60he community modding

[fleet bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09LQPC78N/ - Hmm maybe I just order these and see what happens

[limber sorrel]

Could be magnetic depending on the type of spring steel

But if you were able to find those you can probably find similar options

[fleet bloom]

Oop i missed that it was spring steel for those, most have been 304 stainless

[limber sorrel]

Heh, yeah, tricky details

[fleet bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B6HXNMN9 - I think these may fit, the ID is 3.4mm and they need to fit on a 4mm shaft, but it may just flex enough to

Those list .33n/mm as their rate, I'll have to take some better measurements of a stock spring unless someone from Wooting happens to have the info and is willing to share

[limber sorrel]

That sounds like you would probably be better off buying the Wooting alternate spring set

...if they are actually different, or stiffer. The review-comments seem to indicate they are, but I'm not sure

[fleet bloom]

I thought the stock ones were stiffer than the 50g set offered by wooting

I'm not positive on how that .33N/mm number stacks up against the stock springs since it varies so much with slight measuring inconsistencies

Or how significant something like .33 -> .66N/mm actually is in a real world scenario... would it actually feel twice as stiff? Dunno

[molten trail]

I've got the durock dolphin switches in my current keyboard. I'm a huge fan of the feeling\sound of these switches. I'm wondering if you think just adding the durock style gaskets would be enough to replicate that?

I tend to bottom out the keys since I find that using lighter springs are less fatiguing since I type almost all day. Having the durock silencer has been really great. They soften the bottom out quite a bit. I'm wondering if that's what you guys experience a lot of bottoming out with the stock lekker switches?

[bronze agate]

@fleet bloom @limber sorrel This link may be helpful #archived_the_lekker_switch message

No idea what the gram force they are though, but they are heavy enough to support cerakey keycaps

[limber sorrel]

Nice, good find!

now that's a mod I'd never thought of lol

[limber sorrel]

What's the difference between a gasket and an o-ring to silence the keys as was recommended to me earlier? I'm guessing the o-rings are much thicker and also limit travel (which I was interested in) but I'm curious about how the silencing compares

[molten trail]

I think the main difference is that the durock silencer fit around the side rails. This dampens the bottom out and the rebound.

makes it feel more consistent, and keeps it pretty silent

This video breaks down the switches and gives a good view of how it's structured

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SdzcGALn-8

An o-ring would be on the stem so it would help to silence the bottom out, but wouldn't do anything about the rebound

[fleet bloom]

Awesome, thank you! Good to know 0.6mm OD fits. I was going back and forth between 0.4-0.6mm. I don't really care what the actual gram force is, but it's hopefully a good frame of reference to pick which springs to buy

[desert root]

Has anyone tried to spray paint the wooting case white or etc?

[fleet bloom]

I may just buy some from Amazon to get them quick, then if there's a set I like I can bulk buy from aliexpress

[limber sorrel]

Ah, I see. I don't suppose there's a place on oher switches to mount such things...

[dim bone]

yeah, there's an image floating around of someone who has done it

[molten trail]

Yeah I think they have a custom rails on that stem. That's why I was curious about how @gray warren had modded them to work.

I hope he wasn't sitting there filing away at the stem rails 😱

[limber sorrel]

AH, yeah, I would also be curious about how to do something like that to lekker switches

[dim bone]

found it

[desert root]

That look nice. Did you do thatm

[dim bone]

nah, @ember reef did

[desert root]

@ember reef what spray paint you uses? Thanks

[cobalt aurora]

What colour tofus do you have left?

[solid junco]

https://sentraq.com/products/60-aluminum-acrylic-sandwich-case

any idea if this could be compatible?

[worn surge]

Woof that is gorgeous

[regal hound]

@solid junco It wont work without modification

Its a 2 piece case and the top plate is part of the case so it would need to replace the plate of the 60HE but it doesnt have the holes required to screw it to the 60HE PCB

[elfin jungle]

Im just curious, what exactly can be modded on the 60 HE? I’m new to modding 😄
Im also looking for a base, any recommendations?

[fresh jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igy_n3f7VeI

Here's a quick intro of some things.

[elfin jungle]

Thank you 🙏

[empty sun]

i wouldnt personally be able to contribute since i only have the case that the keeb came with, but would it be possible to have people check typing angle and the height of the key rows in various cases? i feel like that would be helpful for osu players (or at the very least i would appreciate it )

[deep pier]

Just ask @regal hound he basically has most of the good compatible cases

[regal hound]

All you need to figure it out for yourself is the case typing angle and the keycap profile.

I do have a majority of the cases, but I'm not planning to assemble them and put different profile keycaps on them and break out the measuring tape haha. If you want to know the typing angle I can help with that

[empty sun]

i feel like some cases add height themselves, no?

so wouldnt there be slightly more to it than just that?

and yeah no worries it was more of an "as its convenient for people"-type request

[regal hound]

They do have different heights and different feet could add more but generally speaking start at figuring out if you want low profile or high profile, then narrow down your typing angle

[muted birch]

Is the top housing on the Lekker switch the same as cherry profile? I was thinking about swapping mine out

[fresh jackal]

Cherry... profile? that's keycaps.

At any rate Gateron makes the switches, so I doubt it.

[nocturne bluff]

is there any diffrence at all when you install the switch north or south facing?

[fresh jackal]

Losing some LED brightness, yes.

There is usually no need to do south facing.

[solid junco]

Appreciate the info brother, what would you personally recommend for a white case compatible with 60he?

(That can be ordered)

[regal hound]

About the only thing left that's in-stock today would be something like this https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803246405682.html?

[deep pier]

the non-RE version is also pretty nice

[regal hound]

Non RE is out of stock in white

[deep pier]

oh, thats bad, didnt check, sry

[regal hound]

Everybody keeps asking for white cases but Ive sold most of what I had so Im running dry also. Think I might have 2 white Klippe and 1 Tofu, but not sure if I'm going to sell them yet.

[solid junco]

Ty man

[fresh jackal]

Y'all need to grab some sandpaper, primer and some paint cans 😄

[nocturne bluff]

are most people buyign these for the Wooting? LOL all these 60% selling out lately

[regal hound]

I think its a combination of people buying them for wooting and most of them are discontinued. So combined inventory just dries up. I got lucky and bought out some new old stock from someone but event that's drying up.

Plus with the US announcing a 200% tariff on Russian aluminum starting march 10th, I expect prices might even get higher. Its just rough in general

[nocturne bluff]

why would the tariff affect china ?

are they going to audit all the aluminum from manufacturers?

[fresh jackal]

You still have to actually export the goods.

[nocturne bluff]

The tariffs are for imported raw aluminum to America

[regal hound]

Ahh, I thought it was for all aluminum from Russia, didnt realize it was US only. Thats not going to do much haha

[desert root]

was it matte white or semi gloss white? I was thinking to buy this

[nocturne bluff]

is there any sanding/wet sanding/polishing

I'm lazy

The white looks sick

I bought a tofu but might as well play with the stock case

[void dust]

Wet sanding by hand if anything

if youre gonna sand plastic its better to wet sand it

then paint a light coat and a 2nd coat

then a clear finish coat on top so it seals

thats how i would do it

[gusty tiger]

Anyone have their keycaps o-ring'd? opinions?

Also do you guys think it would be possible to adhesive one of these to the side of a case for the "Take Control" strap??

[limber sorrel]

@ Kryptikos somehow did

[gusty tiger]

wym somehow lmaoo @limber sorrel

[trail drum]

Hey wooting mod fam! I thought I would share this. I initially built my 60he in a tofu (I’ll try and upload I recording if there is interest) but just went to an Fjell. Going to make some more mods and I’ll make another sound test.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1748130470

[limber sorrel]

Oh, I think I was thinking of a different kind of o-ring which is maybe actually referred to as a gasket

[gusty tiger]

This video is only available to subscribers. Sub now to watch and support Ramrod089.

i feel betrayed

[trail drum]

Oooops

Um let me figure out how to not make it like that

[trail drum]

Sorry about that! Should be good now

[regal hound]

The white looks clean. Love the Fjell, definitely a step up from the Tofu60 but of course it's twice the price.

[gusty tiger]

it worked ! 🙂

[trail drum]

I’m a professional streamer now hahaha

[trail drum]

Agreed. Also the biggest jump was definitely lubing the switches. I wasn’t a huge fan of the burger mount sound on the tofu but am curious if I’ll like it on the Fjell.

[regal hound]

The biggest advantage of the Mekanisk cases is now you can gummy o-ring mount your board and not tray mount at all. That's how I'm currently mounting mine and love it.

I'm using a little oversized o-rings and it friction fits perfectly. If you're curious, these are the ones I'm using right now but do have some different ones coming just to have fun with - https://parallel.limited/products/o-ring

All tray mounts will suffer from having some muted/dead sound from the mounting points. Burger mount helps but doesn't eliminate it. Oh and yes, lubing makes a huge difference.

[trail drum]

Oh nice! I was actually bummed that I gave away my extra orings from my bak 60 but I have some for the portal so I’ll try it! I’ll need to get foam that’s smaller too. My foam gets compressed by the case a bit now. It was made for the tofu so that prob why, though I haven’t actually compared plate measurements etc.

[gusty tiger]

polyfil it

[trail drum]

Did you just remove the brass standoffs then?

[gusty tiger]

-tirade

[regal hound]

Yes, just unscrew them but honestly, with how big the USB cutout is on the Fjell, my friction fit doesn't even get low enough to touch the standoffs unless I really push it down.

So even with it being pushed down to the standoffs, the USB port still lines up.

Yeah, try polyfill lol. That's all I use now in most of my heavier cases.

[trail drum]

Oh nice :)! Cool it’ll try it tomorrow

[lavish anvil]

Does it matter what kind of painters tape i use for the tape mod all the youtubers ive seen has used blue painters tape

[fresh jackal]

The blue tape is just less sticky is all.

Tape modding doesn't do anything in the stock case.

[solid junco]

@regal hound sorry for bothering you bro, just one more question, would you happen to know any sandwich mount cases compatible with 60he, in any color?

don't have to be in stock right now, but pre-order or whatever

[last coral]

@regal hound What firmness would you recommend for gummy o-ring mount? I saw the Parallel shop link you shared has 30A, 35A, and 40A. Thanks man!

[regal hound]

@solid junco To my knowledge there are none because most sandwich cases that support the poker/gh60 PCB's use some sort of mounting method that requires a custom made plate or a way to attach the stock case plate to the wooting PCB, which means drilling holes.

@last coral I've tried both the 30A and 40A and there is little difference because the ring is slightly oversized and you're really just friction fitting the PCB in. The metal plate of the wooting is so stiff that regardless of how soft the o-ring is, you're not going to get much flex.

@solid junco I'm working on having a plate made for a sandwich case that's gasket mounted, but I'm having a new top plate made. I'm not the only one, I think a few others are as well.

[minor wave]

anyone tried dropping the 60HE in a frog mini?

[deep pier]

@patent cargo did @minor wave

[solid junco]

gotcha

[regal hound]

@minor wave I've also got a Frog Mini but haven't got the new plate yet. It can be done though, just need a new plate and some standoffs. If you search the channel you'll find the cad files you need to print a new plate.

[slim pond]

Sp if i wanna change the cable for the wooting are there any specifications the new cable needs to have besides USB C to USB A?

[fresh jackal]

Good brand, don't deal with the bottom of the barrel no name ones. And keep it under 6ft/1.8m to ensure full support without needing to worry about reducing LED brightness.

Also C to C works as well.

[slim pond]

Hmm any good brands out there that i should look for?

I usually like anker products, idk if that works 🤣🤣

And what size cable comes with the wooting?

[fresh jackal]

Anker is solid.

Our cable is what I mentioned above.

[minor wave]

roight lemme look up what Nix did then

OH looks nice and the USB cut-out it's just at the right spot

time to order a case then

[slim pond]

Ahh alright sounds good, thanks!

Also another question, anyone know if GMK has white keycaps?

[minor wave]

BoW yes

[patent cargo]

BoW, Bleached, Minimal

[tawdry ivy]

BoW (black on white) is every maker practically, gmk has like 3-4 types, epbt, drop, pbtfans

[minor wave]

oh Nix

[tawdry ivy]

all of them do very similar looking keycaps, you mostly want to just pick by font and keycap material there at that stage

[minor wave]

any mods that u done to the frog mini except getting a plate matching the Wooting PCB?

[tawdry ivy]

oh and I guess bleach white vs creamy white too - that's preference

[slim pond]

Hmm alright and are these sold out in alot of places im assuming?

[minor wave]

DROP

[tawdry ivy]

well gmk is going to be sold out unless you find leftovers somewhere, but drop and pbtfans both will have stock of bow constantly

epbt is similar to gmk in that you may/may not find stock depending on design/how recent the set you want

secondary other language keycap legends are also popular for bow so that's even more options

[slim pond]

Hmm i see oh boy lol

Alot to look up

[tawdry ivy]

i think first decide do you want creamy or bleach white

[slim pond]

Bleach white

Ex

Ez

[tawdry ivy]

then you have less options right away because creamy is the more common one

gmk bleach is that white white for abs material keycaps

[slim pond]

Hmm alroght

Drop sells those alot?

[minor wave]

Froge mini ordered

[tawdry ivy]

unlikely

[minor wave]

now I need the plate file

[slim pond]

Hmm i see

How do DCX keycaps compare?

[tawdry ivy]

epbt hangul bow is bleach, but i don't know if you want korean sub letters

[minor wave]

https://drop.com/buy/artifact-bloom-series-keycap-set-black-on-white

[tawdry ivy]

dcx are just as good imo but debatable

but they are cream white i think

[minor wave]

alternately just get the KBDFans doubleshot pbt ones

[slim pond]

Def not korean ones lol

[tawdry ivy]

bleach white is a lot less produced

[slim pond]

Hm i saw a YT vid, white looked pretty white to me lol

[tawdry ivy]

well yeah they're all white, it's just the shade of white

[slim pond]

I see on camera looked pretty white white so i liked them haha

https://youtu.be/7qAVPhI9siA

[tawdry ivy]

video can be hard to tell because any filter will make one white look whiter

[slim pond]

Def like the R1 better, left side

[tawdry ivy]

then you're looking for the ws2 white

i'm not sure if drop lists color code for their keycaps anywhere

i mean if you like the video one then just grab drop dcx since that's exactly what they use

[patent cargo]

currently playing around with sound mods to make the switches not sound muted

[minor wave]

I don't mind it sounding muted whatsoever

what plate are u running?

[patent cargo]

currently on POM, but I'm gonna have Carbon Fiber made this month

[minor wave]

huh... as POM is soft, does it not affect the switches?

[patent cargo]

muted and thin*

not with the standoffs in place

[minor wave]

ah good point

[patent cargo]

keeps the distance constant even when flexing

[minor wave]

nice, I just want the more premium feel of the alu, and the weight

[patent cargo]

currently trying a weird way of doing the tape mod

on top of the pcb instead of behind it

it seems like it wouldn't be any different from regular tape mod, but it allows for case acoustics to affect the sound and I'm liking it over regular tape mod

[minor wave]

got a sound test file by any chance?

[patent cargo]

not with this exact config, not yet

I got this though

no sound mods and no foam

[minor wave]

decent, a bit on the thin side but meh

[patent cargo]

I can't stand how thin it sounds lol

[regal hound]

If anyone wants to see some of the white keycap colors side by side I've got a few I can show. I do have GMK bleached and epbt kuro/shiro

The bleached have an almost blue tint to them. This was taken in natural light (sun coming through a window)

[tawdry ivy]

Yeah they’re so white they get a tint from surrounding light

[regal hound]

The tray they are in is white so that gives you an idea.

[gusty tiger]

someone just posted this, these look super super white

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1037724997948538970/1079070086385647768/IMG_1221.png

[regal hound]

@minor wave good luck finding just the case for the Frog. I have one in Purple and was wanting another color so I reached out to them and this was the response.

[gusty tiger]

Also, opinions???

[minor wave]

uhm... I already bought it?

[regal hound]

Oh someone sells just the case??

Link please!

[minor wave]

uhm... Geon's website mate

[regal hound]

Wtf

[minor wave]

O.o

[slim pond]

Ewww das nasty lmao

[minor wave]

I got the winkey A-stock Dark green frog mini

[regal hound]

Ohh you ordered the barbone kit, so you get the plate and the other goodies. I just wanted the case since I have the other items

[minor wave]

AH yes no I ordered all the kit

[slim pond]

Ooo those are the wooting caps, least i think so, i actually already ordered those 😁

[regal hound]

Ok, now I feel better haha

[minor wave]

and some extra tadpoles and feet

I just need to work out the plate

[regal hound]

The purple looks good but I was going to order the green too. Lmk what you think when you get it.

[minor wave]

u got a plate file?

[regal hound]

I have the file yes, just waiting on the plate to be made. A friend is 3d printing it for me so I can make sure it's 100% before I pay for an expensive one.

[minor wave]

ah yes good point

[patent cargo]

idk how it'll work with 3d printing, but I had to drill the holes for the standoffs on the plate I got

[regal hound]

The 3d printed can countersink so that's an advantage. Then when I pay for a brass plate it'll have to be milled instead of laser cut or yeah you have to drill your own countersinks.

[patent cargo]

ngl

the sound of tape over the pcb/under the switches sounds great

sounds like a true top mount sound

[regal hound]

Also, a semi-secret side project I'm working on is bracket mounting in a Raindrop60. I'm working to take the 60HE plate file and add the tabs from the Raindrop60 plate file. Here is the file if anyone is interested.

[patent cargo]

this is still my favorite sounding config on the 60HE

With the Poseidon 60 gasket mount with plate foam

[regal hound]

Give me a sec and I'll try recording my current configuration with the gummy mounted solid brass Klippe

[patent cargo]

Gonna try it with the under switch tape mod

[slim pond]

So dofference between straight and coiled cables...

[gusty tiger]

Looks I think lol

Anyone know if PBT caps can vary heavily in feel in different sets?

[fresh jackal]

Length

[patent cargo]

what would be the ideal overall length of the cable to keep Tachyon working properly?

[patent cargo]

here you go

[minor wave]

sounds ok

sound is a preference based thing anyway

[patent cargo]

yeah

I like this config better than the previous one cuz of my preference for louder builds

(shameless MX black/Alu plate enjoyer)

can't wait to get a Carbon Fiber plate for this thing

[regal hound]

This should help for all the DM's I'm getting about the gummy o-ring friction fit mounting of the Wooting 60HE. This is in the Klippe T SE solid brass case https://youtu.be/TotSEWmSxoQ and with the Baldr60. https://youtu.be/FGWzdHXELXo - @eager pasture - O-ring used is this one - https://parallel.limited/products/o-ring - mini sound test included.

[eager pasture]

Great video and instruction. Definitely more secure than I had envisioned.

[regal hound]

I couldnt shake it out if I wanted. It requires some solid pulling and tugging

[patent cargo]

I tried this when I first got the thing and it's pretty solid tbh

I just wish it was possible to be done without plate foam

the fit isn't secure enough with the gummy o ring I have on hand (without plate foam)

what ID do you think would work?

[regal hound]

I want to keep the case foam in there personally but you could also put some double sided sticky silicone feet in the corners between the PCB and plate as link additional standoffs.

[patent cargo]

ohhh great idea

[regal hound]

As for ID Im not sure. I do have 2 size medium and 2 size small Graveshift o-rings that should arrive by Monday that I wanted to test with. They supposedly make the best gummy o-rings - https://graveshift.com/products/graveshift-m-o-rings

[patent cargo]

Oh I got these oo rings off of Keebcats

I got the 30a one

lemme double check what size

[regal hound]

Ive also got 2 o-rings from the merro60 PCB group buy coming as well. Not sure what that ETA is but again, the o-ring in my video was for a 65% board so it's oversized, which might be the key.

[patent cargo]

yeah mine is only sized for 60% which I used on my Blade 60

[regal hound]

Probably had screw-in stabs on that PCB too right?

[patent cargo]

TX Clip in actually

fits perfectly

oh, I got size m

I'll be giving it another go next time I think of it lol

[slim pond]

Better company, Mechcables or cable mod?

[regal hound]

Ive never used either. Whats your budget? I prefer to stay with handmade over machine made

[slim pond]

Any

[regal hound]

I mean if you want one of the best handmade out there, this guy does amazing work - https://www.voxelmods.com/

For less money but also solid cables these guys are good - https://wiredinstore.com/ and https://dogemods.com/

[slim pond]

Look to be same company

Last 2

[regal hound]

Really? I didnt think dogemods did cerakoting

[gusty tiger]

they all have different products, cant imagine thats the same company at all

[patent cargo]

Cablemod ez

[slim pond]

Might be dif but very much so have very similar websites. Makes me believe theyre very close

[regal hound]

@slim pond they have cerakote connectors, they dont offer cerakote services and the address are in different states. They might have both used some sort of website builder like shopify or something thats the same

[tight siren]

ah did the plate work out okay?

[regal hound]

@tight siren he said it worked but he had to countersink the holes by hand since the plate was laser cut. I'm getting it 3d printed first so I can verify it works 100%

[tight siren]

hopefully my design works lol, had an alu plate cut and is being sent to me rn, but if stabs fit okay then im not too worried

main concern was stab tolerance but that seems ok

[regal hound]

@tight siren that's a great question (sent you a DM) and maybe @patent cargo can provide better info on the fit.

[void dust]

what config is this

[regal hound]

The batch of new old stock KBDfans cases arrived today. 5x Tofu60 and 3x of the 5 degree. Man that red and cyan look so sweet.

[olive lake]

Those white cases though 👀

[umbral field]

Any pictures of Blade 60, Fjell, or Klippe T cases? Please and thank you.

[regal hound]

I dont have a Blade60 but I do have a few Klippe T and Fjell cases, but Ive had those for a while, these just came today.

[finite meteor]

wanted to get a purple tofu60 originally but didn't hit buy, then it was gone the next day

[olive lake]

same here with a white blade

But I'm looking at this ZT60 here and I just might go for it'

90$ on aliexpress

[regal hound]

I like some of the bigger bezel keyboards. That one looks pretty good for squared edges and I like the Mojo60 for rounded edges. They arent as popular as the thin edge cases but I do think they look good when done right.

[olive lake]

This one has some thicc bezels which I think would look nice

[regal hound]

I love the artisan thick edge cases like the mason60 or quarry

Or the thick bezel daddy birch

[finite meteor]

kek

I still have this thing in a closet somewhere back in my childhood home

[regal hound]

Hah, Im actually old enough to have one when it was new and would spend hours playing flight sim off a tape drive lol

[limber sorrel]

I hadn't realized until the last couple days how far keyboard modding goes 😵‍💫

There are definitely points where I would just give up and find a way to program something to simulate the sound or feel

[carmine timber]

$200 for the patina cables. holy

I'm a scrub lmfao

I thought the cablemod lemu cables were expensive

🫠

[gusty tiger]

the green tofu

nomnomno

[slim pond]

Anyone have a good replacement for DCX keycaps but a PBT version not ABS?

[gusty tiger]

You've tried cablemod???

[olive lake]

good lord

[tawdry ivy]

Pbtfans does a black on white set

[patent cargo]

yessir, just had to drill out my own standoff holes

[minor wave]

froge plate?

[wheat vault]

It looks clean & a few colours to choose form too https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005180862278.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1.2e9313caY4uOLP&algo_pvid=9ac5c9a1-783a-4865-931a-03f9622f4066&algo_exp_id=9ac5c9a1-783a-4865-931a-03f9622f4066-0&pdp_ext_f={"sku_id"%3A"12000031996525729"}&pdp_npi=3%40dis!EUR!138.44!110.75!!!!!%4021227d8316774224117427757d06e0!12000031996525729!sea!FI!2186764477&curPageLogUid=RJmcdsaMzZw9

[slim pond]

Anyone change the stabilizers and if so do they make a difference?

[fresh jackal]

Yes, to durocks. And no.

[regal hound]

Like He said. No changes needed, stock are great, just give them a little extra lube.

[scarlet notch]

Does anyone has a photo of a Maze 64 with the wooting? I just checked but the maze 64 has 5 keycaps beside the spacebar on the right and the wooting just the regular 4 so does that mean that ill have a gap or no?

[regal hound]

You won't be using the Maze64 PCB so it wouldn't matter.

It's just a different layout but the dimensions are the same

60% PCB's can have different layouts

[scarlet notch]

Oh I didn't know that thank you!, I just know how to click heads :p

[deep pier]

is it possible (and wise) to film the switches @regal hound ?

[regal hound]

I'm not a Lekker switch pro. Is it possible? Yes it is but there aren't any films that fit the Lekkers so it takes significant time/work to fit and trim them. I've not heard anyone say it was beneficial because there is already very little housing wobble with the switches and filming won't do a whole lot for the stem wobble.

[deep pier]

thanks for the detailed explanation, i will skip filming

i assume that there is no standard way to eliminate stem wobble because of the lekker characteristics?

[regal hound]

Not sure honestly but again I don't know a ton about the switches. Check the Lekker switch channel as someone there will likely know for sure.

[regal hound]

@patent cargo fresh off the 3d printer. Ill be able to test once the standoff kit arrives from China

[void dust]

fr4 or pom?

[tight siren]

@minor wave

[slim pond]

Any have any good mods for the keyboard? Got a couple in mind but wanna see some other opinions

[tawdry ivy]

What do you mean?

Besides changing the case and keycaps there’s not really much you can do beyond maybe a burger mount and basic lube

[slim pond]

Hmm alright, im looking into cables as well but thats not really for the keyboard as much, aesthetic more so

[gusty tiger]

@slim pond https://wiredinstore.com/ def seem like the best cables to me

[loud belfry]

They look nice for sure. But they don't make sense from a USB cable design perspective. Not sure if it matters for a keyboard, though.

[gusty tiger]

im confused what you mean by that

[loud belfry]

There's an official spec on how USB cables should be constructed. Those do not meet them.

[slim pond]

Anyone use the Glorious Coiled Cables?

[silk moss]

Yes, no issues either

[slim pond]

Alr 💪

[silk moss]

There is a LOT of housing wobble btw

especially if you've opened them all to lube them

[regal hound]

I haven't experienced that, at least not enough to say it's a lot of wobble, but what's a lot to you might be different to me.

[eager pasture]

I used 0.125mm films from TX on the WASD keys, as a test. The 0.125mm version is currently the thinnest film available. The more commonly found films are 0.15mm. I struggled to find any difference between lubed and lubed with films.

[native horizon]

60HE brass plate options?

[lavish anvil]

is the tofu v2 compatible with the 60he?

[nocturne bluff]

Nope. Gasket mount and middle usb cut out

[lavish anvil]

so should i go for the old tofu or should i look for another case if so then do u know any good ones worth getting?

[nocturne bluff]

Your money. I'd get the posidon from aliexpress, similar and cheaper. Probably not as good as the Tofu (I believe some people here have both, you can ask them).

I have the tofu60 v1.. pretty nice

[lavish anvil]

kk i might go for the tofu since i dont really have a budget for it xD

[deep pier]

If you are on a budget, the psd60 is the way to go since the tofu was discontinued and will only go up in price

[nocturne bluff]

Agreed. I said that to him that the posidon is cheaper... but he said he's going for the Tofu cause he doesn't have a budget (I'm assuming He doesn't care about money)

[strange torrent]

Imagine a wooting in this tho

Real photo, not render

[unkempt wave]

really clean

[regal hound]

The PSD60 is pretty close, just has the branding on it which will either drive you crazy or you will never notice it since it's on the back.

Oh man, I feel like that's the opposite of clean haha

[unkempt wave]

xd i understand

[regal hound]

@lavish anvil if you have no budget get a Klippe T or Fjell from Mekanisk. If you don't mind having a new plate made and doing some tweaking you can also look at Frog Mini

[unkempt wave]

but there is a van gogh vibe that i like

[regal hound]

I can see that

[carmine timber]

yay

new keycaps are nice

now just waiting on cablemod cable and will purchase some artisan keycaps in the future c:

@regal hound you probably recognize the set lol

[regal hound]

Yup NK Elderberry lol

Had some on my Frog Mini actually and pulled them off because I didn't feel like it matched right. Might try them on this purple Tofu60 with Zealios V2's though.

[carmine timber]

ooo should post when u do

[regal hound]

I do like how well that Mojo60 fits on that keebmat though

[carmine timber]

fits perfectly. I was surprised

[tawdry ivy]

i kind of second tirade. If you really have no budget you should get a klippe t or fjell even - makes zero sense to pay more for a tofu when you can get a klippe t for the same price

tofu isn't expensive because it's better, it's actually one of the most budget end cases, but the discontinued production is making it more pricy - klippe t is just a better tofu

[regal hound]

The only advantage of the Tofu and the 5 degree is color choice. There are some really sweet color ways out there like the Cyan and Red. There was also a rose gold Tofu and an orange 5 degree that looked sick. Mekanisk is struggling to keep up stock so there is a 2-3 month wait still but if you're in no hurry and looking to spend $150 get a Klippe over a Tofu. If youre impatient and want something today and want to spend $100-$140 for Tofu or 5 degree then send me a DM.

[late stream]

Can confirm psd60 re (rounded edges) version works flawlessly, too

[limber sorrel]

Intriguing keycaps

[late stream]

XDA ISO blank https://de.aliexpress.com/item/32855247714.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.11.79fe5c5fDqDWur&gatewayAdapt=glo2deu - "61 Black full" is the color option

[patent cargo]

I just got an idea

Can anyone that does 3d printing try and make films for the Lekker switches?

[regal hound]

I cant say why, but I feel like that's a bad idea. If I was a betting man I'd say Wooting is already working on a 75% version, an upgraded switch with tighter tolerances and/or lekker compatible films and coiled cables. Hell, maybe even case upgrade choices and desk pads.

[patent cargo]

def gonna snag those updated Lekkers first chance

[limber sorrel]

hmmm
maybe worth waiting to buy, then? Any info on how close (possible?) upgraded switches are to market?

[patent cargo]

Q2 this year would be the most optimistic

Q4 beyond might be more reasonable

but who knows

all speculation at this point

[limber sorrel]

I see

I'll see how much I like the keyboard which should be arriving today, how much I can do with it, and how much I may want the fancier features of a Wooting sooner rather than later

[regal anvil]

Box lekkers like the og analog design perhabs

[patent cargo]

I agree

box stem would remedy the biggest issue

[regal anvil]

And heavier spring options for tactile enjoyers

Pen spring swap

[regal hound]

Im just spouting bullshit conspiracy theories but a box lekker makes sense, so does a larger size 60HE to capture those who cant make the move to 60% for good reason.

[patent cargo]

60% best keyboard size (def not biased)

[sly flower]

Anyone by chance have a Klippe T Ultrahot with GMK Lasers?

[misty rampart]

He just like me fr fr. (FB60 case coming soon)

[limber sorrel]

SK650 arrived... damn this thing feels weird

The keycaps are fine, it's the switches and the transition from a laptop keyboard which are throwing me for a loop

It's supposed to be cherry mx low profile reds, but I expected them to be a lot louder and more clicky than they are. I like that they're not but there are a couple other things I would want to adjust. Just about the only sound from them is a slight... rasp? Would the solution to that be lubing the switches?

[slim pond]

Shoutout to @regal hound for selling me this case! Wanted a White Tofu60 so bad and obvi theyre sold out and stuff so veryyy glad he sold me one 🙂 came perfect too 🤤

More on this build in the future 😁

[regal hound]

Awesome man glad it arrived safely! Looking forward to the final product.

[hollow ruin]

Hey everyone !! Can someone send me a pic of the wooting plate pleas3??

[hollow ruin]

We need plate options !!

[regal hound]

@hollow ruin you can download the CAD files for the plate if that's what you need

[grave path]

Thanks for sharing this, did you keep the original plate foam inbetween the plate/pcb intact when you added the o-ring for the friction mount?

[finite meteor]

hmmmm my dog is shedding, maybe I should use her fur as foam

[regal hound]

@grave path yes I left the foam in place

[limber sorrel]

Bumping this since I don't really know where else to ask, how much can lubing switches reduce dry sliding noises in keys, particularly cherry mx low profile reds? Never modded a keyboard or even really taken one apart

[tight siren]

@ those who are using the frog plate i made, theres an issue with the spacebar stabilizer and ill send an updated version when i have the time

[elfin hill]

Got my tofu60 custom coated in cerakote armor black

[wanton forum]

I think I saw a German company doing this or something? Or did you do yourself?

[elfin hill]

Yeah it was from keebstuff

[regal hound]

@tight siren what's the issue? I haven't even had time to try the one I printed out.

[tight siren]

the wire cutout for the spacebar was too small and the housing doesnt clip in. will be cutting a small tab in the plate so it can sit

just a spacebar issue though, ill doublecheck and see what happened

[waxen oar]

Any reccomends what other stabaliser lube i can buy?

[regal hound]

I just use dielectric grease - Permatex 81150 Dielectric Tune-Up Grease.33 oz Tube https://a.co/d/4wkZmrq

[waxen oar]

any diff to one on wooting shop, just cant find it anywhere else

[regal hound]

They are different but both get the job done. I wouldn't mix lube though so if you're going to change from the factory stuff to something else then be sure to clean them first

[waxen oar]

oh AND factory is the ones they use yae

[regal hound]

Probably depends on the thickness of your o-rings. I used M2*5 without issue before moving to a gasket mount but they worked fine.

[tight siren]

if you mean what to put on the wire, xht bdz works well for me

[unreal mauve]

Any website that have in stock the tofu60 or the blade 60 ?

[tawdry ivy]

both of those are super old and out of production - it's going to be tricky

there are many better alternatives with similar typing angles though

[unreal mauve]

Oh can u give me some references ?

[tawdry ivy]

there's a list pinned in this channel

similar angles would be psd60 at 6 degrees, klippe t and fjell both 8 degrees (tofu and blade are both 7 degrees)

[unreal mauve]

I think i will go for Klippe T

[hazy sentinel]

Anybody try wood cases with the wooting?

[fresh jackal]

With the 60HE? Yes it's been done 🙂

You usually have to shave off a bit of wood to make the PCB fit though.

[fresh jackal]

https://youtu.be/2GJEyTl2aNY

Sander shows off his wooden case in this video of sound comparisons between case material types.

[finite meteor]

wooden case + akita fur as casefoam, wonder if it's gonna burn my house down

[hazy sentinel]

I was going to ask about the warping issues that apparently happen

I'll probably just get a bamboo case from the looks of it

looks to be more resist to that but has a rougher look

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1185916625/gh60annegk61-1-walnut-woodkeyboard-case?variation0=2528040155

[unreal mauve]

Any video with the Klippe T case ?

[queen ember]

thinking to mod my wooting

looking at the freebird60 case rn and wondering if there is anything else i should consider preparing

i was thinking to get durocks stabs but people seems to say it doesn’t make a difference

also wondering if anyone tried switch pads

[loud belfry]

I have Durock stabs and switch pads. Didn't notice a difference with either. Did notice a difference with lubing the switches.

[fresh jackal]

I have durocks as well. No difference I can tell,.

[regal anvil]

Oh btw

Will the noxary t60 fit?

[minor wave]

guys, who has the file for the frog x HE60 plate? if any

[regal hound]

@minor wave that would be @tight siren

[minor wave]

ty for that information, now I just need Kyle to pop out

[regal hound]

You can search for the file but he posted last night that he needed to make a change to it. I haven't tried it yet so I'm not sure. It's printed though.

I'm waiting on the standoffs to arrive

[slim pond]

Anyone in here using BoW keycaps?

[tawdry ivy]

I’m sure a lot of other folks are too, it’s one of the most common ‘clean’ colors to go

[minor wave]

so there were some issues I observed in the plate file

biggest one for me was LACK OF ISO SUPPORT!!!

that aside, there seemed not to be any stand-off holes

[slim pond]

Ooo looks great man, def wouldnt use the black accented keys tho

[minor wave]

also is there any reason for the cut-outs in the file or is it just for flex?

[tawdry ivy]

a lot of sets come with black and white accents for people to pick

like if you get the pbtfans one it has black and white options included iirc

[slim pond]

Yea i noticed that, thats probably the one id get, think its the best BoW set to my knowledge

Def wouldnt use em tho but nice options

[regal hound]

@minor wave no ISO support could be an issue for you. There were standoff holes though (they were the countersunk holes)

[minor wave]

O.o

[regal hound]

Are you looking at the right file?

[minor wave]

looking at the .dxf one

AH I see what u mean, the stp one has the holes

[minor wave]

right so, the cutouts between keys are just flex cutouts?

[vagrant kernel]

yes, meme cuts

[round dove]

How is the usb port, not misaligned?

[minor wave]

with a bit of tinkering, meme cuts gone, and few other bits around the plate fixed

[late stream]

I think it aligns pretty well. I seperated the stock foam and only used the bigger , unangled part of it. I added some paper tissue to thicken the dampening a little. The screw near the spacebar was bending the board slightly so I didn't fasten it all the way.

[round dove]

Looks good to me

[tight siren]

some cuts in the plates are for sound and to prevent certain keys from sounding too harsh, but they are taken straight from the geon plate provided

[round dove]

I have mine in tofu 60

[tight siren]

what bits around the plate did you fix? some of the weird geometries are a necessity

[round dove]

The usb port and uneven spacing is kinda annoying

[minor wave]

yeah some of the weird geometry xD

[tight siren]

yeah without it it just might not fit in the case

[minor wave]

like the cutout above the tab switch

I watched some videos and unless there's material on the top of the keyboard... the bottom leaves a gap there

we shall see I guess. I won't cut anything until I have the case in hand

[tight siren]

the only thing that needs to be patched up is the cutout for the spacebar wire

[minor wave]

yeah fixed that as well

[tight siren]

i think there is, but ill have to check. i remember looking at the plate and how it fit and it all seems pretty specific

[minor wave]

yeah as said, I won't get one cut until I have the case

[tight siren]

ill try to update it asap

[minor wave]

I really want a white plate but we shall see

[sand thistle]

Why does the UK have to make things so difficult I considered buying the Klippe T for my 60HE seeing as the Tofu is discontinued.. but you need to spend at least $199 USD before shipping costs. On top of that you’re then charged ~£46 import duties, which is absurd for a case

[sly flower]

You can try mechmarket, I just bought a Klippe T from there

[waxen oar]

Yo, anyone got a specific profile for gta5? as ive heard analogue messes ity up

[fresh jackal]

I believe you need two profiles. One for on foot, on in vehicles due to how movement changes.

Should be some on #🌈│wootabase_profiles 's website

[waxen oar]

Sorry im confused i got an anologue one but how do i switch between them

[round dove]

Manually select the profile with Fn and whatever key you have profile 2 on

[waxen oar]

ty

Ok so im trying to make when i fully press w. It does shift + w so i sprint

any advice how to do it?

[fresh jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M6sovkYlRY

[waxen oar]

thats the oine ty

[tired idol]

does anyone know if the wooting 60 fits in the Q4 QMK 60% case?

[regal hound]

If you do some modding it might. The Q4 isnt a tray mount case. You'd need to modify the Q4 plate to attach to the wooting PCB and then pray the USB lines up because the cutout is exact

[daring latch]

Guys im currently using these keycaps, which facings should i use, north or south. Thanks

[atomic willow]

Hi 👋 does anyone know if the Wooting 60he fits in the Anode 60 case from the KBDFans? I don't see it on the Notion Case compatibility page.

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=7162

[opaque basin]

Not sure I understand your question? The letters should be facing you

[daring latch]

switch facing i mean

not the keycaps

[opaque basin]

Oh, if I remember correctly they should be facing north. So the plastic bridge is above the led

[daring latch]

cool, thank you

[regal hound]

Yes that case should work fine

[hazy sentinel]

This is sealed which is great so no moisture and warping issues

[urban sand]

has anyone tried a silicone pour in the Wooting Case?

[woeful pawn]

do we have any news on differents plates? the white one isnt for me at all

[regal hound]

@woeful pawn Wooting published the CAD files, you can have one made in any material you want

[woeful pawn]

oh cool, who makes some?

[regal hound]

Quite a few companies out there who do milling, cnc, laser cutting from the files you provide. In the US I've used sendcutsend.com before

[woeful pawn]

any idea where i can find a list or do you know somewhere in canada?

[regal hound]

Nope, you'll have to do some googling if a new plate is that important to you.

[woeful pawn]

looks like it, yeah white plates arent for me at all, last time i had one was on a ducky one 2 mini, been using fr4, cf and black pom since

[tight siren]

@regal hound @minor wave updated plate file, should fix the spacebar measurement issue, changed the spacebar cutout so it wasnt too thin, but afraid the spacebar may sound a little harsh now. let me know if the spacebar stab fits better

[tight siren]

oh to address everything here, there are standoff holes, just not in the dxf file, i had them in the step file
no iso support because idk a layout that allows for both ansi and iso with platemount stabs and i am using ansi, if someone else wants to design a plate around iso go ahead
cutoffs in plate are usually for sound most of the time, i feel like if people want a soft typing experience they use pcb cuts. imo plate cuts just help with the sound of certain keys

[fresh jackal]

Don't pull and rotate the switches unless you're having problems with keycaps grinding against each other.

[round dove]

Has anyone repainted the switch plate?

[fresh jackal]

I like my RGB so I haven't, no. But it's pretty straightforward.

Bit of sanding, a coat of primer and some paint. And then reapplying as needed when it chips off as you replace switches.

[round dove]

If only theres a way to just paint over without removing the switch

So it wont mess with the thickness and wont scratch

[fresh jackal]

You'd have switches literally stuck to the plate because of the paint. And you'd still chip the paint when you actually needed to swap a switch.

[round dove]

Hmm

Vinyl wrap?

[fresh jackal]

You're still poking into the vinyl with each switch when pushing them in, so it will affect it. Can't say for sure if it'll just compress or start getting scuffed though.

[round dove]

Might try it

If it doesnt work I'll just rip it off

But yea prob cut around the switches

So it wont mess with the height

[molten cypress]

Finished my build! PSD60 case is great, quality / weight etc. Just beware to the keys on the extremities of the keyb, you'll maybe need some work in order to not block them when pressing the keys

As you can see, right control key is blocked when pressed, but just a little bit of work on the keycap and it's working like a charm!

[tawdry ivy]

probably some minor warping on the keycap causing that right? I always have to do an hour of hot water + key bending to fix most older mold pbt keycaps

even the good quality ones seem to have it these days, except the really new mold ones by pbtfans

[regal hound]

I think my standoff kit arrives on Mon so I'll try the old plate design first and then print out one based on the new.

[deep pier]

That did not occure on my psd, sounds like a keycap problem

[molten cypress]

I've tried 3 different sets of keycaps so I don't think so, except if they all have the same problem 😭

It's really minor though, pressing the key a lot of time will do the work in about 3 minutes

It's just good to know

[regal hound]

Maybe the board is slightly shifted down and right

Loosen the screws a bit and shift the board just a hair and retighten

[safe heron]

Hi everyone. There aren't any aftermarket plates compatible with the Wooting 60HE right?

[regal hound]

No there aren't

[brittle halo]

Will the board fit in this case? https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004493952470.html

[deep pier]

I highly doubt it because of the extra standoffs

[thorn acorn]

hey thinking of getting this case https://keebsforall.com/products/gb-freebird60-case-only, would this have the same stability issue as the one shown in this vid https://youtu.be/igy_n3f7VeI?t=610 since it seems to have similar standoff screws in design

wanted the tofu 1.0 but doesn't seem like it's in stock anywhere anymore

or would this be the best alternative to the tofu 1.0 https://mekanisk.com/products/klippe-t-keyboard-case-only?variant=39479936811182

[waxen oar]

Is there a reason why my dks doesn't work consistently when switching through profiles on gta, well not always consistently. even on wootility the binding doesnt show always unless i directly click the profile (posted yesterdcay bbut no reply). TBF Its working today so no consitency xD

[round dove]

Does the usb port have alignment issue with the case?

[round dove]

Have you set the profile on specific key? Or you just using profile toggle key?
You need to use the specific key instead of toggle, and set the same key on two profile.

You can set it on dif key on the two profile but thats just confusing

I set mine with dif rgb effect so i know the profile switched over

[waxen oar]

ok that is confusIng

i dO fn+ p for my analogue and fn + [ for the running profile wIth dKs

[round dove]

Yea i didnt get it when i first got it

I kept pressing toggle and it would only switch once

Wont switch it back

[round dove]

Yea so you need to set that on both profile

So my typing profile is on O and gaming on P

Removed toggle cos its confusing

[molten cypress]

yup without any problem even with foam

[round dove]

Damn so tofu is just not as good as aliexpress ones

Prob shouldve just gone with the PSD60 instead

[tawdry ivy]

I mean tofu is about same

Both cheap cases

[round dove]

Mines really misaligned cos the custom cable has a fat head

[tawdry ivy]

Tofu just got a weird reputation as the case to get because YouTubers used it

[round dove]

The port need to be in the center

[tawdry ivy]

But reality is people used it because it was cheap and good enough

If anything the klippe t would be the real one to get if you wanted high angle and quality

[round dove]

In nz its not really worth it lol

Klippe t is like 130usd +80 shipping

[tawdry ivy]

Yeah that’s kind of the unfortunate deal with all cases that aren’t stocked locally

[round dove]

Psd is like 100nzd and its in stock

[tawdry ivy]

Freebird60 was in stock a bit from first batch but those sold out so now only place for those is keebs site

[round dove]

Ordered psd60re yesterday

[tawdry ivy]

Psd60 is def the best budget option just due to their cheap shipping everywhere

That Ali express shipping price hard to beat

Unless you have local keyboard brand like in the states

[round dove]

Yep

[molten cypress]

for real the quality is really nice, it does the job, material has a nice feel, everything is aligned, paintjob is ok, shipping is fast, price range low. For now it's really good, will see if the paint last or not

so yeah, for sure one of the best option for an aluminium case swap for the wooting

[round dove]

Im using black case so no worries for paint

[molten cypress]

nice, perfect then

[round dove]

But yea thats good

Apart from the obnoxious logo

Did yours have uneven paint job at logo

I saw someones had a bad paint job on logo

[molten cypress]

yeah but, except if you're looking at the back of your keyb there's no problem

don't see any problem

but the paint is maybe the weakest point of the case I think

feel like it's really cheap

[hazy sentinel]

The frog is so prettyyyy

[molten cypress]

but the rest is insane so np

[drowsy haven]

hey guys, any case recommendations for the 60HE, i'm getting my order soon and im thinking about putting it in a nice aluminium case

[sly flower]

Fjell or Klippe T

Or Tofu, depends what you mean with nice

[tawdry ivy]

Angle is a question too - do you have a preferred typing angle

[drowsy haven]

Honestly, it's mostly for gaming, I haven't experimented with many things. Just looking for any recommendations on cases that are around the 100 euro mark. I think I prefer something more angular.

[sly flower]

Klippe T is 8 degrees

but you cant really get that in eu, unless you live in Norway or go on something like mechmarket

Some people seem to like the psd60 from aliexpress, thats cheap

[drowsy haven]

I really like the Tofu60, but I can't seem to find it in stock

[sly flower]

It's not in stock anywhere

[drowsy haven]

This colorway is insane, do you know the name?

[sly flower]

Best bet is mechmarket

[nocturne bluff]

Depending where you live.. and if you don't mind 2nd hand.. tons on the market. I know tons of people around me (who bought the tofu60 a few years ago and on to better keyboards)

[drowsy haven]

I'm from NL, idk what the best place to buy 2nd hand

[nocturne bluff]

Buying new will be hard. KBDfans had some a week or two ago. White

[round dove]

Psd60 or re from aliexpress in that range

Tofu have usb port alignment issue, might as well go with psd

[nocturne bluff]

Klippe T is probably the best rn instock

[sly flower]

Not for eu people

[round dove]

Yea they gonna pay so much for import tax too

[sly flower]

And you need to spend 199$ or else your order gets cancelled

So if you want Klippe T, you go to mechmarket

[round dove]

Psd60 dont have that color but better than waiting for stock

[tawdry ivy]

The secret is it’s never in stock

You have to order klippe t and wait usually even if it’s in stock

[sly flower]

Im talking about tofu60

[tawdry ivy]

oh you replied to wrong one then

you said klippe t is out of stock for eu people

it's in stock on their website

https://mekanisk.com/products/klippe-t-keyboard-case-only

[sly flower]

Nope.

[sly flower]

I didnt say its not in stock. I said its not the best for EU

[tawdry ivy]

why not?

[sly flower]

Because you need to spend 199$ or your order gets cancelled. And on top of that you get charged with import tax

And shipping is not cheap

So it's gonna be hella expensive

[tawdry ivy]

huh

when did they have $199 minimum?

[sly flower]

Its for eu people

[tawdry ivy]

that's odd

anyhow - you don't order klippe t for budget anyway, it's for build quality usually, like mini fjell

budget would be more psd60

[sly flower]

From their website

[tawdry ivy]

guess most add in a carry case then and lube etc

[sly flower]

And then 50$ish for taxes and 35$ for shipping

[tawdry ivy]

yeah those are kind of normal honestly in kb space

i paid i think $50 shipping for my freebird

cases shipped anywhere non local is always pricy

[sly flower]

Sure, but not the taxes

[tawdry ivy]

taxes is normal too

[sly flower]

No

Not for us people.

[tawdry ivy]

what you mean? I'm in asia i paid taxes

on both wooting and my case

a lot of countries have import tax over x limit

[sly flower]

Sure, Im talking about us people

[tawdry ivy]

oh, he's not US

[sly flower]

I know.

But nevermind. You don't understand what I mean

[tawdry ivy]

i mean I do, but a lot of the costs you're explaining are very normal in kb space

[sly flower]

Yes, for people outside of the US

[tawdry ivy]

it's rare you order everything locally for custom keyboards, especially for the group buys

even US people

[sly flower]

Sure....

[tawdry ivy]

anyhow - @drowsy haven options really depend on how much you want to spend and what angle you want

cheapest is psd60 from aliexpress, it's same angle as default wooting iirc

[drowsy haven]

thanks guys, I think I'll try to find a Tofu on aftermarket

[round dove]

No tax if under 1000nzd for us

But still expensive shipping and conversion

[tawdry ivy]

yeah aus/nz is nice for import tax at least

one of the highest import tax limits

[regal hound]

@drowsy haven that colorway on the Tofu was Rose Gold and was only available for a single run. The odds of finding it are ridiculously slim/rare

I think the Tofu60 quality is great TBH. Is it as good as a Klippe/Fjell? No, the finishing on the Mekanisk stuff is top notch. However for the money the Tofu & 5 Degree are great cases. Much heavier and solid than the Freebird case

Also, if youre in the US, I do have a few new in box Tofu's and 5 degree available but they arent cheaper than if you were buying them new before they were discontinued. You can DM me if you want one.

[carmine timber]

fwiw I have mine in a Mojo60 and I'm pleased with it

still on sale

[regal hound]

+1 for the Mojo60, love that case (especially the 5 degree angle)

[hazy sentinel]

Shoot, might just go for a mojo60

Idk if I want to diy some wood or go for the mojo

[regal hound]

If you like the looks/shape of the Mojo (i.e. dont mind rounded corners and larger bezels), I think its a really underrated case. Its really heavy and solid and again I love the angle. I have one, so does dz and a few more like @eager pasture and we all think they are great cases.

[hazy sentinel]

Thoughts on resin cases?

Heard it's similar to wood so I might go with that instead

[hazy sentinel]

Yea you way prettier colors imo but how does it sound though?

[eager pasture]

Resin cases are just a different look. If it matches your aesthetic and your budget then I cannot see anything negative.

[hazy sentinel]

So similar to plastic then?

[eager pasture]

Functionally there is nothing different from aluminum. I think aluminum cases look more serious

[eager pasture]

No, much denser and heavier. At least in the one I tested.

[hazy sentinel]

I'm talking about how the keyboard sounds not so much the weight or feel

[round dove]

Resin is a lot heavier than plastic

Sounds deeper than plastic

[hazy sentinel]

Unless you mean heavier sound?

[eager pasture]

I also think the sound profile is pretty decent. Less ping in my ears

The factory Wooting 60 HE plastic case actually sounds deeper than the resin case I have. That is simply the nature of the Lekker switches.

With conventional aka non-Lekker switches, the resin case does generally sound deeper

[hazy sentinel]

Ok now I'm really torn between the alumium and resin mojo

[eager pasture]

Sorry, but only you can make the ultimate decision of which you choose.

[hazy sentinel]

Yea

Just want a comparsions of the sounds

So I can make my decision

[eager pasture]

I think sound recordings are so dependent on multiple factors and are not accurate. The venue you record it, the type of microphone, and so many other variables can change the perceived sound.

[hazy sentinel]

I mean personally how to they sound to you

Not really looking for records so much as opinions

[eager pasture]

I personally like a heavy aluminum case. But the resin does sound decent compared to cheaper aluminum cases.

[hazy sentinel]

I'm leaning towards resin because I heard it sounded deeper but in cases like this maybe its better to go for an aluminum case

[eager pasture]

I suppose that's why I have a number of 60 percent cases. I prefer to test them all for myself and decide that way. Of course, this is difficult for many folks to do.

[hazy sentinel]

I think I'm going with aluminum as that seems to be the safest choice

[eager pasture]

Good luck in your journey to find your perfect case

[regal hound]

As he said, it's a very very personal opinion and there is so much that can change a sound. For example, I don't usually put foam in my aluminum cases, I prefer the sound of polyfill. Also, I think if you really want a deeper/thocky sound you should stick to an OEM or larger profile keycap. I think you can make almost any case sound good if you're willing to put in the time and effort. In the end though, what sounds great to me might sound like shit to you.

[hazy sentinel]

Understandable just want a general idea of the sounds between the two and which would give a thocker sound

[hazy sentinel]

Looking for kat keycaps but trying to find is a such a pain lol

[woeful pawn]

oh btw, does the files include information about the standoffs?

[regal hound]

I think everything you want to know is in that link

[hazy sentinel]

Oh KBD fans is selling a set for 40 bucks kinda basic but at this point kinda out of options, kono store was so shit to work with last time

[carmine timber]

@regal hound Talking to Voxel rn for a custom cable. Think I can get away with a coil with his quality of cables or will I run into issues

[regal hound]

@hazy sentinel my personal preference in order of sound for the lekker switches & steel plate is probably different than most. Believe it or not my favorite sounding case is the acrylic tofu case. It has a deep sound profile that I really enjoy and when I sold mine I regretted it. I now have another but don't see myself selling it. Next up would be aluminum but I prefer the thicker heavier cases like the Fjell or the Mojo60, followed by 5 KBDFans 5 degree then the Klippe/Tofu60. The Freebird is bottom of my list because it's thinner and tinnier sounding. All that being said, I have 2 60HE's and they are currently sitting a glass case (Baldr60) and a solid brass case (Klippe Special Edition).

[carmine timber]

He said if I do run into issues, I can send it back and he'll make a straight cable but I'm hesitant lol

also the mojo60 is SOLID. It does not move lol

Heavy case for sure

Once everything is all in there, it's stuck in that spot. You will need to consciously shift it to move it

[regal hound]

@carmine timber I'm not a cable expert but if they use 24ga cable and keep it under 6ft, you likely will be ok, especially for a handmade cable. It's the machine made, cheaper 28ga cables that seem to struggle so it's easier for Wooting to just tell you to avoid using coiled cables.

[carmine timber]

looks like it's gonna be 6" coil and a 5 ft end cable

according to Voxel, his cables are made to USB 2.0 spec and do fine even with higher power draw boards

so he thinks it'll be ok

I will be the guinea pig

[regal hound]

He should be able to tell you if it's 24ga or 28ga wire and if he doesn't say it's 28ga

[hazy sentinel]

https://paramountkeeb.com/products/paramount-keeb-60-aluminium-case thoughts on this?

[tawdry ivy]

that's just rebranded aliexpress board isn't it

[hazy sentinel]

Is it? somebody rec'd when I was asking around

[tawdry ivy]

That doesn’t necessarily make it bad, although there’s a lot of other options too

Like you could get the psd60 from aliexpress directly

[regal hound]

I don't like the Baka60. It was even thinner and lighter then the Freebird. I don't remember exactly the weight but if it's really .65lbs that's like 300grams. Compared to a Klippe or Tofo at 1000grams

[hazy sentinel]

Kay I'll just go with the mojo60 then

[carmine timber]

you will be pleased

and you can always cerakote later on if you want more color options

when I was inquiring around cerakoting ranged from $100-150

[hazy sentinel]

The e White looks so dead to me

I'm tempted to just get a resin case so I don't look completely basic

[round dove]

NZ$ 126.21 | GH60 High Profile Anodized Aluminum CNC Case Plate PCB For 60% GH60 Mini Mechanical Keyboard
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKWTx8W

Funny cos aliexpress one will prob sound better

Comes with bottom plate too

[hazy sentinel]

Alright I'll just get a mojo60 then

[hazy sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GJEyTl2aNY And that goes out the window, I'm really digging the wood sound so I'm just get a custom wood case looks like

[round dove]

Just buy them all

Ez

[hazy sentinel]

Ahahahha I'd just buy a frog mini at that point

[edgy delta]

old comment, but did you end up getting this one?

[hazy sentinel]

Yea I settled for the wood keyboard

[grave bloom]

Hi, I'm a new member. I just buy wooting 60he but I wonder this keycaps that will be compatible? https://angrymiao.myshopify.com/products/keycapset-glacier

[fresh jackal]

Yes.

[grave bloom]

thank you ❤️

[sand thistle]

Randomfrankp has a video on YouTube with these exact keycaps to give you an idea of what they'll look like: https://youtu.be/dUZxW2VzyIk?t=60

[sonic tusk]

What is a good case if tofu 60 is sold out

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[sonic tusk]

I'm just asking what you recommend

[fresh jackal]

Can't help you there - I went with a B Box plastic case, not alu 😄

(also listed)

[sonic tusk]

Oh ok

[patent cargo]

Poseidon 60 would be the closest to an og Tofu

[sonic tusk]

Ty

[sonic tusk]

Got it ty

[sand thistle]

Question for those with the PSD60, did you purchase additional foam or did you find the stock foam to be compatible, and sufficient enough?

[deep pier]

I did use the stock foam and i am happy with it

[slim pond]

If i get a coiled cable does that limit it so i cant use the tacheon mode? (1000hz polling)

[fresh jackal]

It might require you to reduce the LED brightness, yes.

[slim pond]

A member here might be able to help you with that, he has all sorts of cases, send him a PM and see if hes got something youd like, his tag is @regal hound

[slim pond]

Hmm i see

[regal hound]

@slim pond if you're getting a new cable and you want coiled try and get something handmade that uses 24ga shielded wires instead of 28ga, quality connectors and keep the length under 6ft.

Also, buy from a vendor who will let you exchange for a straight cable if the coiled doesn't work well.

[slim pond]

Hmm alright ill look into it more, not tryna drop over 100 on a cable 😅

[nocturne bluff]

Why not just use the stock cable?

[slim pond]

Building an all white

[sonic tusk]

Nice what case you going with?

[slim pond]

Tofu60

Got it from @regal hound since they discontinued em lol got lucky

[regal hound]

My supply is almost dried up though! Glad they are going to people in this community though

[loud belfry]

Ultraforest Klippe T. Now I need to make a matching USB cable.

[slim pond]

Oh god lol i feel like your version of running low is like 15 cases left 🤣

[regal hound]

lol, Its actually like 9 but yes running low

[slim pond]

🤣🤣

Ridiculous

[nocturne bluff]

Tirade should get a role here lol.. he's actually helping wooting members

Good shit

[slim pond]

Not the pudding keycaps 😤 i hate puddings lmao idk why

[loud belfry]

I've been thinking about going back to the stock wooting ones.

I like the center pudding look, though.

[slim pond]

You like the wooting ones better?

[loud belfry]

I don't really have a preference. Those are the Hyper X puddings and they feel slightly slippery/slimy compared to the Wooting caps. They're also a bit crisper and higher pitch of a sound.

If you're asking why I'm thinking about going back, it's just for aesthetic reasons.

[slim pond]

Hmm i see, i def dont like slippery caps, like a slightly rough texture. Why i dropped any ABS keycaps i was thinking of, now im thinking of going with the PBT Fans BoW set, double shot PBT

Slight texture too

They gotta WoB set too

[regal hound]

@loud belfry hard to tell the shade of green but maybe the IFK Vanir would look good - https://thekey.company/products/infinikey-vanir-keycaps

[loud belfry]

Oooo.

The Ultraforest is a bit darker than green Mogami cables if that tells you anything.

[regal hound]

PBT and under $100 for the base kit

That doesnt help, Ive never seen it haha

[loud belfry]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2711/4238/products/Heafd5cd518264c6c8437c85f1f040b4bQ.jpg?v=1597060244

Those are intriguing.

[hollow ruin]

We need to convince one of these plate making websites to run a gb for fr4 plate for the wooting

I was talking to the guy from hype keyboards he’s down if the demand is there

And it defenitly is

[regal hound]

Find out what his MOQ is and then make a post. Id be interested if it helps

[nocturne bluff]

why FR4? I've used poly/FR4/alu/brass... Aluminum is my fav sounding

and people overrate typing "feel". I can switch out on most boards and people wouldn't feel the differenc3e

[hollow ruin]

I definitely will

[hollow ruin]

I just love fr4 I’ve built so many combinations and all my boards end up either fr4 or carbon fiber

And hypekeybaords does allot of fr4 on his website

[hollow ruin]

The moq is 5 plates

[misty rampart]

Very clean. I like the pudding caps on the inner keys.

[void dust]

@regal hound with the hookup 🙏🏻 now just need the board itself

[regal hound]

Awesome man, glad it arrived safe and sound!!

[eager pasture]

I'm down for an FR4 plate GB

[hollow ruin]

I will get all the details and post his Google form

[gusty tiger]

BISH U HAD A ROSE GOLD

[regal hound]

They exist, seen one sell in the last 4 weeks. They are just rare

[regal hound]

Oh I misread what you said. No that was pink haha

[celest sequoia]

Just got the 2 brass plates that I ordered from Laserboost (one regular and one with flex cuts to test). I'll let you all know how it goes for me when the standoffs get here. This is going in a Blade60. I already have plans to grab a Geonworks Frog Mini since some of you all have made it look so dope (I know that will require another custom plate)

[nocturne bluff]

How much did that cost

So nice

[flat phoenix]

Are lekker switches able to filmed? And if I do the pe foam mod will it affect the sensors?

[regal hound]

They can be filmed but doubtful it's worth it and since there are no films that fit them by default you'll spend hours trimming them to make it work.

[wanton forum]

Anyone have a good dolce/dark grey set of shine through PBT keycaps they recommend?

[celest sequoia]

98.38€ (56.77€ + 41.61€ shipping to the US) or ~$105 USD total for both

[plain dagger]

Hi, I am searching for the lowest (low profile ) case and any mod to reduce the height of the 60HE - also wider keycaps .... any pointers ? Thanks in advance ...

[regal hound]

Search AliExpress for low profile aluminum case and that's about it

[deep pier]

That is compatible as far as i know (didnt test it) and its pretty low profile

[loud belfry]

I have that exact case.

[plain dagger]

uh oh ...would you mind measuring the front height to top of the first keycap ? just to check if its worth the hassle ...

Stock left edge to Control Keycap is about 39 mm

[loud belfry]

I'm not using that case anymore but I can measure the height of the case for you. The plate is basically flush with the case so I think that can give you what you need to know.

[regal anvil]

Fjellting60 with oblivion 2.0 git keycaps with switches & zealpc plate mount lubed stabs with 205g0

No plate & case foam & just 2 layers of tape underneath

Typing test r1

[surreal swan]

@fresh jackal Can you add https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804307637718.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.4.5103f19cEVEu0M&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US
as "Not Compatible" to the list. With a note "Requires cutting away plastic + tight fit".

An unfortunate entry into the list ; { Broke my board. Verification of testing this case can be found in https://discord.com/channels/167181566978555904/1081427925104070716

[fresh jackal]

I'd need you to circle the parts that need modification in like paint or something.

[surreal swan]

Sure, give me a minute

Hard to see in the image but the places we screw into don't have standoffs in this image. Under each standoff there's still a bit of a bump when removed. To be safe you would need to sand/cut all the unused screw in points to be flat or they can poke at the PCB when you apply pressure .

For contrast here are the "Good" points that don't need sanding

For the record - I tried this case after recommendation from someone on reddit. So other people people will probably also destroy their board if it's not on the list. Still my fault - just saying

[flat phoenix]

https://cannonkeys.com/products/brutal60?variant=39813127733359 would this be compatible with the wooting?

[void dust]

That board has no standoffs for the wooting pcb to screw into

im assuming the usbc port is on the left side of the case so assuming you have the case on hand you need to see how well it lines up if so

[flat phoenix]

yeah its on the left side

its just i didnt know if the pcb would be able to be mounted into it or not

[void dust]

Basically no. It would take a bit of tinkering to make it work and for the price youre paying its not worth it

[flat phoenix]

since every other case I want is out of stock

[void dust]

frog mini which is around the same price would be easier tbh

hit up @regal hound they may have something youre looking for assuming theyre okay with it :))

[flat phoenix]

alright maybe in the future

[regal hound]

Im actually starting to clear out my inventory very quickly, I dont expect to have many cases left after this week.

[flat phoenix]

any maze64 cases in black?

[regal hound]

Negative

[ivory hatch]

Successfully case swapped into a Brazen Mason60 (Forged Series). swapped in GMK WoB caps as well.

[regal hound]

Love those cases

[regal hound]

I want the jawbreaker one

[tight siren]

the standoffs work for the frog mini plate! with the new updated plate to fix the spacebar stab, everything should work fine

i will say that the switch fitting into the plate was a bit tight, but everything did go in, and it may just be a tolerance with the laser cutting service i ordered from

[regal hound]

Awesome my standoffs arrive this week and I can test out the first plate design and see if I need to print another or if the spacebar works ok as is.

[gusty tiger]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/keyboard-part/products/kbdfans-handmade-custom-mechanical-keyboard-usb-c-cable-collection?variant=40155046936715

Anyone tried one of these?

[patent cargo]

Imma try and learn to edit step files. Thinking of filling in the decorative cuts around the Frog step file and add some leaf spring cuts near the tadpole mounting holes

This design could help add some bounce even with stiffer materials on either tadpoles or the plate itself

[regal hound]

@patent cargo too much flex around those switches and you're going to have ghosting issues for sure. I've got a Salvun Salvation and I've been avoiding putting the Wooting in it due to flex concerns but I'll test it out this week and see.

[tight siren]

frog mini sound test (pe foam 😔 so muted otherwise + tape)

[tight siren]

i can do that quickly for you, just send me what you want the leaf spring cuts to look like

[tight siren]

looks like it has a left side usb port. it would work but you would need to make your own plate and get it cut or print

[flat phoenix]

its not compatible

sadly

it doesnt have standoffs for the pcb

[tight siren]

i just said if you get a custom plate for it

it will

[flat phoenix]

how so?

[tight siren]

its top mount so the only thing you would have to do is edit it to fit plate mount stabs and have countersunk holes for pcb to hold onto plate

if you want i can do it for you

i already did it for the frog mini thats been released here

[flat phoenix]

its fine

I'll just choose another case like the klippe T

[tight siren]

well if anyone else wants it, wooting compatible plate for brutal60

[deep pier]

Take a look at my convo here, had a question regarding a cable that looks similar: #archived_keebs_talk message

[abstract pelican]

Yoyoyoyo

U got anymore bro

I beg

I’ve been looking around everywhere for one

XD

[patent cargo]

Haven't got any ghosting issues at all on a POM plate. Been maining this setup since I got it so I would know if there was any issue

[patent cargo]

Aight, imma dm you when I get home 😄

[daring crown]

Dang. It’s so hard to find a tofu 60. Let alone black. If the klippe didn’t have the branding cutout on the back, I might have bought it by now.

There really isn’t an aluminum 60% case out there without branding that isn’t low profile. Tofu was all we had

[patent cargo]

KBDfans kinda fucked 60HE users

[daring crown]

I know you probably get this a lot, but if you still have supply, please let me know.

I’ll post some pics of my ultra clean setup or something 😆 it’s just missing the tofu/wooting keeb

[tawdry ivy]

Honestly you can’t even see the branding on the back of those cases unless you specifically unplug your keyboard and put it on display

I can’t remember the last time I even looked at the top back of my keyboard

[native horizon]

🙂

[patent cargo]

I got this for reference (yes paint is the best I can do, im sorry lol). I'm just looking for the cuts around the tadpole mounts, while the rest of the holes (that aren't for switches or stabs) around the plate are filled in

thought it would be interesting with a stiffer plate material like CF

maybe compensate a little bit of that added stiffness without making it flex enough that the usb cutout might get stressed

happens on 50a tadpoles for me

[tight siren]

a bit scuffed but close enough

[deep pier]

finished lubing the switches and stabs in a psd60 modded he60. Sounds better but the space bar is still shaky and it moves quiet a lot. Is there any way to make it less wobbly? And it rattles if its pressed only very lightly

(Spring lubing kiolled nearly all pinging, that was a relief)

[regal hound]

@deep pier is the clip in stab housing rattling in the PCB or the stab wire rattling?

[deep pier]

the Keycap is moving back and forth

like the stabs and switch give tomuch room for movement

[regal hound]

You can always add a little thicker lube like XHT-BDZ on the stem walls to reduce the wobble, just don't make it mushy.

[tight siren]

who do we ping/contact to add a board to the compatibility list?

[wanton forum]

Post it here!

[tight siren]

ive posted custom plates that have made some 60s compatible with the wooting60, such as the frog mini from geonworks and the brutal60 from cannonkeys, but i was wondering if the folks at wooting would be okay with uploading those boards and the plates (and a link to the required standoffs) to the list

[regal hound]

Probably not since it's a semi-official list hosted by them and they don't want people to complain who can't read or who get a bad plate made etc etc. They probably don't want to encourage changing to a different plate (they don't discourage it either)

[round dove]

I have one trying to sell, except im in nz

[clever tinsel]

What colour?

[round dove]

Black

[clever tinsel]

Hmm how much?

Also u should post on the nz marketplace in snag keys if ur trying to sell 🙂

[round dove]

I have it with ducky mecha mini pcb for 200nzd

Its in fb marketplace lol

[round dove]

If i put it on there people will prob try to buy just the case

Then I will have a ducky mecha without case

[clever tinsel]

ah haha i also just want the case, yea prob better on fb first then lol

[round dove]

The pcb is basically free anyway

Costed around the same to get it to nz

[void dust]

i mean

to be fair

if someone is desperate enough

you can probably just sell the case for around that much lol

[round dove]

Yea

Then get a aliexpress case to put that in

[void dust]

mhm

[round dove]

Yea maybe I should

Price is not too high right?

Have it up now

[daring crown]

I’m in Japan, so I’m not sure how that works. Probably a face to face marketplace right?

Wife and I actually were gonna try to visit nz this year but we don’t have plans and will go to America first.

[round dove]

Yea would prefer local sale

Could send it but would cost a lot

[daring crown]

You still da mvp. Maybe I’ll check in summer when I’m ready to travel somewhere and base my travel plans on where I can get a tofu60

By that time they are either gonna be back in stock or literally non-existent

[round dove]

I think they discontinued it completely, I got it around end of last year, didnt see anymore buy notifications since

[daring crown]

They did, but I sent a complaint to support so if enough people do it maybe they’ll do another batch 😅

It’s either that or wooting makes a centered USB version of their board

[round dove]

Still waiting for that tkl version

[upper mist]

If you'd be so kind as to info dump the cases/plates with links and the necessary modifications, we'd be happy to add it to the list

[elfin hill]

I got an email around Feb with stock, sold out pretty quickly think it was only white available

[vagrant kernel]

tofu60 was never a great quality anyway, so I guess it being forever out of stock is actually a blessing

we all should just treat klippe and psd as the standard cheap tray mount now

[deep pier]

Klippe t is around 200€, soooo, not cheap at all for EU members

Psd for 70€ is the only cheap case left after the tofu

[vagrant kernel]

but psd is like 70 bucks on ali, right?

yeah

[deep pier]

And sadly ITS branded rather ugly.

[vagrant kernel]

so with psd you get the tofu experience, and with klippe you get the actual quality

[deep pier]

its*

[vagrant kernel]

oh right, forgot about that huge POSEIDON written on the back lmao

[deep pier]

No Idea who thought that that would be a good idea

Poseidon + trident

[vagrant kernel]

well I'd live with the trident alone

[deep pier]

Person A: " lets make a cheap Tofu Clone!"
Person B: "Yeah, but lets hit it up with a 90s like branding. Something bold and unforgettable. Something that screams: fuck this makes this case half as good lookig as without it."

(i still bought it since its the only cheap case for EU tho....)

[elfin hill]

Just spend it up and get the fjell

[patent cargo]

You're the 🐐

[minor wave]

Ze froge iz 'ere o.o

[vagrant kernel]

I wish there was a navy frog mini

I'd order it immediately

[regal hound]

I actually think the Tofu was/is a good quality case "for the money". Did it have the same fit and finish as the Klippe, no, but it was less expensive and easier to get at the time.

@vagrant kernel the other thing to consider is where the case finishing was done. The Tofu's were finished in China, the Klippe's are not. It's more expensive to manufacturer/finish but the material itself is almost the same.

[nocturne bluff]

I find it funny people talk like this. Tofu was the best case for the money .. and it wasn't close 4 years ago. It was the best sounding/quality for the price point

[regal hound]

I don't think he means it was shit really, I think he is pointing out the inherent disadvantages of tray mounting from a sound and feel perspective. The Tofu60 wasnt the originator by any means but it made quality aluminum cases in almost any color that worked with the millions of DZ60/Poker PCB's out there.

[vagrant kernel]

finishing in China doesn't mean it's gonna be worse, most keyboards are made and finished there. it just costs more money to finish something flawlessly, which KBDFans obviously didn't ever consider since their QC sucks a huge D

[regal hound]

Which is why people started cutting out the center posts, experimenting with gummy o-ring, etc etc. The Tofu was easy access and super configurable/modifiable

[minor wave]

do u guys know any UK bound plate service?

one I was betting on is on hold to catch up

[nocturne bluff]

You own a Keycult? What's your best keyboard you own?

[regal hound]

Ok, I was wrong, he is saying the QC was shit, which might be true but hasnt been my personal experience. I do think the finish scratches easier and has more variance in color than something like the Klippe

[nocturne bluff]

You want $1,000 USD quality for $80 bucks? hilarious

[vagrant kernel]

best for money doesn't immediately mean it's great quality. I myself owned Tofu for this exact reason 4 years ago, but I hated it ever since because it was finished terribly. then I came across people having issues with KBDFans quality assurance in general so I'm not really fond of them, but correct me if they made in better in recent times

[nocturne bluff]

Show me a better alu board for $80 bucks. 2019 there were no other options.

[regal hound]

Ive got 7 kbdfans cases in front of me right now all made in 2019 or later and all are finished perfectly.

[nocturne bluff]

I have 1 currently and 1 prior. It's good and that's why it sells

[vagrant kernel]

I want a product without scratches if I pay money for no scratches

[nocturne bluff]

What's your other keyboards you won? just curious

[vagrant kernel]

I'm not saying there were better options, but I'm saying there are better options now. psd60 for example

[fresh jackal]

Me ending up with 5 different monitors until I get one that works and is free of dead pixels.

[regal hound]

Oh you own Gigabyte monitors too? lol

[vagrant kernel]

I have a terribly made monstargear xo v3 which I still can't get rid of because it's awful and I daily drive u80a seq2. not the best, but I like it

[nocturne bluff]

Acer. I own 2 1440p nitros.. worst monitors IMO.