes with this tool kit, but there's only tweezers for the st...
from my experience tweezers are really annoying tbh
1 out of 3 pops out and falls on the carpet and if there is dirt it will stuck on the stem etc
but that might be my skill
neon bay
Mhh yeah thats what I was afraid of too
But I mean 12 Bucks more for the whole set is fine I guess. On Amazon you pay 10 just for a switch opener
mystic blaze
another thing about that claw like tool, it's not so good with box like stems
but better than tweezers
mystic blaze
I should've tried it out before doing it on every..single..switch..<:pepecry:643...
but thanks to you most will do, so be happy 😄
neon bay
another thing about that claw like tool, it's not so good with box like stems
Does the lekker switch have a box like stem? And what would be the normal shape?
velvet saffron
Can you film the lekkers?
neon bay
btw, if anyone's lubing, I'd recommend just lubing the bottom housing with decen...
Also if we trust ryan we shouldn't even be paying much attention to the stems, so the kit is fine ig
mystic blaze
Does the lekker switch have a box like stem? And what would be the normal shape?
seems so
mystic blaze
mine is from the website too 😄
neon bay
Mhhhh tricky
mystic blaze
but I think the one you sent is the correct one
jovial sleet
seems so
That’s the old design from huano
Never got mass produced iirc
Switched to gateron for lekkers as we know them
neon bay
btw, if anyone's lubing, I'd recommend just lubing the bottom housing with decen...
do you have sound clips comparing lubed stems and after you took it off?
glacial harbor
Also if we trust ryan we shouldn't even be paying much attention to the stems, s...
it really just depends on how you want the switch to feel
glacial harbor
do you have sound clips comparing lubed stems and after you took it off?
i do not, im sorry
but you can kinda just experiment with 1 or 2 switches
neon bay
yeah will probably just do that :)
glacial harbor
nothing is irreversible :)
my M key stopped working after i was done lubing for some reason but i unplugged the keyboard and plugged it back in and it worked again. I've never been so scared in my life
neon bay
How many extra switches come with the box again?
glacial harbor
i even tried multiple switches and it wasnt working so i thought it had to be the pcb i was so mad until i fixed it 
lubing is definitely worth it though in my opinion
swift yarrow
<:pepesweat:660549398417113098> How many extra switches come with the box again?
I got 2
jovial sleet
<:pepesweat:660549398417113098> How many extra switches come with the box again?
in my 2HE, I got 4
no clue as to how many are in the 60 box
normal marsh
What is a good film for the Lekkar switches? I was thinking of getting this https://www.switchkeys.com.au/products/durock-foam-switch-films#:~:text=Durock Films are a brand,into place to reduce wobble.
I had hear somewhere else the stems were a bit wobbly, is there a good way to eliminate that?
hybrid rapids
btw, if anyone's lubing, I'd recommend just lubing the bottom housing with decen...
I like mushy but over time it balances out regardless
hybrid rapids
So the lubing kit comes with this tool kit, but there's only tweezers for the st...
I found the stem claw to be too slow and pointless with spring.
hybrid rapids
my M key stopped working after i was done lubing for some reason but i unplugged...
When keyboard boots, it calibrates, if you have any keys press during that time, it could cause it to require to press very far or not activate due to calibration being completely off
We're working on smoothening the calibration, so that it can capture these accidents. Work in progress.
glacial harbor
When keyboard boots, it calibrates, if you have any keys press during that time,...
ohh okay thank you. I'll remember this for if it happens again :)
iron mango
What is a good film for the Lekkar switches? I was thinking of getting this http...
the durock films work but you have to cut the plastic part that seperates and designates a part for the led or else it will be very hard to close
durocks films make the keyboard more bassy
I would also suggest white films to not dim the rgb
transparent films will be the loudest and most high pitched if you want the keyboard to sound that way
velvet saffron
What would be the best film then ? Something that I dont have ot cut all the things off
iron mango
So the lubing kit comes with this tool kit, but there's only tweezers for the st...
that weird claw thingy is a jewelers tool to hold the stem to avoid lubing your hands. It also works with stabilizers to lift up the housing so one can lube the inner housings
velvet saffron
Tx kebo thicc deskeys?
iron mango
there is no "best"
deskeys makes it deeper, kebo I believe makes it higher pitched , and tx is somewhat in the middle
kbd fans foam will make the a bit quieter which i genearlly prefer imo since the lekker switch is still quite loud
velvet saffron
ehhh
iron mango
its very minor
velvet saffron
but the difference is quite great I believe it will be my first real build
I'll switch it to a tofu alu black that I ordered
iron mango
you make want to pick up some silicone orings then
to oring mount the board
im currently doing that with my fjell and am waiting for my tofu silicone to arrive to swap out the plate foam
velvet saffron
So I want to oring mount it tempest and i'll put some foam inside as well
you can order tofu siliconee?
sorry if my questions are dumb I'm quite new to it
iron mango
https://kprepublic.com/products/silicone-sound-dampening-noise-absorption-soundproofing-between-plate-and-pcb-similar-with-foam-effect-for-bm60-poker-iso-ec?_pos=4&_sid=e52ca1b4c&_ss=r&variant=42248217755811 I am currently waiting for this
the poker version should work
iron mango
its free shipping
ah
yes oring mount it add denser foam/ more foam, film switches, lube spring and switch.
silicone is extra step
velvet saffron
yeah I'm gonna do all that but i must buy films now.... gonna look around
iron mango
best bet is to look up a sound test difference between films
iron mango
candykeys should help with that
glacial harbor
what would that silicone dampener between the pcb and plate do?
make it lower or higher pitch?
glacial harbor
oh okay
iron mango
should be higher pitched sounds
glacial harbor
so more muted?
iron mango
yes
glacial harbor
okay thanks
velvet saffron
bu the wooting has already a foam no ?
neon bay
@iron mango is there a notable difference between lived lekker and lubed + filmed lekker?
iron mango
yes
not as clacky and more deep
most of if not all the sound in the 60 he is from the spring and the unlubed top housing
neon bay
Uhh gosh. Even more stuff to buy😭
iron mango
its something you do once and forget about ever again
wooting also released their kit so its very easy to pick up
neon bay
And the films I get from one of the sites you mentioned above?
neon bay
most of if not all the sound in the 60 he is from the spring and the unlubed top...
Also, you lube your top housing?
round tapir
Tofu 60 case swap complete 🤌🏼
60he, sl12 and blessing 2s. good taste.
velvet saffron
And the films I get from one of the sites you mentioned above?
we are from eu soo i'm searching for the films bruder
iron mango
yes
velvet saffron
no luck yet
iron mango
the sound has to leak out somewhere and it goes from the top of the switch thru the case and then back up thru all the foams plate and out the switch
velvet saffron
I'm searching a silicone foam too
neon bay
we are from eu soo i'm searching for the films bruder
Very nice frères
iron mango
or keycap
autumn smelt
will lubing the lekker swtiches affect actuation or performance in any way?
autumn smelt
ill still have strafe hacks?
neon bay
will lubing the lekker swtiches affect actuation or performance in any way?
Performance might increase
iron mango
yes
velvet saffron
poker silicon fits the wooting he ?
autumn smelt
nice i might buy the lube kit
velvet saffron
check for lube kits on others sites as well depending of the region
iron mango
calder should also sell films while he has buyers imo, that are " optimized for the lekker switch" basically films that are cut, or actaully slightly larger films
iron mango
try cannonkeys they are located in EU
thicker lubes work better with the spring imo
so id 205g0 everything
105 runs too fast imo
velvet saffron
yes
iron mango
best to have one
it wil really hurt if you do not have one to open that many switches
velvet saffron
I hate to order there but every eu shops has films sold out
but I guessi'll go for aliexpress ones...
dire zodiac
Dope
mystic blaze
Dope
Ahah, I bought orange of those keycaps and waiting for my wooting 😄
hk gaming rubber keycaps?
dire zodiac
yup
mystic blaze
nice, now I know how they would look, and I like it 😄
dire zodiac
Might swap out the akko pbt keycaps because I think the asa profile doesn’t feel good compared to cherry. It’s all preference trying to find a alternative
mystic blaze
oh, I thought they were the original keycaps
velvet saffron
best to have one
Do you know a bit about kelowna films?
mystic blaze
how do the rubber keycaps look with original keycaps?
velvet saffron
filming wont for sure mess up the hall effect?
since it's directly affecting the spacing
marsh lotus
my 60he
velvet saffron
c l e a n
marsh lotus
i bought some of those DCX keycaps from Drop but in the meantime im just reusing my GMK Hennessey set
velvet saffron
the poker version should work
please let me know so I can order it 😄
but I'm scared that with all these mods the hall effect might be scuffed
iron mango
Do you know a bit about kelowna films?
higher pitched sound
yah ill update once i get it
rigid spear
Anyone have an idea if the HE would work with a Ciel?
lusty pond
Anyone have an idea if the HE would work with a Ciel?
Port isn't in the middle for ciel compatibility
