60he community modding

[feral siren]

Ah nevermind your foam is TOO thic.

Ma bad misread

[feral siren]

A general question for the kind of people who are likely to be hanging around here.... has the Wooting 60HE kind of tapered off your Custom Keyboard addiction / indulgences?

[weak marlin]

Well kinda, cos with the money I've spent customising the Wooting I'm too broke to think about customising another board for awhile 🤣

[wanton forum]

Kind of, I only want these features in a gaming keeb now (or better)

[prime eagle]

It started mine.

[feral siren]

Oh no.... best of luck to you, and your wallet.

[regal hound]

It hasnt changed for me. I love the 60HE for it is and I swap to it everytime I plan to do any sort of competitive gaming, but I still enjoy other keyboards for other reasons

[umbral elbow]

Yeah, I've replaced switches on a prebuilt board and caps on another and am a big fan of Keychron's custom prebuilts for just general typing keyboards, but this 60HE is the first one I've gotten a custom case for and am planning to do a lube job on.

So if anything this is just the beginning for me.

[willow ledge]

I like trying a little bit of everything. The Wooting, once it arrives will be my first hall effect board and first 60 % board. I have an 1800 topre, a 65-ish % buckling spring, and some regular MX switch boards in various other form factors. I don't think getting the Wooting will change anything, addiction-wise. I suspect I'll still want to try new things.

[wary mango]

yeah it kinda has

I love the Lekker switches and the software is the best I've ever used

now I just want to get endgame keycaps and find nicer cases

for sure if you configure actuation etc. and fiddle with the software a bit the Wooting will give you the best typing experience you can have

I broke my typing record by like 10WPM first time ever using it :')

tbh the only thing I really want from Wooting now is other Lekker PCBs in different form factors
for me at least a dream Wooting is like an ortholinear 40% that uses Lekker switches

[spring matrix]

when picking a cable that is over 3ft
should i stick to usb 3.0 (60w 3A 10gbps)
and avoid
usb 2.0 (5V 2A 480mbps) cables?

if i buy something like this, i keep it under 3ft

[round dove]

I think you got the classic, my pro cable with aviator worked fine at 100% brightness with tachyon

[regal hound]

@spring matrix anything under 6ft that isn't pure trash will work perfectly, over 6ft is going to be trial and error. I have tried 4-5 different coiled cables and only two worked with 100% RGB and Tachyon enabled.

That being said, I've been over the coiled cable phase for a while now. I do have some new straight cables coming in later this week but I usually dont care about cables

[spring matrix]

ok i dont think ill go over 6ft, thankyou

[fresh jackal]

And a coil?

[round dove]

Yep coiled

[fresh jackal]

Interesting.

https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-classic-coiled-keyboard-cable-glacier-white-usb-a-to-usb-type-c-150cm/

And yes it is indeed a classic cable.

[round dove]

https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-pro-coiled-keyboard-cable-midnight-black-usb-a-to-usb-type-c-150cm/

This is the one

Maybe they used dif gauge cable?

[fresh jackal]

Not unthinkable - Or my cable is a partial dud. Hard to say without a larger sample size.

[spiral quiver]

Is there any purpose for aviator connectors other than to just look cool/different?

[regal hound]

Looking cool is debateble but they do serve a purpose of lightening your wallet and allowing quick cable swap if you own multiple cables with the same connector type.

[hexed pond]

I sent you photos via dm btw

60he bent plate that the switches sit on

Also just opened a support ticket for it for easier issue tracking

[spiral quiver]

I'm new to the whole keyboard scene, been using a Corsair K70 for eightish years before I ordered a Two HE and have been getting used to a ZSA Moonlander in the meantime. Don't most keyboards use a usb c cable these days, though?

[hexed pond]

Also had anyone tried to put a small oring inside the switch housing so the stem has less travel distance? Is this a dumb idea?

The idea is basically when the stem goes down it'll bottom out on the oring instead

[tidal dust]

all done (for now) tofu 60 case swap was smooth as butter. Anyone have any key cap suggestions? Looking for OEM Profile

[regal hound]

I like the ones you have on it

[pure wren]

tofu 60 or klippe t

i need answers

[flat phoenix]

klippe t 👍

[pure wren]

no

wrong answer

[flat phoenix]

[regal hound]

Depends on your budget and color choice and how soon you need it

[bleak cosmos]

yea im number 102 on the tofu waiting list :(

[regal hound]

Well that waiting list isnt going to get shorter as they are discontinued. You can still buy Klippe's and they are shipping in roughly 2 months.

[bleak cosmos]

i figured it was the keyboard that was discontinued, not the case itself.

well that blows

[still laurel]

For noise purposes you mean? Or for feel

If for noise: https://scarff.id.au/blog/2020/silenced-kailh-speed-copper-switches/

I did this ridiculous shit on the bottoms of my stems.

Like 0.2mm of gasket maker or so

Super thin but it removes the plastic on plastic clack

[oak ginkgo]

How’s the feel?

[still laurel]

Not mushy imo

It’s just more of a thud than plastic on plastic

I’m going to lube them this week at some point as well

[spiral quiver]

Isn't that more or less what Gateron did to the North Pole 2.0s?

[oak ginkgo]

Hmmm

[hexed pond]

Interesting

Its more for reducing travel distance not so much the sound

I tend to bottom out while typing so I wana reduce that travel distance by force

[still laurel]

Ahh. Then yeah orings would work for that

[bleak cosmos]

is there a differnce in bandwidth from a type c to c coiled cable, comapred to a type a to c?

[round dove]

Dont think so

Still usb2.0 standard if the device it connects to is usb2.0

I use c to c staight cable on mine

But its mostly to use up that usb c port I have

Nothing i use actually uses usb c lol

[bleak cosmos]

yeah same here i am running out of type a ports

[round dove]

Oh i have plenty of type A

Crosshair hero good with ports

[bleak cosmos]

i have an itx rig

ports are a luxury

[round dove]

Usbc dock time

[bleak cosmos]

i hate docks with a passion unless its fiber or thunderbolt

in my experience they just dont get the power they need and run super slow or just dont work

[round dove]

You need to get one with higher usb spec

And external power

3.1 is plenty fast

[bleak cosmos]

id rather just invest in a thunderbolt dock, i have 2 thunderbolt ports with dp injection anyway so i could get more out of it

[round dove]

Mostly

Just dont cheap out

Amd have no thunderbolt lol

[bleak cosmos]

you have usb4

but frankly it sucks

[round dove]

Not on am4 i dont think

5800x3d can last a few more years

[bleak cosmos]

for sure it can, imo best gaming cpu for price

who makes best coiled cables with fancy ass housings and connectors and whatnot, i know cablemod exists but they dont carry those cnc circular usb c housings and i really want one.

[round dove]

Like this?

I got mine off aliexpress lmao

https://mechcables.com/

This has a lot of customization

Also thicker gauge wires

[zinc forge]

Klippe T silver, still waiting for my key caps to arrive for the finished product just loving this case swap

[stable glen]

sorry for the @
i designed a plate file for the frog mini / wooting assembly too
did you end up using the frog mini housing ?

[wary mango]

Do you have any videos of sound tests?

also could you name the specific product u used and a close up of where u applied it?

I've been mad interested in the silencing mods

[simple panther]

Same

[stable bluff]

Out with the old

In with the new!

[fresh jackal]

2048 gang!

[stable bluff]

Yes!

[still laurel]

Two different typing vids. They sound slightly different but I think the first one is a better version of what I hear. Exact product is Permatex 81724 Sensor-Safe Ultra Blue RTV Silicone Gasket Maker.

Left is a decent application, right is bad (more than just the tip of the rail touches the silicone and ends up getting stuck). And then I also put a really thin layer on the bottom of the stem

@wary mango

[frail valley]

oh nice! how long did it take to cure?

[still laurel]

Cure time is 24 hours. Per the guide I pressed the stems into the top housing to get a slight imprint (and thus flatten it out a bit) after an hour, and then put them back together after 2 hours. You can theoretically type at that point but pulling the key caps off before the full cure time is up might ruin it cuz it would press the stem into the top housing too much

[hazy sentinel]

See if I can find white or black keycaps like this I'll do it. I feel like your rgb choices are limited with other colors.

[stable bluff]

@hazy sentinel pretty sure tai hao smoky quartz might be something you’ll like

Does anyone know if its doable to paint the top plate black, or if a different coloured one is in the works?

[still laurel]

Someone here did paint the plate black

[regal hound]

I wouldnt suggest painting a PCB or anything electronic but I'm sure there are some alternatives if the color bothers you. You could MAYBE tape mod the top and cut out for every switch, LED and anything that gets warm

[neon mesa]

Will wooting make an alu case for the wooting 60he?

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/hearties-gustave-maybe-gif-25215205

[neon mesa]

hoping for a tofu60 alternative 👀

[still laurel]

Has anyone here clipped the feet off the stabs? And/or put pads/bandaids on the pcb under the stabs?

[fresh jackal]

Nothing TO clip.

[still laurel]

I’ve seen people say to clip these off the bottom to reduce ping against the pcb 🤔

[fresh jackal]

The things specifically NOT on most modern stabs?

[still laurel]

These are the wooting ones. It looks like it’s for feel more than sound tho so maybe I won’t

[fresh jackal]

👀

I don't have those on mine.

... did I mix up my stabs.

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-worried-scared-look-gif-23041456

[gusty tiger]

#996573707235491950 message

Someone painted theirs black👀

[regal hound]

Oh I thought he said PCB so I said PCB. That was before my coffee 😆

[still laurel]

Heh maybe

[weak marlin]

You gotta send a pic of it all lit up so we can drool some more 😉

[stable bluff]

Might have to come up with something for the spacebar lights

The weight difference from the tofu to the fjell was not something I expected, thing is HEAVY

[hazy sentinel]

What, I swear they didn't come with them or were pre modded?

Huh?

[still laurel]

Weird. Mine definitely have the feet on them lol

[hazy sentinel]

I can check mine but I don't want to screw with the lube

[still laurel]

Nah don’t worry about it haha

I’ll probably just clip them

[regal hound]

@still laurel please let us know how your stabs work/sound after you click those 2 legs off. Im curious if that will fix the issue you're having with them.

[still laurel]

Not having any specific issues haha. Might be a bit before my keebs back together for a test but I’ll update when I have one

[wary mango]

are the switches lubed too?

[still laurel]

Not yet

[wary mango]

ohhh

[still laurel]

Well besides the stock factory lube

[wary mango]

I think with lube they're gonna sound insane

[still laurel]

Haha yeah I’m hoping

[wary mango]

I really want to try the silencing mod too so I'll give it a shot

it looks like you need some serious attention to detail

I'm more of a oonga boonga attack switch with lube brush type of fellow so this'll be a challenge for me LOL

did you manually put the layer on the stems or did you place it with the housing to apply the latex there?

[still laurel]

Manually. Just a tiny dot on the end of a toothpick and then very lightly spread it out

[wary mango]

toothpick makes way more sense than this

[still laurel]

The screwdriver is actually perfect for the top housing

[wary mango]

any issues you had applying or anything you would avoid in the future?

[still laurel]

Basically you get the same amount on the screwdriver as in that picture and basically wipe it on
But for the bottom of the stems it’s too tiny to do anything but very delicately spread it around with a toothpick haha

No issues tbh. Having the lube station to keep all my stems vertical was super helpful as I didn’t have to stabilize both hands lol. Also with the gasket maker make sure the hole in the spout thing is large enough. Mine was too small to start and I ended up putting a hole lower down in the tube because I was squeezing so hard lol

[wary mango]

I'd have to wait 2 days to do this, wait for it to cure and then lube everything

[still laurel]

You want the hole to be about 0.2mm

[wary mango]

2 days without my beloved 60HE 😭

[wary mango]

oh that's super useful cheers for sharing!

might take me a few weeks before I get to do this but I definitely will

[naive parcel]

Someone changed the steel plate in the wooting ??

[wary mango]

I told myself I'd lube the 60HE when I got it but I've had it for months lmao

[still laurel]

I also kept the tube of silicone on my desk and basically just mashed my hand into it to get some out. Again much easier than stabilizing both hands when getting it on the screw driver lol

[wary mango]

for sure when I do this I wanna lube it after because taking all the switches out and scratching up my plate etc would drive me nuts

do you think it'd be possible to apply lube after the 24hr period?

I doubt 205g0 would but I wonder if it could break down the silicone

[oak ginkgo]

Can confirm, my wooting came with those exact stabs, I had to clip them myself.

[still laurel]

Yeah that should be fine. Apparently the reason the guy originally used the gasket maker is because latex could interact with the lube oils but the gasket maker (silicone) wouldn’t

[bleak cosmos]

what stabs do you use? im looking for alternatives myself.

[fresh jackal]

I grabbed some Durocks - Purely because they are white for my white/grey keycaps. They are not in any way better than the stock ones.

[bleak cosmos]

i know im trying to find ones that match the color of the switches

or ones that contrast with the switch, like red

[round dove]

The stock stabs def have those legs, i clipped mine too, but swapped to everglide panda v3 now

[hazy sentinel]

Weird, well my stabs sound fine and last time my stabs ended up being weird without them so I won't mess it I guess

Checked mine and while they have the taller legs those don't have the fangs

[hazy sentinel]

I cut them and I'm be honest the wooting feels worse

Maybe its because I have 50g springs but it feels just really mushy tbh

[regal hound]

Luckily new stabs are fairly cheap. That's why I was curious what problem Cream and Candy was trying to solve. Most people (myself included) find they stabs sound great as they are. Maybe he just wanted to mod because he was bored, which I'm guilty of a lot.

Speaking of bored, I switched over one of my wootings today into the KBDfans 5 degree (cyan color) and it looks pretty good with the copper keycaps

Less washed out photo

[nocturne bluff]

Does that esc key hurt when you slam it?

Dunno how people use those types of artisans

[regal hound]

Yes, puts a hole in my hand. Taught me very quickly not to slam my keys

[nocturne bluff]

I slam my esc key hard to ff when I Mald. I guess I’m not the target market

[regal hound]

Yeah probably not the right audience lol

[hazy sentinel]

Yea I tried it and its worse

Way worse actually

Its so much more rattly

Anybody have stab recommendations?

These probably have to go now

[regal hound]

durock work great

[hazy sentinel]

Whelp I guess I'll just take the durock from my old board

[regal hound]

If it's a plate mount durcock it'll work great. You can also just use the stem from another stab if they are screw-in.

[hazy sentinel]

Pretty sure I clipped all of mine anyway so it'll be a pain in the ass to relube them

I keep getting this weird bottom out feel now as well

I think I'm try to get these clipped ones to work

[regal hound]

Lol ugh that sucks

[hazy sentinel]

TLDR don't clip your wooting stabs 😂

Typing normally doesn't feel the worst tbh

I think I'm just foam my spacebar and hope for the best

Only one I did so the rest are still safe

@regal hound

[regal hound]

Well this is why I advocate against people wanting to change something just because they read it online. As we say in the IT world "If it's not broke, don't fix it"

BTW this is also why I told Cream to tell me how it sounded when he was done because I had a feeling this wasnt going to be a good road to travel down. The stabs in stock form work great.

[oak furnace]

https://clipchamp.com/watch/KUi5uH3zf8J im definitely not the fastest typist, but here's a typing test i made of 60he

[wary mango]

wtf that sounds so nice

it's like you entirely got rid of the hollow noise the kb has

[oak furnace]

oh yeah i spent a while on tuning the right foam, tape, and screw tightness for that lol

[wary mango]

it definitely paid off

listening to my unmodded 60HE after watching that vid I'm kinda amazed it's the same kb in the vid

the sound is very, very different from stock

good job!

[oak furnace]

thank you!

ye you can definitely do a lot with it

[hazy sentinel]

Bandaid mod kinda is a bandaid

About the same as before now

[regal hound]

@oak furnace who cut your aluminum plate for you?

[oak furnace]

so uh... i may or may not have just glued stand offs onto a preexisting alu plate from amazon

would not recommend

but it works fine enough for me

lmao

[regal hound]

I love the ingenuity

[oak furnace]

dude it was so annoying, the stand off set i ordered was supposed to come with m2x3mm, but the m2x3mm area only had m2x4 for some reason

so i had to file each stand off down

[wary mango]

did the plate work fine?

any software issues

[oak furnace]

def some issues with stem wobble resulting in deactuation with rapid trigger

i set it to 0.6mm and i havent had issues with it yet

[wary mango]

oof

[oak furnace]

but yeah def would recommend getting a plate fabricated lol

i just am not patient enough to wait for one

[hazy sentinel]

Yea if you really want to clip your probably going have to bandaid as well to compensate

One layer was fine for me but your results may vary

[nocturne bluff]

What’s the lowest you went?

I’m at 0.4.. sometimes I feel my character is drifting. I guess I’m resting too hard

[oak furnace]

oh i was saying 0.6mm for deactuation/actuation w/ rapid trigger

i have my actuation point at like 1.2mm

[hazy sentinel]

I have .2mm and I'm still managing somehow

[still laurel]

Wait do you have stab pads on the pcb? Apparently people clip them for feel and then put on stab pads to reduce the clack

[hazy sentinel]

I did

It mean its fine? But I still like the hard feel of the unclipped

[still laurel]

Ah. Maybe I’ll just put pads on without clipping to start and see how it feels/sounds. Might have to do a bit more research on clipping as well lol

I mostly just feel like the stock stabs were fairly rattly but maybe they just needed a bit more lube

[spring matrix]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/brutal60

anyone got any guesses on if this will fit wooting
(not on the wooter compatibility list)

[fresh jackal]

No.

It is a gasket mounted case - There is literally nowhere for our tray based PCBA to screw into. 🙂

[spring matrix]

what if you gummy o it

[fresh jackal]

To what.

The only way a case like this would work is if you take their plate design and combine it with ours (if possible - I don't claim to know exact dimensions) and make your own plate.

[clever tinsel]

kyle made a plate for it #996573707235491950 message

[spring matrix]

is gummy o ring usually friction fit?
i see people grinding away their standoffs and just pressing the board in

oh

bruh

[spring matrix]

thankyou

very much

[round dove]

You would need some post or standoff to prevent the pcb from sinking all the way in if you gonna do gummy o ring

So tray mount is still best bet

[urban sand]

Been frying in CS🤤

I knew the wooting was gonna be good for Val but tbh its plays way better on CS

[urban sand]

You can just re-Use the EVA. Foam from the case flipped upside down, and just keep your keyboard compressed flipping switch side down and pushing down on the case

[round dove]

Led gets warm man

Best to not touch anything for it to dissipate heat

[urban sand]

Idk the contact the very little so it really shouldn’t be a problem atleast from my experience, and not to mention its really not enough for it to get possible threatening hot

[round dove]

Eh

Theres people with marks in the case

Applying pressure to smd device is a bad practice either way

[urban sand]

Ill keep you updated since this is just gaming board but ive been using it 2-3. Weeks already i havent seen any marks or experience heat problems from the LEDs

[round dove]

Are u using baldr60?

[round dove]

The thing is you wouldnt be able to tell until the component dies

[urban sand]

Tofu60

[round dove]

Ah ok

I silicone poured mine baldr60

Thinnest layer still pressures the mcu

So I had to make quite a few cuts

[urban sand]

Hows the flex? Lmao

Bounce*

Forget this board has little to no flex even though thats kinda my preference lmao

[round dove]

Theres barely any flex

Tried gummy o ring and burger mount

Steel top plate dont allow much flex

[gusty bison]

I can’t decide which case

[gusty bison]

that keycap set 😳😳😳

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-por-que-no-los-dos-yey-gif-15089379

Clearly the solution is to buy a second 60HE.

[gusty bison]

so true 🤣

[hazy sentinel]

Yea more lube fixed for me

[patent breach]

I replaced them regardless, because I feel the stems have a tiny bit more play than some aftermarket ones. Also I was stab rolling like a maniac for a while because my spacebar would not stop ticking no matter what.
Then yesterday I decided to fully screw the board into every standoff, and it seems the mount right next to the spacebar solve stab rattle for me. Just fine tuning with xht bdz left at this point 🥳

[still laurel]

What is stab rolling?

[patent breach]

I'm stupid forget that term

I just meant swapping stabs until I find the one to stick with

[frank folio]

what stabs have you tried, cause I'm thinking about replacing the stock stabs but I have no clue of anything regarding plate mount stabs

was looking into the tx ones tho, cause their screw in stabs are p good

[patent breach]

Tx has plate mounts ? Didn't even know that

[frank folio]

I didn't either till I started looking for new stabs lol

[patent breach]

I'm using FL cmmk v3 stabs at the moment , they're made of pom and by faaaaaar my favourite

Pom just sounds so so much better than polycarbonate

[frank folio]

gotcha

might go with tx then, it's also made of pom and it's easier for me to get than FL cmmk

[patent breach]

Like I've tried most types of plate mounts at this point I think

Durock & JWK Clear, Durock piano, asceny (these suck imo) and finally FL CMMK

[shy flare]

Just found a case that might work for the Wooting? Do you guys know if it'd fit? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003557432623.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.202b38dajBUNhH&mp=1

embeded fail

[patent breach]

Case should be good from what I can see

[flat phoenix]

I remember seeing them but i couldnt get them because they are only available in asia but idk

[shy flare]

Thanks, going to buy it then.

[patent breach]

I had the option to order them from AliExpress and wait two weeks, or have Amazon UK import them for me

[flat phoenix]

where did u buy them oh

[patent breach]

So I overpaid on Amazon because I couldn't wait

[frank folio]

amen lol

[patent breach]

Yeah I was desperate

[flat phoenix]

do u have the link to the aliexpress ones?

I kind of wanted to get them because of their sound but soon forgot them since i couldnt buy them

[shy flare]

Basically my situation, I'm going to mod my Wooting's stabs too. Going for a white and black build with these stabs https://www.serpentkeys.co.uk/products/fl-cmmk-plate-mount-stabilisers

My situation is desperate to get another case for cheap lol

[flat phoenix]

oh thanks for the link

the black and pink ones look clean

and ofc the shipping is more expensive than the product itself 🗿

[shy flare]

Yw and yeah the shipping is bad because the company is based in the UK. So free shipping for me ekekek

[flat phoenix]

I'll save the link anyway so i can buy them in the future

[shy flare]

It's like I don't think they come pre-lubed so I've also ordered lube

[flat phoenix]

because rn the tx stabs im using are meh

[shy flare]

Hold on. I did see some others from Gateron

[fresh jackal]

Definitely wouldn't expect stabs to come lubed in shipping. That'd be such a mess 😄

[flat phoenix]

maybe I did something wrong but they sound kind of empty except for my spacebar

[still laurel]

Thought this was a mod so I went looking and found this: https://imgur.io/a/SguMW
Dude wrapped his stabs with Teflon tape lol

[flat phoenix]

z

[shy flare]

You sure about that xD https://divinikey.com/products/gateron-plate-mounted-stabilizers

[flat phoenix]

Sad empty sound

idk how im going to fix it

it kind of has a ping to it

[hazy sentinel]

If you have the extra time just holee mod it, pretty much reduces the rattle of the stabs 10 fold

[flat phoenix]

I holee modded it

and stab pad modded it with a band aid

lubed with 205g0

it sounds empty

[hazy sentinel]

Did you a generous amount on the wire?

[flat phoenix]

yeah

ig i'll try removing the stab pad mod and see if it does anything

[hazy sentinel]

Apart from that there isn’t much you can do, you can try relubing it or changing the stabs all together

[flat phoenix]

Im probably going to change the stabs in the future

[hazy sentinel]

That as well, I personally don’t do it because it feels mushy

[flat phoenix]

but the spacebar sounds fine

[hazy sentinel]

Spacebar sounds perfect #

[toxic raft]

what plate material sounds the best

[hazy sentinel]

Subjective, what sound are you looking for?

[toxic raft]

deeper sound

[still laurel]

Also swapping the 60HE plate isn’t really feasible. People have done it but it will have to be custom and you need to make sure it won’t flex too much (can cause issues with typing due to the magnets if it’s too flexy)

[hazy sentinel]

^

[toxic raft]

i see

[still laurel]

You can probably find some feedback/info in here about swapping plates but I don’t think a lot of people have done it

[flat phoenix]

christ i just realized how much wobble there is in the housing of the lekker switch wth

[hazy sentinel]

I’m held off on buying a wooting, until a revised switch comes out in the future

Or films

[flat phoenix]

Intense wobbling

[toxic raft]

i hope they sell heavier springs soon i dont rly like how light the actuation force is

[frank folio]

Does normal film not work with the lekker?

[still laurel]

They can but they will warp. Lekker is wider around the rails part

[frank folio]

Gotcha

[still laurel]

That seems extra wobbly. I don’t think mine are that bad lol

[oak ginkgo]

Holee mod

[oak ginkgo]

I make it work

[patent breach]

I've tried this before and didn't really like it. I hate working with Teflon tape , a LOT

[still laurel]

Did you dislike the feel/sound? Or just working with Teflon lol. It really is a pita

[patent breach]

Idk want to tell you, mine sound okay imo. I haven't holee modded them, and there's no foam below
However my 60he has a 0.1mm thick silicone sheet between the plate and PCB

[flat phoenix]

After removing the bandaid stab pads they sound better

But theyre still meh

[toxic raft]

where can i buy decent plastic cases for wootign

preferably less than $30

[patent breach]

I feel you so very very much, the rattle on these is terrible

[flat phoenix]

they most definitely need to be filmed

[patent breach]

I have filmed a couple of my >1u switches to reduce it

I hope Lekker will have a rev 2 with tighter tolerances

[flat phoenix]

hope so too

these stabs still sound unbalanced

[patent breach]

When I pointed out flare tech wobble back with my w1 Wooting staff laughed at my message on stream so maybe it's not a concern for them ...

[flat phoenix]

damn

that's tuff

because it shouldn't be wobbling this much

[patent breach]

I've spent a bit of time balancing wires, which I am extremely bad at, bit yeah I know what you mean

They sound raw

[flat phoenix]

the left and right side sound like night and day

for like a couple of them

I think I messed something up 💀

welp Ig time to try and put some pe foam under the plate

[oak ginkgo]

im telling you, holee mod them.

[flat phoenix]

Theyre already holee modded

[oak ginkgo]

huh, strange

mine dont sound like that

did you use 205g0 for the stabs?

[flat phoenix]

They are tx stabs

Yes

[oak ginkgo]

thats your problem

you should be using tackier grease for stab wires

[flat phoenix]

I thought people said itd feel mushier

With holee mod

[oak ginkgo]

never use 205g0 for the stab wires

[oak ginkgo]

sure, it has a beak in period, but for me after a day of use it feels fine.

[flat phoenix]

Ok i’ll relube them after

[feral siren]

Y not?

[oak ginkgo]

its way too thin and it will get rattle again after like a week of use.

only use 205g0 on the places where the stem of the stabilizer slides against the housing

[patent breach]

Have you gone straight to holee mod or have you tried them without ?

Because I tried my luck a couple times and I can't get consistent with holee modding so I've stopped doing them in general

[flat phoenix]

Straight to holee

[daring smelt]

if anyone is looking for a wrist rest pad I recommend this silicone one from aliexpress, been using it for a few months now https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004435852861.html

[patent breach]

I can't see the listing from germany, but Wooting makes a very very decent silicone wrist rest

[patent breach]

You could try without, idk tho. We might just have different preferences in sound, my 60he sounds kinda marbly almost and the stabs compliment that very well

I've read these FL CMMK stabs don't need holee mod anyways, whatever that means

[daring smelt]

i couldnt get the wooting one in time and this is $19 with free shipping for me. I like it cus its a little wider when i rest my hand on WASD

[patent breach]

Makes sense if that's a concern for you

Goated iconography

[oak ginkgo]

lol yes

[patent breach]

My girlfriend unboxed my wrist rest while I was gone , and she suggested exactly this. She broke down laughing after I showed her the box

[still laurel]

You have the FL CMMK v3s? Or stock wooting

[patent breach]

FL CMMK v3

Since pom is self lubricating to a degree, you don't have to use as much lube I've noticed. Which keeps me from overlubing the stabs and making them feel sluggish, but that might just be me because I tend to overlube most of the time

[finite meteor]

kek that sounds like such a dutch thing, but yeah the wobble is pretty annoying even in lekkers

[patent breach]

Yeah I was kinda surprised they reacted like that honestly. It's obviously not a problem for everyone, but I think even Lekker wobble is pretty noticable

Maybe they should start producing switch films that properly fit Lekker switches so the folks who care about it can at least fix it themselves

Custom pom plate came in 🥳🥳🥳

I think my obsession with certain materials for keyboard is complete nonsense and borderline snake oil territory

[finite meteor]

as long as it doesn't harm anyone and makes you happy that's all that matters

[oak ginkgo]

Nice

I might waterjet my own plate.

[flat phoenix]

Well it sounds way better now that i relubed the wires with molykote

Compared to what it sounded like earlier

I got molycote all over my arms now though

[patent breach]

Molykote is honestly so much nicer for stabs than permatex

[flat phoenix]

I got the molycote on my deskmat on accident

I flipped the container over on accident

[patent breach]

Ahh shit

[flat phoenix]

and now i need to take a shower and clean everything up

[patent breach]

Just tell yourself it was on purpose for better mouse glide

[flat phoenix]

yes

Indeed

[flat phoenix]

It was so satisfying applying it to the wires instead of 205g0

I could definitely feel the difference

[patent breach]

You used 205g0 for stab wire before?

That's a no go

[flat phoenix]

yeah

I relubed it to molykote

[patent breach]

That stuff spreads too much

[flat phoenix]

I can tell after the switch lubing experience

[patent breach]

Yeah when you use too much it start leaking out the bottom of lekkers

[still laurel]

Got those cmmk v3s from serpentkeys 😅

[flat phoenix]

Okay it makes alot more sense now

No wonder why there was lube on my pcb

And now i need to fix my spacebar

Because when i hit it too hard it sounds like its hitting metal

[patent breach]

Mine right now, still with stock plate

But note this is obviously not my desk and this table is made of stone, that makes it sound bossier than irl

[flat phoenix]

Man I want stabs like that 😢

[patent breach]

My space bar still sucks

Need to tune that a bit more

[flat phoenix]

Everything except my spacebar sucks

[patent breach]

I can hear it click twice when i hit it on the right, i guess it need a little more xht bdz around the wire

Anyways, lets get to rebuilding

[flat phoenix]

Btw

Are those the fl cmmk stabs

[patent breach]

Yeah

[flat phoenix]

Yeah they sound hella nice

Going to get them in the future

[patent breach]

Yeah i had almost given up on stabs

They either ticked, or were sluggish from the amount of lube i used

I felt like i struck gold when i first installed these

[flat phoenix]

I hope they get more recognition in the future

[patent breach]

Honestly, i feel like its just the material

Pom is just great

[flat phoenix]

yeah

[patent breach]

Cue my material obsession

[flat phoenix]

Im hoping wooting makes pom plates in the future if it's possible

instead of steel

also have you ever tried those switch tripods?

that badseed showed

Im thinking about buying them and testing them out ngl

[idle briar]

looking for feedback on the klippe T - how is the front height and angle for comfort w/out a wrist wrest?

[flat phoenix]

I've been using it the past month and i think the angle is fine for me

I can type and game on it comfortably without a wrist rest

it hasn't hurt my wrist yet either

[patent breach]

Probably used too much silicone four my pour.. there's indents in the silicone from the underside of the pcb

[flat phoenix]

I guess you can always try again

but you should try it out to see how it sounds like

still

[patent breach]

I haven't yet, and don't really intend to. I kinda dislike foam for most things

[flat phoenix]

fair enough

[patent breach]

Also I'm not sure tripods work that well with Lekker , given that they don't have the big center pole

[flat phoenix]

really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igy_n3f7VeI i watched this video and the difference is pretty nice

its around the end of the "tofu 60 mounting & test"

[analog mantle]

hey ive got a question, i wanted to swap the cable out for quite a while. I was thinking about swaping the cable with one from my last keyboard, but it was cheap so im worried that it wont work well. how do i check if it works good with tachyon and rgb

[fresh jackal]

doesyourshbkweyboardvdothismaghjbe?Å

[patent breach]

I think I have some time ago. I mean, if it works for bad seed, it might work for you. I've removed pretty much all foam from my board and replaced it with silicone :D

[flat phoenix]

maybe it will

[patent breach]

I can confirm melgeek iem style cables work with 60he without issues, as long as you don't happen to own my cat which has bitten through mine

[flat phoenix]

its just I dont really like the "chalky" sound the lekker switches produce

[patent breach]

Pretty sure it's the bottom housing, I know what you mean

[flat phoenix]

It still sounds pretty good though

[patent breach]

Pom bottom / full pom Lekker when ?🥺🥺

[flat phoenix]

depending on how you configure it

[flat phoenix]

I feel like wooting can still their switches alot

improve

[fresh jackal]

Probably never? Too soft.

Need a rigid switch plate to avoid sensor wobble.

[flat phoenix]

honestly only complaint i will have on the switches is the amount of housing wobble

[patent breach]

Can't hear you over the the excitement I have while I'm installing this pom plate with flex cuts

[patent breach]

But I meant the bottom housing of the Lekker switch itself

What is the bottom housing material of Lekker anyways?

[finite meteor]

poop

[flat phoenix]

[patent breach]

Replacing pe foam with silicone it honestly so cool , I love it

[flat phoenix]

now you have to provide a sound test

[patent breach]

You've heard it before

It was already installed

I don't have an a/b sound demo tho

And I'm not putting the foam sheet I used before back on the pc, it melted to the PCB over the last couple of months and it was awful to remove

[flat phoenix]

oh

[patent breach]

There's still some goo left under the silicone sheet

To my ears, the pe sounded more poppy

[flat phoenix]

im using stock foam with pe foam on top

and plate foam

[patent breach]

While the silicone sounds... A little more rounded? It made me think of candies for some reason 😅

[patent breach]

What kind of pe?

Packing foam pe?

[flat phoenix]

yes

it's 1.5mm

[patent breach]

That's the stuff that melted onto my PCB last time

It might be because my board is so full of silicone though

Because that insulates very very well

[flat phoenix]

ok ok..

ur scaring me

[patent breach]

I don't expect it to be and issue with plate foam

[flat phoenix]

I do have tape mod though

2 layers

[patent breach]

But because I'm using silicone, the heat from the LEDs stays exactly where it is, right under the switch

[analog mantle]

btw

[patent breach]

Foam is much less dense so I expect it to spread the heat more

[analog mantle]

ive heard that using other cables might make the expirience worse

ive used a 5$ one rn

and i can use tachyon and 100% brightness

will somethjing be wrong???

xd

[flat phoenix]

well as long as its not over 6 ft it shouldn't be going wrong

and has enough power supplying the keyboard

[analog mantle]

its

180cm

[flat phoenix]

yes

basically 6 ft

[analog mantle]

ye

so its aight if i use this one and dont see any bad symptoms?

[patent breach]

Tachyon either works without bugging out, or it buggs out

You'll notice pretty quickly

[analog mantle]

how do i know... 0_0

im scared

[patent breach]

Well, coiled cables for example have potential to not work, as with the coil included some cables total at over 180cm lenght

[analog mantle]

right

[patent breach]

But some still work, but I don't own any coiled cable so I can't help allot with that

[analog mantle]

okey ty

[patent breach]

And idk, honestly all of my USB c cables (that I've tried) work fine.

[analog mantle]

i just wanted to know if i can use the 5$ one

gut 😄

ty

[patent breach]

If it doesn't bug in tachyon, consider yourself done with deciding on a cable

[desert creek]

if you want to use a krytox product XHT-BDZ is ideal for stab wires btw

[analog mantle]

where should i buy keycaps?

[patent breach]

This! But takes some time getting used to. But I think it's sounds the cleanest by far

Happy times, my pom plate fits the switches and stabs perfectly

[analog mantle]

https://keygem.com/collections/keycaps/products/epbt-ink-blank-keycaps

these are nice ;0

[patent breach]

The hype is rising

[analog mantle]

but paying 30$ + shipping for keycaps that are black doesnt seems so nice

[analog mantle]

idk what ur doing but keep going

🥳

[still laurel]

Stoked to hear the sound and if you have any sensor issues

[patent breach]

I can tell already, flex cuts is not a good idea. I'd advise against them, I think it was @fresh jackal who advised against it. Listen to his wisdom! 😅
But if I adjust rapid trigger to be less sensitive, it should be fine. The flex is negligible imo

And it already sound so much better from the plate assembly alone

[carmine timber]

@regal hound its hereee

[patent breach]

Side profile 😉

[patent breach]

My god I'm jealous even tho I don't know what it looks like yet

I have that planned for ... Later.. when there's money..

But his cables are amazing

[carmine timber]

cranked tachyon to 100%

should it start randomly inputting keys if it was gonna bug out?

I have a blank google docs open

[patent breach]

It might bug when you start typing

Unless cable is good

Which I hope because it's beautiful

[carmine timber]

Hmmm

I've been typing and nothing so far

seems to be ok?

Not sure if it's an instantaneous thing or what

[carmine timber]

yeah I've reached my end game for now

voxel cable, mojo60 case, nicepbt elderberry keycaps, fully lubed switches, swapped out springs. really content rn

I brought the rgb back down but at 100%, I didn't experience any issues :)

[patent breach]

Awesome to hear ! 🙏🏻

[still laurel]

Can you get it without flex cuts? Would it be fine then? Also where did you get it lol

[patent breach]

I ordered from customkbd.com, they're from Australia but have reasonably prices and shipping. But I'm sure there's better options closer to me.
The plate file I edited myself, and I did also make a dxf file without flex cuts, but I wanted them badly 😅

[still laurel]

Ah. You didn’t use the wooting plate file from their GitHub? Or do they not have the plate file available

[eager pasture]

The typing angle is 5 degrees which is ideal for typing with or without a wrist rest. * edit it should be 8 degrees @finite meteor is correct.

[finite meteor]

huh? mekanisk states that it is 8 degrees

[patent breach]

I did use it, but the file needs minor modifications to work with a standoff kit. Nothing crazy, just removing two unnecessary holes (not needed but looks cleaner) and change the hole size of some others

I just added the cuts out of curiosity 😅

Okay so this is the Pom plate with flex cuts

It .. similar ?

But much quieter i think

I might have to redo my silicone pour, i think its too thick and flexing my pcb now that the plate isnt steel anymore. My stabs sound way better with the sandwich outside of the case

Here’s to hoping hibis fulfilment windows are more accurate than ramas

[finite meteor]

perfectionist sounds good to me!

[tight siren]

it will fit if and only if you use the custom plate that i made for it

oh i scrolled a little bit more and saw that someone linked my file

but you will need the countersunk screw holes as well as m2.3 screws which i linked in my message as well

[patent breach]

I like everything .. except spacebar, it just keeps coming back with slight ticking. Oh well. It’s fine for now atleast, im quite happy with the plate so far.

[finite meteor]

did you try sticking some material inside the keycap? might dampen it somewhat

[patent breach]

I have tried all of the things before , and nothing ever helped. But im pretty sure its the silicone dampener

Because outside the case the spacebar wasn’t ticking

[minor wave]

managed to finally slap my 60HE in the Frog mini... 'tis so noice...

am missing one stand-off tho and I wanna make some more modifications to the plate to get it just right but i'm very very happy with how it is

[carmine timber]

pics?

[minor wave]

not on this iteration, I'll take some for the next

what's the length needed for the plate stand-offs again?

[patent breach]

3.5mm I think

Does anyone know if liquid silicone is damaging to electronics?

[oak ginkgo]

Not that I know of

[oak ginkgo]

ooh!

I see you filmed your lekkers as well.

[patent breach]

Love the keycaps

[nocturne bluff]

Wait where you buy the films from?

[shrewd hedge]

it’s tx films 0.15mm

[nocturne bluff]

I thought normal films didn't fit.

Nvm

[shrewd hedge]

deskeys didn’t fit. I tried it before

[patent breach]

You can make them fit

If you cut the middle part you can put them on the top housing

Doesn’t look too tidy, but it works

[still laurel]

Like you just cut them in half?

[eager pasture]

Corrected. Thanks. I feels lower than it is.

[flat phoenix]

how much of a difference does it make on the wobbling?

[patent breach]

If you cut them like this, deskeys can work

[shrewd hedge]

It's a little less, but it's still wobbling and the noise is not good for me.

[flat phoenix]

damn

hope they make the lekker switch less wobbly in the future

or make their own films

[shrewd hedge]

I don't like gateron's top housing noise

[patent breach]

I still hope for pom or nylon bottom lekker

[patent breach]

Agreed

[oak ginkgo]

Mine was just some random Amazon brand that was already cut like that.

[patent breach]

Yeah many of them come cut that way already

[oak ginkgo]

Yeah it’s very loud

[patent breach]

But i bought deskeys before i had my 60HE

[oak ginkgo]

Most gaterons are already wobbly

Even Gateron blacks are really wobbly

[patent breach]

I bet drewkeys switch films would work well with lekker

[oak ginkgo]

I had a keychron

[patent breach]

I had a wooting 1 before

[oak ginkgo]

ooh.

the one with the flaretech switch?

and ngl, the ugly ass floating keyswitch design.

I font like floating keyswitches at all.

[regal hound]

His stuff is top quality. Ive used 2 of his coiled cabled and had no issue. Obviously you pay the price for that though 🙂

[patent breach]

Back then, I didn't care for looks that much 🤷🏼‍♂️ I was in it for the analog switches and the fact they're a small company. Someone sold it on eBay locally so I got it for 80€ in like new condition. Purchase was definitely worth it 😀

[oak ginkgo]

nice!

[carmine timber]

yep, can confirm

really amazing stuff, glad I went with him

[regal hound]

He has some really cool stainless steel flame treated stuff that Ive been eyeballing lol

[still laurel]

Would Durock ones work as well if you cut them there? Or is it also the material that matters?

[patent breach]

Should be fine, you're gonna have to bend the film to get them installed so keep that in mind
The slider of Lekker is wider than regular switches

[carmine timber]

ive seen em, really beautiful

[regal hound]

@carmine timber Ive got some cables coming this week or next from https://wiredinstore.com/ so I'll lyk how they compare

[hazy sentinel]

Unlucky, I got a good batch I guess not much wobbling even before filming

[carmine timber]

oo what configuration / color scheme

[regal hound]

I ordered a ghost and a black tuxedo one I think it was

[spring matrix]

should i worry about overheating if i do tempest tape mod? pcb feels kinda warm after using tachyon mode
.
also if i do burger mount should i use longer screws to prevent stripping?

[round dove]

I really didnt feel any sound dif using tape mode

And yea longer screw would be nice

More so you dont struggle

I ordered some nylon screws to test

But for some reason it went to czech instead of nz

[patent breach]

Y'all think this is fixable ?

The a hole who did it btw

[patent breach]

Stay away from them, I tried nylon too. The screw holes are pretty tight so the nylon screw heads start stripping quickly and become annoying to remove immediately

[round dove]

Hmm

[wary mango]

Where did you get the silicone for this?

like did you purchase it or make it?

also, I understand flex plate has a little bit of software trouble, do you think the silicon would affect anything if I used the normal plate?

I wanna use silicone between my plate and pcb too 🤩

I wonder if I can gasket it too

[patent breach]

Kprepublic

Poker silicone dampener is perfect fit for ansi Wooting 60he

I purchased that + iso silicone and cut the lower right part of both, swapped them and punched holes into the dampener for the standoffs

[patent breach]

I used silicone long before I had a custom plate, silicone works great with stock plate

[patent breach]

Sure can, there's a couple cases with gh60 USB c location on the left that are gasket mounted, you just need to make a custom plate with the tabs for the gasket mount

[patent breach]

Ok maybe if you find torx m2 screws made of nylon, I trust torx with my life 🫡ph just starts stripping way to easily

[wary mango]

I already gasket mounted into my case, I've had issues in the past tho with an optical kb where the switches literally flew and popped out b/c the gasket pushed on the foam too much 😭

thanks so much for the answers!

[patent breach]

Maybe try a more rigid plate, idk 🤷🏼‍♂️

[wary mango]

were there any cuts etc. you had to make to the silicone or it works out of the box?

https://kprepublic.com/products/silicone-sound-dampening-noise-absorption-soundproofing-between-plate-and-pcb-similar-with-foam-effect-for-bm60-poker-iso-ec

this one?

[patent breach]

Yessir

Choose poker if you have ansi layout

Leather hole punch works great for making standoff holes

The silicone will probably stick out from left and right of the PCB , if it annoys you you can cut it, but it might provide some additional dampening

And you'll definitely have to adjust the stabilizer holes, especially spacebar (it would cover the leds and wouldn't allow stabs to be installed)

[wary mango]

I prefer it sticking out to stop dust etc.

[wary mango]

what tools do you recommend other than leather punch?

[patent breach]

Exacto knife / scalpel , that's kinda it honestly

Just try being accurate with the hole punch first try , if you mess up a hole it will look ugly quickly 😅 not the end of the world

[wary mango]

I'm not worried about the thing going beneath the plate looking ugly as much as it not functioning well

any advice on lining up the standoff holes?

do you think I could realistically just shove the screw through the silicone?

[patent breach]

You can put the silicone on top, stick a couple switches in (without plate) flip the thing and mark the middle of the standoff holes from the back of the PCB with a needle or black edding /sharpie / whatever

But the marking is easy, silicone is just squishy and hard to put holes in accurately by hand

[wary mango]

wait, is there a difference betqween the bm60 vs pok3r version?

I could swear they look the same

oh nvm, need the pok3r version

[patent breach]

Bottom right switch of bm60 is 1u

Poker is 1.25u so same as 60he

[wary mango]

I think my plan is to get it and lay the original foam over the top

that should be enough to get the holes etc. cut and lined properly

[patent breach]

Works too, didn't even think of that xd

[wary mango]

I'll see if I can remember to post a comparison pic of the foam over the silicone once I have it in hand

[wary mango]

you walked so I could run fellow 60HE enjoyer

🤝

[patent breach]

🤝🏻🫡

[finite meteor]

well, just removed two switches and the north side clips broke on both

Rip

[wary mango]

I'm so terrified for this to happen to me now

😭

I had it happen on other kbs in the past which I was admittedly inexperienced with

[finite meteor]

new technique, I kind of have to push the north side clip first and then slide the prong over it, then wiggle

hoping I'll not break any more as there's the 2 replacement switches but yeah this is gonna take a while lol

[wary mango]

better to err on the side of caution tbh

[finite meteor]

2 broke, 4 okay

for sure, but those are so damn flimsy, you can't push them too much or snap

[wary mango]

I've heard the same thing regarding lubing, apparently less is more 🤷‍♂️

[finite meteor]

south feels a lot sturdier

[patent breach]

Happened to one of my switches as well, but I got a better switch puller from wuque and with that it's a bit easier

[finite meteor]

3 dead now

why do I keep going

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/pew-die-pie-subscribe-to-kaz-memw-gif-13138077

[finite meteor]

alright, 4 clips broke off completely and 3 are probably useless as they'll probably break off when I blow at them

though it seems like the north side clip doesn't do much, the wobble seems to be the same compared to an intact one

and the second one on the right has a bent top-housing now

let's see what I'll break next

[wary mango]

you're making me not want to mod my kb in the future

😭

[finite meteor]

maybe the wooting puller is better or I'm just unlucky, but for now I feel like I can just use these ones anyway, I'll let you know when the whole thing's done

[patent breach]

You can put tape in the switch hole where the clip is broken

Not perfect but better than missing switches

[finite meteor]

seems like they stick to the plate fine without it at least for the one I tried, but let's see

[patent breach]

One tip I have for removing switches, if you take the plate off the PCB you can push the switches from below while pulling from top

Also don't pinch the switch puller to hard, the plastic clips don't need to be pushed in much at all, the fit is just already pretty snug without the clips so you sometimes have to wiggle them out

Starting from the top clip, then doing the bottom clip works pretty well for me most of the time

[finite meteor]

yeah that's what I did, sometimes the clip just pushed in too far, probably because some of them were quite tightly in the plate

[loud belfry]

My technique for removing the switches is to place the switch puller over the tabs, then pull the puller towards myself which pulls the top tab in, then squeeze the puller to push the bottom tab in. Haven't broken any switches this way.

[finite meteor]

in my experience the top tab is very fragile, I could really go to town with the bottom one with no damage

[finite meteor]

aaaaaaaaaaand I'm done, everything works fine

[patent breach]

Totally unrelated, but I just had a customer in our shop who offered me to listen to his mobile audio setup

Consisting of Dan Clark Stealth connected to a FiiO M17

I ended up having a 3h listening session with the guy and my eyes (ears) have been opened

[slow granite]

Hello! Does anyone know if this case is compatible with the 60he? https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=7163

[still laurel]

It looks like it should be. Not sure about the usb c port placement as it would have to fit perfectly but I guess you could try

[silver moon]

Sounds interesting, looks up price no no no nvm

[patent breach]

Guy had me guess the price of his gear, I know Dan Clarks are expensive but I didn't know I held their flagship in my hands at the time

[silver moon]

Yeah lol

Fiio is expensive as f aswell

[still laurel]

Okay now I want magnetic insertion like the WhiteFox Eclipse

[oak ginkgo]

but the magnets will interfere with the hall effect switches lol

but if its a regular keyboard than ig its pretty cool

OOH I HAD THE BEST IDEA EVER

what if we just, flip the polarity of those magnets

[still laurel]

Hmmmmm

[oak ginkgo]

so now its a contactless gasket mount system

[still laurel]

Oh damn lol

Floaty keyboard

[oak ginkgo]

a truly floating keyboard

with magnetic levetation

bruh this is such a big brain idea

[still laurel]

That would be dope lol. Too bad it would fall out if you turned it upside down lol

[oak ginkgo]

lemme get my k8 out and see if I can prove the concept.

[still laurel]

Also would the HE sensors not compensate for any additional magnets when they calibrate on plug-in? Or is the issue that if anything moved it could cause issues

[oak ginkgo]

it will cause issues

[oak ginkgo]

I should call it: The "MagLev" keyboard

[willow ledge]

There have been experiments with maglev keyboards before. There's the Lodestone, for example: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104704.

[oak ginkgo]

it is indeed a cool concept

[regal hound]

Looks great!

[toxic raft]

whats the case?

[sour sun]

Poseidon PSD60 RE Case

[digital cloud]

What are the keycaps?

[sour sun]

https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005004225916409.html?spm=a2g2w.orderdetail.0.0.27424aa6MWPzIp&sku_id=12000028444282327
great quality, except spacebar. light goes through since it's not doubleshot

[regal hound]

@nocturne bluff I started thinking about what you said about slamming your ESC key and how having an artisan would suck. So I took your advice and changed mine to something less pokey

[toxic raft]

thoughts on the sound?

[regal hound]

Def sounds like a keyboard!

[oak furnace]

Made a more proper looking typing test for my definitely not scuffed 60He mod
https://youtu.be/6lp_kJNGPyI

[flat phoenix]

that

is pretty thocky

[oak ginkgo]

what did you do?

[oak furnace]

Main scuffed thing is I swapped to an aluminum plate by getting one on Amazon and supergluing stand offs onto it

[oak ginkgo]

lmao

my build (for now) is a very high pitched clack, but it does sound very nice.

[oak furnace]

Oh nice

I feel like 60He might just be better suited for higher clacks, cus the top out is kinda always high pitched and thock kinda doesn’t match up with it

But idrk

[naive parcel]

link of your aluminum case ???

[oak furnace]

Oh the case I used was the Klippe T https://mekanisk.com/products/klippe-t-keyboard-case-only

[naive parcel]

aluminum plate** sorry

[oak furnace]

Oh lol, I’ll send link ig, but I wouldn’t recommend using it tbh. Supergluing stand offs barely works well enough for the kb to be useable, and stabs are very loose in that plate

I kinda had to shove stuff into the stab slots to prevent them from wobbling

[oak ginkgo]

so you eyeballed the standoffs?

lol

also 5 layers jesus

thats quite excessive

[oak furnace]

No lol. I put all the switches in the plate. Then I screwed the stand offs on through the pcb, then dabbed glue on each stand off and mashed plate and pcb together

[oak ginkgo]

lmao

[oak furnace]

So the switch “pins” lined it up for me lol

Superglue does not withstand torsion very well tho

The stand offs break off the plate very easily if you try adjusting the screws

[oak ginkgo]

damn.

[oak furnace]

Also they end up glued to the foam

[oak ginkgo]

how did it get to 5 layers?

I only have 3 layers

[oak furnace]

I kinda just messed around with diff configs

And 5 ended up sounding good

[still laurel]

5 layers of what exactly?

[naive parcel]

Did someone swap the stock plate to a brass plate ?

[oak ginkgo]

tape mod

[still laurel]

Ah

[oak ginkgo]

not that I know of.

[oak furnace]

There’s been some ppl that have done it

Someone did a brass plate poron gasket mount mod iirc

[oak furnace]

#996573707235491950 message

[vagrant kernel]

that's one hell of a wooting

great job, love the colors

[gusty tiger]

is your spacebar backwards? sry if im late

[umbral elbow]

Let this project begin!

[oak ginkgo]

Oh boy

[bleak cosmos]

did he ever post an update on how well its working, also did he ever post his cad files?

[regal hound]

Speaking of cad files, my next wooting case experiment. Hive60

[oak furnace]

Is that a 3dp plate?

[regal hound]

yes, I always test fit with 3dp before I pay for metal cut

[oak furnace]

Ah that makes sense

[patent breach]

I wonder , is there any place you can get machined / laser cut titanium plates ? 🤔 I think send cut send does ti but I was hoping for something within europe

[patent breach]

That's sick, let me know how it went 🫡

[oak ginkgo]

Do some research

Find a local machine shop that can machine plates.

Although idk the exact thickness of the wooting plate (it’s probably 1/8 inch thick)

[patent breach]

1.5mm I think

[fresh jackal]

Keep in mind the switch plate has to include the standoffs.

[patent breach]

Well, it just needs the holes for kbdfans standoff kit

[fresh jackal]

The standoffs that keep the PCB and switch plate together.

[patent breach]

Same process as my pom plate

I know sir 🫡

[oak ginkgo]

I think those are soldered/welded on

[patent breach]

Have done that yesterday with my pom plate so I know the process

[fresh jackal]

Sure are. Still need to be accounted for and present though 🙂

[oak ginkgo]

Indeed

[oak ginkgo]

Although looking at the 3D print there do seem to be screw holes where the standoffs will be screwed onto the plate.

And they are countersink too.

[fresh jackal]

As part of a larger redesign and optimization of the Discord, we're merging the two (soon to be three) modding threads into just using the channel as a whole.

We're keeping the threads open for replies shortterm, and will keep them archived for posterity longterm to allow for people to look up the mountains of knowledge and answers already present there.

Hope Y'all like the change 🙂

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692

[fresh jackal]

There - You got your wish, @regal hound

[regal hound]

Thank you lol!

[floral ruin]

i found that adding some climbers tape to my bigger keycaps help with making them sound more full

feels nice just wondering what case i should do

[unreal mauve]

Just to be sure is it normal that my case is slightly warm ?

[oak ginkgo]

Yeah, mine gets a little warm too, that’s just the heat from the LEDs and the mosfets.

It should really only be barely warmer than it’s surroundings

Not hot.

[unreal mauve]

Ok thank you it was really to be sure xD

[lavish anvil]

Hey, i currently use the stock case with the white pbt keycaps and i wanna buy a tofu60 for it should i get one in black, white or gray? And this is how my set up looks so i cant really decide

[oak ginkgo]

White

[lavish anvil]

ok

[oak ginkgo]

It will contrast really well with the black deskmat.

[tawdry ivy]

the big question is can you even find those colors

[unreal mauve]

Clean setup

[gusty tiger]

so many things in this drive me insane😂 monitor off to far, lights on the left wall with one tiny thing hung infront of you and its off center😂💀

[regal hound]

@fresh jackal lock this channel because no one will see the sticky haha

https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/984799440072220692 New Mod Channel

[velvet spindle]

:)

60he custom mods

@deep estuary

[inland hornet]

Can't decide between 5 degree or blade60 :(

[deep jackal]

ayo

👀

I'm still waiting on my tofu 60 case to come in

and my buddy sent me some PE Foam he had laying around so that's gonna be fun when it comes

[latent hatch]

You gonna replace the stabs? I can’t wait to do all this. Tofu 60 is so dope.

[deep jackal]

probably not i'm going to try to holee mod them and maybe syringe lube them stabs are the last thing i'm going for

[latent hatch]

Wicked post some pics when they allow.

[hearty knoll]

👀

[mystic blaze]

noice

[lusty pond]

Very nice

[restive thorn]

a friend of mine asks if there is also an aluminum case for full-size keyboards, have any of you already seen any?

[hybrid rapids]

:>

[restive thorn]

😬

[worldly bison]

tofu60>tofu65>blade60/65>5 degree imo

[worldly bison]

damn, thats the rarest thing in this hobby

I can't wait for people to start talking about flex and sound mods for the 60he in this thread

[inland hornet]

I'm kinda digging the blade60 since it kinda matches my meshify 2 compact case

[final crystal]

guys will the o ring mount for the tofu work for the wooting 60?

the flex wouldnt interfere with the magnet right?

[willow gate]

any issues if I just gummy o ring mount it in a bakeneko60?

I am assuming not given the travel detection would only concern the flex of the plate and not the whole entire switch/plate/pcb assembly

[willow gate]

would there be any issue if I added switch films to these switches?

just want to make sure that the housing will be as tight as possible

but I have a feeling that because of the extra material from the films that there would be an ever so slight increase in distance due to the switch films thickness being .15mm thick

[stark jay]

I don't think the Bakeneko60 would work due to the center usb placement unless theres a way to switch it to the daughterboard that's in the Bakeneko60. I have two Bakenekos and I thought about it as well lol @willow gate

[willow gate]

Didn’t think about usb port placement, but yea doesn’t seem likely now

[stark jay]

Yeah, I may go with the Blade60 or the TOFU60 as those seem to be the best options. Badseed Tech also talked about some other case in his latest review of the 60HE

[restive thorn]

what can you do if the switch in the plate has play and wobbles?

[fossil venture]

Should be a couple of spare switches in the box, maybe try pulling and reseating the switch, if that doesn't help swap it for a spare and see if it's the switch or the plate that has an issue.

[bold skiff]

@torn shoal would like a sound test, but was too shy to ask

[lusty pond]

Am I first to do plate change?

[deep jackal]

what plate did you use?

[lusty pond]

I currently used the Drop Corina Copper plate with standoff mod kit

[deep jackal]

nice nice

any troubles with actuation point or any analogue features?

[lusty pond]

Atm it looks to be fine, I popped in a few switches to test otherwise I'm not going to be 100% positive

I'm still filming my switches atm

[thin flame]

does the lecker switch have interference with cherry profile keycaps?

[lusty pond]

Depending on the keycaps, you may have to turn the switches 180 (aka north to south facing)

I would try two switches first, one north, one south and then go from there

[thin flame]

oh ok

[fossil venture]

You're brave, the advice so far has been not to change the plate as the thickness and material can both impact the calibration of the HE switches. Hopefully it'll all still work and you won't end up getting like 0.5mm actuation when you set 0.1mm or anything weird like that.

[restive thorn]

is the sound with the other plate even better ?

[minor kettle]

😋 That thock

[autumn smelt]

repost

[minor kettle]

Oh god the rgb into the case 😍

[autumn smelt]

Looks clean

[glacial harbor]

@minor kettle can you give us a look at all your artisan keycaps?

[minor kettle]

Sure give me a sec.

[fossil venture]

I am lazy and don't want to measure... anyone know the length of the cable included with the 60HE?

[glacial harbor]

probably like 6ft im guessing

[glacial harbor]

where did you get those white ones? i like those a lot

[minor kettle]

You mean the normal keycaps with numbers?

[glacial harbor]

no no

the quartz looking ones

sorry

second picture

[minor kettle]

Oh!

It's this artisan call Mozicap

Let me Pm you the link

But... You won't wanna jump into this rabbit hole tho

😂

[glacial harbor]

i have only 1 right now and i already want more lol

[minor kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-yay-african-child-screaming-shouting-gif-7212866

[mystic blaze]

you will know pain!

or wake up to reality!

[glacial harbor]

[autumn smelt]

does wooting fit asa prifle

or nah

[glacial harbor]

it does

i got asa profile keycaps but i dont have my keyboard yet

but yeah, they will

which asa colorway are you getting?

@autumn smelt

[autumn smelt]

Akko

Lemme pull it up

https://en.akkogear.com/product/black-bronze-keycap-set-158-key/

[glacial harbor]

oh yeah those are nice

[autumn smelt]

Also decided to just shell out n get a blade 60

[glacial harbor]

which color blade60 did you order?

[autumn smelt]

Haven’t ordered yet but

Prob gonna get white

[glacial harbor]

yellow would look good with the keycap set

[autumn smelt]

True

I might not get those keycaps actually