60he community modding

[gusty tiger]

Probably the Asperger’s or austism in me, whatever they call it these days💀😂

[vagrant kernel]

part of me wanted you to say you actually did attach it to the deskmat lmao

[gusty tiger]

lmao ima leave it like that then if it doesnt look bad

[eager pasture]

Looking good!

[rustic anchor]

what caps are those? 😮 beautiful setup

[gusty tiger]

It's two sets mixed, I can link them in a bit.

https://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Keycaps-Minimalist-Compatible-Keyboard/dp/B096RWG28F/ref=sr_1_3?crid=25MQIE3NC7BXJ&keywords=black+and+white+keycaps+japanese+cherry+pro&qid=1677290386&s=electronics&sprefix=black+and+white+keycap+japanese+cherry+pro%2Celectronics%2C276&sr=1-3
https://deskr.co/collections/keycaps/products/canyoncaps
@rustic anchor

[surreal swan]

@regal hound what do you think about the tofu 2.0 so far ( not related to wooting ). Deciding if I want to grab one.

[rustic anchor]

ty ❤️

[gusty tiger]

thank you for the compliment, glad you liked them

[patent breach]

The stock dxf file has a couple inaccuracies that make me go mental

The left and right tab for tray mount are not the same width.. left is 1.9mm from the border, right is 2.7mm

I wonder if the stock steel plate has the same differences, or maybe gh60 tray mount is offset like that?

Okay I think it's probably just the iso plate because of clearance from the left shift key🫡

[oak ginkgo]

I think it’s offset like that so you can align the usb port with the cutout of your case.

Because manufacturers tolerances will vary.

And it looks like it was accounted for with that offset.

[patent breach]

Might be true yeah, but I guess it's most likely to keep the left shift switch hole 1mm away from the cutout

[brave pewter]

Yo anyone have ever tried modding wooting60 he with melgeek brass 60% case?

[eager pasture]

That case is simply the Mojo60 case but in brass. Yes, everything works with that case.

[subtle furnace]

Where would you all reccomend to buy keycaps from?

[fresh jackal]

Impossible to answer. It all depends on what you're looking for and from where in the world. And your budget and how long you want to wait etc...

[night hamlet]

does this pcb support different layouts? for example if i wanted to switch alt/menu/ctrl/fn all to 1u and add another 1u key? or change r-shift into a split? was looking to change the case and figured i might as well change more than that

example ^

[bold skiff]

You can checkout Wootility even without a keyboard!
https://wootility.io/

https://youtu.be/1JOddIUhUv8

See the 'Remapping' tab, and the 'Advanced keys' tab to explore the possibilities

[night hamlet]

i actually have a wooting already and have used wootility but i meant in terms of adding extra buttons not just remapping through software

[bold skiff]

Then no. cannot modify the PCB as Wootility only recognizes the current keyboards and their layouts

[night hamlet]

okay thanks

maybe one day

[bold skiff]

one day indeed

[subtle furnace]

In the US, looking for keycaps that would match a dark green case that are preferably under or around 100 usd, and willing to wait about two months. Any reccomendations based on that?

[regal hound]

https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-vanir-keycaps?variant=32355762241625

[opaque quail]

What’s the difference between ANSI-US English, ISO-UK English, and ISO-US English?

[fresh jackal]

In what context?

[opaque quail]

In regards to the key caps, I’m just wondering if there are any differences and if there are, what might they be?

[fresh jackal]

Yes of course in the context of keycaps - But which specifically? Ours? A set you found somewhere?

ANSI vs ISO is easy enough.

US vs UK is a question of where which symbols go, because the two put them differently (and use different ones)

[opaque quail]

Thank you and yes, I was referring to the ones in the wooting store

[hexed pond]

what thickness pe foam do u guys use?

[junior locust]

has anybody here tried using aluminum caps with a wooting keyboard? I'm just wanting to make sure they wouldn't cause interference with the operation of the switches

[patent breach]

Aluminium is non magnetic so it wouldn’t interfere with Hall effect

However you’ll have to get creative for bigger than 1u keys because of spring weight

Aluminium spacebar is probably kinda heavy

[junior locust]

aluminum does slightly affect electromagnetic fields, which in theory could throw off the switches

[patent breach]

Oh damn i didn’t know that

[junior locust]

yeah kind of random haha

[patent breach]

I guess you’ll have to test how noticeable the effect is then

I suppose the switches should still work , but maybe feel a little weird with inputs or something

[junior locust]

it looks like it, I was hoping someone had already tried it before getting the caps since they can be pretty expensive

[oak ginkgo]

Well it’s not the aluminum per se, it’s the other things that they put in the 6061 alloy, since aluminum isn’t ferrous.

[regal hound]

People have used aluminum caps without an issue (or none Ive seen reported). However someone did swap non wooting springs and had problems because of the magnets

[oak ginkgo]

yeah, magnetic steel springs.

also the fact that normal switch springs will not work with the lekker switch

[junior locust]

interesting, thank yall for helping

[wanton forum]

Where did you get the topo keycaps!??! sick

[gusty tiger]

@wanton forum

[wanton forum]

Epic, thanks!!!

[brave pewter]

Thanks

[round dove]

If anyone wants a no logo psd60re

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLZfJZs

This is the one

Asked for extra care on packaging

Seller literally used all that

10/10 would recommend

Psd60re in comparison

[hardy wren]

Where the keycaps from

I was looking for those lined ones

[round dove]

Only works cos its wooting but here the apple magic keyboard experience

[gusty tiger]

fucck the avocado color is 🥵🥵🥵

[subtle furnace]

I am trying to find where I can get some GPL 105 for bag lubing springs. Does the krytox branding matter or is it just branding that increases the price?

[round dove]

Just get it from aliexpress lol

[tawdry ivy]

Krytox is going to be more expensive but it won’t be replacement mats used to simulate same thing - usually the replacement mats aren’t that bad though

Honestly a small bottle of genuine krytox is dirt cheap from some keyboard sites so I don’t really see a reason to try save $1-2 there

Just go to one of the local keyboard sites that bulk orders it and sells mini bottles they packaged themselves

[sand yew]

Just finished modding my 60he Mekanisk Klippe T & GMK Modern Dolch 2.
looking clean I say, thoughts?

[finite meteor]

looks clean indeed

[sinful cliff]

Months of waiting are finally over!

[finite meteor]

looks clean indeed

[eager pasture]

Nice work on your builds @sinful cliff and @sand yew !

[vagrant kernel]

nice caps

what manu?

[sinful cliff]

epbt caps and a painted tofu 60% walnut case

[wide smelt]

Question for the group!

I just ordered my 60HE and I have been watching some videos on modding the case and switches. I know this channel has a lot of feedback about different brands but I’m really loving the KBDFANS TOFU60 in lavender. Does that case work with the Wooting or is there a case out there with a similar color pallet? I appreciate any info or tips from you all 🤘!

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

As long as it's not the new 2.0 Tofu, yes. It fits.

[regal hound]

@wide smelt congrats on the addiction (I meany buy). Any of the original Tofu60's will work as he just stated. The issue is that the case was discontinued so if your heart is set on lavender, you will need to look at other options. There are a few on AliExpress that would work and if you need help just let me know.

[wide smelt]

I was really set on the lavender case (it’s my favorite color). I’ve been looking around but any help on finding something in that color? If not I totally understand and I truly appreciate the help!! This is my first time diving into this realm. I’ve always used a BlackWidow Keyboard all of my life 😂.

[regal hound]

Couple of choices for you that should work https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804675045266.html and https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804994547526.html

I dont vouch for or know these companies but they have great reviews

[wide smelt]

None the less I appreciate the help!

[flat phoenix]

any tips on making the stabilizers sound more thocky

[burnt stag]

Finally got to finish modding my kb

[flat phoenix]

you got the doraemon drip on your keyboard

[eager pasture]

Spacebar makes your build!

[inland hornet]

anyone get a cablemod custom straight cable and can share the length they got. thinking about getting one and can't decide between 1.5m or 2m cable length to stay compatible with tachyon mode

[mint pivot]

I'm using coiled one which is 1.8m long, works fine

[rustic anchor]

hows the psd60 compared to a tofu?

[round dove]

Basically the same except usb port lines up properly instead of shifting to the left like tofu

[exotic haven]

Any ideas which black aluminium case will support the wooting wrist rest? Apart from the Mojo60 since i couldn't find it in black case.

[round dove]

Any case that has flat front will work, tofu, psd60, baldr60 and ducky mecha mini case are ones I tried.

[dusty turret]

Just got my 60he and put it in my salvation case with kat cyberspace keycaps

[willow saffron]

Does anyone have good keycaps recommendations with good quality for my 60he

some clean keycaps

[granite spruce]

Took me a lifetime to actually start and then finish - but I finally got there!

Now the problem I have now is after spending close 4 hours lubing switches - first time lubing and did it the long way following wooting's youtube video, but even after being super careful (trying too at least) 'm 95% sure I overlubed them.

Any advice on how to help remove some but not all of it? I think I over did the springs

[regal hound]

Just use them for a few weeks and let the lube settle down. If they still feel overlubed then your only choice is to start over and clean them first

[granite spruce]

So in your opinion you would advise against taking some alcohol to the springs?

How much use do you think I would have to have in those 2 weeks? I normally don't use it for more than a couple hours a night - would that be enough do you think?

I don't want to be that annoying guy who asks for advice and then argues against it - haha I'm just curious

[gusty tiger]

The lube won't "go away" persay I don't think, but more just spread out more evenly I would guess

What makes you think you over did it? Just curious

[regal hound]

Yeah, you're just letting the lube settle in and distribute a bit when you're using it which might change the feel a bit over time.

[gusty tiger]

Couple White Tofu Cases in Stock on KBD Fans as of 3/20 (8PM MST) if anyone is interested

[tawdry ivy]

i wonder where they keep finding these white leftovers from

[carmine timber]

if it helps anything, I have the mojo60 and it's a great case

very heavy, good quality. if you don't mind the rounded aesthetic, it's very nice

[simple panther]

best white keycaps for the 60he?

[fresh jackal]

Ours?

[simple panther]

wait y'all got white keycaps

clean

[slim pond]

Lol yes they do, $40, separate

I have em, can send a pic later if you want, just gotta remind me

[fresh jackal]

https://next.wooting.io/product/wooting-double-shot-backlit-pbt-keycap-set-just-white
Sure do.

Can be added during checkout or after the fact.

[simple panther]

Lemme see em when you can

[slim pond]

Alr sounds good

[simple panther]

I might cop em if theyre clean

[slim pond]

Theyre pretty nice, i have those and PBTfans BoW keycap set. Do pics with both

[simple panther]

yea pls

[slim pond]

Anyone here use the Kbdfans coiled cables? They look decent enough

[still laurel]

https://imgur.com/a/ctL9d
Has anyone here latex modded their Lekker switches like this?

[hazy sentinel]

Ayyyyy kat fan too

[dusty turret]

yess theyre my first set and even tho the peoples who made this specific set wasnt the best i really like the profile and ill look for more in the future

[hazy sentinel]

Kbdfans has a set of BoW for 40

[slim pond]

Thats the base set i believe

Or simple, one of those

[loud belfry]

What is the point? To make a soft landing pad to quiet key releases?

[still laurel]

Yeah it would deaden the clack on the way up. I’m also considering doing it in the bottom housing to deaden both ends (can’t put felt or anything in the bottom housing stem hole cuz there’s no bottom to it)

[loud belfry]

Interesting idea. How well does it (the latex) stick to plastic?

[still laurel]

Apparently fine? It has to really dry otherwise it will come off but apparently it sticks well

The original version used tiny tiny pieces of electrical tape but it’s easier to just put a small dab of latex on to achieve the same result

[loud belfry]

Well if it sticks well I could see that being pretty cool. I haven't seen that mod before.

[still laurel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5qmywo/a_relatively_simple_method_of_silencing_any/
This is the original from 2017. Latex sounds much easier than doing this
https://imgur.com/3WnlB2f
They ended up redoing their board with the latex though so I would definitely just go that route at least for the top housing

[still laurel]

I guess RTV gasket maker is preferred to latex because latex is susceptible to breakdown from oils which might not play well with lubricant
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/cm1mll/new_silence_and_trampoline_mod/
https://scarff.id.au/blog/2020/silenced-kailh-speed-copper-switches/

[wary mango]

I had cerakeys originally which looked a lot nicer with the white case but those keycaps are so bad they actually wear down the switches...

let me see if I can find a pic tho

here u go

highly recommend that case if you use the keyboard for typing a lot, can't comment on gaming performance as I am not a pr0 g4m3r

[sonic walrus]

lol just a tad late, got the case yesterday

looks nice, sounds nice - cant complain bout it

[surreal swan]

yea... I refunded them. It would be sweet if they worked without issue. I was too scared about the switch damage. The solid color cerakeys look pretty slick.

[wary mango]

they legit messed up my E key

the keycaps slip on pretty easily

[surreal swan]

I looked at a bunch of pre release reviews and people were saying that type of thing ;/

There are mods to make it work but I don't want to mess around

[wary mango]

it's one thing to have keycaps that don't fit, but the rough insides deadass wore down my switches man

[surreal swan]

I forget, you can apply something between the switch and the cap to make it less damaging.

[wary mango]

so regretful :(

[slim pond]

What determines how you place the switches back? Like the led part north or south

[fresh jackal]

Always north.

Unless your keycaps are grinding against each other.

[slim pond]

Alright

😅

Working on her now lmao

[wary mango]

yeah, they recommend putting tape on so their dogs**t keycaps don't mess up your switches LOL

literal bandaid solution

for anyone here with a custom plate for their 60HE, can you tell me the differences compared to a generic GH60 plate? I'm really interested in getting this case but obv it's for a HHKB layout, however I want to get a plate machined that would fit GH60/Wooting 60HE. I'm just not sure if there's any major differences I should be wary of before commissioning a plate like that.

[surreal swan]

yea tbh if you can't actually use the caps without damage and need a 'mod' the product is shit

[wary mango]

yeah, they've completely messed up my switches and are asking me to ship back the keycaps for a refund which is fair enough, but it doesn't really change the fact that they've permanently affected my Lekker switches. There's only one that's noticeably bad but the rest are definitely affected too.

the worst part is they're deadass the nicest feeling caps ever, the material is genuinely awesome but no keycaps are worth wrecking your switches :/

[hollow elk]

Any pro tips before I get started? Tofu acrylic case.

[idle ledge]

Make sure you tape over the USB port from the inside. I used painters tape. Leave a little tab that wraps around the side of the case so you can easily lift the silicone up once it sets

[wary mango]

don't leave any gaps and ur good tbh

keep it level too

[idle ledge]

That's terrible. I ordered the pink set and I've been waiting for them. All the initial reviews were really good, I didn't think they were actually destroying switches

[wary mango]

XD

the enter, caps lock and spacebar are original Wooting because they were literally unusable for me

you can see the E key falls off there, that switch now has much looser tolerances for switches. An example is if I'm using my air blower to blow out dust from the keyboard the E keycap will legit pop off while other keys won't have that issue. Similarly I can actually grab and raise the keyboard from most of the keycaps but not the E key, which will come off.

I'm really glad I took them off before there was more damage but I'd strongly, strongly recommend staying away from Cerakey mainly because they're still shipping out sets and not really looking into a solution for their problem. If you mention this problem in their Discord you just get met with "put some tape on" :/

I ordered some keycaps from https://metalkeyboards.no/index.html early Feb, will share when I receive them :)

[idle ledge]

Damn, you've got good taste with the gh60 case and the hsk pro.

I'm gonna have to look into that. I've wanted metal caps but Aluvia and Alumizu didn't fit the color schemes I like.

Just sucks I joined on the original kickstarter and all the review samples seem pretty flawless, but then all the poor fitment and bad legends

[wary mango]

so those metal keycaps are seemingly nuts

[median helm]

has anyone done a wooting build with sa profile keycaps?

[wary mango]

I haven't heard a single negative thing about them in vids or otherwise

[wary mango]

tbh u could still receive the caps and try them out if you'd like, they are still the best feeling keycaps I've ever used and I broke my typing record specifically with those caps. When it comes to the durability they're definitely good too but I could never recommend them if they aren't working to fix the problems tbh.
On the bright side, I think they do ship with tape now so you can put them on your switches to fix tolerances 🥴

[idle ledge]

Hopefully they get it sorted out whenever the pink batches roll around. Fingers crossed

[ionic quartz]

Best coiled cable?

[round dove]

Mix properly, also some painters tape the glue will cause the silicone to stay sticky, that happened to my 3M ones, and silicone rubber will also cause it to not solidify, learn it the hard way.

If the instruction say mix for 5 min

Mix it properly for 5min

Or its gonna make a sticky mess and very hard to clean

[round dove]

Also dont overfill, put the screw into the standoffs so silicone doesnt get inside

My first pour on baldr60 was too high so i had to make cuts at where smt components touches the silicone, the second pour on psd60re was perfect

[round dove]

@regal hound not sure if these will work for gummy mount

[regal hound]

They dont even look close to the correct size

[wary mango]

I have a gasket mount and it works amazingly b/c the foam between the PCB/plate is really well fitted

let me find the O ring specs

[regal hound]

https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-m-o-rings

[regal hound]

Get the medium size from here

[wary mango]

170x3.5mm and 170x4mm

[round dove]

I think they are the size?

Just theres a few in the bag

[wary mango]

200x190 miiiight be loose

but 170 is good

[round dove]

Yea

I wasnt sure so i got them all

Cheap enough anyway

[wary mango]

for sure

3-4mm thickness is good too

[round dove]

Getting from keyboard shopify the shipping cost 3x the price of the o ring to nz

But yea black ones are 60A silicone white ones are 55A

[wary mango]

I think that they should fit alright

[round dove]

Ok eh

So the pressure is a lot higher than I thought

How will i get it out in the fututre

Surprisingly 200mm is nice and tight too

Nvm i got it out

[simple panther]

you got a pic?

[round dove]

All 3 size is fine btw if anyone wanna get cheap gasket o ring

I think @regal hound didnt see the specs on bag

Would recommend use 170 for easiest fitting

200mm need to push quite a bit

[slim pond]

Im sorry man, got really late since it was my first time lubing switches and stuff then had spacebar problems lol but i have it half together, gonna put the wooting keycaps on tomorrow so side by side comparison, also even sound test if you want/i can(if its noticeably different)

[regal hound]

I didnt even look at the bags, just the size of the o-ring in the photo. I'm not sure what the durometer of those are but I do know that the graveshift medium ones work well

[round dove]

Yea theres 6 in two of the bags 3 in the smallest

[simple panther]

yea fs

no hurry

[round dove]

60A and 55A, so close to medium i think?

[regal hound]

Closer to med-hard

[round dove]

Thats what the seller told me

[regal hound]

Which I prefer 50-65

[round dove]

Yea i like it

[gusty tiger]

whatever size I used @regal hound , that shit was TIGHT lmao

I also think i was expecting a "pop" but that doesn't really happen

[regal hound]

You can check on the graveshift site and see. Was probably a 65, so one of the harder ones.

[stable bluff]

Might be in the minority here, but is there any case without any edges at all? Like the pcb is level with the case and the only thing «out» is the switches and keycaps. I couldnt really find one on the compatibility list

I’ve had the tofu for a while but getting tired of slicing fingers everytime i flick left

[loud belfry]

The flat case is like that.

[round dove]

What do you mean by pcb out?

Low profile has top plate leveled with the case

Not pcb

[stable bluff]

My bad, bad explanation

[round dove]

There is rounded edge case like psd60re

But thats higher profile

[stable bluff]

Like for example the razer huntsman mini

[round dove]

I used ducky mecha mini's case and it works well

Psd60re looks like this

But it is rounded

Mecha mini

[stable bluff]

Mecha is exactly what im looking for

No way to get the case separately?

[regal hound]

There are low profile cases on AliExpress you can use.

[round dove]

NZ$ 52.80 14%OFF | Anodized Aluminium flat case with metal feet for custom mechanical keyboard black siver grey colorway for gh60 xd60 xd64 satan
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mMCdyqm

These should be perfect for what you need

Yea i got the mecha mini off second hand market lol

[stable bluff]

Aight, thanks man you’re a beautiful individual

[round dove]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_ms8Y9kA

More color option on this

[stable bluff]

Thank you!

[round dove]

Np

[rotund surge]

Please please please make a 60% universal pcb for the 60 he

With a port for a daughterboard and everything

I really wanna put that shit in my kei

[fresh jackal]

Not likely - We already committed to the DZ60 standard.

[slim pond]

@simple panther got em for ya

Right half is wooting, left half is PBTFans BoW set

No sound difference between them, both are doubleshot PBT

Oh and the PBTfans set is like thinner per say

[tawdry ivy]

Pbtfans bow is so clean for the price

I think non shine through is actually nicer look on wooting with the backlight

[hollow elk]

Silicone pour went really well. Let it set over night. It did get a little thin around the usb because some of the fill seeped in the usb cavity.

[tepid cove]

Which keycaps are this? Looks clean.

[tepid cove]

Why always north? I have non shine through keycaps atm and mounted the switches south facing. Idk why, i just saw it in a Video. 😅

[fresh jackal]

I mean you're welcome to south face them. Just a LOT of work to pull every switch out and put them back in.

[tepid cove]

I pulled them out anyway, because I painted the white thing black and lubed the switches. So I basically had the choice 😅

[fresh jackal]

Until you change your mind later 😄

[hollow elk]

Silicone mod also added some much needed weight to the acrylic case. I actually found that more beneficial than the sound change. However, keyboard sound is so individual. 9 out of 10 would recommend. Thanks for all the tips folks!

[near quail]

Having a hard time deciding between cases. Aluminum feels high quality and has that heavy feeling, pc has that thock i think I want and would look nice with rgb, and i’ve been looking at resin cases cause they look pretty cool

[nocturne bluff]

There is no underglow on the wooting PCB I don't believe, PC cases wont' look as nice. Why not just buy both then?

[near quail]

In theory I could buy them all and try it out but I shouldnt, I think I will just go aluminum in the end. I like the heftiness to it.

[regal hound]

The trick is to get PC with a brass plate!

[simple panther]

What case do you have?

[slim pond]

White Tofu60

[simple panther]

Okk

Is it very hard to change cases?

From the original one to another like yours?

@slim pond

[slim pond]

Not at all, screws are just a bit finicky putting it back together cause the foam but fits great

[simple panther]

Okk

[slim pond]

Sounds amazing too after that and lube awitches

[simple panther]

Im new to modding lol

How much is the tofu?

[slim pond]

I bought it from @regal hound since its been discontinued. I dont believe he has anymore but got it for $120 from him

[regal hound]

If you're in the US and need a case just DM me. Ive got very few left

[simple panther]

Is it worth changing cases or the original one is fine?

[wheat vault]

Original is more than fine imo. but it's really down to personal preference, i've got a Tofu Walnut case which i could switch to but don't really want to because i like the OG case. Would be nice if there was a Alu case of the original because it's unique in it's own way (Did not have to modify the Walnut case to fit the PCB) 🙂

''Unlubed'' switches/stabs testing the case quite a while back

[hazy sentinel]

@wheat vault ayyy did you get the wood case off etsy too?

[slim pond]

My 60He build!!! Loveee the color and sound haha

[digital cloud]

https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-blue-samurai-custom-keycap-set/reviews#reviews

Will these look good in a white case?

[native pawn]

sweet

[slim pond]

Thanks man 💪

[native pawn]

I went with PBTfans caps too

my build above

[slim pond]

I love em lol just gotta get used to them not being see through as ive always used see through

This is my first custom haha

[native pawn]

yeah the quality is great I must say

yeah haha

[slim pond]

And i like the purple

Def good quality, have to see how they last

[simple panther]

Any good keycaps that match with a black and red setup

[flat phoenix]

gmk red samurai

[simple panther]

That wont cost me 300$

Lmao

[rustic anchor]

i think pbtfans crosshair add-on looks nice. you can prob find a dupe pretty easily on amazon

@simple panther

[simple panther]

Bet

[frail valley]

i never saw this but now i'm very interested in giving this a try. upstroke noise has bothered me for the longest time and while it's possible to just put tape on the top housing, that also ruins the feel a bit

[simple panther]

I got replicas gmk red samourais lol

[frail valley]

matter of fact, i'm actually going to order some latex so i can give this a go

i'll do this stuff over the weekend and i'll see what comes of it

[still laurel]

What part of the housing did you put tape on that ruins the sound? Like how op did it inside the switch? Or elsewhere?

[frail valley]

top housing

i should have a picture somewhere, hang on

kinda wrapped it around, like you'd tape mod choc switches if you know what that's like

[still laurel]

Oh interesting

[still laurel]

Also apparently latex and oil don’t play nicely so check out the gasket maker as well

[frail valley]

#archived_the_lekker_switch message i also uploaded a sound test thing here

it should illustrate the effect to some degree, but yeah, it impacts smoothness and, in some cases with sloppy application, can cause the stem to get stuck

so not very great of an idea

[still laurel]

Ah. Did you end up trying PTFE tape as well?

[frail valley]

yeah but it's too fiddly and i ragequit LMAO

[still laurel]

Ah lol

Oh wait it’s that stuff. I cannot imagine trying to mod switches with that lol. It’s hard enough using it on pipe threads lol

[frail valley]

yeahhh

i did attempt it but it did not cooperate at all and after about 15 minutes i gave up

[slim pond]

What are the specifications a coiled cable needs to be so everything runs the same as with the stock one?

[simple panther]

I think cable mod’s ones are fine

From what I know they work on everything

[regal hound]

There is no spec that works or doesnt work its really based on whether its well made or just shit. A coiled cable thats made with high quality components, heavier gauge wire and not overly long (under 6ft is best) should be fine. Try to avoid cheaper machine made cables. If youre leaning towards cablemod coiled cables I have one I'll try for you.

@slim pond If this is what you were looking at lmk and I can try it out for you tomorrow

[simple panther]

Thoughts on the ducky premicord? @regal hound

[pseudo sun]

Is there any good guide to make this keyboard more silent?
Especially for the space bar, it's loud af for me tbh.

[wheat vault]

No it's the KBDfans Tofu60 Walnut

[fresh jackal]

I can confirm this is NOT the case.

You're still going to need to reduce the LED brightness

A customer offered to send me a brand new coiled cable (no aviator) the other day, and if I enable tachyon and everything else, LED brightness has to be at 70% or less, or it spits out random letters by itself.

[round dove]

Just get straight cable instead of coiled

[wary mango]

There's a lot of ways to reduce stabiliser rattle, I think that lubing + bandaid modding the stabilisers is the most common

I think that at some point recently there was discussion of liquid latex for silencing going around as well as somebody that put XHT-BDZ in the bottom of his switch housing to make it fairly silent

[round dove]

My cablemod pro coiled worked fine with 100% brightness and tachyon mode on

But would still recommend just getting a straight cable

[slim pond]

No i looked at cablemod and decided against it, looks like cheap garbage to me. Looking at KBDfans coiled cable, said its handmade and ill post a pic of stats below

[fresh jackal]

They're all handmade.

Handmade doesn't mean better either necessarily - On the contrary 😄

[slim pond]

Yea i just feels these actually are good where as others are mainly machine produced

Kbdfans seems to actually care about stuff

[fresh jackal]

Like I said - You generally WANT machine produced. Means less production issues, more consistent quality.

[round dove]

Bro

You know handmade has worse soldering job lol

They're basically the same

[slim pond]

🤷 ig ill just see

[round dove]

If you open them up

Only dif to look at is the gauge size

Thicker better

[slim pond]

Just dont like cable mod, shit reviews on amazon and way to pricey for what it is, rather get the Glorious cable before that but like i said, found the KBDfans one so atleast wanna try that

[fresh jackal]

Are glorious cables cheaper?

[slim pond]

$50

[fresh jackal]

I have literally no frame of reference for that unless you give me prices of both brands compared 😄

[slim pond]

Glorious Coiled Keyboard Cable – Coiled USB C Cable Artisan Braided Cables for Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Coiled Cable - Custom Keyboard Cable (White) https://a.co/d/4ysI59K

[round dove]

Glorious cable is longer than cablemod btw

[slim pond]

Not even actually, $45 around, fully coiled and QD

[round dove]

It didnt even work with my rog claymore II properly

Doubt it will work with wooting

[slim pond]

4 ft, 6 inch coil

[fresh jackal]

That's that super cheap aviator that is so terrible, no one wants to recommend cables with it I think 😄

[slim pond]

Oh lol whys the aviator cheap? Like whats the difference?

[fresh jackal]

Bad quality, poor connection. You pick.

[slim pond]

I see

People seemed to like it 😪

[round dove]

If you check diy guide on coiled cable

You can see how its soldered

But tbh they more or less the same

I got a custom made usbc to c straight cable off aliexpress

Works fine so far

[slim pond]

https://kbdfans.com/products/pre-order-handmade-custom-mechanical-keyboard-usb-c-cable-1

Hows that one?

[fresh jackal]

You're going to run into the usual problems regardless. Gotta keep LED at below 70% or so.

[round dove]

Just get straight cable with connector

At 2m it works fine

Love the fn rgb customization btw

Actually can highlight the keys properly now

I can tell without looking at cheat sheet 😄

[slim pond]

I dont usually run tacheon mode, would i still need the rgb at 70?

[fresh jackal]

Probably not.

[slim pond]

Alr

[tawdry ivy]

I feel the coiled cable fad is kind of passed, see a lot more just straight cables done in different styles with quick disconnects now

[slim pond]

I still like the looks of em haha first custom build so trying that first, later on might change er up a bit

[slim pond]

This is a great video on a guide for cables: https://youtu.be/ve6qmFYVyTw

[tawdry ivy]

it’s literally all just the same stuff once you get to mid level cable brands and above

All you’re paying for after that is whether you like the look more or less

The level required for a cable to be quality enough for a keyboard to work is so low that you have to go really poorly made for it to ever have issues due to that

[north ledge]

If anybody is selling a tofu60 case pls msg me or if anybody has good case suggestions I looked at the list but couldn’t find something I liked besides the tofu

[tawdry ivy]

did kdbfans sell out their mini restock?

[north ledge]

When was the restock?

[tawdry ivy]

1-2 days ago

they had just white ones in, they keep finding leftover white stock from somewhere

[north ledge]

Oh I just looked and they are still available thanks for the heads up

[slim pond]

Anyone in here try Kalamity Cables or VoxelMod Cables? If so how are they?

[peak gull]

I have this exact one im currently using for the wooting, I've lowered the brightness while using tachyon mode. My W key wouldn't detect at times and would cut off my in game response

[round dove]

Psd60 is basically the same thing except it has logo

[slim pond]

Alright thanks for the input, good i crossed that off my list then lmao

[pseudo sun]

Thanks for the information!
I'll definitely try those methods

[regal hound]

@fresh jackal thats exactly why this cablemod cable is still in the box. Most bulk made coiled cables just don't seem to work well. I have 2 much higher quality handmade ones that seem to work ok (these both use 24ga wire instead of 28ga and use higher quality fittings and the solder work is impeccable). That said, I personally only use straight cables on my wooting.

[fresh jackal]

That's interesting.

[regal hound]

They also cost 3x as much as a cablemod cable so there's that.

[fresh jackal]

But yeah my Cablemod cable was a donation from a very nice customer for purposes of testing. And while it does work, it comes with the 70% LED brightness caveat, 150cm (not including the coil I believe) no aviator and C to A.

[regal hound]

Oh you know, my expensive ones are about a foot shorter than most other cables too (around 5ft) so that likely plays a large role also.

Sorry still waking up. You said there wasn't an aviator connector? That really is interesting then. I was going to say that cheap connectors would probably be the first thing I'd avoid.

[fresh jackal]

https://cablemod.com/product/cablemod-classic-coiled-keyboard-cable-glacier-white-usb-a-to-usb-type-c-150cm/

This one.

[regal hound]

Well damn. That is interesting then. I'll try this one out today to add a little data to the group. This is the build link - https://store.cablemod.com/configurator/?load=kbc:43e86034e431

[simple panther]

@fresh jackal thoughts on the ducky premicord?

Will it work on the wooting

[fresh jackal]

I have no idea what that is.

[simple panther]

Look it up pls

[fresh jackal]

No. You provide a link for me. I am not your servant 😛

[simple panther]

Alr my bad

https://levelupdesks.com/products/ducky-premicord-bon-voyage?currency=CAD&variant=41608122925262&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8e-gBhD0ARIsAJiDsaV_J8cmoZEu3vLxNdESscbmtEVjU--snF4CZS6BA2DVO9IwxgCsd-QaAr0KEALw_wcB

Just so i know if i have to buy myself a new cable lol

[fresh jackal]

It's a coiled cable with an aviator - As we've said time and time again. Yes it will probably work fine with Tachyon - But you will most likely need to reduce the LED brightness to below 70% or so or it will produce random inputs

[simple panther]

Are the lights still pretty bright at 70%

[fresh jackal]

Only one way to find out.

[simple panther]

Any cable that you would recommend?

[fresh jackal]

The stock one if you want to do everything the board can without compromises.

[simple panther]

Alr

Its braided right

Thoughts on rubber keycaps?

[tawdry ivy]

fine if you are willing to replace keycaps every so often

they get dirty and worn down

[simple panther]

Can't you clean them with hot water and soap

[mint gyro]

Hey guys! I've finally received my case and could mount my wooting into it, but I would like to look for a coiled cable that would support tachyon mode without having to care on the intensity of the lightning. any directions you could point for me please?

[fresh jackal]

No such thing.

[mint gyro]

allright, I might have to care for the lightning then 😄

Can't keep this cable

I can deal with the messy keycaps, but not with this cable

[carmine timber]

I just commissioned a set of coiled ones from Voxel

I can let you know of the results when I get it in a few weeks

Ping me if I forget

🙂

Fyi he charged me around $165 USD

[exotic haven]

Has anyone used the amazon case listed in the compatibility chart ?

[tawdry ivy]

You can use almost any decent cable if it’s not super long, even a coloured usb cable works if it’s just the colors you don’t like

[exotic haven]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HD14Q1M?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

This one

Does anyone have feedback about it ?

[mint gyro]

Allright! any idea of the limit size of the cable?

[tawdry ivy]

if you keep it same length as wooting cable or less it's fairly safe sizing

[mint gyro]

Allright that's plenty enough then ! Thanks for the info!

[fresh jackal]

You can use basically any cable - But you will most likely need to reduce the LED brightness.

[loud belfry]

The flat one? If yes, then yes. I got it added to the compatibility chart.

[regal hound]

@carmine timber one of the coiled ones I have is from voxel and seems to work, but again, they arent cheap, the guy does amazing work and uses high quality materials and my overall cable length is closer to 5' than 6' so Im sure that helps.

[simple panther]

Is it very hard to lube the wooting’s switches?

Like taking them out and everything

[regal hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_-GYLTfpY

[wheat vault]

No by using the right tools and looking at a few videos to understand what needs to be done will help

[fresh jackal]

It just takes time 😄

Took me about 4-5 hours in total from start to finish.

[simple panther]

Best lubing station or kit?

[mint gyro]

No it's not, I've done it this morning, was my first time doing it, took my time, and rebuilt the pcb, plate and switches within another case, and everything went fine, the video above is very helping

took me 4h though

[simple panther]

Damn

[mint gyro]

well, you have only 2 additional switches with your wooting, so better be careful while doing it, and be careful to do not overlube

[simple panther]

Yea dont want to bend pins lol

What kit did you buy

[mint gyro]

I took the lube kit from wooting

in my case there is an additional screw so I had to pierce a small hole in the foam from wooting that I have reused

I didn't take the stabilizer off, as they were already prette well lubed fro mfactory

[wheat vault]

Buy one from Amazon(The switch stand) e.g. but the Lube set from Wooting is perfect

[simple panther]

Alr

[carmine timber]

yeah I did a doubletake and somebody roasted me for paying that much but there's no doubt he does quality work and stands by it

@regal hound and you can use tachyon at 100%, right?

[regal hound]

I didnt have any issues with mine. It's themed for another board that I had on my desk and I plugged it in for a few and cranked the RGB up and didnt have an issue, but dont take that as endorsement. There would def need to be more/longer testing and as with any handmade product results my vary.

[carmine timber]

no worries, I'll be reporting back as well

only thing is my cable will be a bit longer than yours

[fresh jackal]

I'm just hoping we get our cable project going soon. Would make it a lot simpler if we offered an official coiled cable with a Wooting stamp of approval 😄

[carmine timber]

not massively longer but it will be longer

[carmine timber]

ah is this in the works?

I'd probably spring tbh

make a purple one 😭

[regal hound]

I cant lie, I was going to suggest making a confirmed cable board like you did with the cases but that would be a nightmare

Way too many variances and brands

[fresh jackal]

Calder teased it a month? ago on a livestream. But sadly the whole stream was muted by Twitch. It's still in the early discovery stage.

[carmine timber]

I think that's why across the board the official answer will be "don't use cheap disconnects, don't use coiled, and if you use it, go below 70% brightness" lol

[fresh jackal]

Like how we keep reviving the idea to make mousepads once a year and, and then scrap it because we don't like the options compared to our expectations 😄

[carmine timber]

ya

[carmine timber]

Ah and it's a super saturated field, too

[regal hound]

I mean I probably own 20 cables ranging from $5-$200 and this is what's plugged in right now

[carmine timber]

I have a black Razer cable in mine atm

works great lol

It's just not 🌸 aesthetic ✨

I essentially paid $170 for aesthetic 🫠

[regal hound]

I was having some issues a few months back and went down a rabbit hole of thinking it was the cable and I wont get into that story again but it wasnt the cable. Unless Im changing out my whole setup, I just use a black or white straight cable most of the time

[carmine timber]

I think I actually saw that ticket lol

It was a whole storyline

complete with cliffhangers

[spiral quiver]

Since the 2he area is crickets and I'm not sure where else would be a more appropriate place to ask, does anyone know of any solid quality pbt keycaps that are black/grayish? I got the Seal set from Kinetic labs but it's only a month in and my wasd keys are already getting shiny. I could understand if I was some sort of hardcore valorant/cs:go/cod/fortnite player playing hours a day, but I've only really been casually playing Deep Rock Galactic maybe one or two hours a day if that.

[rustic anchor]

Hmm if we just turn off the LED/RGB, I'm guessing a coiled cable is no longer an issue?

[fresh jackal]

Correct.

[upper mist]

Even just 70% brightness is enough of a reduction for 99.9% of cases

[simple panther]

Is 5g enough lube for a kb or is 10 more recommended?

[exotic haven]

The only one that has no brand from aliexpress and in comments there is a link to amazon. Have you tested it ?

[loud belfry]

Yea

[neon yarrow]

Have been wanting a coiled cable, but I’m skeptical because of power issues. Any recommendations for a coiled cable or should I just stick to oem?

[fresh jackal]

Do you want 100% LED brightness? Stay with stock cable.
Otherwise you do you - most cables will run with LED at around 70%

[bleak cosmos]

do switch pads/films/tripods cause issues with the magnet tolerances?

[fresh jackal]

They can.

[simple panther]

Is it braided?

[tawdry ivy]

that's enough for more than a keyboard

way more than you need for one lube

[simple panther]

Bet

[bleak cosmos]

thats quite vague. is one better than another?

[tawdry ivy]

the better option is to not use any of them

[simple panther]

Any 205G0 is fine or krytox is better

[tawdry ivy]

generally they're all fine, but official krytox consistency is nicer imo - but i've never really seen anyone with non krytox say it didn't work fine

[fresh jackal]

Let me put it this way - There are no official films or pads for our switch design. Anything you do will be DIY and putting any kind of cushion inside of the switch or between the switch plate and switch can cause movement that could - potentially cause sensor variation.

[simple panther]

Alr thanks sno

And does it make a big difference for gaming

[tawdry ivy]

what does?

[simple panther]

Lubing the switches

[tawdry ivy]

nope

zero difference gaming, it's just for sound

[simple panther]

Ahh ok lol

[bleak cosmos]

ah ok. thanks for letting me know

[simple panther]

Any mods that make a big difference in gaming?

[tawdry ivy]

nope

it's all cosmetic

or sound

[simple panther]

Okk thanks

[exotic haven]

Are the ruber feets ok or you are not using them ?

[exotic haven]

btw you are using doble shot black pudding keycaps right?

Except at the borders maybe?

[loud belfry]

The rubber feet are on there but they don't align with the cutouts on the case so they're meh. And yea, they're the Hyper X puddings in the middle with the stock caps on the perimeter.

[red elk]

just built mine after 20 min of owning so happy with it

[regal hound]

Looks good man!

The artisan fits well

[nocturne bluff]

Wait did you lube it all as well? looks nice

[red elk]

no sir case swap,stock foam and key caps were only things changed, key board with un lubed switches has a very deep sound!

[nocturne bluff]

nice. You thinking of lubing next or fine as is

Lube helps makes the switches "Feel" nicer for some

[worn surge]

Very nice mod! Got a link to the case? I'd like that brightness but in blue if that store has any!"

[regal hound]

@worn surge he got the case from me and they didn't make blue but I do have cyan

[red elk]

leave as is, this is just strictly for gaming so with over the head head phones (razer black shark v2 pro's) i virtually hear no sound back round sound. as for feel i have been on a razor huntsman mini for a while (purple clicky) the feel is already amazing to me, But could get bored and do it never know haha.

[quiet talon]

done with the mods

dont mind the ] key they sent me the wrong one rip

heres the sound

[hearty dew]

oooh an upside down spacebar enjoyer i see

[finite meteor]

every time I see that I get triggered

also a kitten gets sad

[hearty dew]

i mean it makes it sound much deeper but i could see not liking it

[finite meteor]

is that the sole reason tho? I don't usually hear the sound at all cus I like to listen to music 24/7 with ear-bleeding volume

[quiet talon]

i would use it normally if i had a wrist rest

[hearty dew]

^ literally what i was about to say lol

but its more comfortable with higher profile keyboards if you dont have a wrist rest

[finite meteor]

never tried it tbh, maybe you guys just made me a believer

anyway cmo's kb looks nicenice

[hearty dew]

you should for sure try it, i wasnt a huge fan at first and its a matter of personal preference but def worth a try

[finite meteor]

yeah, doesn't take much effort to try at least

tho I have no idea where I threw the puller

[abstract pelican]

WHAT MODS DI DU DO

[quiet talon]

thanks

[quiet talon]

lubed with 205g0 and 105 for springs, techkeys 60% aluminum case, milk fog oem keycaps from amazon

used first layer of foam that came with original wooting case

not sure if the aluminum case is fully compatible as the pcb wobbles without the foam

[abstract pelican]

i c i c

anything else

[quiet talon]

maybe some middle stem is probably a bit higher than others and I haven't screwed the board in yet

[abstract pelican]

oh lol

[quiet talon]

6 hours of lubing

[abstract pelican]

LMFAO

im finna bag lube the springs

so hopfully

cuts some time off

[quiet talon]

that aint nothing compared to the actual housing and stem lube

[gusty tiger]

gl, time spent just comes back in separating the springs after shaking @abstract pelican

[abstract pelican]

LMFAO

cant wait to spend an entire afternoon

[finite meteor]

get a separate bag for every spring, problem solved

[quiet talon]

separating the springs werent that bad

just dont separate them with force

[abstract pelican]

bruh

maybe i will just lube them by hand

...

[bleak cosmos]

what case is that?

[quiet talon]

techkeys 60% aluminum case

read what i said about it above

[bleak cosmos]

ok

[simple panther]

w sound

[rough tartan]

anybody know where i can still find a Tofu 60 v1 case in grey?

[quiet talon]

it turned out better than i expected

[gusty tiger]

gonna be really hard, white is surprisingly back in stock on kbd

[simple panther]

is there a huge difference between dye subbed and doubleshot?

[subtle furnace]

Any reccomendations for black and grey keycaps?

[dawn steeple]

https://kbdfans.com/products/cherry-profile-cement-grey-japanese-pbt-dye-sub-keycaps-set?_pos=3&_psq=Cement&_ss=e&_v=1.0

These are more grey than black but they look nice to me

There’s probably some better ones out there

[mystic blaze]

I have those - they are not bad

[frail valley]

liquid latex has arrived. i'll put the latex onto one single switch, the one for the \ key, because that one is by far the most rattly. i'll see how long it takes to cure and whatnot, i believe something like 12 hours or so seems about right

[frail valley]

and now, we wait.

[still laurel]

Is there anything I need to do to prep the Wooting case before pouring silicone in the bottom?

[upper mist]

I'd tape off the standoffs to make sure you don't get any in there

[ancient pecan]

Do the lekkers need hand lubing or is the factory lube decent enough?

[fresh jackal]

Personal preference.

If you have 4-5 hours to spare I would say, yes. Worth.

[ancient pecan]

I suppose I'll have to look into it then

Also questions about keycaps, are there specific websites that have large quantities of cherry Mx styles for the 60he?

[still laurel]

Good to know. Should I be pouring up to the top of the standoffs? Or leave some room? Will I have problems if pieces on the pcb are touching the silicone after it’s dry?

[upper mist]

We do have important and sensitive components on the underside of the case, so for sure leave room for those

[fresh jackal]

The PCB needs a good 2mm space everywhere that isn't right on the standoffs.

[upper mist]

*PCBA

[fresh jackal]

So uh... be careful. Don't do like me and kill your first shiny 60HE 10minutes after unboxing it 😄

All of the important bits are on the bottom. So yeah - Measure twice 😄

[still laurel]

Good to know!

[spiral quiver]

Ooh, I was looking for some pbt gray/ black keycaps, might consider those

[spiral quiver]

Wooting ergonomic keyboard when?

[still laurel]

So for the original case I just pour up to this cross brace piece?

Obviously will make sure it’s level first

[fresh jackal]

That looks like 2mm at a glance, yes. Be sure to measure at the "front" where the case is a lot flatter.

[still laurel]

Yeah I won’t pour any at the very front. The original foam barely goes to the front stand-off and it has imprints so I’ll stay back a ways. For the USB port I assume I just carve some till it fits?

[regal plank]

It looks sweet though. Wanting to make something similar but black keycaps (also blank). So you just used the foam inside wooting case and doesn't wobble?

[regal hound]

Goooooooooooood morning everyone

Oh since you're here and its slow in this channel. Quick question! Wooting switches are showing as in-stock in the US on the site but orders for them sitting at the waiting phase for about 2 months now. Any idea on why the delay?

[fresh jackal]

It's all being done by hand. I know Jeroen and Mark packed a TON of switch packs yesterday. But I don't know how/where they're going exactly. @upper mist ?

[upper mist]

The got mailed to the fulfillment center, should ship out next week

[regal hound]

Wait, if they are packing by hand then I kindly request a pre-lube add-on service where Mark does them all before shipping

Im thinking at extra 50 cents a switch 😉

[fresh jackal]

[regal hound]

lol

[upper mist]

Probably need to do another round... Y'all keep ordering them 😅
Eventually we'll get the packs made at scale in a factory, but that'll be a few months still

[regal hound]

So they are in stock, just not packed. Makes sense

[upper mist]

There's no way that I do this for less than twenty dollars per switch, with minimum order quantities

[loud belfry]

You can also thread the screws into them.

[upper mist]

I'd be nervous about getting the screw stuck and then stripping it trying to get it back out 😅

[loud belfry]

It'd be fine. The silicone isn't sticky at all.

[ancient pecan]

Well if you're offering...

[fresh jackal]

[regal hound]

Just be sure to wash everything off with silicone safe cleaner when you're done. My gf has like a gallon of that cleaner in her bathroom for some reason so it must be cheap.

[ancient pecan]

Does anyone have recommendations for the impatient wanting to get their hands on a universal 60% aluminium case? Im think about AliExpress but uhh it's AliExpress

At least for the specific one I want

[regal hound]

If youre in the US shoot me a DM and Ill see what I can do.

AliExpress is pretty safe though if youre buying from reputable vendors

[ancient pecan]

I'll keep that in mind

I'm completely new to modding in general so I'm wanting to do decent mods

[pure obsidian]

Hiya, I know this was quite a while ago and I'm sorry to ping you, but I've been going through the discord to see what my options are for acrylic cases now that the tofu is a no go, were you ever able to get the Carina to work?

[regal hound]

I never tried those cases, was just suggesting it might work. There are a few options on AliExpress and I might have 1 or 2 options if you are in the US and want to DM me

[pure obsidian]

Ahh ok, I'm not in the US unfortunately but I'd be super interested in seeing any suggestions you might have, I've looked on ali express before but the only real option I've seen that would work as is is the Acrylic GH60

[still laurel]

Well fingers crossed I did it well lol. Although I could retry 2 more times if I needed to with the amount of silicone I have left lol

[wary mango]

please share sound comparisons when you're done! let us know how the switch feels, any noticeable changes etc. because I'm super interested in doing this too

[quiet talon]

yup i used the first layer of the foam inside the wooting case and i did not screw in the pcb to the case

still not sure what is causing the wobble but ill look into it

im also thinking of slicing the foam in half as it is still too thick

[quiet talon]

just checked and it may just be because I have not screwed the pcb in

ill check later if it still happens screwed in (waiting for the screws at the moment)

[latent sedge]

Finally finished my custom Wooting with a tofu60 after looking forever for them to come back in stock! Now I just need some keycaps

@ancient pecan if you want a white case the tofu60 is in stock on kbdfans. Only in white though

[ancient pecan]

It says they're currently out of stock

Unless it is the 2.0

[latent sedge]

no not the 2.0

It was in stock yesterday 😦

Sold out now

[ancient pecan]

Dang

I'll have to keep myself updated on that

I'm looking at the drop ALT high profile instead though

[latent sedge]

For a case?

That's a 65% case

[ancient pecan]

Is it?

I thought it was a 60%

Oh it is a 65

The heck

Back to the drawing board

[regal hound]

@ancient pecan https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[ancient pecan]

Dankeschön

[still laurel]

If I have foam between the PBCA and the silicone would that protect it fully? Or is it ultimately a heat issue? I also thought silicone was non-conductive so I’m confused what would kill the pcb from touching silicone

[rugged temple]

Any updates on the frog mini build video from @patent cargo I’m so curious about this build and the extra doing/costs for the plate

[rustic anchor]

curious on this as well. if we have silicone (for ex. in a tofu60). could it fry the pcb or something?

[regal hound]

Silicon isn't conductive. A lot of manufactures use silicon for the dampening material (Freebird60 for example)

[loud belfry]

The issue is if you fill it up too much and then screw the PCB in, it will get pressed against the silicone and damage components.

[still laurel]

So foam compresses more whereas silicone won’t. Would foam in between the silicone and the pcb be bad? Or fine?

[gusty tiger]

It’s just the fact it’s easier to overfill silicone vs the foam that’s usually precut. I think

If you put too much foam, in reality.. i believe the same thing could happen?

[gusty bison]

:D

[stiff forge]

have people gummy oring mounted the wooting into 3rd party cases?

i currently have a gummy oring tofu and wondering if it could work with the wooting internals

[wide smelt]

Super sad to see the White TOFU60 show up as “discontinued” my keyboard is coming next week and I went to the website to pull the trigger on it.

Any other suggestions for a solid white case? I see the Fjell and the Freebird so if anyone has one here how do you like those?

[digital cloud]

Maze64

I have it in white and it’s pretty nice

[digital cloud]

I added silicon stand off cover rather than o ring mount because they are smaller. They work well

[obtuse path]

Hi Guys. My 60HE is coming next week and I have made some modding preperations in advance. The more I´ve read about it the less confident I am that all these Mods are neccessary/good. I have a Mekanisk Klippe T Case with two sheets of the Mekanisk Dampening Foam which I am planing to use. Other than that I have bought TX Films (0.15mm), Durock Piano Plate Mount Stabs and Lube/grease for the Switches/Stabs and I got some Painterstape to use if I want to TapeMod the PCB. I will use my Keyboard almost exclusively for CounterStrike. The Main thing I am not sure of is Filming the Switches but since its a pain in the ass to open all the switches I want it to be done when lubing. Has anyone done it and what is the experience with RapidTrigger etc? does it affect actuation points negatively or so? Is it even neccessary to switch the Stabs and maybe HoleeMod them?

[digital cloud]

I have heard filming the switches negatively affects the switches. I’ve been told that buying Durock stabs is not an improvement over the stock ones. I have case swapped, added foam, tap mod, and mounted it using silicon stand-off covers. All of those mods helped it I think. Once I turn in my dissertation I’ll lube the stabs and switches

[obtuse path]

Yeah I heard these things as well, but at that time I had it already ordered and maybe there is more information to get now. I forgot to mention that I also bought some silcone O-Rings to Burger-Mount it. Good Luck for the dissertation! I mainly bought the Durocks to be able to mod them since the stock stabs already are prelubed etc.

[digital cloud]

Thanks!

Depending on the fit of the case you might want to forgo burger mounting and stick with silicon stand-off cover. The maze 64 case is pretty tight especially with foam and tape mod so i couldn’t burger mount it

But your case might afford you with more space

The issue will be making sure the usb port lines up with the hole

[frail valley]

latex mod update

idk if it's my own ineptitude (though honestly it looks ok) but uh... it doesn't dampen. at all.

maybe it's the kind of latex i bought? i don't know

but yeah. doesn't work

ig i'll just pray for an U4Tx type of lekker switch lmao

[gusty tiger]

I have an extra brand new white tofu if youre interested and in the US, Dm me

[gusty tiger]

yes, @regal hound helped me gummy o-ring mount mine into a klippe

[grizzled whale]

any cable reccomendations? I've heard that coiled cables can impair functionality

or is the stock one fine?

[bleak cosmos]

is tape mod witb painters tape safe to do with all electronics on back of pcb

[tawdry ivy]

tape mod does jack all for sound with wooting honestly, barely if any difference in any of the videos i've seen of it

[fresh jackal]

Yes.

[regal hound]

I'm not a fan of tape mod with this board either.

[bleak cosmos]

ah okay

i might try it since it looks easy enough and see what i think of it.

[tawdry ivy]

be a bit careful with doing it, there was a thread in support of someone who didn't do it quite right and caused their keyboard to malfunction

[ancient pecan]

damn lubing the 60he would be hella good

heard some sound tests and it sounds good

[eager pasture]

Ultramarine Klippe T case
Factory lubed switches, springs and stabs (no 205G0)*
35a O-ring medium size by GraveShift
3 layers of 3M blue painters tape, 4 layers underneath spacebar area
2mm Ensolite foam cut to fit case

Happy Saturday Wooting fans!

[noble laurel]

Case swap, new caps, durock stabs, tape modded, thin case foam, burger mounted and lubed 50g switches

[naive parcel]

Are you using those stabs ?

[noble laurel]

Using these https://shockport.ca/collections/stabilizers/products/everglide-panda-v3-stabilizer

Not much of a upgrade over stock stabs ngl

But already had them to just put them to use

[coarse urchin]

Anybody here have GMK Honor Light keycaps? I want to get them for my 60HE but I had a previous problem with other keycaps from drop with the RGB lighting from my wooting shining through the keycaps

[coarse urchin]

what keycaps are those? they look really nice

[noble laurel]

xiami red zhuyin

can get them on 21kb

[coarse urchin]

have you tried wootings rgb on them? does it shine through the caps?

[noble laurel]

Nope doesn’t shine through

GMK caps shouldn’t shine through either

F G H J keys are GMK toko

[feral siren]

I went through a LOT of stabs.

[coarse urchin]

thanks for the help

[feral siren]

Way back when last year, if you're still struggling to get your stabs clean I recommend trying these.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B094CMLZ3L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The wire thickness affects the Wooting in my experience.

These have the right thickness for thw ires

[vagrant kernel]

based build

[silver moon]

keycaps?

[eager pasture]

Sorry about that. I knew I forgot to include the keycaps in my build list. They are the CannonCaps Moon PBT keycaps.

[silver moon]

dont worry lad! thanks ❤️

[tawny crater]

https://imgur.com/a/8ukk0UY
Wooting mods go brr.
Wooting 60HE
Switches Lubed with Krytox 205g0 on stems, springs lubed with Krytox gpl 105g0
Case Swapped to a polycarbonate Klippe T by Mekanisk
GMK Striker r2 keycaps

anyone interested in a sound test 🤔 I upload soundtests for custom keebs, maybe I can do the wooting

[nocturne bluff]

Sick!! I’m putting on striker r2 as well on my Wooting

[bleak cosmos]

is the full lube kit on wootings site good?

i mean, it obviously is but are there better options out there

[tawny crater]

w

[tawny crater]

im not sure, im into custom keebn so i had the materials prior. do you want to send me the link and i can give you my honest opinion

anyone can dm me for help if theyd like. dont mind answering some questions

[bleak cosmos]

SURE

SORRY CAPS LOCK HAS VERY SMALL ACTUATION

[tawny crater]

lololol

[bleak cosmos]

link?

[tawny crater]

link to he lube kit or whatever?

[gusty tiger]

it's fine

[bleak cosmos]

ye

[gusty tiger]

they aren't marking it up or anything, it's not low quality

It's the same thing you'd get ordering the items by themself

[tawny crater]

yeah i doubt its low quality

[bleak cosmos]

thats what i figured i was just curious if theres a better option at there

[tawny crater]

but imho the keyboard needs to be modded

[gusty tiger]

Nah not really, and also not really

it's all preference

[tawny crater]

i said imho

[gusty tiger]

You also said needs

[tawny crater]

yes.. in my opinion the board needs to be modded

for my personal use

lol

the stock feel of the switches are not good.. imo

[gusty tiger]

imho i think water needs ice

[tawny crater]

nice you are entitled tyo your opinions

just tryna help people out man

if anyone has questions feel free to dm me lmao'

cba here

[gusty tiger]

it's not helpfuil to imply something is needed lmao

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-crying-face-gif-20235014

[tawny crater]

k have a nice day bro

[gusty tiger]

how old are you?

[tawny crater]

why does that matter

you are extremely immature man

[gusty tiger]

someone disagrees with you and you rage off, pretty immature

goodluck

[tawny crater]

im here to have a discussion

[gusty tiger]

Clearly notr

LMFAOLOJMDFGOJDNSg

I literally disagreed with you and you're crying

[tawny crater]

bro what

lmao

im sorry you must have misunderstood

all good. have a nice night man

hopefully whatever you are going through gets better

[tawny crater]

sorry about the interruption, if you want my subjectively objective subjective personal opinion on the matter. the keyboard benefits from a nice lube job!

i suggest getting whatever kit you can find as long as its high quality lube. im not sure what the kit they offer is but i used krytox 205g0 which is a standard medium-thick lube and lightly coated just the stem. also the springs are super crunchy and since they are a bigger size than typical switch springs you cant swap em. lubing the springs with gpl oil made a huge difference.

[bleak cosmos]

okay

[tawny crater]

not sure about the karen that interrupted me but if anyone feels offended that i said the keyboard needs modding, i didnt mean the case swap and all that was necessary. obviously its all cosmetic, the pcb is the same lol.

[bleak cosmos]

this is their kit on the wooting store https://next.wooting.io/product/wooting-switch-lubricant-lube-set i donmt know if they have the gpl oil you were talking about

[tawny crater]

yes! thats krytox 205g0. cool to see that wooting sells small containers

btw you dont really need the other grease unless it comes as a package. you can just lube your stabs with krytox

and fill in the holes in the center of the housings where the wires are with it. works just as fine. also the oil im talking about is krytox gpl 105 oil, if its a lot of work for you and you are running on a budget you dont have to buy it. you can try just donut dupping your springs in the krytox but i dont really go that route

[vestal python]

im new to keyboarding in general. Looking to lube my switches and or stabilizers. I would like it to sound better so that is my goal. is the process easy going on beginners?

[quiet talon]

it was pretty easy once you start lubing

you just have to be consistent and have spare time to lube

[bleak cosmos]

do the press down switch openers work good or should i get a fancier one?

[quiet talon]

it was okay with the normal openers

you may have to open with your hand after the initial press

some of them doesnt open all the way

[nova wasp]

Hello fellow 60He members, I got my keyboard not to long ago and finally decided I want to mod it out. I'm looking for a really thocky build but not crazily loud. I'm looking at changing the case, sound dampening, maybe pcb? and might be willing to lube the switches if needed. and any other recommendations you would make on making it sound thocky. Any recommendations/info would be greatly appreciated as I am a noob to modding keyboards. (Looking for purple theme too)

i'm looking forward to your responses you modding kings 🫡

[quiet talon]

def lube the switches if you are going for those sounds

the foam that is included in the wooting case is great and can be used with other cases

[bleak cosmos]

is there any way to make them a little quieter than they are, I figured lubing would help with that too but im not too sure.

[nova wasp]

okay so I won't really need any foam, lubing recommended. what abt case material? does that make much of a difference

[quiet talon]

quieter in volume? lubing does make it quieter

but for me it was to make them produce more a clean sound than stock

[quiet talon]

you can change out the foam to a different one but the included foam is good

aluminum cases does make deeper sound than plastic case in my opinion

[quiet talon]

heres my mod if you want to listen how it sounds

[nova wasp]

okay great thank you for your advice, do you know much abt the different types of lube, or just go for the one wooting recommends? sorry these might be really dumb questions ive never touched modding since i've only had shitty ass keyboards in the past 💀

[quiet talon]

you can go with the wooting one

i bought my lube from a different store but its the same 205g0

[nova wasp]

cool cool, whenever you send that audio over for your keyboard id appreciate that just for some comparison.

[quiet talon]

you can click my post above if you want to listen to the sound

[nova wasp]

ohh gotcha gotcha, I missed that. sounds perfect man. what all did you do? just lube and case?

[quiet talon]

lubed the switches and changed case

thats it

[nova wasp]

dope, crazy how much of a difference it makes 💀, really appreciate your help fr. do u know much abt keycaps, do I have to look for specific ones that fit or do any work usually? also any specific brands that are recommended?

[quiet talon]

np glad it helped

[quiet talon]

any cherry mx styled ones will fit and you go for any brand

[nova wasp]

okay dope, I heard cherry mx hides some of the rgb. is that the only option? just tryna clarify

[quiet talon]

as long as you use translucent keycaps itll be fine

[bleak cosmos]

judging by how expensive that stuff is for just a little bit then i think ill stick with just hand lubing the springs

and both those lubes do come in a pack it doesnt let me get an individual one

[bleak cosmos]

Has anyone made a film model to 3d print?

[stiff forge]

@regal hound did you have to do any modifications to your wooting pcb for gummy mount to work ?

[tawdry ivy]

I really wouldn’t mess around with those

Films might mess with your wootings performance, unless you’re just putting them in to experiment it doesn’t really make sense to do those

[round dove]

I gummy mounted mine, no doesnt need any mod on pcb to work

[stiff forge]

ah nice ok

i’ll probably try gummy first then if not just screw in

[round dove]

The only thing i find with gummy mount is its hard to get it out lol

Otherwise sound def better than screw mount

[stiff forge]

what hardness oring do you use?

iirc my current one is 35A

[tawdry ivy]

nice, freebird60 cases soon - seems they're just waiting on the silicon dampeners to ship it all out

[oak ginkgo]

Epic!

If they arrive within one week of each other that would be great.

[tawny crater]

The switches don’t sound amazing regardless. Before and after lube makes a big difference. It’s a gaming keyboard after all, it’s not meant to sound great so it doesn’t bother me as much lol

The process is pretty easy, you can look up a video, or feel free to dm me any questions. Most people fuck up their first lube job (mine was terrible) so I can make sure you don’t mess up on expensive switches like these

Cmo looks like he knows what he’s talking about too so whatever he said is right lol

[oak ginkgo]

I think with enough mods and a case swap you can make it sound very nice.

[tawny crater]

True, my standards pretty high tho since I’m a big keeb enthusiast lol

For a person who’s new to modding keebs it could be a very fun experience

I’m just saying for those who dealt with custom keebs this is strictly a gaming board and not an enthusiast typing board

[oak ginkgo]

I see it as a fun challenge.

[tawny crater]

Haha it’s true

I’m wondering how the board would sound in alu chassis since I chose to go polycarbonate

[oak ginkgo]

If I can get a keychron K1 to thock, then I can make the 60HE thock as well.

And the K1 was rather difficult, since it used low profile Gateron switches.

So traditional lubing methods are out the window.

Also the case construction is way different.

[summer geyser]

So what's top mods to do to wooting to give it a better sound?

[oak ginkgo]

Case swap, lube switches, and Holee mod.

[tawdry ivy]

For sound case swap probably doesn’t help much

But it does look cool

[digital cloud]

Can you holee mod it without messing up the calibration?

[tawdry ivy]

Lubing is going to be like 95% of the way there as far as easy to do sound mods, after that there’s serious diminishing returns on what you actually get

[patent sorrel]

do we have a list for plates that fit the 60he?

[fresh jackal]

Here you go.

blank piece of paper

[patent sorrel]

sadge

the stock plate is 1,5mm thick right?

[oak ginkgo]

No, it’s a very special plate that has specifically placed standoffs on it.

Also it’s made of steel

Most metal plates are made of aluminum or brass

[latent sedge]

Are there any cases that are a perfect fit for the wooting 60? My Tofu has a slight gap on the right side due to the pcb being placed all the way to the left to fit the usb port.

[fresh jackal]

That's just life and tolerances.

The Tofu is a "perfect" fit.

[oak ginkgo]

It’s perfectly imperfect they say

[ancient pecan]

any specific plate mount stabs that are good for thocc?

[fresh jackal]

Stock ones.

No need to change them. No improvement.

[ancient pecan]

gotcha

[austere walrus]

Klippe T
GMK minimal 2 caps
Krytox 205g0

[patent sorrel]

you can holee mod them to remove the rattle

[regal hound]

@latent sedge the Klippe and Fjell are better than the Tofu in that regard because the USB cutout is larger so the alignment will be better.

I surprised that half of a mm bothers you that much but I get it.

[fresh jackal]

If you're desperate, you could tale a small file and shave off just a mm off the connector.

This would let you shift the PCB back, and the connector is not something you look at as often.

[latent sedge]

It doesn’t bother me that much. I was just curious. Definitely not spending another $150+ on a case

[regal hound]

Good idea. 99% of people would never notice unless you pointed it out and even then it would be tough

[round dove]

55A, got it off aliexpress lol

[round dove]

Psd60 and psd60re from aliexpress

Sold my tofu 60 since the uneven gap is annoying

[gusty tiger]

you prefer the giant word on the back vs the like super small mm gap? actually curious

[round dove]

I got the clone to psd60re

Theres no logo at all

[gusty tiger]

ahhhhhh interesting

[round dove]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mLpFVFg
@latent sedge

No logo version of psd60re

[gusty tiger]

Not sure I’m a fan of the rounded edges

[round dove]

I like rounded edge better than sharp ones

[gusty tiger]

Nice, yea thats perfect for you then. I like the green color but I couldn’t do the rounded edges

[void dust]

when the hell did mekanisk make a poly klippe?

[ornate plank]

Just came in to show off my board. I’m quite proud

Lubed and filmed switches, durok stabs with clear stems and prefab stab pads, clear key caps, painted wooting case, custom strap.

[hazy sentinel]

Debating whether I should tape mod

[ancient pecan]

def worth imo

[ornate plank]

@hazy sentinel it depends on the case. In the wooting case I tried with and without and it made no difference. In an aluminum case it may be more noticeable however

[oak ginkgo]

It’s worth a try, it’s easy, cheap, and if you don’t like it you can easily remove the tape.

[hazy sentinel]

Wood case

[oak ginkgo]

How warped were the films when you tried to put them on?

Because normal Gateron films will not work on the lekker switch.

[hazy sentinel]

I wouldn't film unless its really bad because it might fuck with the actuation points

[oak ginkgo]

No, the thickness it adds is negligible

The hall sensors are only accurate up to 0.1mm and these films are much thinner than that.

Or at least most of them that I see.

[hazy sentinel]

I remember reading that films messed with the switches

[oak ginkgo]

Well, the films just simply don’t work

They get too distorted to be effective at all.

Because of the wider stem rails

[hazy sentinel]

Might have been that

[tawny crater]

haha idek i saw it on r/mm and had to jump

[oak ginkgo]

although the first iteration of the lekker switch would have been fine with films because of its kailh like switch construction and box stem design which means it doesn’t need the extra wide rails.

[summer geyser]

Do gaffer tape instead. More poppy

[hazy sentinel]

Have the kbdfans tape thing

[oak ginkgo]

gaff tape?

[naive parcel]

Can we use screw in stabs for the wooting pcb ??

[flat phoenix]

no

only plate mount

[naive parcel]

The original stabs are good or we can change it ?

[hazy sentinel]

You can change it but the stabs in there are already really good imo

[naive parcel]

And is it possible to holeemod the original stabs ?

[void dust]

apparently it was well before they moved over to in-stock sales

rip, once again foiled by the one-off group buy nature of high end keebs

[tawny crater]

Lmao

[regal hound]

@void dust They were a limited GB order during Klippe r4. If you really want one I've got a new one in the box that I might be convinced to sell.

They have done limited edition of a few different cases but the rarest one was the nickel coated solid brass Klippe that weighs over 8lbs. Only 30 made.

[void dust]

nah, i'm good. I've got a purple fjell waiting for the wooting

[ornate plank]

I'm a sizing chemist so I have access to a low viscosity PFTE film coating that makes about 0.2mm thick layers when dipped and allowed to dry.

It removed any play the top housing had from the bottom. It probably wasn't worth the time spent sound wise but I had to wait for my paint to dry anyway so it's NHNT.

[ornate plank]

the original stabs are super standard so it's possible. Amazon has pre-cut stab pads and strips of super thin foam that worked really well for me

[hazy sentinel]

How much would you be looking for if you did sell?

[flat phoenix]

do you have a picture of the nickel coated one? I'd really like to see it

[naive parcel]

Link ??

[flat phoenix]

just use band-aids so you dont have to go through the hassle of buying them

unless you dont actually have band-aids

[regal hound]

@flat phoenix

@hazy sentinel send me a dm

[flat phoenix]

looks quite clean

[still laurel]

What did you do for the paint? Just acrylic (I think that’s what you would want right?) spray paint? And any prep/primer or just paint right away?

[sudden socket]

Nice. Aluminum case? Case name?

[ornate plank]

KPrepublic PCB Stabilizer... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09M3DLVH1?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share I thought they worked great. I’ve done the holee mod maybe 20 times on different keyboards now and the ones from Amazon are thinner and perfectly cut to size. They are cheap so I don’t think I’ll use bandaids again.

[ornate plank]

Sanded the plastic with 800 grit sandpaper to roughen it up. Primed with a thin coat of white plastic primer. Waited 45 mins. Sanded lightly. Second primer coat. 45 mins then sand. 3 coats total of acrylic spray paint. Then 2 layers of a matte clear coat

[median helm]

what about changing the plate tho? i heard it wouldnt work if you tried to use something else

[fresh jackal]

Gotta go custom.

[oak ginkgo]

I see.

[gaunt minnow]

Anyone have a recommended tape for the wooting 60HE pcb that don’t damage it

[ocean lantern]

painter's tape is the go to for tape mod normally

[gaunt minnow]

Oh alright

Thank you

[oak ginkgo]

You can always experiment with different types of tape

[bleak cosmos]

yo we twinning

[hallow galleon]

Make sure you compare the sounds with and without tape with your foam in the case.

Sometimes, people prefer it without the tape

Also make sure you test it with the keycaps you'll be using with them

[clever tinsel]

Anyone bought this case? https://hibi.mx/collections/in-house/products/june

[regal hound]

Good morning mod junkies

@fresh jackal Can I petition to move the channel out as a sub channel? I think our visibility is reduced and I find we get a ton of modding questions in the other channels because they dont really see this one.

And Im lazy and dont like looking at other channels so its really all about me.

[fresh jackal]

The trouble with that is server channel count. We have a ... lot of them, and frankly I'd prefer to cut DOWN, not EXPAND 😄

And with a new device coming soon, that means another thread/channel to boot.