60he community modding

[wary mango]

I guess I can always go custom if I end up looking into it, but I am also super happy with the case I have

[regal hound]

You could still use your wooting in the low profile case, you would just have higher key gap I believe as the switches would sit higher. I've never had low profile switches but I think the PCB side of the switches is the same as normal switches.

[wary mango]

It's tempting, my concern is the plate sticking out and looking a bit garish :I

Thanks for lmk though, I didn't know the board standards were the same

[dense cairn]

Swapped into Acrylic Tofu case, burger mounted, GMK Awaken Neo Tokyo with Rama artisan. Anyone have issues with an artisan not seating at all onto the switch?

[lavish anvil]

Are u an otsu enjoyer? Cause i have a hien that has seen better days and ive been thinking of picking up a new one tho i dont know if i should go for the otsu instead?

[dense cairn]

I am not. I play alot of FPS games (Valorant, MW2019)

I had the Hien before this in Mid as well. The speed feels the same, but the X/Y axis on the Otsu are more equal than the Hien. The Hein, it felt slower moving my mouse up and down, where the Otsu was more or less the same with going left and right

[lavish anvil]

Oh ok would u recommend it for games like overwatch?

[dense cairn]

Depends on your play style/preference. I played early 2019 with the Hien and liked the speed, but as I got into more tac shooters, I prefer something with a little more control and a bit slower

[novel wolf]

Thanks. Btw, what's the process of adding information to the official case compatibility list? I remember in the list it instructed posting here but am not sure who should I talk to.

And got my KBDFans 5° 60% aluminum case in the mail today. Almost perfect fit - you have to align the USB port so the keyboard will not be in the center, but towards the left. Otherwise no modifications or risks to damaging the keyboard.

[hybrid rapids]

It was already in the list, but I added the note.

[thorny ruin]

you can still get your cable in. no need to shift it to the left side. it happens with the Tofu too

[novel wolf]

For me it's a bit harder if the USB port is not centered. My cable that I use on the desktop has a somewhat wider connector housing.

[thorny ruin]

ah okay I have a slim custom cable

gotcha

[mystic blaze]

epbt voo keycaps + maze64 case

[woeful crest]

Hi there, I was wondering if the Cerakey Keycaps would work with the 60HE, especially the spacebare and the force it'd require to make it work optimally (for gaming that is)?

[fresh jackal]

Yes - But according to the community here it's been a mixed bag. I suggest doing a serverwide search for "cerakey" and digging.

[woeful crest]

Got you, thanks 🙂

[sudden rune]

Y’all think it’s possible to make a cad file out of this pdf https://www.keychron.com/pages/q4-keyboard-plate-file

[torn finch]

Another maze64

[wanton forum]

Is the USB centered on this?

where did you get your acrylic btw?

Artisan is sick where from?

[wanton forum]

These are sick what keycaps?

[thorny ruin]

https://ramaworks.store/products/wave-seq2-br

in moon color

[mystic blaze]

no problem with usb c alignment if that's what you are asking

[gentle kernel]

insane

[muted birch]

Taro depato

[sudden rune]

Hi, saw this and was wondering if you ever managed to get it to work

[final python]

Guys I really recommend u to buy the TOFU60 and do mods like:
silicone
swap case to tofu60 black
tape mod
lube switches
burger mount
different keycaps
tape the spacebar

[strange torrent]

What is tape the spacebar

How does that work

[final python]

You flip the spacebar and tape the stems (so no light is shining through cuz it looks disgusting) and u tape the hollow spaces to have a better sound. i did white tape so there is no color change when im doing other color

[strange torrent]

Oooooo

This is how mine looks

All the same mods but no spacebar tape

[final python]

give me a sound test

[strange torrent]

Old sound test. I don’t have good microphone and I’ve tuned my enter key and shift keys a LOT

[final python]

it doesnt look like the same keyboard

[strange torrent]

It’s black ceramic

[final python]

[strange torrent]

They are partially shine through

[final python]

give me a sound test with ur current build

[strange torrent]

Will have to do it later

[final python]

ok

[strange torrent]

Waiting on zip foam to replace the old foam and fill out numberkey row

Then I’ll remove the stabs and add foam between plate and stab

[final python]

@strange torrentjust give me a sound test rn and after u modded it again give me another one

[strange torrent]

@final python I'll make one now. The enter key came loose so it's very pingy due to the hardness of the ceramic keycap

Tape modding I’ve been trying to fix it

Just the enter key ping sound

Holding the phone under my neck lol

Tofu60, Wooting foam, burger mount, lubed switches and stabs, spring swapped spacebar, ceramic keycaps

[final python]

oh damn. if you like it congratz! i personally think its too deep. can u do a vid of ur spacebar only?

cuz u didnt show it at the end

this looks so scuffed 😄

[strange torrent]

it's OMEGA SCUFFED

[final python]

what exactly did u do there

i see bandade

normal tape?

and what

[strange torrent]

Bandage tape over the stems to grip the cap better

works great on switches, not so much on the stabilizers

[final python]

2 tapes no?

holy shit how long did u worked on that

[strange torrent]

It took maybe 6 hours to set up the whole keyboard, but I have been continually adjusting tape here and there when a keycap sounds loose or clacky

I only used 2 tapes on my "1" key. The photo only has 1 piece of tape

This is what they look like

[final python]

@strange torrentand after all this your kb sounds like this

[final python]

?

[strange torrent]

Yes, the numrow sounds very hollow. I will have to replace the foam to fix that

#996573707235491950 message

original sound test with no tape on any stems

[final python]

can u give me a video of your spacebar

[wanton forum]

Hey guys these look like tofu clones with less of an angle? Think it'll work? Seems like it since GH60

https://ymdkey.com/products/gh60-wood-case-with-wrist-60-poker2-faceu-60-gk61-gk64?variant=39480123588669

[fresh jackal]

Be sure to measure twice - Wood cases often need some amount of sanding to make room.

Since the PCB has bottom mounted components, you need a good 2mm or so clearance across the PCB (And be sure there are no standoffs in the case that the PCB doesn't use, or you'll be impaling the PCB)

[wanton forum]

Ah great info, looks possibly too shallow

[fresh jackal]

I know Sander had to... sand his wooden case down a bit.

[wanton forum]

Old comment but where did you get the wood tofu style case from?

[unkempt wave]

hey there did anyone know a site where i can find cool keycaps for the wooting ?

[crimson bolt]

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832698493786.html

[wanton forum]

Thanks these seem to be all the same

[strange torrent]

Sorry super busy at work

[wanton forum]

Is it me or is almost every worthwhile case to swap into OOS everywhere lol

[fresh jackal]

Depends on your preference I suppose.

[wanton forum]

Everything from KBD on the approved list is a 404 - lol, the Wooting effect I guess

I recall the Tofu's etc always being readily available so that is weird to me

Did you ever try this? Just came across it on Amazon

[mystic blaze]

yep - it's good for the money

but I changed to maze64 case

[wanton forum]

Nice I grabbed it just cause of price and Amazon prime, can always use it on some other board later - anything special you have to do it?

[mystic blaze]

needs foam - it's not so heavy

other than that - all good

[wanton forum]

Sweet. I will mess with it a bit thx!

[mystic blaze]

I think as the v2 is coming - they don't produce v1 anymore

[wanton forum]

Makes sense

[mystic blaze]

I guess silicone would be better, didn't try it myself though - but it's a cast metal, not cnc so silicone would fill the gaps better - and not much space either

[naive rose]

Cables are here and seem fine but knowing group buys I won't have a case to test with for at least a few more months unfortunately

[sudden rune]

Ah ok. Prob gonna try it by myself then… do you think there will be any problems with latency or something?

[naive rose]

I doubt it, it's only an extra 20cm. Probably a better question for someone from wooting

Would a 20cm Male-Female USB-C extender effect latency?

[loud belfry]

Cable length won't affect latency.

[naive rose]

Yeah the length should be irrelevant, I'm more worried about having another two male-female interfaces in the way. Still doubt it makes a difference though.

[mystic blaze]

I think - keeping the rgb light brightness below 50% is good solution for lots of inconsistencies
worked well with my coiled cable

[carmine eagle]

is it true that coiled cables affect the performance of the keyboard? I'm thinking of getting one

[mystic blaze]

if the cable length is more than 1.8m - it might not deliver enough juice to the keyboard
and coiled cables when straightened are usually longer than that

but if you make the brightness lower than 50% - it might work with no problem

I didn't notice anything on latency - my problem was random keys pressing once in a while

[carmine eagle]

damn, thx for the info

[fresh jackal]

1.8m*

[mystic blaze]

are you happy now?

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-be-delighted-harry-hadden-paton-martin-charteris-the-crown-enjoy-gif-16124763

[regal hound]

3 sound tests, only change is the case. Mods are o-ring burger mount, durock stabs, lubed switches, replaced case foam and tape mod

[eternal silo]

what's the name of the keycaps

[regal hound]

@eternal silo https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-fbasic

[eternal silo]

aight thanks

[dim bone]

requesting a review of case fit for Kylin 60% Aluminum
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/33048131233.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

[dim bone]

aswell as psd60
https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005001483751496.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.10.21ef1802o3HC9r&gatewayAdapt=glo2vnm

[mystic blaze]

confirmed cases are on the pinned messages

both seems to work but still don't know for sure

https://kprepublic.com/products/anodized-aluminium-3-layers-acclive-angle-case-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-black-siver-grey-colorway-for-gh60-xd60-xd64?variant=12555537121324

and there is this one to - kinda similar to kylin but it has diffuser all around

[drifting helm]

I used by accident stabs greese to lube all of my switches is it a big deal or not

[fresh jackal]

They will be... thicker, less smooth. Stabilizer grease is typically a lot thicker and less "runny/liquid"

If you don't mind the different feel, then I guess no problem. 😄

[drifting helm]

Aight well i kinda like so all good

My dumbass did like half of them before i realised i was using the wrong one 💀then was like might as well finish it

Will it like smooth out a bit with time like lube

[scenic token]

What ceramic keycaps are these?

[final python]

give us a sound test pls xd

[drifting helm]

i will

i think its sounds pretty good maybe take a bit too much greese but i will when i get home

[strange torrent]

Cerakeys

[scenic token]

Thanks. That's what I figured. I'm debating getting them.

[drifting helm]

Soooo

Its trash

Going to clean and relub with krytox

Can i even clean them in water

[wanton forum]

Ultrasonic cleaner seems like the right thing here but I don’t know personally I’ve never cleaned them

I would imagine some alcohol would also have to be used

[tough nova]

Yeeee my wooting is famous 😂

Now all I want is a black tofu 60

[loud belfry]

If you add dish soap it will cut the grease. But you'll need to do some scrubbing.

[drifting helm]

yeah will use toothbross

[patent cargo]

Can I ask someone working at Wooting for the exact height of a standoff on the plate? I'm trying to think of a way to diy standoffs on my build

[sudden rune]

Hi! Saw this and wondering where you got the plate cut from?

[storm sage]

https://cbbplanet.com/products/custom-plates?variant=41050021265585

It required using the kbdfans kit here as well: https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-m2-3-countersunk-flat-head-screw-kit

And I had to use the included screws from the back of the wooting along with M2*4 screws on the plate side. Took a while to seat everything correctly but now rapid trigger works without any issues

[severe hemlock]

Maze 64 with GMK Red Devils x Striker 2

[mystic blaze]

you can maybe dyesub the right portion of spacebar blue 😛

[severe hemlock]

Ooh good idea, too bad I don’t have a spare spacebar in case I mess up 🤣

[empty sun]

thinking it's probably a no since i think their pcb/software is needed for it, but would there be anyway to use the Everest 60 with the 60HE so that i can use their displaypad/macropad with it just stuck on the side?

this is the board and pad if curious
https://mountain.gg/keyboards/everest-60
https://mountain.gg/keypads/macropad/

appreciate the help

[mystic blaze]

you can plug both to your pc - no problem - but if you want 60he effecting the macropad or the otherway around - I don't think it's possible without an API from both side and some good coding if there is an API provided

[wanton forum]

Clean, specs/parts?

[versed egret]

Freebird 60 case (white), GMK Honor Light Keycaps, HLYM quartz stone wrist rests, mechcables jumbo custom cable (works with tachyon mode)

[wanton forum]

Great build, love the wrist rest. crazy the mechcable works?

[sudden rune]

Uh so trying to make a plate for wooting so curious if plate rigidity is really a necessity? I feel like since the pcb is screwed to plate there shouldn’t be too much deviation…

[fresh jackal]

There's a range of tolerance, sure. But the magnetic sensors don't like going too far off spec, or you're going to get weird ghost inputs

[sonic socket]

there'd be a problem using cerakey's ceramic keycaps on the board with 0.1 actuation, right? Due to how heavy they are?

this is me wondering to anyone out there who's used them

[scenic token]

I was kind of curious about that too but I guess it depends on what springs you're using. That being said I don't think I'd be running .1 actuation for anything anyway

[regal hound]

I use .1 for WASD and a few other keys without issue. I did have it on my spacebar too but had to change to about .2 as my thumb would brush the space at times and I need less sensitivity.

[dusky veldt]

My modded wooting

[loud belfry]

What in tarnation am I looking at?

[dusky veldt]

I am getting a new mousepad

That will fit the color scheme better

[loud belfry]

I'm referring to the thumbstick thing.

[dusky veldt]

A keyboard joystick

[mystic blaze]

first glance it seemed like an adult toy

[dusky veldt]

But it is op

[mystic blaze]

seems like a fortnite thing

[wanton forum]

Yeah it did lol

[wanton forum]

Whats specs on all the mods?

[dusky veldt]

50g springs from wooting store

Klippe T ultramarine case

HK Rubber keycaps

Lubed switches with krytox 205g0 and Molykote EM-50L grease for the stabiliser wires

[dusky plaza]

looking to get a lemo cable, what is the max length to have it stay compatible with 60he?

(also if anyone has a suggestion for a cable shop, would appreciate)

[bronze agate]

scuffed monitor lighting:

have a few sound tests for you, react with your favorite! I'm interested to see what you think

steel plate:

aluminum plate:

pom plate:

here is one with the steel plate where i used painters tape before i replaced it with keebtape:

tldr: changing the plate didn't really do that much and is probably entering diminishing returns, but I will be a shill and say that keebtape will deepen the sound and remove hollowness

i did stick with the pom plate though because it has a bit more "marbley" sound. despite it being a softer plate material, I didn't notice any unintended actuations even at 0.1mm actuation distance.

[wanton forum]

Specs?

[eternal silo]

W

thank you for this information

[bronze agate]

kbdfans five degree case, did a silicone resin pour and put foam that came with the case (purchased from someone on mech market, no idea if it comes with foam normally)
the plates were cut from ponoko (I think p3dstore is cheaper if you want a plastic plate), i can send the 2.5mm plate holes dxf file if you need. used "KBDfans M2-3 Countersunk Flat Head Screw KIT" from aliexpress
keycaps are some cherry honey clone from aliexpress
i used keebmat's keebtape on back of pcb, pe switch pads on pcb (idk if the pads really made a difference in sound though)
switches are lubed with 205g0, haven't tuned stabilizers yet but they are mostly fine stock
if i am missing anything else let me know or if you want further explanation

[bronze agate]

just to clarify, the plate cut was 1.6mm i think vs the standard 1.5mm. meaning that it would actually be 0.2mm actuation distance, but I don't think it should make a difference

[wanton forum]

Sick! You went all out

[marble shell]

Anyone try sound deadening for cars? I tried it on my corsair 60% cant wait to try it in the wooting once its here

[sonic socket]

you say "Spring Swapped Spacebar" - did you change the spring to the additional lighter springs from Wooting's store?

[wanton forum]

Dope. What key cap set?

[glacial harbor]

domikey wob SA

[patent cargo]

what do you guys think?

[glacial harbor]

wow! sounds awesome!

[sudden rune]

Uh looking at the cad file for wooting60 plate and wondering if there’s any specific purpose of the lack of plate between the g and h key

[fresh jackal]

The hole? It's to allow for certain third party cases that have a mounting standoff there.

[eager pasture]

Very very nice. What is your entire build if I might ask?

[ocean talon]

Thanks man! For the case I got the blade 60, and the keycaps are gmk red samurai, the coiled cable which I got from drop is supposed to go with the caps

Also looking to change to a brass plate and durock stabilisers

[regal hound]

I swapped to durock stabs and it wasn't a difference, in fact, even the stock stab bars were straighter than than the durock ones so I ended using the stock bars with the durock housing. I'm pretty sure @fresh jackal also swapped his stabs to durock and didn't notice a difference.

@marble shell are you using the stock case?

[heady flicker]

Has anyone found a silicone case for Wooting 60HE?

[regal hound]

@glacial harbor sounds great! Whats the build and mods?

[glacial harbor]

thanks! blade60, tape mod (5 layers), sa keycaps, lubed

[regal hound]

Dont know if its the mic or that I have some different mods (burger mount and different case foam) but mine is a little more clacky than thocky in this aluminum case. When its in the acrylic case its def more thocky

The SA keycaps might make a solid difference in sound also

[analog gyro]

hows the typing angle on tofu without wrist rest?

[bronze agate]

made this quick mockup in a few minutes in paint:

not spending 400 dollars for this but if anyone is interested lmao

mason60 case/wristrest and cherry copper keycaps. looks like copper ore

[scarlet knot]

does anyone here have a 60he with black white and red keycaps?

[hard halo]

I don't really like the new mason60 cases that have the dings what's your thoughts on it

[bronze agate]

you are referring to the texture imprints, correct? i personally am not too much a fan. The one pictured sort of looks like natural stone which is I think the only combination that looks interesting imo

[bronze agate]

hey, you used the mason60 case (resin version i think), what do you think of yours? looks/sound/feel etc

[granite spear]

There’s nothing special about the spring tool kit and lube kit from the site that I can’t get from Amazon much faster is there? I got the lighter springs but didn’t get that with it. Not sure if anything about the lekker switches make other tool kits not work?

[hard halo]

Love everything about the case especially the feel. New to modding tho so sound is pretty mid going to try some different things out

[crimson bolt]

https://streamable.com/r1pjfo
+1 very happy 60he user (spent the evening lubing and fiddling with stabs with this thing but I did give up on the enter key)

[dim bone]

spacebar sounds mint

[cloud valve]

was looking for ideas and wob SA looks sick, thanks man

[opaque basin]

I was lucky enough to get my hands on a tofu60.
I watched Wooting sound comparison video and that got me pretty sure that I need some foam or sound upsorbing in it.
I was thinking I could use the packaging foam it came with, cutting it to fit the bottom of the case.
Any people who have tried or done this?
I got my lube, tofu60 just waiting for the 60he. I’ve never tried customizing a keyboard before 🙂

[glacial harbor]

they sound really nice as well in my opinion

[glacial harbor]

the stock foam that comes in the wooting 60he is really good for sound dampening

[opaque basin]

I read in one of the channels that the stock foam doesnt fill the tofu60's edges which makes those presses sound different than others. But as i said havent been able to test anything myself yet. Thought maybe this could be a clever diy xd

[glacial harbor]

ill show you how i did mine

just a sec

so when you get the keyboard, there are 2 layers of the foam glued together. I took the two layers apart and cut up the top layer to fill in the gaps

these are the two layers I'm talking about

[opaque basin]

That makes sense. That top layer seems a little thinner on that picture, are those your edges? Also would that top layer not be "missing" when assembling in the tofu or does that make no difference

[glacial harbor]

its not actually that thin

its the same thickness as the bottom layer

the only reason theres a top layer in the 60he foam is to account for the angle of the board because it is just a plastic shell

[opaque basin]

So top layer was used as edges and the stock foam is the big square i assume

[glacial harbor]

its hard to explain lol

see how high the top standoffs are?

in your tofu the standoffs are all the same height

since the top standoffs are higher it needs more foam to fill in the empty space

[opaque basin]

So the last foam on the bottom in the last picture was the one that was 2 glued together? or is the bottom one and the "smaller" one above both glued together

I appreciate you trying to explain. I probably seem stupid, but its hard when i dont have hands on yet xD

[glacial harbor]

the bottom one and the smaller one are glued together to give extra height with the foam towards the shallower part of the case

left is the 60he case and right is tofu

[opaque basin]

Right, so that makes sense needing that smaller one for the exstra height

[glacial harbor]

see how much more space needs to be filled vertically on the 60he case?

thats why the extra foam piece is glued on towards the back

[opaque basin]

So you cut the "small" foam to fit the edges i assume?

[glacial harbor]

correct

[opaque basin]

Please tell me im clever enough to figure that out

YESS

Haha appreciate it mate

That might be the way to go, since that acutally made for it instead of my packaging foam idea

[glacial harbor]

doesnt hurt to try new ideas

i'd go for it and see how it goes

[opaque basin]

I guess i can feel how each foam feels when my kb arrives, guess whats the best.

But thank you very much for sharing 😄

[final python]

Guys I'm desperate...I don't know how to improve the sound...You guys think I can gummy O-Ring this in a tofu case? use pads? 😦

Some people say it sounds pingy or sum...

I did:
lubes switches
Tofu Case swapped
Silicone
2layer tape
burger mount
different keycaps

[glacial harbor]

try 4 or 5 layers of tape

[final python]

Alright I will do that tomorrow. Thanks. I will reply to that tomorrow with an updated sound test.

[glacial harbor]

also if I remember correctly silicone isn't the best for "dampening" the pinging noises

I would try some dampening foam instead

[final python]

So you would swa-

ok I will swap it.

[patent cargo]

cotton sheets would also be a good option to lower the pitch of the overall sound

[final python]

should i squeeze it in the case or should it lay "comfy" in the case?

DENSITY

i hope u know what i mean

[patent cargo]

sidenote: how come I still don't have the member role? Do I need to do something to get it it? I got my 60HE

[patent cargo]

comfy, you don't want to stuff it too much

[final python]

Go on the hub and you will get the role

as far as i can remember

[final python]

alright. would you recommend the gummy o ring mount?

or

is it even possible

LOL

[patent cargo]

it wouldn't work the same on this pcb since it doesn't have the cut outs to accommodate the standoffs in the edges

you can do a pseudo stack mount though

no screws

[final python]

nah nah nah i will not risk the pcb

i can do burger mount

thats enouugh

what about pads

switch pads?

[patent cargo]

just stuff the case with enough foam(or any case dampening to suspend the pcb off the bottom case, and have the gummy o ring keep it in place

[patent cargo]

no real need unless you want a pe foam type sound

[final python]

https://youtu.be/Uohbf2UH6FY?t=239 like that right?

click on link for time

[patent cargo]

yeah, I know what you mean by gummy o ring mount

the pcb won't let it work the same though

[final python]

the video.

yea thats what i mean

burger mount is a good solution

[patent cargo]

imma send a pic of a pcb that is made for this compared to the 60HE pcb

[final python]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[patent cargo]

those notches expose the o ring to the standoffs allowing for full suspension from the case

[final python]

gotchu

so i will try cotton after this i try normal foam

and 5layers tape

[patent cargo]

I've tried the gummy o ring/stack mount hybrid

it should get you the results you're looking for

[patent cargo]

I recommend one layer cuz anything beyond 2 layers is hit with diminishing returns

[final python]

if it doesnt fit (sound wise) then i can do 1/2 layers

ive enough tape xd

[patent cargo]

example of a gummy o ring build on my Blade 60

[final python]

👍 alr tysm

[bold skiff]

[lavish anvil]

does tapemod damage the pcb somehow?

[patent cargo]

not really

adding too many layers poses an unnecessary risk though

[lavish anvil]

how many layers are recommended

?

[patent cargo]

1-2 should be enough

[lavish anvil]

kk

[glacial harbor]

i have 4 or 5 layers on mine and its been fine

1-2 didn't do much for me in terms of sound

[glad gate]

has anyone here used a bbox60 case? what are the compatibility issues with it?

[fresh jackal]

You have to pluck/cut off the standoffs not needed for the 60HE, or you'll kill it.

[strange torrent]

Mansen you’ve been part of this discord for more than 5 years

[fresh jackal]

Since the first kickstarter, yes

[dim bone]

question: why do so many people lube when the wooting 60he comes factory lubed? surely factoring lubing is more consistent?

[dim bone]

you should add this to the case compatibility list, that looks like a rly cool case and I wish I knew it existed before buying

[loud belfry]

I've never really modified a mechanical keyboard before I got my 60 HE but I just finished lubing it today and it's SUBSTANTIALLY different.

[dim bone]

did you remove the factory lube beforehand? or just lube over the top?

[loud belfry]

Over the top

[unborn helm]

can i use my wooting60he on tofu60 2.0 or tofu jr case?

[mystic blaze]

tofu60 2.0 plate doesn't seem to fit 60he - what I can tell from the pictures

[fierce ether]

tofu60 2.0 also is center usb

so it won't fit

[fresh jackal]

Yeah it's a completely different design overall.

[dim bone]

yeah rip tofu60 wooting builds unless u can get second hand

[fresh jackal]

Get your Tofu today! 😄

[dim bone]

sold out everywhere

[fierce ether]

wooting60he actually probably helped them get rid of the rest of their stock 😂

[dim bone]

fr

[upper mist]

Downside is that they'll be using this version's sales figures to plan version 2 manufacturing schedules but if they don't make 2.0 compatible with our boards then they'll lose a huge chunk of their market

🤷

[fresh jackal]

If they don't have anyone noticing WHY they suddenly sold so many cases, that's on them 😄

[vocal needle]

Really niche question for burger mount enthusiasts- does the flex from the o rings increase how much you need to press to actuate the keys? I would imagine a friend is winding me up, and that any change is so minor as not to be felt, but thought I'd ask!

[dawn pike]

Just finished my wooting 60he modded in an aluminum blade by kbdfans. I clipped the stabilizers, lubed all the keys, and tape modded the pcb. The only other thing I’d like to do is gasket mount the pcb but I’m not sure where I can find the right one. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[faint tartan]

what did you use to cut btw?

[fresh jackal]

Shown in picture.

A cutter and a puller. No I don't know english names 😄

[faint tartan]

lol alright

[fresh jackal]

Step one is making cuts top to bottom on both sides of each standoff. Then I grabbed the puller and wiggled side to side until the standoff snapped off clean.

[faint tartan]

nice, i will be coming from an HHKB so gonna try to get that thocky sound from this.

any other mods you done for it?

[loud belfry]

Diagonal cutter, pliers

[ocean talon]

Hey guys, the ones that did a tape mod to the pcb, do you guys replace the tape every once in a while?

I've been meaning to do a tape mod but I'm scared the tape (scotch blue painters tape) will leave a sticky residue after some time

[fresh jackal]

Tape will always leave residue, even shortterm. That's just how it is.

[ocean talon]

Ah, alright, thanks man

[regal hound]

Im using the yellow painters tape (frog tape) and I havent had any residue issues, however I'm not sure how much a difference it makes (I'm using 3 layers) so if I ever have to replace it, I'll likely just leave it off.

[dim bone]

rubbing alcohol could be used to remove sticky residue, however, I'm not sure if it is 100% safe for the wooting pcb - definitely double check before trying

[fresh jackal]

@pulsar delta Few more photos, so you know what you're going into.

[pulsar delta]

Ah I see, might try it out but not 100% on the purple yet

[fresh jackal]

All of the ones marked with tape gots to go. Or you kill the 60HE when screwing it in.

[pulsar delta]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[fresh jackal]

I particularly like the C64/80s IBM version 😄

[wary mango]

Cerakey bros...

😭 😭 😭

[eager pasture]

We appreciate your sacrifice and the keyboard gore, in the name of science!

[dim bone]

so ur telling me i cant kickflip my keeb mid-game without the keycaps falling out?!?!

[wary mango]

nah, I'm telling you you can't put your keyboard in a carrying case without them falling out

(if you use cerakeys)

[patent cargo]

Update: My build now doesn't use thing double sided tape to attach the pcb to the plate assembly, and now I have standoffs installed so everything is nice and secure.

had to drill holes into the PSD60's plate, and screwed in some m2 standoffs

[dim bone]

sorry, are you using the Poseidon60 case

?

[patent cargo]

Yes, the Poseidon 60 gasket version

[dim bone]

oh gasket version, gotcha

[patent cargo]

https://streamable.com/cx0imt
This is what my build sounded like with the double sided tape fastening and no standoffs

this is the sound test with and without tape mod

I personally really like the sound without tape

[loud belfry]

Can you post pictures of what you're talking about?

[ocean talon]

quick question, does anyone know if this brass plate is compatible with the 60he pcb?

https://keebsforall.com/collections/pcb_plates/products/fb60-universal-ansi-brass-plate

[mystic blaze]

nope

[ocean talon]

Ah, didn't see that

[ocean talon]

Thanks man

[patent cargo]

Don't have any pictures rn to show exactly what I did . But I'll link a vid about how I made the 60HE work with potentially any universal left usb c port case happen (both double sided tape method, and the DIY standoffs) when I finish it

[tiny socket]

went with a monotone theme on this (kinda upset these keycaps have mac legends on them too 🤢 if anyone knows of a nice set of purple keycaps lmk)

[minor wave]

I wonder... 👀

[twilit trellis]

There's a keyboard case on Taobao called ZT60. Not to be confused with FluxLab ZT60.

I really wanna try it but iunno how to buy from Taobao...

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnjGGtNOeBK/?hl=en

Instagram

Look at the bezels on this thing

[torpid ice]

what case is this????

[glacial harbor]

got a better mic so it sounds a bit better now

[queen axle]

I have a group buy order for blank white cerakeys from keebsforall that I no longer need if someone's interested in taking it for $120 (was $150 after shipping and tax)

[opaque pivot]

assuming you can have a custom plate made it probably works

similar to the isabell

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/7198/9924/products/055A1336.png

[opaque pivot]

there's taro if you dont need shine through https://novelkeys.com/products/cherry-taro

[hallow terrace]

Hi boiz, does anyone has an opinion about the PBTFans Clear2048 Keycap Set ?

Are they good? Would they look good on this keyboard?

[final python]

ayo guys do you not lube the the top housing? or did you lubed it because friends told me "If you do or not, it doesn't matter because the stem is lubed and it automatically lightly lubes the top housing. it is not a problem if you manually lubed the top housing"

[fresh jackal]

The switches are factory lubed - It's more a question of precision amounts than location.

[final python]

hmm ok

[deep estuary]

Goodmorning guys. Do you recommend applying switch films to the 60HE. I was going to get it lubed

[final python]

films will not fit

[fresh jackal]

Also.

[cobalt ivy]

how do plate mount stabs work with this one? I've read reports that they are too loose/aren't supported

[deep estuary]

Thanks 👍

[gritty cave]

Hey, which switch pads did you use? Im wondering if they need to be below a certain thickness and also some have different cutouts than others

[patent cargo]

the 2u stabs work just fine, and I put in shims for spacebar stab

[bronze agate]

I used https://thockpop.com/product/pe-foam-switch-pads/ , they are out of stock so just look for any 0.5mm pad with cutouts for the LED at the edge and it should be fine

[hallow terrace]

Hey, any recommendation on a top notch case for a wooting 60? Looking for something like this, ty all

[patent cargo]

Acrylic Tofu 60 case from KBDfans would be the case you're looking for

[hardy wren]

what caps are those are sick

[silk moss]

Can you please do a soundtest with pom plate without any tape and just foam?

Tempest mod really seems to make an already unflattering sound profile even worse

[regal anvil]

As niche as this keeb modding scene already is, will y'all be doing a limited edition o ring compatible pcb(?) @hybrid rapids

[fresh jackal]

Please don't ping staff. 😁

[silk moss]

You can do this yourself with nail file or a dremel

https://youtu.be/e2BQEavCfrg

[hallow terrace]

Yup but can't find it anymore on internet 😦

[hallow terrace]

It's not mine ahah idk bro sorry 😦

[deft pendant]

same here, looks like they cancelled it. not just out of stock.

as an alternative i like this one (https://kprepublic.com/products/anodized-aluminium-flat-case-with-metal-feet-for-custom-mechanical-keyboard-black-siver-grey-colorway-for-gh60-xd60-xd64-satan) in black anodized. has anyone tried it, is it compatible w/o modding?

[hallow terrace]

Kinda sad ngl, the fact u could see rgb lightning through the case was sick

[fresh jackal]

Eh... not much

[sudden rune]

Would fr4 be too flexible as a plate material?

[patent cargo]

I've checked the pcb, and it's not possible with how the traces are position, unfortunately

[bronze agate]

sure. can try that next time I take apart my board. I will ping you when I do

[late stream]

Are there cases that reduce the overall height of the 60he?

[fresh jackal]

I think there are some low profile no-name? 60% cases on Ali.

But cases like Tofu and such are all similar angle and height to stock.

[late stream]

that would include the freebird60 ?

I am new to custom keyboards and I rly google my ass off, but it's hard to get very specific information.

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

Incomplete list

[late stream]

ty ❤️

[patent cargo]

Cablemod, easily

[silk moss]

Freebird60 is low angle

@late stream

5 degree

[late stream]

thanks

[molten cypress]

that sounds insanely good for me ! What modifications did you do ? I'm really looking for a tofu 60 case as it looks clean but I tend to think that you've not just changed the case ?

[glacial harbor]

tape mod (5 layers), lubed switches and stabs

[molten cypress]

okay thanks a lot ! Really good job on this one mate

[patent cargo]

I cut some diy films for my Lekker switches and it improved the sound by a lot

good enough to run my gasket build without any foam whatsoever

[scarlet basin]

@bronze agate I found switch pads on Amazon. But since I’m from EU I just have the option between keys piton and Eva. What do you think would give the best outcome?

https://www.amazon.com/Switch-Buffer-Hotswappable-Soldered-Keysporon/dp/B09KPYGMR8?th=1&psc=1

And look what else I just found too guys. What do you think about these ? 2Duck Mechanical Keyboard Switch Pad, 120PCS PE/Eva/Poron Material Switch Buffer/Mute Foam Pad Sticker for Keyboard PCB Hotswap (Color : Poron, Size : Mute Pad) https://amzn.eu/d/1te7iWl

[sudden rune]

What was the process of cutting diy films?

[void dust]

qk60 case seem doable or nah?

[bronze agate]

Hi, I assume by piton you mean poron? Poron supposedly is similar to eva but has more dampening. Keysporon seems to be a offbrand version of poron so I can't say for sure which is better

[scarlet basin]

Ayo I ordered some pa-pads from aliexpress 👍🏼 I’m good, thank you

[glacial harbor]

thank you :)

[patent cargo]

just snipped ptfe tape to size and laid them on the top housing like this

you can do it with a few layers of clear/frosted tape for better lighting though

here's how it looks put together

Eliminates the sound from the housing shifting around during use, but the main weak point of the Lekker would be the stem wobble which is a nitpick at worst

[scarlet arch]

Did you end up getting it? The white Blade60

[autumn smelt]

Nah LMAOO

8 months later still usin stock

[scarlet arch]

Hahaha same, been looking for options but the Blade60 was discontinued and sold out just about everywhere

Only colour I can really find available is silver, was gonna see how it looked with yours if you ended up getting it LOL

[scarlet basin]

That case is a good tofu/blade alternative. Grab it while u can …….. € 66,97 | Bgkypro Licht kante 60％ Aluminium kunden spezifische mechanische Tastatur hülle
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNPvOvg

[tight siren]

wooting60 works in a geon frog mini! still currently designing a plate for the correct stabs and standoffs

[fierce mauve]

what case is this?

[minor wave]

frog mini or 60

[fierce mauve]

thanks

[tight siren]

heres a plate file if anyone has a 3d printer and wants to maybe try this out. i havent tested this out as im waiting for someone whos willing to cut this to see if they can make what i requested but

[rancid adder]

Hey guys ! I'm new to the custom keyboard world so I thought of seeking advise here. I bought a black tofu 60 case and I'm looking for cherry profile keycaps to complete my keyboard. but seeing how lekker switches are north facing should I avoid cherry profile in case of interferences or am I safe (and can I still have a backlight rgb going on) ?
otherwise I'm really struggling to find any keycap sets that fits my taste. do you have any recommendations ? I can't find any blank keycap sets, otherwise I have the red samurai gmk and whale pbt sets in mind but I'm still unsure
thx in advance

btw my colour preference/scheme would be black, orange, blue or red (not flashy)

[regal anvil]

@rancid adder the switches can be flipped to be south facing, then there will be 0 issues with the interference at all, small inconvenience, but it works no problemo.

[fresh jackal]

Shouldn't be necessary however. 😁

[rancid adder]

thx for the reply. ideally I still want some minimum rgb going on tho so that was my concern too. but I'm glad I have a backup solution if not (I would rather have my keycaps working than rgb)

[wanton forum]

Where did you find a tofu in stock? Been scouring

[rancid adder]

from a brand called eloquent clicks, based in spain. so works for me. but indeed I struggled to find one. payed 100€ for it, taxes and shipment included

[scarlet basin]

damn nice

canceled my order on aliexpress and ordered the tofu on eloquent instead.

[rancid adder]

[silent python]

Anyone knows if I can use durocks v2 stabs?

[fresh jackal]

V2's are all screw mounted, no?
Regular Durocks fit, since they're plate mounted - But I have them and they don't really make a difference to stock Wooting ones.

[silent python]

Oh okay, guess i wasted 20€ loll

[fresh jackal]

14 day return?

You would have to pay return shipping of course, which might be more 😄

[silent python]

Exactly, but maybe in the future, I will build one from scratch

[tawdry ivy]

late reply - but curious did you have any issues getting all 4 screws in for the freebird case swap with your wooting? Was thinking about doing this swap but been reading mixed results on people finding 2 of the screws don't line up very well

[slim cloak]

any keycap recommendations that wouldn’t destroy my wallet?

[fresh jackal]

Ours.

[slim cloak]

[versed egret]

Mine worked fine

All 4 screws were in

And the o rings

[tawdry ivy]

nice ty!

[tawdry ivy]

i'm a sucker for clean black on white, especially those new pbtfans doubleshot bow keycaps that are pretty good quality for the price: https://kbdfans.com/products/pbtfans-doubleshot-bow

[regal anvil]

Screw ins, no

Preferably zealpc plate mounts are better than durock plate mounts

[silent python]

Oh okay, but are you using zealpcs?

[acoustic sundial]

Anyone knows what the best screw for burger mounting Wooting 60he to the Stock Case?

[tight siren]

i lied, heres the correct plate file 🙃 uses kbdfans m2.3 standoff screws where the countersunk screw holes are 😅 again, still needs to be protod but this should work

[rare vigil]

@fresh jackal Is there a plate file for the 60HE I can download? I want to make a custom plate so I can mount the 60HE in a custom case.

[fresh jackal]

https://github.com/WootingKb/wooting-design

[rare vigil]

Thanks!

[patent cargo]

Ooooh that looks sick. I was actually planning on doing this too, but I couldn't afford the Frog mini at the time of the drop :/

[tight siren]

there are holes in the plate foam that you might find helpful for the standoffs between the pcb and plate

[patent cargo]

Sorry for the dumb question, but can this file be used for CNC work, laser cutting or just 3d printing?

[patent cargo]

I went full yolo and stuck my PSD60 gasket's plate on the pcb and took a drill to the plate

[tight siren]

im gonna be honest, im not too sure. i dont know if laser cutting or 3d printing can do countersunk screw holes well

but if you have a way to keep the pcb and plate together otherwise, i think the other methods are fine

[patent cargo]

I wish I found out about the KBDfans standoffs sooner instead of fiddling with 3mm tall m2 standoffs and some 0.3mm m2 washers

what plate material did you end up with?

I'm deciding between copper, POM or CF

currently on aluminum and it only sounds decent with plate foam

[regal anvil]

Yes, running zealpc plate mount stabs rn

@fresh jackal would suggest to create a section in the compatible cases in the github for compatible aftermarket stabs for more choices for ppl to decide from, wdyt?

[fresh jackal]

We could, sure. But it's literally just "any plate mounted stab"

And given my personal anecdotal experience swapping to white Durock stabs, with no change I can tell, I'm not sure if it's really worth changing them at all 😄

[scarlet arch]

@fresh jackal Actually speaking of, would it be a hassle to add a tab on the compatible list saying if they're discontinued/hard to find etc? I noticed a large majority of the cases have been discontinued

Still possible to find in places, just v hard

[fresh jackal]

Adding it? Not at all. But maintaining it would be - Because it is almost 99% community drive in terms of adding new boards or adding updates. 🙂

[smoky marten]

i love the frog. looks so good! are the pcb just hanging loose now or how did you mount it without fitting plate?

[queen axle]

I'm selling a practically new silver Blade60 for $130 shipped if anyone is interested

[sudden rune]

Sorry for ping again, but did you find there to be any problems with the range with a 1.6mm plate?

[woeful pawn]

Even after lubing the board it is still very high pitched when releasing a switch

[loud belfry]

That isn't my experience.

[woeful pawn]

Ill have more time to mod it later but ill be more informed once i put foam in the case and spacebar

[tough nova]

Tape mod

Also what kind of case is it in?

[woeful pawn]

I have silicon i can pour into it, its one of the mekanisk

[tight siren]

using the given plate foam to support the whole thing on tbe bottom of the case right now

waiting for plate to be cut with standoffs

i think its similar to the stack mount some of the mode keyboards use

kinda scuffed right now haha

[smoky marten]

lol, it sounds kinda scuffed. but it will be good if the new plate gonna work with the tadpole mount 😄

[tight siren]

should be :D

[smoky marten]

jelly, i have the tkl frog. love it

[patent cargo]

what type of plate are you having made?

[maiden copper]

Where could i get a white case for my wooting thats in stock right now?

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

Depends on your budget, location and availability. Or your willingness to paint the stock case.

[bold skiff]

60HE Lekker Edition when

[fresh jackal]

Fleimi already did that, heh.

[smoky marten]

Oh I’m not. I’m not talented enough to draw a plate that will fit. Was asking the other guy how he doing it 🙂

[mystic blaze]

that's the best -true- custom job I've seen in this server tbh

and someone else did a white vinyl (furniture) wrap to their stock wooting case
it was really nice too

but Fleimi's keycaps and the visible logo gives it the edge

[rare vigil]

I tried uploading the ansi plate .dxf and the .stp file into fusion360. None of the files worked. It says Translation report error in Fusion360. Nevermind I was downloading from github incorrectly!

[astral heath]

is there a 60% aluminum case with a brass weight for the wooting? similar to the fjell

[patent cargo]

As far as I know, the Fjell is the only to actually involve brass in the 60% tray mount design

[ocean talon]

To the ones who have changed the 60he's plate, how do you secure the plate to the pcb?

[fresh jackal]

I think there's fewer than five people who have made custom plates - You would need the standoffs on the plate to match up.

[ocean talon]

I just got a cnced brass plate, but I unfortunately didn't account for the standoffs that hold the plate and pcb together with the screws

On my plate, instead of the standoffs, it's just holes

[fresh jackal]

Time for some solder and clever thinking I guess 😄

[ocean talon]

😭

Love the way it looks

But probably not gonna be able to use it without the standoffs

[fresh jackal]

Only way I can see that working, if is you can find a jerry rig solution with some two sided standoffs with threading on both ends, so you can screw them to the plate on one side (top side) and then screw the PCBA back together on the back side.

[ocean talon]

Ah, that sounds like an awesome idea

[fresh jackal]

The screws on the top side would have to be pretty flat though, or they'd hit the keycaps when pushed down. Again solder might be the better solution here to keep the plate flat.

[ocean talon]

Thanks man, I'll see what I can do

So excited to see how it look and feel

[fresh jackal]

Indeed! Be sure to share some photos in here once it's all done. People often ask about plates, and having more examples definitely can't hurt 🙂

[ocean talon]

I just got the most scuffed idea ever

Fishing line

[ocean talon]

Finally done with probably the first ever fishing line mod

The plate and pcb seems to be quite secure

Only had to make sure that all 4 sides are fastened

Loving the 'gold' base look

The fishing lines rest on the plate itself, but doesn't seem to interfere with the keycaps bottoming out at all

[fierce pagoda]

Any update on the build? I'm looking at getting a Baldr for my wooting as well and I have a few questions. What do you mean the standoffs don't match the PCB?

• Are they too short or are they not spaced out correctly?

• Hows the flex on the spacebar considering there's no standoff there?

[eager pasture]

MacGyver!

[random needle]

actually no, i got distracted! The baldr is literally still sitting on my desk. Well. There are some updates.

1. By "don't match" I mean the standoffs on the Baldr and the standoffs on the Wooting don't align properly. You can screw three of them in but getting all four doesn't seem possible, at least with mine. I have no idea why that is.
2. Regarding the spacebar, when i was using the Baldr standoffs it was no problem. The Wooting PCB is pretty solid, which i appreciate. With the custom gummy O-ring mount thing i wanted to do i was just going to stick silicone in the places i wanted to support, anyway.
3. Finding a good silicone standoff solution turned out to be way harder than i anticipated. I bought a bunch of different things to test but haven't had the opportunity to try them so i'm not sure which to recommend at that point.
4. The actual part i'm stuck on: Getting the brass standoffs out of the Baldr is a PITA. I ordered it with them not installed, but they came installed anyway. So it goes. It's not impossible to get them out but i got distracted and haven't gone back to finish the job.

[fierce pagoda]

Thanks! Can't you just take pliers to the standoffs and twist? Are they threaded onto the case?

[random needle]

they are not threaded

you can just pull them off, they're friction fitted, they're just tight and i'm lazy

[random needle]

best way i've found is to put a screw in them and then pry them out using the screw

[faint tartan]

any idea if this one would work https://www.primekb.com/products/simpler60-keyboard ?

nvm this one has centered usb c so wont work

[fierce pagoda]

Ohh I see. The board isn't wobbly even if you only use 3/4 screws? And is there room underneath the pcb for me to do a silicone pour or foam

I want to do the gummy o ring too, but the pcb traces are too close to the edge so you can't cut it

[random needle]

yeah, it was solid enough. All four would be better obviously but if you didn't know it was only three you'd never guess just by using it. You definitely can't cut this board (or if you can you'd need like the PCB diagram to know where) which is why i'm planning to use silicone standoffs

[patent cargo]

This is basically what I did on my PSD60 gasket with 3mm tall m2 standoffs and some two 0.3mm washers

[tawdry shore]

Could anyone please help me to understand what's the problem? I tried to swap stock stabs with durock (stabs smokey, plated mount), lubed them with 205g00, and the keys were super mushy. Even when I wiped some of it nothing has changed, though there's not that much lube on them. I lubed exactly like in the video about lubing from the official wooting youtube channel. Is there a problem with a compatibility or the fault is on lube itself/me overlubing?

[loud belfry]

Are the stems of the stabs fully inserted into the key caps?

[tawdry shore]

Yes, I pressed them down with quite a force

[unreal mauve]

Do u guys know any reliable website where I can buy a 60% tofu ?

A website where there is stock

[opaque basin]

Maxgaming still have walnut and a green, pink in stock

[novel wolf]

Royal Glam 60% Black Walnut case.

Wooting screws were not long enough. Had to use some spare KBDfans case screws which have smaller screw heads. Also placing screws are a bit hard and is easy to over tighten them.

Had to sand the USB socket opening a bit otherwise Type C cables won't fit.

Technically thicker connectors still won't fit but the Wooting OEM cable and Zmi USB-C cables have thinner connectors that will fit.

[vocal needle]

Tape mod - did y'all just cover the whole back of the pcb with a couple of layers, or do we need to leave any gaps?

[lavish anvil]

did u just paint the case or is that an actual thing?

[fresh jackal]

Yes he did.

[tough nova]

That Black Friday sale really on the Tofus REALLY cleared out their inventory lol

[lethal idol]

It's very dry winter here

so thats probs whats going on, but has anyone found their stabilizers to start sounding a bit more hollow/rattly after a while? not all are like that yet, but the shift buttons and spacebar so far after about a month of use

[analog gyro]

Anyone know the size of screws used to mount the PCB? I want to try and get longer ones

[fresh jackal]

Longer ones? Careful with the threading. They're M2x3mm iirc

[analog gyro]

Thanks, I was thinking of trying m2x5mm for burger mount. uxcell M2x5mm Phillips Screw Fastener Black 3.8mm Dia Screw Head for Laptop PC TV Fan Switch 100pcs https://a.co/d/aOVCmvi

[regal hound]

@analog gyro you can use a larger size to help with burger mount, just don't over tighten. A lot of the aftermarket cases come with m2x4mm or 5mm screws

[polar verge]

is the case combability list in pins all of them?

[fresh jackal]

No. It is what people have reported in. There could be cases that work or don't not on the list.

[pallid lynx]

now with new keycaps

[tawdry ivy]

oo hangul keycaps

clean, i just got the epbt hangul set to get that same looks minus the shinethrough

[pallid lynx]

it's not shinethrough

[tawdry ivy]

oh must just be lighting

[pallid lynx]

gradient and somewhat matching keylights

[tawdry ivy]

fancy

[scarlet quail]

Have any of you bought a Klippe T or Fjell recently? I'm really confused about the shipping times and availability.

[pallid lynx]

got mine 2nd hand 🤷

[regal hound]

@scarlet quail shipping times to the US?

[scarlet quail]

EU, more confused about availability

[regal hound]

Ahh cant help you there. They do have a discord you can join and ask though.

[scarlet quail]

no worries, I already asked them there, just wanted to ask here as well to see :)

their discord is kinda dead

[regal anvil]

Considerable quite fast, got them in a week or so

Considerably*

[scarlet quail]

DAMN.

[regal anvil]

Got It in grey with oblivion v2 keycaps for the taeha vibes

[regal hound]

I have an e-white klippe and an ultramarine ffjell. Running some NovelKeys PBT caps currently but have 2 sets of GMK caps coming tomorrow to test with and see how much (if any) it changes the sound.

[silent python]

is the Ulktramarine v2 compatible with 60he?

[regal anvil]

Yes cause it's a standalone case

And plus it's a fjell and ultramarine is just the colour style itself

[silent python]

Thank you 😄

[regal hound]

Oh yes, sorry. Ultramarine is the colorway 🙂

[willow moth]

Sorry to ping you randomly, but I was wondering how the ceramic keycaps are working for you with the HE switches? Especially if you have any trouble with their weight at .1mm actuation, or any other issues you may have encountered. Love the build btw, very similar to what I'm planning to do once mine arrives!

[strange torrent]

No problems with the switches and actuations. My biggest gripe is that the ceramic stems are too hard for the soft plastic of the switches, which wears down the stem and loosens the grip over time

I’ve fixed this by putting tape in every stem hole to avoid ceramic/plastic contact

Other than that, works great. My stabilizers need to be re-tuned though

Only the spacebar needed a new spring to handle the weight

I have a new set of ceramic keycaps arriving next month

White with indigo accents

[willow moth]

Thanks for the heads up about the stems, that's great to know. What weight of spring did you go with for the space bar?

[strange torrent]

Had to buy custom, wooting don’t make heavier springs yet

They are planning on releasing some though

[willow moth]

The indigo cerakey? Those are gorgeous

[dire vigil]

Hey guys. So the Mekanisk Fjell is a bit rich for my blood but is their Klippe T as alternative that is as compatible?

[strange torrent]

Yes it is

[dire vigil]

Thanks 👍

[strange torrent]

Yeah I’m super hyped. Here they are without legends on someone else’s board

[willow moth]

God that's a sweet build

I'm planning to do either white or aqua green cerakey, probably with a green aluminum case

Also working on figuring out how to integrate TouchID

[strange torrent]

Green is cool, I have a green and white set on the way

For my girlfriend’s board

This is supposedly how the green is supposed to look

Hard to tell since colors can change a lot in photos

But this is an official photo

I like this shade a lot

[willow moth]

Yeah the color is great. Definitely share a pic of their color when they arrive (if you remember)

Thanks for the insight, looking forward to ceramic keycaps

[regal hound]

@dire vigil are you located in the US?

[dire vigil]

I'm in Europe, why?

[regal hound]

Was going to see what the delivery times were for you to the US for the Klippe

[dire vigil]

Ah sorry yeah can't help you on that one.

[ancient granite]

Any key cap recommendations that don’t cost more than the keyboard? I’m gonna be using the MK purple Tai-Hao rubber key caps for the main key WASD-1234 with a silver tofu60

[quick eagle]

Do you guys think this custom case me and a friend are working on would fit the 60he pcb? It's meant to support both o ring and tray mount pcbs

[tawdry ivy]

there's a ton of options depending on how low you want to go on price

if you want really cheap then ali express has a lot of clones

if you want mid range then something like kdbfans in brand like their pbtfans black on white is quite nice

[ancient granite]

Can you tell me why one would spend $200 on key caps? Like what does price do?

I know difference between PBT and all that

[tawdry ivy]

$200 i assume you probably saw some gmk keycaps or similar?

[ancient granite]

Yeah GMK is all I see people getting

[tawdry ivy]

it's mostly just that they're niche created keycaps in small quantities with decent quality

so that's just the price they have them at for small orders

people pay for the design they like or rarity

i don't personally like gmk much though because they're abs, and i have sweaty hands that make keycaps shine fast

[ancient granite]

Yeah that’s my only requirement on key caps besides $$$ is I want them PBT

[tawdry ivy]

these days a lot of the big brands have started making their own branded keycaps that honestly match up to the gmk/epbt brand ones

like the pbtfans ones by kdbfans is honestly as good as any epbt set i have

sometimes you get pay extra for fancy special edition keys too called artisans, like I paid $50 for a limited run metal escape key to match my korean keycap set for my wooting

but that's purely cosmetic and because they're also very limited runs

[ancient granite]

I’ll check them out thanks! Difference between epbt and PBT?

[tawdry ivy]

they're both pbt brands, epbt is the most known group buy brand for making pbt material keycaps

while pbtfans is a newer brand with newer molds that's also making pbt material keycaps - but they're run by a big custom keyboard company and order in a lot more regular quantities which keeps prices low

[ancient granite]

So really it’s you spend more to flex on keyboard custom “nerds”

[tawdry ivy]

at mid level you pay mostly for slightly better quality of printing and such typically - but very minimal differences honestly and keycaps just tend to be pricy if they're more wanted/rare to find

like for example if you wanted a plain black on white keycap set from epbt then you'd get something like 'epbt x gok'

that's like $100 or so

or pbtfans now has their black and white set which is also pbt (and even doubleshot which is arguably better for long lasting print) for $75:

and similar with gmk being the 'namebrand' for abs material keycaps and drop having their dcx or whatever it is brand that does the same thing for a bit cheaper honestly

[dire vigil]

Sometimes what you want just happens to be the expensive stuff. The hobby is very subjective there's no "best" and value is relative to each person.

[tawdry ivy]

Yeah like sometimes you just want to make it ‘pretty’ or nicer just because it’s your hobby

Like all the metal cases half of us bought for our wooting which provides no real performance difference

[dire vigil]

Or are trying to buy because y'all got there before me XD

[scarlet quail]

I understand that people want to spend that amount of money for 99.9% perfect lettering and such high quality, but I'll never understand why sooooo many are fans of ABS.

My GMK caps literally look like this after a year of use and I can even start to feel the lettering

Time to go back to PBT

[fresh jackal]

But... GMK use doubleshot. The same exact method as PBT uses for lettering on similar keycaps.

🤔

[quick eagle]

Mansen you think you could help me with this?

[fresh jackal]

I wouldn't trust a case with only two screw mounts. Our PCBA uses 5.

[quick eagle]

What kind of issues would it cause? If only 2 are used

[ancient granite]

Wobbling PCB

[round cove]

Does anyone know if 60he pcb will fit in the kbdfans bamboo 60% case?

Bamboo Wood case 60% for GH60 DZ60 Mechanical Keyboard https://a.co/d/cvVQ0Ju

[fresh jackal]

Yes - But - You will need to sand the case a tad to make the PCBA fit safely.

[quick eagle]

I tried just those two screws on my 5 degree and there wasn't too much wobble so theoretically it should still be fine right?

[ancient granite]

Depends the placement of screws, I saw a video reviewing a case and it didn’t have a screw in the center bottom and, with enough pressure ofc, the pcb rotated downward. That was with 4 screws in.

But yes theoretically it should be.

[fresh jackal]

I would at a minimum glue/tape some matching standoff "peg" replacements into those spots to make sure the PCBA gets the support it needs on all of those points to avoid flexing.

[quick eagle]

Alright thanks for the help

[scarlet quail]

Yes, but GMK caps are ABS and not PBT, so they are way more prone to shining

[fresh jackal]

Shining, yes. Not literal shaving off the keycap material to a point where you should feel the legend layer pop through.

[scarlet quail]

I can literally feel the raising of the D

it's visible too in the right lighting

here you can see it

[fresh jackal]

That looks more like a molding issue than wear and tear. Never seen a GMK set with that issue personally.

[scarlet quail]

That would explain why I can only feel it on that specific cap and no other

[bold skiff]

I have experienced this (or something very similar) while testing out keycaps for @hybrid rapids
Something factory or quality related I assume

[fresh jackal]

Sure - But GMK? It can happen to anyone if there's a defect, but I have never seen this with GMK as a whole..

[regal hound]

I own half a dozen GMK sets and havent seen that either. Im sure it happens, just not often

[pallid vessel]

I ordered a Klippe on December 28th and it was delivered to BC Canada on January 4th

[regal hound]

That's actually pretty good delivery time! Thanks

[pallid vessel]

Yeah I was super surprised it came so quickly

[bronze agate]

hey, have the sound tests for you now. boosted my mic gain this time since it was very quiet last time

[novel wolf]

Switched to some better M2x5 screws and washers.

The rightmost (bottom right corner of the enter key) standoff on my copy seems to be shallower by around 1mm than others, I'll try some matching M2x3 and M2x4 to see which fits better.

[smoky marten]

I need to redo the mods on my stabs on on the enter. it sound kinda metalic and spacebar doesn't that good either. Maybe a tape on spacebar row and need to lube the stab more on enter?

[patent cargo]

I actually like the shine on worn in ABS, and ABS has a very pleasant sound signature compared to the dull/muted/thuddy sound that PBT makes

[smoky marten]

also abs have a nicer color sat. atleast gmk

[silk moss]

abs just too slippery imo for hours try hard gaming sessions

[fresh jackal]

ABS manufacturing is a lot cheaper, so there's a lot more group buys and such for sure.

[silk moss]

need to color match gmk wob alphas for just pbt wasd keys

[acoustic sundial]

fghfghfghfghfghfghfghfgh

[mystic blaze]

kjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkjkj

[scarlet quail]

Yeah ABS caps certainly sound better, but I personally can't stand the shine anymore

[scarlet quail]

I just ordered a Klippe two days ago and it's getting delivered this week already, pretty crazy.

[silk moss]

What colors did you guys get @scarlet quail @pallid vessel

[scarlet quail]

blacc

[silk moss]

I cowarded out and got grey

Was eyeing ultramarine and silver

[scarlet quail]

my setup literally looks like an average optimum tech video lmao

[scarlet quail]

ultramarine is hot af

[sour siren]

Has anyone found a 60% wrist rest that magnetically attaches to the wooting 60he? If yes which one? and if it's not compatible with the default keyboard case, which one do you recommend that would be compatible with it?

[fresh jackal]

The case is plastic. Why would a wristrest attach itself to our keyboard? 😄

Equally important - Adding magnets to a scenario that already involves sensitive magnets is probably not an ace idea.

[mystic blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/me-you-magnet-wile-e-coyote-gif-14186471

too many cartoons probably

[pallid vessel]

I got ultrahot

[sour siren]

do we have confirmation from wooting that it would interfere with the switches?

[mystic blaze]

mansen is wooting represantative

so you kinda got a "be cautious"

from wooting

[fresh jackal]

🤔

It's a hypothetical. You're putting a magnet near other magnets. That has potential to screw with the sensors on the PCB for each switch.

[sour siren]

well I have an issue where my wrist rest shifts while I use it so I need either a case that has an integrated wrist rest (third party case maybe that I haven't found) or a magnetic wrist rest. Maybe weak magnets?

[loud belfry]

Velcro?

[ancient granite]

How does the current wooting wristrest attach?

clips to the case? thats how my Corsair did.

[fresh jackal]

It doesn't

It's a slab of silicone. It just sits there,. menacingly

[sour siren]

just my opinion and I know there will be people that disagree with me on this, the wooting wrist rest is too wide (distance from base of keyboard outwards towards edge of desk) and it's too hard. I got excited after I ordered one but it ended up not being comfortable to me.

[tawdry ivy]

you might be using wrist rest a bit wrong - you don't want to push down on any wrist rest (this hurts you carpal tunnel/wrist long term)

it's just meant to elevate your wrist to a nicer typing angle, kind of like it's part of your desk

[sour siren]

I keep my arm straight from the keyboard to my chair's arm rest and it's still not comfortable. The edge digs into my arm and the surface is still a little harder than I'd like. Maybe it's because I'm used to the memory foam wrist rest but at least those have a curved edge (the edge away from the keyboard) so it doesn't dig into my arm.

[loud belfry]

I'm currently using a scrap piece of 1x4 as a wrist rest.

[sour siren]

I'm using a thin memory foam wrist rest on top of the wooting wrist rest X) it works but as I mentioned tend to move my keyboard a lot so it gets annoying having to adjust the wrist rest in the right spot every time

[void dust]

https://us.deltahub.io/products/carpio-2

this seems like your best option tbh

[sour siren]

funny you mention that, I actually already have one for my mouse hand, not quite tall enough for the keyboard though imo

might try the velcro idea lol

[void dust]

thats also a good idea

[sour siren]

I'd need an asymmetrical keyboard 60% wrist rest though.... not many have a flat side towards the keyboard that's slanted like the wooting wrist rest (I mean it WAS made for this keyboard)

[muted birch]

https://www.tarodepato.com/products/gradient-purple-keycap-set

Any chance there might be enough of us willing to buy that someone who makes films would be willing to do a group buy for Lekker films?

[silk moss]

public libraries in the us sometimes have cricut machines for public use

just need .svg with lekker dimensions and some stencil vinyl and it could be an easy 5$ job

https://design.cricut.com/#/landing/project-detail/60368b63d41c770d7c6ea62e delivery of my order estimated on the 9th

will look into making if it isn't already done by then

[muted birch]

Sounds like I just need an SVG file

Oh is this the file I need?

[silk moss]

That file is for generic mx switch

[muted birch]

Ohhh

[rose echo]

any alternatives for tofu60 case
They're out of stock and the group buy for the tofu60 2.0 case is a bit too expensive
preferably aluminum

[regal hound]

The Tofu 2.0 isnt compatible anyway

You can always do aliexpress or buy from another member who has extras

[rose echo]

ahh any ideas on finding members with extras

[regal hound]

I've asked about setting up a marketplace channel but I dont think it'll happen. You can always try mechmarket but they get snatched up within a minute usually.

I've got a few extra cases, I'll shoot you a DM

[rose echo]

Ty I appreciate it

[silk moss]

As many people have said above, klippe t is an in-stock case that ships pretty fast

and is arguably better than the tofu60 too

[regal hound]

Yeah, I have 2 of the Klippes and think they are fantastic. You can get them $180 shipped to the US

[flat plank]

After trying a couple of metal keyboard cases, I realized I heavily prefer plastic ones due to the sound. Are there any plastic cases anyone recommends? I really like the look of the GK61 one, but the screw holes are different.

[acoustic sundial]

Would anyone know if KBD Fans Tofu 60 Wood Case is compatible with Wooting?

Found a listing in FB Market place for 60 usd and seeing that there no stock of it on KBDFans site...

[void dust]

it is compatible

but i forget who

someone had to sand down inside the case a bit to make the pcb fit?

someone quote me if im wrong

[regal hound]

Yeah it requires sanding, you can see it on the official compatibility list

@flat plank plastic as in polycarbonate similar to the stock case or acrylic like this? https://divinikey.com/products/kbdfans-tofu-60-case?variant=39278194196545

[dim bone]

PSD60 Poseidon60 on AliExpress

way cheaper than Klippe and Tofu. but has branding on back

[unique orbit]

Love this thing for my mice actually

[sour siren]

agree, it's pretty awsome

[molten cypress]

hi guys! I was wondering, as the tofu60 case got discontinued, do you know any alternative that could make a great sounding case that is compatible with the wooting ?

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[molten cypress]

yup I knew about the compatibility page! But I don't have any knowledge on which one sounds good and the other not, but thanks though! I will try to find one with this

[regal hound]

Sounding good is subjective is so many ways and each case will sound slightly different especially depending on the material, the dampening types and the keycaps. There are of course other things like tape mod, o-ring/burger mount, etc but those have significantly less impact on sound (at least to my untrained and unsophisticated ears)

Plus, tbh, the acronyms people use to describe the sound a keyboard makes are also subjective. Thocky, clacky, poppy, chalky, creamy, etc are pretty funny. It really boils down to frequency and volume and you can determine fairly quickly whether you like the more metallic sound of an aluminum case or something with a lower frequency like an acrylic case. Then you can tweak the those things by adding/removing/changing the dampening materials, changing keycap profiles (for example, if you like a deeper/lower frequency sound you would like pretty OEM or SA keycaps over the default cherry ones) and keycap material.

[tawdry ivy]

depends on angle really, there's a whole bunch of metal cases in 5 up to 8 degree angles

easiest to just pick the angle you like and see which ones match

[molten cypress]

nice, thanks for the tips, as you said i'm looking for keycaps too, I really do like a more creamy sound so I don't on which thing I should go for. For the angle, I pretty like the default wooting one so idk if it's 5 or 8 degrees

I will look at the mods other people have done to find one that suit me

[tawdry ivy]

wooting one is pretty low iirc, like 4 or 5 degrees

so if you want to match that angle you'll want something like a freebird60

[molten cypress]

ok ok nice

i'll look forward to it

[tawdry ivy]

they're taking preorders for freebird60 now for a march delivery

[molten cypress]

good to know i'll take a look

damn it's clean i like that

[tawdry ivy]

keycaps is very personal pref on abs vs pbt and such, but for basic sets there's a bunch of newer ones from the big custom keyboard brands that compete with gmk/epbt sets nowadays

dcx = drop.com's own abs brand, comparable to gmk in a lot of ways for way less (both abs keycaps)

[molten cypress]

yeah idk i struggle a lot with keycaps because i cannot define if they are great quality or not it's really difficult

[tawdry ivy]

pbtfans = kdbfans own pbt brand, comparable to epbt (both pbt keycaps - but pbtfans is actually doubleshot which is longer lasting than epbt)

[molten cypress]

nice nice

it's easy to find ANSI layout that seems to be great quality but ISO is really difficult

there's not many choices tbh

i'll look on PBTfans

[tawdry ivy]

i'm a fan of their sets too, since i'm personally not a big fan of abs with the shining issue after awhile

[molten cypress]

i see

by any chance do you know any keycaps set with japanese kanas on ? I talk japanese and I am a lot in contact with japanese people so it's kinda difficult for me right now cuz i'm not familiar with japanese keyboard

like I do find some, but it's on amazon or stuff like that and I don't think they are really great :/

[tawdry ivy]

yeah a lot of them do japanese kana, what color are you looking for?

[molten cypress]

more into black / white combo so I think it's really common

[tawdry ivy]

oh that's easy then

https://kbdfans.com/products/kuro-shiro-r3

[molten cypress]

I just need a set that'll match some artisan keycaps i've bought with koi carp

[tawdry ivy]

probably the most popular black/white set with japanese kana on it

[molten cypress]

okay nice!

[tawdry ivy]

so popular that they're onto round 3 of the restock lol

[molten cypress]

i'll check if they have ISO layout

nice

[rose echo]

Pretty good video about acoustics and science behind it as well if you're interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N8k0u75eLQ

[molten cypress]

oh nice i'll check it! thanks!

[dire vigil]

So I think I need slightly longer screw for my build. Does anyone know what spec the screws are and where to source longer ones?

[fresh jackal]

M2x3mm by default. So you'd need 4 or 5mm

[dire vigil]

Thanks

[regal hound]

@molten cypress Ive got a new set of these I'm willing to part with if they match your color scheme - https://cannonkeys.com/products/nicepbt-fbasic (just DM me if interested, dont want to derail this channel)

I installed them on an acrylic 60HE for some photos and thought they looked great

[molten cypress]

that's pretty nice tbh

i'm not a big fan of the acrylic case but i really like the caps

I think that could match, my girlfriend bought me those so I think it can be nice!

idk how it will be when I receive it but it really look nice of the picture

she got me the spacebar and esc button so definitely a white / red color scheme will do great

[regal hound]

Yeah man those looks really good!

[molten cypress]

thanks!

and thanks again for the set I'll think about it but it definitely looks great for what I need!

[regal hound]

I see you are in the EU and I'd rather sell to a US based buyer but I do think they would look perfect with those novelities!

[molten cypress]

Yes i'm from France! ok no problem! :))

[flat plank]

Similar to stock case, really I'm looking for a case similar to the GK61

[regal hound]

In that case there should be 100 options of AliExpress, likely for under $20

[exotic badger]

Does the PSD60 fit as easily as the Tofu60 or do you need to mod it some?

I have a pink Tofu60 and I'm looking to find a red aluminum case that fits but I don't wanna spend a ton of money

I wish I had known about the Klippe T when the red version still existed

[scarlet basin]

Clipping stock stabz recommended? Has anyone done this?

[loud belfry]

Stock stabs aren't molded with the wings that need clipping.

[scarlet basin]

What does molded mean in that context?

[loud belfry]

Generally, plastic parts are injection molded which means there's a mold that gets hot plastic squirted into it. The mold is a template for the shape. So, the stock stabilizers on the 60HE do not come with the wings because the template does not have them.

I'm wondering if you may be getting tripped up on "molded" vs "moulded". Same thing.

[scarlet basin]

Ah k, thank you man!

[loud belfry]

You're welcome!

[primal pendant]

Anyone using the 5° 60% Anodized Aluminum Case - what kind of foam do you have inside? I've got 2 layers of zip n fit, but sound is pretty high pitched. Wondering if I could have fit a third.

[quick eagle]

I'm using it right now zip n fit sounded too high pitched for me so I just used the smaller part of the stock foam

Sounded fine with that one

[primal pendant]

Thanks for the reply, I’ll definitely try this

[exotic badger]

I saw that the Kylin60 works well. Anyone used it before?

[patent cargo]

That's fair. Shine seems gross to a lot of people

[silent python]

What size should burger mounts do I need?

[potent umbra]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but I was wondering if anyone has used Blueskin inside the case before? its a thick sticky rubberized sheet designed for sealing windows and doors to house wrap in new construction. I have some extra from installing a patio door and seems like it could be a good replacement to either a tape mod or in a case to provide some extra sound dampening. Link is just to show someone manipulating the product as its hard to grasp what it is from photos. https://youtu.be/NiyBkSTf1dQ?t=100

[loud belfry]

It will leave a nasty residue if you ever need to take it off. I wouldn't use it on the PCB. If you're trying to absorb the vibration of the case itself, then an actual constraint layer damper would be better (I.E. foil backed butyl). If you're trying to absorb echo, then neither the Blueskin nor a CLD will help.

[scarlet basin]

what m2 screws should i take, if i o-ring my tofu ? 5mm good enough ?

or would 6mm be the safe choice ?

[loud belfry]

I just bought a kit of various m2 size screws, washers, and nuts on Amazon for like $8

[vocal needle]

Did the same, used I think m2x6 to put into the kbdfans 5 degree

[regal hound]

@flat plank I found you a good ABS plastic case that launched today - https://fishworks.bigcartel.com/

[vocal needle]

Looking at foams for mounting the wooting in the klippe case, rather than re using stock foam again. Any UK friendly reccomendations / amazon?

[regal hound]

Try it without foam first or try polyester fiber fill.

[ancient granite]

What keycap styles do you guys prefer? XVX, XDA, etc. tbh I never new there was a difference in that area.

[scarlet basin]

I had xda once and I didn’t like it at all. Went back to cherry profile

Oem is kinda the same as cherry mx. Only difference is, they are higher.

[fresh jackal]

sideviews like these help.

Most gaming keyboards (ours included) use OEM. Cherry is a popular choice for group buys like GMK.

[tawdry ivy]

cherry is my favourite of the popular ones for sure. My absolute most favourite is SS2 though, which is varmilo and leopold's keycap profile - almost same as cherry but ever so slightly shorter

[willow moth]

Is anyone able to tell me if there's enough room in the stock case for a ribbon cable to slide behind the internals and into the bottom of the case?

Like behind the 0 or - key, and down to where the foam is?

[icy tree]

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005003619045617.html?spm=a2g0n.detail.1000014.11.4f467c1cSUnt0U&gps-id=platformRecommendH5&scm=1007.18499.315613.0&scm_id=1007.18499.315613.0&scm-url=1007.18499.315613.0&pvid=26992871-fbce-4075-8d45-d315ac30b679&_t=gps-id:platformRecommendH5,scm-url:1007.18499.315613.0,pvid:26992871-fbce-4075-8d45-d315ac30b679,tpp_buckets:668%232846%238114%231999&pdp_npi=2%40dis!VND!1003688.0!682414.0!!!!!%402101d1c316754447186477269e015c!12000026520655710!rec do you guys think this will fit the he with a lil work?

[regal hound]

It would fit with no work as long as you the dampening material you use doesnt push the USB port too high

[ancient granite]

Key to getting more thock? Thinner foam, tape mod, burger mountin?

As of rn I was gonna do zip n fit, tape mod, burger mount, and case swap. (Ofc lube switches)

[hazy sentinel]

is there a list on like the popular aftermarket keycaps people purchase for the wooting 60 he?
im like a rookie on keycaps

or if any could give me some recommendations. please ping me aswell so my blind eyes can see a reply

[mystic blaze]

that really is preference...

if you mean for the stock case - you can copy any black case keyboard you like
if you mean backlight keycaps - you would be OK with stock keycaps
if you mean keycap profile - most common is cherry - but no one can tell you what you should get because it's just preference...

[wanton forum]

So is everyone removing center stand-off from Tofu60 v1?

[regal hound]

No, why would you? The 60HE PCB has a hole in the middle to support that center standoff on aftermarket cases.

[wanton forum]

People saying to allow some flex

[fresh jackal]

You want no flex for the sensors.

[mystic blaze]

you want no flex for the sensors
I want flex

[hazy sentinel]

is there any website u can recommend that sells good keycaps? need a starting point

[fresh jackal]

Needs to be a lot more specific. Keycaps in come many languages, profiles, price ranges, in stock mass produced or one off group buys.

WHERE are YOU located?

[hazy sentinel]

oh ok does profile mean like layout srry am noob

im in aus

i can do any budget

[fresh jackal]

Profiles - We use OEM as do most gaming brands. Cherry is a popular alternative.

I have - no - idea about Aussie market or customs. I imagine you can order from US or China fairly easily (ali express). I assume you use ANSI in Australia?

Hmm... Australia apparently uses ANSI... but in an international layout. Well that isn't making things easy 😄

[hazy sentinel]

yeh im used to ansi

first time i saw iso i was like what the heck

[late jewel]

following up on this since it seems like there’s people that managed to get the 60HE to fit in the freebird…. i was able to do it relatively easily with the tofu, but the freebird just would not fit for me no matter how much i shifted the PCB/plate around

[tawdry ivy]

you can buy international pretty easy, but if you prefer aus stock there's dailyclack and switchkeys as the 2 big online aus keyboard shops

[tawdry ivy]

i wonder if you had a slightly off shaped one or something

i did look into it more with others who got it to fit and they said it fit fine

[gritty cave]

Hey, could you link me where you got your screws from please? the M2x5

[late jewel]

unsure, everything seems fine so i don’t know…. earlier on i remember there were others having similar problems to me concerning fitting the 60he into a freebird

mostly just want to know cuz i’m thinking of doing a custom wooting for a friend and had the freebird on hand, but mine wouldn’t screw down

[tawdry ivy]

maybe one of the screw spots in yours was slightly off maybe

i was talking to one of the folks with a freebird before and he said it just slotted in fine and he even got the silicon padding in

[smoky marten]

Yes I clip mine

[regal hound]

@late jewel Ive got a Freebird coming this week and I'll let you know if I have any issues.

[tawdry ivy]

Oo where’d you get that one from tirade?

I was honestly tempted to get the maze64 but it only comes in full kit and I’d have to go white instead of black case since black sold out everywhere

[regal hound]

I grabbed it off Ebay actually but its a US seller so not sure that helps you. I've tested/tied 6 or 7 different cases now and have a few more coming (or trying to find) to verify and add to the list.

[tawdry ivy]

Ah okay, yeah I’m just waiting patiently for the freebird restock I guess

[regal hound]

I dont think people in this discord realize how many cases are out there designed off of the GH60/Poker PCB standard. Or maybe they arent willing to take the risk of trying something not already on the list. I'd bet there are probably a dozen or so more cases not on that list that would work today without mods.

[tawdry ivy]

stock is a big issue i think, a lot of people don't want to buy 2nd hand and custom keyboards often make in small batches so finding stuff gets annoying

[fresh jackal]

Definitely the latter. Not too many people willing to gamble a 200€ keyboard on an untested case, if they're not experienced modders who can spot issues.

[regal hound]

Fair point Mansen and maybe I underestimate how much basic knowledge is needed to swap a keyboard to another tray. I feel like if you have ever installed a motherboard in a computer case, this would be childs play. I mean outside of standoffs not lining up or overtightening screws, I'm not sure what risks even a newcomer would face.

[tawdry ivy]

i do find it funny that wooting is single handedly clearing up a lot of backstock for old 60% group buys

[regal hound]

@tawdry ivy I think it's also because people shit on plate mount cases lately so manufacturers aren't focusing on producing them as much.

Which means, yes, inventory is drying up

[tawdry ivy]

yeah like those kdb 5% cases sat in stock for god knows how long

then wooting came along and suddenly kdbfans sold out and it just dried up all over the place

at least i'm thankful kfa seems to be continuously making the freebird cases which is nice

[regal hound]

Let's be real. This is a gaming keyboard. Period. It's never going to sound as good or flex as much as a several hundred dollar keyboard that's designed for typists or sound enthusiasts. However, it can get close and do it while being the best gaming keyboard on the market.

[sinful cliff]

Did anyone try to paint the walnut tofu 60?

[regal hound]

Btw, probably not a popular opinion, but for everyone screaming they need a flexible PCB because of feel or fatigue are likely typing so much that they should be investing in something designed for that. I've never had hand fatigue from gaming, even after all day gaming sessions and if my hand ever did start to hurt, a flexible PCB wouldn't have solved the problem.

@sinful cliff I know people have, or at least I've seen someone sand one down and re-stain it. I assume painting it would be the same process (or just use a really good primer first)

[fresh jackal]

Mhmm. I use my 60HE +7 hours a day

[regal hound]

Any wrist fatigue due to it being a case mount PCB?

Maybe they need a wrist rest 🤔😉

[sinful cliff]

Thank you Tirade!

[fresh jackal]

None. And my case is a degree more than the stock case at that. Though I do have the wristrest to go with it.

[regal hound]

Exactly my point. I'm using a 7 degree case ATM and have no issues. I do also use a wristest.

[pallid vessel]

Picture isn't great, and desk is pretty grubby, but got my 60he friday and threw it in the klippe T yesterday 🙂

[tawdry ivy]

man klippe t looks so clean, i wish the angle suited me a bit better

[exotic badger]

I wanted a red Klippe T so bad

I settled on ordering a Kylin 60 from Aliexpress instead

I hope it looks good

[novel wolf]

uxcell M2x5mm Phillips Screw... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082XXXRV6

[faint token]

How are you liking the Klippe T? Been looking at picking one up for mine. Were any modifications needed?

[gritty cave]

Thank you very much

[pallid vessel]

I like it a lot so far, stock case probably sounded a little better. I've got some kilmat coming because I couldn't get the stock case foam to work without hacking it up. No mods needed, dropped right in

[faint token]

@pallid vessel Good things to know, thanks for sharing your feedback!

[pallid vessel]

You bet!

[thorny ruin]

trifecta -> wooting, artisan, finalmeme

[silk moss]

@pallid vessel you didn't get the foam from mekanisk? they make a foam specifically for the klippe t

[pallid vessel]

Hmm I don't remember.. I'll have to take a look in the box

ohhh, it was an add on to the purchase. yeah I missed that, ordered on my phone at christmas dinner haha

[late jewel]

sweet, thanks

[fluid granite]

i think that foam is out of stock atm

[pallid vessel]

It is yeah

[misty rampart]

Im sure this has already been discussed, but the KBDfans website says the Tofu60 has been discontinued. The closest alternate seems to be the Freebird60 or the Klippe T. Anyone know any other good minimalist cases? Thanks in advance

[tawdry ivy]

You kind of named the two other popular ones

Maze64 is nice too but it only comes in a full kit

[misty rampart]

Is the Klippe T work the extra cost?

I got my 60HE last last week so just put on some blank caps. Excited to put this in an aluminum case.

[tawdry ivy]

i'd decide more based on angle than anything there, klippe t is i think 8 degrees? Freebird60 is 5 degrees, i think maze64 was like 6 degrees or similar