60he community modding

[regal hound]

Hmmm thats a tough one yeah. I do feel like all the modding stuff could be consolidated a bit to save repeating and pinning info in other channels daily. As an example you could group up rocket-league, osu_ and game_talk into a new Games group with each as a sub channel, and tech_talk, lekker_switch, modding, under a single group. I dunno just spouting off

So maybe not less channels but less groups thats are more defined and consolidated. Ill see a user post in wooting_60he and I_have_my_wooting_keyboard with the same question

[hearty dew]

is it even necessary to have separate channels for the 60he modding and the two he modding?

[regal hound]

Probably not and maybe not even for the osu pad, so in theory you could combine them if channel qty is a concern, or yeah you could just make a Wooting_Moddding single channel

But you also dont want to exclude anyone (including those pesky two he users)

[fresh jackal]

Taking all feedback. Good and bad 😄

[nocturne bluff]

I want this now.. I support HIBI

[frail willow]

i just got my wooting60... its definitely fast, but from a mech keyboard background, it definitely needs some work for a better typing experience, haven't done any gaming yet

stabs surprisingly feel really good though

the keys have a bit too much wobble, and plasticky sound to them

[regal hound]

Sounds like its time for a lube job, case swap and keycap upgrade!

[simple panther]

Tirade making a business out here lmao

[round dove]

Would buy if it had more color options

[wary mango]

Seems like a really good case. Are there any sound tests that have been uploaded or just imgs?

[winter trail]

✨

[wary mango]

https://tenor.com/view/we-live-in-a-society-society-joker-gamers-rise-up-gang-weed-gif-13919217

great execution though

[winter trail]

Deal with it

Ty

[wary mango]

awful, awful taste

but the execution is really nice

!

[winter trail]

Lmao

[wary mango]

matching colour scheme is really cool, black contrasts well with the white case too

[winter trail]

Yea and it makes the leds appear more vibrant

[frail willow]

really impressed with the software

[wary mango]

yeah there's really no comparison with other companies

wootility 10/10, I do wish wootomation was built-in though

[frail willow]

is there a easy mod for the backplate?

[wary mango]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

I think some ppl have gotten custom plates made

[frail willow]

yea it'll be easier if i can just order it one somewhere, not sure of any cheap CNC sites

i think most of what i dislike about the sound is the backplate ping

[wary mango]

you could try using a sound dampener in your case

though those aren't cheap either

[regal hound]

@simple panther nah, Im tapped out, barely have anything left. Just here to help like always.

[ancient pecan]

I was looking at those keycaps myself, they look pretty clean!

[winter trail]

Yup ^^ If you don't look too much at the sides of the keycaps where the print streches out, its pretty nice

[ancient pecan]

Does it sound good?

[still laurel]

Finally got around to testing the silicone mod on a single switch. G is default, H is modded
Going to try and put a tiny layer on the bottom of the stem as well to see if I can dampen the bottom out as well

[round dove]

Less wobble sound when the switch comes back up

[still laurel]

What latex did you get? https://scarff.id.au/blog/2020/silenced-kailh-speed-copper-switches/ this guy recommends Permatex Ultra Blue silicone gasket maker instead of latex (apparently latex can interact with the oil in lube). It made a decent dent in sound of you watch my video above

[frail valley]

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B06X9B3TF9

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Permatex-230-81160-Silicone-Gasket-Maker/dp/B0002UEN1A found this instead but idk if i wanna try more with the latex stuff

[still laurel]

Or I guess maybe it’s less important which one and more important how you applied it

[frail valley]

made sure to do it like it was shown in one of those albums, enough for it to have surface tension show properly

[still laurel]

The gasket maker is pretty thick which makes it easier to work with

[frail valley]

should i try this stuff instead?

[still laurel]

Like it’s spreadable lol. The link I sent show a tiny bead of it on the head of a screwdriver

Try and find the “ultra blue” stuff

I think they have different rigidities

[frail valley]

german amazon only has ultra grey/ultra black

and the ultra black one is 60 fucking EUR lmfao

ultra grey is a bit cheaper

9 EUR

"Permatex Ultra Black retains high flexibility and oil resistant properties through use of a patented adhesion system"

[still laurel]

Yeah I’m not sure what the differences are between the colors

[frail valley]

damn it. it might genuinely be the choice here

[still laurel]

Oh apparently blue is 30A of hardness vs >45A for gray. Idk about black haha

[frail valley]

ah, i see

yeah probably want to try to go for blue then

i'd guess that if the material is harder, the clack will still be loud

[still laurel]

Yeah he originally tried some other silicone but it didn’t sue anything cuz it was too thin and hard

Also if you don’t have one, get a super small flathead (2.5mm width). Tiny bead on that allows you to apply it pretty evenly and also shape it a bit

[frail valley]

tried something else

wanted to see if the lekker switches fit into the bakeneko's fr4 plate

...they do.

so out of sheer interest, i lubed a switch somewhat liberally (not to the point of sluggishness, but more than i'd normally use and i put special care to the top housing)

...bad upstroke noise is gone. GONE.

as such: i now require an fr4 plate for the wooting

i put the same lubed switch into the stock assembly and the upstroke noise returned

so yeah. safe to say it's the plate

i wonder if fr4 is magnetic tho and could mess with the sensors

[fresh jackal]

It's too flexible

[frail valley]

ah, so it'd cause inaccurate inputs?

[fresh jackal]

Mhmm. That's why we use steel.

[frail valley]

i see

that is a price i am willing to pay.

understandable though

though i wonder, by how much does it make it inaccurate?

[fresh jackal]

Unsuable potentially.

[frail valley]

oh, huh. interesting...

[fresh jackal]

If it can't get accurate reads, you could have ghost inputs.

[frail valley]

i see, thanks for the info

i might still experiment with it a bunch on my own accord and see if i can get an usable combination tho

[oak ginkgo]

I could make a steel gasket mount plate

[frail valley]

i wonder how much that ends up helping in total

but it also begs the question, which case would hold a 60% gasket mount case?

like i don't know if a bakeneko-like assembly will work, i think i've read something along the lines of "the plate will just pop out" at one point

[oak ginkgo]

tofu60 2.0

[frail valley]

oh shit, right

[oak ginkgo]

its gasket mount

keychron Q4 is another really good option

[frail valley]

this could get very interesting

i wonder if the gasket mount helps it

[oak ginkgo]

it would benefit the wooting alot

especially in the feel.

[frail valley]

though i also partially wonder, what if there was a 60% case that lets you gasket mount any pcb

i wonder if that'd help it or not

[oak ginkgo]

dunno if that exists

[frail valley]

was curious a bit more. i removed the plate foam between the pcb and plate on the wooting and decided to see if the wooting pcb can gasket mount into the original case

...it fucking can. rofl

not even the usb port is in the way, really

it still fits

though i don't know if i can make out a discernable change in acoustics or not

[feral siren]

Traditional thock is hard, because of the lack of a pole on the lower casing (there’s a hole instead) best you can do is stuff with dampening and lube.

[feral siren]

Or for a loudest pop possible skip all foams, maybe just the pe sheet on the pcb

[regal hound]

@oak ginkgo The Tofu2.0 wouldnt hold a 60HE in gasket mount form. It has a center USB

There are quite a few gasket or top mount cases/boards that do work with the 60HE if you have a plate made. If someone is really interested let me know and Ill give you a list. I do know that plates have already been created for the Frog Mini and Raindrop 60. I'm currently working on plates for a Hive60 so hopefully that will be done soon.

[oak ginkgo]

nothing that my CNC mill cant fix!

lol

[finite meteor]

you could just peck through the case for another hole

[frail valley]

oh yeah, a bit of a thought for non-steel plates, why not use more standoffs so there's more stability in the plate? i think the main drawback of the steel plate is how pingy it is

and that could also contribute to the increased upstroke noise, i think

now i genuinely wonder how a very rigid plastic plate would sound like

which has a bunch of extra rubberized standoffs to make sure the plate can't bounce

[void dust]

You'd need to make sure you can still screw the pcb into the play if you go custom

since the PCB isn't really attached to the switches

[still laurel]

Time to mod some switches 😰

[vivid scarab]

https://amzn.eu/d/77S8ok5
would the small o rings from this work to burger mount?

[regal hound]

Yes

[worthy barn]

oh hell noooo the worst part

[gaunt minnow]

Does the lube affect the magnet censor or nah

[worthy barn]

avoid lubing the bottom of the stem and you should be good

femto is bad character >:Y

[still laurel]

This shit is so finicky. Going to end up being almost 8 hours for the whole keeb 💀

[frosty geyser]

Is that mod for silent?

[still laurel]

Yeah it makes them similar to silent reds

[still laurel]

Sound test between stock and modded

[gaunt minnow]

The 60he fits well with the Klippe T but it’s a little high for it

Do I have to remove the top part

I try to fit but the port doesn’t fit

[fresh jackal]

You need new foam.

[gaunt minnow]

Oh

I just remove the top part

[subtle furnace]

Can I use the stock foam for the klippe T?

[gaunt minnow]

Just remove the top of the foam

And you’re good

[fresh jackal]

Does anyone here happen to have a photo or two of the Ducky Mecha Mini case without PCB or anything inside? It is supposedly compatible, but before I put it on the official list, I'd like to double check there aren't any risks 🙂

Feel free to ping/pm me.

[round dove]

I had it but sold it literally last sunday lol

[round dove]

Heres one from google

Its the same thing as one two mini

Another one from google

[fresh jackal]

Oofda. Noticeably different cases.

[round dove]

The top one is one two mini, bottom is mecha sorry

But they should both work

Standard tray mount points

[frail valley]

exactly. the idea is still have the screw posts but also add extra rubber posts to give the plate more stability

i wonder if that way, fr4/pom could work

because that steel plate do be pingy doe

[fresh jackal]

It's not the mount points that worry me. It's everything else poking up.

Since the 60HE components are bottom side mounted

[round dove]

I was able to fit it in with case foam

So i dont think thats an issue

Standoffs are tall enough

[fresh jackal]

The standoffs are still not the issue.

It's the other things poking up, potentially killing the PCB (Speaking from experience)

[rough tartan]

hey guys, can anyone recommend a aluminum case for the wooting 60he that is actually available right now? I missed my chance on getting a tofu 60% v1 😦 been looking everywhere for one but it seems no one has them in stock anymore.

ideally cnc silver or grey aluminum case, any help appreciated!

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

A place to start.

[rough tartan]

thanks mate! the mekanisk klippe t is exactly what I was looking for!

[tardy spire]

can anyone recommend keycaps?

[tawdry ivy]

There are less clouds in the sky than keycap options, you’ll probably want to give people budget, color, material preferred if you want recommendations

[spiral quiver]

There's also profiles to consider lol

[naive parcel]

It’s so cool the stems are magnetics 🤣

[wind gyro]

60HE in a Tric60 case with GMK Calm depths and the Wooting silicone wrist rest.

[hazy sentinel]

Wooting is done
Mods done:
Case swap with a wood case
Burger mount
Lubed switches and springs, switched springs for 50g ones
Keycap swap for KAT BoW
Was really happy with the stock stabs, I could see the lube coming of them

[still laurel]

What case?

[hazy sentinel]

Case I got off etsy

I can link

Lohacustom was the brand iirc

I might remove stock foams, I'm not too sure

Sounds kinda muted

Thoughts?

[spark drift]

Have always loved the Ducky keycap designs, but after briefly checking etsy and google I haven’t found anything similar (lots of artwork but never the shinethrough silhouettes). Felt like this channel might have some suggestions? Thanks for any help 🙂

(specifically the spacebar in this pic)

[naive parcel]

Someone did the holee mod on the original stabs ??

[hazy sentinel]

I was happy with the stock stabs so I didn't mess with them

[round dove]

Nothing is poking up tho, prop up mechanism is at same level as the rest of the case

[fresh jackal]

I can't tell that from those photos. So... yeah

[lavish anvil]

how many layers of tape should i add when tape modding?

[regal hound]

The short answer is as many as sounds best to you. The long answer is that most people dont believe there is a measurable difference in tape modding this board (myself included)

[lavish anvil]

so u wouldnt say its worth taping it?

[regal hound]

I do not think its worth it and I know Wooting tried it as well on their official youtube and also found it did not make a difference. If you want to mod for modding sake then go for it and try it out but it didnt make a difference for me and Ive even read of a few users believing that it contributed to some ghost input issues when they tape modded

[patent breach]

Maybe don't pe mod the 60he..

I don't know what exactly caused this, maybe heat from the LEDs or smth, but the pe foam is glued to the PCB after having it installed a couple of months

[regal hound]

Almost guaranteed to be due to heat

[patent breach]

I thought pe foam was a little better at that honestly

[hazy sentinel]

Any thoughts on if this sounds muted or not?

[regal hound]

Some of the boards get hot. This isnt a 60HE but you can see what the LED's did on the bottom of this Tofu after a year

[hazy sentinel]

[patent breach]

Damn kinda sucks
Though you could call it battle scarred

[regal hound]

haha for sure

[patent breach]

Any idea how I get that pe goo off?

[hazy sentinel]

70% iso alc?

Idk if that's safe or not

[patent breach]

I've done similar things to similar products before with success, but I would be devastated to destroy my 60he

[regal hound]

90% alcohol and sufficient dry time is usually safe for electronics

Ask Wooting tech support first though!

[patent breach]

Ight I have some disinfectant spray that's like 95% ethanol

[regal hound]

I dont know about that spray, I use these in a pinch and even at 70% they work ok for cleaning stuff up - https://www.amazon.com/Medical-Grade-Individually-Wrapped-Isopropyl-Disposable-Antiseptic/dp/B07F2N14FV/ref=sxts_rp_s_a_1_0?content-id=amzn1.sym.eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4%3Aamzn1.sym.eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4&cv_ct_cx=alcohol+pads&keywords=alcohol+pads&pd_rd_i=B07F2N14FV&pd_rd_r=8763c206-1743-469d-992c-6da121bc86df&pd_rd_w=Md1Be&pd_rd_wg=Bug4Z&pf_rd_p=eff26b9b-e255-411b-a40d-eccb21f93fe4&pf_rd_r=1ZNS5T9MGV1QEQMZSNB9&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sr=1-1-5985efba-8948-4f09-9122-d605505c9d1e

[patent breach]

I don't have nearly enough of those laying around

[regal hound]

You gotta dig through your first aid kit 🙂

[patent breach]

It almost feels illegal to say this, I dont have one 😅

I think I might chance it with the spray and some cloth

Paper towel vs micro fiber 🤔
Update: paper towel rubbed itself away and microfiber only smeared the stuff across the board, but didn't remove it. I have no idea how to get it off at this point, might just have to live with it 😅
I absolutely do not recommend pe foam when using backlight. The residue is extremely annoying

[patent breach]

Silicone sheet mod instead!

[flat phoenix]

I also just removed the top part

[winter trail]

sleek

[flat phoenix]

is there a sound difference between the klippe t and the fjell?

[gusty tiger]

i’m sure, the weight is very different

[flat phoenix]

Well yeah but I want to know how it sounds in words if u know what I mean

Like deeper, clackier, louder

[gusty tiger]

@regal hound

[regal hound]

They are both aluminum cases and sound very similar. The Fjell is more expensive because it's twice the weight of Klippe, has the copper accents/weight and the beveled edges.

[flat phoenix]

Thank you

[regal hound]

No worries! Don't spend money if you don't need to. The Fjell is heavier and thicker so has a little less resonance and does sound a bit less hollow, but unless you want the best of the best, it's not worth the additional $150-$200 if you already own the Klippe

[hearty dew]

you mean the fjell with the first one

[regal hound]

Yeah fixed!

[gusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-22057358

you da GOAT 🤘🏼 thank you

[gusty tiger]

🤓 so are you fjellin it up?

[bronze agate]

my nuphy ghostbar came in, I can confirm it definitely makes my spacebar around 30-50% quieter

did not experience any mushy feeling that you would get if you used a silent switch

note, 1 of the spacebars came perfectly balanced, but 1 of the spacebars had the typical warp that nearly all keycap sets have

from their website sound tests, it seems that it reduces the sound of spacebar rattle, but my spacebar wasn't rattley to begin with so I can't confirm or deny this claim

[simple panther]

Has anyone changed the stabilizers in the wooting or are the factory ones good enough?

[last coral]

Most people here say the original stabs are good, no need to change. Just lube them

[hazy sentinel]

I finally finished modding mine
I went for a japenese vibe with a bamboo case and i love it
lubed southfacing switches
keycaps: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BB4WF9H?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[prime eagle]

Just an FYI for anyone wondering. It's only a case and keycap swap. The case is the GH60 Walnut (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYMCJBR). I kept the original foam but it took some heavy persuading to install and line up the USB port. (the port is way off center, but it plugs in just fine)

[void dust]

Purple Fjell, GMK Dots, and a couple hours of lube

and a phone that can't detect vertical or horizontal pictures, apparently

[simple panther]

Keycaps?

[simple panther]

Alright thanks

[hazy sentinel]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09BB4WF9H?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

[abstract pelican]

yo

am i suppose to screw the screw all the way in when im using a seperate board

case

[hazy sentinel]

also i lubed the switches and have the switches south facing for the cherry profile keycaps

[hazy sentinel]

pretty sure youre supposed to screw them in softly like until there is force

unless the type c connector isnt lined up with the case

[abstract pelican]

I applied force until it was allgined

and thats pretyt much it

but it felt a little tight

[hazy sentinel]

i think that should be good

[abstract pelican]

so im just worried

[hazy sentinel]

oh

[regal hound]

Just hand tighten lightly. As long as the screw isnt wobbling or the PCB moving around you're good. I usually never tighten mine all the way down as I like to isolate the PCB as much possible from the case

[wary mango]

This case is awesome! Where can I get one

[still laurel]

What did your heavy persuading involve? I’m looking to get a wooden case at some point so trying to find options that don’t cause issues haha

[wind gyro]

Only possibility would be r/mechmarket . It was only a one-time group buy back in 2016

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=81840.0

[wary mango]

It looks so cool :(

can you share more pics?

[prime eagle]

Just pressing down hard with one arm to squish the foam while screwing in the board.

[teal birch]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832664482405.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt&_randl_shipto=US

a low profile case like this might work

not 100% sure though

[fresh jackal]

Yeah that looks compatible at a glance. Claims to be GH60 compatible and doesn't have any superfluous standoffs anywhere that could cause issues

[opaque basin]

Guess what

Chicken butt

[fresh jackal]

It's MODDING time.

[opaque basin]

The final steps to true ascendant

[void dust]

You're forgetting the $2500 keycult case

Or the $6000 gold coated tungsten tray mount

[opaque basin]

Need a shungite case to keep the 5g away

[feral siren]

A fresh replacement board compared to my original board… I just had to share how shockingly raw the un modded board is like…

Even with the crunchy phone mic the difference is jarring

[opaque basin]

One of my orings popped away. 20$ to the first who finds it

[frail valley]

wait, is there a tray mount 60% keycult?

[opaque basin]

Nvm found it under my bed

Who’s gonna give me 20$

[frail valley]

that's a huge difference lmao

[regal hound]

Its nice to have those comparison videos as people tend to not notice the small changes when you do them incrementally

[opaque basin]

Guys.. it has been a journey

Ain’t nobody believed in me, but god did.

I have now done everything in my power to get out of bronze in VALORANT.
It all started off by buying the 60HE with PBT keycaps.
Almost 2 months later, there I was in my couch, fighting through sweat and almost tears (almost) spending a whole day 14-21 to lube all switches and switch to the lighter springs.
Then I put it in a black Tofu60 case.
Now as the finals steps I have tape modded it (which is the weirdest shit I’ve ever done) and put the tiny o-rings on the screws for a burger mount.
If I can with zero experience so can you! (Hopefully it’s not gonna explode on me in the near future)
Thank you for not just blessing me with this expensive ass keyboard but also the best of the best on the market

[regal hound]

Thats guaranteed to move you up at least 3 ranks

[void dust]

I don't think so, mostly joking

[frail valley]

ngl, would be hilarious if kc still did comms and someone went "hey gamers can you guys make a tray mount thing for my wooting 60he assembly"

[void dust]

Funny but also still $700 minimum

[hazy sentinel]

Tried it out with the kbdfans tape mod thing and with a wood case it makes a slight difference, took off the very top end of the sound but if you didn't ab I'd doubt you'd notice

[wet wind]

I apologize if this has been asked recently, but does anyone know of films that work well with the lekkar switches/how is the process? I’ve heard it’s harder than with typical switches

[hazy sentinel]

I remember of people complaining of problems with films due to the lekker switches being wider than normal mx switches iirc

I think if you get a more flexible film or just get a wider film to begin with you should be fine

[wet wind]

Would a more flexible film be made of a specific material (polycarbonate?) or is it a matter of thickness?

[spiral quiver]

Anyone use mt3 profile keycaps? If so, how do you like them?

[hazy sentinel]

I think its a mix of both

[carmine timber]

@regal hound Voxel coming in hot. almost done

[fresh jackal]

Finally found a set that matches my case perfectly. Though I gotta say - I actually prefer it with the LEDs off for that 2000s Gameboy transparent look.

[simple panther]

Sick

[spiral quiver]

Those would probably be nice on that GBA keyboard too

Mm, guess it would be a bit off

[regal hound]

@fresh jackal love it! Love you're not going the traditional route either. So many options out there that can look and sound good.

[fresh jackal]

I mean to be fair I have two 60HE cases. One in 80s IBM style with matching keycaps and this neon monstrosity to match my PC 😄

Get you one for work and one for gaming 😄

https://imgur.com/a/QVTYZp7
(old corsair keycaps, same purple edition of the B Box case)

[spiral quiver]

Ooh, I like the retro one

[nocturne bluff]

Dude your set up is GOAT

the Mac .. I need that

[regal hound]

I just love that you built both with BBOX cases lol

[fresh jackal]

I bought the purple one because I couldn't find the grey one.

Then of course a week after the first one arrives, someone pokes me about a 2nd hand seller who is selling it with PCB. Managed to get a deal on just the case. With stickers and everything.

So basically two, new cases.

[feral siren]

Do you like purple?

[fresh jackal]

Purple, Pink and Cyan.

The three staples of Miami/Cyberpunk

[woeful crest]

Mansen, are 60HEs compatible with aluminium keycaps? Such as Artisan ones from Salvun? asking for @summer root

[fresh jackal]

In Theory? Yes. Weight wise? No idea.

Those springs are going to feel very soft and light when pushed down by heavy keycaps

[woeful crest]

That's what I thought...

[summer root]

I just want to add a Artisan from salvun thats all

The rest of the caps are normal PBT caps

[woeful crest]

Yes but you gotta take their weight into account for the springs

That's why gamers usually don't change anything from the 60HE, it's perfect as is from a performance standpoint

[summer root]

Thx for the info

[north ledge]

What case is this? It looks so good

[fresh jackal]

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/cyberspace-x-buger-works-box60_2490/

Supported by the 60HE... if you're willing to hurt it

permanently

[north ledge]

what are things I’d have to do

[fresh jackal]

https://www.notion.so/wooting-technologies/Buger-work-BBox-Cases-3c6869a9999b44369cff1b80c98dd19a

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED

https://tenor.com/view/toradora-kitamura-glasses-heh-evil-plan-gif-21328862

[north ledge]

at least all the mods paid off both look great

[north ledge]

What did you use to cut the standoffs like an xacto knife or something more powerful?

[fresh jackal]

Visible on the first photo. I use a cutter on either side of each standoff, then I use the pliers* to wiggle them back and forth till the plastic gave.

[wary mango]

That's the exact case I already have! I love low profile cases, I'm actually looking for one even more low profile than that one. I haven't found one yet but if anyone ever does I'd be happy to be a guinea pig and drop $ for it

[north ledge]

I see the pliers is it the black pen looking thing?

[fresh jackal]

One of these.

[north ledge]

Ahhh I see

Thanks I actually might follow your plan cause I love the look

[fresh jackal]

And then I used a ton of pillow stuffing to fill out the case. Gives it kind of a cloud look inside.

[teal birch]

I don't think I've seen anything lower than this

[north ledge]

Yeah I saw it looks great. Do you mind sending a sound clip it can be here or through dm but I’d like to hear the sound

[fresh jackal]

Don't have a stock 60HE...or a 60HE that's unlubed 😄

I did a sound comparison way, way up in the channel somewhere.

Like months ago.

[north ledge]

I’ll try and search for it

[wary mango]

Me neither, but I'm hopeful

the case definitely has room to be made even more minimal while still being sturdy

the aluminium is amazing though, my only gripe is I definitely prefer boxed off corners compared to the rounded ones

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002995976407.html

There's this one but it needs a custom plate

[teal birch]

yeah but that wont work for us unfortunately

so we'll have to wait until someone figures out how to make plates that are compatible/wont cause issues

[upper mist]

Holy tracking metadata, batman. Here let me fix that for you
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002995976407.html

[north ledge]

I found it and it sounds great

[fresh jackal]

I did have a chance to compare a stock 60HE to my lubed PCB. And it is a wild difference. Definitely recommend it for the sound and smooth feeling - if you can stand spending ... 4-5 hours 😄

[north ledge]

Oh that’s the first thing I was put on a show and get to work on the advanced lubing

It was my first time doing any lubing ever so took like 8 hours but go it done

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[hazy sentinel]

Final result, added tape mod and fixed some overlubed switches

[hazy sentinel]

Lubed PCB?

[fresh jackal]

PCBA 😄

On phone. It autocorrected me a bit.

aka. the whole sandwich

[hazy sentinel]

Ah

[still laurel]

Is that the GH60, Anne, or GK61-1 version of the case from here? https://www.etsy.com/listing/1185916625/gh60annegk61-1-walnut-woodkeyboard-case

[hazy sentinel]

Yes

[still laurel]

And what’s even the difference between the 3?

[hazy sentinel]

I think its just the cut out for wireless

Really love it with the wooting

[still laurel]

Ah okay. Did you have to do any work to get it to fit? Or first try worked?

[hazy sentinel]

Worked first try

Foam might take of pushing to get in but shouldn't be too hard

[vagrant kernel]

beige, very based

[oak ginkgo]

Why not sound dampening foam used for audio?

[finite meteor]

better to sleep on

[bleak cosmos]

can anyone send link for replacement foam inbetween plate and pcb

i dun goofd

[surreal swan]

oof - you can probably email wooting to buy a replacement. If they allow it it's a special order so there's no link.

[bleak cosmos]

i highly doubt they would do that unless its under warranty

[daring smelt]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005344620473.html?channel=twinner

Is this case compatible? I think its new on aliexpress havnt seen it before. Just want to check the screw points because it seems like some are missing

[regal hound]

@bleak cosmos Ive used this before and it would likely work with the wooting as well (not a promise, just a guess) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09W8RR8L7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[latent sedge]

Anyone use polyfill in their custom 60he instead of foam?

[hearty dew]

pretty sure @fresh jackal did

[regal hound]

A few of us have used polyfill (I actually prefer it in aluminum cases)

[still laurel]

Has anyone made a concrete case before? Maybe I’m just weird but I’m very curious what it would sound like

[hazy sentinel]

That sounds like an absolute pain to make

Also would probably damage your table

[still laurel]

Lol. I think you could do it with a mold as it’s pourable. Im also very curious about a ceramic case but that gets even harder considering ceramic shrinks by like 10% when it’s fired

[latent sedge]

@hearty dew thanks. I'm going to try it now lol

@regal hound Is there a drastic change to the sound profile? What do you like about it?

[regal hound]

@still laurel there are already concrete cases and people have tried them

https://www.keebconcrete.com/

[still laurel]

Oh woah lol

[gusty tiger]

Did you preorder one?

[regal hound]

No, I have enough cases

[surreal swan]

I suggested it because they allowed me to buy replacement out of warranty. Doesn't hurt to try

[fresh jackal]

Because it's s lot easier to stuff with stuffing than try and get foam pieces everywhere

[tawdry ivy]

Looks like freebird60s will start next batch orders sometime in next month or so

[severe cape]

hei i got my wooting and i want to move the body to a tofu case, but i m not sure about this screw holes in the tofu, do i take out those yellow bits?

[patent sorrel]

Can someone give me like 20 o rings? I don't need 200

[glossy ermine]

they look like plugs to prevent the treads from getting clogged when coating, you can remove them

[regal plank]

Got a super minimal aluminium case I really like. But the white backplate is bugging me a little. How hard is the switch out, and any recommendations?

[fresh jackal]

Switch out? Not very. Custom work.
Sand down and paint black? Much easier - But you would lose some LED

It's white specifically to help the LEDs shine brighter overall.

[regal plank]

Yeah was considering the paint black option. But would like a spare if it looks terrible.

Don't mind having less RGB, I have them super low brightness right now anyways.

Also anyone have any good recommendations for blank black keycaps?

[ancient pecan]

Dang putting a tape mod on you can really hear that stab rattle

[fresh jackal]

We do sell spare parts as needed. Though shipping can take a while if you're far from Europe.

[regal plank]

Ooh useful info. Where would I find these? I'm UK based.

[fresh jackal]

You'd have to do the oldschool thing and send us an email asking about this 😄

[e-mail]

We don't have a website or anything for it - And we hand pack everything at the main office as well.

[regal plank]

Ahh that's cool though, will send an email through!

[ancient pecan]

It sounds much better now though 👍

Later on once I get new keycaps and modding supplies going to sit down and lube switches and holee mod stabs

For some reason my space bar sounds a little hollow?

[oak ginkgo]

What if I overlay a custom silkscreen on the pcb.

I have a hot air rework station, soldering is nothing new to me.

Also I reverse engineered pcbs. Maybe I can make a custom pcb that can take custom plates.

Ooh, maybe even a gasket mounted plate

[fresh jackal]

Not going to lie it would be interesting to see someone make a gasket plate that used screw stabs.

[oak ginkgo]

Only thing I risk doing is wrecking some hall sensors and LEDs

Although I’m pretty sure I can get them from digikey if I look hard enough.

4 layer pcb? No problem.

[nocturne bluff]

Did you know why Wooting made plate over screw in stabs in the first place? it's like going backwards for stabs

[fresh jackal]

Timing?

The 60HE design is over two years old by now.

We could make a redesign, but that would complicate warranty.

That's way above my paygrade. #archived_feed_us_back

[nocturne bluff]

Fair fair, but I know I had screw in stabs like 4 years ago on keyboards. Just curious. Wooting is so far ahead on most things except the stabs, I'll def rebuy when they have screw in stabs. Also a Nice alu stock case (so we don't have to buy 3rd party) would be nice.

[regal hound]

@nocturne bluff are the plate mounted stabs causing you an issue?

I actually prefer them on the wooting because it allows for gummy o-ring mounted that wouldnt be possible with screw-in stabs

[nocturne bluff]

How does screw in stabs matter with any mounting? The difference is the plate is cut more and the stabs are screwed to the pcb. Should have no factor into any mounting. I say like 99% percent of any premium keyboard that you see "Gummy o-ring mount" or gastket/insert mounting ... use screw in stabs

[regal hound]

gummy o-ring mounting is not the same as burger mounting using tiny o-rings (fairly common misunderstanding). Its also called friction fit mounting. Its a large o-ring going around the entire PCB

[nocturne bluff]

Yes. But how does screw in stabs affect the plate. It doesn't change it other than the cut outs inside. Do you know what screw in stabs are?

[regal hound]

Screw in stabs on a 60% board are directly on the edge for the spacebar and the backspace key and do not allow the o-ring to fit evenly around it. I can show you a visual example if that helps

[nocturne bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uohbf2UH6FY This is gummy oring with a tofu60... screw in stabs

[regal hound]

Yes grasshopper it is, but its using a special PCB designed to allow this

Its the only PCB that works with screw-ins for this mounting method

[nocturne bluff]

I mean to each their own

[regal hound]

and I do own 3 of them

[nocturne bluff]

I'd rather have screw in stabs

You can use plate mount

[regal hound]

I was only asking if you were having issues with your stabs. the only advantage to screw-ins is less wobble, but my wooting ones have zero wobble

[nocturne bluff]

The last keyboard I bought that had plate mount was like a NK65 like 3/4 years ago

[fresh jackal]

Why does that look like he's about to spank that keyboard with the string?

[regal hound]

Its part of the process. Just go with it

[surreal swan]

@regal hound can I gummy my woot with tofu? Do you know what ring to get? Worth it?

[regal hound]

https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-m-o-rings size medium

[bleak cosmos]

what case is that, looks perfect for me.

i used to use a g915 tkl and like a slim design.

[still laurel]

Wtf happened with your plug

[nocturne bluff]

Dude did he chew it??

[regal hound]

haha this is funny but if I were a betting man Id say his cable end was too large to fit into the previous case opening so he grinded it off a bit

For example on my Baldr60 case the blue cable end is too wide but the gray fits

[gusty tiger]

naughty keyboard

[tight siren]

Brutal60 on sale at cannonkeys! Should work with the plate i made if anyone wants to give it a go :p

[north ledge]

@fresh jackal when you get a chance and if you remember what kind of fluff did you use I’m kind of confused on what I’m looking for

[loud belfry]

Polyfill like for a pillow.

[leaden nebula]

i literally just ripped open a pillow i dont use and put that in

[cerulean glacier]

so what does the "Tape Mod" do? Its Taping the backside of the PCB, right?

[upper mist]

Mansen used only the finest duckling down, plucked straight from the source

[fresh jackal]

I wholeass went down to the local hobby and craft store and grabbed a couch pillow with some polyester fluff (They even had samples you could touch and compare with, and the ones I grabbed were supposedly ESD safe)

Though just in case I did apply electrical tape on the PCB all around the USB connector where the PCB isn't coated to protect against spills and light ESD. (static discharge)

[regal plank]

oh god was hoping no one would notice this. Was an amazon basic black cable I had lying around. As someone suspected had to cut it down to fit.

Have sanded down a bunch now so it looks a lot less horrible + I really don't see it from any angle.

[regal plank]

I'm coming round to the idea of just risking ruining everything with the paint back-plate. Any spray paint recommendations (or types to avoid)?

[fresh jackal]

No clue. I don't spray paint things in general 😄

I figure a bit of sandpaper and black primer should do the trick? Just regular rattle can automotive paint?

[regal plank]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XNPN32R?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details This is the case. It does have a hole on the bottom for wireless keyboards + you'll need a thin usb-c cable to make it fit (or cut down your cable as you can see mine above). It did have some scratches on the inside but fits almost perfectly otherwise. It also arrived for me much faster than suggested.

[regal plank]

Ok thats what I thought. I was also thinking I could 3D print a backplate in black (I have printer and black filament) gonna be annoying to 3D model perfectly.

Might ruin sound though.

Mabye just painting this area (or using vinyll (just to the width of where spacebar LED gap is would stop the white outer spill but keep nice glow from behind keys.

[next hatch]

What lighter switches for possibly lighter switches and lubing is good for wooting60. This my first time going through this process so I’m just trying to figure out to not assume. A lot of mods I want to do as well like the burger mount but do I need to buy the seperate piece for that as well

[loud belfry]

There are no lighter switches. Actually, there are no other compatible switches. If you want lighter, you need the lighter springs Wooting sells.

[regal plank]

You wouldn't happen to know what the backplate is made of metal or plastic?

[fresh jackal]

Backplate?

The case itself is ABS? plastic. The PCB is silicon, the foam layer is some kind of foam, and the switch plate that the switches sit in is steel.

[regal plank]

Ok thanks, yeah I was referring to the white part of the backplate which I would take apart and spraypaint.

[fresh jackal]

Switchplate 😄

[regal plank]

Appreciated did not know what to call it 😄 but its precoated in some way?

[fresh jackal]

I am actually not sure what exactly they do with the plate. If it's sanded and painted, or if it's some kind of chemical application.

But you should be able to grab some rough and fine sandpaper to get it down to the metal, wash and dry it and then re-primer it.

I would recommend using a meathook or something holding it suspended, so you can paint the whole board without touching or holding it.

[north ledge]

[north ledge]

And alright thank

[cerulean glacier]

so what does the "Tape Mod" do? Its Taping the backside of the PCB, right?

[fresh jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poF-Z0ajhE

[cerulean glacier]

Thank you! :3

[stiff forge]

how do i fit the foam that comes with the wooting 60 into tofu?

[next hatch]

Can I use the dampening foam that wooting already has incase on a Klippe T case. Or should I get another foam to put in the Klippe T case? Any recommendations on lube outside of wooting or just buy the springs and the lube from wooting?

Also are key caps pretty universal for 60wooting keyboard or any idea of specifics for key caps

[exotic haven]

@fresh jackal this one is listed as compatible by a comment of yours that points to:

Amazon US link : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HD14Q1M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

However, @regal plank said he had to buy a different usb-c cable or cut the original one to make it fit to that case ?

[fresh jackal]

I don't follow.

[exotic haven]

What i mean is, that it is not a compatible case without modifications (such as buying another thin usb-c or cutting down the original one)

[fresh jackal]

Oog is more than welcome to provide feedback and photos.

I suspect they may have screwed in the PCB a bit too far to a side.

[exotic haven]

By "they" you mean Oog?

[fresh jackal]

Well... yes?

[exotic haven]

allright

because i recently bought it

It will arrive soon i guess in the next 2 weeks

Gonna test it and give my feedback about it

[fresh jackal]

According to the photos Amazon has, the USB opening looks large enough and identical to any other case.

So... hard to say without more practical comparisons.

[exotic haven]

There is even a review of someone who used it and fit perfectly

The only downside were the feets

[fresh jackal]

I know I've had to plug the USB cable in while screwing in my B BOX case to make sure it all lines up. Because there is a bit of play with the standoff/PCB screw-in process.

[exotic haven]

How would I replace those with the ones the original case have? Or some others that looks similar.

[bleak tiger]

Is there anyone using Fjell case? I want to buy a metal case for my wooting and I found this 300USD case..

[regal plank]

Yeah original cable should fit fine. I had a amazon basic black cable I'm using for now. Wanted a plain cable.

The cable i was using was super bulky is why sorry for being unclear

[fresh jackal]

[regal plank]

In process of spraying switchplate 😄

[regal plank]

It does work perfect. You could use it without the wooting padding (I found it a little louder without). I pealed apart the top layer so just had the larger bottom layer of foam because it wouldn't fit both layers in nicely. I also had to make a hole in the padding because the case has an extra screw mounting hole in the middle but thats easy peesy. Otherwise its absolutely perfect.

[regal plank]

Blacked out switchplate

[fresh jackal]

[bleak tiger]

did u paint it yourself?

[regal plank]

Yeah.

[simple panther]

Whats the case?

[regal plank]

I think its improved the sound quite a bit actually. Because the switches are very tight. Could be rough getting them out.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XNPN32R?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1 this is US link but i linked UK somewhere above

[simple panther]

Clean case

[regal plank]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tutoy-Black-Keycaps-Mechanical-Keyboad/dp/B07C263NP5 getting these keycaps soon to go with it

But yeah I think its really clean. Coming from an absolutely massive 100% Razer Blackwidow I had from years back the keyboard creates so much space on my desk.

[bleak tiger]

any coil cables recommendation that looks clean and doesnt affect the transfer speed?

[fresh jackal]

Transfer speed?

[bleak tiger]

idk wouldnt cable have some affects on input lag or something.,.?

[fresh jackal]

It's a voltage issue. If it becomes unstable you get random inputs, missed inputs. That sort of thing.

It isn't going to inherently make the board "slower", just ... problematic.

This isn't something you can truly avoid - unless you reduce the LED brightness in Wootility. Down to around 70% usually solves it.

[bleak tiger]

then I can safely purchase my first coil cable on cablemod I guess..

[fresh jackal]

I have a 150cm (coiled part uncoiled not counted) from Cablemod, no aviator in the middle. It starts typing by itself at around 75% LED or above.

IF tachyon is enabled.

Tachyon off? Can run at 100%

[bleak tiger]

ahhhh IDK maybe I should just use the stock one to avoid problems XD

I'll just buy a coil cable for my work keyboard

cant wait for my wooting but I need to wait until mid May ;;

[regal hound]

Quite a few of us

[bleak tiger]

Worth the money with the wooting mod?

[eager pasture]

Check your DM

[regal hound]

It's probably the best case you can get for it but only you can answer if it's worth the money

[eager pasture]

We are all semi-crazy Keeb Enthusiasts!

[regal hound]

@bleak tiger if you're planning to order one and want to save a few bucks and time, shoot me a DM

[bleak tiger]

that would be great but i live in Japan tho, is it okay?

[regal hound]

Not OK 🙂

US only sorry

[gusty tiger]

Make a shipping trade 😂 Artisan Mousepads for Keyboard Case

[hazy sentinel]

Default cable no good?

[fresh jackal]

No good for what?

[hazy sentinel]

Just wondering why they are using a different cable if not for aesthetics

[fresh jackal]

They wanted to use a plain cable.

No yellow/black sleeve.

[hazy sentinel]

Makes sense

Yellow and black worked out with the wood and the cable was high quality so I just stuck with it

[regal hound]

https://tenor.com/view/black-and-yellow-cameron-jibril-thomaz-wiz-khalifa-concert-crowd-gif-21259437

[analog mantle]

yoo

any1 know

some good custom cable

for the wooting

[regal hound]

There are

[analog mantle]

that's white or black

[regal hound]

A lot

[hazy sentinel]

Coiled or standard?

[regal hound]

Of places

[analog mantle]

coiled have problem withj takyon mode right?

[hazy sentinel]

Sometimes

[analog mantle]

i would rather chjose a standard short cable jkust to be sure

[hazy sentinel]

If the cable is high quality think you can avoid that

[regal hound]

Sometimes but you can turn down RGB and fix it usually

[analog mantle]

the price dont matter

[fresh jackal]

More specifically keeping both tachyon and LEDs on bright. Might need to reduce the LED to around 70% or so.

[analog mantle]

tbh i can use a standard

np

so uh

you guys got any recommendations

[regal hound]

My man said price don't matter!

[analog mantle]

uhh

well

[hazy sentinel]

Ideal range?

[analog mantle]

idk tbh not into this stuff

i guess like

1.8m

is standard

[hazy sentinel]

I mean price range

[analog mantle]

oh

...

[hazy sentinel]

[analog mantle]

tbh just good quality nothjing overr 50$

[regal hound]

These guys make great stuff. I own 2 of their cables - https://wiredinstore.com/

Ohhh under $50? Nevermind

[analog mantle]

GAWD DAYUM

[hazy sentinel]

Probably going to head out for a bit battery getting low

[analog mantle]

i said

price dont matter

but

i didnt know

there even are

cables

that cost

100$

0_0

[regal hound]

That's not even expensive for custom cables

[fresh jackal]

Mass produced ones start at about half.

I think the one I got from Cablemod retails for 60?

[analog mantle]

well im not tryna buy a cable for the half of my keyboard hahah

[fresh jackal]

Can always invest down the road.

Same for keycaps.

[regal hound]

Yeah that's like buying keycaps that cost as much as the keyboard

Oh wait...

[analog mantle]

so uh

would

i need to

turn off rgb

or takyon

on like a 30$ cable?

[fresh jackal]

No. Turn DOWN the LEDs.

Not entirely.

[analog mantle]

oke oke

got any sugestions>

[regal hound]

I think your enter key is broken. Its clipping off all your sentences into 2-3 words at a time.

[analog mantle]

true

mb

[regal hound]

If you don't care about turning down the LED a bit, and your budget is under $50 check KBDfans

[analog mantle]

oh

ty

are keycaps from here good too ?

im not really looking for any cuz im fine with the standard ones but maybe if i would find some good lookin ones

[regal hound]

Sure KBDfans is a solid vendor for keyboard accessories

[analog mantle]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CVFBBZ8/ref=twister_B08CVGYFC4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

could u check this one?

https://www.amazon.com/Tez-Cables-Custom-Aviator-Keyboard/dp/B08RMQ8CJ1

or this one

also found this one

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F5T7LTQ/ref=twister_B09Z2LCBD9?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

with cables like that i would have to turn led to like 70%?

btw what makes these cables different from the original one

im gonna go to sleep

[fresh jackal]

They're longer.

[analog mantle]

if u could anwser me in direct message that would be very nice

gn :D

[fresh jackal]

Unwind that coil and you've got a long ass cable.

[analog mantle]

so if i find the same size cable that isnt 5$ it would work the same

basicaly any not coiled cable?

cuz i dont reallyy care abt the coiled cables

the only difference is that they look a little bit better imo, functionality is the same

cuz how often do u move ur keyboard more than 5 cm

or maybe i just dont know smth about coiled cables

[bleak cosmos]

i finally finished l;ubing

its a whole different experience

definetly worth it

[gusty tiger]

@regal hound @fresh jackal i admire you guys trying

[nocturne bluff]

I can’t believe you had to write that out. Lol it’s common sense

Wished the included cable was all black. The yellow accents on the cable isn’t my thing

[exotic haven]

Can you test if the wooting wrist rest fit that case ?

And what about the feets of the case are those bad ? Since i read a review that was talking bad about them

@regal plank

[bleak cosmos]

does anyone know of a nice blank set of thick yet slim profile pbt titanium colored keycaps? I tried looking but couldnt find any that tickled my fancy.

[spiral quiver]

Oof, that's an expensive cable

I've spent enough on keyboards in the past couple months, maybe sometime in the future

[regal hound]

Don't look at these guys then (I know them and their stuff is amazing) - https://www.voxelmods.com/

[wheat vault]

Would kinda want to buy this but don't need another case laying around 😅

[bleak tiger]

cables around 90USD should not be using heat shrink imo...

[fresh jackal]

What alternative do you propose?

[bleak tiger]

I'm planning on buying a coil cable soon but I assume heat shrink is a cheaper way to make cables instead of normal injection molded/ CNC machined ones?

[regal plank]

Yeah the original cable is way higher quality tbh. I need to get a similar one just all black, or might just ink it up and see what it looks like.

[fresh jackal]

You kind of self explained why that isn't happening. If you're ordering a custom cable, it's going to be hand made, unless you're ordering from a massive, mass fabricated company 😄

[regal plank]

I don't have a wrist rest sorry. I have a very weird keyboard posture that just doesn't need one (right hand on keyboard etc.) The feet looked kinda gross to me when assembling, but now they're on really not noticed. I was going for semi budget so does the job for now.

[bleak tiger]

I thought those are like keycaps where they just make it all in a single factory but brand them in different names, my bad

I guess cablemod and WIRED IN are the only options for me

[regal plank]

Attempting a black out of my wooting cable since I really like the original and it fits keyboard perfectly. Was thinking people could pretty easily custom colour their cable if they have specific custom colours, would be even nicer if the cable were black and white instead of black and yellow

[undone cedar]

What power delivery requirement does the Wooting have for tachyon mode?

for the cable *

[fresh jackal]

It's a USB cable. That's about it

Length and quality of the cable in terms of manufacturing matters.

6ft, no coils should work just fine with no? need to reduce LED Brightness

[lavish saffron]

Is it worth upgrading from tofu60 to klippe t?

[tawdry ivy]

I mean that depends, what is your goal and how much do you want to pay

[lavish saffron]

Is there any major difference between the two?

[tawdry ivy]

Klippe has better finish

But whether that’s worth $120+ is up to you

[lavish saffron]

thank you

I'll give it some positive consideration.
Do you know if mekanisk foam is better than wooting stock foam?

[tawdry ivy]

I doubt you’re going to see a real difference there

As far as foam goes

[lavish saffron]

thank you. I wouldn't buy it.
Is there a better case than klippe? Regardless of price.
Finish, sound, etc.

[tawdry ivy]

Fjell is endgame ish for overall case in that category

But it’s also way more expensive

[lavish saffron]

@tawdry ivy
I like the term endgame
I will buy fjell when I save up the money
Thank you for your help and advice

[analog mantle]

Yoo how did u do that

[gusty tiger]

Probably a sharpie lmao

[whole geyser]

is it possible to remove the stabilizers without taking the pcb of the plate?

[fresh jackal]

Yes.

Coooorrection. You can remove spacebar*

The smaller ones does require disassembly

[whole geyser]

thats the only one that really has enough rattle to annoy me so that works out

[boreal bear]

Do I recall hearing or reading that Durock stabilizers v2 screw in can be used as replacements?

[flat phoenix]

Wooting uses plate mount stabs

so no

[subtle furnace]

Could I use the stock 60he case for a different keyboard build?

[toxic raft]

It is compatible with GH60/ so yes

But it's just a plastic case so imo not worth it

[subtle furnace]

It would be a build for my brother, which wants a specific switch.

[toxic raft]

Oh okay cool

May I ask which switch

[bleak cosmos]

ridiculous

[toxic raft]

Why does it say for wooting 60he lol

[pure wren]

rather habe the klippe t

[flat phoenix]

might as well buy the klippe t at that point yeah

[flat phoenix]

if i had to guess maybe a good sounding switch like holy pandas or boba u4ts

[toxic raft]

Tactiles

[hazy sentinel]

Ok edit I can confirm tape mod causes ghosting

[pure wren]

how

[hazy sentinel]

Idk but uhhhh

[pure wren]

skill issue

what type of tape did you use

[hazy sentinel]

Kbdfans tape mod

[pure wren]

strange

[toxic raft]

Painters tape worked.out for me with no trouble

[hazy sentinel]

Ok really bad news

Its still persisting after I removed the tape

@fresh jackal Any ideas?

[flat phoenix]

try reconnecting your cable

and let it sit there for a moment

[toxic raft]

Ye I was gonna say that

[hazy sentinel]

That was something

[toxic raft]

Keyboard calibrates every time it's turned on afaik

[hazy sentinel]

That seems to have fixeed it?

Nvm

Its seems to be fine now?

I'm not 100%

And it having a seizure again

I have no idea what's up

Opening wootlity seems to have fixed somehow?

Ok its tachyon mode

I don't know why but tachyon mode having a seizure

Not the tape\

I'll test again with the tape and no tach

Or not

Wait is this a discord problem

I reloaded discord and its fine

WTF

I'm very confused but its working

So I'll just stop messing with it

[umbral vessel]

I got to ask but what wires are people using cause I might want to try a usb c to ps/2 cable but I’m not sure if they exist or I’m just stupid

[loud belfry]

I don't think they exist because there's not really a point.

You'd probably need a USB-C to USB-A cable with a USB-A to PS/2 adapter.

[tawdry adder]

Considering that silicon spray lube worked well as a quick an easy method, however could block the connection on regular switches, do you think it would be decent for Lekkers?

[tawdry adder]

i did some testing

on the spare switches, and its all good, and works really well!

[fleet halo]

any idea for improvements?

if somebody knows where to find iso german white pbt pudding keycaps, write something

[hazy sentinel]

What mods did you do?

[fleet halo]

lubed all switches, changed keycapse, case, added some foam thats it

[hazy sentinel]

I mean that's basically everything I would do

Maybe burger mount and take the bottom middle screw

[shrewd pebble]

Hi, I've reduced the up and down stroke noise of the lekker switch with cloth tape (I believed it called Gaffer Tape?)

here's the sound comparison

[fresh jackal]

Gaffer tape is duct tape as far as I know.

So ... Probably not

[bold skiff]

this can also occur from unstable voltage (using a usb hub//coiled cable//front-usb port of pc//monitor usb port//etc..)

reducing brightness or turning off tachyon mode is the easiest fix

[cerulean glacier]

Rate the thoc :3

Spent 6 hours lubing Housing, Stem and springs

[hazy sentinel]

I was using the default cable directly into my pc so I see no reason why that would be the case

Tape mod removable fixed it so I'm just not mess with it

[bold skiff]

any mod that messes with the full-range of the switch can also cause calibration issues
will keep note of this, since calibration should compensate for that (it does it properly for o-rings/similar)

[regal hound]

Goooooooooooood morning modders. What have I missed the last 24 hours?

Looks like not a lot. I should take days off more often!

[shrewd pebble]

what is the noticeable symptom that might cause from the calibration issues?
from what I testing so far is pretty normal except when fully bottoms out the analog value will not exactly go to 100% unless I squeezed the key (understandable since I put the tape at the bottom housing)

[bleak cosmos]

are trhere supposed to be 2 of those little white things missing on a couple of the tags (D34), theres a hole there in place of them im just wondering if i broke something, anyone have a picture of their pcb handy?

[fresh jackal]

Take a photo

[bleak cosmos]

i already screwed it and my phone was dead. n thats why i asked someone if they had a photo,

or if its in the design files, i would look but i dont have cad software

[fresh jackal]

No idea what you mean by missing.

[bold skiff]

use touch RGB fx and see if the 1 // f1 key is lighting up without touching the keyboard

if that happens, recalibrate the keyboard by reconnecting it while not touching the keys until RGB turns on

[bleak cosmos]

do you have a picture of the whole pcb

it mightve not been d34 i was just giving a random example

i know it was one on the farther left and onhe on the farther right

and what i mean by missing is that instead of a white thing being there, there is just a hole straight through the pcb.

i found a video of someone doing a teardown and it appearss there are 3 missing aswell

[fresh jackal]

ISO / ANSI differences.

If there's a hole, that's usually because of this.
Otherwise you would notice the complete lack of functionality on a button or LED

[bleak cosmos]

ok

thanks you for clarifying

[spiral quiver]

I've officially spent more on keycaps than I did for my Wooting and I'm not sure how I feel about that

[flat phoenix]

now me personally....

I would not spend that much on keycaps'

[spiral quiver]

To be fair I bought keycaps for both my incoming Wooting and my second keyboard

[hazy sentinel]

question

has someone tried this case for their board

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078MWMNRR?th=1

[quiet talon]

just swapped keycaps to a different one

quite like it but not so sure about the sound

[hazy sentinel]

I have a wood case that similar if you want sound impressions

[oak ginkgo]

Gaffer tape is a type of cloth tape, but it’s mixed in with some plastics found in duct tape

[oak ginkgo]

There’s another one you can try where you put silicone/gasket maker onto those landing areas on the housings and dampen the bottom out and return sounds. Albeit the bottom housing one is a bit unconventional and not ideal, at least to me.

[hazy sentinel]

Anybody have issues with gmk keycaps on the wooting?

[oak ginkgo]

What kind of issues?

[spring matrix]

gmk has north facing issues

idk what north facing means in terms of the hump

but wooter has the hump on the bottom

regardless, there are hella builds with gmk around, so im guessing its not an issue

[hazy sentinel]

Okay this is really weird I think this is mostly a discord problem?

I realized I was only having problems on discord for some reason

I refreshed my discord and the keyboard is fine now

[hazy sentinel]

I do. Plz share

[hazy sentinel]

Its a much deeper and full sound compared to the stock plastic case

Depending the thickness of your wood case it'll change how full/dense your keyboard sounds from experience

[hazy sentinel]

would you prefer it over trhe plastic?

[red elk]

Wife made an pikachu artisan key cap for my custom wooting ❤️

[hazy sentinel]

100%

it sticks out in a good way with the rest of the setup

Though I'd take anything over the plastic, no offense

oh no. I agree. I like the design of it, but prefer something other than plastic

imma buy that case and update you with the progress

Oh you might have to apply a varnish or stain on it then @hazy sentinel

I forgot about that

Its about 10 dollas more

i see

thank you for the help

do you have pictures of your board?

[hexed pond]

i just got my wooting but my plate is warped/bent. has anyone else had this issue? i dont think it will be a problem seeing itll bend back flat when you screw it down anyway

[fresh jackal]

Your...plate? You mean the switch plate?

Is this a 60HE or a 2HE?

Could you take some photos of this bend?

[hexed pond]

60he, the steel plate, picture incoming and video incoming

im going to dm

[spring matrix]

trying to find soluitions for wobbly switches (most noticible on space bar)
since the issue comes from the stem i doubt filming does much
(issue stems from the stem (lol))

best solution would probably be wait for lekker v2 with tightger tolerances ...
maybe i can try finding the most unwobbly switch on my board and replacing the space bar switch with it....

wait

can it be fixed with different stabs?

since its the space bar

[fresh jackal]

Different stabs won't help there - But you can put some material on the "south" side of the stabilizers to make them shift less.

[spring matrix]

Oh i think i know what you mean

[fresh jackal]

I took a small piece of folded paper and stuck it on with a bit of electrical tape.

It should be the house wobbling, not the stem itself on the stabilizer.

[spring matrix]

like this?

[fresh jackal]

[spring matrix]

since they are tilted in opposite directions

theres less room for play

they push against each other

[fresh jackal]

I meant putting a bit of paper and tape here and then pushing the housing back in.,

[spring matrix]

i think im going to try this

one on each side

so that they push against each other, in opposite directions

[fresh jackal]

Can't put anything there on the left one. There's a wire sticking out 😄

[spring matrix]

what if i put tape here

opposite of each other

now the tilt against each other

you know what i mean right

[fresh jackal]

That's the beauty of modding - You can find out real fast.

[spring matrix]

pretty sure im onto something/ its going to work

[round dove]

Switches need tighter tolerance for sure

Stem wobble is bad on mine too

Not just space bar, other keys as well

[finite meteor]

agreed

though when I'm not typing and just watching something or sitting in a meeting like right now, I tend to just wobble the keys

kinda like having a fidget spinner or whatever gadget available at all times

[spring matrix]

deciding between gummy or burger

could just try *either its not that expensive

is gummy/friction significantly more consistent than burger?

these are the ones im going to get

[spring matrix]

guys be VERY careful when removing lekker switchse

this part of the switch breaks very easily

it almost turns the switch into a perishable good

where every time you remove one theres a risk it breaks

[fresh jackal]

laughs in having removed every single switch without an issue on a 60HE

It helps a ton to disassemble the board and only pull switches using our puller with the switch plate in hand.

[spring matrix]

yeah you have to actively avoid it

because your switch puller goes right above it

definitely to it with plate in hand

what switch puller do you use

is it very thin?

[fresh jackal]

I use ours.

The ends are 90" angled instead of... 45" or so from what I see on generic cherry ones?

[spring matrix]

maybe mine are too thick

nvm its just a design flaw

Theres not any gap

So you are basically always going to hit it

[fresh jackal]

Well yeah - it holds the switch in place

[finite meteor]

Very well, Blade of the Darkmoon. Please remove the switches with extreme care

[spring matrix]

Other switches avoid this issue

See where im grabbing the other switch vs lekker?

[finite meteor]

imagine if you had switches in place of your teeth

[spring matrix]

Heres another demo

[fresh jackal]

You'd have to ask Gateron or @hybrid rapids about the switch design. 😄

I just work here.

[spring matrix]

yeah

i thought it was an issue with my switch puller

or my method

i should probably get a better switch puller but

idk what technique you are using to avoid this problem

[finite meteor]

you could bend and level the prongs if the angle is the issue like Mansen suggested

[fresh jackal]

Step one, only have switch plate in hand, no PCBA package. Lessens tension.
Step two, grap each switch on north/south and wiggle/pull

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?t=114
As calder shows here.
(Except I don't pull them out of the case)

[spring matrix]

those defniitely help aleviate the issue

yeah he dose it vertiaclly

in the video

you cant avoid the design by doing that

@hybrid rapids

Cherry style usually have this slot

Kailh style (rightmost switch) does not

The issue with lekker

im doing it in the same way as the video

[finite meteor]

just a second further in the vid he says "though I do not recommend to do it this way, just put it on the table and remove the switches as you'd usually do"

[spring matrix]

in hand or on the table

im doing it vertically

when i say "same way" i mean vertically

switch pullers go horizontal on cherry style switches

Hopefully im not making this too confusing

[regal plank]

Tbh I did my whole keyboard this weekend, and legit used 2 screwdrivers one in each hand to take each switch off. ALMOST broke 1, but I wasn't nearly careful enough and was not using the right tools. With some amount of care and correct tools seems unbreakable.

And i've put pcs together before, but never touched a keyboard internally. From just watching that video someone linked above managed it perfectly. seem super use freindly even without correct tools.

[spring matrix]

you guys have stable hands damn

anyways regardless of if you can prevent it with technique

the design can be improved to extend the lifetime of the switch

[frail valley]

hey, has anybody tried these qmx clips yet? https://uniqey.net/zubehoer/18/qmx-clips-plate-mount-110-st.

i'm kinda inclined to try these

i'll order these either way simply because i'm curious about it

[feral siren]

The Ultimate 60HE Dust and Re-Lube Makeover… (breaking it and ordering a new one xD)

[clear pollen]

Has there ever been any discussion on if there will ever be heavier springs for the Lekker switches? I know wooting sells lighter springs but I've always preferred heavier than 60g. And I usually like my space bar heavier then my other switches. But all compatible springs I've found are magnetic and don't work well lol

[spring matrix]

any guide to buying aftermarket cables that will be compatible with tachyon mode?
im assuming any usb c to c cable will work,
and is usb c to usb 3 (blue) guaranteed to work?
usb c to usb 2 cables that support 1k hz should be hard to find right

[fresh jackal]

You misunderstand the problem slightly - Tachyon works with any cable (provided it isn't downright shoddily made), it's the issue with having it on AND retaining full LED brightness that's the issue. Especially with cables longer than 6ft (coiled cables easily adding over 3 ft by themselves)

[loud belfry]

Do you know what the power requirement is in amps? It seems like it'd be easy to calculate and verify if a cable would work based on that.

[fresh jackal]

Any cable.

It's ultimately more a question of voltage drop over length and gauge of wire if we're getting really technical. Amps will be identical across all cables, because of how USB handshakes.

[fringe horizon]

Where can I get custom keycaps for my wooting?

🤔

[fresh jackal]

About a million different websites.

It's a bit like asking where you can buy a car 😄

[loud belfry]

It has nothing to do with how USB hand shakes. The voltage drop is a result of how much current is being passed over the resistance of the cable. So if we know how much current a 60HE draws, we can calculate the required maximum cable resistance to hit a target voltage drop.

[fresh jackal]

Yes - That is exactly how it works 😄

[loud belfry]

That's not a USB hand shake thing. That's an every wire thing.

[fresh jackal]

USB adjusts the electrical current based on the handshake.

[loud belfry]

That's only for certain port types, though, right? So if you're plugging into a USB 2.0 port for example, that's not a thing right?

[fresh jackal]

Yes it is. Always has been.

But to answer your question directly. USB 2.0 which is what we use for backwards compatibility, 5v 50mA.

No matter what cable you plug in, that's what the USB handshake will agree to send.

[loud belfry]

So then do we know what voltage is required at the keyboard to support tachyon + full brightness?

[fresh jackal]

So to return to the original question - Having a cable that uses thicker gauge wires can help extend the sweet spot between fully working and "you're going to have to reduce the LED a bit"

But if you go longer than 6ft or so, expect problems.

[feral siren]

I have a 1.6 Meter Straight-way cable with a quick release attachment from Cable Mod, they seem to have upgraded the quality of their wires. I had mine RMA'd and they replaced it with their current model of wires which seems to work perfectly fine.

I give the length because it is unusually short (it was how I ordered it even before I received my first Wooting 60HE), and something to take note of, you could go longer maybe? I couldn't say for sure.

[fresh jackal]

Speaking of Cablemod. I have a 1.5m (they don't count the coiled part in uncoiled length) with no aviator, and it needs me to reduce brightness below 70% with Tachyon on. Otherwise it starts typing on its own.

[feral siren]

When did you buy it?

My RMA was this year, they DEFINITELY changed the thickness of their custom cables since I ordered it last year.

[fresh jackal]

Like... within the past month or so 😄

[feral siren]

Try RMA'ing it.

[fresh jackal]

But again - This could be a "worse" cable from a product that on paper is fine.

[feral siren]

Maybe they're using thicker cables for RMA *?

I figured CableMod cables weren't specced high enough, but thought might as well, especially when the cable started having issues with my GMMK PRO as well. They sent somet thiccbois over

[fresh jackal]

shrug

I only use the cable for testing. Also my LEDs are at like 20% normally anyway.

[feral siren]

Hmmm

Yeah my LEDs are even completely off for my FPS/Tachyon mode. LEDs full brightness aren't all that important imo unless you're using backlit keycaps or an acrylic case. I wonder if there's a cable vendor that has consistently done well with Wooting though.

[blazing cargo]

I just put my 60he into a monsgeek case. looks really pretty but the included foam doesnt and it frankly sounds dreadful. Pingy, clacky, clicky

DO I just find some thinner foam and hope?

Just had a very productive conversation with the included case foam and we came to an agreement that it does in fact fit.

Far better sound

[fresh jackal]

[weak marlin]

Hey guys, longshot but does anybody have a set of the Wooting white PBT caps for UK ISO that they would like to sell or trade for a black set (mine are still sealed).

I didn't realise they did White until it was too late to change my order, and now they are backordered till May 🫤

[upper mist]

They're not on backorder though?

https://next.wooting.io/product-status

Does somewhere say otherwise?

[fringe horizon]

I don‘t have any experience with that. There was a site saying that the keycaps only fit a certain switch now I’m confused 😵‍💫

[fresh jackal]

Making dinner right now, so I can't give you a long explanation. But I'll swing by later if no one else have given you a quick intro,

[fringe horizon]

No worries

Thanks G 🥹

[weak marlin]

That's a weird one, if I can get them quick I'll just put an order in now, but website making me believe late May 🤔

[regal hound]

@fringe horizon Pretty much any keycap will work. There used to be an issue with some cherry profile keycaps that would occasionally have an issue with switches with north facing LED's, but seems to have been resolved by almost every keycap manufacturer and is relatively a non-issue. If you get extremely unlucky and have a clearance issue with your keycaps, you can simpley pull the switch out and turn it around so that the LED faces south. Stick to Cherry, OEM, SA or almost anything except low-profile and you'll most likely be just fine

[fringe horizon]

Thanks G

[fringe horizon]

Looking forward to buy blank pudding keycaps and a klippe T

[regal hound]

Mark I see you typing! I'm starting to think you are holding on to my switch order until I fly to the Netherlands and pick them up

[weak marlin]

This is mine with puddings on John. The Wootings RGB brightness is next level too. 😁

[upper mist]

Indeed they are out of stock. Not sure why the product status page doesn't reflect that. The ready date for the next batch at the manufacturer is on the 14th of this month, with the delivery date to our warehouse 6 weeks after that, via sea freight. Might be an opportunity to send a master carton or two via airfreight to get them a few weeks earlier but will need to take a look

[fringe horizon]

Sheeesh

[upper mist]

What's your order number?

[regal hound]

Just sent you a DM

[feral siren]

If you have any pure cotton shirts, you could try slipping one in there.

As long as you're careful about static (100% pure cotton usually won't have static electricity issues), they add a fairly tasteful layer of sound.