60he community modding

[naive rose]

Yeah thats much better worded lol ^^

[eternal silo]

i see

okay thanks for the info

@naive rose about the person who did 1.3mm, do you have any idea on which material they used?

[naive rose]

It was their stock plate

They measured it which I assume was just manufacting variance

But they could have just measured wrong

[pure root]

Has anyone actually tried the Mekanisk Klippe T? I see it still says "review requested" on it.

[naive rose]

If you really wanted to dampen the bottom out your only options are to gasket mount it with a custom (stiff material) plate or gummy o-ring mount it

But from experience even gasket mounted the typing experience is still very very stiff

[tired creek]

This is why I think gummy oring is the way to get the board feel to be less stiff. The PCB assembly is unchanged, therefore the board should would still work as expected.

[tired creek]

Any good sound changes with the brass plate?

[sterile cave]

I ment the case is wider than the PCB so if you did gimmy it the top and bottom would fit fine but I think it looks like theirs gonna be gaps on both sides from the right and left of the PCB and the case

The gk64 xs has a 65% layout while the wooting has a 60%

You put the wooting in and it would look like this red showing the gaps on the sides green is the size of the wooting

[eternal silo]

it's 60% though

the case is 60% there are tons of reviews on it

idk why the seller named it GK64XS but they did mention compatibility with DZ60

not sure about how compatible it is with the 60he

[oblique nymph]

Its a 60% layout

Its only called “64xs” because it has a different pcb layout compared to the regular 61 key 60% layout

[eternal silo]

do you think FR4 is stiff enough for the job?

[oblique nymph]

Most likely not

[exotic haven]

Will this case be compatible ?

[eternal silo]

what is stiffness calculated in again?

N/m? N/m² or what

nvm i can see why FR4 wouldn't work

damn that's a heavy drop it went from 190 to 27 lol

[oblique nymph]

Yes but you’d only have 2 screws holding the whole thing together lol

[exotic haven]

is that something bad ?

[oblique nymph]

Uhhh not really necessarily tbh

[eternal silo]

might aswell gummy o ring it

[oblique nymph]

I feel like the whole assembly will be wobbly on north and south press

Since theres only 2 things holding it together, unless those ridges around the case help too

[exotic haven]

ok i will try it with my AVR keyboard

and mantaint my arm on its case

to test it

Dunnno what is a gummy o ring mod

[eternal silo]

okay i found another 60 case, albeit $6 more expensive

do you guys think the standoffs are compatible with 60he?

is it

[neon condor]

Well metals tend to be stiff but eh FR4 may be enough imo

[oblique nymph]

Doesnt seem like it lol

[eternal silo]

pain

[oblique nymph]

Try find the wooting compatability thing

[eternal silo]

190 (default steel) to 27 (fr4) tho

thats a huge ass dropoff

[oblique nymph]

They have a list of compatible cases

[eternal silo]

ik

i would get a tofu60 acrylic

but these ones i found just now are like 400% cheaper

[neon condor]

Many cases don’t use steel but alumium and such

[exotic haven]

can i put the foam of the keyboard into the new case?

[oblique nymph]

We talking abt plates not cases

[neon condor]

• specific stiffness ≠ Young’s modulus

[oblique nymph]

Most likely

[neon condor]

Yes, even plates tend to be alumium, I think the wooting one is

[oblique nymph]

Nah its steel

Most people have confirmed its “solid steel”

[oblique nymph]

I know aluminium plates exist, ye

[eternal silo]

heres the young modulus chart for reference

[oblique nymph]

Realistically yoh shouldnt try below brass if you want the best result and consistency

[eternal silo]

fair

[oblique nymph]

Imo anything below would flex a little too much

[neon condor]

Idk, from what I could find it’s alumium

[feral siren]

Yis it's possible. Like any DZ60 case that doesn't have stand offs like built in, (aka stand off mounts that are screwed onto the board like the Blade60 or whatever else, TOFUs are screwed on too I think? Can't be sure), you could do a true gummy o-ring mount.

[oblique nymph]

Since it runs off like a 0.1mm distance or w/e

[neon condor]

Brass has same specific stiffness as FR4

So FR4 May work

[oblique nymph]

Gotta remember tho, fr4 plates come with flex cuts

Obviously if its custom made thats not an issue, however if you’re buying aftermarket fr4 plates a lot of them will come with the cuts

[eternal silo]

specific stiffness is about the sound

its different

[oblique nymph]

Just use a concrete plate

[neon condor]

Oh, looks like it’s steel for 60HE but alumium for two HE

[oblique nymph]

Yeahhh 60he is definitely steel

So maybe the 60he may work with aluminium

[neon condor]

I think it would

Since full size models do

[eternal silo]

the lower the specific stiffness the deeper the keyboard sounds

[oblique nymph]

I mean to be fair I do think since alu allows for more flex it might need to be thicker

And obviously with the plate needing to be a specific thickness

Its just a complicated process

[neon condor]

Steel is probably the safest option tbf

[oblique nymph]

I noticed someone trying custom gasket mount brass

No updates so far on what I’ve seen (?) but they did mention it was working fine for now

[eternal silo]

so for deepest sounds possible for now brass on the 60he

though for any other keyboard if you're planning to get brass plate, just get FR4 since the specific stiffness is pretty much the same

[oblique nymph]

I'm one to not even break apart the assembly apart from lubing switches tbh 🤣

[eternal silo]

you're gonna get the same sound profile for a much cheaper price

[oblique nymph]

case swap and lube thas all I gonna do

[eternal silo]

how would they do the gasket mount?

gummy o-ring or o-ring standoffs?

[naive rose]

Wooting stock plate is steel

[eternal silo]

also does anyone know wtf are those (white) circles on the 60he plate? can you pop those into holes for cases with different standoff locations?

[oblique nymph]

No idea

[naive rose]

Those are the weld points for the standoffs on the plate that the pcb screws into

[oblique nymph]

Scroll up, I didnt read everything properly

[naive rose]

You can't remove those without drilling it out

[eternal silo]

plate standoffs???

i dont understand

[pure root]

plate mounts down to PCB I think

[naive rose]

The silver stand offs are whats on the other side of those circles

They've been welded onto the plate

[exotic haven]

this case did not work

[oblique nymph]

no case method

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[pure root]

I've been thinking about trying this https://www.melgeek.com/products/melgeek-mojo60-aluminum-mechanical-keyboard-case-60-keyboard-chasis-melgeek-com

[exotic haven]

the holes for the screws were not alligned

[oblique nymph]

I dont think the melgeek stuff is tray mount is it

o it is

[pure root]

Yeah pretty sure it is

[oblique nymph]

it might work but that usb cutout seems very small

you might need to sand some off

[pure root]

On the inside of the case you mean
?

[tired creek]

The plate and PCB are screwed together

[eternal silo]

btw i found this dz60 brass plate for like a really cheap $13

is it compatible with 60he?

which brass plate r u currently using actually

[naive rose]

One I got laser cut specifically for this keyboard

[naive rose]

The screw holes will line up but 99% the stabilizer holes probably won't

Bc most dz60 plates are designed for screw in stabs but only plate mount are compatible with 60he

[exotic haven]

https://tiendamia.com/ar/producto?amz=B098N2C4R8&pName=GH60 Anodizing Aluminum CNC Case for 60% Mechanical Gaming Keyboard Compatible GK61x GK64x Pok3r (White)

Will this case be compatible?

It is for GH60 PCB,DZ60,YD60,XD60,Poker 1,Poker 3

[eternal silo]

ooh

how much did it cost

[eternal silo]

but so you still can plate mount the stabs right?

[naive rose]

$50 US for brass about half that for Alu

[naive rose]

If you buy a random plate that doesn't say plate mount stab supported then no

The cut outs for plate mount are much smaller than the cut outs for screw in

Which means plate mount stabs can't fit in a cut out made for screw in stabs

[eternal silo]

alright i'll check if it supports plate mounting or not

by the way, now that i think about it

would the gummy o ring mod fuck up the 60he's actuation?

or just gasket mounts in general

[naive rose]

No, gummy or gasket the entire plate - pcb assembly moves as one when compressed

The distance between the plate and the pcb itself stays fixed because of the spacers/standoffs

[eternal silo]

ah good as i thought

what does universal plates mean btw

can i just get a universal 60% brass plate and that would be compatible with 60he?

[mystic blaze]

it says only case but on youtube videos it's like pcb and plate is included?
there are even some with fully assambled kits with keycaps out of the box

[pure root]

@mystic blaze yeah, I've seen some of those videos. I think those were mostly special edition kits. If you click on a color on the link I provided it will show an empty case in the color you choose.

[regal anvil]

https://twitter.com/YNWA8th/status/1577237921463029760?t=PibLA-wyKtSysIGakq77Qg&s=19 puta madre...

YNWA🇺🇦 (@YNWA8th)

Wooting 60HEのカスタム完了。
かっこいい😎

@WootingKB

Twitter · Oct 4, 2022, 10:03 AM

[tired creek]

Is that a fjell 60HE?

[barren stag]

I have one aswell

Lubed and durock platemount stabs

E red fjell 60

Thin Dense foam and a thin silicone dampener

[barren stag]

.

[pure root]

@barren stag Looks great but, does the E-ultrahot look any different in person? I'm just wondering why they call it that or if it's super bright like the ultramarine I've seen

[barren stag]

its very light dependant, right now its very red

but in less light

it gets like a purpleish tone

[pure root]

OK thanks. I have GMK dark modo 2 with the red accents and it looks pretty close from the photo on the mekanisk site. But, I figured it probably looks different in person like the ultramarine

[barren stag]

yea its that red in white light

[eternal silo]

@naive rose @oblique nymph btw, if i found a case where everything else is compatible with the 60he, except for the standoffs, can i just make my own standoffs?

[fresh jackal]

That USB hole doesn't look like it matches up either tbh.

[eternal silo]

maybe with the small o-rings or by literally cutting off and super gluing the old standoffs to the desired locations

[eternal silo]

oh yeah fuck the acrylic isnt compatible, only the other ones

😔

[fresh jackal]

Isn't there an acryllic tofy you can just sand to frost?

[eternal silo]

too exp (im in debt)

for this cheap one tho it looks like i can make a custom order actually

so i guess my day's saved afterall

[eternal silo]

what is the 60he's standoffs based off of again? GH60?

[fresh jackal]

GH60/DZ60

[eternal silo]

DZ60 has different standoffs

or atleast rev 3 has

but yeah GH looks about the same

[naive rose]

It's a $200 keyboard, I don't really see the point in rushing to get it into a super budget case

[fresh jackal]

Whatever you prefer visually.

[heady flicker]

I just wait for wooting case :3

It's gonna be the best so why waste money on others?!

[naive rose]

Yeah but if you're having to heavily mod the case you're probably better off just waiting until you have the budget for a tofu

[fresh jackal]

To each their own. I don't regret it.

[naive rose]

Oh by all means, your set up is great

I was more referring to Fynns conundrum over cases

[regal anvil]

Sound test 👀

[fresh jackal]

Pretty sure they're in #996573707235491950 a ways up.

[oblique nymph]

What case is this?

Digging the retro style

[fresh jackal]

Bbox. I have both this, the C64 version and the Cyberspace one.

(which is transparent atomic purple)

[oblique nymph]

Ohhhh yeah I saw the purple one

[regal anvil]

Wait. Is the lekker switch technically a long pole switch?

[oblique nymph]

Ibm style sleeper build😄

[fresh jackal]

Of the era at least.

[sterile cave]

Loving my build 👌

[oblique nymph]

Yeah that’s what I meant, retro sleeper build

[abstract creek]

As in Commodore 64?

[eternal silo]

good news

the case im getting albeit is cheap, is actually preordered straight from the manufacturer

so i did get mine compatible with GH60 (custom order)

now i can chase my dreams of putting 137 mods on my 60he and starting a forest fire

[pure root]

Wooting is doing their own case?

I stumbled on this company that offers custom cerakote Tofu 60 https://keebstuff.com/collections/build-to-order/products/custom-tofu60

[undone dragon]

what case sir? looks very clean

[tired creek]

Thick pole

The Lekker switch doesn't really compare to regular MX style, it's in its own category

[sterile cave]

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[pine path]

@eternal silo why don’t you look for the acrylic tofu60 case?

https://divinikey.com/products/kbdfans-tofu-60-case?variant=39278194196545

[eternal silo]

as i mentioned earlier im running outta money

and besides i get to precustomize this one

[boreal pollen]

loved this color gradient for the wooting60he
-Lubed
-50g springs
-double-case foamed
-blue-white PBT keycaps
-burger-mounted
-tape-mod

(of course 90% of the mod isn't visible)

[oblique nymph]

How do you feel about the spring swap?

I’m contemplating on upgrading my order for the extra springs since I’m lubing switches anyway

[regal anvil]

Might gummy Oring the 60HE 😳

Looks tempting af

Fjell came in and it weighs a brick

[tired creek]

Are the standoffs preinstalled?

[regal anvil]

Wym standoffs

[fresh jackal]

Those funny little things you screw the PCB into.

[regal anvil]

Oh, nope

Case only

[fresh jackal]

So do they come included? How do you actually mount a PCB 😄

[regal anvil]

OH oops, yes standoffs are pre-installed

[regal anvil]

Screws are provided and I've tested it on my id75 pcb

[tired creek]

Ah ok

[regal anvil]

Endgame ortholinear

Shit video but ignore missing caps as the id75 is my tester board

[tired creek]

I'm still on the hunt for a GH60 case with removable standoffs for gummy oring.

Blade60 is ok, but need to put something along the outside to prevent the PCB assembly from hitting bottom

Bladr60 is hard to get, and has same problem as Blade60

Fjell would be perfect if you can remove the standoffs. It has those "holders" on the top side

[regal anvil]

Why not just fucc it and do it andy Nguyen style,

[fresh jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-you-what-huh-gif-19676334

[tired creek]

Andy Nguyen style?

[regal anvil]

https://youtu.be/Os1DR0u9VKk

[tired creek]

Can't tell what he did based on this video

It's probably burger mount which I think Keybored came up with

Still a very stiff board feel

[regal anvil]

I mean true, cause yknow, foam is supporting the entire pcb and there's technically no flex besides the foam " cushioning the impact "

Gigachad keeb coming in April perha🅱️s

[fresh jackal]

The PCBA needs to be stiff due to the sensors, everything below (i.e. PCBA on standoffs) is a lot more flexible.

[tired creek]

That's why I'm pursuing gummy oring. The whole PCB assembly will be moving as one unit instead of sections pivoting on top of a standoff

[eternal silo]

wait so gummy o ring mounts are not possible without standoffs being removed?

[tired creek]

Standoffs will be poking the back of the PCB

[eternal silo]

ah i see

since gummy o-ring would make it flexible

the center standoffs would be poking the pcb

did i get it right?

[tired creek]

Yeah, the standoffs are bigger than the holes on the PCB

[eternal silo]

also is it possible to manually cut standoffs off the case?

i ordered a case with gh60/tofu60 format, although i will only be using the 4 outer standoffs, i was too late to tell the manufacturer to remove the center ones

bro

[tired creek]

Yeah, but trying to avoid

[eternal silo]

@tired creek i just asked the manu turns out the case im ordering has removable standoffs lol

dude

[tired creek]

Nice, just screw-in?

[eternal silo]

unfortunately its like a local brand

the brand is Terascape

[fresh jackal]

Snip snip. If the center peg matches up, then you don't need to remove it

[eternal silo]

wdym

[tired creek]

You still need something to hold up the oring
Maybe uhmwpe (plastic) tape

On the outer edge

[eternal silo]

btw yeah its local brand so unless you're living in indonesia i doubt it has sellers globally

[eternal silo]

can you send me an image

[tired creek]

Doesn't have to be this. You need something that will hold up the oring, but thin enough that it doesn't hit the PCB

This is basically plastic strip that has glue on one side

[eternal silo]

well yeah but i don't wanna connect it to the center standoff because i want a bit of flex in there

[fresh jackal]

You do you. If it's soldered onto the case then you'll need some tools of course 😄

[eternal silo]

no i mean can you send me an image of this implementation of the tape holding up the o-ring? i still haven't quite understood it 😅

[eternal silo]

nah the manu said it was easily detachable so dw

although im not sure about what it means, i literally have 0 keyboard experience

are there such things as hotswappable standoffs? 👀

[fresh jackal]

I mean in theory? You could make a standoff peg that has threads on the underside as well, so you screw it into the case.

My BBOX cases had extenders to screw into/onto the brass threads inset to the plastic.

Basically the difference between mounting my PCB inset into the case or flush for a higher PCB position.

[tired creek]

Here's a Bakeneko60 for example

[tired creek]

Cut-outs in the PCB to match, so those circled parts only contact the oring

Wooting PCB doesn't have cutouts, so you need to use something thin

[tall aurora]

can anyone confirm that the freebird60 is compatible?

[fresh jackal]

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

Seems so, yes

It might flex a little bit on the spacebar since it only uses four standoffs though

[tall aurora]

ok, was just a little worried cause a few months ago people were saying it wasnt

[fresh jackal]

https://twitter.com/xaizone

Doing a quick google, and this person on Twitter apparently did it? You could send them a tweet and ask what the experience is like.

[oblique nymph]

There’s lots of people who’s done it iirc

Compatability shouldn’t be an issue

[tall aurora]

great! thanks for the quick responses :>

[oblique nymph]

Think of it as the tofu60 without the harsh alphas

Since it doesn’t have the center standoffs

[zinc ice]

Got the same case
Did u post a sound test?

[regal anvil]

Oh btw, different keyboard but whatevs, will the wooting2 HE have any standalone plates for case swapping? @fresh jackal

[fresh jackal]

I doubt it? We don't offer plates to the 60HE either, and it has the benefit of being part of a standard.

Nothing stopping you from making your own I suppose. Just make sure it's very inflexible - We're using hard metal plates for a reason.

[regal anvil]

Cause it is a high profile keeb and I'd switch the plate so that it can fit to other tray mount 110%s

Yessir, just wondering if y'all will sell it separately to prevent "flex-interference"

For the wooting2HE plate

[fresh jackal]

Doubt it.

[regal anvil]

Lfg, if that's the case, might custom one for a big streamer, cheater style

[prisma rover]

What does the tape mod do?

[fresh jackal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6poF-Z0ajhE

FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK

[prisma rover]

Is it worth lol

[fresh jackal]

Watch the video and find out.

[prisma rover]

The sound still the same

[final python]

@fresh jackalmy keycap arrived. i have 2 more custom keycaps to arrive and i ordered 6 different keycap sets and i have 3 keycap sets at home. im rdy for wooting. i did one custom keycap just in honor of u

[fresh jackal]

[final python]

I hope Tandpasta will ship within December

I would be so happy

[sterile cave]

Did 5-6 layers on my wooting build sound fat and thocc

[white sundial]

could you record sound and upload here? 😄

[sterile cave]

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[storm sage]

am I crazy or is lubing these switches not making a huge difference?

im comparing by ear and I can still hear spring ping even when lubed

[storm sage]

nvm, lubing top housing makes the biggest difference

[white sundial]

thanks, that sounds wonderfull!!!! 😄

[regal anvil]

My goodness the spacebar got that slight fjell holy panda pitch

[mystic blaze]

there were some annoying keys with rattling sounds on my 60he and I tried dialectic grease on the top housing for those (really small though barely visible) - and it helped some - kindly fyi

[jovial sorrel]

So just got my board in. Waiting till fall break ends then I can put the rest of the keycap set back on. Still need to lube and tape mod, but brass plate mod and silicone pour with durock stabs ftw

[eternal silo]

did brass plate fuck up the actuation? also was it CNC'ed/lasered or did you buy it somewhere

also has anyone tried FR4 yet?

[jovial sorrel]

@eternal silo no issues here. I got a file from a fellow member and had laserboost laser it

[strange torrent]

Hey guys, I have a Tofu case, and was wondering if I need to remove the middle stand off in the case to put the wooting PCB in?

[fresh jackal]

The 60HE PCB has a void where the center peg goes.

[strange torrent]

Okay so that means I don't need to worry about dremeling it away

just ignore

[fast basin]

This is my first custom ever, THANK YOU WOOTING!

[sterile cave]

Not bad da decent caps do help with the sound

[fast basin]

its so much quieter in person, i used mlv for the inside. helped the pingy sound from the tofu a ton.

[eternal silo]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_modulus

does anyone know why say like 1.5mm steel plate won't mess up wooting's actuation while 1.5mm PC plate would?

whats different from the two of them? is it density? specific strength? specific stiffness?

[feral siren]

Multi key input scenario + flex = deviations

[eternal silo]

?

i just need this

[feral siren]

Both

No stiffness = flex, flex = deviations in actuation distance and switch distance from pcb while pressing multiple keys or causing any flex

= bad

[eternal silo]

okay nvm it's the Y modulus

[frosty scarab]

Is anyone able to help me with a case suggestion?

Long story short I hate tall/high keyboards. The typing angle of the original case i've gotten use to and like it quiet a bit. I have a low profile tofu60 which when its flat the board is actually higher up slightly in the front causing more strain on my write and with feet its higher up all together and has a higher typing angle

I know the normal tofu60 has a higher typing angle from the normal case as well but does anyone know if the pcb sits higher?

I'm basically trying to find a slim/sleek case like the tofu60 where the tpying angle and pcb hight is the same or very close

apologies if this isnt the best description im still new to keyboard modding that isnt ergomech keyboard

[dense shuttle]

Just got my wooting yesterday. Lubed and tape mod. Love this keyboard!

[eternal silo]

W

[spiral hearth]

What the consensus here on number of layers of tape for a tape mod on the 60he?

[onyx schooner]

I wonder if these would work with the hall effect sensors or screw them up... https://www.amazon.com/Fitlink-Stainless-Mechanical-Compatible-Keyboard/dp/B07Y1RV56R

[fresh jackal]

Zero as far as Sander's video goes. No noticeable difference

[eternal silo]

someone please attempt a build with an fr4 plate and tell us how it goes

so far brass has been successful

my attention has been caught

[mystic blaze]

why aren't you that someone? we can learn from your experiences 🙂

[eternal silo]

because im 16 and my parents are strict af, i cant just buy stuff freely, nor do i have a job

hell i cant even mod a 60he because there was no 60he to begin with, am still saving rn

so it would be appreciated if another "someone" does it for "all of us" (totally not for my own personal gain only)

[mystic blaze]

no need to get all worked up 🙂

[eternal silo]

im not lmao chill

[fresh jackal]

I mean...

[spiral hearth]

Wouldn’t it be affected by other case materials too though? I’m doing a Tofu (aluminum) swap

[fresh jackal]

One way to find out - and really fast too.

[spiral hearth]

Alright I’ll be the guinea pig and report back. 60he should be here Monday. I’ll try to do it by mid week

Just figured somebody here might have tried it already

[eternal silo]

checkout badseed's video

he did a build with the aluminium tofu

[spiral hearth]

that was actually the impetus for this. In the Tofu I feel like there is a noticeable difference and I like the sound profile with the Tape Mod. he just doesn't mention how many layers. I'll probably do 2 or 3 but was curious if others have tested multiple layers

I'm probably going to follow his mods (Wooting case foam, burger mount, lubed switches, and tape mod)

[fast basin]

Tofu60, Lubed switches, lubed and tape in stabilizers, oring/washer mount, 3 layers tape, and mlv in the case for dampening. Have fun modding!

[spiral hearth]

thanks

[eternal silo]

to be fair, sander's video on the tape mod used the default plastic case, so while tape mod didn't change much on the plastic case it probably does on the alu tofu

[spiral hearth]

I usually go with frog tape

[eternal silo]

whats the difference

[spiral hearth]

Frog tape is a painters tape but it’s a little bit thicker.

[wary mango]

is there any reason we couldn't apply a thicker tape like electrical tape or duct tape after applying a layer of painter's tape?

that way we wouldn't have residue left over

[white sundial]

anyone who has the tofu frosted case and could share a pic how the led looks through it with the wooting? 😄

absolutely in love with this acrylic case

[eternal silo]

based

acrylic cases are underrated

especially the one where you essentially spray paint most of the acrylic case except the bottom, leaving it looking like a solid case with backlight (if you have rgb)

[fresh jackal]

Don't expect much. That case relies on LEDs shining into the case which isn't really what happens with the 60HE

[somber jackal]

first time lubing 👀

[final python]

good luck 😂 i remember first time it took 5h

[final python]

thats why i ordered the black one

[somber jackal]

finally done, took me 6h or more lol

[restive thorn]

looks nice 😄

[white sundial]

ooh okay, personally I think it looks kinda cool even without the led with just the frosty white look!

[mystic blaze]

gentleman keycaps + black maze64 case really worked out well - and the artisan made a delicious touch

[regal anvil]

Keycaps giving me gmk dualshot vibes fr

[sonic socket]

hey, what pudding keycaps are used here?

[mystic blaze]

also glorious stealth keycaps 🙂

[dim pier]

thats the now dead 60he?

[fresh jackal]

No that's still sitting at @hybrid rapids I think. Jeroen hasn't had a chance to look at it yet. This is your 60HE 😄

[dim pier]

oh

wait did u even get to lubing the broken one?

[fresh jackal]

It was DOA (or dead within 5mins of receiving) so no. 🙂

[dim pier]

ah

if you did lube the dead one id have asked why youd torture yourself twice

[fresh jackal]

I don't mind - It just takes time, but I can watch something and do it "brain off"

Used to collect Warhammer so it's a muscle memory thing.

[dim pier]

i still havent painted my warhammer minis

maybe thats what i should do when i plan to lube it paint warhammer minis on the side so its not boring

[sonic walrus]

HyperX

[dense shuttle]

So I ended up putting the original case foam into the walnut. Overall the acoustics are nice. Not too hollow.

[spiral hearth]

Just finished my Tofu swap. Ready to rock n roll now.

[mystic blaze]

you are lucky,
my wooden 65% bottom is not straight... it's lower on the left side and it annoys me as hell

[jovial sorrel]

Finally lubed the switches, better sounding than my old holy pandas

[white sundial]

sounds great!!!

[flat eagle]

Folks who have nice customs and have modded the 60he, how have you liked the typing / sound? Just got my 60he and obviously compared to my custom its a little disappointing - will manually lubing / tape / more foam / case switch really elevate the sound & feel?

[jovial sorrel]

just listen to my video

thats tape mod 2 layers, burger mount o ring, bandaid mod on stab pads, durock stabs lubbed switches

and then I filled with silicone instead of doing foam, and used a brass plate

[eternal silo]

where did you get your brass plate from

also were u using 50cn springs?

btw is that the default plastic case?

[jovial sorrel]

Alipow resin case black, laserboost, stock 60s @eternal silo

[eternal silo]

how much did the laserboost cost?

[jovial sorrel]

Like 60

[eternal silo]

does the sound change much from the default steel plate the wooting came with?

[jovial sorrel]

Idk didnt try it

[ocean dust]

doesnt changing the plate cause problems with the analog switches ?

[eternal silo]

there's a tolerance for difference on stiffness to a certain extent

so far there has been 2 builds with brass plate

the first one by someone else had no problems with actuation points

not sure about Jaywire's

[jovial sorrel]

Mine doesnt

[long lion]

This is easily one of my favorite purchases ever

For computers

[long lion]

This is exactly what I'm doing

Like right now

Any tips for getting out the switches?

[ocean dust]

idk try pulling them out 😮‍💨

[polar cliff]

its so good sounding after lube and some mods

[normal marsh]

Pulllllllll

[feral siren]

whoa and i took that personally. xD

[long lion]

All the o rings First try let's go.

[hybrid rapids]

Couldn't you just slide the o-ring onto the screw?

oh snap or is that the one under the PCBA

[long lion]

Under 👌

When you get just about done, ready to do a victory lap, and then you see this

[frozen basin]

Will.i.am#2000 has been warned

Reason: Mass emoji

[long lion]

😂😭

The trick is a tiny bit of grease on the oring to hold it in place. You could put the screw through prior but I found this easy

[fast basin]

added more lube to stabs - hows it sound?

[keen sundial]

sounds really good! @fast basin

[fast basin]

thanks! it was my first custom, and im pretty happy with the results. waited a long time to get that set up.

[long lion]

I think I could've hit the stabs a little better but overall I'm really happy

Tofu60, poured silicon base, burger oring mount, fully lubed. I had bandage mod on the stabs but they literally wouldn't work so I took them off.

[eternal silo]

great to hear :D

this is gonna be my first custom aswell (and i hope the last one too)

i have like 60 mods i wanna put in it's kinda ambitious ngl

[eternal silo]

eh why not foam?

[long lion]

Silicon better

It's denser to dampen sound

Plus it was fun

[fast basin]

yea for the tofu60 i was really worried about the potential pingy noise…but id highly recommend using mass loaded vinyl over foam. that stuff really kills the ping.

[eternal silo]

i've heard MLV and holy fuck that is hot

sad that it's kinda expensive tho

i would've put an MLV in mine

[jovial sorrel]

@eternal silo here is the file for the plate

[long lion]

Silicon also works great, essentially the entire space is filled, the pcba is partially dug into the silicon itself, and 🍔 mount with o rings.

Really happy with how it turned out, crappy phone mic doesn't do it justice sadly

I saw yours too, sounds really good. No ping 👍

You might even be able to squish the foam in there too but it would've been TIGHT in there

Might try it sometime tho

[abstract creek]

What wrist rest is that?

[storm sage]

Is there a specific thickness I'd need for a custom 60HE plate?

Putting this in a Fjell definitely made the spacebar sound a bit better, but the sound is limited by the included plate I believe.

[long lion]

The wooting one, is really nice actually

[fast basin]

Yours sounded great too! I had some foam from stupidfish and I definitely tried to squish it in but there wasnt any room. The MLV i had was the perfect thickness, right at the tolerance threshold to be able to get the usb lined up with no issues.

[storm sage]

that means you are gonna need 8x 3.5mm height spacer to screwed with PCB.

What do you mean by this? I would like to try getting a custom plate created but came across this message when searching through the discord and it sounds like we need some specific spacers?

So for example if I were to get a FR4 or Aluminum plate cut that is 1.5mm thickness, could I essentially "plug and play" the switches or would I need these mentioned spacers?

[eternal silo]

would FR4 work?

[eternal silo]

not sure if FR4 would work due to low stiffness but iirc you could just 3d print the 60he plate file

or cnc/laser whatever

i think the specific spacers was if you were to buy a third-party 1.5mm plate instead of 3d printing/lasering your own

[storm sage]

Welp it's worth a shot anyway. The case swap made a big difference in sound but im looking for a plate swap to see if it makes the keyboard sound great

[eternal silo]

yeah please do

i've been looking forward for someone to test an fr4 plate on the 60he since apparently a brass plate worked flawlessly on it

[storm sage]

Done will report back here once the plate comes in

[sterile cave]

bro just tighten the PCB and plate and . Ur fine

At most you mess up a 1.0mm at most with pads if you don't tighten pads with PCB and pad

I formation is still relevant

[eternal silo]

fuck it

at this point someone please go try printing a PC one lmao

[final python]

silicon is selfmade no?

[sturdy night]

I tried to burger mount mine but couldnt align the side screw well enough and couldn't be bothered w the 5th xD so only 2 screws in 😭

Idk how you all managed to pull off a burger mount so easy, I struggled 😭

[rare rapids]

I just chucked my HE60 in a tofu case and ordered some car dampening foam, should I mess with the stabs?

currently I'm just reusing the old foam

spacebar seems a bit wack

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152769210823

[autumn tiger]

I'm designing a custom case for my wooting 60HE. But it hasn't arrived yet, so I just wanna know: is it possible to connect a standard daughter board to it? Maybe if you make a custom connector or something.

[minor wave]

Bois how many of u are running the Maze64 case?

[hybrid rapids]

No connector for daughter board. UsbC is straight on the PCBA.

Im going to take a look if it’s possible to have both on the PCBA, but that just be an idea for future iterations.

[autumn tiger]

@hybrid rapidsAnd you can't do something else, like making a usb-c male connector for the daughterboard input? (swap the JST for a with a usb-c male) or that will probably mess up the signal

[hybrid rapids]

If I’m right it’s both soldered and glued to ensure durability. In addition to how it’s positioned, I’m doubtful you’d be able to easily mod it around

Oh a male converter would probably take too much width and not fit in your case anymore

Unless you make awkwardly large width board

I.e. C port stick out so it aligned with case port opening

[autumn tiger]

If I get the components (without all the plastic and rubber) I think I can make it pretty small. And there will also be some space to play around with in the case. Do you think the signal will get messed up if it first goes through the daughter board and then straight in to the PCB?

Solder the 4 wires from the DB to a connector like this

[long lion]

yes, mixed and poured. took about overnight to cure.

[long lion]

i did it 5 times actually. i had to take it on and off because my bandage mod made the stabilizers not work so i kept having to open it.

[sturdy night]

I didnt have the patience xD

[long lion]

the trick was that i dipped each oring into a tiny bit of grease

[sturdy night]

gonna redo it when I lube the switches though

[long lion]

and then stuck it to the standoff

[sturdy night]

ooooh thats smart

[long lion]

then very carefully drop it on one side, then lower it down

you should first try it now.

it is extremely forgiving and easy.

[sturdy night]

I'll try when its light lmao

think I dropped one of the orings on my gray carpet somewhere so never finding that one again

[long lion]

i think only the spacebar needs to be messed with. the others sound pretty good

Overall, the way this keyboard sounds and feels to type on is absolutely mind blowing considering this is essentially a gaming focused keyboard.

Cellphone mics dont do them any justice imo

I knew i'd like the keyboard and had high expectations for it, and yet, somehow it has exceeded even my highest

[viral tinsel]

hey guys got a question does anyone have the 60he with acrylic case and can send a picture? :) I was hoping you could see the light of the stock 60he through it

[final python]

trust me u don't want acrylic.

[viral tinsel]

ow why not?

[final python]

terrible idea. 1st: they made for underglow, which 60he does NOT have and 2nd: their sound is not good

[viral tinsel]

just so you know im not a sound guy for me its about looks haha

[final python]

ye

looks

[viral tinsel]

ooow

[final python]

lookwise not good

[viral tinsel]

underglow doesnt work

mmh

fair

[final python]

i prob saved u couple bucks

np 🙂

[viral tinsel]

Thnx

[rare rapids]

does it just need lube or other mods?

[long lion]

honestly couldnt say. i think lube is the most important, but in the minimum i'd look at tape mod.

i did not test it in any other configurations except stock and how i have it.

lube + tape mod should be good enough

[rare rapids]

in wooting's own video tape did literally nothing

unless you mean the thing with tiny bits of plaster inside the stab

[long lion]

badseed did a bunch of different things and tape sounded great

but he swapped the case

[pine path]

full copium! my wooting is underway and il receive it tomorrow! this weekend wil be customize time!

[rare rapids]

has anyone else here used automotive dampener in their keyboard before?

[pine path]

didnt he also do a burger mount mod?

[rare rapids]

I don't see how the screws can have enough length with all that oring in the way

[long lion]

i can definitely hear the difference in this video from wooting

[rare rapids]

is standard masking tape fine?

is it to dissipate reflections or more just a boundary layer for contact points?

[long lion]

should be. i think its subjective

i saw someone suggesting packing tape

which is basically masking tape

but thicker

[minor wave]

Given how power hungry the wooting keebs are i think it's a matter of how reliable will the jst cable be with the data and power

[autumn tiger]

Yeah true, that's also a concern

[tired creek]

The point of the tape is to affect the sound.
People mainly use painters tape or masking tape so it doesn't leave residue on the bottom of the PCB if you want to remove it later.

Idk what kind of tape they used in the Wooting video, but I agree that it didn't change much

[fresh jackal]

The one Sander made for our youtube channel? That's just painter's tape.

[tired creek]

It looked partially transparent

Painters tape is normally thick and completely opaque

[fresh jackal]

Not the stuff I have.

Mine's blue and a bit more opaque, But I can easily see things through it.

[tired creek]

I guess it could be because it's yellow in the video. You can clearly see the bottom of the PCB through a single layer

[hybrid rapids]

It’s a @mystic veldt question from here on

[minor wave]

Would he sacrifice a pcb tho?

[sturdy night]

I only have the slightly see-through pasticy brown tape

[hazy sentinel]

is there a channel for specifically modded 60he keyboards? i saw the wootstations channel but thats more of an overall setup rather than the keyboard itself

[fresh jackal]

You're in it - Scroll up or search for images and you've got a ton 🙂

[hazy sentinel]

hmm

will there ever be an option to buy the PCB and switches alone? i love the feature set and the switches but ill be modding it with a new case and keycap set anyways

[minor wave]

Mansen... how tall is your 60HE case at the front?

[fresh jackal]

Let's see... 25mm

And... 37mm or so at the back.

[minor wave]

Not as bad as I expected

Looks very chonky in pictures

[fresh jackal]

The wristrest definitely helps.

Almost flush.

[minor wave]

Fair play

I will most likely move it to a maze64 case

[hazy sentinel]

silly question:
when picking out the foam for a keyboard, should i be looking for comparisons based on the keyboard case?

[gentle kernel]

Would a GH60 Case (11.81 x 4.33 x 0.79 inches) fit the Wooting 60HE (11.89 x 4.53 x 1.5 inches)?

[fresh jackal]

GH60 and DZ60 are what we designed the keyboard on.

https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[mystic veldt]

Worth a shot if you twist the data lines and try to keep the lines short. Should be fine

[autumn tiger]

Thank you, I'll give it a try👍

[serene leaf]

what case and where did you get the silicon?

[wary mango]

Yes, put some in with a GK61 that I'm going to use the case with for my 60HE

It definitely mutes out case ping but I can't speak for comparisons with other materials

[simple dune]

Finally finished it wooting 60HE in a mekanisk fjell with GMK norse and custom ordered wrist rest from etsy.
Note1: I'm new to this so don't really know what i'm doing, any suggestions? 🙂
Note2: I tryed to both tape mod and use the foam from the original case, but the Fjell didn't have room for that

[long lion]

Tofu 60 and amazon. Posted the url

Miraclekoo Silicone Mold Making... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07XKBJWKH?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

[long lion]

Dang sick layout

[soft fulcrum]

Hey Guys, I just pre-ordered my Wooting 60 HE and I really want a nice case like the Tofu 60 for it. Do you have any suggestions where I can get one, or an Alternative? Since I am from Germany it’s not that easy to find. Does anyone know a good online store which sends to Europe?

[mystic blaze]

candykeys - aliexpress - eloquentclicks

I bought maze64 - with shipping it was 134€ but it had pcb and plate too so I used that pcb on wooting case

and here you can find the confirmed cases for 60he
https://wooting-technologies.notion.site/de7a52e2b5a941258a17e448b0c9d9b0?v=5ec0b31c59db4a51b8a86a1288249e9f

[white sundial]

that looks amazing!!!

[thorny ruin]

Wooting 60HE
GMK Muted R2 + Mr Sleeves
A60 Case

Bag lubed springs and stems, first time doing it like that. I swapped out the OG stabs for TX stabs which are not released in the west yet. Stabs are 100% perfect, as good as my regular MX customs :)

[quick eagle]

How do I get a sticker like that?

[thorny ruin]

buying a peeker

a lot of small stores sell them

[red quest]

Oh? TX plate mounts?

[thorny ruin]

Sounds okayish

[frigid crypt]

If you are going to make your own plate, then you need some support between the plate and PCB, usually using a spacer, and the distance between plate and PCB is 3.5mm, that’s the reason.
But, in theory you can also plug and play without the spacer in between, but the whole module will not be stable as our steel plate

[frigid crypt]

Yes, it should work, but like I said above, you might need the spacer to fix the plate and the PCB due to you don’t have any stand-off on the fr4 plate

[feral siren]

I am starting to feel that swapping plates won't get at the true 'issue' of the Lekker swithc sound profile

the distinct lack of a center stem stab.

It kind of poopoos on most known sound profile/builds, and you really have to go at it in a completely different way

[uncut surge]

I am thinking about ordering a custom 4.75mm HDPE plate from here:https://p3dstore.com/collections/plates-and-foam/products/switch-plates
My logic is the thickness of the plate will makes have less flex while still providing a lower pitched sound.
Is there any obvious reason that this won't work?

[feral siren]

uhm how much thicker is that plate compared to the standard plate thickness?

Are you gonna uswe shorter/standoffs to compensate?

[uncut surge]

It is about 3.25mm thicker, so there will be a very small gap left between the plate and the pcb.
I do plan to use standoffs, but am not sure if it is possible.

[feral siren]

You gotta find something to use between standoffs and the pcb

Or it’d get too flexxy

Or plate might even loosen off the board eventually these are exactly disposable switches you’d want to be gentle about putting g too much pressure on them to keep things held together

[uncut surge]

Don't know if it's possible to sand this down so it can fit:https://kbdfans.com/products/kbdfans-m2-3-countersunk-flat-head-screw-kit

[storm sage]

Promise I looked through discord extensively so maybe my searching skills just suck, but where would I find these spacers? Thank you btw

I have a couple other boards that came with a "hotswap pcb" spacer that locks the plate and pcb together, I'm assuming it would be something similar to that?

Did your cuistom plate include those holes using the dxf file on github, or did you make a custom file?

[frigid crypt]

Yes, that should be doable, we didn’t include the spacer due to there are too many variations on the marks even using same spec (M2 thread)

[frigid crypt]

Don’t need to sand it, the M2-3.5 copper nickel plating screw post is the M2x3.5 spacer, it just different wording

[eternal silo]

can i just 3d print the 60he plate dxf file and not have to worry about the spacers? (does the dxf file include the spacers/places for the stand-offs aswell?)

[thorny ruin]

just upload it to Google drive to view the model

[sonic socket]

is it safe to remove the stabilizers while the keyboard is still in-tact? I would want to grease them up a bit

[pine path]

First custom build ever.

• tofu case
• akko los Angeles key caps
• Tape mod
• Foam in case
• Lubed 50g spring switches

[mystic blaze]

definitely - they all sound different in the first place
I tried putting dialectic grease on the sides of the top housing - it helps a bit - but still

[upper mist]

Looks like the Half Life colors

[fresh jackal]

Hazard suit noises

[eternal silo]

yo can you tell me how was the 50g spring compared to 60g.
did you prefer it better? does it sound lighter?

[pine path]

I instantly removed the 60g springs so i cant give a proper opinion.

I came from a 60g spring keyboard but i like this more as my previous

[hazy sentinel]

Hi, whats the case

[mystic blaze]

blade60

[cobalt ivy]

hello, has anyone tried this mounting method? https://youtu.be/wDIHyqbTC3Q
sounds like it worked great for freebird60

[mystic blaze]

it sounds reall nice
but I don't think you can get lekker switches to sound like that 😄

[frigid crypt]

You need a STL file to do the 3D print, so can not just use the dxf to do the 3D print, and the dxt does not include the space, but we do indicate the position for those stand off

[thorny ruin]

yes

[cobalt ivy]

still, I'd take any improvement 😄 and this sounds like closer to a gasket mount sound without a custom plate

[eternal silo]

i don't get what's demonstrated in the video. did he literally just cut pieces of foam and use them to support the pcb?

[mystic blaze]

the problem is the usb-c slot... if there is flex always, it will eventually damage the connection.
cos with the tray mounts - there is not enough room for usbc to move around and always pushing it

[analog gyro]

hey, hows the tofu case height without wrist rest? thinking of getting one but not use to using such high profile keybaords for gaming

[proper robin]

I have no trouble with it

[proper robin]

think the fact that the keeb is so small helps with it a bunch

[tepid urchin]

You should really lube your springs. I would recommend lubing the top housings too.

[cobalt ivy]

I think he used d65 gaskets to do that

[fast basin]

I had a low profile board and switched to tofu…it took maybe two days of use for me to reprogram my muscle memory - i definitely noticed it, but its smooth sailing now.

[sturdy night]

yeah I still need to, but mines pingy af

[mystic blaze]

top housing with dialectic grease...

[thorny ruin]

dielectric grease is not recommended for switches since it will harden over time. For stabs its fine since you can clean stabs much easier than switches. I would always either use 205g0 or 3204/3203 for switches.

[mystic blaze]

hmm... so would you recommend cleaning it?
it's only on the top housing though and really helped with the rattling - sound?

[fast basin]

doesnt your switch feel mushy?

[mystic blaze]

I just did it to top housing - no it doesn't

[thorny ruin]

idk, viscosity of your dielectric grease depends a lot on your ambient temperature. at least how fast it will change viscosity. it will definitely harden over time though. I have a custom board from 2017 and the stabs were basically unusable and after building over 50 custom keyboards I can assure you that 205g0 and the likes are the way to go

[mystic blaze]

it's the permatex
didn't know that...

[mystic blaze]

that rubber keycaps are easily getting bad btw
I had orange ones and wasd got yellow 1 week playing seldomly 🙂

[zinc ice]

ye, i cleaned them and they deteriorated fast

but i got them for a year now

[past eagle]

Question for the people with the tofu60. Does the tofu make the keyboard sound louder or more quiet?

[tepid urchin]

Depends

How much foam you use

If you want it louder leave out the plate foam

If you want it quieter add some of the wooting foam to the bottom

[past eagle]

compared to my custom build is is relatively loud and i was looking for way to make it sound a little more quiet. I don't consider lubing because in most videos i found online it made no difference since the factory lube is already really good. And from what i saw the tofu changes the sound type in a way that it is hard to say its louder or just a different pitch

I would consider reusing the foam and just make a few cuts so it would fit with the tofu. But i was wondering if the aluminium case would dampen the sound or just amplify it even with the foam

[muted birch]

I did this at work today

[tepid urchin]

Lubing makes a really big difference (especially with the springs).

[thorny ruin]

is the steel plate necessary for the switches to work? for my taste SS plates tend to sound a lot worse than other materials. I'd like to try FR4, Alu or POM.

for the standoffs I could use this, I also used this for a custom topre keyboard:

[fierce ether]

might work if you can screw in from both sides

[abstract timber]

anyone know if gmk keycaps will fit?

[thorny ruin]

yes they do

just flip the switches by 180˚

[fresh jackal]

Yep. But as Maybe mentions if they scratch against each other you'd need a switch puller to pull out and south face all of the switches.

Wasn't a problem with my XMI Cherry caps though.

[tepid urchin]

Not with pbtfans either

And they are really thick

[fresh jackal]

You need a very rigid plate that doesn't flex. The sensors have a very tight tolerance and veering out out of that can cause bad inputs.

[tepid urchin]

No one tried yet. I will be able to tell you by next weekend

[abstract timber]

what do you mean? so make them upside down?

[tepid urchin]

Just need to finish lubing …

[fresh jackal]

We do have at least one person here who made a gasket mount? Brass plate custom.

[tepid urchin]

Yes

[fresh jackal]

Switches are typically either north or south facing. Referring to where the LED is to shine through the switch.

We use north facing, cherry uses south.

[tepid urchin]

But he is asking about alu / fr4

This is an alu plate

[fresh jackal]

Yes? You didn't specify what you were talking about when you replied to me

[fickle blade]

so i just tried this case, and it works!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B4NZ7BG8/

if it can be added to the compat list

it is slightly oversized (maybe by a few mm), but i guess thats to be expected just because of tolerances and all that

but the core mounts and all of that work

[sonic trellis]

anyone know how the HyperX Pudding Keycaps look on the 60HE?

[winter sandal]

hey, my wooting 60he came to me today - a little faster than I expected, so I didn't have time to buy keycaps. Does anyone know about this and can help me choose one? I mainly programming and playing, but what I care most about is something sweet and clean (e. g. cats)

I like it so far but I can't find it in black. Any help would be great 🙂 Thanks for ur time!

[fresh jackal]

What layout did you pick? ANSI? ISO? What language?

[winter sandal]

one moment

ISO

tbh, I didn't know there was a difference, I was in a bit of a hurry when ordering and I just chose the ones without the keycaps xD

but that's okay, it doesn't matter to me

[fresh jackal]

ANSI is typically for US america.
ISO is... mostly everyone else.

What language did you want on the board?

ANSI and ISO are physically different so important you check that before ordering anything. Would suck to have everything except enter and shift fit.

[winter sandal]

good to know that! thank for talking about it<3
I will mainly use Polish and English.

[winter sandal]

yes, you are absolutely right! probably if you hadn't made me aware of it, I would have been quite disappointed if I had ordered something on my own.

thank u for that^^

[prisma rover]

What does lekker springs do?

[fresh jackal]

The ones you can buy?

So normally our Lekker switches are 60g to push down. The springs are slightly lighter at 50g. Purely a personal preference. But you'll need to do the swap yourself, and relube all of the switches. It's a bit of a process.

[prisma rover]

Do you know if the stock springs is lighter than cherry reds?

Planning to get the lekker springs separately

[tepid urchin]

Wdym with relube? The springs are not lubed from the factory

[fresh jackal]

The stem that the spring holds is. So you're reducing the lube even further.

[feral siren]

Eeeeeeeeeeee

[muted birch]

Has anyone tried ceramic keycaps? Are they too heavy for the springs?

[dapper rapids]

Any hope for custom layouts or multi-support PCBs? While I'd love a 60% with an arrow cluster, that's a pretty uncommon layout so I'd settle for a split backspace and split right shift which feel indispensable to me.

[wary mango]

I haven't tried them yet as I haven't got my 60HE but my cerakeys came in recently so when I get my 60HE I can report back

I'm pretty much exclusively going to be using those with my 60HE

[feral siren]

I’d say slim to none on this

[unborn star]

im literally having the opposite problem lol

[wary mango]

what batch did you get?

[wary mango]

I got white w/ legends and I'm an IGG backer so I was half-surprised I got them this early, but I did get a popular batch

[winter sandal]

hi, does anyone know about keycaps and could recommend me something? 60he ISO without keys just came to me (faster than I thought) and I have to buy something asap. I would most enjoy something clean/retro? or something like below (pic). preferably if the ship was from europe^^ thank you! ❤️

[slow vigil]

Can you do a custom polycarbonate plate without creating issues?

Like if you have the exact measurements

[white sundial]

those keycaps are soooo cuuuuute 😍

[sturdy night]

I doubt it because the flex will probs mess with the calibration of the sensors

[slow vigil]

Damn it

[analog gyro]

I really want to find Tofu case in Burgundy...does anyone know if KBD restocks them or I have to go second hadn market?

[rigid spear]

Divinikey has some, but they do cost; a decent amount more. I got mine from KBD. I might be willing to part with mine, considering getting black instead.

[unborn star]

I got white blanks and I got the crazed for the backer bonus. I get mine in like a day or 2

[wary mango]

They're gonna be damn nice on the 60HE. Super unique feeling keycaps, well worth the wait!

[zinc ice]

Yes, it says "qwerty", but it is azerty

Didnt find blank rubberz

[iron stone]

Noice prolly swapping out the cable to white colour, keeping these keycaps on untill they bore me but looking perfect for now 👌🏻

[feral siren]

Nice

[zinc ice]

How far did u screw the plate?
Is your board a bit flexible?

[feral siren]

Yeah it gets a little bump from the default poron foam rings incluided with the blade60.

I used to do burger o rin method, now i go raw under the PCB and just one ring above the pcb under the screwhead. I like the default foam rings on their own just fine.

[wary mango]

all the blade60 posts making me want to cop one

nice build man

typeface on those keycaps is sick

[winter sandal]

c:

[long lion]

gotta love america. just gotta be special lmao

[tough nova]

Man this board made me spend nearly 160 bucks today

Tofu 60 in air force blue

Some gray double shot alpha/numerical caps to go along with the snackbag keys

I got foam for bottom

Painters tape

Aftermarket stabs

Keyboard standoffs

January can't come soon enough

[loud belfry]

Keyboard standoffs
Are these the silicone toppers for the standoffs?

[tough nova]

Yes

[loud belfry]

Gotcha.

[tough nova]

Figured it was better than trying to burger mount

[loud belfry]

Yea, that's what I'd do as well.

[tough nova]

I love looking at all these mods, so much inspiration

[tough nova]

Those keycap legends are beautiful

[abstract creek]

IIRC, my Tofu 60 came with silicon standoffs

[light sleet]

Mine did too

[unborn star]

@wary mango My Cerakeys came in and I put them on. They look nuts but the stock wooting stabs aren’t compatible. We’re both gonna need Durock stabs or something similar. Especially with the spacebar. I’m still waiting on the crazed accent keys to come in but it still looks dope and feels great

I also put O-Rings under mine and they don’t impact performance or anything and they fit great

[pseudo frigate]

i ordered these keycaps for my wooting any white or gray case recommendations? (only for gaming)

[wary mango]

wait really?

how are the stock stabs incompatible?

I was thinking of getting TX stabs anyways, just wasn't sure if it would be worth replacing the 60HE stabs. I guess they're definitely worth replacing now. Looks like 9-16 Dec for me so I can get stabs in time at least

do you play games w/ your kb? How do the keys feel for that?

man it looks so good I'm so hype

[unborn star]

Yeah the stabs are too short for most of the bigger keycaps and they get very mushy if you press on it.

I play Valorant collegiately and it feels great. Some of the keys like capslock and tab feel off cause of there not being stabs for them so they have a lot of moving but tbh it's fine in game.

Overall though the negatives of the Cerakeys + 60HE combo aren't that big of a deal cause the pros outweigh it by far

[serene leaf]

sweet, I got the green blade 60, just waiting for it to come inb

[tough nova]

Tofu 60, so much room for expandability especially in the tape and foam modding department

And it's HEFTY

[crude turtle]

I’m glad someone else has Cerakey key caps I’m loving mine

[winter sandal]

ISO keycaps for mainly programming but also gaming. Could someone recommend me something pretty cheap from EU please? Thank u!

[feral siren]

What about ISO keycaps make it better for programming?

Or is it just a preference for OG stuff?

[feral siren]

Yo you gotta post screenshots of the green Blade60

[white sundial]

@fresh jackal the duck 😮

[fresh jackal]

Not my design, but yes. We have more than one duck enthusiast here apparentlu 😄

[white sundial]

I feel like this is a conspiracy that runs deep

[white sundial]

I have a problem, I dont have a switch puller, can I remove switches without one`?

[fresh jackal]

Yes...but I wouldn't recommend it. It'll be difficult and you will 100% scrape the white paint on the plate.

[tough nova]

And potentially some of the circuits on the PCB DONT DO IT

[white sundial]

i removed the switch plate with the switches from the pcb tho

[mystic blaze]

it's already hard enough to take them out with a switch puller
please don't try without one

[white sundial]

dw I wont

[muted birch]

Did you get them yet!?.

[white sundial]

@fresh jackal @mystic blaze I built one, could this work?

[fresh jackal]

I mean... probably? 🙂

The switch puller just grabs on under the switch, and help you pull up.

[mystic blaze]

that's probably not thin enough...

[fresh jackal]

Hmm... yeah good point.

They need to be pretty thin

[white sundial]

i made one first of a thicker clip and it was to thick

but this one was perfect

[mystic blaze]

and if you force it a bit too much - plastic of the switch might get damaged

and if you did it with hand - your force won't reach bottom but bent your holding points probably

[white sundial]

I tried it and it actually removed 1 to test and it came off super easy without force

[mystic blaze]

I wouldn't say do it

but i won't say don't do it anymore 😄

[white sundial]

it barely left a mark on the switch plate

do I need to rotate this one 180 to like the others btw?

[mystic blaze]

if you have no problem with the keycaps - no need to rotate - the rgb would be brighter with stock

[white sundial]

the other one with the stabs that is not facing north

I have cherry profile caps tho

[mystic blaze]

that's iso enter
it needs to feel different:D

[white sundial]

yea but i mean does it need to be rotated

[mystic blaze]

did you put your keycaps before? or first time after lubing?

[white sundial]

i have nordic keycaps, cherry profile when I orderd my 60he they didnt make the nordic ones

[mystic blaze]

will you use rgb at all?

[white sundial]

they dont have shine through letters

[mystic blaze]

if not just put them all rotated (just not the enter one)

enter one stays the same

[white sundial]

ok thanks that was what I was wondering 😄

[mystic blaze]

cherry profile wouldn't be a problem unless it's thicker than 1.4mm

even then it might not be

[white sundial]

I linked them before in chat and was told I would need to rotate the switches for those keycaps! 😄

[mystic blaze]

better safe than sorry

[abstract creek]

PBTfans cherry profile fit no problem without rotating the switches.

[tepid urchin]

Put a paper underneath the capcap first an see if it catches. I did not have to turn the switches for my cherry profile keycaps.

To be more clear. Cut a strip of paper. Put it between the switch and the keycap (from the front / south side). Fully press the key. If you can pull it out, the. There is no reason to turn the switch.

[white sundial]

basically if the papper gets stuck between keycap and the switch plate you need to rotate?

[white sundial]

made a 4 layer tapemod that doesnt stick so I can easly remove it when I change case 😄

[serene leaf]

you got it, ive got a crazy build planned for this thing

I actually just got an email with the tracking number for my blade 60

[tepid urchin]

yes

[white sundial]

looking good!

[fresh jackal]

Tiiiiiiiny detail. You swapped FN and CTRL around in the bottom right (unless of course you remapped them 😄 )

[white sundial]

yes yes it apears you are right

[upper mist]

I love those keycaps

I think someone else posting having them also, a few weeks ago, or was that you?

Either way, looks great! 😄

[fresh jackal]

That was indeed them. 🙂

[white sundial]

no it was them I was asking for advice if they would fit and stuff 😄

[upper mist]

Ah okay! Glad you ended up getting them, they look great!

[white sundial]

I am suuuuuper happy with them, just waiting for that midnight blue wrist rest with glitter inside that Mansen mentioned that you don't have yet

[upper mist]

With glitter? Oh man I'd hate to work at that factory 😂

[white sundial]

hmmm I cant make up my mind I really wanna use the astronaut and spaceship

should i swap them our for ^ and * 🧐

they have a higher profile tho so it looks kinda weird

I guess you cant see it that much

[drifting helm]

ayo anyone can tell me what diameter you need to burger mount this puppy

[red quest]

1.5mm working in a Klippe, could probably go down to 1mm.

[tepid urchin]

Did anyone else notice huge differences in the springs?

I‘ve been having a hard time getting all of them to sound right

So much ping / crunch …

[sterile cave]

Gotta heavy lube them springs my guy

[tepid urchin]

I thought I did … I will add more. Hope it helps

[minor canyon]

Brand new to the keyboard scene but want to do a simple mod/customization for my board. Right now, looking at getting a black tofu60 and then some keycaps (open to suggestions!!)

Anyone have any input on those really baseline ideas?

[white sundial]

Make a tapemod and get some nice keycaps, thats what I did and I'm also brand new basically 😄 When I get a tofu case I'm gonna lube the switches and make a silicon mod instead 😄

[minor canyon]

Any suggestions for keycaps? Looking at pudding or doubleshot so that the RGB shines through

[white sundial]

actually I found theese today and kinda fell inte love, a bit bummed I couldnt find them in nordic layout

https://www.keysium.com/product/minimalist-japanese-keycaps-set-cherry-blossom-black-white/

[minor canyon]

those are niceee

[hazy sentinel]

im pretty sure this site makes u pay like double bro

i think ive seen these on aliexpress for half the price wait

https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/1005002663449068.html?mp=1&gatewayAdapt=glo2fra

[abstract creek]

I put on some cherry profile PBT doubleshot caps and shoved it into a Tofu 60. Used some o-rings and added foam to the case. Pretty easy stuff.

[hazy sentinel]

same pictures and everything

the whole site is dropshipping

[oblique nymph]

Everything comes from the alibaba group

[slow vigil]

I got mine

What do you guys think

[wary mango]

Hey folks, I'm trying to get stabs for my incoming 60HE, not sure what size I need

any info?
cheers :')

[uncut surge]

You need plate mount stabs, as 60HE's pcb doesn't support pcb stabs

[wary mango]

o yea brainfart

ty !

[tepid urchin]

Alu plate gasket mounts work with 0,1 mm activation / rapid trigger

not a problem

at all

I am confident fr4 will work too

someone should try, I need a break from modding for now

xD

[white sundial]

Looove it! 😄

[tepid urchin]

I noticed that the usb port clearance is different because the wooting pcb is thicker than a standard gh60/dz60 pcb

But yes the Sangeo60 can go on the compatibility list. It just needs a custom plate for the plate mounted stab support.

[wary mango]

weird Q, but does anyone know where to get gasket o-rings that are white?

I have the same case as this person and they used a gasket o-ring to fill the gap between chassis/pcb

I want to do the same thing, but a white one would look way cleaner since I've got white keycaps/case

any ideas?
cheers!

[abstract creek]

There are YouTube videos that describe how to make your own o-rings.

[modern schooner]

anyones whos lubed their stabs? how did you get them out of the plate

[fresh jackal]

By pushing in the pin and lifting up. 🙂

Standard plate stab mounting.

https://youtu.be/WN_-GYLTfpY?t=233

Timestamp to the rescue

[modern schooner]

to get the stab back in do i just push down here?

nvm i got it

[modern schooner]

ty didnt see this before

[tepid urchin]

There is a little lever on the top

[unborn star]

yes scroll up.

[eternal silo]

someone try this pslspslspls

and polycarbonate aswell

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[arctic ridge]

guys wich keycaps profile matches with wooting 60HE ? just bought OEM one

[fresh jackal]

OEM and Cherry. The ones we sell are OEM 🙂

[arctic ridge]

Okay :)

Just by curiosity does the lekker switches match with these ? https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B097HS2R7V/ref=twister_B09BD14CXG?_encoding=UTF8&tag=coa_fr-21&th=1

[fresh jackal]

As long as it's a 60HE and not a 2HE, yes. I've used them

[arctic ridge]

Lets go man !

[tepid urchin]

If you pay I will try 😂

[desert root]

Where did you buy these m

[crude turtle]

https://www.cerakey.com/

[minor wave]

@hybrid rapids so... when will the executive decision be made, of having Sander try to solder a daughter board to the 60HE pcb?... for science

[hybrid rapids]

Lol, wel he’s not the right person for that type of work. But we’re growing the team. It should help a lot to expedite our experimental stuff.

[minor wave]

Hell throw me a pcb over the big river ill play with it huehuehue

Ngl looking forward to buy another 60HE with plate mounted stabs and daughter board

[cloud patio]

I'm waiting for my wilba.tech Salvation to come in so I can drop the 60he in there....the keyboards are done and are being shipped to NK; really looking forward to it

I also have no idea how I would go about doing this, but because these HE switches have ruined me for any other switch, I would love to try and create a custom HE PCB for the current custom keyboards I already own. I've worked with someone to make custom Alps PCBs, but haven't looked up how to do do a custom HE PCB

[tepid urchin]

It will be very troublesome

You need the custom firmware to make it work

I wonder why wootings pcb foam is so different from the kbd fans one …

[naive rose]

I had an idea for using the 60he pcb with daughterboard based cases:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001325015941.html

You'd have to secure the female end into the space for the daughterboard somehow (e.g. cast/3d print it in a little square or glue in place)

But so long as there's enough clearance to get the 90° end onto the connector on the 60he pcb, and enough space underneath to route the ribbon cable, it should work

Just waiting for a daughter board based case to arrive to test

Specific cable was the T4A-T2 or T4B-T2 option

[tepid urchin]

It’s easier to solder the cable than to make a custom case for it

[dreamy cliff]

hello is there anyway to add clicky hall effect switches to the 60he i mean i play tac fps and clicky switches are the best for those type of games in my opinion

pls dm me if you know smth

[fresh jackal]

Not currently, no.

[minor wave]

yeah my main concern is the power delivery since the wooting boards are power hungry

and I don't have a spare pcb laying around to test my shenanigans on

[eternal silo]

for people who did custom builds already, do you like wooting's epdm foam or have you replaced it with something else

[tepid urchin]

Wooting foam is not that great

If you have something else see if you like that more

[sinful yarrow]

I used wooting foam because I didn’t wanna buy new foam or have excess foam

Works well for me

It’s not the best but it works

[fresh jackal]

For my case (which has a lot of open space inside) I bought a cheap pillow from a hobby store for its filling. ESD safe polyester.

It's a bit bouncy, so you gotta force the PCB down for the first two screws, but it really fills out the voids.

[sinful yarrow]

Yeah the foam that’s already in the case doesn’t really fill out all the space

The outer rim is lacking, I’m using a tofu60 for my case and I def can hear the metallic ping more around the edges of the board

It effects my backspace key the most, in terms of sound

[feral siren]

Your keyboard feet might be too high

[sinful yarrow]

My keyboard doesn’t have feet?

It’s a tofu60

[feral siren]

Do you have any sound termination between pcb and stand off?

[sinful yarrow]

I don’t think so? Could you elaborate on what you mean by sound termination

[feral siren]

Oring

Burger Oring or not

Do you have anything between the standoffs and the pcb?

[sinful yarrow]

Lol I did like half a burger mount

I got the stand-off silicone covers from kbdfans

[feral siren]

With tray mount that affects a bit if your screwheads are still contacting pcb directly anyway

It’s like half putting on a condom

[sinful yarrow]

But I don’t have orings between the pcb

Screw and pcb

Btw I have a bit of a strange question, but has anyone found a vendor that sells weights for the tofu60 case? It has this void that’s meant for a battery but I kinda wanna fill it with something

[mystic blaze]

it's the best for plastic case tbh
but I found hard foam works better on aluminum case
although it's just unnecessary preference

[wary mango]

Not exactly what you're looking for, but i use a car sound dampener in my case (not a Tofu60 but it has a battery slot like the Tofu) and I just put more dampener in there. It doesn't necessarily change the sound profile but it does add weight. You could try that, though it's not as pleasing as a metal weight

[warped bloom]

Anyone knows if those PE stickers can cause issues? Like the switch not working full range as it won't sit perfectly flush with the pcb

[upper mist]

There's some wiggle room when you recalibrate the switches at the time the keyboard boots up, should be just fine

[warped bloom]

so the keyboard calibrates automatically every boot ?

[upper mist]

Yea

[warped bloom]

around how much room? those are 1mm stickers

[upper mist]

Not sure to be honest

But if you have any trouble with it actuating the full distance, you could adjust the actuation curve so that pressing it down 3mm is equal to it pressing down 4mm

Something like that

[sinful yarrow]

Hmm not a bad idea

[thorny void]

Case swapped to match the aimlabs skypad

[sterile cave]

Your gonna want to use the softest material so the switch are moved up minimally

[tepid urchin]

The adhesive backing and foil in between also adds to the thickness.

[sterile cave]

the sick ness for the thickness

[mystic blaze]

is this the cement grey keycap set?